Leftist groups are apoplectic knowing the 2020 ballot fraud will be almost impossible to execute again in 2024. As a consequence, they have dropped to multiple vectors of defense including the filing of lawsuits under a stretched Lawfare provision of the 14th Amendment.
The radicals claim the Constitutional Amendment disqualifies certain current public officials who are defined as participating in an insurrection. The leftist claim questioning fraudulent results in a manipulated national ballot harvesting operation, is akin to an insurrection.
Questioning a leftist worldview is violence, but violence from leftists is free speech.
President Trump, the overwhelming majority of Americans and courts -sans Colorado- has dismissed the lawsuits as politically motivated. Today, a Michigan high court dismissed another attempt by the far left to keep President Trump from the Republican primary ballot.
In a brief order {pdf HERE}, the Michigan Supreme Court rejected an appeal over a lower court’s decision that parties can place whichever candidates they choose on presidential primary ballots. The justices were “not persuaded that the questions presented should be reviewed by this court,” according to the order.
(Politico) – Michigan’s highest court said Wednesday that Donald Trump can appear on the state’s Republican primary ballot, but the court declined to weigh in for now on whether Trump is eligible to run in the general election and serve again as president.
The court turned away an appeal from Michigan voters who argue that Trump should be barred from the ballot because of his efforts to subvert the 2020 election and stoke violence at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. The voters cite a provision of the 14th Amendment that, in some circumstances, bars people from holding public office if they have “engaged in insurrection or rebellion.”
[…] “The Secretary of State’s role in presidential primary elections is chiefly that of an administrator,” the Michigan Court of Appeals wrote. “In particular, when it comes to who is or is not placed on the primary ballot, the statutory scheme leaves nothing to the Secretary of State’s discretion.”
In a statement following Wednesday’s order from the Michigan Supreme Court, Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, a Democrat, said she was “gratified” the state judiciary upheld her office’s approach of not striking Trump from the primary ballot. She has argued in the past that she lacked the authority to do so procedurally.
The challengers vowed to try to knock Trump off the general election ballot, should he ultimately receive the GOP nomination. (read more)
Newsom/Whitmer 2024 because they dont need you to get elected.
What I see………….
SCENE I. A cavern. In the middle, a boiling cauldron.
Metro Detroiter-I call them the three b/witches as well
bitch…bitchier….bitchiest.
Mass Psychosis;
With all respect the graphic with the red and blue line, depicts the “drop and roll” aka “Dominion algorythm” distinctive as a fingerprint method of cheating which is now permanently OFF the menu of options, for the election thieves.
In that tweet, Hakeem unconsciously revealed he expects PDJT to win, as otherwise his tweet makes no sense.
And they certainly aren’t passing legislation to insure Nikki, Ron, Joe or Gavin DO NOT withdraw the U.S from NATO.
Turns out yes, they DO need a certain amout of “you” to get elected, they need SOME real voters and they now realise they don’t have enough.
I must be dense but this is the first time I have heard about the Dominion thing being off the menu. Could someone please clarify that for me? Thanks. Oops. Just found the answer a little farther down. Never mind.
The border is wide open you know and it aint because there’s a cheap labor shortage.
Why is it off the table. They are brazen enough to donut in plain sight. Remember, There are trillions at stake.
Although Jezebel was eaten by starving dogs, I see that her demon still lives.
Whitmer is so lame.
after a hundred years of her here in michiganistan all i can hope for is that she doesn’t become president.
trust me folks…you don’t want that.
She should also lose her Governorship. She is a member of the Leftist Regime who has worked hand-in-glovr with the FBLie to fake her own “kidnapping.” During “Covid” she okayed Home Depot to stay open, but banned people from buying seeds there, to start their gardens in the spring. She outlawed landscapers, who work outside, to provide any and all services to Michigan citizens. Gretchen Whitmer is evil personified.
Basically won her last election using abortion scaremongering and having seemingly endless campaign cash despite being one of the worst vid authoritarians.
Whitmer is not simply “lame.” Whitmer is evil and she is backed by The Regime.
Yes, I truly believe It is evil.
If you have the same diagrams from the other swing states, would you mind to post them here?
Michigan Election Analysis by Seth Keshel
https://electionfraud20.org/seth-keshel-reports/michigan/
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Election Fraud in Wisconsin
https://electionfraud20.org/seth-keshel-reports/wisconsin/
Election Fraud in Pennsylvania
https://electionfraud20.org/fraud-summary-by-state/pennsylvania/
Election Fraud in Georgia
https://electionfraud20.org/fraud-summary-by-state/georgia/
Election Fraud in Arizona
https://electionfraud20.org/fraud-summary-by-state/arizona/
Election Fraud in Nevada
https://electionfraud20.org/fraud-summary-by-state/nevada/
Thanks for reminding us..
Whitmer is of the belief that she is ‘all that’….She is a nothing phony…a clown.🤡
Who are the other two Morons ?
Blue coat pass ed out drunk at U of M game AG Dana Nessel, SoS Jocelyn Benson
Those two idiots are negotiating settlements of criminal charges with alternate electors from 2020. The lone guy to turn now has to have been offered something close to free and must be sharp as a bowling ball.
I am ashamed to call them “women.” Fools and criminals know no gender.
She is an empty pantsuit for sure.
When she came out looking like a cheap hooker during her televised first State of the State message it told me all I needed to know about this narcissistic witch. It is one nasty piece of work.
Yes, Nasty.
I never noticed the first vertical jump before midnight until now.
They ain’t Charlie’s Angels. More like Barry’s She-Devils.
I call them Michigan’s Macbethian witches.
Did that one on the far left make a gun with her fingers? She needs to be arrested.
Yes, and what makes it all the better is that “It” is the Attorney General of Michigan.
Snake skin stilettos, how fitting.
Good catch!
Snake-skin something…
Yes, these three corrupt freaks are in charge of the once great state of Michigan. Gag me with a spoon.
Chalk this lightweight up too :
Shenna Lee Bellows
..
Bootygig has a sister?!
We are so doomed!!!
🤪
Whitmer soon “86”
Definitely NOT Charlie’s Angels…
Splodey heads’ debris incoming from 360 degrees.
Don your rain gear!
Few things give me more joy than leftist’s tears.
Poof seems pissed.
And suddenly I am feeling all schadenfreud-ish…
the 2020 ballot fraud will be almost impossible to execute again in 2024…”
What makes anyone believe that?
Nothing has ever been done to correct ANY of the known cases of 2020 election fraud, and there’s no clear plan do anything to break the left’s stranglehold on ballot counting in key battleground ground states like, PA, GA, AZ or MI
IMO, I think 2024 will be business as usual for the Leftist election thieves.
My question exactly.
Ditto.
“Nothing has been done” like “I don’t SEE anything” is an expression of willful blindness that is difficult to explain as other than intentional.
ONE of the MAJOR tools used in 2020 was the Eric system, which they abused to give them real time feedback on election day voting. 16 States including Texas have exited the ERIC system, so in 2024 the cheaters will be flying blind.
It was the Eric system which informed them Texas was NOT going to go for Joe, triggering their back up plan to use the “Dominion Algorythm” aka “drop and roll” in 6 States.
The algorythm has been utilised since the 1988 Mexican Presidential election, but no one ever understood HOW it worked, until after the 2020 election, when an election challenge case FINALLY pierced the “Proprietary info” seal the machine companies had employed to prevent court ordered forensic analyses of the machines, which revealed how the algorythm works.
Rather than explain the technical details which would make this comment far longer, lets just say this;
Its like a magic trick; when the audience doesn’t know HOW it works, they are dazed and amased, but once they KNOW how it works, it loses its magic, and can’t be used any more.
You don’t have to take my word for it; it was not used in any election in 2022, including must steal Maracopa County, where they certainly WOULD have used it if they could.
2000 mules, used in 2020 was not used at all in 2022, either. The release of the movie told THEM we obviously could follow/track the mules BACK to the “Mother ship” where the mailed out ballots were collected, processed and distributed to the mules.
The story out of Michigan, of the squashed investigation further exposed the nature and therefore vulnerability of the operation, making it also “off the menu” for 2024.
In every State, their are NUMEROUS linked, grass roots chapters of National election integrity groups; from Mike Lindell, True the Vote, Omega4America that are attacking various aspects of election integrity.
These are the up front and readily obvious productive actions. Others are,…
THEY continued to insist the machines weren’t and ciuldn’t be accessed via the internet,..but they don’t any more.
2 enterprising “geeks” during the 2022 primary in Az. parked in the street, near a voting location. They set up a wi-fi hotspot, livestreamed what they were doing.
Then they established a link with rhe coffee machine in the voting center, and told it to establish a bluetooth link with the voting tabulation machine sitting next to it.
The next step WOULD have been to ILLEGALLY access the voting machine, so they stopped there having made their point.
Some enterprising lads accessed the security camera system that Maracopa county had at the warehouse where they stored the voting machines, and recorded the feed, which they later put on the Internet, showing County employees breaking the seals on the machines, AFTER they had been “Certified” removing the motherboards, installing malware, testing to make sure it would intermitently “break” the machines, LABELING the machines to insure they were delivered to KL red districts.
They waited until after the County employees perjured themselves about these activities, before releasing the videos.
I could go on, but the point is;
And all of this I learned,,simply from READING stories published on The Gateway Pundit,..and doing just a LITTLE research.
So, go home and try it again!
Dutchman, wow, I knew a bit of it but you’ve put it all together sooooo nicely. I did have some questions and you’ve cleared them up. Many thanks for this, and, yes, the Gateway Pundit is a fabulous resource.
Dutch is an expert on this, particularly the AZ stuff.
I can’t regurgitate as well as him on the election integrity stuff, but I read a lot also and I can tell you the stuff in Ga is just as bad, if not worst, and there have been major, major breakthroughs there also, mainly led by Catherine Engelbrecht and Garland Favorito.
AND, more is coming, quickly.
In addition to TGP, Georgia has a local paper kinda obscure (Georgia Record or Recorder?) that breaks stories on this and corruption in GA all the time.
Point is, shit is hitting the fan everywhere. It just doesn’t make the news much.
Edit: “Point is, shit is hitting the fan everywhere. It just doesn’t make the corporate-owned network (television and newspaper) news much.”
Genau!!
Ja wohl!
Exposing the fraud after the fact is one thing, preventing it next time around is another. Does anyone think any of the above, all good measures in their own right, will prevent “new and improved” fraud in 2024? I’m sorry, but I don’t. Democrats cheat. It’s what they do.
Spot on.
Hundreds of thousands of Patriots will be watching and reporting on every aspect of voting in the next election. They will not get away with it again. Take that to the bank.
I hope but I was saying the same thing in AZ in 2022 as I went to vote then they purposely went with 19in ballot images (sans the 20in regulation) in heavy Lake precincts and created hours long voting lines causing many people to just up and leave without voting.
They cheat. Patriots see it. The establishment blows it off. Then what?
“Then they established a link with the coffee machine in the voting center, and told it to establish a Bluetooth link with the voting tabulation machine sitting next to it.”
Unbelievable…can’t imagine what George Washington or Abraham Lincoln would say about the deterioration of our country. So many lives lost so we could have free and honest elections.
They will find another method…count on it.
In the months following the 2020 election, I followed story after story. Chased down the rabbit holes. Came up empty. Lots of smoke, but no proof of fire. I found lots of smoking guns that weren’t. I did more than a LITTLE research.
I hope you’re right, Dutch. I’ll happily eat my own crow if I see Donald Trump take the oath of office in January 2025. But I wouldn’t lay money on that bet.
Well done. Thanks for taking the effort to list some of our successes. Lindell has had much more success than people know.
Dutch – out of all those mentioned I’m hoping that State Legislatures are jumping on board with Jay Valentine’s system at Omega4America. That is a rock solid way to perform voter verification as far as our voter rolls.
As far as I can tell none of that prevents them from being able to manufacture a whole lot of “votes” for the Dem candidate. Regardless if they have the ability to monitor the tally in real time, that is not what actually stole the election. Printing and counting ballots did. I appreciate it I was hoping to get a better answer. Sundance?
I don’t understand the desire to indicate that the steal can’t be done again. All the elections in swing states in 2022 and 2023 went to the Dems no matter what the method. The only losses were on what the Dems thought was controlled ground. The only thing that matters is who wins because control of the system goes to the winner.
The Whitehouse is Democrat. The Senate is Democrat. The House is GOPe controlled by one vote. That seems like they are winning.
To this day no fraudulent election has been allowed to come to presenting data of the steal much less overturned. The Dems are hoping for us to continue to focus on the way it was stolen last time. They win by a thousand cuts. No single method was pursued to make the steal happen. We have just focused on the Drop and Roll and the Mules because we can see big effects there. There are dozens of vectors that are all being pursued to this very moment.
They will do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING to win. Nancy Pelosi announced PDJT wouldn’t win 2020. She was right. There was a worldwide pandemic introduced to allow make that true. Expecting the Uniparty to do it the same way as before will just get us to the same frustrated point of loss.
As you noted the Dems have been perfecting the steal since the late 90’s when Barack was only a Community Organizer. They have spent Billons of dollars hiring thousands of people with a single point of focus to change the outcome. I’d estimate they will spend over $5 billion to “fortify” the 2024 election.
What has Mitten’s Niece done to counter? Nothing. Steve Bannon is asking for her proverbial head on a platter. The GOPe controls the gears of the Republican Party and returned her to that position. There will not be 2000 attorneys in each contested district to counter the Dems. The GOPe could have fought 2020 but rolled over and attacked Rudy Giuliani. What has changed?
Look at the voter participation numbers of Chicago and Detroit in the 90’s. There are precincts with sub 20% participation. Those same districts have 99% participation in the last elections. BO implemented a Precinct tracking strategy that has voted every potential ballot since 2012, long before mail in ballots were the thing.
Your first point about Eric is true BUT no contested state has put Eric on the shelf. Texas was red. Dropping Eric kept that vector from being played but The Bushies are working hand over fist to block voter challenges in Houston, San Antonio, and Dallas that will swing the state Blue.
I know Colorado was stolen in 2020 by inflating the participating voters by an average statewide of 12%, equal to the 400k vote winning margin. The Consultant Class would have said increasing participation 2% would have been impossible. Colorado had an 87% participation rate state wide. The 5 Contested voting centers with Drop and Roll numbers in swing states were the only places with higher participation.
Because the margin is overwhelming none of the underlining data is available. Tina Peters has been used to shut down all open data access and allowed for the overwriting of records.
The Drop and Roll was done in Colorado over the weeks before Election Day by seeing who from the overwhelming support for PDJT, shown by the 50 mile long Trump train around Denver, had turned in their ballots. The Machine that Polis has built registered and submitted new voters to counter. 12% increase state wide is the tell.
63% is the average voter participation nationwide for Presidential elections since the Great Depression. Colorado was voted at 87% to get the steal. Thats never happened before and statistically impossible. It’s an infinite beat in market speak.
In every Precinct nationwide the Dems have the list of every single person in the non-voting 37%. They are ready to produce ballots for every one and then replace real ballots as occurred in Michigan, which is still being litigated to no avail. We must make sure every ballot is valid. I advocated for a complete canvas of the Boebert race to find out who they are voting. Not just no interest but shut down hard. Cheating happens on both sides.
Is it possible to win? With God everything is possible. We have to become as Wise as Gideon. Lanterns of 300 to misdirect, tracking of every cheating method we know about, with the voting centers being the equivalent of Fort Knox.
Past the close of voting there must be a gauntlet of protections to prevent a random van or truck with ballots arriving on site. The advantage of thumb drives to cheaters is a hundred thousand voted can fit in your pocket. Every drive must be accompanied by a MAGA observer or votes will be provided in the night with paper backups produced in the weeks after.
We have to focus on the weaknesses in the system now. In no location is Dominion being forced to update their hackable systems anywhere. Everything is being pushed out into 2025.
If we wait for others the race in 2024 is lost..
Moved this post to the politics thread. Very important discussion..
I think it will be harder to pull off the theft they accomplished in 2020 because the people are starting to see that the democrats suck. If they are able to pull it off they’ll have to use many more zuckerbucks than last time because the grifters who pulled off the actual steal used all that money up with the cost of food and fuel. Yep it’ll be harder, but not impossible .
One instance where inflation is a blessing. It’s going to cost a lot more zuckerbucks this time.
Thankfully Zuck and his bucks have been shut out of many states. And, he has publicly stated he will not be spending the cash this time around.
Im sure he and his rabid leftist team will still stifle conservatives on his platforms though.
Zoe it does not matter for many Dem voters if they start to see that democrats suck. All that will do is make those voters even more cynical and even more likely to grab for giveaways and freebies while they last.
They already know dems are corrupt. A big segment of voters just don’t care. Those voters only care about getting a piece of that corrupt loot for themselves. They are the same kind of people who if they see a riot breaking out don’t try to stop the riot because they want to grab themselves a new TV and some sneakers once the looting begins.
No different from the scavenging illegals arriving in our country to get whatever they can – and it turns out that is a lot.
“The people” are too scared of “The State” to do a darned thing about it.
Lighter fluid
This!! 100%
Its why the polls always look so close its bogus polls. I believe Trump leads by 60% or more in all states. The truth will not ever come out, never.
There is no way people vote for Biden, not at the percentage they claim. Fraud is the game. Lying garbage run our elections. You pay to get appointed to office.
Why do you think Biden wants billions for Ukraine?
Zuck won’t be using his half a billion $bucks this go around.
The voter rolls are being cleaned up in numerous states.
Numerous counties around the country will now be using paper ballots with hand counting.
Drop boxes have been eliminated in some states.
ALL eyes and ears will be on this election. They can’t get away with what they did last time.
Jay Valentine at the American Thinker has illuminated us all on how voter rolls are manipulated. 30,000 ballots all sent out to addresses with the wrong zip codes only to be returned to the post office, picked up by Dem operatives. Then magically those zip codes are corrected. Hundreds of thousands of ballots sent to parking lots, gas stations, schools buildings, etc. etc.. Now there is a way to track those.
“Software-profile every address in a state — compare the address on the personal property tax roll with the same address on the voter roll. We did this in Nevada, and the results change the game.”
‘The Immovable Object is visibility of electoral data for any citizen from his phone — cross searched against property tax records — and dozens of other databases — at silicon speed.”
Kari Lake’s lawsuit in AZ shined a bright on light on the fraud that took place in the 2022 election.
Georgia’s Raffensperger has refused to testify in a case of fraudulent 2020 voting (enough to prove President Trump took Georgia) and Dominion.
Refused!!
Guilty!!!
And corrupt.
It just seems to me that there is NO END to the amount of appeals these people seem to pull out of their rear ends. You think it’s over and you can rest easy but,…….wait………another appeal comes out of the woodwork.
Thats the legal system, which they are TRYING to manipulate.
If it frustrates you, ignore it.
In the end it means NOTHING.
The RNC is the one which will attempt to keep President Trump off ballots.
Well, who do you think controls the RNC?
Not the Michigan high court….so what are you trying to communicate?
Actually its the Uniparty – the RNC working with the DNC…
Why will they have a hard time cheating. They are gonna mail out a ballot to every illegal that they just let in knowing it will go unused and steal that vote.
75% of them won’t bother, they are already in the shadows.
First off, its NOT the ballot thats that important.
Its the inner mail back in envelope, which contains the unique voter identifying information thats valuable to them.
The ballot they stuff in that envelope can even be preprinted, its the envelope which enables them to put the bogus and anonymous ballot into the tabulation center and have it counted.
Recall 90% of the employees in the counting center are temporary full time workers, and not “in on” the steal. Remember how they “sent everyone home” and then a few snuck back?
So, envelopes come in, the first step in varifying is the unique voter identifying info on the envelope is scanned, and must match whats in the voter rolls, otherwise the encelope is supposed to be discarded, unopened.
Second step, us the SIGNATURE, on the outside of the envelope is “signature varified” and must be deemed to match the voters signature on file.
No match, again the envelopecis supposed to be discarded, unopened.
Obviously for a massive operation to mark or print ballots, stuff in the envelopes the election dept mailed out, and sign 30-50,000 ballots, the thieves are not attempting to forge convincing signatures.
Hence, simply tightening up the standards for sig. varification SO THAT they follow the law ON sig var, (WHICH HAS BEEN DONE IN MANY COUNTIES) makes any such massive ballot envelope stuffing operation futile, as the ballots won’t be counted.
And, in those major counties with big cities, where they have not been forced to tighten up sig var,..well those ballot envelopes mailed out to PHANTOM voters, ARE laying out where “anybody” could pick them up,..now aren’t they?
What are you talking about?!?
Ballot signatures are not a form of security. 2 years of training to become a certified signature verifier. No person in a voting center has such certification. Non-certified people (normal you and me) approve 25% of these that are not matches. Would a 25% error rate make a diffrence?
The rejection rate in past elections was in the 10%-15% range for new voters. By consent decree the challenges were sidelined. 2020 had 1/20th the rejection rate in the 1/2% ball park.
Signature verification software was turned down to almost no alerts on mis-matches. Look at the video us from the AZ audit. Audit observers indicated that a scratch in the signature box was counted as a match to a clearly spell out name.
25% wrong of 12.5% rejected in past election nets 4.125%. Every swing state was inside that margin of error.
This is a massive area for fraud..
Noted Sundance mentioned that It’s “almost impossible” for the left to rig the election in 2024. I’m not so sure. I think they have no choice but to rig the election to avoid the hangman. Nothing quite gets one’s attention like life in jail or execution for treason. I expect them to act accordingly.
Nobody is going to jail for life or be executed for rigging any election. But, IMO, they will be called out and humiliated and lose their “power.” We (the electorate) see it for what it is and we will not let it happen again. By any means.
First off PDT has access to just as good or better IS people then the Dims. 2nd, if there are plans and safeguards in place to prevent a repeat steal such as occurred in 2020, do you think those are going to be broadcast? PDT has said repeatedly they’re not going to get away with another election theft in 2024
“…knowing the 2020 ballot fraud will be almost impossible to execute again in 2024.”
What has changed since November 2020, SD, to give you that confidence? I expect the fraud will be as bad as 2020 and likely much worse. FJB’s crew probably already has more than 200 million “votes” printed up to unleash on election night. We are on the way to Soviet style “elections” where the preferred candidates routinely received 99% of all “votes”.
There can’t be 400 million ballots floating around, that would be too comically obvious.
All the more reason for them to do it. They are laughing in our faces as it is after blatantly stealing the 2020 election with exactly zero consequences.
@ moderator – why are my comments suddenly being banished to the bin? I’ve not posted anything even remotely controversial in here
Probably in the dog house. We all get there at some point.
So what will these desperate psychopaths resort to when all their nonviolent methods fail? May God preserve and protect President Trump.
Keep the foot on the gas pedal…
Pedal to the metal.
“We will never yield our democracy no matter how many votes MAGA wins.”
Do these tards have any self awareness? Any?? 25 years ago this democrat thinking wouldn’t have made it out of the room. Now it’s front and center of trumpet media.
Why are we even stressing about them? Because republican elite love playing rope with that rabid party.
The uncontested absurdities of today are the accepted slogans of tomorrow. They come to be accepted by degrees, by precedent, by implication, by erosion, by default, by dint of constant pressure on one side and constant retreat on the other – until the day when they are suddenly declared to be the country’s official ideology.
~ Ayn Rand
The one thing leftists do very well is lie and continue to push the insurrection narrative that never happened. There was no insurrection, but there was absolutely voter fraud.
I see it as the Demonrats committing the insurrection and doing their usual Oscar worthy projecting.
They also still continue to push the narrative of Russian interference.
They had that insurrection narrative ready to go the minute the first protester was allowed into the Capitol that day.
It was interesting to watch how every single mainstream news anchor parroted that exact talking point. It was almost as if so had told them what to say and how to say it. And then every idiot Republican so called representative fell in line with that leftist talking point.
i watched as it unfolded and knew immediately what was happening and yet our R ‘leaders) couldn’t see it?
Watch the reaction of the members of Congress when the “insurrectionists” entered the building. One side of the aisle clearly dispersed more rapidly, almost like they were pre-informed of what was going on.
They saw it, and approved.
Few things give me as much joy as leftist’s tears.
Just remember, Democrat Communists ALWAYS think they “are the smartest people in the room” about everything.
Yep. But they’re stupid though.
And the stupidest people in the room are those who think everybody else is as stupid as they are.
Those kind are always like that.
If his name isn’t on the ballot, write him in.
That’s exactly what I’m doing. If he’s not on the ballot who cares if they discard our ballots, at this point what difference does it make? If there are millions of write-ins they might think twice.
Donald J Trump will be scrawled across mine in the event he’s not. Down ballot will also get a big fkn surprise ,so they better fight for him.
Donald J Trump ….or Bust!
Oh okay. Nevada does not allow write in votes. You can do it but they will not count it if you choose to put it on a mail in ballot. If you vote on the machine then there is no way to insert the candidate’s name.
I’ve been wondering about this here in Texas as well. Not only do we vote on machines in my precinct but they were changed this past year.
All of this…the jostling over appearing on ballots, the indictments, the dictator talk, the insurrection talk, the constant “democracy is finished” talk….all of it….and more….is not only to make Trump politically toxic (and failing to do so) but it’s to open the door to “St Floyd-esque” rioting and destruction if Trump overcomes it all and wins. Don’t take this activity lightly the left and irs globalist backers are fully aware who is getting motivated by all this.
That’s your true insurrection right there.
I could care less what blue city the leftists destroy in the riots. Dog eat Dog.
Doesn’t the need to “overcome massive election fraud” prove nothings been done to stop it? Prayerfully, this will be the last election this is necessary.
No ID, not vote. It really is that simple, if Republicans would grow a pair.
It’s not voter fraud. It’s election fraud and the criminals are the authorities in a small number of Democrat controlled cities.
Why will it be more difficult for Dems to steal the election in 2024?? It was obvious what happened in 2020, yet it still stands. Why would 2024 be different? 🤔🤔🤔
Sundance may be playing ‘devil’s advocate’ to test us to see if we have fallen into a false sense of security.
I’d like to hear why 2020 isn’t replicable. Because I’ve seen little in the way of meaningful reforms.
What a downer.
You probably don’t belie in Santa Clause or the Tooth Fairy either.
Santa and tooth fairy are more believable than credible election security.
Not a downer – simple common sense.
‘….2020 ballot fraud will be almost impossible to execute again in 2024’ Really? How so?
Merlin will stop it. He saved King Author and Camelot didn’t he?
https://truthsocial.com/@KarliBonne/111653558518836532
Trump 2024!
America!!! We love Trump!!
That’s good news but they will still cheat. Folks, we really need God back and His intervention in our country.
Name something that absolutely appalls Him that we are not doing. Accepting and cheering on the alphabet people is not helpful … it’s like slapping Him in the face and that’s just one issue. We really need to change our moral and spiritual rot to turn our country around.
I don’t understand what this means, and who is doing that?! “Accepting and cheering on the alphabet people “
Surely you jest. The “alphabet people” referred to are the LGBTQ etc. people and many so-called “normal” people are doing exactly what Ned said – accepting and cheering them on.
All hell is gonna break loose. Then the shut down of the 24 election will occur. That’s if the powers that be have failed at assassination. .
“Michigan [Supreme] court dismissed another attempt by the far left to keep President Trump from the Republican primary ballot.”
As long as SCOTUS doesn’t rule otherwise, multiple legal claims for judicial review to ban President Trump to appear on 11/5/24 general election ballot after his expected official nomination at RNC National Convention in Milwaukee, MI (7/15-18/24) will start over.
Lots of Doomnostication going on.
I’m sure the Left appreciates the assist to their voter suppression efforts.
Lots of work has been done and is being done and if any can’t see it perhaps their head is in the wrong place.
In the impractical art of stopping election tampering America must be prepared to stop election tampering at any time in the future. In the practical art of stopping election tampering, America should have stopped election tampering quite some time ago, and it’s probably already too late. We’ scroomed.
– Sun Tzu’s Great Nephew, Moon Yoo Tzu
yes, the doomageddonaires are out in force.
apparently we’re supposed to just lie down in the bus lane and wait.
Apparently, no one has told them that Eeyore was an ass.
Had a conversation with a leftist today. Teacher……..so I can only assume her position was/is by association(s) and employment, (as opposed to some type of human logic from birth or via life experiences).
Needless to say…….when pressed, she could not debate on facts/issues/examples. Pretty much a, “Trump is a liar”.
I tried to rationally step through a conversation to get examples of his lies, (h3llz bells……even a couple of example would have done), but when she could not support her untenable position……she pretty much resorted to, “we are going to have to agree to disagree”.
I was simply glad I was able to walk away without being covered in feces, verbal berating or name calling.
How to these people justify a complete and utter regurgitation without having any tangibles to back up what they believe?
INCREDIBLE.
Oh, well………..hope springs eternal.
The libs hate themselves and want everybody miserable. Most of their kids are rude clown haired rejects so they have lowered their standards also. Even they do not think their kids can compete so they want a set up world for them. It is all about lowering standards in every subject.
Lib: So, you don’t believe in raising minimum wage? Me: No, it hurts black kids. Lib: That’s selfish. Me: What percent of workers earn minimum wage? Lib: A lot! Me: The answer is 3.6%, I thought you cared about the 99. Lib: Stop the hate! Me: What hate? Lib: You don’t believe in raising minimum wage!!! (Volume increasing) . Me: I’m having Deja Vu.
I’ve had this exact conversation dozens of times, over decades. In fifty years, I’ve not found a single liberal who knows wage demographics or, when questioned, shows any interest in learning.
Liberalism is a spiritual affliction, where caring about a thing is more important than fixing the thing. A good example is black poverty. The cause is fatherlessness, which can’t be fixed in a generation. In order to be good people caring about poverty, liberals call others racists. If they admitted the cause of poverty, they’d have to admit their ideas caused it. Then, they couldn’t be good people.
See how this merry go round works? Liberalism is insane. It’s why “go f yourselves” is often a better response than debate, given their “debates” will always be the false premise of they care and you don’t. I really dislike these people.
“Liberalism is a spiritual affliction, where caring about a thing is more important than fixing the thing.” Perfect description of the liberal Dem voter.
Things are going to get spicy. As all their stealth options and their lawfare options get shut down one by one, and as Trump’s numbers continue to grow, the Left will resort to their fallback option which is violence. The Left always is eager to engage in violence.
Well Duh! We knew this. But the basturds will keep trying. . Trump could have given every American a brand new house, a car , then put their kids through college, and they’d still be ungrateful, “oh well I don’t like his personality.”
I’m so sick of stupid brainwashed people who have no clue what’s going on around them.
“Leftist groups are apoplectic knowing the 2020 ballot fraud will be almost impossible to execute again in 2024.”
Almost impossible? You underestimate those swine..
(BTW, they will have even more millions upon millions of mercenary invaders in 2024 than they had in 2020)
“…fraud will be almost impossible to execute again in 2024.”
I ain’t sayin’ nuthin’.
All we need is a little magic. Maybe we could conjure up Merlin.
We have Jesus.
“Questioning a leftist worldview is violence, but violence from leftists is free speech.”
Well, you know the tune.
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
Dig Hole Deeper is Build Back Better
Islam is Love, not Hate (GWB)
Mercenaries are Patriotic
A Wide Open Border is a Secure Border
Hmm. Sundance, I see no reason the Dems cannot duplicate the 2020 ballot fraud.
This time the whole of the USPS is in service of the Dems.
Where did all these Democrats come from? They grow thicker and thicker and act more and more outrageously at each successive election. Now yesterday they had the presumption to elect S. H. Dwinelle to the Judgeship of the Fifteenth District Court, and not content with this, they were depraved enough to elect four out of the six Justices of the Peace! Oh, ‘Enery Villiam, where is thy blush! Oh, Timothy Hooligan, where is thy shame! It’s out. Democrats haven’t got any.
The only man I ever knew who could counteract this passion on the part of Democrats for voting, was Robert Roach, carpenter of the steamer Aleck Scott, “plying to and from St. Louis to New Orleans and back,” as her advertisement sometimes read. The Democrats generally came up as deck passengers from New Orleans, and the yellow fever used to get them right and left – eight or nine a day for the first six or eight hundred miles; consequently Roach would have a lot on hand to “plant” every time the boat landed to wood – “plant” was Roach’s word. One day as Roach was superintending a burial the Captain came up and said:
“God bless my soul, Roach, what do you mean by shoving a corpse into a hole in the hill-side in this barbarous way, face down and its feet sticking out?”
“I always plant them Democrats in that manner, sir, because, damn their souls, if you plant ’em any other way they’ll dig out and vote the first time there’s an election – but look at that fellow, now – you put ’em in head first and face down and the more they dig the deeper they’ll go into the hill.”
In my opinion, if we do not get Roach to superintend our cemeteries, enough Democrats will dig out at the next election to carry their entire ticket.
– Mark Twain; Early Tales & Sketches, Vol. 2 1864-1865, (Univ. of California Press, 1981), pp. 313-14.]
Democrats always cheat and they always will.
Will they start WWIII to stop President Trump from taking office again? I wouldn’t put it past them.
Desperate times come for desperate measures and dangerous animals backed into a corner will attack.
A standing military force, with an overgrown executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defense against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people.
– James Madison (“The Father of the United States Constitution”)
Here’s the headline on Yahoo this morning — they sure are promoting it!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fears-rising-widened-middle-east-051944556.html
“Fears are rising of a widening Middle East War with US Troops in the Firing Line.”
And they wonder why enlistment is down. Who wants to go to war with Dems in charge!
a. No President has ever been charged with “incitement of insurrection” and while that case has not been processed for a state to invoke article 14 power.
b. No President has ever been removed from the election ballot under ANY circumstances using article 14 power.
c. There is great constitutional legal debate about the authority of an individual state to have standing and jurisdiction with respect to article 14 power. This debate ranges from whether the power is solely a congressional power for presidential election, and/or whether state courts have authority with respect to former Presidents, even those theoretically who have been convicted of “incitement of insurrection”. There is the issue of state powers to remove a presidential candidate
d. There is the legal issue about the nature of “official acts” and the immunity protections wrt to President Trump. His defense has not yet challenged a legal defense against the claims of the prosecutor about his immunity status and the proper reading about whether his actions were or were not iaw official action. This case remains wide open and undecided. An attempt to leap to a conclusion about how this court case will resolve now and to determine it is sufficient to invoke article 14 is absurd.
e. clearly President Trump is leading every single opponent of each “so called party” and there is no controversy regarding his highly likelihood of becoming the next President of the United States, based on these polls. Coupled with a timeline that puts the primary election dead in the center of these cases, then it becomes clear that these dubious legal cases against him are being timed to obstruct, influence and poison the election..that is to remove THE CANDIDATE MOST LIKELY TO WIN, for pure political reasons. This is obvious interference and has nothing to do with normal rule of law. Alas, why has the state and this federal case not been brought earlier and why was it suspended for nearly 3 years ..and just coincidentally materialized just before primary? No one believes this can be a coincidence.
f. In his second CONGRESSIONAL impeachment, over the Jan. 6 riot, Mr. Trump was charged with “incitement of insurrection” and acquitted! And of the 1,100 rioters prosecuted for their actions on Jan. 6, none were charged with insurrection. Any state that wishes to invoke article 14 cannot ignore and set aside that this “case” has already been disposed.
g. It is obvious to anyone that the reason that Colorado Judges have invented the “urgency” of these rulings is because the deadline to be placed on the ballot according with colorado state law is 5 January 2024. Again, if the substance of the legal construct was known and the power and the wherewithal to move to remove President Trump from the ballot was certain, why has the colorado state judges waiting until the final 11th hour to make this decision. Again, it becomes apparent this is a timed assault on the clock, so that any appeals, and final determinations will have to become superman fast in order to provide for the deadline OR argue the deadline must be extended under “extraordinary circumstance”.
h. there is a key legal challenge to the federal prosecutor that is very much going to decide whether jack smith has jurisdiction, power, and standing. This is the meese amicus certiorari. Within this legal brief is a challenge that jack smith does not have the proper constitutional power to bring this case against President Trump. Again, the fact that this legal challenge is expected to determine if the legal case against President Trump is even legitimate, will define how the charges made against him, including any work, witness, grand jury and evidence prepared by jack smith can even be allowed to proceed or to be transferred to any other proper authorized us attorney.
i. section 3, article 14 is historically in context a power to disallow for civil war confederates from being candidates…thus voters could not vote for confederate candidates post civil war. It is an important inflection point in our nations history and controversial given that while THE PEOPLE could vote for someone whom represented the same sentiment, values and faithful representation of the confederate states and its interests, they were prevented from voting for the very people who could and would have most likely been PROVEN CHAMPIONS of that political agency. It is also important to distinguish the context and facts about the civil war. where insurrection terminology contained in the section 3 was describing DIRECT VIOLENT MILITARY ACTION AGAINST THE UNION WAS REGARDED AS TREASON DEFINED EXCLUSIVELY IN THAT WAY BY UNION STATE INTERESTS. The confederate states did NOT define their actions as treasonous or in the same definition of insurrection. This is again, the importance of understanding that war, what the legal and the constitutional differences are important to understand. We cannot simply assert the term “insurrection” with respect to President Trump, in any way shape or form to be even similar to what clause 3 was describing and the reasons why it was developed. it should be uncontroversial the reasons WHY clause 3 of article 14 has never been invoked against a President of the United States, but lets be very clear to that reason: NO PRESIDENT HAS EVER FORMED A STANDING ARMY WITH MILITARY TRAINING WITH THE SPECIFIC OBJECT TO VIOLENTLY BATTLE OVER POWER. Not once. And certainly no one on J6 did so, and neither did President Trump organize, incite, or even dare to “murmor” a purpose to create such a civil war insurrection or any other form of treason to his oath.
j. President Trump legal team has developed a perfectly acceptable reason for his direct involvement and reasons for official actions to inspect for an to be suspicious of election fraud. The FBI AN DOJ AND OTHER INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY AGENCIES were briefing him daily on foreign interference. There was unparallelled evidence of election irregularities and inexplicable court ruling when presented with reasonable evidence of fraud. The President of the United States, thus has a duty, a responsibility AND THE IMMUNITY TO ACT in the way that he did to use his position of power to draw attention to these outrageous facts. We can agree or disagree as to the merit, and even the style and meter of his judgement, but there is nothing that President Trump did that would even raise close to the meaning of insurrection or even treason. One could easily make the argument soundly that being silent and NOT discussing openly his views about irregularities, and fraud would have been a failure to perform his duty ..and his sworn oath to defend the constitution. These argument, perfectly on solid constitutional grounding have not yet been made in court and thus clause 3 of Article 14 cannot be made until that controversy in court is satisfied.
God Bless America
Perfect summation.
It’s important we all understand as much of these cases as possible. I deposit these bullets items, because anyone thinking that this is a single attempt to subvert THE PEOPLE and to interfere in an election needs a wake up call. They scoundrels will never stop. ever. So we have to be vigilant and active to defeat them at every single encounter. I am of the opinion that cannot happen unless we understand THE LAW, OUR HISTORY AND THE KIND OF ENEMY WE ARE FACING. It is evil and it has power. It will not be easy, but we must fight each and every single day. I do not believe we can put these rabid dogs down at this time. There is not yet enough pain to organize properly and provide justice to that enemy…yet. In the meantime, we SKIRMISH to give our enemies a battle within the circumstances we find ourselves. I do not believe failure is an option. We may have setbacks, we will win some, but this war is inevitable for almost exactly the same reasons the civil war was certain 10 years before the first shot was fired.
I pray about these things and ask for peace but if not peace, then righteous cause.
God Bless America
Well said! Sometimes “righteous cause” is more important than “peace.”
Well parsed, Brother!
Regitiger – of all those, I find the 4H section of the Meese filing VERY interesting as it makes sense as far as the law…but then again with Pres Trump there is no standard of law with the Left.
Thank you, Regitiger! Excellent, as always!
Does everyone remember the cup on Gov Gretchen Whitmer’s desk that said simply “86 45”? Pure effing evil this Jezebel reincarnate.
According to the Fox News
The CO republican party just appealed the ruling keeping PTrump off
the ballot? They sent it to SCOTUS. Has PTRump actually filed an
appeal. Greg Jarret said they the CO rep party has standing to file
the appeal.. They would be harmed as they would be deprived
of thier choice of candidate.
Standing or no, I cannot imagine PDJT relying on any other party to fulfill his obligation to appeal in order to extend the stay past January 4.
Putting his fate in the hands of a state party would be a poor choice.
Very late to the discussion but here’s my scary version…
With law enforcement in the Communist tank, as we saw in 2020 and 2022, who’s going to stop SoS’s who simply leave PDJT off the ballot, court decisions or not?
Also, who’s going to stop the GOP if they decide, with all the hooplah, that primaries aren’t going to work so they switch to the caucus model of selecting a candidate?
I still see this as a method of GOP voter discouragement, regardless of outcome, and designed to increase Communist infiltration at the local and state levels. Why else push so hard in already slam-dunk blue states.
I live in such a state and we’ve had all mail-in ballots for over 20 years. Portland, Salem and Eugene rule the state with an iron Communist fist. However, geographically, the state is solid conservative. The Communists are like a virus. They exist to spread and infect. Every locality that falls to their infection is another one lost. Our votes go into the mail or into a kiosk and the county clerk and staff counts them. What’s that Treehouse saying about it’s who counts the votes?
Yup.
SD why do you think the bad guys won’t be able to replicate the cheating of 2020?
Does this leave 48 more states to try this bu!!shit?
This is what a rigged election looks like.
They are the enemies of democracy
Republicans and ALL Americans must unite behind President Trump and stand shoulder to shoulder against the leftist lunatics who are destroying the foundations of our country.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GCXjB33aIAA3rc9?format=jpg&name=small
I wouldn’t be so sure the industrial strength voter fraud that was deployed in 2020 won’t be used in 2024.
Zuck alone spent $350 million.
Next year probably close to a $billion.
This has always been my main concern – “but the court declined to weigh in for now on whether Trump is eligible to run in the general election and serve again as president.”
Allow PDJT to become the GOP Primary candidate then backstep their initial rulings stating that he cannot remain on the General Election ballot thereby completely eliminating a conservative candidate; MAGA or GOPe to be a representative option. This would require a full fledged write-in campaign push.
While this is still do-able, we also saw what Colorado Supreme Court did, by writing in a clause to prohibit a write-in candidate.
Every State GOP party organization better be table-topping each & every one of these possibilites.
PS. Dan Crenshaw is still an oxygen thief.
My fear is that the left, knowing they cannot steal it, will commit patently obvious election fraud in favor of Trump, in order to delegitimize his election and have it overturned. Sort of like J6 was a false flag to besmirch Trump and his supporters, who is to say the left would not run a false flag “stolen election”? You know that the media would support the narrative and judges would suddenly appear who would grant standing to everybody and his brother to bring lawsuits against Trump’s victory. Maybe I’m being too paranoid. Has anybody else thought of this? I hope there would be a plan to thwart such an effort…..
Surely worth some consideration, an interesting thought.
Seeing as how they can’t stage a convincing insurrection, something they haven’t done for about a hundred and fifty years so naturally they are out of practice, but they do have a lot of election theft experience available . . .
It can be sloppy bumbling and over the top obvious and the news would run crazy with it, and it needn’t be an overall theft of the entire thing, it could be just enough tomfoolery to set the stage . . .
The Feebs are pretty doltish when they try to manipulate MAGA, but they can always find fools I suppose, newly MAGA voting Antifa types or something.
As someone who served in Iraq during two elections over there…nothing beats the purple finger and ID!! Yes, Iraqi’s had to have a form of ID and that ink would last on your finger for days…no cheating there.
I understand you point, but isn’t it true that the candidates that were allowed to be on the ticket were more of less pre-selected?
furthermore, purple thumbs and paper ballots is the equivalent of “votes” …it does not disclude the very real possibility that BALLOTS can be invented.
all purpose thumbs DO is a protection against a single person voting more than once. that’s it.
what our voting reforms are missing is a means to inspect for ballot fraud///envelope fraud. a means to reconcile that a single vote and ballot can be connected to a legal, authentic, breathing human being who is a citizen and that they the vote is MARKED correctly to the intent of that person AND that there is no internal corruption whether man made or digital to transform that vote to any other. In addition, our voting reforms are missing a means to inspect that all persons who did vote were counted, and that persons who decided NOT TO VOTE, their votes were NOT COUNTED. In addition, our voting reforms are misssing a valid means to rely on a identification system that is broadly used and standardized among all states. NOT DRIVERS LICENSES (D/L can be issued to non us citizens!). In addition, our voting reforms are missing independent audits of both fraud detection and forensic chain of custody. In addition, our voting reforms are missing law enforcement to push back against ballot mules, and unprotected drop boxes. In addition, our voting reforms are missing state legislatures who are faithful to the state constitution with respect to deadlines for voting. In addition, our voting reforms are missing limits or even prohibitions of NGO’s to finance private voting ballot harvesting, that does include paying people for votes, pre-filling voter cards and otherwise providing some prize or meal or value in exchange for a vote. Our voting reforms are also missing something fundamental about how votes are weighted unfairly through a electoral college scheme. Why should the voters in DC, who are less than 1 Million people, have the same EC votes as the entire state of Louisiana, who’s voting population is nearly 4 times that? The ec scheme unfairly represents smaller populations against larger population. And this isn’t just a mathematical reality. It is in fact a form of discrimination. Fact IS that our nations can still be a REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC and correct this unfairness in the EC by simply adopting a proportional vote. Most people get very confused over this because for years they have been repeatedly indoctrinated that EC scheme are consitutionally sound and that anything else to replace it would be to reduce that part of our republic to a mere popular vote. THIS IS NOT TRUE AND IT IS PROVABLE NOT TRUE. The fundamental reason that we have flyover states (states that will never make a difference in the outcomes in a presidential election and thus candidates don’t even both to visit or represent them) IS BECAUSE OF THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE CURRENT EC SCHEME. If you really want to see a representative republic and all states (THE PEOPLE) fairly represented, then we must have proportional voting. This ends the gerry mandering and the other corruption within each state that favors those in power at the time and the party affiliation of a court judge. IF WE THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO FUNDAMENTALLY RESTORE OUR POWER OR CONSENT TO BE GOVERNED, WE MUST BE FAIRLY AND EQUALLY REPRESENTED IN OUR NATIONAL LEADER. AND I WOULD ARGUE THE SAME FOR OUR STATE LEADER..and congress.
a purpose thumb does not solve these things. Yes, I have heard this claim so many times and it was never correct. There is much more to a fair and equal and fraud free election than dipping a thumb in ink. In fact, I would argue it is done to give the illusion of fairness.
just something to think about
yes, we have a long long long way to go before we have a fair, free, open, and fraud free election.
suck it bill barr, you lunatic!
God Bless America
Hey Reti, we need a system that has consequences for cheating. Barack had observed that voter fraud “has no punishment and we need legislation to fix that.” It was really a tell. Because there is no punishment the Dems have gone all in on election fraud.
The average participation for all presidential elections from the Great Depression is 63%. That means 37% make a choice not to vote. That is just as valid a choice but doesn’t give the politicians much to work with.
We now have concierge voting where the Dems will text someone who hasn’t voted and “ask” them to “just tell us you won’t vote”. Is that the list the Dems use to produce ballots?
Not sure about messing with the Electoral College. If we can get real votes counted and fraudulent votes discarded (dual authentication on a cell phone?) this would change dramatically.
just a random observation: If you would put some paragraphs between thoughts in posts it would help me digest your most important thoughts.
Thanks for all you do..