Mike Benz is one of the key voices who explains the U.S. industrial censorship complex, and the Intelligence Community interfaces therein. Benz background knowledge of how the foreign and domestic censorship system was put into place is exceptional.
In this interview, Joe Rogan asks a few pertinent questions, but the majority of the discussion is Mike Benz outlining the history of the U.S. government internet control mechanisms, and the various agencies and institutions created to carry it out. WATCH:
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Posted in 1st Amendment, Big Government, Big Tech, CIA, media bias, Medical Tyranny, Political correctness/cultural marxism, propaganda

My big grip with Rogan is that he has no idea how to conduct an interview. He has clearly never listened to Sean Hannity.
🤣🤣🤣
Sincere thanks for your insightful analysis of Rogans style
I’m sure he wishes he could be more like hannity
But
As highlander proved with cold hard facts
There can only be one
Black belt push mowing overtalker
Only one rank and file – Sean H.
What a description! He would shut up and let Marty talk, though.
“push mowing” is this a derogatory or a new zero term?
/Sarc
Noooooooo
No tags
Either practice sarc with no net
Or don’t practice at all
Tagging sarc is how trannies were created
Cet has a big grip….
Get your gripe on.
A rather Gripping discussion of gripping
About
Spelling Bee loosers . . .
Spelling Bee “loosers” hahaha
Playing fast and loose with words
we’re all losers this eve.
At least we tow the line.
Shouldn’t that Bee be Bea?
no picking on the grammer nazis
my oh my, I thought this was fun with words time
Yeah, I can never get enough of an interviewer asking, “Do you agree with me?”
Q: “Do you agree with me?”
A: “If I agree with you, we are both wrong! What would be the purpose of that?”
The charm of Rogan is that he speaks Bro to Bro.
I disagree. I very much enjoy his interviews.
Just saying
You mean Rogan doesn’t do most of the talking? Quaint.
I hope you are being facetious. Hannity is the worst interviewer ever as he rarely lets the interview subject talk. Hannity uses the format as platform for himself to blather on. Rogan is far superior; but then he can do it because the interview is long form as oppoised to a few minutes.
One of the (many) things I like about watching/reading The Last Refuge, are the lovely shining bald heads above.
They make me feel at home and so cosy – like my own.
Hannity….lollollol cant stand the guy..all together now mememe…me
I think the comment on Hannity was meant as tongue in cheek, Hannity doesn’t interview as much as he pontoficates to his guests his insights, then asks for confirmation. The only person that has gotten a word in edge wise has been Trump when Hannity has to shut up because Trump just keeps talking…..Benz has been everywhere you should pull up some of his interviews.
Hannity’s monochromatic talent just bought him $23million mini Mar-a -lago on manalapan.
“From the intracoastal to the sea.”
timing is everything…
…who?
I laughed till I cried. Thanks! I needed that…
Sure, but that’s because Rogan’s mother wasn’t a Nassau County Corrections Officer!
Try Jordan Peterson, the best interviewer bar none in my opinion. Hannity interjects his spin way to much in my opinion. Rogan is simply asking questions he’s interested in. Never leads the interview. I like it
He’s obviously doing something right or he wouldn’t be #1 in podcasters.
He’s giving the Left (Gen-whatever) an opportunity to learn much.
It’s not so much that they are ignorant, but that so much of what they know just isn’t true.
From Covid to Crossfire Hurricane, from the Steele Dossier to Hunter’s Laptop, from 1/6/21 to 7/13/24, there are salient facts that have been purposefully withheld by our legacy press.
Beginning in 2025, Kash, RFK Jr., Vivek, Tulsi, and Elon will finally get a broader platform to speak the unreported truth and set the truth free.
We will drink the truth from a fire hose.
Goes WAY back further than THAT!!!
Thanks for posting this. I was just listening to the interview, when I pulled up your site at the same time. I will continue to watch it here.
Thanks Sundance.
Been looking forward to hearing this, and will later.
Bonus! if as promised, less possibly of Joe Rogan, to be heard on the Rogan show – while Benz breaks things down. I think I’ll never be a Joe Rogan fan.
Benz has his own podcasts on X now, I think. Could also be on Rumble. He’s one of the most accessible guests to podcasters and has been on Bannon’s warroom several times.
You know what I want to see, Joe Rogan interviews ‘Sundance’… 🤯
If he does, I want Sundance wearing one of those ‘V for Vendetta’ Guy Fawkes masks. I never want to see Sundance’s face or know his personal details.
The deep state knows Sundance and I would like to know as well.
And either can’t stop him or finds him useful.
cross posted at https://freedomaustralia.freeforums.net/thread/6418/rogan-interviews-mike-benz-censorship
How is it that the Blob hasn’t silenced Mike Benz by now?
No, I know ain’t supposed to say it, but I can’t help but wonder,…this guy even as a site on the internet, how is this possible.?
I have thoughts on the matter.
Only part way in but great pod cast.
Info handlers attenuate concepts? Sort of a damage control limited hang out?
Half hour in –have to finish listening tomorrow. I spent 12 hours at school today and I am pooped.
I have listened to Benz multiple times. He sure can rattle off his facts & history.
I have wondered why he hasn’t been silenced.
If they come down like a hammer on someone praying in front of Planned Parenthood — why hasn’t Mike Benz been muzzled?
So, I fell asleep for about 3 hours. I got up and watched the whole podcast. (I have listened to Benz before.) I wanted to watch it all the way through.
He connects dots many of us are aware of.
However, the depth of data he cites –off the cuff –(whether he is ultimately a “good” guy or not) is amazing.
Okay. 12:30 here on the West Coast. I am going back to sleep. 😴 💤
Exactly. Benz is a “Handler” (what SD calls “Info Managers”, also a very apt term). Gain trust & support with 90% good info, then manipulate the followers with the critical 10% lies / agenda / desired outcome.
Another Tucker Carlson in the making.
Tucker is in Russia and interviewing Lavrov on the NATO instigated debacle in Ukraine. His interview will be viewed by 100 Million people who will hear, many for the first time, the Russian side of the story.
I don’t think Tucker is a limited hangout truth handler!
Either he knows too much, and is prepared to release it ALL, so they know they can’t silence him OR he is being ALLOWED to share just enough to expose to the lower level whilst keeping the BIG dogs fully protected?
Another truth manager.
Sure would like to read of them. As his presence has continually risen, and seemingly out State Dept relative obscurity to become, what? A limited hangout, with a long leash?
Curious thing Benz.
I’ve often wondered — he came out of nowhere, which is always a head-scratcher.
When will you share?
Hmmm.. for what it is worth I have only listened to the first 30 minutes and he has already mentioned Jan 6 style protests at least twice.
Cheers!
Yes, I noticed that as well. Does that mean the part where the J6 people were infiltrated by CIA/FBI/State Dept. Victoria Nuland crap? Or what? Or maybe the “populism” part — good thing or bad thing to him? Not really sure…
This is damaged control for Hunter Biden. Interesting how Hunter’s name popped up in random but then connected ways.
Unless he is actually a deep state agent, doing the old “limited hangout” to get us USED to the idea of the survellence state, as a first step to acceptance?
Thats all I can think, and I don’t want it to be so,…but squelching down my emotion, I think its what logic dictates….
Or perhaps he’s being used to foment angst and chaos and the evildoers hope to capitalize on the chaos to impose something even worse.
Where’s regitiger? He might know which way this guy flows.
Yes, hard to keep the signal to noise ratio acceptable. Would like to hear more from some of the Jedi/Yoga Treepers on here.
I don’t think I have felt so teased since that one night in a college town bar in 1982.
You should’ve gone back the next night…she showed up with her friends, asking if anyone had seen Keith… 🤪
I can probably guess what those thoughts are…
Well…. have a stab at it
I’l bet you do Sundance feel free to share when ever your ready we will be hanging on a branch waiting patiently
Be well God Bless
R.D.
I noticed he shifted towards Vivek in the primaries.
Mike Benz, I would say, is kind of on the spectrum. He is an encyclopedia of information who could talk for 24-36 hours non-stop with his depth of knowledge. It is incredulous to me the CIA/Government continues to allow him to speak out and write about these things. He must have one hell of a protective detail surrounding him.
I would love to have Sundance share his thoughts on Benz.
Please tell your thoughts
Please share them…
I would say he was given the blessing and backing of a certain faction.
“Truth manager”?
By allowing Benz to tell all – Is that a way to broadcast the new system? If no dissent then accepted compliance?
Thus this new system of one world imperial rule becomes legalized through acquiescence.
I know and he keeps going and going and going.
Interesting
in the old James Bond movies, the bad guy always monologues all his nefarious details because he thinks he’s got Bond for sure with no escape from certain doom. Bond always escapes and uses the information arrogantly provided to save the day.
Regardless of this person’s intentions or handlers, or lack thereof, the information is useful and we use it for our benefit with eyes wide open.
Wow Mike Benz is a fashionista – like his jacket – very streamlined look.
and those lovely bracelets
Hahahahahaaaaaaaa!!!
…and I’m going set the video-play speed down to about 85%…
🙂
First time I’ve had to put a video on slow play instead of fast play
Benz knows his s**t. Listen to him on jack Posobiec. He’s usually one at least once a month.
Rogan is a chameleon. He takes on the attributes and beliefs of the person he is interviewing. It’s called ‘mirroring’.
🎯
And?
That’s the way to keep people talking. I used to interview job candidates. My interviews were in-depth and rarely less than 90 minutes, and depending on my objectives, they often lasted 2 hours. Mirroring and paraphrasing were key ways that I could gain more information from the candidates.
Tucker does too. Trait of good interviewers .
And manipulators.
I got through 50 min – have to come back, too pissed off to process more of it. This is why Mike Benz knows so much about this – he’s so objective! I go all cave man and forget half of it.
Brilliant! Mike Benz! He is Team Trump.
I listened to 10 min and kept thinking I was re-listening to his last interview with Rogan. He’s great
Wow Wow – He is a master class in multi-dimensional foreign-domestic policy via the deep state.
Which is actually that our governmental organizations have usurped the power of the peoples to self rule through elective representation.
Listening to Mike Benz is like drinking from a fire hose. I was hoping Rogan would have him on. He has so much information that just can’t be covered in short form.
my eyes glaze over. watched about an hour and can take no more. how do “they” keep all those balls in the air at the same time? are the same 15 to 20 people on all the boards, ngo’s, whatever? what is the end game? destroy civilization? well, what then?
Exactly…what is the end game? Take over Europe, destroy the U.S., implant chips in all people, AI is everything, the world explodes and they are in their bunkers? We eat bugs (why?) — the whole thing about “our” democracy is about “their” institutions which = no voting, they decide everything. Sounds like a fun way to live!
This is fantastic and super informative interview of Mr. Benz by Mr. Rogan. This requires a public showing and attendance by the entire President Trump Cabinet.
How does Benz know what he knows?
I know!
Wow…someone doesn’t want me to listen to this interview. I keep having to relog in every 20 Seconds. Mike must have knowledge they don’t want out there.
I’ve listen to several long Rogan podcasts. He has interesting and informative guests, but he does annoy me. He’s not Hannity’s off the charts annoying, but he’s close.
I’m 26 minutes into the podcast and I owe Rogan an apology.
The other remarkable Rogan discussion is with Marc Andreessen. I think it’s about a week ago. They cover so many topics, from Marcus Aurelius to the sheer number of company founders that have been de-banked to the list of lies he made at HRC’s 2016 post-election-loss talk at Stanford…the discussion got salty at times, but hey…
I still haven’t finished it.
Sometimes I get annoyed listening to Rogan because he sounds stoned. But not with Trump, Vance, or Andreessen.
Agreed! It was very good. Very informative.
it is another one that youtube has removed !
Wow… it does come up on my YouTube.
I think I actually watched it on Spotify.
Here is the Spotify link – hopefully that is helpful. It is really worth listening to!
When Mr Benz talked about the CIA bragging about an assassination gun that would make it look like a standard heart attack – I thought of the hero, Andrew Breitbart.
I’ve wanted one for a long time.
Two laser beams.
Carrying an electrical charge.
When they connect with something wet, like a body, the circuit completes and zzzzap.
A long distance bug zapper, ideal for dealing with verminous pests.
deleted, wrong info
And Antonin Scalia, both suspiciously ill-timed heart attacks
Scalia was smothered with a pillow over his head at a Democrat owned hunting ranch in Texas. No autopsy.
They took control of his Mercedes and caused a crash that a normal MB was built to survive.
Agree, 100%. Mike Benz should be on everyone’s must watch/follow list. @mikebenzcyber on X
He is on mine
This is a terrific interview mainly because he lets Benz unload.
But Benz is wrong about something. The reason they flipped the censorship switch in 2016 wasn’t just because Trump won, but because of HOW he won.
Videos of Clinton unconscious being tossed into vans won that election.
And as much as Trey Gowdy is a company man, this video right here is what effectively ended her campaign. Yeah it was close, blah, blah, but this video was shared by grass roots MAGA at high volumes for weeks, and nothing could be done to stop it:
That clip, and the ability of MAGA to complete bypass the legacy media, is why we got almost a decade of full on censorship by the government.
And I am proud as hell to have been one of the MAGAs who presented facts regularly on social media through 2020-2022 calling out the COVID scams. I got banned so many times, it became a joke.
But after the 2016 election I predicted they would try to shut down Twitter and Fakebook, and that is exactly what they did.
To hell with these people shut the who damn thing down.
Agree, We the American people cannot gain momentum fast enough, education more of population fast enough.
Knowledge and awareness isnt enough, however, we have been coddled into expecting the government, the law enforcers, and courts to solve this problem.
We are at war, and the dismantling must be taking place by We the People with our own effective weapons. Expose the people invading our homes, privacy, brainwashing our children, enslaving us for our money, robbing us of our freedoms.
See eye Ay, Eff be eye, and Dee O jay need to be dismantled, every member interrogated, prosecuted when they lie and cover up, and relegated to manual labor for mere sustenance for the rest of their lives.
We’re going to have to get used to getting back into the open confrontation game with our enemies online.
Too many of us have retreated inside safe havens after years of bans and suspensions.
Keep it simple—just bankrupt the entire FED.
Love of money is the root of all evil!
and they counterfeit it by the trillions
This man is a machine of information.
What role will he play in the Trump adminstration?
He is much, much needed…
What we just watched was a Masters class on the history of the censorship complex. Very deep. Quite detailed. This video is worthy of revisiting to keep one frosty on all things deep state and censorship. I learned a ton, Sundance. Many thanks!
Completely agree with Joe’s final comment, one needs to listen to this two or three times to really absorb it.
The thing about Benz is he can elaborate on all of the alphabet and other agencies both domestically and internationally. Most of which I hope get shut down during this next term; all of which should be defunded.
I have never heard this before…
Never.
Benz describes a
concept pushed that the institutions are democracy. The institutions being government, academia, media, social media, big corporations and “big” law. How does this differ from fascism or communism?
Who is pushing the concept? One of the actors was obviously Obama but who or what entity is pushing this unconstitutional concept?
Where does your rights bestowed by our Creator have a place in the “institutional” or establishment
democracy?
In a strange twist democracy, in the mob rule aspect of it, is descriptive. Mob rule respects not the rights of the political minority or anything other than the focus of the mob at the moment. Our constitutional republic is ruled by the representative majority but the political minority’s rights are respected.
Someone (entity) wants our western culture devolved into a hedonistic and easily swayed mob.
Individual rights are diametrically opposed to the pushers of “the establishment is democracy concept” thus dictatorship is the end goal.
That’s what they mean by “our” democracy. The institutions run by Pelosi/McConnell-types everywhere — that’s what they mean.
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Just wait a minute. It’s entirely plausible that President Biden might have initially declared he wouldn’t pardon Hunter, only to later find himself, in good conscience, compelled to reconsider that position when faced with the gravity of the decision.
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Pardon Timeline: The pardon issued by President Joe Biden covers any offenses Hunter Biden might have committed or been involved in from January 1, 2014, to December 1, 2024. This broad timeframe has led to speculation and commentary regarding its purpose.
Burisma and the Prosecutor: There’s significant attention on Hunter Biden’s role at Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian energy company, where he served on the board starting in 2014. This period coincides with when then-Vice President Joe Biden was involved in Ukrainian policy, leading to allegations that his insistence on the firing of Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin was to protect Burisma from investigation. Critics argue this was an abuse of power, using U.S. financial aid as leverage. However, others, including some Ukrainian officials and anti-corruption activists, claim that Shokin was not actively pursuing Burisma and was instead criticized for not doing enough against corruption.
Allegations of Influence Peddling: There are allegations that the Biden family engaged in influence peddling, particularly with Hunter Biden’s international business dealings in Ukraine and China during Joe Biden’s vice presidency. These allegations suggest that Joe Biden’s pardon of Hunter was not just about the recent convictions but also aimed at preventing any future legal action related to these activities.
Public Reaction and Political Commentary: The pardon has drawn considerable criticism from various political figures and commentators, accusing Joe Biden of hypocrisy, protecting his son and potentially himself from legal scrutiny. There’s a narrative that this action undermines legal accountability and might set a precedent for future presidential pardons to cover a wide range of possible offenses over an extended period.
Defense and Justification: Supporters of the pardon argue that Hunter Biden might have been singled out due to his family name, suggesting that similar cases might not have been prosecuted with the same vigor if not for the political spotlight. This has led to debates about selective prosecution versus the need for equal application of the law.
The situation encapsulates complex legal, political, and ethical dimensions, with opinions varying widely across the political spectrum. While some see the pardon as an act of familial loyalty, others view it as an attempt to obscure or protect against deeper investigations into potential misconduct or influence peddling by the Biden family. However, without explicit legal findings or further investigation into these matters, these remain points of political contention rather than established facts.
Trevor, I must ask, what are you trying to say … as you trample all over this site’s restrictions and guidelines for posting ???
Sorry, personally, I don’t get the “gist” of your “point,” if any, and perhaps that is WHY such lengthy run-on posts are frowned upon? Just sayin.’
I can’t listen to anything any more without being an extremely Critical Thinker!
Thank you Sundance! Know you are loved.
Rumble version:
Joe Rogan Experience #2237 – Mike Benz
By The Joe Rogan Experience Podcast
3 Dec 2024
https://rumble.com/v5vpq1w-joe-rogan-experience-2237-mike-benz.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
YES !
GONE FROM youtube !
since it has been removed – it tells me it is GOOD !
its still there
I just went there again —- Just click and IT IS NOT THERE !
“Video unavailable
This content isn’t available.”
Funny, I just saw a video of Rogan explaining to Conan O’Brien about UFC. Something came up about Steven Segal movies and Rogan says he cringes and states he would rather do gay porn than those type movies. The audience laughed out loud. I can’t remember the year, but it is on the net.
Decided to do a quick search on Benz—-interesting info regarding his pseudonym and previous “views”…..(presented from a critical perspective)
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/michael-benz-rising-voice-conservative-criticism-online-censorship-rcna119213
A good read.
As someone who has listened to a lot of Mike’s interviews, I would say the first 2hr and 15mins were just a rehash of the almost overwhelming censorship industry. I think at the 2hr 16 mark he gets into the good stuff about why the state/dod/cia wanted to take control of Eurasia (tl;dr: $$$/resources/control over RU militarily).
As a follow-up, these two short interviews, which have been posted here at CTH a few times, are worth listening to:
https://nitter.poast.org/MikeBenzCyber/status/1708595015507665378
https://nitter.poast.org/MikeBenzCyber/status/1711411914629079463
Also posted a few times, in the last 2-3 minutes of this interview Mike comes out and says what he thinks President Trump’s chances are for 2024 and going forward (basically, don’t touch Eurasia).
I look forward to reading what Sundance has to say about Mike. Regardless, I hope President Trump put him someplace important on his team.
The Mike Benz interview highlights how the government is spending money to censor us. There are programs in University for instance,teaching disinformation techniques, how they justify it(hurting democracy), how they use it, and we are paying for it. That sponsorship should be easy to cut.
There are so many areas where DOGE could just stop funding the CIA propaganda machine that Benz tried to explain to Rogan! If Musk and Vivek get Benz on board they could dismantle a lot of bad stuff the CIA is doing .
It seems enormous to me but Benz has a handle on it.
The only question is, why is Benz allowed to talk about it.
Re: Benz – he gets some facts wrong, but he does know a lot of facts and can string them together well. Honestly, I haven’t heard anything new. I hope the video reaches those who did not know these things and I think it’s hopeful for the young people in this country to hear these things. There’s a lot of deprogramming that needs to occur in the younger generations in order for us to truly restore the Republic.
Listened to this entire video while working at the end Joe asks Mike how he sleeps at night he claims easy as this EVIL is how America became prosperous CIA messing around with small countries to Americas benefit and the middle class becoming possible.
Something is wrong with his view making me suspicious of the whole content. Basically claiming that doing evil is ok for the Money. I do not agree. Hard work good ideas. Surrounding yourself with good honest hard working folks. Maybe this is why I will work til death as they are very good at taking.
After spewing out 999 dirty deeds of the State and the CIA and sounding unaproving then stating the institutions themselves are somehow necessary to be well off is in itself EVIL.
I believe the Creator of the universe and the earth is able to know and understand what every individual has done in his life and will hold accountable every person to their deeds.
If anyone else hears this and finds the last 3 minutes very telling please respond. I am attempting to weed out the RATS. However im feeling a little outnumbered at this point. Not to be taken wrong Jesus will be back and im on his side.
I’m still listening to this video, and it crosses my mind: So the US is pissed that China is building roads and infrastructure in other countries, and THIS is what we’re doing???
Fascinating and horrifying.
As I listen to Benz describe this Octopus of corruption and money, I ask myself what kind of person is drawn to these agencies? If you come to the same conclusion that I have, closing down most of them completely is the only way forward. The people drawn to these are the Monacos and Nulands of the world.
Benz says censorship caused Trump to lose 2020. I’m sure it contributed in the sense that their cheating would have been harder otherwise, but the cheating was OBVIOUS when comparing that election to the one prior…. and then again to the one after. ALL of those BALLOTS that never happened again since 2020?
That’s the biggest part of it and I believe the thing that made the difference is Trump’s team of lawyers and election workers and observers. I think they decided to call it off when, on live stream millions upon millions of viewers SAW the police escorted trucks arriving at a counting location. That happened and then Pennsylvania was called for Trump before those trucks could be unloaded or to have whatever was inside COUNTED.
Mike Benz on Burisma – https://x.com/allanjwalker/status/1863943706656625147?s=61
Today I found a talk Benz gave at Hillsdale College on September 24, where he goes through a declassified draft of the Inauguration of Political Warfare memo that he says George Kennan wrote as the godfather of the CIA:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/09/24/mike_benz_the_history_of_the_intelligence_state.html
The handwritten changes by Kennan are edits that refine the wording, which suggests that it was written by Kennan’s staff. Kennan was out of the office from sometime in February until April 19 with travel to Japan and a duodenal ulcer, according to a volume of his autobiography that I happen to have.
Kennan, however, was the one to present a longer version of the memo in early May 1948:
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1945-50Intel/d269
There was antagonism between Kennan and the Director of Central Intelligence; the CIA had been established in 1947 but its purpose was still under construction:
https://journals.lib.unb.ca/index.php/JCS/article/view/2171/2571
George Kennan was at times a diplomat to the Soviet Union and strongly opposed expansion of NATO because the Soviet Union would perceive it as a threat.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GeZ81D8WAAAXToz?format=jpg&name=medium