After President Trump noted there are issues with the Panama Canal management, costs and fees being paid by American transit companies for goods that flow through the canal, the President of Panama José Raúl Mulino hit back strongly.
President Mulino is a conservative nationalist who won election seven months ago. Mulino did not like the implications of President Trump contemplating a renegotiation of the Panama Canal Treaty, with ownership and management given by the USA to Panama in 1999. Mulino hit back releasing a video statement [SEE HERE] with the transcript of his remarks below:
“As President, I want to express clearly that every square meter of the Panama Canal and its adjacent area belongs to Panama, and will continue to do so. The sovereignty and independence of our country are not negotiable.
Every Panamanian, here or anywhere in the world, carries it in their heart, and it is part of our history of struggle and an irreversible conquest.
The Torrijos-Carter Treaties of 1977 agreed to the dissolution of the former Canal Zone, recognizing Panamanian sovereignty and the complete transfer of the Canal to Panama, which ended on December 31, 1999. And we will soon celebrate the 25th anniversary of this transfer. Since then, there have been no objections or claims; on the contrary, it has been a source of strong international support and national pride. It was operated and expanded by Panamanian decision and today represents a great asset that contributes billions of dollars to our economy.
These treaties also established the permanent neutrality of the Canal, guaranteeing its open and safe operation for all nations, a treaty that has obtained the adherence of more than 40 States.
Any contrary position has no validity or support on the face of the earth. Our Canal has the mission of serving humanity and its commerce. That is one of the great values that we Panamanians offer to the world, giving the international community a guarantee of not taking part, nor being an active part, in any conflict.
Since it has been in Panamanian hands, the Canal has grown. It is managed by qualified professionals who, with clear rules, are responsible for its operation, conservation and maintenance, ensuring its safe, continuous, efficient and profitable operation.
Rates are not a whim. They are established publicly and in an open hearing, taking into account market conditions, international competition, operating costs, and the maintenance and modernization needs of the interoceanic route. This is how we achieved the expansion of the Canal in 2016, which today represents greater economic and commercial growth, generating more wealth and opportunities throughout the world and its trade.
The Canal is not under direct or indirect control, neither by China, nor by the European Community, nor by the United States, nor by any other power.
As a Panamanian, I strongly reject any manifestation that distorts this reality. And it will continue to be in Panamanian hands as an inalienable heritage of our Nation, guaranteeing its use for the peaceful and uninterrupted transit of ships from all nations, as established by our Constitution and the Neutrality Treaty. This is the greatest tribute that the martyrs of January 9, 1964 deserve, who sacrificed their lives in the struggle for the sovereignty and dignity of our country, and all Panamanians who participated in an unprecedented generational struggle.
Panama respects other nations and demands respect.
With the new U.S. government, I hope to preserve and maintain a good and respectful relationship. Security issues such as illegal migration, drug trafficking and organized crime must be a priority on our bilateral agenda, as they are a real threat that should concern us greatly.
We Panamanians may think differently on many issues, but when it comes to our Canal and our sovereignty, we all unite under a single flag, that of Panama.
We are a country open to dialogue, today and always, to investments and good relations, but with the clear motto that the country comes first.
That, for this Panamanian President, is not negotiable.”
[SOURCE]
In response to President José Raúl Mulino, President Donald Trump released the following message from his Truth Social account.
It would appear there is going to be some further discussion of these issues between President Trump and President Mulino.
I suspect there is going to be a bilateral trade agreement opened and renegotiated between the USA and Panama. Perhaps tariffs on Panama goods flowing into the U.S. along with central American financial mechanisms, travel restrictions and potential other aspects coming into play.
In the end of that complicated dynamic, expect to see USA flagged carriers with negotiated special transit costs.
After all, “Economic Security is National Security.”
President Trump: “I am pleased to announce Mauricio Claver-Carone as the State Department’s Special Envoy for Latin America. Mauricio has served in many important roles, including the White House, as my Senior Director for Western Hemisphere Affairs. Over the last four years, chaos and anarchy have engulfed our Borders. It is time to restore order in our own hemisphere. Mauricio knows the region, and how to put America’s interests FIRST. He also knows the dire threats we face from illegal mass migration and fentanyl. As the State Department’s Special Envoy, Mauricio will work tirelessly to protect the American People.” (SOURCE)
Maybe there is something tied to that Panama Papers story from a while ago? 🤔🤔
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2016/04/04/the-panama-papers-notice-which-newspaper-could-not-be-trusted-with-the-intel/
Ah yes … the Panama Papers …. allot of stuff in there about finances, power and graft by the crime FAMILIES … Clinton, Obama and Biden … as well as US US Government and several International NGO dirty dealings.
To fair to the Government of Panama … the papers have little if anything to do with Panama … Panama is where the papers were “found”.
After what we have learned over the past 10 years … it is interesting that these have not resurfaced. Wonder who really controls them … looking at you US IC.
It would be worth the time of one of President Trump’s staff to unearth and publish them. The reveal in these papers exceeds anything sitting unseen to date.
Was McNoName born in Panama?
“It would be worth the time of one of President Trump’s staff to unearth and publish them.”
Maybe they’ve already unearthed them and this is the result — so far.
I read in the icij.org that in June of this year 2024, all 28 defendants were acquitted of money laundering.
SHOCKER/Yuuuuge S
My understanding is the “sale” agreement had a clause in it that Trump could use to take it back (i.e. China’s obvious influence being a threat to free transit of good).
Tie this with Greenland and we’re in for a very interesting ride.
Greenland for #53!
Greenland has huge deposits of uranium, rare earths and other minerals that would enhance US security, especially when you consider that the US has neglected securing these minerals in other places around the world for decades. Denmark, who owns Greenland, has declared it will be kept neutral. That’s a good thing, but it also means that the mining profits won’t go to US companies. So ask yourself, why wouldn’t Denmark be a good neighbor? The profits would help Denmark, who is a founding NATO member, help pays its bills and reimburse the US for doing so in the past.
I would not be surprised to see the UK and the CCP-PRC making a deal selling off the white stuff from the White Cliffs of Dover. Giant cranes on barges scraping off the stuff and transporting it away, to somewhere else to be further processed . . . and oh, by the way, whatever else they might find while doing that.
We have every mineral needed to manufacture any product right here in America. Rockerfellers have tied it up in National parks and will never be permitted. IE: ANWR 6,000,000 Acres in Alaska Turned into BLM land thru A BS bill with Clinton. We have enough Natural Gas oil Gold Lithium Uranium, and any other metal needed to build anything. I had a hand in the Fort Knox Gold Mine Outside Fairbanks Alaska working 24-7 thru -60 Temps. When it’s out of mineral content Alaskas largest Recreation facility will be handed over to the state. Produces 2500 ounces of gold daily 2200 silver. In 1993 when we started it was a 5 year plan. It has just been extended to 2035.
Know any Danes?
Continueing misconception about Rare Earths; they are not rare, they are everywhere, including plenty here in the U.S.
They are RARE, in the sense that they are spread very thinly in the earths surface, so that you need to dig up a LOT of dirt, and process the heck out of it, in order to extract a small amount of these minerals, and the “tailings” left over, have concentrations of radioactive and toxic substances, so disposal is problematic.
So, unless the idea is to exploit Greenland for its “rare” earth minerals, with no environmental concerns, Greenland minerals offer nothing over whats already here.
We have a huge mine, in the U.S. that IIRC had figured out how they were going to operate, in an environmentally responsible way, but U.S. Officials refused to licence them.
China bribe? Need to develop a cleaner way to refine, or use for the waste, or something.
China just does’t CARE if they trash the envirinment, apperently.
From the Hay-Bunau-Varilla Treaty in 1903 —
“ARTICLE XX
If by virtue of any existing treaty in relation to the territory of the Isthmus of Panama, whereof the obligations shall descend or be assumed by the Republic of Panama, there may be any privilege or concession in favor the Government or the citizens and subjects of a third power relative to an interoceanic means of communication which in any of its terms may be incompatible with the terms of the present convention, the Republic of Panama agrees to cancel or modify such treaty in due form, for which purpose it shall give to the said third power the requisite notification within the term of four months from the date of the present convention, and in case the existing treaty contains no clause permitting its modification or annulment, the Republic of Panama agrees to procure its modification or annulment in such form that there shall not exist any conflict with the stipulations of the present convention.”
FIREWORKS! Trump Fires Back at Panama’s President For Claiming “Every Square Meter” of the Panama Canal Belongs to Panama | The Gateway Pundit:
“The United States has a vested interest in the secure, efficient, and reliable operation of the Panama Canal, and that was always understood. We would and will NEVER let it fall into the wrong hands! It was not given for the benefit of others, but merely as a token of cooperation with us and Panama. If the principles, both moral and legal, of this magnanimous gesture of giving are not followed, then we will demand that the Panama Canal be returned to us, in full, and without question. To the Officials of Panama, please be guided accordingly!”
CIAWiki:
“This first treaty is officially titled The Treaty Concerning the Permanent Neutrality and Operation of the Panama Canal and is commonly known as the “Neutrality Treaty”. Under this treaty, the U.S. retained the permanent right to defend the canal from any threat that might interfere with its continued neutral service to ships of all nations. The second treaty is titled The Panama Canal Treaty and provided that as from 12:00 on December 31, 1999, Panama would assume full control of canal operations and become primarily responsible for its defense.”
Wiki just added this:
Revanchism:
“In December 2024, US President-elect Donald Trump criticized the Panama Canal passage rates being charged by Panama as being too expensive, warned against potential Chinese control of or influence over the canal, and raised the possibility of a US demand for the full & immediate return of control over the canal to the United States. Panama’s President José Raúl Mulino immediately rejected each point of this criticism and pre-emptively refused to return the canal.”
Is it ‘revanchism’–or defending the canal from any threat as the Treaty stipulates?
It’s the same old, same old: they take him literally, but not seriously. This anti-war, anti-empire President is not going to invade Panama.
In fact, PDT is liberating BOTH nations from the Chinese/Deep State UNI-GOVERNMENT.
You’re welcome!
China is in Brazil and Peru as well.
The 1903 treaty said, in my very simple paraphrase, that if the canal goes back to Panama, and if Panama then allows a third party to run it or abuse it in any way, that Panama must stop the third party.
Doesn’t say what would happen if those things did happen, though.
Panama is just the start point for China Inc.’s and BRICS march across the Caribbean. The many branches of the Bank of China have established themselves on the independent and EU owned Islands … to include stakes in the major banking entities of the Cayman Islands and of course the well publicized bases in Cuba.
That march has taken China Inc. and other nations straight to our shores as owner-operators of major ports in the US. Connect ALL the dots.
By the way the leader ship levels of … the US Teamsters Union, US Longshoremen and AFL/CIO have major links internationally … just say’in.
AFL-CIO – Wikipedia
Especially the AFL/CIO which is headed by Liz Schuler who is a LAWYER and who has been part of the High-Tech Labor movement before assuming the lead of the AFL/CIO.
While across the globe but related … China Inc. is working their way towards the entrance of the Malacca Straights (a major Pacific Trade Choke Point) … making deals with Pacific Island Nations as well as the tiny nation that owns Diego Garcia off the Saudi Peninsula.
As a reminder …. the S in BRICS is for South Africa who sits on the trade route around the Southern Point of Africa …. and since 2021 Egypt (as in Suez Canal) is a BRICS member.
Connect ALL the dots.
China has also drilled a huge tunnel under the natural barrier of the Himalayas and claimed territory in Nepal, which could be a staging area for ground troops.
As I stated in another post, China copies history and I wondered if they were reverse engineering the route Alexander the Great took to India. The Chinese need oil. Perhaps they intend to take over the oil fields in the Middle East.
I have thought – since the PRC was “helping” El Bashir with guarding the oil fields in The Sudan – and then also a case of the dread disease Ebola showed up in the PRC – that the CCP-PRC was definitely working in creating some lebensraum in Africa. Then also the CCP-PRC’s support of Pakistan versus India – Pakistan down the road would make a great corridor to the Persian Gulf from the Himalayas. So the CCP-PRC has troops stationed in Africa along the Red Sea as well as swooping down from Pakistan into the Persian Gulf –
the good old pincer movement.
Diego Garcia off the Saudi Peninsula? That is pretty far “off”. 😎
You say peninsula I say subcontinent.
Potatoes tomatoes.
🙃
I got out of the Navy from Diego Garcia.
its a long way from anywhere. Long way.
When I was there it was jointly run by us and the Brits
Does this perhaps have to do with the possible lack of willingness of some South American countries to accept their own citizens back after they are deported from the US? Panama has continued to allow migration across the Darien Gap, which, if shut down, would have stopped a large percentage of the people coming across into our Hemisphere. Maybe DJT is going to use the Canal as a bargaining tool to get Panama, and other Central American Counties to accept repatriated illegals?
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Panama has been paid well to allow that traffic, by the current regime and China Inc.
Recall during President Trump’s first term … his Team was successful in negotiating foreign aid packages geared towards keeping people in the home nations in South & Central America as well as working for return of citizens. Panama was among those receiving “foreign aid” deals at the time.
20 January 2025 can not arrive soon enough.
There is a superhighway being built through the Darien Gap.
If we retake the canal we can thwart that.
I agree it’s more than the canal at stake.
The Art of the Deal.
Another area taken from Rubio’s SOS Portfolio.
It will be amusing to see what all Lil Marco is left to do.
He needs to stay in DC and clean out the Department. These envoys allows him the necessary time to do that.
Going to coach football?
“It will be amusing to see what all Lil Marco is left to do”.
My current recreational guess about Lil M’s ” to do” list:
Keep posting pics of his son’s college football games plus making appearances on the normie pacifying and guiding Fake News FOX News Network…..
While keeping in mind that if he gets out of line President Trump could, and definitely would, turn him into Tillerson 2.0 with a ” You’re Fired” tweet
I’ll bet that the Darien Gap will be part of the talks as well.
The Gap is all BidenReich with the UN and Joey Fentanyl’s Chinee Owners.
Maybe there is something tied to that Panama Papers story from a while ago? https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/15.0.3/svg/1f914.svghttps://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/15.0.3/svg/1f914.svg
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Jack Poso
@JackPosobiec
Did You Know:
The most recent US – Panama Treaty includes the right for the US to take action to keep the canal open if its neutrality is threatened
Like, for example, selling the canal operations to China
I’m just planting seeds
https://x.com/JackPosobiec/status/1871203062976794626
Trump to Mulino: “Oh, by the way, after you substantially lower your fees for US shipping, and after you stop your money laundering, bribery and kickbacks, I would appreciated it if you would close the Darien Gap to all those illegal aliens from S. America and the world who transit through Panama to the US, and end any Chinese control over any part of the Canal and surrounding territory. We look forward to an excellent relationship with Panama during my Administration.”
But Panama OWES China a lot of money as part of China’s “Belt and Road”.
Apparently, so do we. So there that 😂
China still owes us from WW2 loans.
How much ?
The Canal cost over $1 trillion to build in today’s dollars. I think Panama owes us a lot more than they owe China.
What is your point ?
Let’s not forget the CCP military base in the Caribbean.
Way back at the turn of the century (20th, that is), I thought that the Chinese were making plans in the Bahamas plus courting Cuba –
wouldn’t they love to get a hold of Cuba and Guantanamo Bay, the deep harbor there and all the facilities that the Americans built?
I recall seeing the movie “A Few Good Men” (in a movie theater) and heard people puzzled and stunned, “what are we doing in Cuba, what’s that Guantanamo?” They do not know any history about Cuba WANTING to give Guantanamo to the US (in gratitude for liberation from the Spanish) but the US declined that and said we would just pay rent for it and so we did over many years and continued to do so after the Castro takeover.
I worried that perhaps President Clinton would take advantage of the ignorance of Americans about the history and decide to do a Jimmy Carter kind of thing (maybe Jimmy Carter would have done it if he had a second term).
From time to time over the years, “why do we have Gitmo” – why do we have Guantanamo Bay Naval Base –
it’s ignorance, like “why do we have the Electoral College – we should get rid of it”.
Discordant Note: the US govt heavily funds many of the NGO’s operating in Panama. Maybe we could stop shooting ourselves in our own feet?
“………..Maybe we could stop shooting ourselves in our own feet?”
That’s not blood that’s flowing, it’s cash money. Can’t interrupt that, now, can we………
“losing blood AND treasure”
Perhaps both losses are ultimately FATAL….
Although one ultimately fatal type of loss may be far more insidious than the other?
Thinking about the famous warning meme of frogs in a pot of water that slooowly gets hot enough to boil so the frogs don’t become alarmed enough to hop out before they’re dead.
Its a false analogy, and current events are bearing it out; you can NOT cook a pot of frogs that way, unless you introduce FORCE.
Without a lid, locked down the frogs will jump out, long before the water gets hot enough to cook their brains.
“the US government funds”
Thankfully, in 28:more days, these present tense verbs, describing what “the US government” IS doing will change to the past tense.
For instance, “funds” will become funded.
#PsyWarfareAwareness. #VerbTenseMatters.
God bless PDJT and God bless America.
If only the second/third-worse President in our nation’s history – President Carter – had not lusted after Globalist favor and sign that treaty that gave the Panama Canal away. His lust to curry favor with the elite, while destroying the US position everywhere, knew no bounds.
If the canal had remained in US hands, this would be a non-issue at this moment. Today’s reality, though, shows that even seemingly “innocent” moves 45 years ago contributed to the economic fiasco we are currently to deal with.
Carter was a founder of the Trilateral Commission along with Brzezinkski and David Rockefeller. Nothing innocent about that.
TBH, if Carter hadn’t given it away it would still be under Chinese control the same as our domestic ports.
TBH you this is a speculative GUESS about what would have happened IF other things hadn’t actually happened.
Since we’re in a very real, work wide, win or die war right NOW, thankfully PDJT and his allies are steadfastly Real World focused.
I think Jimmy Carter REALLY wanted to get the Nobel Prize to salve his bruised ego.
Carters “Panama Canal give away” == a “give away” orchestrated by NWO Globalist BANKERS?
NWO Rockefeller “Mafia’s” role?
Panama Papers related?
Ireland, Switzerland and Australia (banks) co opted and now connected?
Thankfully, PDJT has known about this for years and has been using that knowledge when making his world wide Save America war plans to defeat the NWO and regain our sovereignty….
and everyone else’s too.
#GandalfTrump
Old joke: Jimmy Carter dies and goes to Heaven. Teddy Roosevelt comes to greet him. “I always meet with Presidents to catch up on the latest news. So tell me, Jimmy, what were the big events of your presidency?”
Jimmy says, “Well, probably the biggest event was there was a revolution in Iran, led by a radical Muslim cleric to overthrow the Shah, our staunch ally.”
Teddy snorts, “I’m sure you sent him the support he needed to put those rascals down!”
“No,” Jimmy replies, “we didn’t. We stood by and did nothing.”
Teddy is gobsmacked. “What else happened?”
“Well, after the Shah was deposed the revolutionaries stormed the US embassy in Tehran, and took over 400 Americans hostage.”
Teddy is outraged. “Tell me you sent in the Marines, kicked their ass out of our embassy and freed the hostages!”
“No,” Jimmy said, “I didn’t send in Marines, I negotiated with the hostage takers for over a year. The hostages were finally released when my successor took the oath of office.”
Teddy is distraught. “Good Lord, man! You’re the weakest president I’ve ever met! Next thing, you’re going to tell me you gave away the Panama Canal!”
Panama and Greenland
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/12/trump-revives-push-acquire-greenland-calls-it-absolute/
Interesting. He must know what is under all of that Ice and rocks.
Bottomline, President DJT would not have started the conversation without first knowing what remedies he has if he received pushback. I’m betting that this will work out well for the U.S.
Just like Seward’s icebox.
Yeah, the US owns the world and everyone else is just a renter.
So no more US Aid to poverty stricken sH*t hole countries. Time to pay the rent.
No Foreign Aid to Any Country.
No Military aid to Any Foreign Country.
🇺🇸 🇺🇸 America First 🇺🇸🇺🇸
Just take it back. We built the damn thing and Carter just gave it away. It’s ours. To hell with Mulino and Panama.
The nearly dead-Carter’s hand of destruction, got to reach back BEFORE the grave … to remind us how feckless he was with the Panama Canal, and his Presidency … of course Iran has been a 40+yr constant reminder of that fact, as well !!!
Since Carter is still alive, we should put a microphone in front of him and have him mumble the following, “President Mulino, regarding the sale of the Panama Canal, just kidding!!
The United States helped Panama win its independence from Colombia in 1903.
Why would we do that?
The United States wanted the land the French had tried to build a canal on, but failed to do. So we helped Panama gain their independence.
Interesting timing that Panama ceded the canal land to the U.S. in 1903; almost immediately upon winning their independence.
Apparently many Panamanians were not happy with their government for winning their independence from one country, only to hand it over to another country.
The Panamanian people were not happy about the U.S.’s ownership of the canal from day 1.
The U.S. purchased all the land that in anyway touches the canal, so “we” own it, but the people, and not the government, have been fighting against U.S. ownership since before the canal was built.
Hans Mahncke
@HansMahncke
Trump’s Panama Canal statement is primarily about one thing: China. Having been gifted the canal by Jimmy Carter, Panama foolishly decided that it would be a good idea to not only become the first country in Latin America to join China’s Belt and Road scheme (which, among other things, uses coercion against vulnerable countries to weaponize trade, trade routes and supply chains), but also to allow China to get heavily involved in critical infrastructure projects in and around the canal.
https://x.com/HansMahncke/status/1870644165911912723
Maybe Trump is actually HELPING Mulino to give some pushback to the CCP-PRC?
Very possible; sort of how he helped North Korea loosen China’s control.
Your comment shows deep thinking on your part. Most people take every word of Trump’s literally, not realizing that in such circumstances, every word is merely part of his negotiation tactics to ultimately get everything he wants. A great deal maker always starts out demanding more than is wanted in order to have something to ‘give up’ as part of the final deal.
Fwiw….
Good chess players always keep the “I-Win” end goal, the final “Check Mate” move in mind when decir mg which move to make or not make.
Poor chess players don’t. Instead they’re one chess move at a time reactives.
Some truly great chess players have claimed the ability to think 15 moves in advance ie the ability to mentally compute every possible move and counter move to any decision they make that far into the chess war.
Chess games are obviously more predictable, and less challenging, than negotiation “games” despite some potentially useful similarities.
Perhaps that’s one reason why genius DJT has always preferred real world negotiation competitiins?
President Trump said that the motto for this term is “Promises Made, Promises Kept.”
It’s looking like his secondary motto is shaping up to be “Corruption Exposed, Corruption Cleaned Up.” Mr. Panama better wise up and get with the program.
Keep the wins coming Mr. President! Merry Christmas to all!!
Was Panama a country in 1903?
No, Panama was the Northern part of Columbia and Columbia rejected U.S. efforts to buy the land in the section needed to build the canal.
The revolt that occurred in the area of Northern Colombia, which is now Panama, to facilitate the building of the Panama Canal was called the Panamanian Revolution and took place on November 3, 1903, with the United States providing tacit support to the rebels in order to secure the land needed for the canal construction; essentially, the US backed the Panamanians in their secession from Colombia to gain control of the territory for the canal project.
Key points about the revolt:
US involvement:
President Theodore Roosevelt, eager to build the canal, essentially orchestrated the rebellion by providing political and military support to the Panamanian revolutionaries, effectively ensuring their success against Colombian forces.
Motivation:
The Panamanians sought independence from Colombia to facilitate the construction of the Panama Canal, which would bring economic benefits to the region.
Outcome:
Following the rebellion, Panama declared independence and quickly signed a treaty with the United States granting them the rights to build and operate the Panama Canal.
Yes, Teddy stole the land. Panama was born in sin and is still sinful (as are we all).
Now what? We can acknowledge the above, and still look out for our national interests. Trump appears to be doing that.
Panama has to tread lightly. We could give Panama back to Colombia, from whom we took it, and keep the Canal Zone.
President Donald Trump is a lynx who sees beyond us.
Yes!
Donald Trump is a special breed of cat!
Yes! We have noreaga!
We have noreaga today!
Mulino might be a nationalist but the President Trump can take him down with a fly swatter.
For those who speak Italian:
Mulino is just another run of the mill politician 🙂
Panama is helping the “migrants” illegally enter through USA’s southern border. I know. Because I have a nurse friend who retired and moved to Panama. She was a professor of nursing at Seattle University before retirement. She e-mailed me that in Panama they doctor ’em, clean ’em up, and send them on their way.
As we return to the Monroe Doctrine of “America for the Americans” let US be mindful we must leave Ukraine to the Europeans. Not our monkey.
Spot on!
Why not leave it to Russia?
To the River!
Deny the Sea!
Novorossiya will be Free!
Yup!
If our corrupt politicians paid more attention
to what is/has been, happening in our neck of the woods,
instead of playing in Russia and the ME Sandbox Potty🤷♀️
M
OK….. what’s about only democracy in the Levant we will leave too …US ???
See Maquis’ ditty below or above…
Panama did not exist as a country until the USA “assisted” its rebellion against Columbia in 1903.
“President Mulino is a conservative nationalist who won election seven months ago. Mulino did not like the implications of President Trump contemplating a renegotiation of the Panama Canal Treaty, with ownership and management given by the USA to Panama in 1999.”
The implication being that Panama is an American colony.
I don’t think that President Trump was suggesting a “renegotiation” of the treaty! LOL
He doesnt have to get on a plane like Obummer he simply tweets and these world leaders will visit the summer Whitehouse. MAL
Speaking of Panama’s history …
If not for the US, there would be no Panama. Instead, what is now Panama, would still be a backwater jungle province of Colombia.
We gifted to you your country, we gifted to you one of the greatest engineering feats in the history of the world and the least that Mr. Mulino could do would be to acknowledge our concerns about how this critical piece of strategic infrastructure is being managed and maintained.
If he’s not careful, Mr. Mulino may awaken one day to find Victoria Nuland camped out on his doorstep.
“Mr. Mulino may awaken one day to find Victoria Nuland camped out on his doorstep.”
Or worse, Samantha Power in his bed……………
No no..no what’s about current Surgeon General…
…or even worse, Samantha Power!
With President Trump, when he makes a statement, it is always necessary to first identify to whom the message is really directed. Top level international relations. President Mulino mistakenly thought the message was for him.
I would consider this the first signal to the world (and specifically looking at YOU, China) that President Trump intends to pursue a 21st Century version of the Monroe Doctrine.
I think you’re a bit confused about the Monroe Doctrine. Here it is and I don’t see where it applies to stealing the Panama Canal from Columbia
“The Monroe Doctrine is a foreign policy position of the United States that opposes European colonialism in the Western Hemisphere. It was articulated by President James Monroe in his annual address to Congress on December 2, 1823. The doctrine’s main concepts are:
Nor where it applies to China.
We need a President who trumps Monroe.
Becsuse at the time, China was a backward, FORTH world Country, that in no way could possibly threaten America, by colonising Central or South America.
The broader concept is the U.Z staking out all of N and S America as its sphere of influence, and wanting Europe,China, Iran, anf anybody eles tempted to set up shop in C/S America to,…NOT.
“Not negotiable”. Panama is a creation of the US.
It’s time to get the true story about the how the United States stole the Panama Canal from the true owner
“During Theodore Roosevelt’s Anglophile presidency, the United States demanded that Colombia sign a treaty turning the isthmus over as American property. Colombia refused. As with what happened in so much of the world during this time in service to Empire, Americans sent their warship transporting U.S. soldiers in 1903, ransacked towns and killed the popular local militia commander and declared themselves the owners of the newly created Panama, whom they had the arrogance to call an “independent” nation. A puppet government was quickly installed and Americans likely did not bat an eye, thinking they had “freed” subject people from barbarism in some distant land.”
Read the whole story here
https://cynthiachung.substack.com/p/how-panama-became-the-skynet-for
We need to be honest with ourselves
Start by acknowledging that no such canal existed to be stolen.
Anglophile???
Not sure what you’re getting at
Yes, Cynthia Chung the author of the article is Chinese.
Thanks for pointing out a new rabbit hole to explore. I find this one particulary intriguing. Now I know what I will be doing this evening [insert grin]. I’ve been watching Eric Weinstein interviews, but then came across someone who warned against his “true” intentions and agendas. This should be interesting.
Oh, and I could care less how we built it. It is 2024, and at this point in time, 47 is making it clear to the world that the canal is considedered a vital national security interest of the USA, so hands off. The message to Panama’s president was simple: FAFO.
https://cynthiachung.substack.com/p/like-a-phoenix-the-death-and-rebirth
The canal was built with American blood and treasure.
Oh, and we didn’t steal the canal. We separated the canal zone from Columbia [wink wink, nudge nudge]. Then WE built the canal. Construction had stalled when we took over and finished it. And in the end, we built it, it’s ours, we let the locals run it.
Does this concept apply somewhere in this conversation?
Jingoistic : extreme chauvinism or nationalism marked especially by a belligerent foreign policy
Proud jingoist here. The question is, why aren’t YOU? Peaceful statement of what our interests are and what we will do to anyone who interferes with them.
Depends on JD’s nationality and loyalties.
A great many pose American here but are anything but.
China is over taking the region – even up thru Mexico with the inland shipping/container ports of San Carlos having built the super highway up into North America.
Puppet Governments are obviously still in vogue.
I would tie this to the Darien Gap. We can be pretty sure that the President wants it sealed.
Indeed.
Especially since a massive highway is being built through it right now.
That a-hole carter gave it away. Treasonous behavior is lauded by the deep state.
It was probably a give away to China and China is rushing their warships to Panama to defend Panama’s sovereignty. I would not be surprised if this transformed into a gambit to transfer Taiwan to China so that the canal transfer back to America.
Kissinger was behind the canal giveaway, just as he was behind opening China and creating the WEF.
WEF is a suicide pact for the West on behalf of China.
Created and run by The City.
Raul better make room for the repatriation of all the trash they sent to our southern border the last 4 years.
Anyone who screws us over has to pay – BIGLY!
A man, a plan, a canal, Panama!. One of the great palindromes.
In all my days I have never, ever heard of Panama’s Martyr’s Day, January 9, 1964, and I’m good friends with two born and raised Panamanians who are now U.S. citizens.
Were American’s not told about what happened that day? Was the story buried on a back page? Did our government know that Panama was a tinder box in 1964 and that is why Carter signed the canal over to them in 1977? Since the U.S. helped Panama gain their independence from Colombia in 1903 did that mean the U.S. expected Panama to do whatever the U.S. wanted?
In 1903 the people of Panama were not happy that their government ceded control of land that would be used for the canal to the U.S.
Sounds like things have only gotten more heated since then.
Trump is going to be discovering in short order that one of the changes that’s happened in the world last four years is that China and Russia are no longer going to pay any attention to the Monroe Doctrine so long as the US keeps interfering in their parts of the world. Enough is enough, from their perspective, and so long as the US keeps thinking it can interfere with impunity in places like Ukraine and Xinjiang Province, home of the Uyghurs, they will keep ignoring the Monroe Doctrine.
The days of the US doing that for free, without resistance or payback in kind, are over. Trump obviously doesn’t understand this yet, nor, judging from the above comments, do most Americans. You will learn shortly, and if you think Russia or China are just going to lie back and allow the US to keep interfering in their affairs as you have in the past, y’all have another think coming.
You flatter yourself.
Trump is aware of this.
So why is he saying needlessly provocative and pointless things like this idiotic Panamanian statement and his other recent statement on buying Greenland? These are counter-productive on every measure and both positions if pursued in office will make it more not less difficult to make America great again, because everyone in the world except evidently Americans and Westerners, have had an utter gutsful of such arrogant behaviour from US POTUS’s and they’re not going to take it anymore. So if Trump thinks he’s being clever by playing bluster as a negotiating tactic, he’s dealing with a world fed up and frustrated and on a hair trigger to resist and tell America to go to hell. So if he really is aware of this state of play in the world as you say, why would he be making things more not less difficult for himself with pointless counter-productive unnecessary moves like this?
It surely isn’t because he’s ignant as you suggest.
Keep watching, your opining is not as easy to follow, or swallow, as you might wish.
You know him personally, do you? You know what advice he’s been getting on the above topics and out of that, which he believes and which he’s pretending to believe, do you?
If so then I defer to your greater understanding. If not, then like me, you’re operating with the same data I have: his actions, and your knowledge of the personalities from afar. On that basis, my thesis is as defendable as yours is, so we are both just going to have to wait for further developments before we can start drawing conclusions on who was right and who wasn’t with respect to all of this. Aren’t we.
You are assuming Maquis is operating from the same data points as you – His world of experience surely comes into play.
The Dollar$ is still king.
yes world very much changed past 4 yrs…but most our politicians treat Russia worse than before 1991…..
The same critics, and criticisms of his words now, were apoplectic at his words to Kim, calling him fat boy, and I have a bigger one,and it works.
They were wrong then, and I stringly suspect they are wrong now.
Whereas Trump has been right, about everything!
I understand the history, issues, and controversy surrounding the Panama Canal and the nation of Panama. I also know that PDJT is often very successful with his negotiating style. What I don’t understand is why pick this very public and seemingly unnecessary fight, and why now?
We hold all the cards. We have many forms of powerful leverage to get what we want without a public fight with Mulino.
Is this supposed to be a message to China or other countries in Central and South America?
I agree with you….
Why now?
Appears China has been busy in
Panama…. for the last 25 years!! !
🤷♀️💁♀️
Darien gap. Mulino was just voted in as President. The last guy went out with charges being levied against him. Mulino was his fill in the blank guy to take over the presidency.
Bribes, NGO’s, US State, China Belty road, etc etc all lead to bribery, chicanerymore bribery and Mulino’s inability to stop any of it.
Panama just got over its worst drought in many years. However, miraculously the canal made a whopping turn around and exceeded revenue not seen in past years… several articles have recently explained most of the above.
You can bet PDJT sent out this warning to Mulino to pick a side and clean things up quickly. Whatever your thoughts I am going with PDJT has a plan and we need to let Trump be Trump. Just spit balling. 😎🤷🏼♂️
Speak softly…….
In 10 years time, the Panama canal will be our southern border, and the Arctic Ocean will be our northern border.
Over the past year strikers and protestors have shut down one of the largest copper mines in the world in Panama over stories that in review bore no facts;
In Mali government officials have arrested the President and top geologists and engineers of a major mine operated by a Canadian company, demanding huge sums of money for their release.
The mining companies around the world are taking notice and re-evaluating the risks in mining in these third world nations.
The one thing both those nations, Panama and Mali have in common – China, their Belt and Road program that slithers in, makes huge loans to the governments, and then as repayment find China controlling the natural resources of those nations.
Good for President Trump to put Panama on notice.
These first 100 days of his 2nd term are going to be on fire!!!
Peanut president carter should never have sold the PC for a dollar… dumbest potus in history
The Noriega suite is probably available….
Art of the Deal coming up
This is no different that PDJT’s opening salvo with the current President of Mexico, her bellicose responce (in Spanish, and obviously for her peeps) followed by her promptly caving to PDJT’s demands.
PDJT is going to reintroduce the Monroe Doctrine, and get China’s CCP, Irans Revolutionary Guard, and the Cartels the hell out of Central and South America, and he is not going to say “Please”.
This is also like PDJT’s opening dialogue with Fat Boy Kim, that led to unprecedented cooperation.
My opinion here is threefold:
(1) “Not so fast.” Even though Jimmy Carter might have made an unwise decision, he did make it, and it has now lasted a long time. “Many infrastructure changes have occurred since then.” I think that the USA should now proceed cautiously. Without “braggadocio,” nor anything that even smells like it.
(2) There is another “engineering-feasible” canal route which leads through Guatemala. So far, this nation has not been able to attract much official interest in it. Perhaps, we should consider it now. (Of course, as an “international” engineering project … The Panama Canal is a physical bottleneck.)
(3) Mexico is also proposing a third alternative which involves the use of cargo trains. This also would be “a significant engineering accomplishment,” albeit of a completely different nature which would involve “port-like” operations at both ends.
I frankly do not consider it wise, nor at all necessary, to start “chest-thumping” for a reinstatement of “the Canal Zone.” Slow down! “Hold your fire!” The President of Panama has very legitimate points to make – and decades of experience in actually operating the Canal every day in modern times. Slow down!
If your actual negotiating-point simply concerns “transit fees and pricing [for the USA],” then you should confine your negotiations strictly to that. If your core negotiating objective is that “USA-flagged” vessels should receive priority of any kind, then you should plainly say so in your negotiations.
Remind me to never have you negotiate ANYTHING for me, Mike Robinson!
You start out demanding the World, so that you have things to bargain away.
And while you negotiate in good faith, yiu do NOT neccesarily “lay all your cards on the table”.
Strongly suggest you read both “Art of the Deal” and “Art of the Comeback”, so you’ll know WHO sent PDJT’s tax return to the NYT. hint, they will NEVER be prosecuted for it.
I respectfully acknowledge your objections, sir. However, I likewise-respectfully say that I do not truly understand any of it. (And, by the way, I own these books in hardcover.)
Jimmy Carter’s mistake(!) cannot now be erased, decades later. “That is not an option.”
You actually cannot wave your hand and “simply, erase” the perfectly-legitimate legal claims that would be posed by the countless nations who now use this route. Nor those of the Panimanians who have legitimately invested money to improve it. You simply cannot “erase” this past. Nor should you try.
But: “competition!” Alternate sea routes in other countries. Alternate alternatives in “over-land” transit. Does any interest yet remain in ideas that are so grand?
The Panamanian president is delusional if he thinks he’s got the upper hand.
Its not about HIM, its about Xi, and CHYNA
Jimmy Carter was such an impractical man. He used to kneel at Yassir Arafat’s tomb. Jerk. He should have never been president.
Let’s give up control of the Panama Canal….