As expected, the goofy Judge Arthur Engoron gave a ruling Friday [FULL pdf HERE] ordering President Trump to pay nearly $350 million in penalties for “business fraud.” However, without any victim and with the banks testifying on behalf of Donald Trump, who exactly is he supposed to pay?
Obviously, President Trump and his lawyers are appealing this ridiculous judicial ruling. All the banks and lenders did their own due diligence on financing terms with Donald Trump. This judge genuinely is goofy.
All operational loans and Trump Org. business loans were paid back. There were no defaults or banking interests adversely impacted. There are no victims of what the New York State calls “fraud,” yet this judge has decided President Trump must pay $350 million in damages and must dissolve business interests in the state for a period of three years.
NEW YORK – […] In addition to the penalties aimed at Trump himself, Engoron imposed measures that may significantly alter the operations of the Trump family business, known as the Trump Organization. Engoron banned Trump’s two adult sons, Eric Trump and Donald Trump Jr., who are executive vice presidents of the company, from running New York companies for two years and fined them more than $4 million each. And he ordered a court-appointed monitor to continue overseeing the company’s operations for another three years, requiring the company to seek her approval prior to submitting any financial disclosure to a third party. (read more)
Judge Arthur Engoron may sound like he is insane. He may even look like he is insane. But don’t let that fool you.
He really is insane !
Sundance says: “This judge genuinely is goofy.”
I can’t prove it, but I’d bet there’s a bit more going on here than simple goofiness.
Goofy would be 999 steps up for this one.
I’m thinking more along the lines of well-thought-out politicization and corruption. Not insane, but morally bankrupt. Ideology over law.
Turn those 9s upside down.
This
judgecommie-demo political operative genuinely isgoofyevil.There! fify
Engoron pronounced President Trump guilty even before the trial started.
A superb breakdown of the corrupt judges in each case which has been brought against our rightful president.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/02/criminals_in_black_robes.html
Oh…and by the way…
Apparently President Trump’s poll numbers shot up another 10 points.
What laws, statutes are already on the books under which these crooked lawfare hacks may be prosecuted for abuse of office, abuse of power, etc., etc., etc.
The laws broken by the “judges” and by the “district attorneys”, etc., in GA, NY, etc., must be numerous and wide-ranging. Much low-hanging fruit for an honest prosecutor.
(Yes, you are correct. “Honest” is in short supply in public office holders these days)
We need to start planning for when the US DOJ is house-cleaned and re-organized in January, 2025, by PDJT 47.
I think a million (or more) of “bits” and maybe an overseas account or two are going on…..
Rumor has it that weirdo Engoron writes his private cellphone number in all the public men’s rooms in NYC – “For a whacky time call Arty E., bonus cash in advance!”
Back in about 1975 when I was living on 30th and third in NYC a friend of mine was involved in a feud with an extremely nasty man called Marty. To get his own back he paid for a personal ad in the village voice newspaper. It read, “Call Marty at 212-123-1234 for a good time. I love to be whipped and controlled by big men.”
The thing is Engoron did it to himself…
that judge is not goofy that’s too mild a characterization, or crazy, he is a ridiculous criminal judge imposing an unlawful sentences on an innocent man
He’s an evil bastard that needs to be removed. Period.
Yes, he should be behind bars. Insanity reigns in the USA.
Not insane but possessed.
Ergoron has got to be the ugliest person ever put on this planet. The sooner his pasty complexioned, very punchable face is gone from the media, the better off we’ll all be.
Like to take this guy on a hunting trip with Dick Cheney
Pretty sure he is aligned with the Cheney’s both politically and ideologically… but I get your point.
President Trump will appeal this.
I keep thinking of the judges’ smug look in the picture…will he face God with this same look?
We fight on for reality and justice. May God bless this country and show us the way to right the ship if it be His will.
As a Christian, I’m called to care about souls. But I haven’t arrived for this kind of SOB
“Do not fret because of evildoers,
Nor be envious of the workers of iniquity.
For they shall soon be cut down like the grass,
And wither as the green herb.”
~Psalm 37:1-2~
I stumbled upon this hopeful Psalm a few minutes ago. He says it and I believe it 🙏🏻
Now, if only Almighty God will grant me patience…
Thank you so much Betsy. I know this scripture, but needed to see it again. Thank you!
You’re welcome, sir.
Also Psalm, 37:34
I’ve never been tempted to pray for Satan…
Thank you and that’s precisely the origins of these evil bastards
Fascinating critters, aren’t they…? They make no secret of the fact that they don’t believe in God; and often shout it from the rooftops. Yet they practice, even ceremonially, in “honor” of, in obedience to, and on behalf of Satan.
Can’t have it both ways, Boys, Girls, and those among the population who fancy themselves somewhere in between.
I was reading the decision about MarALago’s valuation. Because Trump claimed it as a conservation easement, its value cannot be as a single family residence,but a private club. I guess these conservation easement are in “perpetuity” and the judge saw that the $500M Trump had valued it,was actually around $75M.
But doesn’t Trump have a private residence there? This is confusing, as it is a club,with appropriate cash flows,yet it has a private residence. So what is the value of the place? And can he sell it with the easement on the property? Or can that be amended or repealed?
I’d certainly like to see that smug look wiped off its face, but I’d enjoy seeing it cut off its face far more.
Burnt off.
I’ll bring the torch…
“ordering President Trump to pay nearly $350 in penalties”
Sidebar: $350 Million.
Who is he supposed to pay it to? Which “victim”?
I’m sure Engoron can think of some reason he himself has been victimized by PDJT.
An asinine penalty ordered by an imbecile, with highly questionable credentials to be a judge. He’s more of an corrupt activist joke than someone who knows the law.
He and Tish better have stellar security detail.
Let’s hope they don’t
Do not believe your eyes and ears. The Party’s most important order.
In case someone missed it, they want to kill you.
Oh, that feeling is mutual.
I believe the law they twisted was a consumer protection law.
Donald Trump was the consumer of the loan.
It would make more sense for the Bank(s) to be fined for overcharging him.
Yes, the law was meant to protect people who took out loans from banks.
In essence, by turning this NYS consumer protection statute inside out and upside down, James and Engoron created the “predatory borrower”.
If they want Trump to continue to gain a ton of support they just hit it out of the park .
Maybe that is the point; to see how far they can push it, and who reacts?
Goofy? I can think of a few better descriptions.
How does something like this even come to trial?
Democrats, New York, Obama, Soros, Schwab, Satan.
Trump wins on appeal, straight up.
Sadly, that may take several years.
Well, the verdict elevates the confidence level for all those involved in the case among their peers. It just seems as though it will encourage this sort of lawfare.
NY judicial system is riddled with leftist activist judges even at the appeals level.
On the other hand, Judge Engoron has lost on four prior appeals related to this case (is that a record?). So I have some hope.
Yep,
This is all ridiculously and transparently politically motivated bu!!sh!t.
We truly are in Alice’s Wonderland: “Verdict first, Trial Later!”
To which our 21st-century Clown Civilization now adds:
“Victim to be paid…the Clowns will find that out for later..but it is probably The Clowns!”
The new standard is “Guilt by Accusation”, so the verdict and the trial have become preordained and immaterial !
Kafka-esque.
Likely New York State already had designs on funds of that magnitude.
Hence appearances of verdict first, trial later.
And businesses leave in droves.
Oh, they are leaving as fast as they can manage.
Desolation looms for those unfortunate to remain for too long.
The verdict chaffs my hide… having said that, these morons in their zeal to persecute President Trump, have sent a clear message to other businesses the state is not safe to conduct business in. Today’s verdict from the smug judge will hasten the exodus of business and finance from there because it is now shown if they can do this to a president, now anyone is a target…
I think massive wealth will flee the nation if any portion is allowed to stand.
I’ve always thought liberals should never be allowed to be Judges because they base everything on sheer emotion there is never any sound reasoning basic common sense or logic involved and this case is the perfect example of it .
Its like they’re in a cult.
That’s it exactly!
Like?
hope the judge doesn’t trip down a flight of stairs some dark night soon
Or his arteries harden quickly
What Judge Arthur Engoron lacks in intelligence, he makes up for in good looks.
That’s what his mom told him when he was a kid anyway.
Dad probably fed young Arthur with a slingshot from across the dining room.
If the banks are happy with the loans then who’s the victim? This is brazen political persecution.
Maybe they really can’t think that far; and are simply consumed with throwing up as much dirt and cursing as they can?
Court sanctioned theft.
I would call it a kangaroo court but kangaroos have more sense than this guy. As Bugs would say “What a maroon!!!”
I don’t know about goofy. I’d say he is pure demonic evil. He is almost like something out of a horror film.
This world is getting darker by the minute.
We need you, Jesus.
The Rule of Law is as dead as Caesar. Asswipes like this Engorton clown, and the complete lack of any pushback by those who are in a position to show respect for Law and the correct observance of such, have done the deed. Post Constitutional America is not going to be a place we will like.
Meanwhile half his country thinks this is a great day for justice against the criminal orange man and his evil sons
Go fund me set up for PDJT https://www.gofundme.com/f/stand-with-trump-raise-the-settlement
Looks like a scam at first glance. Will go back for a closer look. Some random supporter? Give send Go is a Christian site. Until I hear PDJT approves, I’m not biting
yes, SCAM.
think about it –
why would PDJT need us to send money to a third party
when we can donate to him directly?
A GoFundMe effort? Odd as most MAGA related fund-raising seems to have switched away from GoFundMe to using GiveSendGo instead due to the problem that arose with GoFundMe during the Canada Trucker Convoy/Protest.
A great idea if it is legit. The organizer is an individual, Elena Cardone out of Aventura, FL. The funds seem to go to her personally rather than an escrow account or other type of fund. Seemed unusual given the target goal is $355 million.
UPDATE: (caveat may not be the same person but ..) There is an Elena Cardone of Aventura FL married to Grant Cardone a financial influencer whose firm has faced controversy and a string of lawsuits by former clients over claimed unethical practices. I don’t know the status of the suits and I can’t say if the lawsuits have any validity.
My research aligns with yours. The money going to her personally, and not using givesendgo,was a big no for me…
Thanks Diceanne, it’s good to know two of us have eyeballed it with the same conclusion –a big no.
Hit post just as I spotted the typo in your name –apologies. Up way too late for me, though tbh am capable of typos any time of day 🙂
😉😊
I learned a lot from listening to Growing Up in Scientology (Aaron Smith Levin) You Tube channel:
Grant and Elena Cardone are SCIENTOLOGISTS and they funnel people and money into Scientology.
Grant Cardone is a fake billionaire who scams people out of their money to learn how to be successful like him.
Questions can be directed to Growing Up in Scientology’s email.
“Trump and the other defendants in the case showed a “complete lack of contrition and remorse” that “borders on pathological,” Justice Arthur Engoron wrote.”
Proclamations of your own innocence are not allowed in a illegal judicial railroading!
Take a good long look in the mirror, Artie?
Goofy and insane matters not.
In a just-World, this would never happen.
In a just-World, an appeal would be automatic.
In a just-World, these people would be penalized 10 fold.
We don’t live in a just-World. Any hope of fairness or decency has long abandoned the equation.
This is just more BS harassment and election interference and a higher court will toss this out. They are doing this crap just because they can. They hate us and Trump is our standard bearer so they need to tarnish him in front of our eyes. There’s money it for that judge somewhere too.
Trump fraudulently over valued his wife when he kissed her before leaving for work in the morning.
Retired Magistrate here: This “judge” makes me embarrassed that I ever wore a black robe!
I never dreamed that I would witness this level of insanity from the bench.
It’s demoralizing in it’s absurdity alone. I can’t imagine…
This “judge” makes me embarrassed to be an American Citizen!
This judge makes me embarrassed HE is an American citizen. I still haven’t found who this judge thinks the victim is and just who President Trump is supposed to pay. Very confusing. The city of NY? The state? Business people will be pulling out of NYC and NY state to avoid this mess if they’re smart. Maybe all the abandoned buildings that won’t sell will help the mayor house some invaders and it’ll all work out, right?
“It” is an American citizen.
I know this stuff really chaps your hide, Marcia.
It has taken me all day to calm down, I have never been as Angery as I am now and I really hope that this will be over turned but there is nothing
that says it will, I made one donation this after noon and then tonight after I heard him speak at MAL I made another one , I know that this has to be costing him and I know that he will be ok but he needs money to campaign on and so anything I can do to help him I will
Judge Arthur Engoron!
You want to know what you are? You don’t. I do. Everyone does.
You are the son of a thousand fathers, all insane bastards like you!
–Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez
How long for appeal?
No victim .. who gets the money?
Illegal aliens, minus Joe’s 10%.
NYS will dive it up amongst the team members.
No statute was violated.
is this judge trolling and pranking NYC D-machine by playing like this?
The entire court system is corrupt. Gods in black robes with the power to convict innocent citizens while being celebrated by evil politicians who appointed them. Actions will be required to restore justice.
The one way President Trump can literally break it off in people like this jackass Judge is once he and his people take operational control of the IRS after his inauguration in January of 2025, he turns them loose to deliver ANAL INSPECTIONS THAT END UP LEAVING THEM IN DEBTORS PRISON!!! 😵
Normally civil trial damages are awarded punitive, compensatory, or both. But this is a penalty. 🤔
This Judge and his Fifteen Minutes were so misused. Too bad.
Proverbs 17:23 A wicked man takes a gift in secret to pervert the paths of judgment.
I prefer execution.
I prefer tossed out of a skyscraper!
Plenty to pick from in Manhattan.
Ok lets look at the logically.
Corrupt DA’s, corrupt lawyers and corrupt judges can fine you, put you in jail, steal elections etc etc.
Anyone in dc on jan 6, 2020 are a target for persecution.
But not just those in dc.
A corrupt justice dept can reach out and touch you for any reason for political reasons etc.
None of us are safe from lawfare corruption.
This is a message they are sending.
Some people will not support Trump because of this is the second message.
Da said interest was piling up until its paid.
These corrupt da devils want you to live in fear is message 3.
Some will take the bait.
Trump won’t and neither will I.
Here’s the message they get, Red Weddings if they destroy Trump.
you would think PDJT is the biggest fraudster since Bernie Madoff or that weird Blink bitcoin kid …Still don’t quite understand it – The banks should have charged him a higher interest rate and paid less for buying some assets ? And without this judgement they would never have known that … ?
And how does court quatify what those rates /prices should have been in order to arrive at the penalty amount -Naturally not a surprising result and Judge probably threw an extra 10 or 20 million dollars on there because PDJT embarrassed and hurt his clerk’s. feelings by putting her TDS and crush on Senator Schumer on display on Truth …
A corrupt judiciary may be even more to be feared than banking institutions or a standing army.
Meanwhile in the real world, it’s been discovered that Joe Biden’s grandkids are actively engaged in the Biden Crime Family – all of them! Joe Biden may not wake up in the morning, but I hope he and Jill realize his grandkids will be prosecuted for their very real crimes.
I think “goofy” is too nice a word for this self-righteous, bottom-of-the-barrel judge and his fembot sidekick.
My sister thinks Trump is going down and NBC news tells her all about it and how awful and corrupt he is. So like all of us I have to educate her on what is really going on within our corrupt government and media. It is very hard to get the light bulb to finally go off even though she’s a successful business woman. Even still we are making tremendous progress as more and more people see the corruption and know instinctively something is wrong. Keep up the fight Treepers! Never give up and never give in!
Judge Ismoron and Ilsa,the she wolf of clerks,think they’ve won a big victory.That victory doesn’t include the taxpayers of Noo Yawk,who will continue to pay very high taxes to support the loons of the left who run this third world state.They think of themselves as the top of the judicial heap right now.Their fall will be at least as rapid as their undeserved,self-aggrandizing rise.
The country is in trouble! War.
Every business in NYC should be planning a move and then NYC being removed as a city, turn it into a penal colony. When the law is based on political opinion drastic measures need to be taken. Escape from NYC should seriously be considered and that Revelation part, where Babylon is destroyed should also be considered as a possibility.
When you look at Engorgon, you say to yourself, how did America create such a pig of a person and that Witch sitting next to him. Gargoyle and The Witch!
How does this asshat feel safe?
Unreal.
dog whistle ? or do you believe the narrative spun by the Left and FIB that MAGA are knuckle-dragging violent thugs?
The left has pushed too far, and without real consequence.
Further, the thought of political persecution sickens me, as it should all Americans. When Trump wins, he has to reign Hell down on the people who did this.
Of course not. But there are always a few, shall we say, unstable people in any organization – especially when there are millions of them.
The judicial branch of the government is the most corrupt branch of the government.
I am sorry for President Trump that he has had to go through such BS. Prayers are up for him and his family.
I am so confused in the world today.
Seriously
Gorgon will get his, preferably sooner than later.