President Trump delivers remarks after Judge Juan Merchan delivered some of the most ridiculous instructions in the history of jury instructions.
Judge Juan Merchan told jurors they do not have to agree unanimously on each of the 3 counts charged. The jury can have 4 members agree to guilt on each of the three counts and the judge will accept that as 12 decisions for guilt overall. There’s no way these types of instructions will pass appellate court review; but that’s not the purpose of the Lawfare that Judge Merchan is participating in. WATCH:
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BREAKING.🚨
Judge Merchan has instructed the jury they do not need to have a *UNANIMOUS* verdict in order to convict former President Donald J. Trump.
"One thing in particular that the judge said the jurors could do. He delivered what is being called really the pinnacle of all… pic.twitter.com/Zul2sdFLOk
— Kyle Becker (@kylenabecker) May 29, 2024
https://x.com/AndrewHGiuliani/status/1795863625837506984
Voting Trump regardless. MAGA 2024. FJB
I read yesterday in an article (which of COURSE I didn’t save) that President Trump has an avenue to appeal this corrupt, manipulated, political verdict we all assume will be a guilty one, directly to the Supreme Court.
Perhaps legal eagles in our branches can comment on this.
In the meantime…
I think Mark Levin and one other attorney said there is a path to the SC based on his rights being taken way or something along that lines…I got hopeful for a second…then realized how much this branch has also let us down when it comes to saving the republic …
See below (I should have scrolled…mea culpa).
OhMy’s comment and link .
It was Mark Levin 👍🏻.
Cheers, sis 👍🏻
From that tweet: “The Supreme Court warned that Bush v. Gore not be relied on as a precedent—on the merits. But it can and should be relied upon as the Supreme Court acting to preserve American democracy from an imminent threat.” My emphasis.
That is my hope in a nutshell (if an appeal is necessary). November is just 5 months away, and counting.
The clock is ticking for the the traitorous cabal. Sweaty palms all around.
Arthur Fergenson proclaims that Trump not being informed of the crime he allegedly committed is a serious breach of due process. His last paragraph announces where the real threat to democracy sits.
“The NY trial court represents an imminent danger to the fair and untrammeled conduct of a federal election for the most powerful position in America and the world. The Supreme Court has the power to act to protect our democracy. And it should. If a guilty verdict is returned, it should act right away.”
The SC’s legitimacy is on the line with this one IF application is made and they do not take it up.
I hope the justices recognize the danger in not.
It will be the final shovelful of dirt on the corpse of our Republic.
A writ of certiorari is a decision by the U.S. Supreme Court to hear an appeal from a lower court.The act of “granting certiorari” means the Supreme Court agrees to hear a case.Certiorari must be requested by submitting a petition for writ of certiorari to the Supreme Court.The Supreme Court grants only about 1.1% of the thousands of petitions for certiorari submitted each term.Denying a petition for certiorari has no effect on the lower court’s decision or the laws involved.Granting a petition for certiorari requires the affirmative votes of at least four Supreme Court justices.
Yes… but NOT to grant certiorari creates an EXTREME national crisis for the nation, 5 months from the election.
To permit the R candidate who is winning and a former potus in prison with such an overtly legally flawed case would be to incite a constitutional crisis.
There would have to be at least 4 justices that would grant certiorari.
The judges instructions alone are insane. If only 4 jurists vote to convict the judge will accept that as all 12 voting to convict. SCOTUS can’t ignore this.
“SCOTUS can’t ignore this.”
We’ll see now, won’t we? I agree that’s how it SHOULD be, but remember, 3 are flaming fruitcake leftists (one being a woman who doesn’t know what a woman is), at least 2 are fully pusillanimous in the style of Anthony Kennedy, and 1 is completely Epstein’s Fantasy Island-compromised. Justice may not prevail.
It was Mark Levin. I read it too. SCOTUS can snatch it from the NY appellate court IF they choose on grounds this is serious election interference and dangerous to the COTUS system of govt.
Wolverines….!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Was there ever a consideration of not voting for an innocent man who is a victim of corruption in our government?
Voting Trump regardless and Retribution; let the heads roll because they’re coming for us through Trump.
Either way, it stinks! The SC needs a total bleach job done to it!
Bullseye Patence.
If such a “judge,” and I use that word ridiculously loosely, is not ultimately removed from the bench, then we know beyond doubt that the American system of justice is irredeemably broken.
We already know…
Ya beat me to it
Indeed! I pray for the Trump family everyday.
He’s not even a regular circuit judge. He’s retired, just being brought in on these Trump cases. He doesn’t care about being disciplined. This whole thing is insane.
Judge as well as jury picking (rigging).
It’s the Democrat way.
He’s getting paid by the left for the guilty verdict.
So is his daughter. They won’t be sharing cells, though.
Showers not cells.
FIFY
And did I read his wife works for/with Letitia James? Could be fake news, but nothing surprising me anymore.
“Randomly” assigned to 3 Trump or Trump surrogate cases… see Stefanik’s letter complaining bitterly about this “random selection” process.
Retired Magistrate here: No one is going to remove this “judge” from the bench; it is New York.
I wouldn’t bet against that!
Sadly, I believe your are 100% correct.
It’s broken.
Yes, he needs to be disbarred.
Disbarred, misbarred….rebarred?
Save the feathers just use the tar 👍
What a sad day. A real bolshevick show trial right here in the USA.
While Mother Teresa could not beat these charges, thank God that Trump is not Mother Teresa. Also pray that He will move the hearts of at least one, if not all of these jurors to stand for the truth.
Mother Theresa couldn’t beat these charges but a democrat could.
If there is a “hung” jury, don’t be surprised if Merchan starts a new trial the next day.
That is definitely on the Bingo card!
https://x.com/PhilHollowayEsq/status/1795800448948920727
Phil Holloway’s prediction odds:
Acquittal: 0%
Hung jury: 50%
Conviction: 50%
Acquittal is impossible. The jury is too highly biased. I expect conviction and a jail sentence with immediate incarceration. Or possibly conviction and house arrest while the appeal is in progress. But what happens next if there is a hung jury? News at 11 ….
The question remains… how will the country react when they jail our President. How will the country react when they steal the election again? I know what I will do, and it has nothing to do with rioting or “parading”.
Every God fearing citizen should march on their banks and withdraw every single penny, and then down tools. No one goes to work, no one spends a dime, no one drives their vehicles. Bring America to a standstill.
I like that. ^^^
This is the way
Too many people live paycheck to paycheck for that to work.
Sounds all well and good, but the monied few with their grubby mits glued to the levers of power have already hidden their assets in offshore locations. Only ones that will be forced to a standstill are the God fearing citizens.
Every form of civil disobedience is on the table if POTUS spends a single night in jail.
They’ll have to build a helluva lot more jail cells to hold all these Lefties!
I doubt “immediate” incarceration as the Secret Service is involved, and there will be an immediate request from the Trump team for a “stay” from the court of appeals.
I have served on 2 juries. It is quite the cluster in there. But each time we had WRITTEN instructions to guide us and keep us on track. This jacksmack judge sent them in with NOTHING. NO THING but 1 hours worth of him speaking and asking them to remember what he said and instructed. It is almost laughable if not sad what our country’s judicial system has become. This Columbian has made it a mockery. Oh guys? jurors? also? you don’t actually have to AGREE on much. Nope, just come back with a few guilty verdicts so now we can call him a “rapist” and “felon” on MSN? thank you!
I have also served on a couple of juries and we had VERY SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS GIVEN TO US BYBTHE JUDGES IN EACH CASE!!! My hope is one or two jurors decide they are not going to agree to vote guilty on anything and create enough chaos to result in a mistrial and hung jury!!! 🤔
Me too. And our written instructions included verbatim quotes of the laws the judge deemed relevant.
Is that why the alternates are being kept?
Hinky
Judge Merchan just outlawed hung juries.
I pray you are correct, Joe in Texas.
What is it with the continuing references to “Columbian” in the posts here? Second time today people keep mentioning Merchan’s nationality, as if it’s somehow relevant.
District Judge Cannon is Columbian, too. And she is an incredibly brave judge, methodically and judiciously exposing the DOJ as a pack of lawless thugs.
Merchan is an activist hack who should be removed from the Bench, regardless of his background. He is destroying what’s left of that State’s judicial reputation.
Apparently, Colombia raises better women than men?
Look no further than corrupt Colombian tyrant Houston judge Lina Hidalgo to know it’s not a gender thing.
Thank you for correcting the spelling of the name of their home country. Little detail but needed correction.
He needs to go back to Columbia.
That’s what it means.
I thought Cannon was Cuban. Could be wrong though.
Her mother fled Cuba to Columbia after the 1950s communist revolution. Aileen was born in Columbia but came to the US as a child. Her father is from Indiana, US citizen. She attended private k-12 school… then Duke for her undergrad degree and UofMich for her JD, magna cum laud. Wrote for the law review too.
Merchan came to the US as a child also. He’s a horribly political jurist, however, he did not learn the typical crooked Columbian way of graft, grift and tyranny from Columbia. He learned it here (or rather there) in New York City.
There is obviously so much wrong with this so-called trial. Not only are the charges highly questionable, and that’s being nice, there is no evidence that President Trump had anything to do with what the prosecutor and judge claim to possibly be a crime.
But another thing that really bothers me is the jury. I’ve served on a couple of juries and I would have never
served if I felt that my bias for or against the defendant would not allow me to do a fair analysis of the evidence.
That would include the Clintons, Obama, Bush, Fauci, etc. Today though too many people just do things that are dishonest, evil, corrupt, etc because they can and they don’t care as long as they get their way. We are so divided because our society has become immoral and dishonest as a people.
I don’t recall off hand, but one of the founders said something like our country as a Constitutional Republic can only survive if we are a moral and religious people-or something like that. We we are becoming, if not already there, an immoral and secular people. So our survival is very much in question.
John Adams said that. But the Founders left God completely out of the 1787 Constitution. (He was mentioned in the Articles of Condeferation.)
Yep… u r right. It was Adams not Franklin.
Franklin said: ” we have given you a Republic if you can keep it.”
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
John Adams
One useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three is a Congress.
John Adams
I am so stealing that quote. Thanks.
And … “it is wholly unsuitable for any other.” Ben Franklin.
The rot started way back in the 60s. Let’s say it was one apple in the very bottom of the barrel, and nobody was paying attention. Followed by Dr Spack, Madeleine Murray O-Hare… Satanism becoming a western-world-wide movement (alongside New Age) before it went completely underground, while still tentacled into everything…..
I’d say we were largely finished as a Judeo-Christian nation by the time Bill Boy and his even-more-evil spouse finished unpacking in the White House.
Maybe the jury needs to call the “judge” once an hour to re-read the instructions.
And keep him in chambers till at least 2300, calling him to read the instructions, again, at 2245.
This “judge” needs to be impeached and have his sorry butt thrown in prison – with Mr. Bubba as a cellmate.
However remember, this judge was retired then called back for this trial by Lawfare.
Regardless of this jury’s verdict, it will be meaningless because the judge prohibited all the evidence and expert testimony from being presented. The jury will make an uninformed decision based on a corruptly restricted trial that deliberately excluded evidence/testimony that would have crushed the fabricated case against the President.
Jury nullification is a lawful option for any juror and jury. Refusing to convict a defendant even in the face of clear and convincing evidence they are guilty of the charges. As a message to lawmakers that a law is unconscionable, or a prosecution is selective and vindictive. All it takes is one holdout who chooses to exercise their lawful rejection of a prosecution to hang a jury.
Thing is, most jurors don’t know that. And defense attorney’s are barred from informing a jury of their rights. It’s knowledge that a juror must have before they walk into the deliberation room. They needn’t explain why they refuse to vote to convict an obviously guilty defendant. Just need to have the ability to withstand the peer pressure of fellow jurors to coerce them into convicting.
And if a prospective juror is aware of their jury nullification rights during selection they mustn’t reveal it during screening. No doubt the two attorneys who are jurors know about jury nullification. But what are the odds they’ll exercise it or tell other jurors about it as a lawful option.
Regardless, we must use opportunities like this one to inform each other and then inform others we know. Because we may be called to serve on a jury one day where a Patriot is caught in the corrupt justice system’s crosshairs. And need someone like us to serve on their jury and help protect them from corrupt tyrants.
Supreme Court has the ability to (immediately) review and overturn any guilty verdict against Trump:
https://x.com/marklevinshow/status/1795617859869061334
I agree with Levin and the Lawyer who he interviewed if the jury comes back with a guilty verdict!!! This would be along the lines of Bush vs Gore because we are talking about a direct impact on a PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND A SERIOUS THREAT TO THE DISRUPTION OF OUR DEMOCRATIC PROCESSES!!! 🤔
These demons know that, hence the campaign to discredit SCOTUS so that they can use a narrative of ‘corruption’ to dismiss the ruling.
McCord has already taken care of Roberts, you just know it.
Nah… no one except the extreme leftists believe any of the BS the left media is saying to disparage the USSC Justices.
Alito or his wife flying the flag upside down is merely free speech that means the person that hung it believes the nation is in … dire distress… and the nation is very clearly in dire distress.
Agree! This is a constitutional crisis!
The judge is trying to rope in the jury from thinking on their own. All they have to do is ask themselves what evidence is Cohen corroborating? It won’t take long after that to conclude that Cohen’s testimony is the only thing the prosecution has to hang its hat on.
Treepers: We should make a pact that if this jury comes back with a conviction that we all immediately, that day, make yet another contribution to President Trump’s campaign. It’s one small way of making a statement.
No offense, but y’all should be stocking up on beans, bullets, and bandaids rather than contributing. If you can do both, then do it. But, don’t ignore the fact that under Communist rule people starve, and people die. Just sayin.
They’ll stop at nothing to stop the best president that I’ve ever seen.
Stay away from band-aids. They’re corrupted too. Florine and forever chemicals (PFAS).
https://www.ajc.com/news/health-news/study-cancer-causing-chemicals-found-in-band-aids-other-bandage-brands/XVSHB2OQAZDPDNK6DT4EC5ZDVI/
Co-signed, and have been actively prepping, including military gear, since Covid, and did the financial warfare stuff starting about a decade ago.
However, I did make a bet with my SS check that I’d donate it to the cause if PDJT actually ends up in a jail cell, either now or later. One month’s income, or equal to what I pay in property taxes each year. That’s quite a lot for a poor old guy. Any takers?
I’m suspecting on the basis of WHATEVER that was yesterday with DeNiro and the utter freakout on MSNBC at the merest hint of acquittal that there’s a leaker on the jury who sounded the alarm to Lawfare, hence these instructions. Just my two cents.
The Lawfare people are all lawyers and are watching all of the coverage and probably having daily Zoom meetings or sit downs about the current situation. This is their “solution” for there being NO CRIME. They really don’t care if the thing doesn’t stick on appeal. It’s New York where most judges are elected, and most are Democrats, so appeals are not likely to help at the State level. This is a two-fer. “Get Trump” is part of it. “GET DUE PROCESS OF LAW” is the second part.
Yep. Like Sundance says, the process in and of itself, is the punishment here. If the entire edifice collapses on appeal doesn’t matter to them. I was simply noticing what seemed to me to be a suspiciously timed panic from a wing of the MSM, the White House, and the judge.
That’s interesting VGinny. I was asking myself why and what was that press conference about other than trashing Trump. What did they think it would accomplish? Jury influencing was the only answer I could come up with.
Perhaps the panic is the realisation of how A) its not like their plan has worked out as they intended and B) if they don’t get a guilty verdict, they are screwed.
They ABSOLUTELY NEED to have the “Convicted Felon Donald Trump” narrative to keep him out of the Oval.
Without that, he gets the nomination, is on the ballot and wins it a too big to rig landslide.
With that narrative of “Convicted Felon” they intend for the RINOS to use it to deny PDJT ghe nomination, giving it to RDS, with Nikki as his VP, and then Joe loses and the Uniparty succeeds in keeping PDJT out of the Oval.
So, from their point of view THIS is “for all ghe marbles”..
The jury instructions alone should be grounds to remove Merchan from the bench and disbar him.
He couldn’t care less, he was called back from retirement.
And paid off.
Yep,bet his “second” retirement looks a whole lot more luxurious and affluent than the first one.
If he lives through it. He might be so happy he will have a heart attack.
I hadn’t thought cells were made to that standard….I guess faceboook was wrong again.
“THIS TRIAL IS RIGGED!!!” ~ PDJT
I am so disgusted by all of this! How do these people live with themselves?
May God remove any mercy and protection in their lives. May God protect and have mercy on this sheep in His flock – Donald Trump.
Turley weighs in with some serious-minded comments on the punk Merchan’s jury instructions: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1795799848416952421.html
He has ruled that the jury will not be given copies of the instructions but can ask for them to be read to them again.
…Judge Merchan is giving the standard instruction that they can reach inferences based on facts such as inferring that it rained from seeing people in raincoats. It is a rather quaint instruction after Merchan allowed the prosecutors to state as a “fact” that federal election violations occurred in this case. There is no such violation in this case, but Merchan did nothing to correct the erroneous impression. To carry forward the analogy, Steinglass was just yelling at the jury that there was a virtual hurricane on a perfectly sunny day but the judge remained entirely silent
—I know what I’d be doing, asking for one clarification of the instructions after another. Hope the judge brought some chewing gum. 👍
For several years I have been compiling a list of names of the people who are active participants in the destruction of the country.
Today I added a new name, Joshua Steinglass, the prosecutor in this sham “trial”.
Someday, I will share the list here.
Some will be surprised.
Some won’t.
Keep knitting those scarves….
Madame Lafarge, please call your office.
When the constitution was written in the late 18th century, cities were centers of industry, while rural areas were populated by farmers, trappers, loggers and such. All Americans, urban and rural, were engaged in the productive economy and had a stake in its success.
All that changed, starting in the mid 20th century. Productive workers decamped for the suburbs, while welfare and public housing enabled a permanent underclass to subsist in urban areas.
In specifying the jury system, the Founders never contemplated radicalized, one-party Democrat cities such as New York, carrying out a judicial lynching of a Republican president such as Donald J Trump.
Civil War I resolved nothing. Reconstruction district attorney Alvin Bragg, under Reconstruction attorney general Letitia James, is making a partisan mockery of the law.
Reconstruction president Andrew Johnson was impeached. [So was Trump (twice).] Then a Depression followed, as Lincoln’s worthless greenbacks were re-pegged to gold in 1871.
Abolish the Federal Reserve. Restore the gold dollar. Demolish the welfare state.
I agree that the welfare state is at the root of many of our problems but the longer it exists, the more corporations (think big grocery, Walmart, Target,etc) become dependent on it for their existence and the harder it is to get rid of it.
I agree.
But if we think it’s bad now just imagine how much worse it could be after they put the whole country on welfare in the form of UBI, Universal Basic Income. Then everyone will want to vote for the party that will keep the bennies flowing.
Think how hard it is for a school or university to stay independent in thought, they have to assertively decline government largesse in any and all forms.
It gets harder and harder to climb out of the bigger and bigger Leviathan.
So very true Grocery stores can only survive with food stamps.They are able to buy wedding cakes and the whole banquet if need be.They do it
Unfortunately, wedding cakes would be too rare a purchase in the welfare state.
‘This is not to be the temporary triumph of a political party, but is to endure in its consequence until this whole continent shall be filled with a free and untrammeled people or shall be a nest of shrinking, cowardly slaves.’ – Thaddeus Stevens, Radical Republican, on the impeachment of Andrew Johnson
Retired Magistrate here: As a Magistrate, I conducted two civil jury trials; the attorneys and parties had to agree to me hearing the cases and they did.
Jury instructions are very specific to the type of case being heard and any irregularity in jury instruction are grounds for immediate appeal. My heart is broken over what our “justice” system has turned into-a politicized hit job on your opponent. President Trump is right; even Mother Theresa couldn’t meet those jury instructions for being found not guilty.
We truly are in an era where you are guilty into you prove yourself innocent.
Actually, “guilty until proven innocent” isn’t an accurate assessment of today’s court system. Rather, you are “guilty” if the people in charge want you to be guilty!
Exactly – Orange man bad = guilty.
Guilty as charged and innocence is never a factor. If we’re breathing in this banana Republic, we’re guilty of something and the Communist legal system will be overjoyed to tell us exactly what it is. 👍
There is no proving yourself innocent when the outcome is predetermined by the state and when the trial is only for show.
Hey juan, it matters not what bs instructions you give the jurors. The entire country knows you are a corrupt fraud, that you lack integrity and dignity, and you are a disgrace to the judicial community. You’re not even good enough for a Patriot to wipe their butt with. The real President Trump is still getting our votes, eunuch.
But their State legal system, like the Federal one, is purposely doing nothing.
Put your political opponent in an orange jumpsuit. Order him held in solitary confinement. “Defer” any appeal to June 2025. Have Congress magically declare that “a convicted felon” cannot be President.
“Something very Epstein” then happens in that prison, and nobody saw a thing.
And thus, the coup d’etat is complete.
As people pass by the Mall, they point to the huge pile of white rubble and wonder what once stood there…..
Confused on the 4 4 4 ..Does that mean that 4 of them have to agree on one
charge, then another 4 have agree on another and the last 4 have
to agree on another.
OR as long as any 4 in any combo agree it is unamious.
Any combo. Merchan’s revealed himself to be in a full panic, so his instructions are a desperate last minute attempt to get President Trump on something, anything, at all.
I’ve tried felony cases to a jury, and as defense attorney you argue straight down the instructions. I can’t even imagine how the defense gives a Closing Argument when the instructions offer a buffet.
Why has it note mattered that all theses so-called false records were in the name of Donald Trump, not in the business name? Did he leave himself vulnerable because he had his business employees keep his personal financial records?
If all 12 say Trump was covering up SOME KIND OF CRIME, they do not have to agree on the crime being covered up. As long as all 12 say there was SOME CRIME Trump committed, Trump is guilty.
They can vote on any of the three they agree with and so long as that count is 12, he’s going to call it unanimous. That’s quite the perversion. Lots of democrat voters are really getting annoyed by all of this. I think it would be nice if they all resolved to acquit based on the judge’s actions alone. Sadly, being a democrat voter today is actually a sign of a mental disorder. And I wish I was joking.
Lord. Please send your Angels down to President Trump. Let them cover him with their wings that he shall be protected from the evil that is out to do him harm. With your Grace let him be victorious against the evil that corrupts our nation and banish evil’s disciples.
Amen 🙏🏻
If I understand this correctly SCOTUS has previously determined that “multiple choice” verdicts are not allowed.
In Richardson v. United States the majority of the Court ruled thus:
Held: A jury in a § 848 [engaging in a continuing criminal enterprise] case must unanimously agree not only that the defendant committed some “continuing series of violations,” but also about which specific “violations” make up that “continuing series.”
The opinion of the Court was delivered by Justice Beyer and he was joined by justices Rehnquist, Stevens, Scalia, Souter and Thomas. Justice Kennedy filed a dissenting motion and was joined by justices O’Connor and Ginsburg.
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/526/813/
Then it looks like Merchan just gave the appeal an instant win. It should be an immediate appeal to SCOTUS based on there being existing SCOTUS precedent.
No such thing as “immediate appeal to SCOTUS”. Precedent, for NYS Supreme Court, would be from NYS Court of Appeals (7 judges in Albany).
Unfortunately, that was before our country was overthrown by the communists.
IANAL, but I don’t see that decision as regards 21USC 848 as having any precedent with respect to NY State criminal law and courts. Note that Richardson v. United States decision hinged on the specific interpretation of the statute in the context of federal law. (“If the statute creates a single element, a “series,” in respect to which individual violations are but the means, then the jury need only agree that the defendant committed at least three of all the underlying crimes the Government has tried to prove. The jury need not agree about which three.”)
Not sure how a verdict in this case gets taken to federal court.
So assuming Trump is found guilty (he will be), will they actually toss him in jail for this, or will he be fined?
Maybe house arrest..so he can;t go out and do rallies or campaign..
Yep, with the Secret Service as his ankle bracelet. That wouldn’t surprise me. However, I don’t count it as a jail cell for my bet. He has to go through intake at Rikers or wherever for that to hit. I’ve bet ‘no’ on that.
Given the judge is a psychopath I can’t see him not taking the option to try and humiliate President Trump by putting him in an orange jump suit, shaving his head, and making sure copious photos are distributed to the media.
That’s what psychopaths do when they have power… they throw it around to prove they have it.
Just like Aslan.
NY Law regarding: Conspiracy to promote or prevent election & Falsifying business records
https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2022/eln/article-17/title-1/17-152
https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2022/pen/part-3/title-k/article-175/175-10
So this is all so Biden doesn’t have to debate him?
I wish that was all it was. The stakes are very high. The Republic hangs in the balance.
No.
This is all so that at the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee, the argument can be made to the delegates that;
“We can NOT nominate a convicted felon, we can’t do that to our Party and down ballot candidates.
We want MAGA, fine lets nominate DeSantis, HE is MAGA. And to unite the party, Nikki as his VP.”
And, depending on how many State R Party Executive Committee RINOS were able to send nevertrumpers and DeSantis lovers as delegates, it just might work.
Anyway, IMHO THATS the “WHY?”.
My wife is a delegate, and the Executive Committee had no say in awarding delegates, though of course the executive committee has state chair, outgoing national committeeman and woman as delegates. Every other delegate has been vetted by the Trump campaign. (Our state party had an open caucus vote and DJT was awarded all delegates, at-large and by congressional district per state process approved under RNC rule 16(a)).
Nah, not happening. The Republican Party would be signing their own death certificate if they did that.
This is the only time I ever hoped that Russia would interfere in our country.
From Twitter
Katie Phang
JUST NOW: The jury rang the courtroom. It could be a note. But we don’t know yet. Standby.
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6353890579112
-“Fox News’ Trey Gowdy breaks down the first juror note in NY v. Trump”
🙄
The judge only allowed the jurors to be read his instructions in the deliberating room, meaning that his person will read the instructions…meaning his person will “read” the jurors positions/feelings/leanings, etc. whereupon this person will go back to the judge and inform him what’s what in the deliberating room.
The White House will have “their person” close to the judge’s chambers and others who will interact with the jurors so they can get a “read” on the situation. The jurors will go home this evening, no verdict but they will be inundated with thoughts from others, hoping to “sway” their vote to “guilty as charged” as best they can.
If this goes on into Friday without a decision, President Trump should remove the laces from his shoes.
Biden intends to bring forth the older hystericals to promote his continuation as president…such as Barbara Streisand, Rob Reiner, Jim Carrey, John Ligizemo, etc.. He will also say “no need for a debate now!” if Trump comes out guilty as charged.
Let’s see who–if any, Republicans come forth “actively” shouting about this potential injustice (no verdict yet). Keep your eyes and ears open for Vivek Ramaswamidami (I added that last element “dami” cause I like the way it sounds). Will Mike Pence lay low? Obama will throw a party. And all hell may break loose…
I am hoping for either not guilty (low chance) or hung jury by Friday evening. Fingers crossed!
‘Biden intends to bring forth the older hystericals to promote his continuation as president…such as Barbara Streisand, Rob Reiner, Jim Carrey, John Ligizemo, etc.’ – R.J.
New York proposes. Hollywood disposes.
All the jurors have to do is look each other in the eyes and imagine themselves as the defendant.
Trust God. Fear not.
Mike Pence will be popping the champagne cork if the decision goes against our Lion…
Found in the bin… 🙁
God bless and protect President Trump.
It was we the people that took no action For 50 years we allowed these thugs to tear down our great nation. We were silent when they stole the election. Now they do their dirty work and flaunt it Will we remain silent if Trump is incarcerated? It’s going to get a lot worse.
Twitter update Katie Phang
THE FOUR REQUESTS:
1) David Pecker’s testimony regarding the phone conversation with Donald Trump while Pecker was in the investor meeting
2) David Pecker’s testimony re: life rights for McDougal.
3) Pecker testimony regarding TT meeting
4) Michael Cohen’s testimony regarding TT meeting
On twitter they surmise this is not good sign for Trump
I have read on other sites that according to Fox News two (2, only TWO) jurors with laptops will be allowed to view the testimony and tell the rest of the Jury about the material. Don’t know if this is true or not. However, in countries with functioning legal systems this would be called hearsay and would not be allowed.
In that case, there should only be one chair for the “jury”, and the others can go home….the remaining one can discuss what they’ve learned over pizza and soft drinks after a few weeks.
Jury lawyers probably trying to strong arm any common sense juror.
Waiting, watching and praying.
MAGA, conservatives, patriots and freedom loving Americans are being given the ultimate challenge. When they convict Trump and throw him in prison “watcha gonna do bout it?”
Well, first, pay out that bet I made of a month’s income to PDJT’s cause. Then, call my lawyer and instruct him to suspend all negotiations, as my faith in the legal system will have failed its last test. Then, toss the battle rosary and bible into the backpack and head off to the Green Dragon and flesh out next steps. Then pray.
You?
I’m going to wait and see what happens first. Trump will appeal if convicted; keeping him tied up in court is obviously the plan. In my opinion if he goes to prison for a short stay, maybe a month or two, his polling numbers will probably go to astronomical levels, he will be seen then as a Ghandi like figure.
I’d say you’re likely more reflective of the average Treeper than I am. My beef with the government goes back a couple generations. The rope end is frayed and rapidly approaching. Here’s to praying tomorrow brings all of us some well-deserved good news.
It’s not a trial it’s a setup and the jury are part of it so the odds are more like 75% convict 25% hung. Then what we the people do faced with this travesty of justice will be interesting.
What a country!
It’s a Republic if we can keep it, and that’s being severely tested right now. I think we’re up to the challenge though 🙏
I view the whole thing as the state of NY attempting to decide who can run for President. As if it can veto the desire of the whole country.
Pray, pray, pray! 🙏
Fricking instructions to Jury were illegal…
Only 4-4–4 to convict Guilty…
Isn’t 4-4-4 to convict the same as 8-8-8 to acquit?
It’s all Bullshit.
Never ever heard of such Bullshit Instructions to a Jury.
EXACTLY my point of view!!!
Yes, it’s almost as if it’s designed to be reversed on appeal. The purpose is to convict. The appeal is apparently irrelevant to their plans or intentions. Will the cameras go out again?
Stalin and Beria would be SO proud of this soulless judge
Judge Merchan has millions of dollars at stake in this trial.
Not even Merchan would be this blatant without extremely high pressure directing him to do this.
You and so many others always seem to assume that they are all enjoying this. Only that one weird judge smiling like an idiot actually enjoyed his “work.”
There are exceedingly evil forces at play. This judge could well be simply trying to save his own life and intentionally poisoning the case so that it goes immediately to appeal for reversal.
Nah. He’s all in. Your too decent.
So does his daughter.
Both should be in jail soon!
I will crawl over broken glass to vote for Donald J Trump for President on November 3, 2024!
Unreal. Truly unreal.
The other side has gone stone-cold insane.
They are showing us, to our faces, that they can do whatever they want.
Sorry, I boke the page.
It’s important information though I think.
NY changed their election law after 2016 (when the events in question happened) in order to make what had been misdemeanors into felonies.
If there’s a conviction and President Trump has to don an orange jumpsuit, Hilary Clinton is going to get drunk on champagne and vodka. I can see her laughing her ass off saying “Lock her up, ha, look who’s locked up now bitches”. The image so thoroughly disgust me, I will never forget or forgive what the dims have done and what the GOPe has allowed them to do.
Forgive me for being black pilled, but this all feels, increasingly more each day, like inconsequential nonsense intended for mass distraction and designed to consume all of our energy. Nothing ever seems to get resolved with anything in “politics.” Been this way for a long time, though. Been wondering if there really are any laws in this country? Is the government even real? Will we ever know the answers to any of these questions?
NYC should be charged under the RICO act! And all bridges connecting the city to the mainland torn down and the people living there left to rot! THEY CONTINUE TO VOTE DEMONRATS.
Just HOW do you know New Yorkers voted any which way? There was voter fraud all over the US but not in NY? Or, is this just your shallow way of insulting New Yorkers?
Free money and welfare keep NY’ers slaves, no need for voter fraud. Just got me my free Obama phone and healthcare and everything else. The same reason illegals are coming to America, to get their free stuff from the DemonRats. And this is the reason the welfare queens of America are so mad at DemonRats, the illegals are getting their free stuff.
No need for voter fraud!
As far as my shallow way of insulting NYC. I’m being nice about it, if i were to truly say how I feel about NY and its citizens, I’m sure Sundance would boot me right off this website.
Plus NYC has always been a criminal enterprise and the criminal activity is on going. RICO.
How do you know their elections aren’t as rigged as all of the rest? Chances are good they are and most New Yorkers already know this.
Yep, a lot of NY’ers know it, and they are the good NY’ers their leaving NY behind.
There is no good exit strategy for the conspirators. Their victory can only be pyrrhic. They have no way out. Hoist on their own petard. There is going to be an outcome beyond their comprehension. Literally almost everything they have set in motion has failed. They make Wiley Coyote look good. Trapped in the bunker scared of weight lifting equipment and kitchen knives.
Disregard.
So it is a retroactive law or an ex post facto law.
Ex post facto criminalization is prohibited by Article 7 of the European Convention on Human Rights, Article 15(1) of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights,[2] and Article 9 of the American Convention on Human Rights.[3] While American jurisdictions GENERALLY prohibit ex post facto laws, European countries apply the principle of lex mitior (“the milder law”). It provides that, if the law has changed after an offense was committed, the version of the law that applies is the one that is more advantageous for the accused. This means that ex post facto laws apply in European jurisdictions to the extent that they are the milder law.[4]
So what is it like in NYS? Is it one of the jurisdictions that allow retroactive criminalization? A failed state??
Was the law older than one cold assume from your post?
As Batman once said of Gotham”What this town(NYC) needs is a gooood enema”… and I say ASAP !!!!!
Actually, it was The Joker that said that. Played by Jack Nicholson, the BEST Joker.
i had impression there were 34 counts?
34 counts of what?
Prosecutorial insanity 👍
How many combinations of “guilty” would there then be?
I wish people would stop saying that this will push more votes toward Trump. It will not. People on this site know this is bullshit, just as many don’t and will be swayed.
He will not be able to campaign. Good luck with getting permission to travel if they don’t throw him jail which they will.
I always took everything for granted thinking there was some goodness remaining in this country but RIP America 1776-2024.
I tend to mostly agree that most of the decision has already been made as far as voting is concerned. It looks very much like Trump will win. No need for anyone to change their votes at this point.
They already negotiated with SS as to how they plan to handle Trump incarceration. We don’t know what they negotiated but ANY negotiation is a problem as it was in the Mar-A-Lago raid. It should never have happened.
It looks very much like Trump will win.
Yes, I posit that also, and am unsurprised to see editorials in Commie media positing similar.
The unelected bureaucracy and Congress are working out how to make his four years nothing more than marking time.
That of course presumes the RNC doesn’t figure out a way to quash his nomination and, of course, the deep state doesn’t assassinate him. That’s all still in play too.
I envision, with appeals being filed immediately, PDJT will get restricted movement, at worst, with USSS as his ankle bracelet. The goal will be to keep him from campaigning and raising money. I doubt he’ll end up at Rikers even if they convict and that’s still no slam dunk.
Helluva ride. Hope the Republic survives. 🙏