Washington DC is creating a surveillance state. We can debate the motives and intentions behind it, but the core of their creation aligns and supports a fully comprehensive American surveillance state.
We cannot be intellectually honest with each other about how the tools of a weaponized government were deployed against Americans, specifically in the example of presidential candidate Donald Trump, without accepting the tools exist for far more consequential reasons than just Donald Trump.
In this segment from April of 2024, Tucker Carlson (motive irrelevant) accurately outlined the purpose of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) and how that legislatively created tool is being used by Washington DC, both parties.
Within this monologue Tucker Carlson hits on some accurate points to share with his audience. The commentary about HPSCI Chairman Mike Turner is spot on accurate. The IC pressure meetings are also true {SEE HERE}. The analysis of Speaker Mike Johnson also appears to be widely accurate. WATCH:
My personal experience with the IC surveillance state mirrors that described by Tucker Carlson. As you step into the world of real data, unfiltered by the systems intended to control our perspectives, the system tends to see you as a threat.
Ongoing research into the dollar-based Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC) has made the surveillance system much more visible. All of these systems (Real ID, Digital Identity, Facial Recognition, metadata collection, AI search and result capability, etc.) are eventually going to merge and connect, unless we do something to stop the people who are creating this system.
Previously in 2013, Harvard Law professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz and former Department of Defense Chief of Staff, Kash Patel, appeared on Fox News with Maria Bartiromo to discuss President Donald Trump’s criminal case, the J6 targeting and the use of FISA-702 to conduct political surveillance.
I am prompting the earlier video to 02:20 to focus one aspect of the interview on the 2013 Republican led FISA-702 reauthorization and extension. I agree with almost everything Mr Patel says about the ramifications of the GOPe House, led by HPSCI Chairman Mike Turner, and the FISA extension. However, there is also an aspect that 99% of everyone misses, and within that dynamic we become victims to our own willful blindness. First, watch the segment on FISA-702 (prompted):
The CIA director, NSA director, ODNI, FBI Director, etc are not in charge of the compartments they represent. They are simply functionaries -middle men- who operate in the space between where the compass points are directed, where the data originates, and oversight of that data that is ultimately filtered and delivered to the functionaries, who then brief the representatives…. who then create policy… albeit flawed policy…. based on a very specific, controlled, compartmented and skewed information flow. (more)
The value of Kash Patel’s institutional currency is connected to this access, even with Republicans in charge. The same is true for any other member of the Intelligence Community, including John Ratcliffe, current CIA silo nominee.
As a result, the corrupt DC functionaries operate without any accountability, no corrective action ever takes place, no accountability is metered out, and WORSE…. an oblivious public cheer on people like Kash Patel and many others who give the illusion they are railing against corruption.
For those who choose denial and pretending over the brutal reality, their criticism of me is irrelevant. The truth exists regardless of our comfort level.
Accepting we are abused victims to professional gaslighting, manipulation and Machiavellian deceit, carried out by those who claim to be our allies, is painful and unnerving. However, failing to accept the reality only retains our status as victims; we become codependent enablers and battered conservatives. The surveillance system continues to be assembled and refined. It is a remarkable dynamic.
Many people can now see how DC functionaries played this intelligence game against President Donald Trump, using the false justification of “national security.” However, those same voices cannot see how we are continually being played by the same defenders of a corrupt system within DC.
Changing the system first begins by awakened people thinking about the long-term ramifications from what is being assembled. What is the value of national security, when the liberty that secures the values of America is destroyed in the process?
Either the Fourth Amendment means something, or it does not!
it appears nobody in Washington has this concern
so what do WE do about it?
Spread the word
I always send a summation to my Rep/Sen with footnote “Primary is only months way”. Then I resolve to be prepared to volunteer my energies to support the primary candidate. From what I’m seeing AFTER the mandate at the ballot box was handed to Trump, I’m now more than ever holding to the Primary as a weapon.
at some point in the future, our sons and daughters will have no recourse agaisnt this evil empire, but violence, and assinations, and they will wonder why we allowed it to get like that.
Respectfully asking :
Do You Blame Your Parents for the Political Climate Now ?
I Don’t .
What did our Parents Know Then ?
Even WE Don’t Know the ALL of It Now !
A Lot of Us Here have Lived Long Enough
to have Made Some Changes !
Oh , if we only knew then what we know now 😐
Just sayin ..
On the other hand, perhaps it came about because we were just lazy and complacent. We let the good times roll regardless of the consequences. In reality, there were few consequences. Guilty parties walked, but not to prison, as they should have.
Good point. However, I believe we now know way more than our parents did. What will be our excuse ? I personally want to take down Mike Johnson. He is a corrupt, snake in the grass, traitor. We have to come up with a solution to this problem. It appears we are the only ones who can do something about this. I am reminded of the scene from the movie “JFK” when Kevin Costner playing the part of Jim Garrison while giving his summation at the end of the trial, looks straight into the camera and says “It’s up to you.” And hundreds of thousands of people responded by sending letters, telegrams, etc. to Congress demanding the truth and the release of the withheld documents. This resulted in the formation of the ARRB (Assassination Records Review Board).
And you have a pass?
No worries, they won’t have a chance after the Bill of Rights is “suspended” right on cue when the US declares major war on (_), followed by permanent surveillance/police state keeping an eye on the citizenry with pre-crime profiling keeping everyone “safe”.
Can someone please create a meme that simply states “KEEPING US SAFE,” juxtaposed with pictures of the hordes charging across our borders, FIB hands rifling through Melania’s lingerie drawer, grandmas stomped by Capital police, and masked people cowering inside crop circles?
Nothing like visuals to drive a point home.
This is why securing the vote is so important. Representatives not afraid to do their job. JMO PT could use the system to force those who are protecting the surveillance system ….to vote differently. He has to be adviced, know the ramifications of doing nothing, then be willing to carry it out. I believe if he knew the extent of the systems continued misuse he would move forward. Again JMO but what makes Patel different from past FBI directors is the fact that he doesn’t have to rely on manipulated data to know what is currently being carried out. Let’s see if Patel cleans house. Same with the rest of PT picks who are over the IA.
Boycott Congress investments. “People” with such economic exposure had better watch their step. If the architects and their underling bootlickers were subject to the same scrutiny under this proposed Beast system, it would be stopped cold.
The subhumans currently at the helm want us to forget all about what happened to Bud Light when they got cute (which JR. called off, lest anyone forget).
Let Congress suffer the fate of the Dukes in “Trading Places” since we just can’t seem to vote our way out of this… either they will do what we want or they will see what the inside of Tent City.
“Who runs Bartertown”?
…grass roots activism at your local precinct. It all starts there…
We work overtime to change bad laws and then ensure the perps get significant jail time for their traitorous actions! Problem solved.
My hope is
a) Tulsi Gabbard gets into that position she is nominated for and then she can work in tandem with President Trump and his advisors to make enough adjustments to the rules and regulations of the 702 process to bring it in line with the 4th Amendment and
b) the way to do that is to remove the exemption from the 702 provisions that Congress voted for itself.
Get rid of b) and a) should be a lot smoother to accomplish.
It may take a c) a well known and extremely liked by the left politician be the target of the 702 searches – a b) person, perhaps an Obama acolyte – and they bring a lawsuit that goes to the Supreme Court (once we know there is a majority that actually honors and likes that 4th Amendment) to finally get the AI tech boys back in line with our Constitutional foundation.
A process, but it can be done, right?
Tulsi Gabbard met with Senators and has changed her position on the 702 warrants and now will support it.
Until she is confirmed.
Keep your fingers crossed.
I hope they will lie. …… Then, sorry guys I have “evolved” and changed my mind based on current info.
And Joe Biden absolutely, positively would not, under any circumstances pardon his son Hunter.
Tulsi Gabbard will be working for President Trump and will do exactly what he wants her to do.
Tulsi’s personal feelings are irrelevant!
Right. When she’s shown her dossier and the ones on her family, she’s going to do the right thing.
Another blind spot.
Blackmail and bribery are not the only levers.
There’s also “nice family you got there, it’d be a shame if anything bad happened to any of them”.
We are told this is how China controls its citizens worldwide. Yes, the same totalitarian regime evidently serving as a model for the end state the US Government is pursuing.
Could it be that Trump wants her to turn into a swamp creature?
I think you may be missing the point. Tulsi will very likely “support” searches on all the traitors who advanced this bill. Then we can sit back and watch them squirm and cry “Uncle!” as they rail against the unconstitutionality of the searches.
That’s when the FISA searches will end.
That will happen when they establish term limits for themselves: never.
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b) the way to do that is to remove the exemption from the 702 provisions that Congress voted for itself.
Congress isn’t going to vote to do this.
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Naive me: I thought Congress could not impose a law on we, the people that they were exempted from? Isn’t all of their work illegal?
Last I heard Congress has exempted themselves from practically everything they put citizens through.
Are CONgressional spouses exempt from FISA searches? How about their sons and daughters? Their parents? Their siblings? Their best buddies? Their personal staff?
no politician is going to do anything against it
and to think they will is pretending
I think they are fools for believing they are actually excluded from it.
The proof is they all remain compromised & controlled.
But Congress gave themselves legal cover. Next time someone like Brennan or Clapper spies on them, they have legal recourse.
You’d think congress would be smart enough to realize, any promise/bill to exclude them, when dealing with corrupt liars,…is not going to be honored.
It’s not like they can complain “No fair!” AFTER their crimes against humanity are exposed, who will listen or care?
CM-TX:
Correction:
WE would be fools for taking the exemption seriously.
If the truth is that the IC surveil with impunity, and FISA is window dressing used as a means to act on certain intel as well as a Limited Hangout, then Congress knows better than anyone that all are 100% surveiled.
True, but of all the people we see these days, it is the politician that hates to be embarrassed, hates to be exposed for the fools they are, so it is up to people, the citizens, to create the change of actions, to make the Chip Roy’s and Massie’s and Rand Paul’s stop pretending to be ‘freedom caucus’ and ‘libertarian’ minded and embarrass them enough to actually do a real freedom caucus thing – stop exempting members of congress from the laws they pass.
Until these screen-hogs start facing the real music of their lies, correct, nothing will change.
Did Tulsi get the same briefings from the CIA/NSA that Mike Johnson got that caused him to do a 180 on surveillance? Not sure you should be so confident of Tulsi as ODNI. Trump should look for a new candidate.
Anyone new faces the same hurdle.
The SSCI in particular but all committees in general have appointed themselves as a Praetorian Guard under the auspices of “advise & consent.”
As if that somehow authorizes them to dictate the terms under which they’ll consent. As if they can dictate adherence & blind support of unconstitutional laws. Clearly we’re in a post constitutional country.
Another candidate will face the same terms.
If Gabbard tries to reverse her decision to support 702 you don’t think very bad things may happen to her or her family?
Bad things are going to happen anyway, it’s what the left does, so really – what does she have to lose at this stage in the game compared to what she, and the country, has to gain?
Yes, I remember that Biden falsely promised the most transparent administration in history….and obama falsely said he didn’t believe in homosexual marriage, Etc. Evolve, and move on is a one-way street named Democrat Circle.
Are you sure it’s the leftists controlling the government?
That’s why we needed a candidate who would go in wrest the levers of power and threaten them first….like Bannon. Can’t have someone who is frozen with fear we would never have change. So far it looks like they haven’t put the fear in PT.
the only way we are getting our rights back is if the perps feel like they’ve a got a gun to their heads.
literally, they must be afraid of what will happen if they keep trampling our rights. they have no fear at this point. and so it will go on because it can.
b) the way to do that is to remove the exemption from the 702 provisions that Congress voted for itself.
I don’t think the FISA can be fixed. The whole basis of it is to be able to violate the 4th amendment in the interest of “national security”, the details of which we the people are not even allowed to see.
It needs to be eliminated.
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Ideas? Solutions? I would really like to see some bullet points.
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I think its past time for a new movement for the people
We can start it right here
Kill the patriot Bill
No 702
stickers
petitions
protests
media blitz
TIKTOK videos explaining it
Memes Mock them
get Candidates elected on the platform
have everyone here start to mention it in every comment you make online
or in correspondence with the media or Government
a movement is needed
use their tactics
demand it!
put the pressure on our politicians by continually asking and hounding them on it
at every press function
KEPP REPEATING THE MESSAGE EVERYWHERE
NOBODY in Government is on our side
I agree with this. But, my long held solution is to not participate (even as I participate here, online, subject to 702).
Turn off the Internet. No cell phones. No televisions. No social media. Those are huge attack vectors.
Use cash for as many transactions as is possible.
I have refused air travel, but would in an emergency.
Don’t allow your vehicle to be tracked (that takes some doing with all the surveillance cameras everywhere).
Learn to disguise yourself for public places.
Become debt free if possible.
Become as self-sufficient as possible.
Basically, live like the Amish if you can. You give the government less to look at.
or
Study how to disappear (nearly impossible now, but worth studying).
Sounds dramatic, but people who survived genocide had to learn these things.
HOWEVER, while one should know how to do all of the above, we should be screaming at the top of our lungs that FISA 702 is corrupt, and unconsitutional.
Trump will lose all my support if he supports FISA 702. Period. If we don’t have our Liberty, we have nothing. And it’s only a matter of time before someone we should truly dread becomes the Dictator of our country.
Makes a mockery of America as “Land of the Free”, doesn’t it, sis…
I could argue we haven’t been that in decades.
I’ve often said that lone among other nations we are known under two names…America and the United States. These two are not the same nor are they interchangeable.
I posit now that the United States has morphed into a foreign government, intent on enslaving and ruling with a Stalinist iron fist over America. That is the view I take.
Or to reprise Voltaire (though the well known quote is argued to be wrongly attributed to him)…
“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”
There is no doubt we are considered the enemy by a corrupt cabal whose lies have been exposed by the many successful terror attacks in various parts of the country over the years, the prevention of which they claim is FISA’s sole raison d’être.
I dare say we can call them the same, and it would be the most accurate label we could assign.
As long as we know where we are…
Has President Trump ever said that FISA 702 should be repealed?
Trump calls for Roberts to resign, effective immediately. The FISA court is his charge, and is acting criminally. He must go.
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But that won’t happen and now SupCt Chief Justice is antagonized against Trump.
But you gave me a thought… Could Trump use this very system for its own destruction, bu outing the blackmail secrets via leaks against those better gotten rid of, and a “counter-blackmail” via promise to protect for other legislators and judges to take action?
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SupCt Chief Justice has been antagonized against Trump since 2016.
Outing Roberts is to be done for the country. It is a necessity.
The President must do this. It is an imperative, and he’s the only one who can do it.
How is that we even have a FISA court? Was it legislated? Created out of thin air by DoJ and/or The SCROTUS? Why is Roberts in charge of it?
Legislated in 1978.
Bullet points, ahh the good old fashioned 1775 method of changing out a tyrannical government!
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Shhhh! 🙂
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Trump’s new solicitor General can go to the Supreme Court ASAP and ask {meaning DEMAND} that Court is declare that the current FISA authorization is PERNICIOUSLY and CATAGORICALLY UNCONTITUTIONAL . PERIOD!
The whole procedure should about a few minutes and the decision should take even less. If DOJ wants to be present, as may be proper, that is fine so long as the individual representing Trump’s new DOJ is under strict instructions to STFU and under no circumstances object or interfere with the process whatsoever, i.e., passively agree with the Solicitor General completely
Creating? No, they’re IMPROVING.
Visual satellites are definitely not keeping track of individuals (via their vehicles) unless they present an extreme threat making that worthwhile. Electronic tracking (cell phone, debit and credit cards) is far easier and more likely.
The All-Seeing Satellites That Know Your Next Move and the Military’s AI (Sentient)
10 Jan 2025
LOL, the answer to “Is the United States a surveillance state?” by DuckDuckGo’s AI Assist:
Yes, the United States is often described as a surveillance state due to its extensive use of electronic monitoring and data collection by various government agencies, particularly after the events of September 11, 2001. This includes mass surveillance programs that collect and analyze vast amounts of personal data from citizens without warrants.
No need for satellites. The internet tracks and locates you. My Safari report: In last 30 days prevented 135 trackers from tracking you. 45 websites contacted double-click.net profiling you prevented. I’m not saying Safari is secure but it’s a start.
I’ll believe AI is sentient only when it cracks a good joke.
You may be onto something. Humor could well be a litmus test that transhumans will most certainly fail. As it is, leftists have NO sense of humor to impart to anything that they create.
At some point, we will need a national 1946 Battle of Athens type of uprising or America as we have known it will be lost.
I suspect that just such an “uprising” is already taking place – albeit in a different form.
“Literal violence” is usually not the secret. When you light such a fire, it usually just burns out of control. Instead, I think that what the Public must now manifest is: “bright-eyed awareness, and intolerance.”
Just as you see when you unexpectedly turn the lights on in the kitchen, late at night . . . “they scatter.”
If the People of this nation now plainly see what is confronting them, and refuse to accept it, then it cannot prevail against them.
I’d venture TOTALLY eliminating the Fed would be a HUGE help!!!
President Trump’s 4th Amendment rights have been violated time and time again. I would think he would understand how much this MUST be protected. Sadly, the giving up liberty for security is winning.
Sundance,
What steps can We the People take to defeat this? Or is it hopeless?
Never allow anyone to tell you that anything is “hopeless.”
Let President Trump wield the power to uncover true crimes against humanity and slay all our enemies. THEN we can dump it.
Over 90% of the population has no idea what the phrase “FISA-702” even means or relates to.
The education is not going to come from the MSM.
The “conservative” side of media never presents an unified message over a prolonged period of time. “OMG, look at what Sundance authored, he’s the competition, let’s counter with some unrelated tick-tock”.
Citizen…: I’d say more like 99%.
First Principles:
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”
Liberty is given to each of us individually as a gift from our Creator-Almighty God. What God has given us cannot be taken away by any man.
There is no individual liberty apart from God. The rest of these “First Principles” flow naturally from this self evident truth.
And yet, I am determined that we can still recover this Republic without demolishing it. If we are sufficiently determined to dig down to the rot at its true source, and then to eliminate that rot, we still have the capacity to do so.
“The fault here” lies not with the prescient Founders, but with those who have come since. We can still set this ship aright, i-f we are determined to do so. “Going to war with ourselves” would accomplish nothing of value. We have to roll up our sleeves, dig down within this system that we have created, and fix it.
It will not be easy, and we will encounter “mountains of sewage.”
Ours is still one of the most-spectacular political systems ever made by man – and set down on exactly three handwritten pieces of vellum. If “hundreds of millions of people” are now determined with clear vision to set things right, nothing can stop them from doing so.
There are former military people that have thought about this long ago from reading this posting from a taxi cab driver who picked up a interesting passenger long ago. (I’m surprised it has been allowed to stay up)
https://taxicabdepressions.com/?p=1193
Good read. Interesting.
WOW!!!! Don’t skip this excellent description of the workings of Big Government almost 11 years ago. I’m convinced we’d be far better off with a Congress comprised of history reading taxi drivers.
No better analogy to our lives than the cleverly encroaching pig shoot.
I remember reading about all of the described travesties at the time – right here on CTH. None have improved in the slightest.
It’s refreshing to read a clear eyed observation of what is happening in our country from before DJT, he’s not mentioned, nothing is blamed on him, and these problems most certainly existed before his tenure in office.
I agree with you Mike. With God’s blessing our Constitutional Republic can be restored.
In my opinion, the very first thing that has to happen is that the Christian Church in America MUST wake up and become active in our culture. Of course this includes all of the Christian pastors and preachers who have been asleep at the switch for far too long.
Just as importantly, it includes the millions of American Christians who sit in the pews of those churches. A huge percentage of those Christians don’t vote! That’s shameful!!
Worse, a huge percentage don’t pray for revival or speak out in their communities for government reform or speak to their neighbors about the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
We need ordinary American Christians to be evangelists for Jesus Christ for sure, but we also need evangelists for an authentic Christian culture.
God will bless our efforts.
By the way, I would say that the top priority for such a Christian revival, second only to winning souls for Christ, would be to burn the surveillance state to the ground. Everything else takes a back seat to that.
First things first, we need to TOTALLY eliminate abortion and protect His babies!
Is it Democrat politians or rather Republican politicians that have no appreciation of patriotism and real law and order that are for whatever motives prepared to destroy their country?
Both
Our entire congress has been taken over by blackmail, bribery and immorality. Let’s start there and help President Trump eliminate all of them.
Move the FISA courts out of DC.
Require County Sheriff sign off on use of 702 authorization to surveil a resident of the county. (Keep the abuse as close to those who are abused as possible).
Increase number of IG’s at DOJ auditing the process. Again, locate them out of DC.
Keep the process of audit transparent to the public.
Implement all of this via legislation, not EO or DOJ policy.
We should keep in mind one important fact while puzzling through the mechanics of reforming the system from within: the post-nationalists in all their varieties who do not want reform have never been content to accept the results of the contest within the system. Obedience to law is for you, not for them. They have resorted to violence at least as far back as the attempted assassination of Henry Ford in the early 1920’s. They see rule of law and even more so constraint and guidance of rule of law by constitution as weapons to be wielded when convenient and irrelevancies to be ignored when inconvenient.
Pres. Trump should understand this well by now, having been the recipient of several assassination attempts. The two with bullets are the obvious ones, but the lawfare attempting to put him in prison until he died of old age qualifies as attempted assassination by my count as well. They prefer the fig leaf of authority over their killings so as not to minimize opposition.
The struggle against post-nationalism that is a fundamental prerequisite to any attempt to restore the Republic must neutralize their capacity for extra-judicial violence. If assassins are allowed to rule over America, then the world will be divided into two camps, the Free (of Blackrock) World and the Assassin’s World. Your descendants will be on the wrong side of that line.
The problem isn’t post-nationalism.
The problem is post-Christianity!
‘Either the Fourth Amendment means something, or it does not!’
To the liberal-arts-college-educated elites, indoctrinated with the exhilarating possibilities of postmodernism, there is another condition:
It means whatever they distort it to mean.
A recent example is the twisting of the immutable sex identity in the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to include fluid self-assigned “gender identity”. (More recently this attempted twisting has been corrected, with respect to Title IX, https://www.foxnews.com/sports/federal-judge-strikes-down-biden-admins-title-ix-rewrite)
The battle with evil never ends, it just keeps shapeshifting.
Begin by repealing the Patriot Act. That should be initiated on Day One. It is from this poisonous tree that many of the other poisonous fruits were sprouted.
This thousand-page document was not written after 9/11. No one can write that fast. Instead, it already existed, and was just waiting for a “scary excuse” to ratify it.
Mike: I’m with you. We need to eliminate the cynically named Patriot Act.
JMO.
President Trump’s change of the 2025 Executive Branch, bringing it back into Constitutional Compliance will put it into an adversarial relationship with the two globalist / communist infiltrated branches, legislative and judicial.
Being Constitutional Compliant is the legal base line for the Executive Branch of our Constitutional Republic. The Executive Branch being non-Constitutional Compliant is abhorrent to any American patriot.
Don’t pay much attention to the advise and consent roadblocks put in front of our advancing forces.
The senator sentries manning the roadblocks bark loud but are toothless.
President Trump always has a fail-safe method of “confirming” his appointees and they know it. But, “regular order” is the song being played and he will dance to it as long as it doesn’t interfere with his Making America Great Again.
Some are expressing their concerns about the reported appointee comments coming out of the conversations with the sentries.
The founding fathers had a reason for scheduling the so-called “advice and consent” proceedings to be “pre” oath taking, not “post” oath taking for Executive Branch appointees.
The founding fathers never thought that a senator would ask for a commitment from an Executive Branch appointee that was unconstitutional. But, just in case, they wanted the appointee and the world to know that his oath of office will be the legally binding source for reviewing his actions while in office.
“Let’s go Brandon and the globalist / communist and the whole damn democrat party, up and down the ticket!”
Inside the World’s Largest AI Supercluster (Musk’s) xAI Colossus
638,644 views – Oct 28, 2024
NSA’s Utah Data Center. Click to enlarge:
Wouldn’t be surprised if the NSA Data center has its own power generation.
That’s a lot of power needed to keep those processors running.
Can you imagine the cost to keep that center up and running..!
Kind of like painting the Golden Gate Bridge. Start at one end maintaining and replacing computers. Then start over again when you reach the other end of the complex.
From what I understand, not just power, but also water.
See: https://utulsa.edu/news/data-centers-draining-resources-in-water-stressed-communities/
As just one selection from a search engine request:
https://www.startpage.com/do/dsearch?q=data+centers+use+of+water&cat=web&language=english
Not good, particularly out West with their peoples water needs already at issue, and have been for some time in more than a few places.
Not good at all for MAGA, IMO.
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The energy required to cool those processors — ever rrrrring — takes resources away from we, the people to live comfortably.
Hence, there is no trading safety (supposedly due to all the data collected) for comfort. We are not safe just because there is data collection, yet our comfort is compromised.
The leap of ‘faith’ the government wants us to take is to believe data collected will yield actionable results. When we see that just because data is assembled, our safety has not been impacted — especially if the action taken due to a specified threat that was netted from collected data is to:
– set up Whitmer kidnapping scheme;
– entice patriots into the Capitol just to arrest them for trespassing in their, the people’s own house;
– allow millions of illegal aliens into this country and not charge/hold them for committing abhorrent crimes, which leads to even more heinous crimes;
– etc.
It does not bode well to be constructing MORE of these data collection centers, requiring MORE of our precious resources to maintain, which leads to MORE of the abuses as described above, only to put we, the people, in a LESS than comfortable position.
As others have pointed out the dichotomy of ‘environmentalists’ who rail against ‘oil’ while paddling their plastic kayaks, this dichotomy of the ‘saviors’ of our society in telling us this collection of data used to surveil supposed threats, is more threatening to our comfort than the safety we are supposed to gain from it all.
Further, if the data being collected has so much value to us as a people, why do not ever see that value.
As a businessman, I should think that PDJT would need to be shown the value of these expenditures before green-lighting any further building. And, as our citizen elected chief executive, his mandate is beholden to we, the people, to reveal that value or squash the proposition altogether.
The parking lots are so far away from the building.
Controlled access. Nevada Test Site is like that. Park outside the gate, get on the bus cleared to access site.
The way you put out fires is to choke them of oxygen….
The way you control the Government is to choke it of funding….
That is the only path back…
NO MERCY!
HEAR! HEAR!
I have been saying for years that we need to de-fund Congress by repealing the Federal Income tax. Our hard-earned tax money is not a pot o’ gold for the Federal government and Congress to waste as it chooses. We The People need to demand elimination of all Federal departments and functions not enumerated in the Constitution. The Federal bureaucracy is like kudzu and needs to be chopped back and its roots burnt out. The States can run, regulate, and fund themselves.
That’s an insult to kudzu!
Eliminate the Fed!!!
As I said in another comment section, this is all going to end very soon. God is going to intervene. The Warning is the final act of mercy from God, and it’s coming soon-in this generation. Trust God and live a spiritual life.
We’re in bondage until then, there’s no way out unless millions of people are engaged.
If Congress decided “Blackmail be Damned!” and repealed FISA tomorrow, it wouldn’t really matter.
As Sundance noted, the Deep State will keep on doing it anyway, with or without a legal basis.
They have ZERO intentions of following the Law–and not just FISA, but any and all our laws. Bribery, Treason, Sedition, Blackmail, Murder, Election Law, Conspiracy Against Rights, Censorship, etc, etc.
So WE are going to repeal the Deep State ITSELF, praise God! Batten down the hatches.
John 14:
11-14 “Believe me: I am in my Father and my Father is in me. If you can’t believe that, believe what you see—these works. The person who trusts me will not only do what I’m doing but even greater things, because I, on my way to the Father, am giving you the same work to do that I’ve been doing. You can count on it. From now on, whatever you request along the lines of who I am and what I am doing, I’ll do it. That’s how the Father will be seen for who he is in the Son. I mean it. Whatever you request in this way, I’ll do.”
The Word of the King, Amen!
The Fourth Amendment has long ago been rendered nearly nonexistent.
Does anyone use SLNT or other type of privacy products? We don’t have Alexa or smart technology utilities, would it help to completely dispense with a phone?
Does the fact that we’re all now visible from space, and living with ubiquitous cameras on every corner mean that it’s hopeless?
Do we have a Bill of Rights or not?
What congress and Executive Orders left standing have done has created work arounds for all of it. Reagan’s EO 12333 from 1981 empowers the CIA and the surveillance state, no president has ended it.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/08/a-twisted-history-how-a-reagan-era-executive-order-led-to-mass-spying/
It’s much more than just FISA. There will be a call to arms, so to speak, to end the SS.
If it’s not ended, then there will be a literal call to arms. That is what the SS is preparing for.
Thanks for the Ars link, fascinating.
We have a Bill of Rights that is routinely trampled. The plandemic was a pilot run of expanded trampling.
The SS is completely opaque, extralegal, and impervious, and because it has complete visibility of all, any potential challenge can be nipped in the bud by the SS before it becomes a problem to the SS.
The tools available to stop any “call to arms” are complete. Any and everything needed for opposition to operate can be shut down at will by the SS if necessary, but well before that point is reached there are myriad covert tools of “persuasion”.
This isn’t the 1770s or the 1860s.
Brilliant, just brilliant
Has anyone mentioned to them, our employees, that we should be the ones keep1ng a close eye on them, not the other way around?
it is their government, not our government
when will people realize it?
DC ALWAYS WINS: Tulsi’s Flip On Warrantless Surveillance (14:40)
Glenn Greenwald
11 Jan 2025
Yep, they get to pick their dirty prosecutors, their dirty judges, etc.
So if Tulsi tells them she wants complete destruction of FISAS-702 what do we gain?
The MSM makes her out as a risk to national security and they move on to someone who says what they want to hear or is a known operative to them.
JMO.
You make a good comment about what governs the answer an appointee gives to a senator.
To that point.
The founding fathers had a reason for scheduling the so-called “advice and consent” proceedings to be “pre” oath taking, not “post” oath taking for Executive Branch appointees.
The founding fathers never thought that an American senator would ask for a commitment from an Executive Branch appointee that was unconstitutional.
But, just in case, they wanted the appointee and the world to know that his oath of office will be the legally binding source governing his actions while in office.
“Let’s go Brandon and the globalist / communist and the whole damn democrat party, up and down the ticket!”
Thin how many people were shocked by the Edward Snowden story when the movie came out. I think they mostly recognized it was accurate, even twenty years ago.
Mel Gibson or some similar movie producer should keep making true to life movies which expose the extent to which we are all little Trumans, a lá The Truman Show.
Popular entertainment, even when scary, draws more viewers than biased legacy news or heavy on the reading conservative media.
We have to recognize that these are sociopaths. They know no boundaries or have any sensitivity to the rights of other nor do they have a conscience of stepping over dead bodies to get what they want. If we push, they push back harder if we let them. They will push continuously till they achieve their control of everything. They will not succeed because there too many who will not bow down but if we permit they will continue to hurt anyone in their way till we force a dead stop.
We must have a continuous mindset about this and refresh it every year for every age group.
And Musk’s star link satellites more than not probably are used by the IC to enhance their spying capabilities. Remember the USAID hired them to supply Ukraine military with ‘communications’ don’t think Musk isn’t being paid to use the same technology on us if not now eventually. Especially given that Musk owes the CIA since they rescued SpaceX when it was financially struggling in its infancy. Add to this the relationship of the Paypal Mafia which includes Musk and Thiel.
And since Congress exempts itself from the same IC surveillance will they ever truly work for We the People when it comes abiding by the 4th Amendment. Term limits would be a good start but there also needs to be legislation that state Congress must not exempt itself from legislation they pass. Like exempting itself from FISA-702 and Obamacare.
FISA 702 is the other shoe that is dropping.
It was nice for a few moments in time believing that a Trump presidency was going to change our trajectory.
President Trump has yet to be sworn in. Oh ye of little faith.
Before you get to eat your cake, you’ve first got to make it. A messy process, at the best of times.
For me, all this preparation is part of the WEF operation, in preparation of the 15 minute Cities program, and that information is on line now, and has been.
WE as a society, who wish the Founding Documents return, must remove ourselves and the cancer within us from the United Nations. From the beginning, the hub of the long term goals of the “elite” came with intent. This little powerpoint will show
the anatomy of the fraud. What theUN would rather you not know: United Nations // Not Know: http://http://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/embed_code/38199716
If you believe “national security” is justification for hiding the truth, you are part of the problem. Because you fundamentally trust those claiming that hiding the truth is necessary.
The answer: “Demanding the truth (about CBDC, rape gangs, child trafficking, etc.), EVEN IF it will threaten national security or the stability of the government.
As I first watch the Tucker Carlson video with regard to Mike Johnson, my initial response is….what does the intelligence community have on him? I suppose we can take that even further, even with regard to the second video. We all hear about the questionable behavior of those in Congress (using tax dollars as settlements), the Epstein escapades, etc. The question becomes, is there anyone in public office that does not have skeletons in their closet, that can be used and abused by the IC, or who cannot be bought? Amusingly, with respect to what we have seen over the course of the past few years, it would appear that the only public figure I can think of is…..Donald Trump.
“What is the value of national security, when the liberty that secures the values of America is destroyed in the process?”
Saying the magic words “national security” can be used to justify anything.
The Blob has been using the national security excuse nonstop for decades
even Trump uses it himself.
Panama
Greenland
are just the latest examples
Yes, like Trump saying having Greenland is vital to our national security, even though having it would not stop a single illegal alien from coming across our southern border.
But it might keep China on it’s toes!
Congress exempted themselves from being watched by NSA under FISA 702!
I guess they think the Constitution was written to protect them and no one else?
Is the river to wide to cross? Every bridge we build seems to turn to straw. President Trump is only one man and, though powerful, still has to rely on others. Are there others?
What can you do visa vis the surveillance state? Do these to reduce your footprint by 90%
#1 Get a privacy phone and one or more new phone numbers. Modern surveillance is centered around your phone number.
Privacy phones block location tracking (looking at you FBI). Go to youtube and find Rob Braxman and follow his advice.
#2 Stop using iPhone, iPad, or android phones. These products track you even when turned off. Stop using Apple computers and now even Windows computers. They have AI scanning your content. AI scans your content while the data is not encrypted. Use a linux computer. Stop your complaining and just do it.
#3 You can still use any website/app on a browser, just don’t login. Google maps – OK, Facebook – no, Gmail – no. You get the idea.
Sundance, in paragraphs 7 & 8 2013 should be 2023?
If you want to know why the left is constantly hijacking (and ultimately destroying the meaning of) certain words used in everyday humanistic speech and language, focus for a moment on the two specific adjectives that are used in the 4th Amendment to give the whole thing its structural parameters:
“UNREASONABLE” searches and seizures, and
“PROBABLE” cause [for the issuance of search warrants to give legal validity to a search and/or seizure].
What Kash, and Johnson, the members of the HSPCI and SSCI, the IC, and all the other left/right, corrupt, greedy, power-mad, hoodlum politicians, judges, and grifters in Washington DC want you to believe is that nothing is UNREASONABLE about searching [surveilling] and seizing every bit of information about we Americans, and that all causes for the issuance of legally valid warrants against us are PROBABLE, because such abuses of our liberties are necessary to protect our “national security” interests. (two more hijacked adjectives)
The all-controlling, techno-surveillance, master-of-the-universe state is coming, and there is nothing the plebes can do to stop it short of removing the head of the snake. I doubt this beta-ized country has the balls to do that.
The invention of “money” and the advance of technology will be the cause of humanity’s downfall. So sad, because simple honesty and integrity among men could have made the whole thing Eden-like for eternity.
time to destroy DC…..
part of LA……surely is….
This obviously needs to be fixed, now.
We have seen how the FBI flagrantly used FISA to go after someone as prominent as President Trump for all to see. Imagine what they are willing to do to you or me.
I hope the President formally makes public their abuse of his rights. I think he will. God willing, the courts will” uphold our right to privacy and limit this surveillance.
“The means of defense against foreign danger have been always the instruments of tyranny at home.“
James Madison – Speech, Constitutional Convention (June 29, 1787)
Generation after Generation has the same line when proceeding with a questionable act or project.
“Well it won’t matter if this turned into a disaster down the road, we won’t be here to worry about it”.
The time for that excuse has long since past.
“What is the value of national security, when the liberty that secures the values of America is destroyed in the process?”
Indeed. They sell it to those of us on the right as national security. They sell it to those on the left as diversity, equity, and inclusion. Both are rationales for tinkering with but preserving the corrupt system.
But on another note, while I agree with Sundance regarding the Surveillance State, I see it as a symptom rather than the disease. Mid-20th Century a completely corrupt criminal justice system included corrupt police, prosecutors, judges, prison wardens, all of it. But you could not clean it up by going after the corrupt actors. The clean up required taking on the organized crime families that were ultimately behind the corruption, funding and perpetuating it.
The system is not controlled by the Surveillance State. The Surveillance State is funded and controlled by the multinational corporations and global elite. It is a symptom of the disease. The disease is the international banking and financialist system. THAT is what we have to dismantle.
Good luck.
The situation sounds impossible.
Remind myself: “With God, all things are possible.”
https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/tulsi-gabbard-says-she-now-supports-controversial-surveillance-law-5789879?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=TheLibertyDaily
A definite pattern developing with Trump admin picks.
Purge is an ugly word, with even uglier implications given our knowledge of their use by Roosevelt’s favorite guy, Joe Stalin, but, a purge is probably the only way we will restore a Constitutional Republic in this country. For far too long We the People sat idly by and watched the evolution of a political caste system in DC. Our “public servants” embarked upon a path to which they would become our elite masters, instead of being public servants and we let them.
The huge apathy which existed in the general population with regard to politics, coupled with the denigration of the educational system, another victim of apathy which leftists took advantage of to dumb down our children, has borne fruit….we’re told to sit down and shut up, we know what’s best for you! Believe it or we’ll put you in jail.
We are now living in Plato’s vision of the world, wherein “philosopher kings” who are born smarter and nobler than us little people RULE us rather than governing based upon our desires.
Outing “The Surveillance” has bee Anonymous Conservative’s focus for years.
https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/news-briefs-01-11-2025/
The Trey GOWDY EFFECT. Mike Johnson, Jonny RHATCLIFF, On and on.
Take away this mess and all their $$$ stealing abilities will be taken away from them. Just think the bribary ability in this core power.
Trillions are at stake.
Steal Technology thru this system sell the Technology.
Bribe CEO’s make them pass off billions into offshore accounts.
On and on.
Come Lord Jesus.
Busy doing Sat. Chores I skimmed the article and Wrote the above.
Sat down for lunch listened to the vids and reread the article with a much different take.
Thank you Sundance for clarifying this.
These idiots in DC are planting the seeds of revolution. They are just too arrogant to see or believe that it will happen here.