In this segment of Glenn Greenwald’s monologue, he outlines the background of the IC opposition to Tulsi Gabbard and how that pressure forced Gabbard to change her position on FISA-702 authorization. {Background}
Tulsi has been a prior critic of the warrantless surveillance of Americans through the FISA-702 process. However, in order to get confirmed to President Trump’s cabinet as the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard has been forced to reverse her opposition to FISA-702. This is how the DC Deep State operates.
Without getting a single Democrat vote, Gabbard would rely upon the Republican senators supporting her. The republican senators will not support her unless she agrees to continue the surveillance state as it is currently utilized. Gabbard is an example of what We The People are up against in this confrontation with DC politicians who support a weaponized surveillance state. WATCH:
To be fair, an argument can be made that Mrs. Gabbard is saying that she is going to keep FISA but have a stricter threshold for its use, and that would still be a change for the better in protecting citizens from its widespread use to surveil us at whim. Keeping FISA doesn’t necessarily mean she can’t affect a lack of it’s use domestically. However, that is somewhat hopeium and wish-casting.
Given the extreme nature of how the 702 processes have been used, and combined with the new AI tools being constructed to exploit the metadata capture of all American citizens to expedite the surveillance results, it is critical to find actionable control mechanisms before the next reauthorization comes up again.
One approach might be to trigger immediate consequences for the unlawful use of the NSA database. The revocation of security clearances in combination with criminal accountability for misuse could easily be written into law. However, once again that relies on the willingness of the supporting lawmakers to agree to some accountability measure. As of right now, there is no such consequence.
Office of Inspector General Michael Horowitz testified April 27, 2023, that more than 3.4 million search queries into the NSA database took place between Dec. 1st, 2020, and Nov. 30th, 2021, by government officials and/or contractors working on behalf of the federal government. These search queries were based on authorizations related to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).
[OIG Testimony HERE]
Approximately 30% of those 3.4 million search queries were outside the rules and regulations that govern warrantless searches, what the politically correct government calls “non-compliant searches.” That means more than 1 million searches of private documents and communication of Americans were illegal and outside the rules.
Additionally, IG Horowitz also admitted that somewhere north of 10,000 federal employees have access to conduct these searches of the NSA database; a database which contains the electronic data of every single American, including emails, text messages, social media posts, instant messages, direct messages, phone calls, geolocation identifiers, purchases by electronic funds, banking records and any keystroke any American person puts into any electronic device for any reason.
If we were in a functioning system of government everything would be stopped right now, and no conversation would be taking place that was not about this issue. This is the total and complete surveillance state being talked about as if we were discussing what’s for dinner.
If you ask me why in hindsight, I now take the position that FISA-702 is the gateway to the massive surveillance system currently being put into place using Real ID and the AI facial recognition software provided by Palantir (CIA exploit). In essence, the gateway that allows the full-scale surveillance state, is opened by the prior authorization of FISA-702 that negates any 4th amendment protection.
This is beyond jaw-dropping.
Context: In 2018 CTH revealed through research of their own documents that FBI and DOJ/FBI contractors had done more than 1,000 illegal searches using the NSA database, targeting Republican primary candidates from November 2015 through May 2016. These stunning admissions were from the DOJ’s own reporting to the FISA court.
Few were paying attention.
Although the number of the illegal search queries were redacted, we know the number is four digits from the size of the redacted text. More than 1,000 and less than 9,999.
FAST FORWARD TO 2023 – April 27, 2023, IG Horowitz outlined that more than 1.1 million illegal searches of this database were conducted in 2021 during the first year of the Joe Biden administration.
Additionally, and perhaps more consequentially, to give scope to how the process of total domestic surveillance has expanded, Horowitz now admits in 2021 the number of federal government employees with access to this total metadata collection system now exceeds 10,000 people. STOP THE PRESSES!
Yes, congress is talking about this ‘as if’ there is some level of importance. However, the basic questions are not being asked or have perhaps just become so accepted that legislators have become oblivious to the insanity of it. Beyond the blood boiling questions about searching the NSA database, questions like:
In order for these search queries to take place, there has to be a housing facility to capture it.
Where is all of this electronic data being stored?
Why is all of this electronic data being stored?
Who is in control of this all-encompassing electronic data collection?
Forget the searches for a moment, what act of congress authorized the capture of this private data collection? Essentially electronic intercepts of communication systems that flow throughout our life.
The background context here is congress debating the renewal of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and the power of the DOJ and FBI to intercept American citizen communication and electronic data via the “702” authorizations, that permit the NSA database to be searched and queried.
If the inspector general is now admitting the FISA laws have been so comprehensively corrupted such that 3.4 million searches by more than 10,000 federal employees and government contractors now have access, there is no way that any reasonably intelligent person should support such reauthorization. Even contemplating this request is absurd, beyond absurd.
The United States government is admitting to the public that a total and comprehensive surveillance state is currently in place, and 10,000 federal government agents have the authorization to monitor everything we do. This is the admitted and current status of RIGHT NOW.
In eight days, President Donald J Trump is scheduled to be sworn in as President of the United States. In my non-pretending world, this is likely to be the last time in our lifetime to drag the conversation of how we define liberty into the American psyche. All of my research in the past two decades indicates this likelihood is not hyperbole. We have one shot at this, and our time is now.
Liberty, the fundamental decision to retain it or lose it, is the context for all other contexts that have preceded it. The principles of liberty that we have defined for generations cannot exist in an American surveillance state. Thus, the secretive courts, the unlawful usurpation of the 4th Amendment, the short-sighted ramifications of the Patriot Act, the weaponization of our federal law enforcement and police agencies, all of it, must be reviewed through this fundamental core issue, Liberty.
still a flaming dem…
The “once a Democrat always a Democrat” schtick gets really old.
What’s truly old is how people just can’t wrap their heads around, nor bother to do research, that Tulsi is not the patriot many think she is. Wake the f up.
Or she is walking a thin line?
She’s a politician, if that’s saying anything. I’m from Hilo and would probably shock most on here with the back and forth correspondence I have with her in my emails.
She was Anti-FISA702 as a Dimm Congresscritter
I’m not pure enough to not take help from anyone who gives it to me.
Lurch Fetterman has a meeting scheduled at Mar-a-Lago.
His state just went red, and he may see the proverbial Handwriting on his basement brick wall that he uses so effectively as a tv backdrop.
I for one would be happy to welcome a 54th vote in the Semate right now, and would like to see some of those red state Dimm Congresscritters pull their heads out and see the same message. It would be easier than flipping the seat in an election, not over the Dimms but over Turtlefaces resistance
I’m wondering whether Lurch will wear a suit to MaL.
He just did an interview with Joe Rogan where he made a big joke out of all of that, using bathroom language and lots of Fs to communicate his point of view.
I’ve concluded he’s a slob no matter what he’s wearing.
You hit the 10 spot on that target! All Dims weren’t Demonrats. A very few were really more libertarian which can be pretty close to MAGA. Those rational patriotic voices find themselves in tough spots between DemonNC and their constituents. Fertile ground for PDJT deal-making. Neutering domestic IC has to be half of Job 1, a long with border security.
Lost count of the# of State legislators that have switvhed from Dem to Rep.,…8 or more?
One big city mayor (Dallas, Texas) has, and Adams (NYC) is almost there,…and yes it would be nice to see one jump.
If no one is getting confirmed for the job without agreeing to continuing the status quo, -and that absolutely sounds like the bottom line situation that exists (non-pretending as SD says) -wouldn’t we be better off with someone whose leanings were and are to view the process with caution and skepticism? Aren’t we better off having a libertarian minded person having clear eyes about exactly what is currently, what is in the works, who is the engine behind it, how is it funded, where is it located, what oversight exists or doesn’t exist. We’re on the outside guessing what they’re doing inside. Isn’t potentially learning what they’re doing there a big step? Should we turn down the chance to advance our knowledge about how the beast operates and demand instead someone who was a pure of heart Tea Party founder, J6 participant, filed 2020 election challenges and swears to go in with guns blazing and burn the place down? This doesn’t seem like a time to stand on moral authority to me either Big Al.
John Radcliffe-who checked many of the correct boxes was sent to the belly of the beast to declassify certain specific documents in the waning weeks of Trump’s first term. For reasons he knows (and presumably Trump knows) and we don’t, he left without accomplishing the task. Trump does not easily suffer people who fail, but he is putting his trust in Radcliffe again. I pray Trump is pure of heart and correctly nominating both Radcliffe and TG, because they are the best options available to us for achieving the most good vis a vis the very entrenched surveillance beast.
One step at a time
Why not just gum up the works?
Every email and text u send include trigger words,no matter if the content is politics or yoga recipes.
They want to spy on everyone? Give them LOTS to sort thru.
Truth won’t matter, the endless meaningless of content will mean whatever your rulers want it to mean. Anything you are forced to do infringes on your liberty of movement or thought. This is is the predatory (ever expanding territorily) nature of Palantir.
That is exactly how this needs to be approached. Litigate the overreach, but don’t be naive enough to believe that more and better government is any kind of a solution. Take advantage of the fact that the effort is impossibly complex.
This is the government, after all, and it really can’t do anything very successfully. Even simple tasks are beyond its capacity. This is what we learned with covid and the clot shot. We know what they wanted to do, but they couldn’t pull it off. It’s like top-down efforts to control the marketplace and citizen expenditures, which always leads to a vast, unmanageable black market. In this case, Cloward-Piven should work just fine.
‘Take advantage of the fact that the effort is impossibly complex.’
Some suggest that AI and super high-powered computers are being used to address this challenge.
But AI is imperfect, hence the thousands of humans noted by SD.
In any case, common sense tells us that what we see is the tip of the iceberg, and probably Limited Hangout.
Backhanded Whitney Webb ref noted. She does great work, but like all voices, common sense and grains of salt required.
True that, the traffic at the NSA server complex in Utah has been high enough on occasion to literally cause electric service connection boxes to burn off walls.
Maybe we could organize a day of mass High Resistance and overload the circuits to extinction.
Would be a fun exercise. Keep us posted here. Maybe SD could give you a Red Dawn post for deets.
Why no lawsuits for 4th amendment violations? Seems like a slam dunk on the merits. Courtweasels will try to say no standing etc but on the merits alone seems pretty clear.
Because few of the searches actually end up in a court case in which searches would have to be revealed.
When the search is first attempted could not a computer program block it whilst the program checks whether all the proper procedure has been complied with, search warrants, court permissions, the ID of who is making the request etc.
I would say that the vast majority of the people spied on don’t actually know they were spied on.
10,000 people allowed to use the database is way to many. We’re the folks that illegally used the database fired? If not, why?
There were 2016 candidates with standing that could have brought a 4A case. They’re even lawyers…
Instead of suing the gubmint, the legislative branch candidates who were illegally surveilled chose to exempt themselves in law from future searches.
Let that sink in.
Because the government prevents evidence disclosure based on “National Security”.
Sorry folks, it appears to be game over. Get used to totalitarianism, it’s coming.
(When the US enters a WWIII, suspends the Bill of Rights “because of wartime necessity”, then capitulates and becomes a totalitarian vassal under the new global hegemony, with the sovereign debt “restructured” or simply wiped. THAT’s what the regime is preparing for.)
You and I aren’t going up against FedGov on this anymore than we’re going up against an F16 with a semi-auto AR. This needs to get handled politically. God guard and guide PDJT!
Could she simply be lying, telling them what they want to hear? Or is she officially compromised? I mean why not lie to get confirmed and then do whatever you want?
She could be saying whatever will get her confirmed.
A few months after that, she can say, “I never realized the extent to which this was abused until I saw the records. Now I know this provision violates the 4th Amendment.”
All they can do is impeach her, which would be politically tricky for the impeachers, who’d be trying to explain that “We need to violate your 4th Amendment rights for the good of the state, citizens..”
If she shows Trump the examples of surveillance on him and his family, as well as other people Trump might know, I think he’d back her up.
The problem is that most people are decent folk, they don’t think like ruthless sociopaths so they are blind to the sociopaths’ MO until it’s too late.
Tulsi and everyone else is vulnerable to control by the “nice family you got there, it’d be a shame if something bad happened to them” manipulation.
The IC can do this with impunity. Have you figured it out yet?
If a whistleblower tried to expose such a threat, the IC would say “As always we can neither confirm nor deny any allegations”. And no one can penetrate the IC to find out because “National Security”.
Reality Check.
Wethal said, “A few months after that, she can say, ‘I never realized the extent to which this was abused until I saw the records. Now I know this provision violates the 4th Amendment.'”
Could be, but if she says something like that, it would demonstrate that normal Americans have more situational awareness than she does.
<I mean why not lie to get confirmed and then do whatever you want?>
Democrat nominees to the Supreme Court do that every time 🙂
The whole admin can highlight “new revelations” that force a change.
Republican nominees to the SC do it too, they just lie to the President to get selected. Then once confirmed, they let their closet liberal out.
That is what I’m hoping. But you know what they say about Hopium.
I was going to say the same thing. Don’t they always say what we want to hear until they get in?
Wethal and WORDMAN seem to agree.
Our scotus folks do.
Traditionally, that is the case. Look at Lindsey Graham in South Carolina.
If she betrays her earlier promise to her, they would not impeach her for it.
They would destroy her, by death of 1000 cuts, leaking stories about torrid affairs, or corruption.
Thats how they roll.
Anyone they leaked a torrid affair with would instantly gain massive cred! Shoot, if they said I had a torrid affair with TG, my wife would be proud, impressed, and pissed at the same time. She would also know it’s a lie.
The corruption and evil runs deep.
The Theory of Evolution from Darwin is false 100%.
Evolution of the human mind is real and happens especially is DC.
Could there be a mind control machine that uses Electro magnetic Waves similar to Micro waves to that can cause people to think different than they would without the machine being directed at them.
Free Will is many times taken from people who try certain drugs and or alcohol could flashes of light or magnetic waves do something similar.
Who could afford to come up with this type of equipment?
MK Ultra.
“Could there be a mind control machine that uses Electro magnetic Waves similar to Micro waves to that can cause people to think different than they would without the machine being directed at them.”
Old technology….. They’ve been using it on Supreme Court Justices for 7 decades. /s
They used it on the current illegitimate “Pope”.
Not sure I believe Tulsi will do the right thing domestically. Too bad we do not have a nominee with a spine. What will Tucker say about her now?
Is the committee hearing the hill she should die on over this ? It wouldn’t even be a footnote in the books.
If she gets in, she’d have a much bigger stage to wage battle.
News flash;
Tulsi is already “in”.
She is currently “outing” any deterrents…
Trust God.
Fear not.
Vance
So many ways he could have answered, this was not one of them
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2025/01/12/jd-vance-j6-violent-offenders-obviously-shouldnt-get-a-pardon-from-trump/
Yes. I had expected better.
Yeah, I thought President Trump was going to pick Dr. Carson myself.. he would have thought about his answer..
No, the designated heir apparent needs to be somebody young enough to be around for at least 12 years, and holefully many more.
Shoulda been Kari Lake, which is why they targeted her so ruthlessly.
She was as big, or perhaps even a bigger threat to them that PDJT.
Well then you weren’t paying attention, cause this is just what I expected from him.
You probably projected onto Vance, what you WANTED him to be, much like so many did with Ron.
It makes pulling off the con or manipulation SO much easier.
Vance the Palantir Golem Vice Pres install is Pence on steroids x 1000. He must never be given power.
The only violent J6 offenders are FedGov and AuntieFa agents. MAGA persons were, at most, overly comfortable in the people’s house. JDV needs to take a break. Campaign is over. Discussion of these and all other issues need to take place in private, under executive privilege.
This just goes to show what the Constitution means to DC and the Oath they swear.
It means an absolute F U along with secret courts while Department of Homeland Insecurity spies on every American while allowing the bad people to damage and steal and destroy.
If this tool was just for use on illegals and actual bad people I agree it should be used and only by certain agencies and not everyone under the sun.
I still say PDJT and his team should use it, to document IN THEIR OWN WORDS, the various conspiracies we all know about ;Russia, Russia, the plandemic, the 2020 steal.
Since it IS Unconstitutional, and because prosecutions are problematic, do not try to use the material for prosecutions.
And, do not use it in Conhressional hearings, the enemy controls that venue, just as they do the Courts.
No, instead develop a venur to begin releasing the material, submitying it to “the Court of Public Opinion” perhaps in a manner similar to the “twitter files”.
There would be intence clamoring by TPTB to destroy those databases, there may even be unexplained fires, etc.
Have to think outside the box, the only way to destroy the databases that arecthe heart of the system, is to motivate TPTB to want them destroyed.
And PDJT will be uniquely in a position to do kust that.
“Politicians from both political parties who are more interested in serving their own interests than in serving the needs of the American people have taken control of our country. They will not give up their power without a fight.”
― Tulsi Gabbard, For Love of Country: Leave the Democrat Party Behind
I have real issues with someone who so easily would capitulate a strongly held position so quickly and easily. To be confirmed for a job. Being anti-FISA is literally being pro 4th Amendment…From all the interviews I have seen of her discussing her being on surveilled she seemed pretty ticked off…. what type of integrity does this show she has?
That’s the whole idea – She has to imitate spinelessness.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/01/12/glenn-greenwald-frames-context-for-the-network-of-intelligence-that-influenced-tulsi-gabbards-nomination/#comment-11465034
That immediately brought Wordman to mind!
I am going to stick with Tulsi for more than a few reasons, or at least until she violates one of my core principles. Her military experience gives her a direct understanding of the chain of command while her political experience showed her how government agencies will take whatever steps, using the latest technology, to achieve their goals including violating established laws, etc.
Her supposed change on an existing program may rattle come people to their political care, but it pales in comparison to pardoning Hunter Biden, the Steele Dossier, Benghazi, etc. if you get my drift. Plus, if she gets confirmed, who says her work will not be stellar?
Then again, who cares what I think plus I have no power beyond persuasion and my one man one vote reality! I still like her at this time, certainly more than Liz Cheney for starters!
Hunter blah blah blah, military goose stepper, Benghazi, Trey Gowdy buddy shake? She is in psyops brother. She just pledged to violate your 4th Amendment she swore to uphold. Anyone who says this is okay is the enemy, they are easy to spot. Tulsi is 100% owned she has no choice, Thune forcasted the same before her meeting, point being is you can never rely on her. Nobody should listen to anyone saying they can. We have to stop pretending.
HD, I am not your enemy, I am the enemy of those who support Biden, Obama, etc.
Further, you may think or believe she is “100% owned” as this is where we part company…so both of you can take point, you keeping an eye on her while I cover both your 6s, for we are in this together, whether you like it or not we march forward for change and a better America!
If she tells the truth to Trump, we are already way ahead.
Exactly!
Tulsi was spied on and put on what amounts to a domestic terrorist watchlist..every single time she got on a commercial flight she had 5-7 agents following her. She knows full well about the spying situation. I suspect she will say whatever it takes to gain the nomination.
“Gabbard cites ‘political retaliation’ for her addition to TSA watch list”
https://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/2024/08/14/hawaii-news/gabbard-cites-political-retaliation-for-her-addition-to-tsa-watch-list/
“However, once again that relies on the willingness of the supporting lawmakers to agree to some accountability measure”
The fact that Representatives excluded themselves from FISA spying just proves that they fully KNOW the dangers and weaponization that can, will, does cause severe damage. They also KNOW this is a violation of The United States Constitution. Their justification is pure bull 💩.
[snip] there is no way that any reasonably intelligent person should support such reauthorization[Snip]
James Lankford and Tom Cotton aren’t. And Katie “Bo” Lillis is a whore.
Well, if you have to agree to the FISA 702…….. then you have to defund the system storing this stuff and fire all the people involved in gathering and storing. Then fire every last person in theDepartments, Silos where these searches originate.
I figure that won’t stop it but it ought to make it small enough to stamp out the hidden stuff.
What we are looking squarely in the eye is Communism. Right now if you have to throw the baby out with the bath water. Throw away. We have to get the bad guys on the outside looking in and using someone else’s money to fund their evil deeds.
I think it was here at the Treehouse that Wray said he hired 40% of the people at the FBI. Like it was some kind of threat.
Take him up on it and fire that 40% and anyone hired by the other crooks. For me it is nonsense to try and build back something that corrupt. Starting over will be more successful and longer lasting. Every rotten person in the FBI that is not removed will be actively working against MAGA. And that goes for all Departments. With DC 95% Democrats, you cannot go very far wrong by whacking them all.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/01/12/glenn-greenwald-frames-context-for-the-network-of-intelligence-that-influenced-tulsi-gabbards-nomination/#comment-11465034
Good people, I am sorry to pop your bubble. No one except a complete socio/psychopath is immune to IC manipulation and control by hidden threat to loved ones.
No one.
Once you realize this, you see things in a whole new light. Including political leaders.
“…..NSA database; a database which contains the electronic data of every single American, including emails, text messages, social media posts, instant messages, direct messages, phone calls, geolocation identifiers, purchases by electronic funds, banking records and any keystroke any American person puts into any electronic device for any reason.
BUT
“…..the J-6 Congressional hearings tapes and recorded evidence were deleted” and Hilary ” erased ” her e-mails .
You know theyre lying when you see their lips move.
Tell the GOP effers whatever they want to hear. Then ignore it, it’s the new way of doing politics.
Those GOP effers are going to be gone in another election or two.
Face it, as long as the SSCI holds the cards neither dem or repub will make it through unless they swear on satan’s bible.
When she assumes her cabinet position will the technical means of identifying individuals misusing the system be available to her.
If yes, then she can ruin each and every one of them caught doing it.
Would she have the power a couple years down the road, to change course on 702? Seems like she could not do that if she is not confirmed, but she might be able to do that if she is confirmed.
And she could be giving them lip service. I mean lying has worked for the Republican party for decades.
Why not get into to office and say that when she got there she became aware of the abuses were much more significant than she had anticipated when she took that pledge.
She could even say she has worked harder on keeping FISA than any other effort in her life. But it is too far gone.
Thune, Cotton and the other RINOs probably have some sort of mechanism in place to insure against her going back on her word.
Yeah. The same one as the mob. They will try and extort her.
Make Ham Radios Great Again?
I would suggest carrier pigeons but maybe drones would be the modern equivalent.
All BS, all the time.
Ex-CIA Counterterrorism Chief Endorses Lt. Col. Tulsi Gabbard for DNI
https://www.thelibertybeacon.com/ex-cia-counterterrorism-chief-endorses-lt-col-tulsi-gabbard-for-dni/
“He noted that Gabbard, a former Democrat, bucked her party in 2015 when she criticized the Obama administration for refusing to say “radical Islamic terrorism” even amid the rise of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS), an offshoot of terrorist organization al-Qaeda.
Hudson noted that Gabbard is being smeared as a Russian agent, despite the fact she maintains a top-secret clearance as a lieutenant colonel in the U.S. Army Reserves.
He called claims about her supporting hostile leaders such as former Syrian dictator Bashar Assad — whom she visited in 2017 amid a civil war in Syria that threatened deeper U.S. involvement — “misleading.”
“Rather than being soft on America’s adversaries, she has been willing to ask hard questions of an often-flawed elite foreign policy consensus,” Hudson wrote.
He said not long after her visit to Syria, “Washington’s elite foreign policy caste itself came to abandon regime change as a priority, due to concern about just who might take over in Syria.”
He said the intelligence community could have used a voice like Gabbard’s before the Iraq War, which was “erroneously justified by using flawed intelligence about weapons of mass destruction.””
Maybe her thought is keep it in place short term and use it to go after the DS along with the hop rule.
Imagine the communications that have transpired and been captured by Salt Lake NSA these past 4-6 years.
My bet are serious crimes are broad and deep if declassified and exposed.
So use the system, query all of the DS players COMMS and pass those over to Pam & Kash.
Politicians have a track record of NOT fulfilling their promises. She’s been around D.C. long enough to know how things work.
Hoping there’s a glitch- in- her- get-along.
Promises made. Promises not kept.
All these honeypots, so little time . . .
Yes.
I don’t understand why there should be any upset unless Gabbard is serious about agreeing to do nothing. All she has to do if she wants to get rid of FISA 702 after she’s in office, is do what other politicians have done once they attain office. They change their mind and simply say “I’ve looked over such and such (in this case FISA 702) and it’s become apparent it can no longer be used for these reasons, etc, etc, etc, etc.
If she has the courage and it’s in her power to even get rid of it, it can be done. This is war, deception is a tool.
“This is war, deception is a tool.”
And many are deceived into believing that Tulsi or anyone else can buck the IC.
Because the IC hides the manipulations that they use to turn people compliant. Deception is their MO, after all.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/01/12/glenn-greenwald-frames-context-for-the-network-of-intelligence-that-influenced-tulsi-gabbards-nomination/#comment-11465034
What’s surprising is that so few see this.
Matthew 10:16
‘Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves.’
What if Gabbard isn’t broken? What if she’s just going along to get the job? If she believes this is war and not just a government job she could be taking a soldiers view point about not telling the enemy the truth. I don’t know her well enough to know if this is even possible but even if she doesn’t think that way now it could be possible for her to be influenced to think that way after she’s in the job. Maybe she’ll realize if your going to kiss your life away for your country it’s better to go out really making a difference.
She should just lie to them. They deserve it.
The problem isn’t gabbard, it’s the gop members of the ssci and congress . Trump should see that his doj fully prosecutes all violations of fisa. He and others illegally searched should sue the individual searchers who should have no immunity.
Never forget “NATO” member Turkey.
I remember when the Stellar Wind data collection and storage project was the headline maker on conservative news sites years ago. An online search states it was shutdown years ago but who knows.
I think the landscape post inaugural is going to negate a lot of what the DS “plans” to do. Lying to liars is OK with me. She hasn’t changed her mind-she was a victim of the process.
Politicians lie all the time. It is almost a necessary character trait to get elected or selected or nominated. It doesn’t matter if there is a D or a R after the name.
Let’s give the lady a chance to prove herself. She is definitely a huge improvement over the current Director.
I know Sundance is saying this is our only chance to fix the situation but we have no chance unless she is confirmed and then proceeds to undermine the current corrupt system.
Pressure needs to be placed on Justice Roberts and the Judicial Conference.
That’s the path the Dems have taken to suborn the FISA process.
Going after Gabbard is a canard IMO in the sense of being the fulcrum for fixing FISA. Her role, as Sundance notes, is primarily to ensure valid and requested IC information/analysis gets to her boss PDJT. She can’t impact the bodies that control the FISA judge nominating process – the real problem; other than, of course, IC/DS/SSIC corruption.
The Dems/DS are redoubling their efforts to have the judiciary buffer, if not control, inherently legislative prerogatives.
If Tulsi’s name is withdrawn or she is defeated, the next person nominated will be much more agreeable to the entrenched corrupt deep state and probably give us no chance at changing the system
GOP Senators Demand Tulsi Support Domestic Surveillance To Be Confirmed; Group Tracks IDF War Criminals Around The World; System Pupdate: Pointer’s Determination To Survive | SYSTEM UPDATE #387. 👆👆👆👆 Glenn Greenwald…..Rumble
The entire Friday podcast is worth watching.
Friday is when he has ….System Pupdate!!
Each Friday he features one of his rescue dogs
and tells their story. ❤️❤️🐶🐶
I’m game. So how do we Americans make this THE cause going forward?
Sundance has made the case that FISA 702 is not only a clear violation of the 4th Amendment, and that it has resulted in violations that have become routine in nature. Clearly the elected representatives have no interest in the Constitution they have sworn to uphold.
In a USA of secure borders there will still be infiltrates who are intent on terroristic acts. Additionally there will be native born terrorists like the scumbag who ran people down with his truck in New Orleans. If FISA 702 is eliminated, what kind of effective anti-terrorist system would replace it? In my mind this is a legitimate question because the threat is permanent. How does the government combat terrorism and terrorists, and not use warrantless searches? Clearly a Constitutional Amendment is not enough to stop warrantless searches, but we need to craft a serious alternative that at least theoretically will work.
BTW Dimms (and Rinos) are all “People of the Lie.”
As such I don’t feel bad lying to them.
“Will you support Fisa702.”
“Sure I will, Sin-ator.”
Come April we will see.
Sundance uses as a meme a picture of a back of a guy in a blue suit, with his hand behind his back fingers crossed.
We need to use Dimm/Rino tactics against Dimm/Rinos.
FISA is nothing more than legal cover for what they’re doing anyway. They will do it with or without that legal cover. They will not allow some nuisance law stand in their way. Forcing Gabbard to disavow her previous position is just a power game and a warning to others.
Tulsi is “switching” her support TO the FISA Court – she is OK with it –
where is the proof that she ever WAS not OK with it?
Furthermore, consider this: The FISA Court is just the tip of the iceberg and although it IS to be confronted as a tool used to invade our privacy, our privacy is also invaded in other ways –
in this scene from the Oliver Stone movie “Snowden” we see the time when Snowden was working in Geneva, working for the CIA in gathering information – intelligence – about targeted people in order to get a “hook” – mind you, the target was not an American citizen – he is described as a “Swiss banker” – and per the Wikipedia article, a Swiss official doesn’t see HOW this all could happen, he can’t imagine it.
My point in putting this clip here is that it happened way back during the George W. Bush administration – the guy helping Snowden in gathering the intelligence from Facebook accounts is seen walking around freely in people’s Facebook accounts, no password, not being a “friend” to any particular person to see their comments – AND he points out to Snowden that no, they don’t even NEED a FISA warrant to get this particular information.
So IMHO we need to not only stand against the FISA warrants, it doesn’t mean that if perchance we could even end the use of FISA warrants to invade our privacy, they can invade our privacy ANYWAY without the FISA warrants.
From Wikipedia:
In March 2007, the CIA stationed Snowden with diplomatic cover in Geneva, Switzerland, where he was responsible for maintaining computer-network security.[28][49] Assigned to the U.S. Permanent Mission to the United Nations, a diplomatic mission representing U.S. interests before the UN and other international organizations, Snowden received a diplomatic passport and a four-bedroom apartment near Lake Geneva.[28]
According to Greenwald, while there Snowden said he was “considered the top technical and cybersecurity expert” in that country and “was hand-picked by the CIA to support the president at the 2008 NATO summit in Romania“.[50][51] A 2016 report from the US House of Representatives Select Committee on Intelligence said that Snowden’s official position at CIA was an entry-level technical services officer.[32]
Snowden described his CIA experience in Geneva as formative, stating that the CIA deliberately got a Swiss banker drunk and encouraged him to drive home. Snowden said that when the latter was arrested for drunk driving, a CIA operative offered to help in exchange for the banker becoming an informant.[52] Ueli Maurer, President of the Swiss Confederation for the year 2013, publicly disputed Snowden’s claims in June of that year. “This would mean that the CIA successfully bribed the Geneva police and judiciary. With all due respect, I just can’t imagine it,” said Maurer.[53] In February 2009, following six counseling sessions from his supervisors regarding poor performance, Snowden resigned from the CIA.[54][51]
“…that pressure forced Gabbard to change her position on FISA-702 authorization.”
So it remains to be seen whether Gabbard changing her position is the same as Gabbard changing her opinion.
https://freedomaustralia.freeforums.net/thread/6596/glenn-greenwald-tulsi-gabbard-nomination
Don’t forget the “Five Eyes” information sharing consortium.