[Now we must focus on the very important chairmanships of the senate committees that John Thune will decide.]
In the first ballot the results were: Thune 23, Cornyn 15, Scott 13.
Scott was removed and the Senators went to the second ballot between Thune and Cornyn.
As expected, the Scott coalition split 50/50. Thune picked up 6 votes from Scott’s group. Cornyn picked up 7 votes from Scott’s group.
Final Vote: John Thune 29, John Cornyn 24.
It was always going to be this way. Remember, the Senate is a silo -by design- isolated from influence of the American public.
If we want to change the dynamic, we must repeal the 17th amendment and return to the original constitutional construct: Senators appointed to represent the interests of each state, by State Legislature.
The Senate was designed to represent the interests of the State, not ‘the people’; that’s the job of the House of Representatives.
Machiavelli said, “It must be remembered that there is nothing more difficult to plan, more doubtful of success, nor more dangerous to manage than a new system. For the initiator has the enmity of all who would profit by the preservation of the old institution and merely lukewarm defenders in those who gain by the new ones.” A prescient and oft repeated quote that is pertinent to the situation.
When our founders created the system of government for our constitutional republic, they built in layers of protection from federal control over the lives of people in the states. Over time those protections have been eroded as the federal bureaucracy has seized power. One of the biggest changes that led to the creation of the permanent political class was the 17th amendment.
Our founders created a system where Senators were appointed by the state legislatures. In this original system the senate was bound by obligation to look out for the best interests of their specific states. Under the ‘advise and consent‘ rules of Senate confirmation for executive branch appointments, the intent was to ensure the presidential appointee -who would now carry out regulatory activity- would not undermine the independent position of the states.
The nucleus of corruption amid every element of the federal institutions of government is the United States Senate. The U.S. Senate, also known as the “upper chamber,” is the single most powerful elected element in modern federal government.
The Intelligence Branch is the most powerful branch of government. However, the U.S. Senate is the most powerful assembly of federally elected officials. We pretend the IC branch doesn’t exist; that’s part of our problem. At least we admit the Senate exists.
All other elected federal corruption is dependent on a corrupt and ineffective Senate. If we correct the problems with the Senate and reconnect the representation within the chamber to the state-level legislative bodies, we will then see immediate change. However, there would be ZERO institutional allies in this effort.
When the 17th amendment (direct voting for Senators) took the place of state appointments, the perspective of ‘advise and consent’ changed. The senate was now in the position of ensuring the presidential appointee did not undermine the power of the permanent bureaucracy, which is the root of power for the upper chamber.
Senate committees, Homeland Security, Judiciary, Intelligence, Armed Services, Foreign Relations, etc. now consists of members who carry an imbalanced level of power within government.
The senate now controls who will be in charge of executive branch agencies like the DOJ, DHS, FBI, CIA, ODNI, DoD, State Dept and NSA, from the position of their own power and control in Washington DC.
In essence, the 17th amendment flipped the intent of the constitution from protecting the individual states to protecting the federal government.
Almost every source of federal issue: ex. spending, intervention and foreign assistance, conflict with the states, burdensome regulation, surveillance and spying on American citizens, the two-tiered justice system and the erosion of liberty & individual rights (see COVID examples), can be sourced back to the problem created by the 17th amendment.
Because of the scale of their power, the Senate will not give up control easily; and every institution of society and government will actively work to block/stop We The People from taking back control of the upper chamber. Every entity from Wall Street to multinational corporations, big tech, banks, foreign governments and world organizations would align against us. When you truly understand the epicenter of the corruption, then you are able to see the tentacles extending from it.
It would be easy to say “repeal the 17th amendment;“ it is ‘another kettle of fish’ entirely to walk through the process to make that happen. Yes, ultimately, we do need a full repeal of the 17th amendment and return the selection of the senators from each state with a nomination and appointment process within the state legislature. [Common Explainer Here]
Seventeenth Amendment- “The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each State shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the State legislatures.
When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of such State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.” (link)
Prior to the 17th amendment, there was significant state level corruption as business interests and senate candidates worked in power groups with party officials to attain the position. Politicians seeking Senate seats began campaigning for state legislative candidates in order to assemble support.
The state legislative races then became a process of influence amid powerful interests seeking to support their Senate candidate. Get the right people in the State legislature and you can get the Senator appointed.
Those state-level entities, bankers, wealthy people of influence, later became the permanent K-Street lobbying groups once the 17th amendment was ratified. In essence, they just shifted the location of their influence operation from the state to an office in Washington DC. [Those same power groups, albeit much larger, now write the physical legislation we see in congress.] Additionally, prior to the 17th amendment, there were issues of vacancies in federal senate seats as state legislatures could not agree on an individual Senator.
The biggest issue following the passage of the 17th amendment became Senators who were no longer representing the interests of their state. Instead, they were representing the interests of the power elite groups who were helping them fund the mechanisms of their re-election efforts.
A Senator only needs to run for re-election every six years. The 17th amendment is the only amendment that changed the structure of the congress as it was written by the founders.
Over time, the Senate chamber itself began using their advice and consent authority to control the executive and judicial branch. The origination of a nomination now holds the question: “Can this person pass the Senate confirmation process?” The Senate now abuses this power to ensure no one challenges them. Additionally, the Senate began using their oversight capacity to control elements within the executive branch and judicial branch. The full scope of that issue in modern form is OUTLINED HERE – which is the cornerstone of the Intelligence Branch of Government.
If we can repeal the 17th amendment and return the selection to the state legislature, you can see where the background work of Tactical Civics and Extreme Federalism begin to take on importance. [NOTE: Within the repeal effort we would need to include a recall process for states to reach out and yank back their Senator if they go astray; the ability to recall was missing in the original construct of the framers; it would need to be added.]
◊ PATH ONE is the expressed primary platform of a presidential candidate…. a visible and emphasized mandate that includes: “vote me into office and you are voting to repeal the 17th amendment “.
This specific election issue would need to be the #1 priority of the candidate and spoken at every event.
◊ PATH TWO is the parallel path built along with the election platform path and put into place in the event that Congress refused to accept the mandate.
Obviously, this would be an ugly battle. The second path is a convention of states in the first year of the new President’s second term in office.
The ‘convention of states‘ would be detailed, strategically planned, and the future schedule determined during the GOP convention preceding the November election (assuming the right candidate wins). That way, if congress refuses to act on their own, within say the first 100 days of the new administration, the state legislatures will then assemble a convention for the singular and limited purpose of one action item: “repeal the 17th amendment “. That’s it. Full Stop. Nothing more. Nothing else entertained.
There is a lot more to this, and a lot more to cover in discussion of this. However, this is the path that can resolve most of the issues we face with an out-of-control federal government. The shift in power would kneecap the Intelligence Branch of Government by re-instituting genuine oversight and control. A repeal of the 17th amendment stops Senators from campaigning, needing to raise money and puts them directly into the accountability position as a steward for the interests of their state.
The people within each state would then have a mechanism to address any negative federal action by contacting their state legislative representative. In a worst-case scenario, a rogue Senator could be removed within days if they support any federal legislative activity that is not in alignment with the state interest. This approach also wipes out most of the power amid the Senate Majority Leader, as he/she could also be recalled by the state and would be less likely to work against the interests of the majority in the chamber.
The House of Representatives was created to be the voice of the people, ie, “The Peoples’ House.” However, the U.S. Senate was structurally created to be the place where state government had representation in the federal government decision-making. The 17th amendment completely removed state representation, and we have been in an escalating battle over state’s rights ever since.
Overlay that DC structural issue with the fact that almost all of the bureaucracy created by this skewed DC system is now in place to defend itself from any outside effort to change it, and you get this UniParty problem that Donald Trump fully exposed.
Repeal the 17th amendment and we would see the most significant restoration of freedom, liberty and social balance in our lifetime.
One of the more challenging facets to awakening the general public on the scale of corruption within Washington DC is the need for people to drop party designations.
This is never truer than within the U.S. Senate where the mistaken “us -vs- them” perspective remains a pesky hurdle.
The blue team and red team are mirror images of themselves. They are not opposites, they are mirrored – a big difference.
The policy objective is the same, the business model within DC (K Street) benefits the upper chamber the most.
Within this dynamic Mitch McConnell is the mirror image of Chuck Schumer. Mitch has been grooming his replacement for a long time; that replacement is John Thune. Senator Thune is in a position that demands stealth. Ideologically, think of John Thune as the mirror image of Gavin Newsom. They are not opposites, they are mirrored – a big difference.
The system of affluence and influence has been created to self-sustain regardless of party affiliation. The Senate is one club with one ideological perspective. Within that club rule #1 dominates: none of the members will ever expose another member. So, when there is corrupt activity within the Senate no-one from within the institution will expose another. This is the code of Omerta within the upper chamber. This is the way of the “my good friend” Senate and how it operates.
The Senate is a silo.
Now we fall back to watch the super important Committee Chairmanships that John Thune will decide!



As subtle as a brick through a window.
Hopefully the upcoming SD governorship will offer some enticing.
This would seem to be a repudiation by an ingrate . . . or does he expect to be Governor of SD AND Senate Majority Leader simultaneously?
Right!
The Lt. Governor will succeed Noem, according to the SD constitution, article 4, section 6.
There will be an election for governor in 2026, because that’s when Noem’s term would end.
John Thune will never leave his seat of power for a governorship.
Hopefully Thune will be enticed by the SD governorship, and when/if he runs Trump will refuse to endorse him. Assuming he resigns his Senate seat to run, but I suspect he won’t do that. I think we’re probably stuck with him until 2028 at least.
Judas congratulates Judas
This little traitorous worm can’t even correctly spell the name of Thune’s wife.
The fakeness is total with Judas Pence.
Shut your evil piehole, 30Pence!
I dont see 3 men in that picture…just 90 peices of silver!
I see three butt buddies.
Pride – oops, I mean proud members of the 1st Battalion of the 2nd Butt Ranger Regiment.
Integrity and principle = code for back stabber
SPIT!!! (I’m running out of saliva!)
Hope this is the kiss of death for them.
John Thune has NEVER made a secret about his opinion of President Trump.
I never could figure why people didn’t remember that.
Oh, I think most people do indeed remember that! But, we’re talking about the Senate Republican Business Inc. secret vote here, not a vote of and by the people.
And to the GOPe, Thune’s opinion of PT is a feature, not a bug.
They do remember. But can do nothing about it.
Like a whore going to church. Sometimes people change. Sometimes.
Bad news.
McConnell strikes again.
If wishes were horses, he’d have been in the car with his sister-in-law.
Sigh… 😒
Ugh.
Evil, wicked SOB. Rot in hell.
As expected. Thune is a weakling. He caved to recess appointments as soon as Trump demanded them. He isnt any match for Trump.
SD: “ Within that club rule #1 dominates: none of the members will ever expose another member. So, when there is corrupt activity within the Senate no-one from within the institution will expose another. This is the code of Omerta within the upper chamber. This is the way of the “my good friend” Senate and how it operates.”
We can see this even in the better senators. Mike Lee and Rand Paul never name names. Also why all of them want to vote by secret ballot.
They are ALL disgusting creeps!
There must be something really awful on all of them.
Yes, you have to be tainted to get in the inner sanctum – the clean living ones are tainted with money fraud.
Yes. Remember Hitlery’s 800 FBI files???? They are all dirty one way or another one. Very few are honest and if you are honest, you don’t stand a chance.
he did not cave
he suggested
not a firm committment
don’t we know who these people are by now
we need to start throwing our own monkey wrenches in the mix
but don’t ask me what that is
I am pissed
We WANT him to cave to Trump recess appointments!
He said he would consider it — that is NOT a “cave”.
Me thunks he will bring it to a vote at least once to fulfill his political semi-promise, but only when he knows it will not pass a full Senate vote.
When a single Senator could request recess, for appointments, for Trump, did even Rand ever ONCE request it? Senate was “in session” for 4 straight years just to oppose Trump. They are not on our side.
Don’t think the senators didn’t get together and make dang sure Scott was last and had to drop out.
PLANNED and typical for RINO, cheats that sit on capitol hill.
The names/votes will get released.
I’ll assure everyone both NC senators voted against Scott.
I AM SURE ” my ” BOUGHT and PAID FOR Senators from INDIANA Did ALSO –
TODD YOUNG
JIM BANKS ( Senator ELECT )
Also Wrote the Out Going – MIKE BRAUN ( INDIANA Governor ELECT ) about the Selection.
NO FEEDBACK From My CONTACTING Them.
TWO in Writing; the Other by Phone Call to His State Office
Brilliant, I know the 17th Amendment is a core problem; however, I never thought of it as the House represents the people (the mob – 50% + 1 vote) and the Senate represents the States (the Republic – the representatives of the state decide much like the electoral college system).
It’s that perspective that was lost when the “progressives” fundamentally changed the US.
They call themselves “progressive” but We The People know they are Socialists.
And every single change in the Constitution takes us farther from the finely debated, designed, drafted framework we were given. What hubris to think agreeing to the changes pushed by communists would be an improvement.
POTUS #28 Woodrow Wilson
1) Revenue Act of 1913
2) Federal Reserve Act
3) World War I in 1914
4) Selective Service Act
5) Espionage Act of 1917
6) Sedition Act of 1918
7) League of Nations ( predecessor to UNITED NATIONS )
8) 17th Amendment was Originated in the 62nd Congress in 1912; Ratified by 36 States ( 3/4 of States ) CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT April 8, 1913 – FIRST FULL USE: November 1918 election
ONE PRESIDENTIAL OFFICE HOLDER – March 4, 1913, until March 4, 1921
He’s ALWAYS been #1 on my manure list!!! SPIT!!!
changing amendments would do jack shit in my opinion
I live in Illinois and not once does our state government
do anything for the people paying taxes in the state
repealing it would look great on the face of things
but, nothing would change
I can’t believe people are throwing that new carrot in our face
It’s not gonna help everywhere, but will be a much better system, I think 3/4’s of state a R majority, so there’s that
It would focus IL’s corruption in IL. Other 49 states can compensate for that, or go along. Divide and conquer.
And this why donating to Republicans and voting for them is as big a waste as it would be to donate or vote for a Dem. Same coin, different sides. And we the people lose no matter which side the coin lands on.
Right! Donate ONLY directly to the person you know for sure is good!
Meaning MAGA.
MAGA as a movement is how we win.
A dem congress will impeach PDJT. A RINO congress will not impeach PDJT.
True… and to me that was paramount in voting R down ticket.
I don’t want PDJT tortured as he was in his 1st term. He’s been through enough.
Hopefully Thune will serve the country and The President honorably and fairly.
Agree with your first two sentences.
The last – well, we can dream I guess! 🤣
Thune will provide the torture and slowly strangle MAGA.
“If we want to change the dynamic, we must repeal the 17th amendment and return to the original constitutional construct: Senators appointed to represent the interests of each state, by State Legislature.
The Senate was designed to represent the interests of the State, not ‘the people’; that’s the job of the House of Representatives.”
Amen and Amen!
Thanks for the in-depth discussion that follows on how to do this!
Bingo!
Since taking away popular election of Senators might be a tough sell—remembering that a super-majority of states would be required—how about a two-step: Senators are elected by voters, but are subject to recall by their state legislature at any time during their term of office? That should return a lot of power to state legislatures.
Could an individual state legislature populated by a sufficient number of likeminded people, do this within their state?
That would also take a Constitutional Amendment
I’m sure we’ll get some debate on this in the coming days.
Actually not necessarily.
Some states have already passed law allowing them to recall officeholders, I think…
Remember that 10th amendment…
…proving once again that the GOPe is the stupid party.
It’s not a party.
It’s only half of one.
[Now we must focus on the very important chairmanships of the senate committees that John Thune will decide.]
Por que?
With this vote, I feel almost like I would have if Harris had won.
Come on now.
Not even close.
I’ll take managed decline over foot on gas censorship – any time.
Time spent doing necessary things.
Thune = mini-Mitch = Mitch’s Mini Me. : (
Now surely it makes sense for Trump to jettison Waltz and get a national security advisor like Douglas MacGregor, who is actually qualified for the job because he knows what’s going on in the world, and forget about installing any other neocons or RINOs like Marco Rubio. There are plenty of loyal, competent MAGA populists Trump has to choose from. Even a smart but inexperienced MAGA populist would be better in just about any cabinet position than any experienced Neocon/Zionist/RINO/IC candidate.
a plumber or electrician would be better
Yup. Any ordinary citizen plucked off the street would be better than any Neocon, RINO or Israel-firster.
MacGregor’s position on Israel is more or less what John Mearsheimer’s position is: we should treat Israel like any other foreign nation. The “special relationship” we have with Israel is a millstone around our necks. Israel is also in a lot of trouble entirely of its own making, and they’re trying to wiggle their way out of it while remaining committed to establishing greater Israel, which includes driving out the Palestinians, by instigating a regional war in the middle east that they want to drag us into.
We get nothing but trouble and a big fat bill from our “greatest ally”, who by the way carries out
espionage against us more than almost any other nation. An America First government would simply acknowledge this fact and change course.
9-11 anyone?
Excellent commentary. Will our President listen? Sadly, I am doubtful, yet I continue to hope and pray.
Never heard that except from people who think that opposing spending U.S. tax dollars to arm Israel is anti-Israel. He’s in the boat with many of us that don’t believe in arming foreign countries with U.S armaments.
PLEASE
ENOUGH of The FOR / AGAINST ISRAEL Stuff –
The ISRAELIS WILL TAKE CARE Of –
# 1 – ISRAELIS !!!!!!!!!
The UNITED STATES SUPPORT for Israel CAN OCCUR –
WHEN Their Interests ALIGN with OUR NATIONAL INTERESTS
THEY USE OUR TECHNOLOGY; WE GET TO Use Their’s
WHEN THEY DECIDE… ( SEE The DIFFERENTIATION )
WE SPY on THEIR WAR – THEY SHOOT UP OUR SHIP —> USS LIBERTY AGTR-5
THEY NEED AIRCRAFT –
THEY BUY THEM ( With ” CASH BACK ” ) F-15X; F-35I; F-16I; F-15I
or
TAKE THEM / SHELL GAME PROCUREMENT – B-17s, Spitfires, Avia S-99 ( Me-109G ), …
THEY NEED TECHNOLOGY – Jonathan Jay Pollard
THEY NEED a NUKE… – the Vela incident ( with ” stolen ” Yellow Cake – Operation Plumbat ) Before South Africa Fell
PRAY FOR ISRAEL
That THEY As a NATION FOLLOW GOD’s LAW and JUST As U.S. THAT They EXIST FOR HIS GLORY
BUT NO BLANK CHECKS
Who fkng cares about Israel?!
We are America! Not fkng Israel!
God cares about Israel.
Let’s hope Thune’s tenure is brief, that he does go home to run for governor!
Governor’s race will be in 2026.
The long march. Start in 2026. Expand the MAGA candidates for both House and Senate, and get them elected.
Susie Wiles has said they have two years to get the important work done; in Trump’s previous term the tax cuts took place the first year, then Ryan made sure they lost the majority.
President Trump will have to get things accomplished with Thune.
If President Trump investigates and prosecutes election fraud as promised, I think the people on Capitol Hill will have a whole lot harder time “making sure” of anything at all.
Flood the Zone.
Cloward Piven?
That would be an excellent start. Would it be too little too late? We shall see.
This was NOT a ballot process… this was a secret backroom deal that make drug cartels look like a convent. Another F U to the American people. NO ONE hates the American citizens more than those we have allowed to govern us.
Now I’m pissed
So where now does Tulsi fit in best?
DNI or SOS
How about Tulsi DNI and Grenell as SOS
I’m afraid our chances of Paxton as AG have slipped due to not getting through Senate confirmation hearings/vote
Paxton will not make it through the senate, unfortunately.
I keep seeing Tulsi for DNI or VA. She wanted DOD though.
Tulsi DOD? Hell no.
Trump can still appoint Paxton for 6 months as acting if he wants to.
And maybe Paxton can pass senate confirmation?
Recess appointment!
Not optimal. Along with the 17th amendment, we need to repeal the 16th also. As the founders believe, at that time, no man should be deprived of his wages.
This x1000. It is the ability of the government to reach through the barrier of the states to the individual that destroyed liberty. The state is intended to be a bulwark between the national government and the individual. That is what federalism IS. That is what the 10th amendment prevented until the 16th amendment tore that barrier down.
The push to get rid of the electoral college is their next step. They have been working hard on it.
I have even heard conservatives and Trump supporters say the popular vote would be “fairer”.
I try to explain that we have to go back and study WHY the electoral system was set up that way, and that it was to make sure the smaller states had a say in who the President was. Many of the colonies were very wary of ending up in the same position they were in before – “ruled” by a king.
Are they really going to return to cheerleading for changing to the popular vote when PDJT just won it decisively?
I’ve seen gaggles of geese that never squalled like that.
Well. Talk about crapping on the people who handed this to you!
I think that you just belled the cat.
Surely, there are good books written this. Could you suggest one or two, Sundance?
A major speed bump for the MAGA agenda.
I read an article today about the Establishment pushing against RFK Jr.s MAHA initiative:
https://georgiastarnews.com/commentary/commentary-uniparty-establishment-war-on-maha-heats-up/agreat/2024/11/13/
The article outlines how the Democrats and Republicans-Establishment UniParty will fight against RFK, Jr.s attempt to rail in Big Pharma and Big Food to help improve the health of Americans.
The selection of Thune, another Establishment UniParty politician will make it extremely difficult for RFK, Jr. to achieve effective results. The senate represents Establishment Global objectives and as Sundance said doesn’t represent their state because of the 17th Amendment.
This is a major setback IMO for the America First agenda.
How to fight back-Maybe do not provide money to the senate for their reelections. Just make direct contributions to senators that support MAGA and primary the rest. Would like to see the 17th Amendment repealed, but would be very difficult if not impossible because of the strength of the Establishment in Washington.
I believe Trump and RFK Jr.. have discussed several ways to MAHA which is really critical to our nation.
Maybe Bobby as HHS sec (?) but that may be a problem w/Thune… so likely PDT/RFK have a few other options.
As I recall 43 and 44 had a group of advisors w/power outside of the cabinet. I forget what they were called. Elon and Vivek are kind of like that. There won’t be an actual dept of govt efficiency b/c depts/agencies are created by congress… but this “dept” will have power directly under, answering to the POTUS.
Bobby Jr is unqualified for HHS.
Face = Dr. Ben Carson.
Deputy = RFK Jr?
Czars?
Exactly 👍👍👍👍👍
The Senate of OligarchWhores doesn’t need our 💰💵 donations. Only Senators who buck the system do.
That’s an insult to all prostitutes!
Not like you didn’t warn us, but hope springs eternal. Until it doesn’t.
Mine is still bubbling and will be until I die.
https://x.com/brianeharrison/status/1856713954833100858?s=46
Excellent.
There you go.
I’d have to look it up, but there may already be other states whose legislatures are empowered to call Senators.
And if there aren’t, it may soon become a trend!
Is Cruz going to go rogue?
lots of money was carroted before Thune……….no other reason. Not even his wife could stop that…
Or power?
If you live in South Dakota, how much $$$ do you need?
Thank you for jumping on this so quickly Sundance!
Is there a list of who the 13 MAGA Senators are, and who the anti-Trump Senators are?
There was a list with the rumored votes, but does it match the numbers?
Someone needs to leak the list. I bet we can come up with good guesses though. Also, I would like to see a list of all senators that are up for reelection in 2026-could come up with some primary targets.
Benny Johnson has already promised to find it out and make it public down to the last vote.
Really depressing ☹️…had high hopes Trump would be able to get our ship back on course… but one never knows … as Yogi said ..”it ain’t over till it’s over”🙏🙏
🇺🇸💪😀👍
Nope. The captain is the GOAT!
House of Lords!
This is what we get for not primarying every single incumbent when we had the chance. A snake is a snake.. is a snake..
I’ve been screaming for a repeal of the 17th for decades. Most don’t understand why it is so imperative.
Opinions vary on whether a CoS can truly be limited to just one issue. I’m still leery of trying it, considering it a “break glass in case of emergency” thing. My opinion might change based on how the Senate GOPe deals with Trump’s nominees.
I’ve been on the Treehouse only for a couple of years, so this is the absolute first time I have had the 17th Amendment shown to be clearly such a massive disaster…
Sundance has written extensively on it before. You could probably find it in the search bar.
I know that’s the prevailing opinion among those supporting it. I’ve walked this earth for over 6 decades. In that time, a lot of things, politically, that I was told “not to worry about” have happened. Just been my experience.
Now, something that will encourage me about the use of a CoS, is if the political pendulum continues to track right over the next few years.
Such a great piece that really captures what the 17th Amendment has resulted in. But I am unable to see how people could ever appreciate that at all as it’s quite cerebral compared to race, gender and abortion. Plus why would any Democrat state ever want to see power extracted from the Federal government?
There is an Art. V Convention of States movement that has around 20 states signed on. But I am not aware what amendments the movement proposes. I certainly have never heard a repeal of the 17th is among them. I always felt that even if the requisite number of states would sign on, the Democrat states would never agree to anything unless there was a repeal of the 2nd Amendment and then some.
What do our national elections and the Senate leadership vote have in common? Zero transparency.
The taxpayers have a right to question election results and visibility is paramount to faith in our republic.
Heads up to the ruling class, we will find a way to affect the result. You may have gotten it over on us this time but your days are numbered.
Well, I’ve decided to look at it optimistically. President Trump has, along with himself, has some very brilliant people helping him. Somehow, some way, in the future gods of the senate will be overcome.
Liberty scores…
Rick Scott – 86%
Cornyn – 54%
Thune = 51%
So Thune it is always lurking behind McConnell looking like a ghoul.
Thune is McConnell’s dog.
Maybe Noem can deal with him. I’m told she has a way with dogs.
McConnell strikes from the grave
Did I miss something? Did he die?
Along with the 16th and Federal Reserve Act.
The 17th allowed for the elites, the Banksters who profit from the 16th/Fed Act to consolidate and focus their machinations from one ‘central’ location as opposed to having to run 50 separate operations.
Those 2 Amendments and that specific Act was a trifecta effort and, unfortunately, success for the internationalist moneyed interests.
It was their goal at the time and what we see today is a result of that.
Repeal 16th, 17th and Federal Reserve Act.
If we are going to have a convention for 1 Amendment, might as well cut the other while in session.
Woodrow Wilson strikes again.
The carrots didn’t work.
So more sunlight. Leak the list.
And then it’s open electoral season on all these secret backstabbers. And that includes new people like Dave McCormick, who owed their election to Donald Trump.
We must treat these people like those Republicans who voted to impeach.
Time for the stick.
McCormick was on Benny’s list as voting against Rick Perry.
Have to remember “We The People” want to have a Republican majority in the senate and look at it as a good thing, the Republican senators do not.
First of all, the popular election of senators will never be repealed. Election to Congress is the only popular democracy feature of the federal government. But…the idea of recall is one that could help. Seventeen states currently allow recall. Maybe efforts should be concentrated on extending recall to every state.
Seventeen! That’s good news.
The only way that we can see a repeal of the 17th Amendment is a Convention of the States. This will necessitate a massive education effort. Most people (my family included) make similar arguements with me that:
I think that magnificent chair has to be a Chippendale . . . I wonder where it is now . . .
this information from Google image search about the painting of the signing
“DescriptionEnglish: Foundation of the American Government by John Henry Hintermeister.[1] Published by the Osborne company, Newark, N.J. From the painting’s copyright description: “Signing of the Constitution. At desk sits Washington watching Gouverneur Morris sign; behind Morris are Roger Sherman, Franklin, Robert Morris, Madison and others, and at right Hamilton and Randolf.” Another copyright registration caption for the Osborne print: “Foundation of American government. Committee signing the Constitution, with Washington presiding and Gov. Morris signing papers.”
Date1925-12-30[2]SourcePBSAuthorHenry Hintermeister (1897–1970)
This was credited to Henry online everywhere I looked. However, the copyright registration book for 1925 did not separate Henry Hintermeister from John Henry Hintermeister; both used the same Hy Hintermeister signature.”
The US Senate was bought by that era’s “Robber Barons” via 17A.
The United States of America & her citizens were bought by the same robber barons via 16A & the Federal Reserve Act.
We’ve been Oligarch slaves since 1913.
I thought everyone on the Treehouse knew that? Depressing and infuriating!!!
Were the 16th and 17th amendments PROPERLY ratified by the required number of states? Mystery involved in that regard!
This is a Big Glitch in the System.
Chuck Schumer –one of many happy campers today in the DC sludge.
It’s “complex.”
THERE IS a No MORE DISGUSTING PERSON than an Individual THAT SEEKS OFFICE FOR POWER or POSITION Instead of Being Selected by Their LEADERSHIP SKILLS.
PREFERABLY a New Office Nominee was ” Drafted ” or CONVINCED of THE NEEDS Of the Organization, Congregation, The NATION to ASSUME The SOLEMN ROLE.
MY THOUGHTS Go TO OUR NATION’s FINEST EXAMPLE – POTUS GEORGE WASHINGTON, GENERAL of ARMY ( RET )
i Apologize Senator Thune – YOU ARE NOT my Vision of A QUALIFIED or RELUCTANT LEADER
YOU ARE a ” RANK CLIMBER ”
qrw
Thune and Cornyn — RINO potato and RINO po-tah-toe.