As expected, the goofy Judge Arthur Engoron gave a ruling Friday [FULL pdf HERE] ordering President Trump to pay nearly $350 million in penalties for “business fraud.” However, without any victim and with the banks testifying on behalf of Donald Trump, who exactly is he supposed to pay?
Obviously, President Trump and his lawyers are appealing this ridiculous judicial ruling. All the banks and lenders did their own due diligence on financing terms with Donald Trump. This judge genuinely is goofy.
All operational loans and Trump Org. business loans were paid back. There were no defaults or banking interests adversely impacted. There are no victims of what the New York State calls “fraud,” yet this judge has decided President Trump must pay $350 million in damages and must dissolve business interests in the state for a period of three years.
NEW YORK – […] In addition to the penalties aimed at Trump himself, Engoron imposed measures that may significantly alter the operations of the Trump family business, known as the Trump Organization. Engoron banned Trump’s two adult sons, Eric Trump and Donald Trump Jr., who are executive vice presidents of the company, from running New York companies for two years and fined them more than $4 million each. And he ordered a court-appointed monitor to continue overseeing the company’s operations for another three years, requiring the company to seek her approval prior to submitting any financial disclosure to a third party. (read more)
350 m to who? There are no damages.
Engoron will add even more insult to the already egregious injuries by giving the money to Thug Lives Matter, some migrant NGO or the DNC.
This is just more evidence that whatever Democrats hold, they corrupt.
This ruling, of course, is not based on law, but on Democrats insistence that Trump be rendered unable to run for reelection. With this they have RINOs complete support. But I’m stating the obvious…
If it happens at all…
Most will go to NYC to help support the illegals, my guess only
This is the funding source for all the cash cards for the illegal invaders !
reportedly the NY Treasury
Kathy Hochul’s account at the beauty parlor.
it will take more than this amount to fix anything on her
The treatment isn’t working – she needs a refund.
Texas. Please send 1 million illegals to NYC
Fugly witch needs all the help she can get!
“We don’t care if any laws were broken. Trump is guilty because we say so.” The haughtiness, arrogance and self-importance in leftists is on full display.
New York – what a hick a$$ state.
This is just plain racketeering.
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Issue. Specious use of “civil” law by government to circumvent constitutional criminal law due process and protections.
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Exactly!
Can they now bankrupt these businesses which they have under their control?
You smug little pea brain! You’re an idiot! Hey judge, is this your little 15 minutes of fame? Trump will overcome your ridiculous ruling! And to throw his sons in your ruling is beyond the pale! Have they even had a chance to defend their cases? What’s the charge(s) against them? This is a classic example of abuse and over reach that all new first year law students should digest. What an f’in fool you are and you call yourself a jurist! I have a great deal more to say but I’m biting my tongue trying to be civil.
You’re in good company, Gary, re: every syllable of your remarks.
And he’s fugly as heck
He looks like a character straight out of G&S 150 years ago:
“Though all my law be fudge,
Yet I’ll never, never budge,
But I’ll live and die a Judge!”
Makes one want to be a judge. Have a “sidekick” nearly on your lap all day and can’t see her hands. Sick sick sick!
I was talking to 3 democrats today and we all agreed on one thing: the people need to put down their bickering over little things that don’t really matter, come together and rid ourselves of the ruling elite in this country. Even they were fed up with the way things are going. An old Mexican lady in her 80s said we need a viva Zapata, a revolution. She made another interesting point; the drug cartels are wreaking havoc in our country because this is where the market is.
Look for ways to bring people together. Draw comparisons that we all can rally behind. Enough of the separation. Our common enemy is the elite in government. Many of them prefer their enemy to be multi-national corporations. Tell them to read the Treehouse to learn more about how these globalist systems work and who benefits and who loses. Common ground. Together we fight and win. Divided we fail and fall.
I’ve always thought, and made the point a few times here, 70 to 75% of people could agree on 75 to 80% of core issues while agreeing to disagree on the remaining.
Fix the core stuff we “all” (not the core 20 to 25% of people who think Biden is a genius) agree on – leaving the 25% of things to tackle later through civil discourse.
It is easy to get people to agree on problems; harder to get people to agree on what the correct solution is. However, this is one of those rare times when that’s okay. The immediate need is to get rid of the problem (the ruling elite) and then we will have the freedom to argue about what the solution is (republicanism, capitalism, socialism, Marxism, whatever – but all the real believers in any of these recognize that the ruling elite is none of these; they are just hypocrites).
Well, close. The one thing no tyranny can stand against, is UNITY of the populace, in withdrawing consent to be governed.
TPTB can deal with an armed 20%, charging the ramparts, they are fully prepared for that.
But, 90% of the populace, peacefully saying, with word and action “NO, we will NOT comply” totally destroys any tyranny; they have no responce but to withdraw.
Hence, their only defence, is to pre-emptively SEW DISCORD and DIVISION.
And so thats what the elites do; encourage the people to divide, according to religion, race, ethnicity, Republican/Democrat, it doesn’t matter to them, so long as people are divided.
Get them argueing over the weather (climate change) trans foolishness, stolen elections, heck if they could, they would have us dividing up, according to the color of our CARS.
So long as we are fighting each other, we aren’t UNITING to fight THEM.
“Hence, their only defense, is to pre-emptively SEW DISCORD and DIVISION.”
And people fall for it everytime.
We have a Constitution, written by a group of people that did just that.
The remaining 20– 25% are in the Obama/Biden administration or receiving money from them. Or… They are from a foreign country benefiting from the policies the current administration is rendering.
Go watch The Chosen.
Excellent point, agree 100%
Most Liberals, however, are completely insufferable
it starts with realizing the media is lying
have they figured that out yet?
Ever notice the FIRST thing that Marxists do when they attempt a take over is to occupy the TV , radio and print media…most cases it’s done by force. In this case it was done by corporate power..do to the corporate media the same thing that was done to Bell Telephone..BUST THEM UP IN A MILLION PIECES.
This must be our FIRST step…then…NO MERCY.
True! The current media is one of the first things that has to go.
And who or what, gets this money? No victim, who gets the money? The state? The lawyers?
They will NEVER get a dime of this corrupt political lynching. This creepy little troll should be DISBARRED!
NY Treasury
Why is that asswipe still breathing?
Dog whistling? Poke Poke, why won’t they (MAGA) do something? Maybe because we are not a roving band of randomly violent thugs. Just a thought.
Correct, he is a Charmin!
I would have said, “who will rid me of the troublesome” judge. but good question.
New York is sliding into the abyss.
Sliding?
The perfect example of a spiteful mutant. A complete psychopath.
Heard a remark on this “judge”…..”if a yeast infection had a face”. Touche’~
I agree completely with other commenters that wealth and businesses will be fleeing New York post haste.
So, why does the deep state want wealth and businesses to flee?
They will backfill citizens with illegals, but what will they have access to with all those pesky businesses and landowners gone?
Access to our fresh water Great Lakes? They’ve already taken over Michigan, too, especially in their no-go-zones up there.
I love Trump. I do…. BUT, I am always leery when someone makes over-the-top gestures to push me into a certain direction. They know that when they crucify Trump, MAGA ground swells.
Why are they pushing us? What do they want?
Watch out for our LAND. My Spirit within me is screaming to be alert and to stand ground. Unfortunately, I didn’t realize what was happening sooner, because I lost ground. Don’t lose your ground.
https://web.archive.org/web/20230829061441/https://www.epa.gov/greatlakes/facts-and-figures-about-great-lakes
Thank you for posting this . I live on Lake MI.
Something tugs at me to be really protective of our water.
“The Great Lakes are the largest fresh surface water system on earth, covering over 94,000 square miles and holding an estimated six quadrillion gallons of water, accounting for one-fifth of the world’s fresh surface water supply and nine-tenths of the U.S. supply. More than 30 million people rely on the Great Lakes for drinking water, accounting for 10% of the U.S. population and 30% of the Canadian population. The U.S. Great Lakes maritime economy supports 311,000 jobs spanning every sector, from tourism and recreation to marine transportation.”
coast.noaa.gov
The Deep State doesn’t care about the effects of this ruling, they are afraid of Trump… that’s all there is to it. The repercussions are simply not something they care about.
Just like when the Dems in the US Senate changed the rules so a simple majority could elect judges. The Turtle warned them that this would come back to hunt them…so Trump put three SCOTUS justices and a ton of federal judges…
For all of their long term planning, the American Progressives and the Deep State can often be extremely shortsighted when they are angered or threatened.
tonyE,
I believe this is all theatrics to maintain an emotionally charged and exhausted public. They don’t fear Trump… they are using him as fear-inducing “example”.
If a prosperous, popular, wealthy man can be so heinously harassed… what hope would a poor commoner have against such onslaught?
They are using Trump to subdue us and to terrorize us.
So what do they want?
What is it that they are going after that they do not want the public to retaliate on?
It’s a Machiavellian tactic and I posted the key that I think it is on an earlier thread about the dispossession of land from “The Prince”. What is the only thing that truly retains value. Land.
They’re taking our land. The earth. It’s resources and they’re preventing us from yielding from our own resources, so who are they saving them for?
I have had the same feeling myself, that this ostentatious persecution of Trump is no longer a stabbing out in blindness. They know it only makes him more popular, that’s been well established.
Which leads to the question of what exactly are they trying to accomplish? It’s not just a surface thing, here. There’s more going on, I fully agree. They are playing different levels of chess.
“They” are playing a VERY dangerous game…indeed for keeps….including their own lives.
It is up to US to see that they pay accordingly….NO MERCY
If not “us” then who? If not now, when?
Desperate people do desperate things. Count on it. A Trump win means prison for most of them. Keep your powder dry.
And who, may I ask, is going to put them in prison?
oh please, prison is not the answer. you cant surround and confine a bacterial infection.
don’t kid yourself
they have no clue what will happen when
people leave
They want kinetic.
“Why are they pushing us? What do they want? They are trying to push us into a civil war so they can declare martial law and no 2024 elections turning the USA into a dictatorship.
They already have destroyed much of it with the help of the farming using glyphosate (Roundup) for the crops and spreading the waste zones from the north west and East funneled down through the rivers and tributaries into the Gulf basin.
It’s a red zone of cancers as well, for some unknown crazy non-relatable to the chemical farming that has stripped the nutrients out of the food supplies.
And that poor debacle under the 0bama administration with the EPA breaking open the Gold King Mine into the Animas River.
And oh so many more mishaps.
Everything they did under the 0bama administration is the same things they picked right up where they left off when they installed Joe Biden.
This has been going on in many forms for a very long time.
Think Agent Orange and defoliation. Minor tweak and it’s ready for home use. Add in the Roundup and people are spraying their yards and homes yearly and more for Science!
Then the whole geothermal engineering and how it has been factualized since the 70’s. NASA reporting on how to vaccinate and or seed the atmosphere with particles to mass spread their product. Let alone just regular daily toxic dumping into the water supplies that have levels of medications and chemicals throughout the ecosystems (including whales as an example). All are poisoned by the very system created to keep the people safe.
And you can follow the same tracks of people connected through greed and control. They turned the world upside down and the people believe it is normal. Much like psychological torture and warfare.
to devalue property so BR or other bastion of the WEF can scoop up all the previously premium properties in the city? and do what? make them “smart” prisons?
I am SO angry about this! The Soros money against a legitimate President must end!
So when can we sue Judge Estrogen for $350 Billion?
Making these Psychos feel Lawfare is the only way for them to stop using it.
This is the key…HOLD THEM TO THIER OWN RULES…..NO MERCY. Make the punishments’ PUBLIC…We need to send a message of our own.
The gentlemen in the mural behind the Fools at the bench would know what to do to fix this travesty and miscarriage of justice.
Make Tarring and Feathering Great Again
NO, swing from lamp posts is most apropos!
just a reminder:
IF THEY CAN DO THIS TO YOUR PRESIDENT, THEY WILL NEVER HESITATE TO DO THIS TO YOU!
Understand this.
Think this is overstated? Think again.
Examine just how many NEW LEGAL THEORIES HAVE BEEN MANUFACTURED IN JUST THE LAST 5 years. Really think about these cases and what they mean to you.
election fraud legal cases.
ballot eligibility
702 and USA freedom act (your rights to privacy and security)
banking regulations (how the fed will track transfers you make and how much and to whom)
2A right
Right to health/vaccine mandates
Border Security
Religious freedom
Right to Work/Right to express your own unique ideas and opinions
Censorship
Chevron Deference
this is a short list. In each of these major issues there is a WAR IN THE COURTS. The corruptors are creating NEW LEGAL THEORIES to remove your liberty and freedom. This is about control, power and money. Congress is moving new legislation or expanding existing legislation that is also institutionalizing removal of more of your liberty and freedom. These are no coincidences or results of natural evolution of social order. THIS IS ABOUT CONTROL, POWER AND MONEY.
and you ain’t in this club. You are the target…President Trump is the target because he is YOUR CHAMPION. Never forget this reality. President Trump would have never been assaulted in this way, if he had simply decided to stay away from politics. Understand this with perfect clarity.
He is a target precisely BECAUSE HE THREATENS THE CENTRAL SECRET POLICE SPY STATE THAT IS RUNNING THIS COUNTRY.
Challenge accepted.
We will have our Champion and we will win.
KNOW YOUR ENEMY.
AND PRAY
God Bless America
Exactly 💯 regitiger
From your comment…
⚠️”THEY WILL NEVER HESITATE TO DO THIS TO YOU”
👉”CENTRAL SECRET POLICE SPY STATE” indeed 👈
Your comments are always informative and in a thoughtful way calming – I am team Trump and we will WiN!!! Thank you regitiger👍💪❤️
Trump will never be president of the USA again. It won’t be allowed to happen.
… said to scary background music. It’s all over! PDJT is toast! (for the hundredth time). The cherry on top –the dreaded passive voice “It won’t be allowed to happen.”
The future is unknown. We’re each responsible for what we do now in the months leading up to Nov 2024.
I am so appreciative of fellow MAGA standing with PDJT and the America First movement by being as proactive and resilient and determined as he is every single day. Black pilling helps not at all imo.
It will but all the authentic R’s are stepping down from Congress, so he will be largely impotent.
I’ve noticed the opposite — a lot of McCarthy loyalists are retiring.
But more MAGA are running for office. We’ll see –the Congressional primaries are critical –we all need to get out to vote in MAGA reps in the primaries.
There is no such thing as an “authentic R” – I am sorry to report.
Are “they” in the room with you right now, Spider?
To presume omnipotence is to grant omnipotence.
Donald Trump is always talking about what the “Marxists” are doing to him.
Who knew that one of them was “Harpo”!
It.
And progs will hi-five each other celebrating this “justice.” Progs are the enemy, whether D or R. It’s either them or us, be sure of that.
Hope this gets to the Supreme court. Who gets the money. In the mean time Trump should ask for his 4 years of salary he did not take because he is not greedy
If you view this less as a political jab at Trump, but more like an insidious beginning to the state taking over private capital….ie, Marxism…it makes more sense.
New York is a sanctuary state. As a sanctuary state it is committed to “taking care” of all immigrants, legal or not. New York can claim that Trump and his organization(s) defrauded this class of welfare recipients.
maybe they want his buildings for their “new constituents”?
The judge isn’t “goofy.” He’s evil. Put him up against the wall.
Agreed.
This is a state committed crime against the people. Get ready for worse things to happen much faster now.
If this ruling stands, it will set a dangerous precedent. Wake up, people. Your property rights no longer exist.
It won’t stand. At some point in the appeal process they start to reach judges who take the law and constitution seriously and get annoyed by this nonsense. Unfortunately, in New York, it may take some time.
“its not about property, it is about liberty”.. Thomas Ayer
And “justice for all” really becomes a myth.
SAD.
How declaring Trump guilty before the trial even started as per James’ request, refusing to allow defence testimonies and declaring himself a CRE assessor to evaluate Mar-A-Lago as cheaper than a Hollywood single family home would survive appeal is beyond me. In a red state Engoron would be lucky to only be removed from the bench and not prosecuted.
Must be withheld of o2
“goofy” is a cartoon
this judge is EVIL
also, is this the case where the state changed the law so they could
charge President Trump?
there are so many cases I cannot keep up
(I would put an LOL after the last sentence but it is not remotely funny)
The Carroll case is one where they changed the statute of limitations to allow her to claim the sexual assault. Maybe there are more?
It is hard to keep up. I think this is the case where they stretched the definition of fraud to include whatever the leftist, extremist, radical partisan hack in robes said it was, even if no one was ever harmed or complained.
The bankers he defended should give him an interest free loan as collateral while his case is being appealed. They made 300 million from his business dealings with the banks and I think the bankers should help bail his ass out
Interesting idea. I’d add that real estate developers are expressing huge concern about the threat to them if the ruling stands. (NY Post interviewed one –too lazy to find yesterday link)
Maybe they would all chip in to cover the bond and cost of appeal.
but… never pay the Dane geld.
No comment as I don’t want to be arrested or banned.
Ridiculous,what a nut job !
Guess everything will be about appeals 🙄🫣
what’s the motive for this judge? Is someone blackmailing him? Is there dirt on him somewhere? I’m sure the dirty Weissman and Obama lawfare persons are behind it with the goal of stealing all of his resources so that he is unable to fight back or campaign.
There is a special place in Hell for these evil people.
The motive is to stay in the club that hates Trump. Nothing else matters. Otherwise, they have no standing with the so-called “elite.” I know real people like this. It defies logic but completely aligns with TDS.
“Judges have no immunity from prosecution for their judicial acts.” ~ Bradley v. Fisher, US 13 Wall 335(1871)
“Judges may be punished criminally for willful deprivation of . . . rights on the strength of 18 usc 242.” ~ Imbler v. Pachtman, US 47 L Ed 2d 128, 96 S Ct
LII U.S. Code, Title 18, Part I, Chapter 13, – 242 – Deprivation of rights under color of law” . . . makes it a crime for any person acting under color of law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom to willfully deprive or cause to be deprived from any person those rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution and laws of the United States.” . . .”shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.”
Per the above, with human effort, law, and time, it looks like a repeat of the after affects of the ‘ol Salem PA. witch hunts is on the current horizon for some people.
In the meantime, the backwards progressives are hiding behind a word cloak of defending ‘our democracy’ while their actions are the opposite.
Imho
Their democracy is different than ours. Their democracy is the institutions and govt. agencies that they run to control us and our money.
They don’t want that democracy torn down in a revolution…….by us …who want our Constitutional Republic back.
mirror land for progressives – what they accuse PDJT of, they do
every claim of our democracy needs to be met with the definition: democracy is 2 wolves and sheep deciding what to have for lunch.
Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this kind of insanity without stacking bodies?
I think they’re going to fill Trump Tower with illegals against the Trump’s will and they will decimate the value.
If I were Trump I’d bomb it and all my businesses in NY
Yes.
This judge is nothing but political against president Trump,
he is a clown,
I want to know why NY calls this a judge! A syphilis riddled freak is much closer to his description.
They are stealing Trump’s property by using lawfare…we are no diff than Russia due to 0bidens illegitimate presidency. We should all send Trump $10.00 (75million X $10 =)
Elections have consequences and stolen elections have catastrophic consequences.
BidenBrokeItAll
How can I help Mr. Trump? Where can I send my share of $$ to help?
Donate at DonaldJTrump.com —-Note you can donate to either the campaign or the PAC or combo. You can pay by credit card or mail a check.
I believe the Save America PAC (not the campaign fund) can be used to pay some of Pres Trump’s legal costs. I’d have to research to know more details.
This really has to stop
These demon possessed cretins are getting so absurd that they almost have to be controlled. Either that or they have gotten other worldly desperate.
Controlled or put down.
When his (egoomoron) time comes…he will burn in hell!
I’m sure his name isn’t written in the Book of Life.
Was Eric and Don jr also defendants? If not, how can this judge make any kind of ruling concerning them?
Yes they were, and ordered to pay about $4 million each.
President Trump needs to sell all of his properties in NY State, incorporate and move his headquarters to either Florida or Texas. Get the hell out of that Communist sh-t hole! It should have been done as soon at he left the White House, more specifically when he decided to run for President a third time. However, I do feel this case will be overturned on appeal.
“goofy Judge Arthur Engoron”
Goofy? Sundance, you are clearly too kind and complimentary.
The Trump organization should give the corrupt state of NY what it wants and permanently pull out of the state, let they try to make up for the lost tax revenue.
The verdict in the case was never in doubt, it was a foregone conclusion that the biased “judge” was going to rule against Trump.
Sundance,
Love ya, but really, WHAT THE HELL IS GOOFY ABOUT THIS COMMUNIST PIECE OF STOOL?!?!?!
GOOFY?
It’s just not funny man. Not funny at all. This communist piece of stool needs to be treated as what he is.
GARBAGE. UTTER HUMAN WASTE PRODUCT AND A WASTE OF BREATHING OXYGEN AND A SOURCE OF POLLUTING
CO2!!!
Calling him GOOFY is absolutely offensive, as if ANYTHING about this effing COMMUNIST PIECE OF
SUBHUMAN STOOL IS FUNNY.
Love you and your site SO MUCH but calling him, calling it, the scum….GOOFY…is OFFENSIVE.
He needs to be locked up, disbarred, and never allowed to approach the bench anywhere, ever again.
I just cannot imagine how this will not be overturned on appeal as the Appellate division already DISMISSED
THIS CASEON STATUTE OF LIMITATION GROUNDS!!!! WTF!@$%^!#(*%#(*()!#$%&*$!#*^&%@!(@
HOW IS THIS EVEN STILL AT TRIAL!!!!????????????????????????????
But WHO KNOWS WHAT THESE COMMUNIST PIECES OF STOOL RUNNING THIS, WILL THREATEN THE
APPEALATE JUDGES AND THEIR FAMILIES AND CHILDREN WITH TO GET THEM TO COMPLY WITH NOT
TOSSING THE CASE FOR THE EFFING GARBAGE THAT IT IS!!!!!
For that matter who knows what they threatened JUDGE GORGON (YES GORGON!!!!!!) with to get him to do
this garbage to our Donald, but I suspect judge GORGON is a true believer communist scum!!!!
GAH()&*~#^&*()!#%&*)!#%#(^*!@%
This is not GOOFY!!!!
This is EVIL!!!
Donald Trump has been GOD’S BLESSING TO NYC AND AFTER THAT TO OUR NATION AND WORLD!!!!!
PERIOD!!!! FULL STOP!!!!
GAH!*&@#%^*(#%(!@#&*(!3
FILTH@!&*(#%^(!^*#%(*&(%!)#&*%@$^*(%@^(@$#
I HATE EFFING COMMUNISTS I HATE THEM SO BAD IT IS TOTALLY UNCHRISTIAN AND IS POISONING MY
SOUL!!!!!
DAMMIT!!!#!#!#*)(&!)&(#^&*()@$&*)t@&*
/ME FARTS THE GORGON FALLS OUT HIS ASS….
Lip Lip Lip
Get a grip Lippy – we are going to need you later.
I wouldn’t describe this judge as goofy. Maybe dangerously unethical but not goofy.
He is the worst of the worst. A criminal’s act is targeted to a few. The criminal who uses the law commits his act against us all.
mankind’s reign of terror on this planet is just about over … THANK ‘GOD ALMIGHTY’ the ‘HE’ will never again allow mankind to govern itself ‘ever again …
This arrogant fool who obviously has Trump Derangement Syndrome which affects the brain and prevents logical thinking has an inflated ego that causes him to think he is important. The Trump boomerang will come around for him in due time.
Shows what kind of people live in New York! What a sheet of Charmin!
I can’t look at this judge without comparing him to Bob Denver who played Gilligan on Gilligan’s Island. Besides, his logic and reasoning is about on par with Gilligan….
except Denver was never EVIL just silly