Thank you to all readers and members of the Conservative Treehouse fellowship for your continued support. Without your help, this little corner of research and discussion on the internet just could not exist. I will always work earnestly to be deserving of that support and fellowship.
Unfortunately, on an almost exact timeline as previously outlined (maximum 2024 election interference planned), Google and Big Tech have shifted approaches exactly as we predicted they would by mid-April.
They have been unable to take down The Conservative Treehouse over platform content, so they shifted strategies with the spider crawling. We are now under attack by Google Inc. for comments made by you. [see example below]:
You can tell from the flagged notes and highlighted search terms, the spider crawl was given specific phrases to search out. Apparently, Eliot Ness provided them on March 23rd.
This comment by Eliot Ness is being used by Google Inc. to outline a violation of terms of service, and Ness’s threats to violence reported to DHS for operational CTH targeting therein. Note, it is not the content of CTH that is the problem; comments are now the source of infractions that can lead to CTH deplatforming.
You do not need to be a deep weeds thinker to see the issue here. After years of unsuccessfully targeting our research directly, the Google overlords are now targeting us based on reader content. They are turning fellowship into a vulnerability. I am furious and working earnestly to develop a solution.
Obviously, the above comment was deleted and removed, but the shift should explain why so many websites have dropped the comment system completely.
We need your help.
There is a flagging system for the discussion community to self-police. If you notice a comment outside the rules and guidelines for comments, flag it by hitting the flag icon next to the comment. As soon as 20 flags are received, the comment is automatically removed. You can well understand why that feature is present.
I will fight the big tech targeting using every resource to keep CTH from being taken down. However, the process is the punishment in this corrupt system. Fighting these creeps is expensive, and this activity by them takes place at the same time they demonetize us by removing our small advertising funding.
We are fortunate, blessed and protected by a loving God, who has abundant confidence in our ability. If you can help financially, it is appreciated.
Making yesterday’s notifications even more annoying, March and April are the months when all the annual fees for licensing, email notification systems, data security, legal retainers and background stuff associated with the building of CTH 2.0 are paid. Thank you to everyone who helps offset these costs and keeps our voice in the fight.
Financial support through PayPal remains the most efficient and stable way to support CTH. I know they have received a lot of criticism, much of it well placed; however, my own experience with PayPal has been solid. When CTH was deplatformed and under attack from Big Tech (eye of Sauron), to their credit, PayPal stood firm and supported CTH in providing their service. They would NOT demonetize us.
While my experience with PayPal seems to run counter to the outcome described by others, the unexpected supportive position from PayPal made a strong impression on me. Again, perhaps unique, not sure why, but my experience with them has been very good. If that ever changed, I would immediately let you know. The data security and convenience of their system is also solid and useful.
Regardless, there are now two options: (1) PayPal and (2) Proprietary. Due to legal caution and the data privacy construct, the Proprietary alternative has a 30-day access lag built in. Meaning, if you use that option, in approximately 30 days the funds become accessible, whereas support through the preferred PayPal option is immediate.
The alternative financial support appears directly below the PayPal link in a yellow box as highlighted. Some have said browser settings can block visibility, and I have also heard it doesn’t show up on some mobile devices. I am not sure what the technical issue might be other than ISP filters (now becoming more problematic) and/or Adblocking software.
Due to my personal requirements for Treehouse user privacy, and my firm stance on not retaining user data lists, the alternative system does not provide a subscriber option. If you use the alternative support function, each time you would want to support CTH you would have to click it and reenter your information. No data is saved.
Thank you to everyone who helps offset these costs and keeps our voice in the fight…
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We cannot allow this new tactic to win. Guidelines for Comments Here.
Love to all,
Sundance
Done, Thank you SD.
Ditto.
So Google can infest CTH with their trolls … using “cancellation” buzz words … to cancel CTH ??!!!
How does CTH cancel the Google trolls ??
Follow up :
What is stunning – but not surprising about this action – the opposition has given up on countering CTH facts/opinions, with their facts/opinions … their facts/opinion void is very telling.
The Flag button
My thoughts exactly, targeting comments, heaping into the content delivery bucket sounds like a cheap version of censorship. Not to mention the authenticity of the commenter.
But by the use of flagging, aren’t we targeting and censoring those same comments?
Has to be a better way than self policing. I don’t disagree with using it but what if there are 20 or so trolls sitting around waiting to push that button? Maybe 20 flags is not enough. You can’t show flagging or show the count because that just gives the trolls the number they need to take down a comment.
If Sundance were to monitor the “flaggers” and if any certain flagger is flagging too much, it would indicate either nefarious motives or somebody with anger issues. Ether way, we have a problem.
I have seen some horrible racist comments and in the time it took to scroll up and down, refresh, and see what people were saying about it, it was gone. I agree the EN comment used descriptors and language that in most social settings would be rejected.
What if the troll army reads all this and starts posting a bunch of the same stuff just to draw the spiders attention? Maybe it’s time to unwelcome some posters and not approve new commenters unless they meet some civil criteria. A few questions or a poll that rotated so that everybody gets a different test would keep the club focused.
Open ended questions like “What do you think of DJT?” or ” Tell us about your favorite news sources or writers.” or ” In one sentence tell us your views about America” or “what was the color of the Lone Rangers white horse?”
All of this takes more people and work which can lead to a focus more on the bad comments, rather than the excellent content Sundance provides.
Yes, it is censoring comments; that’s explicitly the point. If comments are in violation of the comment policy, “censorship” (deletion) is the correct response. People who want to say things that aren’t allowed on CTH, are free to post them on whatever other site where it IS allowed. SD’s house, SD’s rules.
(And yes, FWIW, I do expect that the mods here would take note if the same group of people start flagging perfectly legit comments in order to censor opinions, rather than actual violations of the commenting policy. Pretty sure mods get to review and “un-cancel” comments if they are wrongly flagged.)
Good point. Never thought of it. I’d say we will self police. Anything we find to be suspicious we should flag.
Done.
I forgot to add a message, here it is.
Thank you very much for all you do Sundance and the whole team.
With love ❤️ and appreciation 🙏🏻
Federales post threatening content so g00gle can take site down–Everybody wins!
Those of us with the type of mindset to read this site for a long period of time know a glow worm when we see one.
SD, I know most will call me an “Old head” like our teen daughter but isn’t there a way I could still send you a paper check?
Remember those things? Sign in ink on the dotted line.
Thus doxxing Sundance and his contributors and adding physical risk and manual labor to their already unimaginably busy days.
We can find ways to contribute without asking them to take on more work and risk.
Yes. Send check to PO box and have the box monitored to see who goes there.
Don’t worry about it. The rest of us will be more than happy to chip in a little extra to cover what you are unable to do. That’s what we do for each other.
I am sure that SD appreciates your concern.
Is it not so surprising that several new names popped up to suggest Sundance both eliminate the comment section and doxx himself?
It’s like they were waiting for this thread to to up.
Fancy that.
Yep. My 👀 have noticed.
Thank you for asking this question, maybe it will trigger an affirmative answer and a postal address. A number of years ago I wrote an email to treehouse asking if a personal check would be acceptable instead of Paypal or cc. I never received a response which was disappointing. However I still would like to contribute to keep this site alive.
Wish I could give more. But it’s done
Here is a handy reference list of words not to use, or if you really need to, please disguise it like you would foul language, but don’t be too obvious, the algos pick up the mispelled words too. (Ex. sh**)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2150281/REVEALED-Hundreds-words-avoid-using-online-dont-want-government-spying-you.html
Well that was my question-does it still pick up certain words if you use asterisks or another character to represent letters?
What a joke 🫣🙄
That is an exhaustive list and you could not mention certain cities…. Too crazy.
No way you can avoid using some words. If Menagerie wants smoking recipes we can’t say pork? or ” I went to the airport today and many flights were cancelled along with major delays due to a local brown out of electrical grid”?
What we need is a few hundred million all in a day keyboarding words like: brown, pork, free speech, Christian, Catholic, Easter Sunday, conservative, USA flag, free speech, God-given rights, etc.
Somebody, perhaps even more than one body actually came out to decry the USA flag with the iteration that “the flag triggers me.”
IMO, if the USA Flag “triggers somebody, that somebody needs to go find a Country whose flag doesn’t “trigger” her/him.
That list sure doesn’t leave many adjectives available.
So what happens if we comment in Polish, or French, or German (or any language that uses standard Latin script)?
LOL. Well, a that’s list that pretty much prohibits discussions about any important issue. They want The View and Tik Tok level stuff.
AI uses what is generally referred to as ‘large language models’. it is a predictive process to choose the next most likely letter word or phrase.
pretty sure the spiders are an AI variant. wish i had a solution to this, but so far i can’t see one soon.
The eternal boot in your face is more and more real.
Rise up, take it to the streets peacefully. <Show> support. The hour is growing late.
Sundance what you do for us is important. Thank you for all the time and research you do for us. And thanks for fighting the enemy. I hope our army is big enough. I myself will never give up
So many vile comments from the left, in print and on mainstream TV. Have they ever crawled the comments in audio/print of James Carville, Kathy Griffin, Whoopi, and some terd-stain who recently mentioned “wet work” to deal with DJT?
Can Google show that they’re targeting all violent speech equally? Absent proof they have flagged and hit any of the host publications with TOS violations coming from leftists, this is clearly viewpoint discrimination.
If not a member of a protected class, presuming a functioning legal system, lately a quite controversial posit, one can be discriminated against as arbitrarily and capriciously as entities like Google/Alphabet or individuals want to.
Nice job you have there. Wouldn’t want you to lose it for being unvaccinated. 🙂
I’m sure folks read the case file on a recent ‘religious objection’ lawsuit against that particular methodology of dismissal. Quite enlightening. Our justice system at work.
Hypocrisy and mendacity, and violence, are cornerstones of Communism. I wouldn’t expect them to be ‘fair’ or ‘just’ or anything reflective of a moral code we might recognize.
Actually that is the most basic way to describe communists. A total and complete lack of a moral compass
They really are morally devoid. The only thing they care about is “progress” and hedonism at your expense.
Their bottom line is POWER. Power to rule over all of us. With their power, they accumulate the wealth of everybody else and divide it among themselves. Then “themselves” get cut down and cut out, making “themselves” even a more elite group.
Actually, their moral compass always points to E, for Evil.
Ouch.
Maybe it’s the browser I’m using, but I never see any bad words highlighted like in the screenshot from SD…
That highlighting is from Goolag, they don’t reach in and reconfigure the site.
Ah, I see, the coloured highlights only shows up in google search results? Yeah, I don’t get to CTH via google search, I go directly to the site…
This isn’t from their search engine, it’s a product of their word-searching spider-crawling.
This is the product they create to justify their demonetization and demonization.
If we have to edit our own comments to make sure we don’t trigger the evil robots, it’s a small price to pay for the Fellowship of the Tree House.
There is no reason for any of us to use certain words and phrases- we can be creative in our language and still get our points across.
As far as Paypal, based on decades of using it for all sorts of businesses and events, I have no problem with it. Keep it simple, make it easy for people to donate.
Sundance- thanks for all you do!
“If we have to edit our own comments to make sure we don’t trigger the evil robots”
Please note that the country that will win in a certain Eastern European conflict is highlighted in the example. Some words to not use are obvious, but take a look at this list which is also linked in a comment above:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2150281/REVEALED-Hundreds-words-avoid-using-online-dont-want-government-spying-you.html
Frankly, I hope these anti-Fascist celibates live a long and fruitful life. (invert meaning of preceding sentence)
Don’t say kill! OR, a rag is on his head type stuff. We all know they could careless about people dying anywhere at anytime for any reason, they just want to control speech. We all get mad and say crazy stuff, when i get that mad i get an axe and chop wood.
I have this feeling, one day (normal) people will boycott the internet. Because it will reach such an absurd extreme people will say enough. I’m old enough and remember the days of no (i-n-t-e-r-n-e-t) no computer sometimes no phone and that tubed up TV did not work. We did not go crazy, we did stuff!
SneakerNet. We just need to figure out where to walk. Start with local community and neighbors.
It’s a fairly useful technique, considering that is part of how homo sapiens evolved.
I will just use the words I used to use before I had to lower my vocabulary to a 3rd grade level, which is what I was told to do when I worked for a “too big to fail” bank, many years ago,,,,I was quite offended with that, I was told I spoke over the customers heads
thank you Sundance for your determination, integrity and strength. When good
people do good things it’s never in vain. Most of us realize this
is not a war of flesh but of spirit and is for keeps. What is happening is timely in that its
asking are you preparing for future days in taking care of yourself/selves?
Being forewarned is forearmed. Peace
Can’t Google spider-crawling be blocked? Does the site really need to be indexed by such entities?
I don’t use Google for anything, and search indexes in general only for product look-ups. I would never consider using such tools to look up news or political issues, and assume they were giving biased resuls if I did.
To get the message out effectively, and/or receive monetary compensation for one’s presence, indexing is important.
I’ll posit that, if CTH was private and blocked public crawling and indexing, it would barely exist and not have traffic even a minute fraction of the 2+ million monthly visits it currently enjoys.
Any one here who owns/runs a web site (I have since 1997) likely knows the realities.
Thank you for that insight, Dunes2021.
Interesting thought, 113.
If not blocked or filtered, then maybe jammed with enough spurious data-hits (transparent to us users) from truly benign verbiage, that their spidey-friend becomes useless? FUN!
Note that justh‘s reference-link above is useful, but contains the terms one sees in official traffic and not colloquialisms like the ‘rag-‘ reference, or acronyms like SHTF. I’ll bet the real list has that stuff, plus things like “patriot”, “J6”, various permutations of “vaccine,” “election” and so on.
My 2 cents
Sending money and prayers!
Can the comment section be placed behind the password protected area where certain stories are placed?
Whose Terms of Service is being violated in the example, TCH’s, Googles, crawler companies?
Trying to figure out why anybody has a right to involve DHS unless DHS does the crawling. Then…geez.
Curious, if Google blocks the site, will it still be accessible with brave ?
Brave rides on the Chrome platform. And who owns Chrome??
GOOGLE owns Chrome! Google and most of the Leftists/fascists own/run the Obiden Administration.
Time to shut them down.
If one doesn’t have to search for the site, search engines blocking it won’t matter. If it’s blocked at the DNS level, then one would need the server IP address. If the site is hosted by a web services company, say like Amazon Web Services, then they could cease to host the site. Last avenue of attack would be if the site were hosted locally, the ISP, its pipeline to the network, could block it from the internet.
We get around this with peer to peer networks using radio and packet wireless protocols; however, that’s moved far afield of a political web site apparently providing information to change hearts and minds. If it ever goes that far and wide, I’d consider a state of war to exist and the internet being controlled by the enemy.
As a side note, real level 4 body armor is heavy. God bless PDJT when he’s wearing that stuff. Dang. Old body needs more muscle. 🙂
Yes it will still be accessible with Brave if Google blocks access. Google is only a search engine. Blocking comes from your ISP or the ISP that hosts CTH or any provider in the middle.
Incidentally, Brave on an older Windows system no longer lets me stop at CTH, since end-of-March.
However Dissenter (also a Chrome offshoot), still reaches CTH.
In other places, CloudFare interferes with other news sites.
On a Win10 system, EBay won’t let me update selling ads with Brave, although FireFox is allowed.
I still miss WeaselZippers which disappeared about a year ago now. They were demonetized I believe.
Just require a password for all posts… problem solved
Agreed
I hope we don’t end up with Captcha. I invariably miss a square with a bicycle or a bus. No sarc.
Donation sent. Thank you.
We must learn to speak in unknown languages. This is incredibly scary. They use a troll to flag words, then use the lie to hammer.
Level up. Pay attention. Be wise. Pray!
Pig Latin? We did that to mess with our parents
Dithigid withige? Ithigi dithigon’t rithigemithigembithiger.
Put the user forum for commenters behind a user id and password
how about Ig-Pay-Atin-lay?
I was wondering about this. Recently this is the only place I go that suddenly has been inundated with ads. Annoying because I use Brave and have ad blockers with my anti-virus software. Thought it weird because of all the sites I go to, this one seems to be the only one affected.
Emotions are high I’m sure, but I’ve always thought that if you can’t say it in public, it’s not a good idea to say here. Also, eyes everywhere and the internet is the closest thing to eternity this side of heaven.
I wonder if it’s platform dependent. I view the site from three different Mac-based computers, including one nearly 20 years old, and have very little to no issue with the site or ads when running Brave or Firefox with extensions. However, baseline Safari, whoa. 😮
End every post with praise for the great president JRB.
Will do $0, SD.
Will Ghoulgle be offended by being referred to as Ghoulgle? Ghouls do Evil, right?…. aka, their new motto!
“Hi,… I am from the Govt’s Ghoulgle,… and I am here to Help!”
Done. Godspeed, Sundance and crew.
*Require registration to post.
*24 hours after registration before a comment can be posted.
*Accounts deleted and IP addresses banned if a commenter repeatedly breaks the rules.
*Zero tolerance for blatant violations of decorum.
When the first amendment is taken away, the second amendment exists to protect the first. This is a fight for the life of this country. Staying silent or using their verbage is not going to get the job done. Speech is the pressure release valve that keeps everyone from going straight to force. Our government is illegitimate. That is a fact. The rest of this is chicken squeeze.
Second Amendment of The United States of America Constitution. There should be no need to flag, modify, strangle, suppress, or stifle speech anywhere, anytime. If there are those who do not like it, they can go elsewhere, stop reading that conduct, stop listening, shut off the device or walk away. This is ridiculous!
Who will flag the flaggers?
I have donated before but I will now update my dormant PayPal account and in a few days will give again. My only regret is that I cannot give an amount to Sundance that even approaches the value of what I have received from him and his staff here in the Treehouse. Especially in matters of faith, I am indebted in ways too numerous to count.
What if you use the Brave browser? Do you have the same result?
Duck-squared is pretty good.
Not really sure this problem is with a specific browser, rather that the spiders/AI simply seach what is printd in CHT articles and comments.and collect usernames,hopefully not email addresses…….
No, Sundance has worked hard to preserve our anonymity . . .
Glad to hear it, but they certainly pick out key words.
No doubt.
The attack on free speech (for Conservatives only) fills me with rage and contempt for these POS Uni-Party leftists! They are trying to push us into a civil war! There is no doubt about that! A direct result of too much money, power and control given to our corrupt, treasonous, unconstitutional, criminal Govt, Global Elites and their bedfellows, Mega Corporations. Hell, hath no fury when it comes to screwing over the man that just wants to be left alone! These evil bastards do not realize the blood boiling rage they are up against! Thank you, Sundance! We love and adore you like no other! You are the night in shining armor for truth and honor amongst our legion or Conservative warriors! God bless you and all the great patriots fighting the evil Blob! We will not fail!
Thank you, Sundance for the warning.
Maybe, when we want to use an word that would be searched and stricken by the PTB, we tree leaves can just insert ***** and the informed readers here will understand exactly what was meant to be said. We will be verbally pure as the driven snow, but all will insert their own interpretation.
We’re not into thought control yet ***** are we?
Before going decoder ring, I think we should continue to do what seems to have worked here from the beginning. All posters must read and follow Sundance’s “Comment Guidelines.” After that, use common sense. It’s that simple.
Snoops will snoop. They always have and they always will. Only now technology has allowed them to become much more efficient at it. That’s the problem and that’s the reason perhaps that manual and electric typewriters are flying off the shelves in second hand stores.
Not a PayPal fan but the payment went thru. Happy to do it.
aHow does one get a password?
Email CTH
KILL THE COMMENTS I can’t live without the CTH!!!
SIX.
CTH is the comments, we have found our voices here and polished our skills, to an extent even Sundance relies on us to provide feedback, to serve as his auxiliary neural net, to crowd source, to report from around the country and the world; the whole of CTH is far greater than the sum of its parts.
Sundance has reiterated his stance on the importance of our conversation here, in this very thread, yet another of you pop up yet again to suggest Sundance cut us off from each other, and he from us, we sustain each other, your call to kill it is selfish and suspect.
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I broke my personal policy of not donating to sites this evening and sent a donation. I have never posted but have been reading for many years. Skeptical at first CTH has become my personal refuge from the “stuff” running around. You have made me think. You have made me aware. You have made me a better person.
Thank you from the heart
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a breath of fresh air just blew through here with your comment. We needed it.
Gpi Nlati or something?
Donation submitted. We’ve got to keep this truth train rollin’…!
Just who is this Eli$& Ne$$
Donation made. Thank you Sundance for being the most independent, competent and honest investigative reporter that I have ever known.
This isn’t a sign of strength but a sign of desperation. They are losing the narrative battle…because they are losing the war for people’s minds.
Support coming as requested. Thanks for everything you do.
That PayPal thing was simple and easy read,
I make my contribution today in memory of Rado the cat who past back when the hurricane hit ,Rado pronounced silverRADO , just arrived and was taken care of kind of like us who arrived and built our tree forts .
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/12/17/rado-thomas/#more-241020
Wolverine s !!
Remember the words of Sundance the spiders cannot detect allegory ,
The community tree
house is the heart and soul of MAGA
One last thing ,Sundance has the courage to put his money where his mouth is ,he walks it like he talks it , we can see this play out when he asks us if we have any questions about what we read , I can’t stress enough how refreshing that is .
And one more last thing ,next Sunday is one if the most important days of the year, MERCY SUNDAY.
Jesus I trust in you.
Found in the bin… 🙁
God help patriots.win.
Donated. Thank you for all you do.
Ban those who don’t want to conform to your -SD- standards. I’d hate to see this site banned because of the examples given. Gotta figure the opposition will corrupt us in all ways.
Done