Unfortunately, as expected the death toll in the Crocus City Hall theater attack has doubled. Russian authorities now put the death toll at 140, with hundreds more injured. The death toll is still expected to continue climbing as rescue workers continue working to find bodies amid the rubble.
This story is a matrix of horror and terrorism. The originators and the motive behind the attack presents as a network of extremely sketchy actors. Do not rush to judgement. Allow the data to surface. Expanded discussion after the facts as presented.
The four terrorist gunmen responsible for the attack were tracked as they fled Moscow and captured in the Bryansk Region of Russia. They were traveling by car southeast away from Moscow toward the border with Ukraine. According to interrogation video {LINK} two of the suspects claimed to be from Tajikistan and were recruited by an unidentified entity in Turkey to carry out the attack.
The claim is they were living in a hostel near north Moscow and were paid $5,000 each (500,000 rubles) to carry out the attack. They were provided the weapons in the Moscow suburb, with instructions to drive southeast to Ukraine for safe harbor after the attack. If accurate and/or truthful, each of these elements creates a datapoint for the Russian intelligence apparatus to identify the source.
The fact that they were captured alive, indicates the people/entity who organized and directed their terror mission wanted them to be captured alive. The fact they were instructed to head to Ukraine, indicates the people/entity who organized their terror mission wanted them to be intercepted en route to Ukraine.
In an address to the country on Saturday, Russian President Vladimir Putin said 11 people had been arrested, including four gunmen suspected of carrying out the attack. President Putin linked what he called a “barbaric terrorist attack” to Ukraine in a carefully worded statement released Saturday. President Putin expressed deep condolences and declared Sunday a National Day of Mourning for those lost.
The terrorists, he said, had “tried to hide and move towards Ukraine, where, according to preliminary data, a window was prepared for them on the Ukrainian side to cross the border.” The Russian President vowed to hold those responsible for the “barbaric terrorist act” to account.
“All the perpetrators, organisers and those who ordered this crime will be justly and inevitably punished. Whoever they are, whoever is guiding them,” Putin said.
“We will identify and punish everyone who stands behind the terrorists, who prepared this atrocity, this strike against Russia, against our people.”
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Unfortunately, there are a myriad of mutually aligned interests who would benefit by provoking Russia into the type of retaliation that can provide them benefit. That’s why we should wait to assemble more information.
The primary geopolitical players who might organize and benefit from the terror attack would be, USA, Ukraine, Turkey and Israel, or a combination therein. Each nation has an independent motive that aligns with the larger objective to draw Russia into a bigger conflict with the “West.”
Whoever told the terrorists to seek safe harbor in Ukraine, wanted to give Russian President Putin the publicly pressuring impression that Ukraine was involved. This is a big datapoint that must be overlaid against the interests of those who organized the attack.
While the Muslim Brotherhood does not like Vladimir Putin at all, the organizer of this attack was not likely to be ISIS-K as the media keep saying.
Keep watching.
Can anyone find volume for these vids? The culprits look Ukrainian https://voenhronika.ru/publ/vojna_na_ukraine/23_03_2024_video_zhestkogo_doprosa_glavarja_terroristov_zhri_padla_zhri_karta_boevykh_dejstvij_na_ukraine_selo_krasnoe_nashe_21_video/60-1-0-15082
Telegram has photos of one with his Ukrainian army documents. I don’t know if it’s doctored, but they are certainly pushing “Ukraine did it” hard over there.
Smells like a CIA- M.I.C. black swan caper to interfere with US 2024 elections.
If one wanted to suspend the ’24 election, and were willing to stage a false flag attack against the US to do it, then blaming a future attack in the US on Russia would look more plausible if it appeared that the Russians were convinced that the US and Ukraine was behind this Moscow attack.
Yes, found the volume. The captured men are speaking Ukrainian, unless they are AI, but the Russian boot in his face looks real
On Zhdge, someone said that it was Tajik.
From Telegram.
https://t.me/intelslava/56486
This Moscow shooting reminds me a little of the massacre in Las Vegas in Oct 2017 that was attributed to an old, out of shape, fat single individual who supposedly used magazine-fed weapons and “bump stocks” to wreak carnage on the people attending the C/W concert below.
The biggest problem — for me — is there is NO WAY one man with magazine-fed weapons could have accomplished all that death and destruction, IMO …
Vegas has never been explained … no real post mortem has ever been published … and it’s been allowed to be quietly forgotten. I guess “what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas” means just what it says, yes ???
But everything happens for a reason … Vegas and now Moscow … and we STILL don’t know the “why” of Las Vegas 6+ years later, do we … ??? I trust the Russians will do better with their “investigation” …
I would suggest all check out videos on the website John E Hoover, a play on J. EDGAR Hoover, who spent 2 years investigating himself, collecting all video released and documents. His conclusions are shocking but I believe accurate. Most don’t know that a secret meeting between Trump and the newly selected Crown Prince of Saudia Arabia was set to happen on the top floors of the hotel, owned and reserved only for the royal family and guests. Here is a example of his findings.
This dovetails with nearly 100% of the “research” I’ve done over the past several years from other “under the radar” sources …
Cullen mentions the three helicopters owned by Saudi Arabia and stationed in Mesa, AZ. (means) There is no footage of helicopters flying about over the area of the carnage that night. Also, a coup attempt for Saudi Arabia regime change by slaughtering Americans in Vegas? This guy is totally interesting but I’m not completely connecting the dots.
However, his podcast details how again, we’ve been LIED TO about the evidence at the scene.
Correction; In podcast #6 (Who shot Brady Cook–an officer responding to the scene in Vegas) there is public video cam that was examined and helicopter activity was sighted–heading from the Tropicana to the MGM Grand) but there was no flight recording of the aircraft.
It still seems weird that if the Saudi nephews were wanting a regime change, WHY would they slaughter a bunch of Americans in Vegas.
I know it is a big ask, because of the volume of videos, but he details in other vids, that a plane switch in Cali at a small airport, had the occupants of Air Force One, switch to a flight that was on its way to Vegas, that at a late moment called ahead to warn MBS. Just a few facts that ĥave been detailed based on his video and substantial court docs.
1. He has vid showing during the attacks, the room paddock was killed in, all the windows in that room were intact at time of breach, but no gunfire is ever seen coming from that room during attack, but the room window is broken in the morning.
2. There is vid evidence showing the blowing out the window in adjacent suite 134, but only eight shots are seen, all coming before the attack and you see the window blown out and falling to the ground. 3. Based on reported court docs, there was no gun shot residue on Paddocks body, or in the room, or on clothing. Approximately 1000 rounds would have been shot. The one bòdycam of police after breaching room, where it is heard one in the room communicating with a street level spotter, not only confirms audibly the window in 135 is intact, but there are no shell casings om the floor consistent with shooting a 1000 rounds.
3. No ballistics was done on any of the guns or bullets to confirm use of any of the weapons having been used in the room.
4. Autopsy reports counted up to one dozen victims having entering of ɓullet at the top of cranium and path of bullet traveling straight down and stopping near the clavicle or exiting near the vertebrae of the neck. Impossible trajectory from the angle of rooms.
Most interesting, the supposed reported ‘ journalist ‘ Jamaal Kashoggi, which is gone into and hos possible ties and desire, was beheaded at the Turkish embassy, if you take into account time zones, was done away with exactly 1 year to the date and time of the Las Vegas shooting. And part of the implication because this was a clandestine meeting, was not just an operation to assassinate MBS, but to take out Trump.
One other thing. The website John E Hoover, on Mr Cullen, whose professional career had him working for Oracle and the father of the COVID dashboard used by John Hopkins and the CDC, has hundreds of videos regarding COVID, his deep diving in the data of public information used to create the dashboards, and was way ahead of the curve of this being used to manipulate the public and that Fauci is a criminal worthy of being charged with crimes against humanity.
Cullen is asserting the LV event was a diversion. MBS was at a hotel nearby where they (Saudi National Guard) attempted to kill him.
The Four Seasons is owned by a wealthy Saudi–Is that where MBS was when an attempt was made on his life?? I don’t recall seeing anything in the news about that at all. And no one reported there was a plan to take out Trump as well. If we’re not lied to they tell us nothing at all.
The U.S. Government refuses, including during Trump’s Presidency, to release all the files on the JFK assassination because:
My thoughts exactly. I didn’t see motive to commit mass murder against Americans.
If there was a mtg in the hotel then why were helicopters aiming at people on the ground.
This coup theory regarding MBS makes more sense than the official BS and coverup of the LV event. I wish we could have a night of a thousands swords here as that is about the only hope we have of saving what’s left of this country. Without a similar round up of traitors here, it will be an even more devastating shift in world power. Not sure we have already passed the point of no return.
I know it sounds crazy, and nothing leads on to believe that not only a roundup is going to take place, but it happening before said election.
Just a prompting in my spirit recently. Doesn’t make sense, but we walk by faith.
I saw this a while ago – about the Vegas shooting.
https://rumble.com/vsif5f-route-91-uncovering-the-cover-up-las-vegas-shooting-scandal-documentary-min.html
I think Vegas was an CIA/FBI informant gone rogue.
Its been allowed to recede into memory because all the victims, white non urban types, dont matter
At the time, that incident, along with the news blackout was the strongest evidence yet that media bias and hatred against the badwhites knew no bounds. Now, you see something that biased once a week.
I agree, Brother/Sister
$20,000 to fund a massacre….did I read that right?
It does not seem plausible, or is it just us?
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I would expect that sort of intel to be spoken by people who are not our friends. ” cough cough “….
Remember, they think we are all stupid.
Well…concerning the current admin…we ARE stupid….
Paid travel, apartments, weapons, ammunition, car provided, training and trainers, intel people to know the venue……..I think the cost was a good bit higher. And it seems that there were 5 men originally.
Ok…make it a hundred thou…hell 200…drop in a bucket
The REAL question…what or who made these guys think that was a bright idea?
Slaughter dozens….who financed that?
Ahem, let’s not over-look the overall employment costs of the staff in the CIA-like — not claiming that the US CIA was actually involved — office of whatever nation was actually behind this, which probably would at least double the above estimate. The $20,000? That was almost certainly untraceable petty cash.
They are nomadic sheep herders, living in yurts in Tajikistan.
It is just the cover story,
Well after they cut off his ear I think it’s hard not to lie.
$5,000 is a lot of money for someone that is desperate.
Isis or not, they will be Muslims….
And you know that how?
Because the US MSM and government says so?
Never quite seen you step out like that one BK….just saying
The US government who protects Muslims tells us it’s the Muslims? Get real!
All due respect, john McCain pictured with isis leaders then years later adam kinzinger photographed with the same dudes is difficult to ignore.
It would seem our government is hiring proxies to attack us and/or change our way of life. It would seem theyre using middle east actors schooled in terrorism to accomplish this.
Most countries do not openly support terrorism, but many predominantly muslim countries do. It isnt a huge leap to come to this conclusion.
What happened on 9/11? Maybe the brains weren’t muslim but the actors were
You think they wanted a two-fer – get American targeting Muslims, while running Russia-Russia-Russia again in election year 2024?
unless they are mercenaries
agree Muslims would be easier to recruit
$20,000 to fund a massacre….did I read that right?…
Maybe the Joebama admin could cease financing Iranian terror proxies while we’re at it…
Fat chance. The Deadly Duo seem to court Iran & wars with end times destruction.
Loves them some Muslim Brotherhood….
Yep!
The British are a prime suspect.
This of course was with American awareness.
They spy for us…we spy for them…A convenient and mutual workaround.
“spy” ==> “spy/interfere with elections”
Joe Biden and the democrats have their beliefs and actions and it is a perfectly definite set, there is no vagueness about it. Word it as softly as you please, the spirit of Joe Biden and the democrats is the spirit of the evil shadowed specter of the Beast of Austria insidiously billowing in and building and building to ever more horrific heights.
See Joe Biden and the democrats rise, and see them spit at the Jew from the corner of their twisted forked mouths. The spirit of Joe Biden and the democrats being in its nature narcissistic and selfish — it is in their line, it comes natural to them — they can fully live up to all of the hate of a Rashida Tlaib and a Iman Omar; for the spirit of Judaism, indeed of decency itself, is entirely impossible to them.
Biden is an idiot…it’s his admin which is the problem.
It’s the puppet master(s) who is (are) directing everything that is (are) the problem.
Whatever you may say, Biden IS a part of it all. He is not the least bit innocent. He is possessed by and committed to doing EVIL! Never EVER excuse him by calling him an idiot.
Concur. I used to call all demokrats “idiots” till I realized that’s just letting them off the hook. They are EVIL, or at least POSSESSED and driven to do evil deeds and say evil things.
some day –and the sooner the better — many of us want indisputable evidence of who exactly they are.
The FJB administration was behind the Nord Stream pipeline terrorist sabotage, and now another terrorist attack against Russia. The FJB CIA is a prime suspect behind this attack.
The Stupid One himself shouted that there would be no Nordstream…Victoria Numan backed him up…
Nuland
There you go again: Biden is merely The Stupid One. Please stop.
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say may……
Screw that. Give it up or you’ll eat your other ear. Yikes
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Yeah, that eas crazy. I guess you dont want to play FAFO with the Russians.
Bck in the 80s I was briefed on a (Putin’s trainer) KGB response to a certain subset of terrorists. Yeah, shove “rights”, they just “responded” and then packaged the results and shipped it off.
The fact they have the choice to remain silent, as opposed to having been silenced, is telling.
If one takes into account the planning, recruitment, logistical and political effort (not to mention risk of reprisal if found out) to bring this atrocity to fruition, seems unlikely these “loose lips” were inadvertently allowed to “tell their tale”.
It is more likely any tale these “loose lips” are telling, is a tale “others” wanted to be told.
Can he hear? With no ears? He can’t answer the questions. Needs one ear to comply….
In order for the Obama cover-up to keep going, particularly with the threat now of a Trump 2024 re-election, Team Obama must keep the Russia-Russia-Russia hoax threat going to in order justify why Obama spied on Trump in 2016.
Bam bams retarded political sibling is screwing things up for him…let Joe be Joe is a pretty good course of action now
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2015/11/13/stars-celebs-and-moscows-second-nobu-restaurant-a50769
Crocus City Mall is owned by Aras & Emin Agalarov.
Mary did you/could you find out what insurance company was involved? just asking for a friend…
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/12/13/the-senate-passes-2024-ndaa-bill-87-13-which-includes-four-month-fisa-extension-and-300-million-for-ukraine/#more-253771
Hmmm…I think this is a bit over the top…the little ‘man’ has gone too far 😛
https://news.sky.com/story/russia-moscow-shooting-latest-ukraine-islamic-state-live-sky-news-blog-12541713?postid=7430409#liveblog-body
Zelenskyy brands Putin ‘worthless’ over concert attack
Volodymyr Zelenskyy has branded Vladimir Putin a “worthless” leader for his response to the Crocus City Hall attack.
The Ukrainian president laid into Mr Putin for staying “silent for a day” before falsely blaming Ukraine in a “completely predictable” move.
The thousands of Russians dying on Ukrainian soil would be better used stopping terrorists at home, said Mr Zelenskyy.
“They [Russia] drove hundreds of thousands of their terrorists here, on Ukrainian soil.
“They are fighting against us and they don’t care what happens inside their own country.
“All this happened yesterday, and this worthless Putin, instead of dealing with his citizens of Russia, addressing them, remained silent for a day – thinking how to bring this to Ukraine. Everything is completely predictable.”
“The hundreds of thousands of Russians who are currently being killed on Ukrainian soil would certainly be enough to stop any terrorists.”
Zoolinsky is a nuland creation…some chalupa and major doughboy tossed in…plus Joe idiot ambassodorship
I’m sorry I upvoted you previously. I see what you are up to now. Buyer beware.
In a few days the hairy little ratlike butcher will be the unelected leader of Ukraine, a de facto dictator, as he has decided not to hold elections like the Uke constitution stipulates.
And it could be coming soon to an America near you
Zelensky’s nights of good sleep are short term. There is going to be someRussian missiles landing nearby to wake him within a short time I’d suspect.
So, now Zelensky is in the news trying to goad Putin into a responding right after a massacre killed innocent Russians. A massacre carried out by people fleeing to Ukraine with a window for crossing established- either indication it was Urkaine or they really really really want you to think it’s Ukraine.
The fact Zelensky is being so vocal draws even more attention to the fact that a 3rd player is involved. As Sudnance said- we need to see how this starts to unfold. The Russians will get to the bottom of it regardless of how the western media or politicians try to frame it.
Helena says it’s CIA & Mossad.
https://helenaglass.net/2024/03/23/moscow-terrorist-attack/
It’s understood
That Hollywood
Sells californication
Recent threats by Israeli Politician.
Pretty clear what he said
You listen
You decide
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‘Russia Will Pay a High Price for Killing Israelis’ – Amir Weitmann – YouTube
☝️☝️☝️ His TV interview —
Israeli Politician: ‘Russia will pay the price’ – YouTube
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Of course, Victoria Nuland, just a few days ago gloating with a mischievous cackle ………. something really bad is going to be happening to the Russians ………….was just coincidence, right?
No…not right
…ain’t she apiece of work?
Yep! Her husband is the director of a Washington DC Neocon lobbyist group called “The Center for the Study of War.”
In reality it’s more like The Center for the Instigation of War!
France and UK have massive motives as well to orchestrate such an attack too
So, I have read every comment posted thus far.
In my mind, we are witnessing Revelation right before the 6th trump.
Of course, 6th trump, according to the KJB, is when Satan returns, but somehow I feel like he is already here… and a pretty busy fellow indeed!
Anyone else?
Iran
Yup
I wouldn’t be so sure. I am not endorsing the evil Imam. But it appears to me that we have plenty of our own candidates running for antichrist
Yep. Since the 70s I’ve seen about 50 (or maybe 500) suggestions as to who the end-of-days Satan or anti-Christ is. Or will be.
@ themouseranuptheclock, respectfully just my opinion.
Agreed, I’ve seen a few of those suggestions myself.
You are completely wrong in your timing. The seven seals have to be poured out BEFORE the seven trumpets. It is obvious that the seals are yet to be opened by the things that will happen with each seal.
I respect and honor your belief and faith in the Word of God. We are definitely in the end times. And those things you speak of are coming soon.
Be ready.
Great point.
As I alluded a few moments ago, Bible students have interpreting Revelation (and Daniel etc) since the 70s. We’ve come a long way baby… and still ain’t there yet. Not quite.
They’ve been doing that for the past 2 millennia. Every time some significant event occurs, someone pops up with “it’s the end times”, “it’s the apocalypse”, it’s Nostradamus’ (pick one) quatrain”, “it’s the Antichrist”, “alas Babylon”, “the Mayan calendar”, “the sky is falling” etc etc.
Satan is the prince of the Air and the god (lower-case) of this earth now. He does indeed arrive on earth 5 months before the 7th Trump and the arrival of our (True House of Israel) Savior! Until then, as Jesus said ‘Watch’! Btw, No Rapture!!!!
Unrelated or not?
Barry at PM 10 Downing.
Flynn, others issue warning about something coming. How does Putin intelligence not hear same rumors & prepare?
Venue is owned by Trump friend. Melania was told after 2020 fix if her husbnd challenges results sec service couldn’t protect her & Baron. This past week media carries Trump assassination stories. Nothing in this attack happened by chance. Venue was selected. Messsge to both Putin & Donald.
Subhuman killers had to have been Muslim. Their disdain for non rabid dog believers eliminates other groups.
Media as always is lying & misdirecting. Any statements that are coordinated by Eng, US, etc are lies.
Organizers wanted these low intelligence Christian hating subhumans to be caught. This is beyond provoking Putin. They are taunting him.
Early on in his Uke campaign Putin made it clear he took out 35 or so bioweapon labs funded by US and his people would not suffer because of the bioweapon program.
We learned in Tucker’s interview what deep respect & knowledge Putin has for history. He will not go down as the man who started WW3. He is too cunning.
Hitler’s 3rd Reich was designed to run 1000 years. It never left, just stayed underground. The Nazi party who’s US bagman was President Bush’s father Preston is back.
I don’t see or feel the Mossad connection here. I might be wrong.
If we are headed for a civil war, the independent states will need help from a foreign power to defeat the American Nazi party in DC: Mr Putin.
Israeli Politician: ‘Russia will pay the price’ – YouTube
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crapola.
Here is the full interview
with transcript ..
“We will make sure Ukraine wins as well and we will make sure Russia will pay” – Amir Weitman – YouTube☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️
for some reason it keeps
being pulled down.
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He is Likud political party..
I’ve been checking a number of pro Russian sites and the “Russia will pay the price” video was on all that I inspected.
I had the link
to the RT interview
viewed on their channel.
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Seems that YouTube
is doing its best to
take it down.
I posted it earlier
today..and when
you click on that
link…it is Kyiv Post
video interview of
him….totally different
interview🙄🤬🤢🤢
Go figure 💁🤷♀️
I did mass links to
friends and family
after I watched it.
I will have to contact
them all tomorrow
and see if the original
link works or if they
now have the Kyiv Post
video.
I didn’t get the story
from pro-Russia site…
I am more inclined to
believe it is independent
news and word of mouth
and viral posts that have
spread the video.
😂😂 A cover up always
means something.🤔🤔🧐
I think there was a firestorm in Israel for his saying this
In any case, it’s not a shared sentiment in Israel and he spoke only for himself, and stupidly.
I agree & I pray that’s true. Israel is also being subjected from within by the woke lunatics and I’m hoping this idiot was simply mouthing off his stupidity.
DJT cannot win in Nov w/o aid & cover from a significant intelligence entity. An entity that can provide the same blocks and protections that Mercer did in 2016. Mossad is the only entity that comes to mind.
This is not a threat
America Politician: ‘Russia will pay the price’ – You Tube -countless times.
i saw a commentator on a Sky News video about the Irish PM stepping down, which was within 24-48 hours of the Obama video. He claimed that their was if not an in person meeting, a conversation beforehand. In addition, something we don’t hear much bout here, go figure, is that in the UK. Obama and his foundation are the tip of the spear in instituting and integrating AI globally. Just one of our esteemed candidates for antichrist.
The timing for this attack seems wrong for Israeli involvement. Israel is too busy with Hamas, Hezbollah and the Iran orbit to be getting taunting Russia. Russia could, through Syria, add another layer that Israel would have to defend against, and Gaza might be proving a bit more expensive than they expected. This smells much more like CIA/MI-6
I and find no logical or strategic reason for Putin to help Americans no matter what happens here. He’d also be going up against Chinese interests to do so.
He doesn’t want the balance of power in all of N America to unify. If / when the fascists in DC eliminate MAGA and the Constitution all of N American unifies as one arm of the Chinese with policies structured by radical Islam. Russia needs more than her allies in the ME to stand a chance for survival. We’re talking holy war. Russia doesn’t want US Christian culture destroyed.
The culprits look like Sirhan Sirhan or James Earl Ray or Lee Harvey Oswald.
The culprits look like all the sad lonely losers who cause most of the troubles in human civilization.
We are continually dragged down to the level of the worst among us – that is why conservatives want walls to save us from the evil that awaits.
the DOJ/FIB/CIA are inside the walls.
…point, set, match.
“…. sad lonely losers…”
That’s precisely what THEY (the Deep State perps) want you to think! No, it’s far from that and you just bought the sucker’s too easy solution of “losers” when it’s really the none-too-bright yet clever and horribly EVIL people like Nuland who are behind this!
In Hamlet they were known as Rosencrantz and Guildenstern.
“The culprits look like all the sad lonely losers”
Yes.
If you pay someone to commit heinously unspeakable atrocities, and then afterwards expect them to get shot or fragged, you would not be recruiting some wealthy preppie precocious kid from the good side of the tracks somewhere in Virginia. That’s for sure.
Check out BaklyovLive. He is a Russian who lives in St Petersburg and does walking tours in many cities in Russia. Today he posted the videos of the ones who were caught and also the way these people were tracked. H also plays Putin’s address to Russia. Tomorrow will be a day of mourning for the victims. One sates explicitly that they were promised 500,000 rubles ($5,500) each to do the shootings. 50% up front, 50% later. All negotiations were through Telegram, the internet there. So someone found these people, promised to pay them, furnished weapons, resources, travel, logistics etcetera. You should listen to the entire episode. He also explains that they tracked the escape vehicle immediately but let it go so they could see where it ws heading (and IMHO to see if they could find the “higher ups”). Also he , Sergey, is not pushing Ukraine and is taking a wait and see attitude. But realistically, if they were Islamists, then they would not have been paid money (but 70? virgins in heaven for jihad), and they certainly would have fought to their collective deaths.
$5500 for what they did is beyond ridiculous to believe they were offered or accepted.
$5500 is a LOT of money in most of the world. But yeah, there has to be a more to the story.
He’s providing a Russian perspective. I am interested in how the Western media portrays the day of mourning. I am also interested in how much information that will be coming out of Russia they censor or turn around and lie about.
Details matter. The details that we have learned do not paint a picture of ISIS: paid- more so paid via installments, still alive, fluent Russian the one guy speaks in the interrogation video, and….
For me, if it’s ISIS, where are the body cams? Where are the go-pros? Where are clips of them using the videos to mock the victims? Where is the broadcast of the ISIS leader (whichever one gets the nod) taking credit for it? These are things ISIS does and they do it quickly. None of that has surfaced.
No IED vest? These people were supposed to be caught.
Correct. They were the organizers’ patsies. If this had been a slick job they would have disappeared and avoided capture or Jack Rubied.
Not all Islamists fight to the death …hundreds of the 7 Oct massacre perps surrendered and are in Israeli prisons hoping to be exchanged for the hostages, many others rot in Guantanamo.
Sundance is at least partially right. Too many misleading vectors right now. Fingers pointing everywhere. Wait for the dust to settle …and even then, we may never know.
“7 Oct massacre perps surrendered”
Did they claim to be ISIS? I thought hamas claimed responsibility.
Give us some examples of Isis mass murderers that surrendered after killing a hundred + civilians. I get the impression its exceedingly rare. And not just one surrendered, all of them did.
One of the reasons people
question Israel…
This is Amir Weitmann
and his interview…..
part of Israel political
Likud party.
“We will make sure Ukraine wins as well and we will make sure Russia will pay” – Amir Weitman – YouTube☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️
Listen for yourself….
Ya you’ve posted that about five times. Nobody knows Amir Weitman and a nobody shooting off his mouth is little proof of anything.
There are many suspects, many countries or terror groups who want to kill Russians. They have lots of enemies.
and he said it in oct 23. not recently like vicki the warthog….
just sayin’. i personally really admire the people that can wait to gather info before shooting off their mouths. Kirby was exhonerating Ukraine while the building was still burning w captives inside, instead of offering condolences from the USA.
what the heck?
have a blessed day everyone
crapola. I don’t trust you. Shumerite?
I see you keep posting this, I went to look him up and read his posts, this is one angry politician who is pissed off with Russia. I see why he is pissed off but I doubt that Israel, even if justified, would make that move at this time. Also, I believe he said this back in Oct immediately after the hamas attack. He writes about Russias part in helping hamas, hezbullah and Iran.
We must remember Russia was once the Soviet Union and those guys were bad boys. They ruled over a large slice of earth and all those STAN’s over there still hate them with a passion because of how the Soviets mistreated them. A lot of people over there where made slaves to the Soviet Union!
We be looking at a new cold/hot/cold war with Russia. I remember do you?
No such thing as a Cold War anymore. Its lone gone. NATO is at war with Russia right now. It is very, very hot.
As NATO continues to loose, panic is setting in. NATO and the US are flailing about and striking out in every direction.
There is no telling what they will do as the losses mount. Anything is possible.
We be looking at a NEW cold/hot/cold war! Over look that did you. Almost 40 yrs. of my life was under the cold war, Vietnam being a big part.
Look, until we ‘all’ realize GOVERNMENT’S plural all of them are the enemy we have no chance to change a thing. Who dies in their wars, who dies from their evil plans ‘covid’ and the like, WHO?
My guess is that we are starting to see the CIA 2024 election strategy unfold. Obama was in the UK recently and the US was warning of a imminent threat in Russia.
How would starting a war help anyone in our election?
Before, has anyone ever ‘wagged a tail’ (saber rattled, or created chaos) during an election year?
p.s.
If peace was the goal (by the cowardly, coy, selfi$h, nefariou$), then the last 2 years of the corrupt ukr situation ( since 2014, and manmade tragedies for 2 years, 2022, 2023 ) did not need to happen –
and would not have happened (proof is in 4 years 2017-2020, Trump etal leadership,
despite the (so called intelligence com) media hyped hoaxes in the u.s. that lacked verifiable facts.
If…
(sarcasm intended)
‘If’ a frog had longer legs, it would not bump its tail, each time it hopped.
(sarcasm ended)
(a frog already has long legs, it’s tail bumps each time it hops)
hmmm…
“Prove all things,
hold fast to that which is true.”
-As roman soldier, christian persecutor Saul, whom turned a new leaf and became unselfish, believing Paul, eventually a Saint, wrote to the Thessalonians 5:21
i.e.
‘do not take any wooden nickel$’
-more simply from a wise, sage grandfather 40 years ago,
Love thy neighbors
You aren’t nearly creative enough. How do you steal an election with a pandemic?
During the 2020 elections, Cornpop seemed oddly unconcerned about polls, campaigning, bad press, optics or any of the usual things that political candidates are usually anxious about, particularly before a big election.
Joe and his handlers aint behaving like people that are concerned about sleepwalking the US into a major war.
Wow…. I think someone wants to start a war. The powers that be, do not care one bit for every day, you and me on the streets. WE all need to get ready for what is to come. Be READY and pray it does not come.
The war, called WW3, you speak of started in 2014 in Ukraine. When the US supported coup overthrew Ukraine’s neutral government. It is far from being over and is slowly escalating in Israel/ Mid East, and Asia.
You are right about the PTB not caring. All they want is War, War, War. to feed their bloodthirsty gods
Sounds like another Biden regime failure
A new suspect for planning the attack. I picked this up from Andrei Martyanov’s Blog.
FWIW
“Fresh post by Marat:
Terrorist attack in Moscow: Tajik trail leads to the British
London took out the old skeletons from the closet
The monstrous tragedy at Crocus City Hall has very deep roots and far-reaching consequences. We will return to them more than once. But today, let’s talk about where the attack came from this time. And let’s try to trace its genesis at least approximately and understand that the main enemy is throwing against us, if not the last forces, then certainly playing the trumps that he held until the last.
Two days after the bloody attack, there was such a general opinion in the Russian political and intelligence community that the United Kingdom, or rather Mi6, was behind the terrorist attack. It’s a very similar handwriting for this organization.
It is an indisputable fact that all the major terrorist attacks in Russia of the post-Soviet period from Beslan to Dubrovka had a British trace in one way or another. The terrorist leaders who directed the militants were recruited by Mi6. And in some cases (like Basayev and Khattab) they openly collaborated with Mi6.
In contrast to this opinion, Britain has thrown out an obvious blank in its top media: a certain organization Vilayat Khorosan (a branch of the Islamic State operating in Afghanistan) is behind the terrorist attack
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For experts, this approach clearly speaks in favor of the version that in this particular case it is the Englishwoman who muddies the waters. Here we must immediately say that the story is not easy, and it is very difficult to understand it from scratch, so today we will outline only some of the features.
In its heyday, ISIS was a collection of tribal gangs united primarily on the basis of funding from the United Kingdom. Both the bandit ash-Shishani (a native of Georgia, Batirashvili) and his replacement, Tajik Khalimov, were direct Mi6 mercenaries.
The scope of ISIS’s activities, as a proxy for the British, eventually became so serious that it began to interfere with US influence in the Middle East and Central Asia, and the UK had to partially scale back its operations in order not to anger the hegemon. And for a while, all these terrorists in the service of Mi6 went into the shadows, some were even declared dead.
They have started to surface again since the US withdrawal from Afghanistan. That’s when the ISIS from Khorosan appeared on the scene. But in fact, a number of Pashtun tribal leaders are supported by the British. They are the only ones who agreed to fight the Taliban. This is the key point.
Here we are entering the difficult geopolitics of Central Asia. Most countries in the region support the Taliban’s efforts to pacify Afghanistan, hoping to ensure their security in this way. All except Tajikistan. Who cannot find a common language with the Taliban due to the fact that a number of organizations operate under their wing, which are considered terrorist in Tajikistan. It was on this split that Britain played all these years after the Americans left the region, trying with all its might to prevent the establishment of peace in Asia.
To do this, immediately after the US withdrawal, the recruitment of ethnic Afghan Tajiks began in the Vilayat Khorosan gangs. That is, President Rahmon, who is very sensitive to this issue and considers the Tajiks to be one of the largest divided nations in the world, began to show that ISIS Khorosan is like its own. And by joining the support of the Taliban, he is betraying the interests of the Tajiks.
In other words, by pointing a finger at ISIS Khorosan, which, I emphasize, at the moment practically does not exist as an organization (there is only a certain community of tribal gangs), Britain is trying to openly drag us into Asian history. This is another attempt by the British to impose problems on us in the rear after Kazakhstan.
But this is only part of the game. The second one is no less interesting and more explicit.
The political support of the very leader of ISIS, Tajik Khalimov, has always been the Islamic Renaissance Party of Tajikistan. It has been declared a terrorist organization in its homeland, and since the early 2000s, guess where its headquarters are located?
You guessed it – in London, after the flight of the Amer from Afghanistan, the British fussed over the Tajiks and in 2018 created the National Alliance of Tajikistan in Warsaw on the basis of this party, where they tried to cram the remnants of all Tajik thugs who survived after the defeat of ISIS. The alliance was headed by such a figure Kabirov, who walked hand in hand with Khalimov all his life.
The point of creating a new organization was simple: The West was losing the war in Syria, and it was necessary to establish the traffic of militants from Tajikistan. NAT served as a single window where Britain contributed money, and Kabirov and Halimov were engaged in the export of Tajik “meat”.
It must be said here that Khalimov has been nominally considered dead since 2017, but there is also a second opinion that he was simply “removed” into the shadows after the Americans turned on ISIS.
However, what does all this have to do with the events at Crocus City Hall? Patience, dear readers. We’re almost to the point.
In 2022, with the beginning of the SVO, the so-called Jabhat Al-Shamiya brigade appeared as part of the mercenary corps in Ukraine. Or rather, one of her detachments operating in the Aleppo area. This detachment is led by a field commander (Tajik by nationality), Khalimov’s right-hand man. All that is known about him is that his nickname is Shusha, and he is a history teacher by education.
There is a version that this is one of the many relatives and cousins of Khalimov. I will not talk about the combat path of these Tajik Basmachi in Ukraine now, there is also something to talk about there. Jabhat Al-Shamiya was one of the main recipients of British money allocated through the National Alliance of Tajikistan.
And here (attention!) a month after the failure of the Ukropsky counteroffensive (perhaps a little later at the turn of October and November), Ilya Ponomarev, the political leader of the new Vlasovites, and the political leader of the Tajik terrorists Kabirov met in London. After that, a number of other meetings were recorded in Warsaw. Already at the level of functionaries.
There are some interesting details of these meetings, in particular, who supervised them. But more on that next time.
And now we see a coordinated attack in Belgorod by new Vlasov fighters, and in Moscow by Tajik militants. I think the affiliation of the arrested terrorists to the National Alliance of Tajikistan will be confirmed one way or another soon.
Why go to NAT? It is known for certain that recruitment (on the terms of payment for roads and lifting) in Russia is carried out by the National Union of Migrants of Tajikistan, a member of the alliance, which is also considered an extremist organization at home. And so do we.
This very Alliance ensures the existence of a network of sleeper agents from Tajikistan in Russia. Agents are primarily in the hands of Mi6, because needless to say, this Alliance was created in the 2000s under the direct leadership of the British.
In other words, the UK began to put together a united terrorist front against Russia as soon as it became clear that the counteroffensive had failed, and ukropia was doomed. And, moreover, in her traditional manner, she tried to frame or incarcerate the hegemon. Obviously, the hegemon did not like this, and he tried to warn Moscow. At the same time, trying not to give up your closest ally. Although, to be honest, even from this story it is clearly clear that with such allies, the United States does not need any enemies.
But that’s not all. There is also an opinion in our political and intelligence community, which is not widely spoken about, but it is there: the British showed blatant amateur activity, and now everyone is frozen in anticipation of a showdown between the allies.
And Russia’s first serious reaction to the terrorist attack has already followed (although perhaps this is a coincidence): Our representative at the UN, Nebenzia, said that Russia would not recognize Zelensky as legitimate after the expiration of his term of office. And since you are nobody in our eyes, it is possible that immediately after X-day, Hitler Zelensky will be demonstratively denationalized. Unless, of course, his Brits finish before then.
In anticipation of this glorious event, let’s hope that Budanov (a direct Mi6 agent) and Ponomarev (an even more direct agent) will soon go to the judgment of God. It’s time, it’s time, the devils are clearly waiting for them in hell.”
While I don’t know if the above analysis is correct, I do know that the British have been active in the “stans” stirring up trouble in the region. During the Kazakhstan coup attempt back in January of 2022, the Russians were all over the incident and had troops on the ground in a very short time. In a number of the articles I read at the time, the Russians actually named the British MI6 agent who had orchestrated the coup attempt.
So we might want to add the British to the list of suspects.
Of course, if the CIA was involved, and I feel that they were, then Mi6 was also involved. I think Putin alludes to such things in his address when saying something about well-known acronyms other than ISIS being involved, and they know it. I did not listen to a translated version; I have only read summaries, so if the synopsis is incorrect, please correct me.
I mentioned in an earlier comment that it would be interesting to see how Western media keeps framing the story.
Tajiks are ethnic Persians (most of the other “stans” are populated by Turkic peoples), yet are Sunni instead of the Shia sect of Islamic faith shared by most Iranians. ISIS is a Sunni clans based terror group created by the US. If these triggermen are ISIS the US government organized this. Ukraine and NATO are defeated, leaving acts of terrorism the only option left to the US created and sponsored fascist Ukrainian regime. The nationalist Ukrainian regime has been shelling civilians in Donetsk and Lugansk since 2014 attempting to break their will to separate from the reactionary and utterly corrupt western Ukraine. The US Embassy in Moscow recently warned US citizens of impending terror attacks in Moscow, as did Nuland warning of unpleasant surprises for the “Putin”. Our incompetent government has gone too far in their attempt to carve the Russian landmass into compliant and exploitable regions. They have reaped the whirlwind and we common people will pay the costs. The US has become a state sponsor of terrorism, creating an axis of evil with the degenerate European failed vassal states.
The US has not become . The US is The Worlds Largest state sponsor of terrorism, Terrorists kill small groups of people.
The US destroys entire countries along with their populations.
Further proof that Barry is the face of the Muslim disintegration of the US. 100 years ago the most underrated president in US history, Cal Coolidge said (paraphrase): The business of America is business. 100 years hence, Barry’s transformation of America is to a Muslim minded state exporting terrorism. Now, the business of America is corruption.
“The primary geopolitical players who might organize and benefit from the terror attack would be, USA, Ukraine, Turkey and Israel, or a combination therein.”
If one wanted to suspend the ’24 election, and were willing to stage a false flag attack against the US to do it, then blaming a future attack in the US on Russia would look more plausible if it appeared that the Russians were convinced that the US and Ukraine was behind this Moscow attack.
Just curious…..how does Israel benefit??
Sundance,
I don’t understand how you can be certain that the entities behind the attack (and I agree it’s unlikely that it’s ISIS) were expecting or hoping or planning that the terrorists would be captured alive?
From that assumption, you make various suppositions.
Assuming that it wasn’t calculated that they would be captured alive, how would that change your hypotheses?
My own prejudice is that the CIA /USA was behind it.
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ISIS was sponsored by oblahblah
…and the Muslim Brotherhood
Let’s pray that the trail doesn’t end up with the numb nuts at Langley.
Sundance,
I don’t understand how you can be certain that the entities behind the attack (agree it’s unlikely that it’s ISIS) were expecting or hoping or planning that the terrorists would be captured alive?
From that assumption, you make a list of the most likely bad actors.
Assuming that it wasn’t calculated that they would be captured alive, how would that change your hypotheses?
My own prejudice is that the CIA / USA was behind it.
P.S. I would like to know the reasoning behind adding Israel to the list.
This kind of terrorism is such an immoral act, it would be out of character for Jews (as a group, or nation) to countenance it.
I personally think Israel should drop the USA government / Deep State as an ally (the USA government has never been a friend to Israel) and approach Russia / Putin.
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About immoral acts or thoughts and their authors:
Let’s remember Madeleine Albright for who she really was
The former US Secretary of State, who once publicly admitted that she thinks the deaths of half a million Iraqi children were ‘worth it’, was no force for ‘democracy and human rights’.
100% of mass shooters are chosen and groomed by the CIA.
I like Sundance and CTH, it’s the most reliable American source online, imo.
However I don’t understand why Sundance mentions Israel as a possible beneficiary of a terrorist attack on Russia.
Personally, I think Israel should attempt to ally with Putin, as opposed to the Biden-Obama communist government or, in fact, any of the USA governments.
Past or present, they have all acted as Israel’s enemy, though they all claimed otherwise.
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FYI, such a terrorist attack is so immoral, I can’t imagine Israel contemplating it, even if it yielded a great strategic advantage.
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Israel does these types of attacks all of the time. The Zionists are not our friends. America (not Israel) first!
Because you can’t discount any probable hypothesis at this point. As SD said- there are too many who could try to benefit from this type of event.
Ambivalent towards Prime Minister Netanyahu. But:
Are Israeli intelligence agencies to Netanyahu as American intelligence agencies to President Trump? 🤔
Remember the riot on Dagestan about the planeload of Jewish evacuees. It was reported here (I think) that it was organized by an anti-Putin Russian, resident in Kiev and working with Western intelligence agencies. Such co-operation is at least plausible here considering that faction of ISIS is also hostile to the US.
See Eye A all the way ! If those captured tell the truth, they will get the Oswald treatment.
When Putin speaks to culpability and punishment is he referring to individuals, institutions, organozations or countries?
Yes.
And you know this how?
When Putin speaks to culpability and punishment is he referring to individuals, institutions, organizations or countries?
Through what decision-making and verification process?
Through what methods?
Toward what objectives?
Lot of atmospherics at the moment. One obvious objective of the string pullers in all of this is to undermine Putin: his ability to protect the Russian people is now suspect in the eyes of many Russians; as a consequence, to some degree (it is basically an autocracy afterall), he is being pushed into escalatory actions.
Whose purposes are served by this? There are many beyond just nation states (including climate change wackos, multiple NGOs/large corporations (e.g., agriculture), WEF, etc) with a vested interest.
How does the urgency for recent Ukraine funding fit into all of this?
Why the clearly deliberate intention of instigating simultaneous wars in Europe and the Middle East?
How does the recent positioning of German, Brit and Polish forces fit into all of this?
Why the sustained effort to weaken the US military since Biden’s election while promoting bellicose world events?
Why the timing co-incident to serious domestic (US) escalation of public discontent with border policy consequences in an election year? Btw, side bar, why, when everything is said and done, did the National Guard roll over like a patsy in TX? Abbot playing games? Just thinking out loud.
The chess board here is multidimensional.
Another country that could benefit is Russia itself. Remember 9/11, and the draconian legislation the Deep State was enabled to enact via the Patriot Act, and a police state emerged from the ashes. Every County received funds for armored vehicles for use in combating an unwieldy populace.
Russia, Putin, would receive a mandate from the populace to finish the job in Ukraine.
“The Job” is not about finishing Ukraine. Ukraine was finished in the summer of 2022. Russia is fighting NATO, not Ukraine.
The job is to finish NATO. That takes time and strategic planning. Putin has Russia’s full support in achieving that goal.
Putin does not need a false flag like 9 11.
USIC
Seems quite a bit of very convenient info is surfacing conveniently easily.
here’s probably a better way to say that.
The fact that we knew ahead of time and have said we warned Russia….wreaks of the same crap when the FBI always seems to know or have been watching those who perpetrate acts here. But of course….the FBI is always just a bit late! Let’s see now….who blew up the Nordstream pipeline?
“Putin faces some NASTY surprises on the battlefield this year” ~ nasty nuland, 2/22/2024 [ru.embassy.gov]
“Nuland resigns” > thrown under blinken bus, 3/05/2024 [state.gov]
“Americans in Moscow, avoid large crowds” > 3/07/2024 [ru.embassy.gov]
“Anglo-American War on Russia” documentary series by Tales of the American Empire
Samatha’s last hurrah, perhaps?
Whatever the Western media is telling us the exact opposite is where you will find the truth. They couldn’t tell the truth if their lives depended on it.
“Believe nothing you hear, and only one half that you see.”
– Edgar Allan Poe, 1845
This attack has the smell of Victoria Nuland all over it.
With plenty of plausible deniability built in. She is no longer at the state dept so Russia can not blame her and the state dept tried to warn Russia so Putin can not blame the US.
The Russian singer known as Shaman has just released a new song as a act of remembrance for the victims of the attack.
I want people to connect some of the dots to the October 7, 2023 massacres in Israel, the March 22, 2024 (322) massacre and the coming April 8, 2024 solar eclipse false flag which the Department of Homeland Security has been prepping for two years now. Each meant to escalate WW3 which we’ve been told they’ve already had going since 2019. CUI BONO?
“We’re already in World War 3. We are already in conflict that extends so far beyond Ukraine, actually, even within the context of Western Europe but we’ve clearly been pretty much at war in space, uh below the surface of the oceans, submarine warfare between super powers, uh, I’d even say this has been happening for at least four years, [since 2019] and it’s spilled over into public view on the ground, uh, but we don’t “frame” it that way.” ~ Philippa “Pippa” Malmgren (Economist, Former U.S. Presidential Advisor) statement at the 2022 World Government Summit in Dubai.
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I believe Russia will get to the bottom of this ‘terrorist’ attack. Who paid for it? Who planned it? Who is really at the bottom of it? I, like many others have my suspicions. In time, and not very much time, we will have the answers. If this attack has its genesis in the West the Russians will exact retribution without mercy. I hope that is not the case. It bothers me that approximately one hour after the attack the US State Department issued a statement, stating emphatically that Ukraine had nothing to do with this attack. How the hell could they KNOW that?
American diplomacy under this administration has been so inept as to be laughable. The problem is that many people are dying. Most Americans are just plain clueless as they sit on their asses in front of their cable TVs. The ONLY thing we have going for us internationally right now is propaganda, propaganda, propaganda. All the rest is pure fantasy…..
We’re due for a wake up call…
Censorship wins….I’m out
I lied…lurking and reading…
Better yet….reading and lurking….
Nuland is a problem….she and her kind…retired my ass..her influence still reeks