Ordinarily the opinions of one tech billionaire would, perhaps, not matter much to the life of an ordinary American. However, in this era of 2024 election and the Technocracy influence, maybe this interview discussion carries a different set of values.
Tech entrepreneur Peter Thiel, the founder of Palantir, an AI enhanced data processing system that streamlines the organization of technological surveillance methods, gives his views on a variety of current political aspects.
I find the interview as little interesting from a few perspectives. First, while generally supporting President Trump, Peter Thiel says he is choosing to stay out of the political influence game in the 2024 general election. Considering the scale of Thiels prior advocacy and specific action he undertook to put JD Vance into office and then into the VP nominee position for Trump – this decision to now ‘step back’ from 2024 seems a big disingenuous.
Second, and directly related to the first point, Thiel -through Palantir contracts- is now directly enmeshed in the Intelligence Community effort to capture and organize surveillance metadata of Americans. Perhaps, just perhaps, this new financial dependency plays a role in influencing his ‘step back’ decision. WATCH:
Other points worth noting relate to how Thiel outlines his perspectives on geopolitical events. When you look at Thiel’s communication abilities and perspectives it really shows you how shallow, small and generally naïve these top-tier influence agents can be.
You can see how there is a big difference between “theory” and practical reality or “practice.” Thiel waxes philosophically about how the human nature of leadership intersects with outcomes. Meanwhile, President Trump represents the practical application of geopolitical policy. Thiel’s thoughts are narrow and small. Trump’s thoughts are consequential, deep and can bring actionable results.
The contrast between Thiel and his co-panels’ theories, when overlaid against President Trump and his factual application of geopolitical leverage, pressure points, focused policy… and applied truthful/direct and brutally honest relationship presentation to world leaders -what Thiel calls “human agency”, really provides substance to the unique scale of Trump.
The “Thiel’s” of the world are talkers; Donald J Trump is a doer. Boy howdy does this discussion of smaller men showcase that dynamic.
Perhaps you can tell from my description that I really do not have any time/tolerance for the small-minded Technocrats that have assembled a power dynamic far beyond their ability.
The Chairman Xi and Vladimir Putin’s of the world look upon this crew of billionaire technocrats like western children allowed to play with very dangerous weapons. I find myself totally understanding why Xi/Putin hold this perspective view.
We are in a dangerous time in history. Technology has allowed a very specific segment of technically smart men and women to assemble power; essentially the technocracy class. However, these people do not have a solid grasp on the axiom that with great power comes great responsibility. They talk like children without care for even the elocution of their discussion points.
Leadership, true leadership, comes from a perspective of structural stability of the mind. Strong leadership has always been a lonely place for those who carry it.
Geopolitical power in an era of technocracy and the interconnectedness of social media platforms and global communication systems requires great internal discipline and mental stability.
President Trump carries the mental strength of powerful leadership combined with relatability that conveys his message to everyone. In many ways his uniqueness is within Trump’s ability to be a bridge between two eras. It is quite remarkable.
CHAPTERS:
(0:00) The panel introduces Peter Thiel
(1:03) Why he’s not financially participating in the 2024 election
(6:53) US relationship with China, is defending Taiwan worth risking WW3?
(16:38) State of AI: Similar to the internet in 1999
(24:03) Innovation stagnation in the US
(29:42) Thoughts on the current state of the US economy
(32:50) The higher education bubble
(39:09) Who will win AI, Nvidia’s monopoly position going forward
Every one of these twerps would have been made to run a gauntlet in every school or camp I went to. Maybe they were put through a few and that’s why they hate humanity so much. Panel of squirts.
Technocrats like Peter Theil make no distinction between being smart and being wise…because they’ve never experienced wisdom.
Technocrats like Bill Gates have convinced themselves that technology improves the human condition…it doesn’t.
Technocrats place no value on the dignity of work and look for ways to replace human workers with machines, as though that is a benefit to mankind…it isn’t.
Technocrats believe that planting electrodes in human brains makes a better human because it enables him access AI thoughts that are superior to his own thoughts…they aren’t.
Sundance, Chairman Xi and Vladimir Putin are all right. These are children…dangerous children.
Forrest Gump was right about something too. He said, “I am not a smart man…but I know what love is!”
Gump wasn’t smart…but he was wise.
Thiel is smart. he aligned with President Trump. He wants to have a a senate vote (did) and now a voice in the ear of the President.
His use of these idiot influencers is just part of the aisle shopping at checkout when you order these things I’m sure. Its always going to be filled with grifters. Him pushing DeSantis quietly is just again wanting influece on the Government that screws with everything.
I get touchy when things look like they are sketchy towards President Trump. No one is immune from that.
For nearly a decade, President Trump’s been my litmus test. The attitude towards Trump of people I once admired/respected/believed in, tells me who they really are, politically, how honest or how corrupt.
Perfect description. I think that is how most people view it also. the real deciding factor.
Thiel is a libertarian who runs the worlds largest private surveillance and control system, 35 Covid lockdowns for instance
I guess that’s what he means by a contrarian and libertarian
He also gifted us Vivek the walking MAGA chatbot that wants to be the Blackrock of MAGA
“He also gifted us Vivek the walking MAGA chatbot that wants to be the Blackrock of MAGA”. Too funny. Thanks for the laugh.
Technocrats like Bill Gates have convinced themselves that technology improves the human condition…it doesn’t.
Would you care to refine that statement? Ever use an outhouse?
I try to do my best to form my own opinion on Sundances links but found myself doubling down on sundances opinion listening to this weak and uninteresting boy child in about 4 minutes of play. Thanks Sundance.
view it as a conservative libertarian homsexual. It kind of helps remove any misdirections.
Another assassination attempt, unbelievable. Thank you Lord for protecting him..
A lot of money under the control of a relatively small head. There are several such creatures, and there is no good in them.
try viewing it from the point that aligning with the government is the top way to get funded and past hurdles. and if you build multiple companies that aid each other (energy, communication, ledger for currency, boaring, data management of humans to know how they really operate) then if the Goverment falls you still self sustain (and can offer a living for those local that fit into the model)
The fall of the government is the preferred position.
Just a regular day in WPB…..
get the clean up crew out. we wants our crime scenes clean, the cleanest!
MAGA’s greatest fear. This guy (guys) will turn up dead. The news will report suicide. Gun was stolen. Case closed. We’re officially a banana republic filled with a dirty IC. It’s another sad day for our beautiful Republic. I’m very distressed and very angry. I don’t know the answer other than prayer for divine protection. These next 50 days will reveal what the American people are made of.
lying to us is allowed and paid for by the government.
The goverment is funding most of the ‘comerce of things’ we encounter. Thats why is injected DEI and lies and bullshit.
hard money isnt earned anymore. its sought and conformed for…
So TRUE Sundance! It’s about the TRUTH and TRUMP knows THE TRUTH!
https://apnews.com/article/trump-shooting-gunshots-florida-f62f8378d3a8ce7b2e99d6a8fb40aba9
A man with an AK-style rifle pushed the firearm’s muzzle through the perimeter of Donald Trump’s West Palm Beach, Florida golf course Sunday as the Republican presidential candidate was playing a round, prompting U.S. Secret Service to open fire, according to three law enforcement officials. The former president is safe and unharmed. The person dropped the weapon and fled in an SUV, and was later apprehended in a neighboring county, the officials said.
Thiel never answers the question about Nvidia controlling the AI market after all just continues to talk in circles!
Elon Musk – All-In Summit 2024
Love Elon Musk’s thoughtful sense of propriety in some wackiest demonstration of his incredible sense of humor. Doesn’t take himself seriously either!
The Bible talks about people like Thiel: supposedly smart people who are really foolish as a child.
1 Corinthians 1:18-31
For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written:
“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise,
And bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.”
Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. For Jews request a sign, and Greeks seek after wisdom; but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a stumbling block and to the Greeks foolishness, but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
Glory Only in the Lord
For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called. But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty; and the base things of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are, that no flesh should glory in His presence. But of Him you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God—and righteousness and sanctification and redemption— that, as it is written, “He who glories, let him glory in the Lord.”
Years ago Peter Thiel dared to stand in defiance of those who thought to rule the world. This is his punishment. There are more levels of control than most dare imagine in their darkest dreams. I am a baby boomer. I take no offense from his comments. I have witnessed his courage. 222 is BBB. When you can’t be Bribed or Blackmailed, you get Brain f*cked. Kamala said those of us who supported Donald Trump would be sorry. We didn’t choose the program-it was chosen for us.
Many are thrilled with the Revelations story. You know-the one where He brings one world government and one world religion. Some welcome the Rapture, where your bodies all drop dead at once as your souls fly to heaven. There is a program for every religion where they are promised their version of religion will bring the messiah.
As for me, I choose to stay and fight this. I will not give in to the program. There really is a God-the programmers are the petty little wanna-be gods. My battle is for humanity. I only hope Peter Thiel might realize there is at least one of us who have not forgotten him.
I agree with you. He was asked if he supported PDJT and his answer was he didn’t support financially but he may support through other means not mentioned, IMO, and I am hoping that he will support through stopping voter fraud, which he alluded to but wasn’t specific. Why give away a secret as he also alluded to. I think these tech Savy people like Theil and Musk have seen the writing on the wall and don’t like the picture it paints as to where it is headed. They have stepped up on their end finally. I know this is, way out there, thinking but I am hoping there is some way to stop the voter fraud and am putting my hopes on probably about anything. The nebulous internet, satellite, cloud things that I cannot fathom or know much about but like electrons that I know exist I will hope someone much brighter than myself in these areas will be the answer to the world’s communist dilemmas.
“Competition is for Losers.. and monopolies are the goal” P. Thiel
To borrow a phrase from the late Richard Nixon, Peter Thiel seems to be “too clever by half”.
Whitney web has done some good investigative work on Theil, amongst many others of the tehcocorrupts & if what Web claims is true about Theil then I don’t think Theil should be anywhere close to the WH.
I don’t like the way Thiel carefully picks his words so as not to offend the thought police.
He did another interview recently with Joe Rogan. I couldn’t get through more than an hour of it. But some interesting thoughts on Bill Gates which were surprising to hear from someone in Thiel’s position.
And he addressed something I have long wondered about — the lack of real technological progress in the last 50+ years. Looks like he hit on that here too, but I will skip the watch.
Ah, New York City—a name once synonymous with grandeur, ambition, and that electric pulse of possibility. But now, don’t you see, it’s become a culinary spectacle of the grotesque, where the rats have gone from scurrying in the shadows to sizzling on the grill. Grilled rats. Ah, yes, how far we’ve drifted from the Statue of Liberty’s outstretched arm to this bizarre charade.
https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f37d.svg The “Big Apple” now trades its famed pizza and hot dogs for…vermin? You can almost hear the city’s heartbeat stutter as it struggles under the weight of its own contradictions. A city that once towered over the world now feeds its own decay, like a ship infested by rats, eating away at its hull from within.
https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f30c.svg But, you know, it’s not just about the rats, is it? It’s a symbol of a deeper rot, an administration that’s so focused on illusionary problems while ignoring the glaring issues gnawing at the very bones of the city. It’s almost poetic—if it wasn’t so tragically absurd.
Thiel is a wonderful example of The Idiocracy. Puerile attitude and weak grasp of the facts, by a fabulously wealthy man who believes himself far smarter than he is because he’s been extremely successful at one thing. No smarter or better informed than the typical X user, but instead of posting bad hot takes he can actually influence government policy.
Whitney Webb—Deep State Mafia Controls Both Political Parties.
https://old.bitchute.com/video/ZsNe7MYkBwvF/
If you all are correct and they are all using PDJT for their nefarious reasons, then I shall raise my head. Luke 21:28, Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.
You make the point that “We are in a dangerous time in history. Technology has allowed a very specific segment of technically smart men and women to assemble power; essentially the technocracy class. However, these people do not have a solid grasp on the axiom that with great power comes great responsibility. They talk like children without care for even the elocution of their discussion points.”
Who could disagree with this? But where does it leave us?
Not with Peter Thiel, and his deeply-probing questions about “technology.” And his sometimes-scathing comments about (some of the familiar names in) the “technocracy class.” Or with what he reminds of of the things that have happened in our country in the 80 years since the end of world War II.
“When you look at Thiel’s communication abilities and perspectives it really shows you how shallow, small and generally naïve these top-tier influence agents (italics added) can be.”
I don’t think it does. Listen to the problems he raises; the questions he asks. Maybe Donald Trump has “practical” answers to them — but to all of them? (Do any of us?)
Thank you for making this very interesting conversation, of this fascinatingly-intelligent man, available to CTH followers!