Let me be very clear about something. FISA-702 authorization expires April 19th. Almost every single person of influence in DC knows the Intelligence Community will not stop exploiting the NSA database, regardless of the expiration.
Meaning, with or without authority, the Gang-of-Eight, Office of the Presidency (Executive branch), Legislative Branch, and every institution within the DC system, all collectively accept the FBI, DOJ, NSD, DNI and DHS will still use the database.
From that perspective, reauthorization of 702 only seeks to make lawful what the IC will do unlawfully without it.
Please think about that last sentence carefully as you consider who runs our system of government.
[SOURCE]
Thankfully, President Trump understands how the FISA system is used as the main tool of the IC to retain power. Specifically, without legal use of 702 authority – and if the IC was held to account for the violations therein – all of the power could shift dramatically in the DC system.
However, key people in congress make money from reauthorizing 702. Think about how those 10,000 workstations are used, and for what purposes over 1.1 million “illegal database searches” could be exploited in Biden’s first year.
Office of Inspector General Michael Horowitz testified April 27, 2023, that more than 3.4 million search queries into the NSA database took place between Dec. 1st, 2020 and Nov. 30th, 2021, by government officials and/or contractors working on behalf of the federal government. These search queries were based on authorizations related to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).
[OIG Testimony HERE]
Approximately 30% of those 3.4 million search queries were outside the rules and regulations that govern warrantless searches, what the politically correct government calls “non-compliant searches.” That means more than 1 million searches of private documents and communication of Americans were illegal and outside the rules.
Additionally, IG Horowitz also admitted that somewhere north of 10,000 federal employees have access to conduct these searches of the NSA database; a database which contains the electronic data of every single American, including emails, text messages, social media posts, instant messages, direct messages, phone calls, geolocation identifiers, purchases by electronic funds, banking records and any keystroke any American person puts into any electronic device for any reason.
If we were in a functioning system of government everything would be stopped and no conversation would be taking place that was not about this issue. This is the total and complete surveillance state being talked about as if we were discussing what’s for dinner.
This was beyond jaw-dropping.
Context: In 2018 CTH revealed through research of their own documents that FBI and DOJ/FBI contractors had done more than 1,000 illegal searches using the NSA database, targeting Republican primary candidates from November 2015 through May 2016. These stunning admissions were from the DOJ’s own reporting to the FISA court.
Few were paying attention.
Although the number of the illegal search queries were redacted, we know the number is four digits from the size of the redacted text. More than 1,000 and less than 9,999.
FAST FORWARD TO 2023 – April 27, 2023,
IG Horowitz outlined that more than 1.1 million illegal searches of this database were conducted in 2021 during the first year of the Joe Biden administration.
Additionally, and perhaps more consequentially, to give scope to how the process of total domestic surveillance has expanded, Horowitz now admits in 2021 the number of federal government employees with access to this total metadata collection system now exceeds 10,000 people.
STOP THE PRESSES!
Yes, congress is talking about this ‘as if’ there is some level of importance. However, the basic questions are not being asked, or have perhaps just become so accepted that legislators have become oblivious to the insanity of it. Beyond the blood boiling questions about searching the NSA database, questions like:
In order for these search queries to take place, there has to be a housing facility to capture it.
Where is all of this electronic data being stored?
Why is all of this electronic data being stored?
Who is in control of this all-encompassing electronic data collection?
Forget the searches for a moment, what act of congress authorized the capture of this private data collection? Essentially electronic intercepts of communication systems that flow throughout our life.
The background context here is congress debating the renewal of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and the power of the DOJ and FBI to intercept American citizen communication and electronic data via the “702” authorizations, that permit the NSA database to be searched and queried.
If the inspector general is now admitting the FISA laws have been so comprehensively corrupted such that 3.4 million searches by more than 10,000 federal employees and government contractors now have access, there is no way that any reasonably intelligent person should support such reauthorization. Even contemplating this request is absurd, beyond absurd.
The United States government is admitting to the public that a total and comprehensive surveillance state is currently in place, and 10,000 federal government agents have the authorization to monitor everything we do.
This is the admitted and current status of RIGHT NOW. And we are worried about ‘digital currencies’ or ‘social credit scores’ sometime in the future?
Have we totally lost connection to the reality of our current condition?
Can you see the insanity of it?… Or should we just ask, “what’s for dinner?”
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BREAKING: DOJ Inspector General ADMITS that the FBI has done 3.4 million warrantless “backdoor searches!”
Over a MILLION of which were in error. pic.twitter.com/t9VcVp4iYx
— Rep. Matt Gaetz (@RepMattGaetz) April 27, 2023
AMEN!
We live in an Illegal Republic where corruption is currency and those with the most invested in the mass corruption complex select public and corporate officers. President down to cartel slave
We haven’t been a Republic for a long time.
It is an oligarchy, just as corrupt and evil as any other in history.
It’s an Illegal Republic
The corruption complex controls the masses through a pyramid of agencies and institutions
See http://www.illegalrepublic.com
literally, to be successful in the Illegal Republic, to rise in the Mass Corruption Complex, you MUST be compromised in sex crimes and treason disguised as international business dealings
if you are compromised, and this is recorded by the IC, then you have an investment in the Mass Corruption Complex
only then, when you are corrupt, will you rise
being corrupt, and having that corruption recorded and facilitated, mediated, by the IC, it helps your career
withness Epstein and the Island and the networks of elites who have skated free and NOW continue to run the world to world war and to imprison patriots and organize an invasion of a globalist militia
https://rumble.com/v4k46vx-your-epstein-blackmailed-criminal-government-nick-bryant.html
https://rumble.com/v4k46vx-your-epstein-blackmailed-criminal-government-nick-bryant.html
We live in a nation that has been slowly taken over by
an incorporated,for profit corporation known as ;
THE UNITED STATES, (all capital letters).
All of our states, most of our counties and ALL
U.S. CITIZENS are incorporated.
From a law dictionary,
Person means an individual or corporation,
partnership, trust, incorporated or
unincorporated association, joint venture,
limited liability company, joint stock company,
government (or an agency or subdivision thereof)
or other entity of any kind.
Lookup U.S. CITIZEN for yourself,
https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?def_id=42-USC-630966247-802284531
Correct your status and let’s finish the job of reconstruction.
I encourage everyone to follow the link,
https://tasa.americanstatenationals.org
The video embedded at the bottom, of Gaetz questioning Horowitz, is garbled, can’t understand what they are saying.
Is it just my phone, or is somebody messing with it?
Mine also..it’s the video
It is weak in volume and the ‘stereo’ audio is 180 degrees out of phase, putting Gaetz’ voice way out to the left of your audio “image”, but once I plugged in an amplified speaker to my laptop and cranked it up, it was decent volume and crystal clear.
They’re messing with it. Mine as well. I figured they were playing games.
Who’s messing? IC? I had to crank up my speakers as well.
Infuriating.
& ludicrous.
Is it any wonder how
“insider trading” or any other illegal acts being done by US government representatives is taking place? We’d be delusional to think access to the NSA database isn’t used in hundreds of different ways to create money and power for those with access
If you subscribe to Tucker it is worth hearing his commentary on this, https://tuckercarlson.com/uncensored-the-fisa-bill-is-dead-now/
Excellent.
You don’t need a subscription to watch the Tucker take, and it is worth the 5 minutes.
Side note: I want to see the Mike Turner sex tapes (can’t believe I just wrote that- eew).
If it’s Mike Turner in a tutu wearing rabbit ears while screwing a basset hound, I still want to see it.
It’s time. He deserves a full audience.
With Turner it very well could be a basset hound. However my money is either a dude, or a minor.
I called my congressman yesterday and told him to vote against any FISA renewal.
If an actual quote (I have no reference either way), it’s my opinion that they responded to the threat during the 11th month
A “Final Solution”. Six ways to Sunday. What Hamas and its supporters want to do to all Jews and Christians.
Off topic.
Distraction much?
Focus on the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
🎯
You noticed too! Nonstop.
It just looks like an equivalency to me. Same values & principles.
it’s almost like he had a death wish. He had been in gov’t long enough (teen when his Dad was the Ambassador to Britain.) he knew the score. Lived in great back pain and had Addison’s Disease, which was perhaps fatal back then. also had the spare and the heir. He was reckless to bait them..just an opinion, I adored Kennedy! Have even been to the old Homestead in Ireland where distant family still live.
He was one of the last DINOs.
Well, as Ron Paul said, we’ve technically been under a coup since they assassinated Kennedy. Seeing everything in that light makes it easier in way, albeit much more cynical.
That’s raw common sense, once one knows “the rest of the story” that we get here.
From Zerohedge (2017-03-09) Said the CIA Was a “Government All Its Own” Which Was Destroying Democracy..
President Truman created the CIA. But in the 1970s, he told his biographer, Merle Miller:
I think [creation of the CIA] was a mistake. And if I’d known what was going to happen, I never would have done it.
Why, they’ve got an organization over there in Virginia now that is practically the equal of the Pentagon in many ways. And I think I’ve told you, one Pentagon is one too many.
Now, as nearly as I can make out, those fellows in the CIA don’t just report on wars and the like, they go out and make their own, and there’s nobody to keep track of what they’re up to. They spend billions of dollars on stirring up trouble so they’ll have something to report on. They’ve become … it’s become a government all of its own and all secret. They don’t have to account to anybody.
That’s a very dangerous thing in a democratic society, and it’s got to be put a stop to. The people have got a right to know what those birds are up to. And if I was back in the White House, people would know.
Be nice if (if Mr. Trump can without getting his @$$ shot off) and when Mr. Trump puts those values back in the White House.
J Edgar on steroids.
I went and read some headlines from this vote and they are all screaming about how 19 Freedom Caucus member thwarted the IC’s dream of legally being able to spy on US citizens.
Out of a government body that has 435 members it is the fault of 19 people who refused to vote on party lines.
Instead they voted with the democrats. Isn’t that called BIPARTISAN. I though the Uniparty LOVED bipartisan votes.
McCain loved to vote with the democrats and was called a Maverick. Why are the MSM all mad at Maverick2024?? Why are they all mad that 19 Freedom Caucus members crossed the aisle and voted with the dems??
Ha ha ha.
So it sounds like all the Dems voted against FISA renewal, and only 19 conservative Republicans voted against it. I’m confused as to why the Dems would vote against it. I thought people like Schiff and others were all for letting the left use it to spy on President Trump, his supporters, and anyone else they didn’t like. Why didn’t the Democrats want it renewed?
My speculation is that the RINOs want to p*ss off their base so much that they do not vote for any down ticket republicans this November thus relegating the RINOs to MINORITY and giving the commie dems the House majority again.
The RINOs need to tarnish their reputations so that no one votes for them this Fall.
The democrats are bleeding voters. They also need to keep their moderate/centrist voters on the democrat plantation. They need their voters to hate the RINOs more than they hate Pedo Joe.
Because it is an election year and they are trying to get some distance between them and the dementia ridden potato in the Oval Office.
Why? Because they know President Trump is going to win for the 3rd time and this time they cannot stop him, without a terrible price to pay.
So, using their definition of “retribution”; they don’t want President Trump appointing anyone in his Administration to do unto them what has been done and continues to this very day to real Americans, especially MAGA.
See how that works?
Sorry, Abigail, but actually, no — I don’t see how it works. I would think that if the Dems know that President Trump is going to win, they would want to keep everything in place to continue spying on him, and on anyone else standing in their way. And as it turns out, it seems the Dems voted to kill FISA, as President Trump said he wanted, and only 19 Republicans voted that way. Seems like Bizarro World to me…
Dem’s don’t want Trump to turn the tables on them and legally spy on them.
Keep in mind, FISA authorization is how they “make it legal”.
Without re-authorizatuon, any the current activity becomes illegal. Just in time for Trump to have to deal with it.
OK, so then why did PDJT say he wanted them to “Kill FISA”? Doesn’t make sense if he would want to use it against them.
BINGO!!! Winner, winner chicken dinner!!!
Election year?
Those that voted with Dems didn’t want amendments added to FISA….like Jordans warrants for citizens…..As it stands now the old FISA will have to have an up or down vote no amendments. So we can basically count on those 19 to vote with dems to extend FISA as is.
Someone here yesterday called it BUYpartisan.
That was a keeper!
Perfect.
💥 agree with the exact wording you used!
Going and coming.
YES!! There are just times when certain wording is not only appropriate but absolutely necessary and correct!
A Free Country and a FISA Court are like matter and antimatter.
They can not exist in the same place at the same time.
Exactly, thank you!
I had a comment section convo with somebody that claimed to be NSA. He bragged about them being able to spy “legally.”
My response? Please point to the section of the US Constitution & BoR that authorizes any US gubmint entity to do any such thing. I’ll wait.
I’m still waiting…
Love Shem. He’s a good dude Excellent thread
And too funny. Walked outside looked up and starlink passing above.
As usual, you hit the nail on the head Sundance.
I appreciate when Sundance utilizes the occasional choice expletive.
Well one question doesn’t need to be asked and that is who are the suckers paying for all this surveillance equipment to be spied on?
Beef.
Maxine Watters did say
—publicly-
that Obamboozler was gettin information (had a data base) on everybody…
-Does she have a serious health condition?
——-
Involta
https://www.involta.com/
——————-
Obamboozler opened
the intel computer system to, Was it 16 or 17? , all Intel agencies
👉🏻the night before he vacated 1600 Penn.
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What is this for?
https://www.datacenterfrontier.com/virtual-reality/article/11427590/meta-is-building-a-giant-800-million-data-center-in-idaho
Speaking of the devil (Maxine)
“Fifteen years ago when NBC and Comcast were merging, their executives had to testify in front of Congress,” Watters continued. “Maxine Waters saw an opportunity.”
“She shook them down and forced them to give
Diddy a piece of the pie. … If NBC wanted the merger to go through, they needed to make Maxine happy, so they give Diddy his own cable network, RevoltTV, and he was grateful” according to the eponymous host.
She didn’t come up with that idea on her own.
Lucian and Clive did.
She DOES have liberalism and Trump Derangement Syndrome, two serious health conditions…
“Who is in control of this all-encompassing electronic data collection?”
The Masters of the Universe.
That database is an affront to our natural rights and needs to be ended yesterday.
Furthermore, I consider that the Derp State must be destroyed!
The FISA court is an affront to the Constitution.
If they changed the name to domestic intelligence surveillance authorization maybe the dumbed down average voter would understand. Can’t wait for the illegal terrorist groups that have already came flowing over the border to inflict terror on our country thanks to our government. The true enemy of our nation. Zero accountability, grossly overfunded, completely corrupt and now insecure fixed elections.
Do you know what the “dumbed down average voter” says about surveillance and the Patriot Act? They say, “I have nothing to worry about because I’m not doing anything wrong.”
The “dumbed down average voters” parrot whatever bs they hear on propaganda news. Fake news and the people who swallow it whole are the reason our country is in such a sorry state of affairs.
They’ve been working on their plan for a looong time. Note the article date.
https://www.northcountrypublicradio.org/news/npr/225381596/booting-up-new-nsa-data-farm-takes-root-in-utah
G00gleWh0re Mike Lee… somehow didn’t have a problem with that.
Oh, WAY longer than that!
The audio was horrible ,,wonder why
And this is why the SS of US must be shattered
Be sure to retire the FISA judges too – they enabled the corrupt warrants and “unmasking” of American citizens.
When people accuse me of wearing a tin foil hat I tell them that I have a whole closet full of them. They are never going to get it.
House blocks FISA renewal.
House blocks bill to renew FISA spy program after conservative revolt – CBS News
The 19 Republicans who voted NO.
SURPRISE: House BLOCKS Bill to Renew FISA Warrantless Spy Program After Push from President Trump – Here Are the 19 Republicans Who Voted to Defy Tyranny | The Gateway Pundit
Chief Justice John Roberts Jr. has named two federal judges—both appointed by Democrat presidents—to sit on secret courts in Washington that review government surveillance applications.
Roberts designated U.S. District Judge James Boasberg, appointed by President Obama to the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, to serve on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court for a term that starts in May…..
https://www.law.com/nationallawjournal/almID/1202642070595/
FISA 702 should not be revised or reauthorized. It should be completely eliminated. I can’t believe that the evil ones are even considering a reauthorization.
If not reauthorized, the citizens of this country win.
The House of Representatives failed to pass legislation renewing FISA
Amid a strong push to “KILL FISA” from PDJT, more than a dozen Republican lawmakers voted against the measure.
19 Republicans voted against their party leadership tanking a procedural vote (that would have allowed for the House to debate and then vote on the bill itself).
Final vote result was 193 to 228.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-sinks-johnson-backed-fisa-renewal-trump-push
Treepers need to start seriously considering that they are wasting their energy trying to counteract the evil of this world.
This world is lost. The only way out is through faith that Jesus Christ will save the INDIVIDUAL (note, I didn’t say “country” or political party, or ANY OTHER GROUP OF ANY KIND,I said INDIVIDUAL).
There will be no political solution. Why? Because political solutions/laws, etc., are the creation of man……who is imperfect, and is desperately evil, absent faith in Jesus Christ.
Quit hyperventilating about all the injustice. Start praying for wisdom. You’ll decide God is in control, not you.
All of the collected data is stored in massive data centers in Utah, and I am sure that AI engines and algorithms will be used on all of that data for whatever purposes anyone wants.
Yes, & you know who is in favor of the “police state” we now live under? A majority of the idiots we elected to represent us, when in fact they represent Donors that pony up the most money. The IC has been turned inward on American Citizens! FISA must go on the ash heap of history & data on American Citizens must be totally destroyed. Period!🇺🇸
I am more than a little surprised and confused that the Democrats voted against this bill? Especially since Trump was vocal against it?
Yes, that is surprising to me as well.
On Glenn Beck this morning one of the congress people he interviewed pushed the bipartisan nature of this vote, naming Schumer and Nadler.
I have to admit, that knowledge has me very suspicious unless it’s all election year optics to use against the moronic GOPe, who couldn’t punch their way out of a paper bag.
A wet paper bag!
If it fails to be renewed, imagine something like East Palestine or the Key Bridge happening, and the IC claiming some terrorist patsy did it.
They have millions of newly arrived illegals to choose from.
The media will happily blame Republicans for failing to renew while ignoring the wide open border.
Are they setting it up by claiming an Iranian backed terrorist attack is imminent?
Multiple federal law enforcement/intel agencies with multi-billion dollar budgets will never have to explain why they missed it.
The rabid left has recognized the power it gives them after Obumble weaponized it. They want to preserve it with zero changes other than what might increase their power.
“From that perspective, reauthorization of 702 only seeks to make lawful what the IC will do unlawfully without it.
Please think about that last sentence carefully as you consider who runs our system of government.”
Well, that’s a start.
As an aside, my congresscritter wasn’t among the votes against renewal. Looks like we have some work to do in my district.
It beggars’ belief that 11 judges can handle 1.1 million cases, much less 3.4 million cases per year. It’s not physically possible. It’s all worse than a scam, it’s all unconstitutional along with being a travesty of actual justice.
I believe it was Thomas Jefferson that said as soon as the elected realize they could vote themselves benefits, it’s over. Pretty much from inception…. he definitely phrased it more eloquently than I just did. Point is, this is the pinnacle of it. Tyranny on deck…..😑
Sounds like that mayor in Illinois. Charging herself a bunch of perks.
April 19th! Hell of a coincidence!
well, my first question is have you actually seen the results of 1 of these “search inquiries”? what type of data actually comes back. hard to believe, given our government, that much information is presented in 1 reports. Secondly, nobody cares, they don’t understand it so they don’t care. lastly, absolutely nothing is going to change until bullets fly and they find their target
House BLOCKS Bill to Renew FISA Warrantless Spy Program After Push from President Trump – Here Are the 19 Republicans Who Voted to Defy Tyranny
Take a look at the photo of the vote counts.
198 Republicans vote to extend and expand FISA
19 Republicans vote against extending and expanding FISA
209 Democrats vote against extending and expanding FISA
Another stunning example showing Republicans are the problem!
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/04/surprise-house-blocks-bill-renew-fisa-warrantless-spy/
Why are the Dems voting no?
Perhaps they don’t want to be black mailed anymore.
they are voting against it because the idiot repubs are for it.
Deadline to renew FISA 702 is 19 April (Patriot’s Day – [irony]). It may seem surprising that Democrats voted to block the bill to renew 702. As I understand it, this nay vote ultimately protects the existing FISA setup, instead of engaging in reform of it.
The nay vote stopped amendments from being added. So the unconstitutional bill remains as it is. On or before April 19, it will be passed as it was, rather than letting it expire. And there will be no reforms made to it.
Got it, thank you.
In the movie “Snowden” directed by Oliver Stone, there is that scene when Snowden is in Switzerland, assisting a CIA agent working on getting a banker to do something – the CIA agent needs a “hook” to motivate the banker to “cooperate” –
so another tech guy is showing Snowden the system where they can look up anything about anyone – they can see the “private” conversations – they can just walk around in people’s lives and pluck out whatever they need as a “hook” – you will notice they are not hampered by passwords or any other so-called user privacy measure.
I’m pretty sure the government is Hannibal Lecter and we’re what’s for dinner. If we don’t change the plot.
there is a poison out here in flyover country called three step. fly bait and coca cola. we feed em three step.
If the IC is going to do it anyway, regardless of what Congress does or doesn’t do, then why bother? Why would anyone in Congress believe they would be exempt? Hell, they all would be priority targets. Idiots, all of them. District of Criminality.
They want to make handing over power to the Surveillance State OFFICIAL.
It gives the ten thousand safety from the possibly of jail.
Okay, but we really know that no one is going to jail, regardless.
Now you know why quantum computing is so interesting to the feds. More and more data needs more and more processing power to index and query. Then add a LLM model on top of a quantum computer with all of our information. Watch i Robot, meet VIKI
Here are the ones who voted against it,my rep Russ Fulcher was not one of them,I will be calling him,
Here are the 19 heroes who defied the establishment and stood with the American people:
Andrew Clyde, Georgia is not on this list!
He just sent me an email!
So, why were most of the nay votes by Dems? I am reading that they blocked this bill to prevent reforms to 702 (no amendments allowed to be added). The nay vote keeps the bill as it is now. A subsequent vote on or before 19 April will likely pass 702 renewal with no changes. Not sure that makes these 19 heroes.
They will keep doing it. That said, if now they have no cover, they can also be prosecuted. That’s 10,000 fed employee’s we can prosecute and get rid of and think of what their confessions might lead to.
did you notice the fact that nobody called it a lie when numerous talking heads called out the fact that fisa was used against trump and page and others? trump laid it out on the tarmac in atlanta today. no dispute from the deep state.
I thought years ago Sundance said that far mire illegal searches than 1,000 or 10,000 occurred. And the $$$ they were making off of it.
We also need Obama out of DC. He’s leading the counter offensive, and we saw that when he went to 10 Downing Street.
“Forget the searches for a moment, what act of congress authorized the capture of this private data collection? Essentially electronic intercepts of communication systems that flow throughout our life.”
This right here is they most pertinent point of this entire issue.
An empty database returns zero search results.
Who authorized the collection of everything on everybody everywhere?
So that it can be searched at their convenience?
Sorry to be rude here, but does anyone know what a “hawk pooey” is ? Almost 15 years after being a Fed, I cannot fathom how many “humans” in the employ of the the Fed, think its A OK to just sit at their computers and search for political dirt on American citizens. Gee. That is Rich. Spy on you fellow American’s just because you want to? That used to be a cause for “YOU ARE FIRED!”
Bring that back again. PRONTO.
Off to listen to the Carlson Post. And hope I get some sleep tonight!
What a job.
“This is the admitted and current status of RIGHT NOW. And we are worried about ‘digital currencies’ or ‘social credit scores’ sometime in the future?”
FISA has been around since Bush. Other methods have been used even longer. Spying on U.S. citizens occurs via 5-eyes partners legally, regardless of the status of FISA. At the end of the day it’s all interception of digital data. Throw in current satellite tech and the prevalence of cameras and you have visual tracking. Throw in the use of cell phones and you have 24/7 geo-tracking, auditory eavesdropping, and visual drop-ins.
All of it is bad – dangerous – and against our basic rights. Thing is that it’s purely observational and it can ALL be defeated, fairly easily in need be, by simply not utilizing the technology. That doesn’t mean it still isn’t important to eliminate as much as possible and FISA in particular, along with the long term storage of data, as it’s all pernicious.
However, CBDCs are a FAR larger problem, especially when combined with the BIS’s “The Ledger” system and their companion Digital IDs. It would allow the tracking of every single transaction involving “money” anywhere and everywhere, which would provide a total record of everything bought, rented, leased, or owned that would dwarf the current observational data base. Then there is the additional and greater issue of complete and total control of all finances, including limiting what it can and can’t be used for, how long it can be kept, if it can be garnered, and where it can be used.
Truth is tunnel vision is dangerous – in either direction back, now, or forward. We can – and should – do multiple things at once. Another of those things – one that we’re one a hair breadths from is an OWG via the WHO’s “pandemic treaty.”
The first answer is a resounding YES, deep and abiding concern. The second in the context of the question is no, not what’s for dinner…
You want to know something? The Eurodollar system, the global monetary system, that’s been malfunctioning since 2008? It’s a ledger system. It’s always been a ledger system since it came into place, officially, after World War II (but it was being built by the global economy between WW1 and WW2). So, these people either want to keep this system going by putting everyone on it or put as many people on it before it goes bust. I’d guess the latter, honestly. The big difference is that CBDC’s are designed to be “programmable money.”
It’s not the tracking that’s the problem. Far from it. It’s preventing you from buying what you want and when you want to what they tell you to. Want water? Too bad, they’ll force you buy booze instead. Want some crackers? Smokes for you instead. That’s the kinda crap this will do. Not to mention it disappearing after a while so you can’t save.
And for all you gold readers/commenters, the telegraph is the start of when Gold increasingly stopped being used for financial transactions for a more fast/efficient way of trading goods/services. So unless gold becomes more liquid/easily accepted as an exchange tool (same goes for crypto), it won’t mean anything.
–“FISA has been around since Bush.”–
Actually, it goes back to Carter. The FISA Court has been in operation since 1978.
You’re correct, 1978. I tend to think of it’s impact from Bush and his use of it for basically warrantless domestic wiretapping, coupled with the enactment of the horribly named (like most bills) Patriot Act.
It has become a communist oligarchy, managed and operated by and thru the delegated rulings of the state. What we are allowed to see is the Potemkin village of what the American founding promised, and then allowed it to be swept away thru the administrative state.
Tucker excellent on this here: https://tuckercarlson.com/uncensored-the-fisa-bill-is-dead-now/
What I don’t understand is why all the Dems voted not to ratify, along with the MAGA republicans. I would have thought that the Dems would approve this…????