After declaring a “Local Health Emergency” to ban the carrying of firearms in/around Alburquerque, New Mexico Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham explains her position by saying the rights of crime victims supersede the constitutional rights of all New Mexico citizens. Victimhood defines the constitution now.
Additionally, the Democrat Governor announced that her oath to uphold the constitution is not absolute. {Direct Rumble Link} WATCH:
I guess an argument could be made that we should all be getting used to the insanity that surrounds the Democrat worldview, but this is just remarkable in the extreme. This is a test for the people in New Mexico. It will be interesting to see how the citizens react.
It’s getting hotter:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/full-authoritarian-new-mexico-governor-restricts-constitutional-gun-rights-law-abiding
Uh Oh!
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/new-mexico-governors-unconstitutional-gun-grab-so-top/
Governor Grisham is now the arbiter of what is and isn’t Constitutional.
The woman needs to be removed from office just as quickly as the citizens of New Mexico can vote her out.
Will they do it? Time will tell.
Vote her out? Her actions are illegal per prior Supreme Court precedent, not to mention a class 4 Felony in her particular state. The Sheriff sitting next to her should have let her finish, stood her up, read her rights to her then arrested her on the spot.
But instead ALL those LEO’S sitting at that monstrous round table with her, seem in full agreement with her. How PATHETIC is that?
No one is coming to save you
That’s why there is a 2nd Amendment
Reminds me of the “white coat” doctors standing behind Obama during his fundamental transformation of healthcare……some were “actors”, some were staff members and some were AMA loons. All a show for the plebs.
no real policy that helps Americans so they have to bring in Hollywood.
Instead, he should be FIRED. RECALLED!!!
I really dont think the citizens of new mexico will vote her out.
Voting her in was what the still want just like they will get anothet jab.👀😳
She needs to be removed immediately, by charging her with violating her oath to the constitution.
Vote her out? No, my fellow Marine Brother, she needs impeached and removed from office immediately for usurping the Constitutional Rights of the citizens of N.M.
She needs to be arrested for breaking Constitutional law. Military tribunal.
Sipping lattes as they watch balloons aloft in their skies, is more appealing to most of them.
Surely there are people who understand our INALIENABLE Rights there. Please, God!
NM is the republic of shurg your shoulders. They will do nothing.
Impeach/Recall.
So then our duty to obey is not absolute?
Exactly. Do as I say, not as my Police force does. I hold the power, you have none.
Excellent comment Richard, pithy and to the point. As for the good governess alls I can say to her is molon labe.
Plain and Simple….
She. Is. Nuts.
Worse, she is a tyrant.
Is it just me or does it seem the she’s-in-charge seem to really really get into being totalitarians.
She is a fascist LIBERAL DEMOCRAT. Just look at the miserable arrogant face and it is obvious. They all look like that.
Grisham is a petty, self-centered, drunk-on-power tyrant.
Signed, a Conservative Citizen of New Mexico (and we are VERY rare in this blue-blue-blue state, hence the insanity)
Or maybe she’s just drunk, from the looks of the amount of taxpayer money she spent to stock up her private bar.
i think it is dangerous and dismissive to write these people off as nuts or “insane.”
they are stone cold sober, clear-eyed ideologues. that is significantly more dangerous to the former republic.
The majority of middke class and upper class women in Germany during the 1930’s supported Hitler.
Response from Sheriff of Bernalillo County, AZ., John Allen, who will not be complying with the tiny Governor Michelle Grishom who is finding out NO one alters the Constitution that belongs to We The People.
Gov. Grishom can and must be escorted out of office; compelled to resign or impeached because she did break her oath, and because she FORGAVE HERSELF she nearly succeeded in her deceit to violate the People of AZ. by subversion by declaring armed citizens illegal, putting them at risk of harm and death by armed criminals while maintaining an armed security detail using live ammunition for just herself.
Grishom must be unforgiven for her premeditated decision to overthrow The People and because her severe punishment and removal of all powers must be sufficient to cause the firm removal from office of all who might imitate Grishom’s deceitful aggression against The People and the Constitution.
The People are legally allowed and encouraged to stop Government powers by force of deadly weapons, at all levels, Municipal, County, State and Federal; all offices elected and appointed and hirelings. The 2nd Amendment is NOT about hunting. It is solely about the will and responsibility of The People to control Government by force if necessary.
No one has more power in the US then US Citizens.
Make her write it on a Blackboard 100 times. There is no forgiveness for the unrepentant. That’s the real law.
READ Sheriff John Allen’s official statement; Sheriff Allen WILL NOT COMPLY:
The rise in gun violence, especially by repeat criminals, is because the most basic laws go unenforced in woke New/Northern Mexico.
To claim a right of emergency reflects incompetence at several levels, at least.
But I suspect a more likely bias toward tyranny and treason. (look up treason, acts against the people and the Constitution)
Lujan-Grisham is most certainly on the payroll of the cartels that rule New Mexico.
Bernalillo County is in NM, not AZ. Gov. Grisham is now violating the rights of NM citizens.
The people of AZ have already had their rights violated by the installation of Katie Hobbs over of the actual winner, Kari Lake.
Maybe write”Gov. Grisham, and Bernalillo County, are in NEW MEXICO,….NOT AZ.” 100 times on a chalk board?
Hey, when a person comes on this board angry, drunk, and ranting, they’re not going to get all the details right, you know?
Such attention to the important stuff–like state of jurisdiction–lets the reader know just how useful such posts really are.
Nowhere did the Sheriff indicate that he would “not comply.” His statement is rather an “I don’t like it but I want to keep my job & I’m more worried about my Deputies being sued.” He is “wary.” And, further:
“In conclusion, while we might not be in complete alignment with the Governor’s recent order, we remain steadfast in our commitment to work collaboratively, both with her office and with the community…”
He needs to figure out what he wants to be when he grows up. Now is the time to throw his badge on the table and tell her she can’t do this and that he’s obligated to arrest her if she persists. ABQ Chief of Police is obligated to do the same. It’s in their oath. You can look it up.
yeah – i saw that stated a couple times, and then hoped that what the poster above wrote had been copied and pasted from his response.
but reading the tweet, his response was VERY wishy washy, IMO.
Grisham is Governor of the State New Mexico (1912) – not Arizona.
Sheriff never says he won’t enforce the order. Just says he has reservations about it.
Most people are sheep so they’ll tolerate it until they have to actually suffer the consequences for it.
Remember Gorsuch’s opinion on the violation of civilian’s rights during 2020? Just run that on a loop … forever.
The duty of the police of New Mexico to protect “Greta” Gresham from irate voters is not absolute, either. They can cut and run without defending her if they think their lives are endangered.
they know who pays their check and pension. that will not happen. and the statements that Bernalillo Cty had refused to comply are highly overstated.
so, there are no men or Constitutional adherents left in the state, apparently.
Then her rights to life, liberty and tge pursuit of happiness aren’t absolute either…oh well.
I think this may be starting to backfire, its looking like she overshot her mark.
May well be one of the wait a week, or 3 to “see what happens”..?
IMO, letting inertia do its duty will ASSURE the next trial balloon is larger and more extreme.
but, we’ve been doing it for a long time, now, so…. might as well stand down yet again.
Whitmer 2.0
Ja, aspiring Obergruppenfuehrerin.
What is it with these loony women in positions of authority? Mi., NY, NM…then there’s the prosecutors.
A: Jezebel.
Revelation ch 2 v 29/23
20Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. 21And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. 22Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. 23And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
I may be wrong, but I think the Gipper was really thinking of the Jezebel in the Holy Bible’s I Kings 19-21, and II Kings 9. That one fits Grisham to a T. And maybe her fate will be similar too….
Same, same. The spirt of, consistent thru the ages.
if we’re revoking rights due to health emergencies, i say the 19th is up for review.
Again, I cannot see how that sheriff can sit there and not read her the constitution, and inform her he will not enforce her edict. I am beside myself with this bullcrap! We need to throw people like this out on their ear and tell them to never come back! We need to respond that her constituents have no absolute duty to obey her rules!
But the sheep of New Mexico unanimously elected her. What does that tell you about them?
Isn’t this considered failure to uphold the oath of office and quite possibly a violation of the NM constitution? I would think she could be removed from office by the legislature. What is funny to me is if a cop violates a citizens constitutional rights under the color of authority they will go to prison. If a politician violates those same rights there’s no punishment at all. At least not anymore.
Not gonna happen. The vast majority in our legislature are her democrat lackey-flunkies. That’s why she feels she can get away with anything. And most of the citizens of New Mexico are bluer-than-blue, especially in the major city of Albuquerque. They don’t care. Most of them have never even stopped wearing their covid masks, even outdoors.
I understand that completely. I was just making a point for people to understand the corruption WE all face as a nation. You are not alone. There are many states, even the ruby red ones that are secretly following NMs path under the cover of darkness and without the citizens knowledge. It’s just quieter and less public here, but it’s the same machine reworking the system in THEIR favor until WE like you all have been duped into believing that the globalists and left have legitimate power and there’s nothing you can do about except wait for 2 yrs and vote in the next election. While they plunder a nation.
the only punishment these creeps will ever receive is if the people do it in the streets, themselves.
At this point in history you are absolutely correct. I’ve been saying this since 2022 after I moved to a ruby red state and found out the people here are as red as it gets but the government is corrupted beyond belief. Super majority of RINOs pretending to be something they’re not. Conservative. I worked w the Lt. Gov on an education task force, what I thought was going to help enrich the government school system here. Rude awakening to our national problem. It was actually a task force to publicly out the DEI, Marxism, and sexulization of the children in the public schools here. In this ruby red state she and we were extremist and racists. That’s just what the establishment Republicans and the local propaganda machines called us. In fact it was prevalent in a lot of the schools here and the establishment allowed it to happen unbeknownst to most of the citizens. We were ineffective because of the secret globalist hold on every system here and eventually she lost her bid for Governor as did every conservative on the slate except for the AG. I believe they manipulated the results because they own the system. After working on many campaigns and watching how the system works in this “ruby red” state I came to the conclusion that every supposed red state is a delusion and the globalists have some sort of control over every system in those states depending on its importance to the end game of the globalists and that we are at a point that we can no longer vote our way out of becoming 1- autonomous from their system because they own the system and control what we see. 2 saving this nation from becoming a vassal state of a one world government. No self absorbed billionaire is going to save us from our apathy. The only way to fix this problem without bloodshed at this point is for 100s of thousands of Americans to stop everything and go on strike. Go into the streets and stay there, tell them we do not abide by their treason. Remove all of the treasonous sell outs from office. A national movement. You saw the beginnings with the truckers strike in Canada. When it started to spread here though it was stopped immediately. Because they know that would destroy their plans and their illusion of power over the people. Same w Rittenhouse. If you look back that one event after almost all of the riots stopped nation wide. Sadly WE are to weak and unorganized as a nation to do anything of the sorts. So they will keep on testing how far they can go until every last screw is tightened down on the door of freedom of this Republic and it will be shuttered for ever and replaced with a system of global slavery of the likes the world has never seen. Trump is about the only one I’ve seen that could organize something like this but he’s too busy trying to win an unwinnable game because they own the system and will do everything they can to snuff him out. Or so it seems.
Funny enough Winter on Fire on Netflix should be every red white and blue citizen of this former Republic game plan to restoring her back to our Founding Fathers vision. Funny because it took place in the Ukraine and because is was a color revolution backed by the CIA under Obama. But they gave us the game plan and the Obama run board published it on Netflix for the world to see. That is our only path to freedom without bloodshed from our side at this pont. Because 2A maybe holding them back a bit, but if it ever got to that point years from now when it’s way to late, WE will only die for our country as insurectionist, and they will still be in power. The time to act is now, because we are just one election away from another turn of the screw in the wrong direction.
When seconds matter, the police are minutes away.
I think that Leo Hohmann is on the right track with this one –
“By using the term “public health emergency,” this radical New Mexico governor is testing out a policy straight from the United Nations World Health Organization.”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/anyone-who-complies-illegal-unconstitutional-edicts-like-one/
Direct link at Leo Hohmann’s web site –
Anyone who complies with illegal, unconstitutional edicts like the one just announced by New Mexico’s governor is complicit in America’s slide into totalitarianism
Published by Leo Hohmann
Independent author, researcher, writer
September 9, 2023
https://leohohmann.com/2023/09/09/anyone-who-complies-with-illegal-unconstitutional-edicts-like-the-one-just-announced-by-new-mexicos-governor-is-complicit-in-americas-slide-into-totalitarianism/
Consider this….an over reach of authority is often a response to perhaps, feeling powerless in some other related realm?
Of note…a bleached blonde, fat, overly accessorized in silver jewelry….and no doubt black sox with brown shoes.
I know I will face criticism from some on this site, but what she is saying makes total sense, if you can just view it from her perspective. Try to walk a mile in her shoes before you criticize her for her comments.
Michelle got married to her first husband when she was very young – early 20’s. She knew then that the vows they said at their wedding were flexible, because, well, a vow isn’t absolute. So who knows how many other people they banged under that understanding of what a “vow” means? And it was very likely verbal, so how could it be enforceable? When she placed her hand on “The Hitchiker’s Guide To the Galaxy” as Governor and vowed to uphold and defend the Constitution, was it reduced to writing? DUH! NO!!!!
It’s like testifying in a Court. You vow to tell the truth, but it’s not absolute. Tell it the way YOU think it should be told. Truth be damned – it’s about YOU! It ain’t absolute, it’s just a vow.
Good for YOU, Michelle!! Stand up for what YOU believe, and to hell with rest of us morons who comply with those silly “laws”.
I should add that this woman is the most embarrassing Governor in the United States, listen up New Mexico! The pattern of emotional thinkers exercising irrational authoritarian power is accelerating exponentially. It’s not sad, it’s dangerous.
“I know I will face criticism from some on this site, but what she is saying makes total sense,…..”
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Indeed it is dangerous!
She knew what she was doing.
The way democrats redefine things to suit their whims and agendas is ridiculous.
Apparently her oath only identified as an oath until she re-identified her oath to support her authoritarian desires.
It was a morality-fluid oath.
It was a trans-oath.
This was not done without thinking it out.
It is totalitarianism.
This was deliberate, and if they get away with it they will go for much, much more.
And they continue to get away with it.
Until it is stopped by We the People.
I just read that the former Governor died in his sleep. Hmm ..
The only people at the
@RonDeSantis
tent are his staff. Doesn’t look very fun…
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/new-mexico-sheriff-tells-tyrannical-governor-he-will/
From 2 people I never cared to read anything they say
Here’s a post @End’Wokeness with 2 tweets
They use the exact same phrasing in those tweets. I’m not saying some deep-state op writes there tweets, but if they did, would it be any different?
Perhaps AI bots?
Our God given constitutional rights are absolute, permanent, irrevocable, and cannot be suspended even in the presence of a real or supposed emergency.
She just declared herself unfit for office.
Sounds to me she’s a walking, talking example of a medical emergency.
And increased President Trump’s numbers in a very blue state.
Anyone who sends a deputy or police officer out with orders to enforce this unconstitutional and unlawful order is asking for a violent confrontation with law-abiding citizens. This could get law enforcement officers killed if they are foolish enough to try and enforce this outrage.
There will be “law enforcement” who go along with it, and it could result in the deaths of citizens, too.
It is unconstitutional. It is illegal.
It is exactly what democrats have wanted for a long, long time.
Call them out and hold them accountable.
whether it is pretty or not, the principle is simple:
DO NOT COMPLY with illegitimate government or illegitimate orders. you don’t need to flaunt it, but you should not hide from it either. if someone attempts to compel you to, you have every right to defend yourself. and if you are a decent human being and you see someone else being compelled, you must come to their defense as well.
we are not going to be able to tweet and thumbs up our “support” and online rage our ways around this for much longer if we want the republic back.
I used to joke that we did not need to worry about Big Brother. We should worry about Big Mother.
The erstwhile female dictators that have sprung up in the USA in the last few years: Hochul, Whitmer, Hobbs, Grisham, among others.
All variations on Nurse Ratchett
Ratched.
Does this idiot realize that the criminals are the ones doing the shootings. The ones she refuses to put in jail. Used to be glad to see women getting elected into positions of authority. Will make sure I never vote for another one unless it is for Kari Lake
“Does this idiot realize that the criminals are the ones doing the shootings.”
of course they realize that. that is NOT the purpose of these trial balloons.
Where are the county sheriffs? Local police chiefs? Are they all traitors? What blue state will follow next?
This woman is a criminal.
and yet still, the people of NM consent, and yet still, no LEO steps in to stop it.
And, no…it wasn’t the NRA to bring the first law suit.
(again, why do people continue to pay them membership fees?)
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/legal-fight-expected-after-new-mexico-governor-suspends-103057476
NM, CA, TX, FL, AZ, all seem to be gravitating to Latin American style politics.
Grisham should go all in, declare a“Pronunciamento” and declare herself governor for life. She could then void the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo and make a march on her neighbor’s territory.
I suggest El Paso.
Thought experiment: What if Governor Grisham saw FBI numbers that blacks disproportionately account for 10 times the violent crime of whites and declared blacks a “local health emergency”
Would she be applauded for saying her duty to uphold the Constitution is not absolute?
Dems and their Deep State apparatchiks have pretty much made the Bill of Rights toilet paper. They do it more and more because nobody stops them. GESTAPOBAMA has no qualms about putting someone in solitary for 2+ years, attorney/client privilege is gone, unreasonable search and seizure, spying on and summarily executing perceived regime enemies are now commonplace. Biden has ignored every single court ruling against him. Mark Meadows and Steve Bannon are indicted for contempt of congress for ignoring subpoenas. Dem federal employees do it every other day and nothing comes of it.
Testing the waters. The left always does this.
It sure as hell is absolute, fire the dumb broad.
This is entirely typical of people like this: “laws for thee but not for me.” Rule by fiat: “I am a monarch.” And history plainly tells us that our only but decisive response must be – figuratively speaking, in this case – “off with her head!”
People like these always believe that their own power and discretion is absolute, while you and millions of people like you have none. You must give them no quarter. None. Because they, too, will give you nothing, if you allow it.
“You must give them no quarter. None. Because they, too, will give you nothing, if you allow it.”
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EXACTLY!
Michelle has always been on the fringe. Doctrinaire ideology is the only way to advance in her party.
Here comes the first challenge.
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/national-assn-for-gun-rights-files-first-suit-challenging-nm-gov-grishams-unconstitutional-carry-ban/
In other news, pigs are flying.
https://thelibertydaily.com/violates-us-constitution-even-radical-leftists-ted-lieu/
And here comes the second challenge :
https://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/gov.uscourts.nmd_.492599.2.0.pdf
This second challenge specifies a total of four defendants. In addition to (a) the Governor of NM and (b) the Secretary of the NM Department of Health (as identified in the first challenge), this next challenge includes (c) Jason R. Bowie, Cabinet Secretary of the NM Department of Public Safety and (d) W. Troy Weisler, Chief of the NM State Police.
Upon reading the following excerpts from this second challenge, I had to remind myself that all of this is no smiling matter:
… New Mexico Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham and Department of Health Secretary Patrick M. Allen (“Defendants”) have asserted the unilateral power to suspend constitutional rights and impose what is essentially martial law.
Aware that local authorities have publicly announced that they are unwilling to enforce this clearly unconstitutional edict, and have staunchly refused to participate in Defendants’ scheme to deprive their constituents of their constitutional rights, Defendants have ordered the New Mexico State Police to act as a private army of stormtroopers to be sent en masse to enforce Defendants’ open and notorious subversion of constitutional rights.
(Emphasis mine)
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Excellent. The Empress of New Mexico won’t be best pleased.
I can’t reproduce it but I have seen a short video of her swearing in, hand on the Bible.
God won’t be best pleased either.
It would have been nice if some reporter would have asked this stupid tyrannical b1tch how many of those innocent children who have been killed/injured, that she is so concerned about, in her unconstitutional decree, were killed by someone/anyone who was legally conceal carrying or open carrying a gun and did not have a criminal history.
How many of these children, she is sooo concerned about, did the average law abiding, permit-carrying New Mexican injure or kill? We all, already, know the answer. And so does she. Nada!
We ALL know what this is about and so do the Police Chief and Sheriff of Alburquerque City & County, respectively. They have already stated, They Will Not Comply.
I just hope the people of New Mexico rise up and start raising hell with their legislators to impeach the b1tch, while raising hell with the Governor too. If they don’t, they deserve what they get and the consequences. BUT, then again, they elected the b1tch in the first place.
“announced that her oath to uphold the constitution is not absolute…”
Uhh, yes, madam, it IS.
New Mexico, do your duty and remove this petty tyrant from her position – NOW!
Notice how the same left wing radicals like Grisham who say Constitutional rights are not absolute but act like their power as an elected official is.
She will get away with doing this because nobody will do anything about it other than write strongly worded letters or tweets. During COVID the Government used the “Public Health Emergency” excuse for taking Constitutional Rights away from everyone and nothing was done to stop that insanity either.
Exactly 💯
It’s a “Public Health Emergency” for ANY Government official to suspend or violate Constitutional Republic Citizens Rights 🤔.
Lock 🔐 these antiConstitutional tyrants down, up and out…permanently.
How arrogant and tyrannical! She says, “I’ve declared”, and “I can”, she’s a party of one. Hitler?!
And why is crime ‘out of control’ in her words? Because they are not enforcing the LAW or punishing criminals.
Instead, they choose to punish law-abiding citizens!
Ah, but that’s where the crooked people in charge (Marxists/Communists) are going!
Can anyone say tyranny? Dictator!
Agreed, the big test will be how the people of NM respond to this deceit.
There are currently 45 Democrats, 25 Republicans, and Others in the House of Representatives. There are currently 27 Democrats, 14 Republicans, and Others in the Senate.
There will be no impeachment.
The National Association for Gun Rights (NAGR) and Foster Haines (NAGR member and Albuquerque resident) filed a lawsuit against Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham and Secretary of Health Patrick Allen for Executive Order 2023-130 and a subsequent Public Health Emergency Order issued by the Secretary, which bans the public carry of firearms in Albuquerque for 30 days.
Plaintiffs are asking for a Temporary Restraining Order and a repeal of the Order.
“This is the very danger of runaway executives who believe they have unilateral authority to suspend the Constitution under the guise of an ‘emergency,’” continued Brown. “This is exactly what we warned about during COVID. It’s a tale as old as time, give emergency powers, lose fundamental rights. Google ‘Caesar’ if you want to know how that turns out.”
https://www.lootpress.com/national-association-for-gun-rights-sues-gov-lujan-grisham-over-carry-ban/
Come on folks. It’s just 30 days to slow the spread.
I think the people of New Mexico are too stupid to see their rights are being cancelled.
You know Texannie, in my experience visiting NM a few times I think you might be on to something.
Thank the government indoctrination centers (better known as “public schools”).
Most individuals have been heavily skooled in STATISM. And, yes, I intentionally misspelled that word!
A separation of education (at ALL levels) and State is L-O-N-G overdue.
Read the 10th plank of The Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto.