The International Longshoremen’s Association (ILA) and the US Maritime Alliance (USMX) have until January 15 to agree on a new contract. This is the result of a temporary deal reached in October.
President Trump announced his support for the workers’ position following a meeting with Harold Daggett, the president of ILA, and Dennis Daggett, the union’s executive vice president.
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“I’ve studied automation and know just about everything there is to know about it. The amount of money saved is nowhere near the distress, hurt, and harm it causes for American Workers, in this case, our Longshoremen,” Trump said on Truth Social.
Notice how the media always present the verbiage of the dockworker’s employers as “employers’ group USMX,” without actually noting the employers’ group are the port owners, multinational shipping conglomerates and as a consequence, foreign countries.
In material fact, most critical ports in the USA are owned by foreign entities. As a result, the ILA are pushing back against the ideological, political and financial interests of mostly foreign entities (USMX).
On the demand side of the equation the ILA wants to eliminate the threat posed by automation. Many voices say this is a ridiculous demand; after all, when you combine artificial intelligence, automation, robotics and remote access capabilities, it is clearly predictable that a time will come when 80% of the ILA jobs can be replaced by remote controlled operational systems.
In China, many industrial ports are already fully automated and operated remotely by people using what look like gaming consols, robotics and computer screens.
US #Port Strike by 45,000 Dockworkers Is All but Certain to Begin at Midnight who doesn’t want automation. Meanwhile in China – pic.twitter.com/4C8p1eCT8H
— sceptical_panda (@sceptical_panda) October 1, 2024
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This brings me to the main point that most overlook.
In Asia and Europe, port automation is happening rapidly. However, in Asia and Europe they have rules and regulations against foreign ownership of their ports. In Europe, Asia and particularly China, ports are considered critical national security infrastructure by the politicians who represent the people. In the USA our politicians represent the multinational corporations and as a result we have sold the majority of our ports to Saudis, Qataris, Europeans and Chinese owners.
If Chinese ports are automated in China, they are operated by Chinese owners. If American ports are automated in the USA, they are operated by Chinese owners. It doesn’t take a genius to see the problem.
Fast forward to 2035, all of our critical ILA members have given up and gone to work for Wal Mart in the face of overwhelming opposition against them by a short-sighted American electorate. The children of the dockworkers are now addicted to prescription narcotics, and the docks are automated by German industrial machinery, facilitated by Chinese technology that was purchased by Chinese owners. The machinery is operated remotely by Chinese, Indian and Pakistani workers getting $5/hr.
After seamless integration, China decides to take New Zealand as the latest strategic notch in their Belt and Road initiative. Wait, wha… the American politicians shout, “this cannot stand.” But it does, because if the USA tries to make a move against it, the docks in the USA are brought to a halt by China.
Sound crazy?
‘Crazy’ was 9-years ago when CTH was warning about a weaponized FBI operating like the Russian FSB. ‘Crazy’ was our warning that a DC-based intelligence apparatus was conducting surveillance of a presidential nominee. ‘Crazy’ was our alarms ten years ago that various interests of the DoS and DHS were deep inside the mechanisms of social media, controlling the content of private conversations. THAT was then considered “crazy.”
What we are talking about now against the rise of artificial intelligence (AI), robotics and remote automation, is not crazy; it’s predictable reality if the efforts of the ILA fail.
Now do you see why I support them.
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We have a dragon rider who not only understands the stakes. He’s also smart enough to ride the dragon while wearing an invisible suit. That invisible suit is why we call him the “blue-collar billionaire.”
Just because Silicon Valley has shifted to replace wingtips with sneakers, doesn’t mean the outcome changes. And yeah, the Technocrats may keep using class warfare in the effort to make me hate Harold Daggett, while we pretend not to notice the designer labels on their T-shirt.
Perhaps the best compromise would be a two-issue dynamic:
♦ First, all foreign ownership, influence and control over USA ports must be eliminated.
♦ Second, 100% of all equipment, machinery, hardware and software, used in every aspect of the port automation process, must be manufactured inside the United States of America.
Put those two qualifiers into the port contract negotiations as expressed by ILA President Harold Daggett, and watch what happens.
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I trust very little when it comes to supercomputing and robots.
If Chinese ports are automated in China, they are operated by Chinese owners. If American ports are automated in the USA, they are operated by Chinese owners. It doesn’t take a genius to see the problem.
If American ports have been purchased by foreign corporations, just nationalize them as strategic assets
Also, nationalize those Uranium One holdings as a strategic energy and defense resource
Send the purchasers back to Hillary for a refund of their purchase price
“There’s a woman in upstate New York whom you can contact for reimbursement of your costs”
That’s just theft of private assets. Now, there should be restrictions on % of foreign ownership (and of course, China has ways of getting around that, too), BUT OUTRIGHT CONFISCATION/NATIONALIZING?? No thank you.
Such can be achieved without theft.
Divestment can be forced.
It damn well should be.
That’s just theft of private assets
Yeah, I know
I’m not making US policy, I’m just mouthing off
Sometimes ya just gotta say things because it feels good to say them
It’s catchy, you can dance to it … I give it an 8
American Ports. American Ships. American Port workers. American crews on those American Ships.
Oh yeah…
I want my Canal back!
Make America Shipping Great Again.
Waiting to be used to create an artificial reef off the coast of N Florida, clean up scheduled for Mobile, Ala ship works.
SAD
FAST AS The AIRCRAFT CARRIERS of the Day.
Partly because it had the same engines as the also-new Forrestal class aircraft carriers.
Top Speed = 38 knots (44 mph) using 242,000 HP
Thank the peanut farmer for that giveaway.
Clinton had the right to nix it before it took effect.
He declined.
What a concept! Our politicians have sold us out in too many ways. No more naps for the electorate.
Its called NATIONALISM for a reason.
The Nation-State, as a form of governance has existed for 1000’s of years, and its worked fairly well.
Why this periodic push for a centralised system, as every time its tried, it fails from the EU, to the USSR, to the Roman empire…?
The reason is they (the elite) make more money, or at the least that is what they believe. Money, money, money. 😁
Pardon Ms. Hit your flag by mistake. Please disregard. ❤️
are you aware of a specific group of rootless cosmopolitans, dedicated to nomadic parasitism, who preach in-group preference and borders for themselves but hate in-group preference and borders for everyone else?
Grow a spine and tell us what you are pussyfooting around about.
Read its previous comments, and it will be clear…that none of it makes sense.
I’ve been seeing a lot of indecipherable comments with vague allusions to “certain groups”, etc
Usually they boil down to:
“It’s the Jooz”
power is like a drug. there has always been a small segment of humanity that gets high from using government to abuse people that havent done anything wrong.
WE Dug it.
We built it.
Its OURS!
All of the ports in this country need to be taken back forcefully from foreign countries to.
Just set a hard deadline date (announced by Trump, so we know it will get their rapt attention), by which all foreign owned ports must to be sold back to the US at fair market prices.
That oughta do the trick.
God bless President Donald Trump.
I agree 100%. I’ll even add to that make everything American and tell the rest of the world to pound sand. Become self reliant and isolated. Probably not a popular position but at least we can focus on our own problems and interests. 🇺🇸🇺🇸
I’m in for some isolationism, while closing the borders for 10 years!
Needs to be at least 100 years.
And we can stop being pulled into all the places where the Bankers want us!!!
Exactly. Enough is enough is enough……😤 So infuriating.
Boy! You said it right there G4E!
EXACTLY!
He would have to declare a national emergency and then take them from their foreign owners.
I wonder if any of those foreign owners have sent any people across our Southern Border to “claim” asylum.
We should consider the precedent setting of such an action.
Internal enemies might use it against the electorate.
Send China the trillion dollar bill for COVID -19 interuption and then negotiate a swap of our ports for consideration for a reduction in the bill to $500 billion
Upon further consideration, maybe that trillion dollar bill should be increased to $36 trillion and the strategy being used on Russian assets be applied to Chinese owned assets and land in the USA.
Not to mention the almost $2T that China owes us for unpaid loans we made to them back into the last century. Britain made China pay them back their loaned $$$, w/interest, under Maggie Thatcher. We weren’t that smart.
US Constitution, Article I, Section 8: “The Congress shall have Power To… exercise like Authority over all Places
purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines,
Arsenals, dock-Yards and other needful Buildings.”
they better have a close look at Picatinny
Foreign ownership means undetectable security breaches
Ten people can live, with a stove and porta potty in a half size container. If they are on the top row and spaced a bit, a crew member can open the door for ventilation for most of the trip from China to a western port. Close up during approach and off loading, then grab their little black backpacks and exit at 0300 and be gone into the USA. Been done, I had a Customs friend back a few years tell me of how many they caught on one ship. 🙁
lot of operators also.
Tangentially related is how (or if) we can deal with an authoritarian government that uses AI. Can David Sacks make progress on this?
https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1867279374900506981
USA! USA! USA!
Another excellent analysis by Sundance.
Pro-American workers and pro-American made………MAGA!
What a great article. Wonder what advice would he give to longshoremen….
“Hold On, I am coming!”
Imagine how easy it will be for the Chinese to ship massive loads of fentanyl, and any other contraband into ports on demand by Americans and automated by the Germans. Sounds like a win-win for China.
Because ILA workers have proven so adept at preventing the same?
There is some merit to this argument…but it elevates risk for everyone and may backfire.
Because the same corporate entities HQ’d in the US so many here distrust to the core will suddenly conform?
This whole dynamic will be an interesting one to follow.
Very likely they now ship it in using the exemption against inspection provided by belonging to CTPAT (Customs Trade Partnership Against Terrorism).
Agree to secure your supply chain, and your 40’ containers will not be touched by CBP.
How many importers belong to CTPAT? In 2015 over 12,000. Now? Who knows.
Who are the importers/exporters? Sorry, not allowed to know.
Sounds rather…Deep State, no?
I say first offense, a heavy fine to the shipping line and owners.
Second offense, 3- or 5-year ban.
How about a 20- to 50-year ban for starters?
I remember a story from the West Coast strike a few years back.
A ship would arrive with an electronic copy of what was on the ship. The union would then hand jam the contents into their system , taking hours of union labor.
The union said automation was taking union jobs. I spent years working in union shops. The story never changes it appears…
I witnessed workers in Northern California purposefully dragging their heels to lengthen an offload.
I would love to see true cost-savings analysis of any/all computerized operations. As a new Navy seaman, I began working with computers back in the late ’60s. After my discharge, I was a computer operator, and then a computer programmer. I have worked on multi-million dollar projects with some of the finest companies in the world; Arthur Andersen, back in the day, Deloitte-Touche, Touche-Ross, Ross Perot’s EDS, etc.
So once a system is implemented, then there are computer support services that must be maintained, upgrades, and the like. Initially, we maintained our manual processes as “backup” in case the system went “down”, etc.
I would like to know if anyone has ever completed a study of the cost in hardware, software and manpower, over a multi-year period (at the 5 year mark, the 10 year mark and the 20 year mark) of how much money has been spent and the ongoing maintenance costs.
I am willing to bet ‘the Juice Ain’t Worth the Squeeze’ in the long haul
Oh, and another note to my original post –
A manual system has no worries about being “hacked”, personal information stolen, etc.
A list of advantages of pure manual operations would be very interesting to compile. i agree there are some business processes that can benefit from degrees of automation, but I would love to see a professional analysis of where automation is best used, and where manual operations are the best.
I have now gone back to “old school” – I use cash and get a clerk to check my goods out and bag them, I pay for most things with cash or a check, etc.
I think we, as a nation, would be better off if we rolled much of the computer systems back and out of our lives. Just sayin’
Bingo, JB
Nonsense.
Physical access is the top of the pyramid for computing resources compromise – as is the case for any “manual” machinery.
TOTALLY AGREE!!!
Have a friend, electrical engineer with a Masters. Always says, “Always have a manual backup!”
As a practicing CPA for 43 years, I could not agree with you more!
You can use a new automobile as a perfect example of what you are saying. Elactronics and computer control of every aspect intrduces much more unreliability than with simple mecanical systems. Hacking counts in that assesment.
And if it breaks, you can’t fix it, whereas in the old days, you could.
Computers are supposed to speed things up, and yet how do we all spend 90% of our time?
Waiting on the computer to load!
Unfortunately, with new techmologies, we see the ADVANTAGES right away, the downsides are only apparent after we have become ‘addicted’ to the new technology.
It depends upon which problem one is trying to solve.
Wellll…..I remember bringing my own computer aboard ships in the Navy in the early 80s (probably not mosh skosh but I did it anyway, an Apple IIe) before the multipliers of networked information and processing applications was even remotely understood. On one flag staff tour we temporarily relieved the JTF handling drug operations for a while. The OA was simplistic but using the various (unclassified) colored maritime reports I was able to arrive at some predictive analytics viz ship size, some other characteristics, and drug smuggling probability on a daily basis once I got the underlying model “kinda” useful.
There were others of us, staff weenies, who also ended up writing some code to assist planning for a particular missile that rationalized the planning process at the flag staff level – until funds were approved for formal Service development programs to corporatize the same capability.
It would have taken a lot longer to perform such planning using slide rules and finger counts – especially when the model evolved into multiple variables.
Apologies in advance, but anyone who even fantasizes that computerization doesn’t enhance analysis and performance timelines is smoking some serious ganga. The value function is not always calculated in dollars and cents.
Ownership is a separate matter from efficiency. Two very different ideas are being conflated in all these responses.
On an even more detached plane from that in play on this thread, there are many like me who have run through the grist mill of truly crappy American made products – my experiences with American manufactured refrigerators and other appliances have been abysmal with some very big companies. Yes, bring manufacturing back to onshore. But don’t delude yourselves. Folks like me will will pay a higher price for American products. But if the quality sucks, as it has many times in the past, be prepared for a very forceful pushback.
I respect your experience and thought process. But in many areas – especially national security – the problem space is broader than “lowest cost”.
This …in spades.
It’s also the deliberate dumbing down of our indoctrination, I mean education system!
Also, if I’m not mistaken, didn’t we supposedly go to the moon using only slide rules?
Personally, I think computers can be a great tool if used WISELY.
But don’t use them so much that your brain turns to mush!
Thank heaven, literally, for home schooling!
Am I really the first commenter at this point to note what an even greater idea it would be, in the following statement to change “ports” to “vital infrastructure”, such as electrical systems, water systems, but most of all, elections???
“♦ First, all foreign ownership, influence and control over USA ports must be eliminated.
“♦ Second, 100% of all equipment, machinery, hardware and software, used in every aspect of the port automation process, must be manufactured inside the United States of America.”
Because the port problem is nothing compared to the problem that our elections are being run on hardware made in China, with Serbian developers working on software based on Smartmatic, which was a company incorporated in Delaware by Venezuelans who made the original software at the request of Hugo Chavez, so he wouldn’t have to ever lose another election.
And in-person, manual counting methods in fact are such a huge cost savings over election machines that the machines should be prohibited on grounds of fraud, waste, and abuse, even without the slight detail of being about as American-owned as our ports. For more details see https://stolenelectionsfacts.com/ (the best out of a whole lot of other sources I can point to if anyone is interested.)
I keep thinking union boss Harold Daggett is really Dagny Taggert.
But who is John Galt?
Could be Nathaniel Taggart. Might want to ask Hedy!
Daggett is, at core, a Marxist thug …about as far from Rand’s Dagney Taggert as you can get.
Research him if you think otherwise.
Politics often makes strange bedfellows …and this is a strange one.
Trump needs the ports to be Americanized …not ‘nationalized’. Any MAGA should puke and reach for their weapons at the mere mention of nationalization. Trump is looking to downsize government size and authority, not expand both.
He also needs to prepare the way for the current highly paid and unionized manual labor force to become obsolete without becoming proles on the government welfare lists. Else MAGA will fail.
The American laborer is facing the automation of far more labor-intensive jobs in the next decade than in the entire past century combined.
The current ILEU standoff can’t be allowed to succeed on the terms offered by either side.
So, Trump is looking for a deal that:
1) Makes the ports American owned again.
2) Helps automate and modernize the now American owned and operated ports.
3) Gives the individual ILEU members sufficient compensation from the increased efficiencies of automation by the new American owners such that former ILEU members can maintain their current lifestyles without any government assistance.
The new American port owners get their modernization and automation but must put a substantial portion of the derivative profit increase into some sort of trust fund or part ownership or buyout program that the now excess ILEU members are agreeable with.
This is a normal Trump deal. He’s not taking the ILEU’s side. Trump’s using the ILEU to compel the current port owners to give him 1/2/3 above. MAGA.
And Elon Musk, as imperfect as he is, may well be as close as we will ever see …or need …to Rand’s John Galt.
Nicely done!
Trump is doing the right thing, politically. But it won’t stop automation. he knows the truth just as well as the rest of us. Automation is coming.
Did you read the article?
Its not about preventing automation per se, its really about the ownership OF the ports.
Boy howdy!
Automation is coming?
It’s been here for decades….maybe centuries if one thinks about how machinery/technology is substituted for labor in production processes throughout the course of history.
Otherwise I agree with your core point.
While I do back Trumps position and SD expose, it is a no lose position for Trump.
For all who care about humanity, we MUST support them.
Globalists (think WEF) have been waxing lyrical, bordering on orgasmic, about how there will be no need for so many people. And to that end, they have been working assiduously towards that goal.
First (and continuously) the bioweapons, now AI, long in the works.
This automation is another facet of the evilwhich, for those with eyes to see, has shown itself…out finally from its hiding place and shedding all pretence that it is something benign. Progress, doncha know…but in reality a frontline battle against those who will not be deterred from their desire to rule over all.
First the ports, then everything else.
I do believe all of it is part and parcel of the spiritual war raging all around us.
Crazy (as Sundance says)?
From where I am sitting, I don’t think so.
Or put another way, lest anyone believe AI will be limited to certain industries only…
First they came for the dockworkers…
(with apologies to Reverend Martin Niemöller)
A great and appropriate appropriation of the Reverands quote, B.J.
Farmworkers are right behind, and fast food restaurant workers, ..eventually brick and mortar stores ofcall kinds,…I don’t know WHERE itvends, but I haveca pretty good idea of WHEN,…..
“In the year 2525,…if man is still alive,….if woman can survive they may find,….”
I’d forgotten that song, dutch.
AI being promoted as “freeing” for the “utopia” planned for us.
Many, most perhaps, will believe it.
Back to the family farms, I hope and pray!
Those treepers who have kept up with the whole belt and road initiative of china know full well the chinese mode of operation is to offer countries capital to upgrade ports to the latest technology and then import their own citizens into that country to construct, operate and maintain the facility with absolutely no local financial benefit while also making sure the country can not pay back the loan and enters into default. At that point, the port becomes the soveriegn entity of the chinese and the entire import supply chain is now controlled by a foreign power. The long term sustainability and independence of the USA is dependent on reversing these kind of bone headed decisions with the implementation of insurmountable obstacles to changing the new paradigm once implemented.
It’s a good point.
But it doesn’t apply to the US. We have the capital and expertise to supplant a foreign owned port at any time. It may take time – but resources are not a constraint as they are in some country China wants to exploit after we finished doing the same.
It’s the way China has operated in Africa for decades.
Betsy, TOTALLY AGREE!!!
Economic security is national security
And port security, like border security, is essential in order to remain a nation.
WE have to be able to control who and what comes into and goes out of our country, or we are not a country.
Some self interested dignity would be nice too.
Years ago the longshoreman fought containerized freight, and they demanded that shipments continue to be breakbulk/palletized.
But this archaic method could not keep pace with the volume, and was pointlessly labor intensive. They struck, but to no avail. They did, however, win a lot of concessions.
They longshoremen are on borrowed time for automation, mostly because automation does not take continual breaks, get drunk/high, walk off the job for minor disputes (or other people’s disputes), and does not support Mumia or other violent radicals.
But automation can be used to control a Country by the foreign owner of the port 😉
There’s a fix for that.
Nationalize the ports, undo the treason of the short-sighted fools that sell out to Globalists at every turn.
100%! I am really shocked that our ports were ever allowed to sold to foreigners!
I’m not. Corruption.
Quite possible. Or they can just control the unions.
In any case, port automation is inevitable.
Not only control a country, but also control the priority of loading/unloading, which if used as a weapon could quite literally drive non-chinese companies out of business. As Sundance likes to reference often, the marketplace for multi-nationals is as far away from free market as one can imagine. Having worked for a multi-national with one of the highest lobbying budget on K-street, market share is maintained and expanded through legislation specifying the company’s product by name right into the national wire and cable codes and regulations.
Elon Musk could buy the ports. So could all of the big tech oligarchs.
First, especially since his wealth doubled, he should buy MSNBC and create a real competitor to Fox News, CNN, and Legacy Media.
Why bother? Just let them all die.
YES!!!!
Thank you, President Trump!
Whatever the companies save in automation, taxpayers must pick up in the form of services for the displaced employees and their families.
It is simple. Automation is modern-day NAFTA. Global businesses will do anything for slave labor. Even program a robot.
Then again, people must learn to adapt. With the advent of tech and streamlining, 40+ years in the same profession is highly unlikely. People need skills for good times and bad.
Just due to necessity, I’ve had to change skills at least three times. You’re not guaranteed to get the same pay from antiquated skills forever.
The real argument should be the foreign ownership part of the equation. If that isn’t emphasized in the argument then you have most of the public thinking that this is about longshoremen simply wanting a raise rather than our political class selling out our national security. Also, let’s be honest. If there were no foreign ownership of our ports, there would be no high praise of Trump being a man of the people. Everyone, and I mean everyone including him would be arguing for automation of our ports.
Yes. It was insane to give another country control of our ports.
Get rid of that, and there’d be people who would change their minds about this.
Exactly.
“The amount of money saved is nowhere near the distress, hurt, and harm it causes for American Workers.”
This goes for every industry.
And we’re looking at YOU, Wall Street. No, your profits DO NOT come before the lives of people.
And it seems you need to be TAUGHT that lesson, you disgustingly greedy ghouls.
And a special FU to Gordon Gehko and all the “Greed is good” airheads.
We need port automation -though not run by the Chinese. Being held hostage to any union is intolerable, and the longshoremen’s unions have a long history of left wing radicalism.
China has a 99 year lease on the port of Darwin, Northern Australia, where US navy ships and submarines dock.
Longshoremen are about the most overpaid people on the planet.
If they ever are replaced with automation, it will be their own doing.
Perhaps “transparent” should be applied to our own Congress, who EXPLICITLY voted on legislation permitting the sale of every US port to foreign entities. Of course, one could expect to see MASSIVE sums of lobbyist money changing hands at the DC restaurants! PS: A lot of this took place in 2021 with the assistance of our own Treasurey Secretary for CANADIAN money to buy up 33 ports. A recent complaint has goods going to Canadian ports first, then shipped to their US ports. Now, there is some good job protection! A lot of WHO LET THIS HAPPEN is still in power in Washington DC!
Grew up in Baltimore with Sparrow Point (Bethlehem Steel) and the Baltimore Harbor ( The furthest west port on the East Coast. They both supported middle class families for years.
Steve Bannon had, IMHO, an EPIC rant on WarRoom today, about how the Democrats lost the working class votes…and are thus completely out of touch with pretty much every hard working, law abiding family in America, ESPECIALLY those who work blue collar jobs and are heartily sick and tired of being talked down to and seeing their futures destroyed!
https://rumble.com/v5yywqe-bannon-g-block.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
WORKERS WIN!
cross posted at https://freedomaustralia.freeforums.net/thread/6475/president-supports-dockworker-position-automat
I am and will always be a proud member of the Luddite Alliance. Long live Ned Ludd.
Look at airports where immigration and customs agents work. Can anyone name a single private US airport where US immigration and customs officers work? Why are equivalent seaports different?
There are three types of airports where CBP work:
International And no, not all airports that use the word “international” are actually (by regulation) international airports. Miami is. Anchorage too. But not SFO, LAX, etc. these are “landing rights” airports. The third are “user fee” airports. Could these be foreign owned? Possible.
However, when discussing drug/human smuggling the problem is 99% Deep State, 1% China et al.
and btw, CBP is stationed at pre clearance airports at various foreign airports, mostly in Canada.
True. Also Abu Dhabi, Ireland and a few others.
As far as efficiency, our ports allegedly lag behind many other nations.
I’m told a trucker can enter a new, fully automated terminal in Long Beach / Los Angeles, and be in and out in 30 minutes. Truck scanned, driver scanned, container loaded onto the truck, and gone.
Oakland is often a nightmare, it sometimes takes three hours or more just to enter the port. Port not open 24 hours, workers have union meeting 2x month? Mondays after a Raiders or 49ers game – slow; same for Tuesday after Monday night football. Older workers tell new workers to slow it down. Oakland also not tied into the rail system, which is nearby. Complain about the system, they can boot you for 30 days, no recourse, no port access.
There is also a monopoly on chassis, which some say are in short supply (others say games are being played). So you can have a driver, container, booking, inspector, but no chassis… which cancels everything. Or send ten loads to a docked ship, the ship departs early, and your ten chassis are locked up for weeks, and you can’t find chassis on the free market (grey fleet?).
San Francisco shut down their one remaining dock, and Stockton is too shallow for large ships. So how do Central Valley products get exported efficiently?
I believe SF pier 96 is the last one operating that can handle containers. I think pier 80 (cranes) stopped in the 90s, not sure now. Piers are in bad shape, and no rail connection. Pier 54 handled break bulk. Used to be a lot of coffee unladed there. It was falling apart 30 years ago.
Port of Oakland is f’ed up because Oakland is f’ed up. Also 14 (?) unions on the waterfront, who all have to be dealt with. Like all large US ports, no single entity is in charge. Truly a cluster.
Stockton does not have cranes, I am pretty sure. They get bulk carriers (eg ammonia).
Not sure if this is relevant to look into. Seems to be intertwined with carbon footprints and ecosystem on the automation website. The port’s main website is an extensive one to navigate concerning everything to do with the port and other ports of entry since established. Early start of the world’s largest port and automation – legislation/national security – land entries/transportation – roads/rail/airports/military/cyber-security, etc. Huge task with all kinds of regulations/shipowners/corporations/legislative bodies/airport/workers/entering and leaving/port operations/permits required.
Question is how much and where foreign entities ‘control’ a nationally-owned international port given there are many multi-national/international corporations involved.?
The automation page. Homepage for port also accessible from here.
https://www.singaporepsa.com/2022/09/01/psa-singapore-opens-tuas-port-a-focal-point-of-the-wider-tuas-ecosystem/
I hope all the people that were arguing with us back then about this issue are finally ready to eat crow.
Every, single, issue that Sundance pointed out in his initial article about has been clearly laid out by Trump. I said it initially, ignore the president of the Longshoreman’s behavior and look at the big picture. Which is the ownership of our ports by foreign entities. And those foreign entities NOW want to automate OUR ports. In our backyard. To the detriment of our boys and gals who work there. Automation of some sort is an inevitability, but then to have it being done in such a way as this, was always bound for trouble.
Good on Trump.
Put America First. End Serfdom to Foreigners.
Energy Independence is nothing without Manufacturing Independence and Industry Independence and Port Independence.
Honestly, it’s amazing that we even still have a country at this point with how these parasite politicians have literally sold us out in so many critical areas of our independence. Ports, farm land, medicine to name just a few. Traitors!!
That’s an insult to animal parasites!
It’s never was your canal, and I’m sure Russia would like Alaska back. It’s like- what’s our oil doing under your soil, but ya I agree, American workers, American owned and operated. America… kick ass!
“In the USA our politicians represent the multinational corporations and as a result we have sold the majority of our ports to Saudis, Qataris, Europeans and Chinese owners.” For the enrichment of said politicians. Right, Nimarata Randhawa Haley?
We refuse….REFUSE…to use any and all automated checkouts in Wallsmart Casa Depot or anywhere! NOPE!!
CUT THE CORD
Gracias Dios
Sal with the reality check
“We all can’t be poets”
This is all part of destroying the American middle class, I am not a big fan of unions but on this one I agree with President Trump.
In the USA our politicians represent the multinational corporations and as a result we have sold the majority of our ports to Saudis, Qataris, Europeans and Chinese owners.
Which “We the people” should have known about before it was allowed to happen.
I may be reading too much into PDJT’s statement, but sounds like a warning shot.
I’m sure he’s saying work with them or I’ll invoke “the ports are of vital importance to our national security” and force they sale to an American company.
Sure be nice if he’s leading Americans to recognize the importance of port ownership and control.
He’s a clever cat.
“Two types of ports exist in the United States today: operational ports and landlord ports.
Operational ports follow a more traditional model in which a state or local government-run port authority owns the port infrastructure and is in charge of all elements of the port including full operation of the terminals and port related services. Some smaller auxiliary tasks can be done by a private entity, such as a labor management company hiring dockworkers to lift cargo, but for the most part the port and its terminal functions are publicly operated. Examples of this include the Ports of Houston, Savannah, and Charleston.
Landlord ports, on the other hand, have become increasingly common over the last 40 years. In this model, the public governing agency (typically the port authority) owns the land and basic infrastructure of the port itself, and leases out this property to different private operators. These private companies maintain their own buildings and cargo, handle equipment, and usually pair with the public governing agency for major infrastructure improvements. These cooperative agreements between the public owner and private operator often resemble public-private partnerships (P3s). Examples of this include the Port of Los Angeles and Long Beach in California and the Port of Newark in New Jersey.”
https://bipartisanpolicy.org/blog/a-deep-dive-on-americas-ports/
FIRE SYNDROME
Technology, like fire, is a good servant and a bad master.
Quite apart from foreign control is the issue of NO control. Smart systems need only develop, or be given by terrorists, emotions, and it is over for the human race. The robot rebellion will make Spartacus look like a picnic in the park.
Sounds like a good two-point start!
What’s going on with Shipping
Perhaps a good starting point is to ask how that ownership came about in the first place.
Should be 100% totally eliminated.
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