Generally speaking I skip most punditry stuff nowadays simply because it is fraught with too much pretending. Factually, when the baseline of the review is grounded on a false premise, the sequential review of potential outcomes is flawed and generally irrelevant.
That said, this is one of the rare punditry opinions that hits close to accurate {direct rumble link}. Everything in this brief segment is close to the mark, Ned Ryun is at least one of those pundits who actually hits the target. The flaw, part of the pretending that he misses, is in the outlook that if “republicans” -implying the RNC- can generate a ballot harvesting operation to compete, then Trump will defeat Newsom.
The issue Ryun misses is that professional republicans, the private corporations that are assembled under the unity banner of the professional republican apparatus (RNC), when given the Trump vs Newsom scenario, do not want Trump to defeat Newsom. The win/win scenario for the multinationals is a Trump defeat, irrelevant of the victor, that’s the major flaw within the pretending issue inherent in almost all political analysis. WATCH:
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All this talk of chasing ballots,,and vote harvesting,,damn folks,if we do these things,, aren’t we cheating just like the others?? Essentially becoming just as corrupt?? Becoming no better,, just more deceit,,?lies?? Just asking
It depends, do you want to win?
Have you noticed how D’s ceased trying to legislate “dark money” years ago after they figure out how to funnel money through the private sector into ballot buying & harvesting?
I am constantly amazed at the shiit that comes out of the mouths of people unwilling to FIGHT.
No $hit. There are some real weak spines here sometimes
Tandy says we should cheat! You paid to say that randy?
Hegelian dialectic at its best.
harvesting is legal in many states so no we would not be cheating. In order to change things power is needed so those with integrity must win.
Pa, Fl, Iowa Colorado, Maine, to name a few,
Yes. It is not only a stupid idea, it is morally corrupt.
Just the latest version of ‘you have a choice,’ when reality is RNC and DNC both cheat and the winners are pre-determined. Voter integrity should be priority #1. Until all states clean up their processes nothing will change.
The opportunity is in local races, where the cheating apparatus isn’t as sophisticated or well funded. The local officials can be caught and removed, a lot harder at state level. THis is especially true for electing party officials at county and precinct levels. We gotta find MAGA candidates and put them in power at the local levels.
The structure for the cheating is RNC & DNC, to State party leadership, to COUNTY RECORDERS and County boards of Supervisors, or “election boards (depending on State.)
THOSE are the people, at the county level, that ACTUALLY (as Stalin said) COUNT the votes.
And yes, I have struggled with the idea that if you adopt the methods of Satan, to beat Satan, Satan wins.
I contrast that with 2024 is THE election, there will be no do-overs or second chances, and asked myself what “fighting like the 3rd monkey” REALLY means.
And, unlike some, perhaps many in our civilised, modern society, I have LITERALLY been in a physical fight for my life, where the other guys were fully intent and focused on ending me.
And I didn’t hesitate to what was necesary, TO SURVIVE.
As for “cheating” vs “legal ballot harvesting” I believe I have laid out 3, seperate courses of action, that any who choose COULD persue.
WE, MAGA,..NEED to educate ourselves, on local election conditions AND methods used by the cheaters for cheating, especially VOTER SUPPRESSION, and then engage in a GOTV, or “legal ballot harvesting” program to educate our voters on HOW they should vote, to insure their vote counts.
EVERYONE can conyribute to this effort, we need logistics, people to make the coffee, researchers as well as people to contact by phone, text, email and yes door to door, precinct by precinct.
And while R party precinct captains (MAGA) can and should get this operation going, they will be going against the wishes of the State R party and RNC hierarchy, and “grass roots” organisations can do it, as well.
Charlie Kirks organisation holds monthly recruitment meetings, to train people in GOTV, and that might be a good alternative organisation, to get a grounding in the basics.
Secondly, VACCUUMING.
We have all heard or experienced all of the mail out ballots that were floating around.
These are NOT ballots for actual people, they are PHANTOM ballots or else they would be INSIDE someones mail box.
Hence, “vaccuuming” them up is NOT election tampering, or disenfranchising an actual voter.
Thirdly is the MF, and depending on what an individual or group does, once they locate an MF, may also not be “cheating” so much as its depriving the enemy of ammunition with which to cheat; hence you could say it is an effort to insure election integrity, its just a little more,…aggressive than lobbying for reforms.
What does “fighting like the 3rd monkey” mean to YOU?
Does it mean politely excusing yourself and asking the second monkey if you can go ahead of them?
Or does it mean doing whatever is necessary to insure you get ON that boat?
EACH must answer that question, for themselves.
Good stuff, but I don’t know what MF is.
I really appreciate everything you have been telling us
here in our treehouse. Thank you Dutchman!
Voter integrity has rarely been a part of any election where the stakes are higher.. much higher.. this is exactly why there such widespread election fraud in the US.
The only way voter integrity comes back to US elections is the utter and complete destruction of the status quo
Do you realize how many war crimes the Allies committed in WWII in order to beat the Nazis and the Japanese? A lot. My point? There’s no rules on war, regardless of what you might have heard. The winners write the history. We’re in a war in this country, make no mistake about it. That it isn’t kinetic is irrelevant. If we have to harvest and whatnot in order to beat back the evil that is the left, then so be it. Once sanity is restored, things can be made right again.
Comparing Axis war crimes to Allies war crimes is wrong. The Axis (all) litterly went in to towns as a routine and killed everyone; they literally started the war with poison gas attacks. Surprisingly, the Allies downplayed a lot of the war crimes for post war politics.
With the Axis war crimes were the norm; while with the Allies (with the exception of USSR) it was the exception.
Yes, there are “rules” in war, many follow. In fact it advantagous most of the time to follow; winning the military part of the war is only the first part, you need to win the peace (despite what some in the army think).
As for voting know your state election laws, each state is very different. No how to file a complain to the proper authority. Get involve in running the election apparatus. Get the Vote out.
Remember the the Presidential Election are under the law state elections, despite what federal statutory laws are out there, the SCOTUS has ruled many time to that effect; I am confident they still will. For example look at the states that do not appoint all there electors as a block; despite federal statutes that have been on the books at various times.
The one most important advice is get involve in the voting process now!! Do not wait for for 2014, use the 2013 elections as the election to make things work.
That’s exactly what Egypt said.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/11/egypt-music-hip-hop-mahraganat-rebellion-protests-tahrir-square-cairo
Cheating has been exposed. Enforce the appropriate laws intended to prevent that. Then conduct a LEGAL election. How simple is that?
Ballot harvesting doesn’t work because it’s like playing rock-paper-scissors and showing your hand before your opponent shows his. It would get Republican votes in early so all the Dems have to do is look at how many ballots we put in and create at least that many fake ballots for the Dem candidate.
Even if we cheated (becoming what we’re fighting against) and put in a million R fake ballots all they have to do is see that, create an equal number of D fake ballots, plus 1.
R strongholds should just refuse to post the score until the Dem areas do. I know that won’t fly because they’ve sucked people into the whole drama of counting, predicting.
I say don’t post any scores until every vote is tallied.
Two counties tried exactly that in Az, and the SOS threatened them with arrest if they didn’t, and they caved.
Would love to have seen the County Sheriffs step in and say “Don’t even think about it” but they didn’t.
Been doing a lot of research, on the intricacies of how election theft occurs, have you?
Or perhaps your still learning.
Firstly, they can not just create out of thin air, any # of ballots, and by the way it is NOT “+1” it is by at enough to avoid a recount.
Secondly, your primary argument was used to support US voting “In person, on election day” (so that they WOULDN’T know how many votes they needed).
And, confident that WE, MAGA Kari Lake voters would vote in person, on election day is why they put malware in the machines destined for KL districts on election day.
Ditto “sharpiegate”; which also depended on our voters voting “in person on election day”, and the switched zip code truck. if we vote that way, we make it easy for them to SUPPRESS our vote, and ALL they have left is suppressing our vote, and ballot envelope stuffing.
So, basically your still learning, and way behind the curve,…but thanks for playing, ..
Good points, as usual Dutchman but the rudeness is unbecoming.
No, the point is ALL VOTERS vote ONLY on Election Day. Having an “election season” is one of the major fraud magnets. If everyone has to vote only on Election Day, then if they suppress the vote, they suppress it for EVERYONE. (Which they might well do, but then we have an obvious reason to say that this was no election at all.) This is the way everybody used to always do elections, not many years ago.
(Military and overseas should go back to the way they used to do, where you have to request a ballot way ahead of time, fill it out, have your signature notarized, and send it back. Annoying, but necessary to avoid what we have today!)
And, yes, you can do anything (any number of ballots) inside a computer, which is what election machines are. You are right that they typically make it look reasonable and just over what would trigger a recount – but it’s getting where they don’t care what it looks like because they own the judges anyway. When they were supposed to do a recount here in Colorado, and were legally obligated to do it by hand – they just ignored the law and did the recount by machine!
There was one county in Colorado, in 2022, (yes, it got WORSE here since 2020) where in the secretary of state race the totals completely switched in the middle of the night (actually it looked like the totals stayed the same but the three names switched), and stayed that way till it made (conservative) news in the morning and then magically the totals switched names back to where they had been. I think it was Chaffee County; I’m trying to look it up, and I did take a screenshot at the time but not sure how to post it here.
Maybe Arizona computers don’t do all that yet – but Colorado has been called the test kitchen of election fraud, so watch out!
Source for a malware in the voting machines?
All is fair in love and war.
All that talk is a ruse to deflect attention from the “election machines” (Dominion, ESS, etc.), and the ERIC voter database and games played with electronic voter rolls (see, e.g., Professor Clements and Florida here: https://rumble.com/v2ko8ma-massive-digital-manipulation-of-voter-rolls-in-florida.html
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GOP ballot harvesting (etc.) is a shiny object intended to deflect attention from the main way(s) the UNIPARTY has whored our election process in order to serve the Globalist-CCP Axis.
Tom Wigand (“American Discerner” on Substack).
No, they can not use the Dominion ESS algorythms of vote weighting and vote flipping, any more.
And without going into all of the technical reasons why (which I have done in numerous long posts you must have scrolled past) I will just point out that they DID NOT use those systems of cheating in ANY 2022 election, including must steal Maracopa County.
And we know that because as a result of the trial, we have exposed EXACTLY the four methods they used to steal the election in Maracopa, and none were with algorythms.
BECAUSE these systems are exposed, they become unusable.
Its one thing when you accuse a high stakes poker player at your table of cheating, and they hold up their hands and say “What, me? no,…!” its quite different when you grab and turn their wrist, and everyone sees the 4 aces fall out of their sleeve.
States have left the Eric system, and we still have time before the election.
Stealing a Natl election is very challenging, especially when we have taken away a # of their methods.
Its harder to do once the legitimate winner gets over 5 points ahead, and impossible at 7+ points.
2020 was a one off, like the Trojan horse, and they can not pull it off again if we are disciplined, detirmined and understand this is up to US, NOT anybody else.
Dutchman, the elections weren’t stolen with ballots, they were stolen via propaganda and censorship. Just like all the countries in the Arab spring. Twitter and fb are how elections are stolen. Everything else is a diversion from this fact.
I saw with my own eyes a woman run the same stack of ballots thru a tabulator several times, and I saw video of several people placing stacks of ballots in post office boxes.
Did President actually win a state that stopped counting on election day?
Haven’t you figured it out yet? Good guys finish last! Just because you win by bending the rules doesn’t mean you can’t rule as our Forefathers intended. You just have to win to get to that point. The Dems have lost sight of that process, they just win and rule how they want. Beat them at their own game! We outnumber them!
Not at all. Going to collect ballots from actual voters and ensuring they get voted isn’t cheating
Dummycrappers will grab up republicans ballots and throw them in the trash
And that would the USPS. That is one Hell of an operation.
You have to fight fire with fire
cheat at your risk
Integrity is what we need not more charlstsnry
No. The Marxists established the playing field and we have to beat them at their own game.
Beat them at their own game is essentially what happens.
Don’t be so naive. There was nothing illegal in fact or implied in that statement. Ballot harvesting is legal in a number of states, including California. Next, chasing ballots is nothing more than tracking who has voted and not voted. The democrats make every day an election day when early voting begins. They have a great operation of getting out the vote, so on election day, most of their vote is in. The republicans make a half effort with the early vote and roll the dice, hoping for a big turnout on election day.
The republicans can no longer afford to do that because the dems always have a huge lead going into election day, that republicans find difficult to overcome in the 12 hours or so that the polls are open. The solution is to fully and completely embrace early voting. They have no choice and do exactly what the democrats do and that is treat every early voting day like it is election day. Get the conservative vote out early, so that on election day, it is basically clean up because most of the vote is already in, just like the democrats and they don’t have to wonder if their voters showed up that day. That is all he is saying.
You will have to be cruel to be kind.
We have to fight fire with fire. It is the only thing they understand.. Turn the other cheek? They’ll just hit the other one, and beat up the rest of your body. They play by no rules. They are thugs.
Thank you Carl. You’re doing exactly what we expect our fellow citizens across the aisle to do – play fair. If we cheat too we devolve into rampant corruption and the country will be nothing better than what Egypt or Libya has – out of control authoritarians with no accountability.
Is there any reason why we can’t fix the broken voting system and restore it to what our founders intended? Is our government so corrupt that we have no chance of this?
Democrats make fake ballots we should too! You can win by the rules, if the other side cheats!
Can’t win
Good grief!
President Trump took the high road in 2020, determined to “swamp their vote-by-mail with election day votes.” It worked, but only until after the Democrats learned how many votes were needed where and then miraculously “found” them. Throwing a massive amount of Republican VBM and harvested ballots into the post-election day mix denies the Democrats the ability to slow-count until they win. It levels the playing field.
Thomas Paine wrote in Common Sense:
“But where, say some, is the King of America? I’ll tell you, friend, he reigns above, and doth not make havoc of mankind like the Royal Brute of Great Britain….For as in absolute governments the King is law, so in free countries the law ought to be king…”
‘The deep state’ has left fingerprints on its silent insurrection. It has seized power by gradually seizing the election process. It is the invisible force directing an invisible hand. It controls our elections.
The Algorithm Kingmaker in America
After 2016 ‘they’ reset the hidden cheat ciphers and stole the 2020 election in plain sight. In some places ‘they’ left a tangible footprint, a visible mess via its ballot harvesting and ballot stuffing operation.
If you are going to fake more than a million ballots in Pennsylvania, you are going to make one helluva mess doing so.
Engelbrecht and Phillips put eyeballs on mules stuffing ballots in drop boxes and traced the pings to mule pick ups (Democrat hot spots), likely ending that plan for good.
Postal contractor, truck driver, Jesse Morgan also put eyeballs on ballots before he drove them from Bethpage NY to Harrisburg Pennsylvania, likely ending that plan for good. Crossing state lines was either a huge mistake or a sloppy way to sub-contract fixing ballots.
Poll watchers Stenstrom and Hoopes believe they also put eyeballs on these ballots. They were hidden behind closed doors at a huge off the beaten path counting facility with lots of floors, doors, and elevators, called the Wharf Building in Delaware County PA.
I believe this massive operation, all to give body (a by-mail ballot) to an ethereal voter created by an algorithm is too risky for the bastards to continue. They will go back to what they have done before, cheat within the machines where it is unseen.
In 2022 ‘they’ engineered a narrow victory in the House—while at the same time they kept (Godzilla) candidates like Keri Lake from winning. Then republicans went and blamed the MAGA King, President Donald J Trump, for the red wave not materializing.
You can make the case that DeSantis is in the race not only at the behest of the Republican Club, but because he knows the invisible hand steering the algorithms may be on his side. However this could change with the entry of a new candidate like Newsom. In other words, whose turn might it be to play the part of King?
More specifically, via its captured media outlets, it supports the illusion that our elections bring about honest outcomes. Instead, whichever side of the Uni-Party presents the most controllable candidate to the hidden branch of government may actually determine the winner.
For all the world of election forums are a stage, and we are merely players.
So shall we go forth and pretend there is going to be an election? Until such time as we remove the hand that controls the invisible brute, we shall remain a Pretend Republic.
Good post!
WELL SAID SIR. VERY WELL SAID!
Poetic, but fatally flawed, as the algorythms are off the menu and EVERYTHING that goes on inside the machines is viewable, as the commenter you guys are praising would KNOW, if he had simply kept up on the testimony in the kAri Lake trial.
However, since he can’t even bother to know how to spell her name correctly, its easy to see how he wouldn’t know that, thru grassroots orgs filing Public Records Requests (Az version of Freedom of Info) they GOT the slogs from all 250 election machines used in Maracopa County.
And these slogs show everything that was done with the machines, since they were first given a final test at the factory.
They show the machines had the motherboards removed and reinstalled, with date and time and AFTER the machines had been certified.
They showed that in the 2020 election, 18,000 votes were injected for Biden, as well.
On the breaking the seals and loading the malware, the County officials gave a lame explanation under oath.
They didn’t know that *somebody* located the warehouse where the machines were stored, and tapped into the security camera system, and RECORDED them breaking the seals, removing tje motherboards, downloading the malware, testing to make sure it caused intermittent issues due to wrong ballot sizing, and then designating THOSE machines for delivery to KL districts.
Thr slogs contain 100’s of miles of code, but they can not be altered, they tell the life story of everything that is done with the machine, and they no longer have the argument by the manufactureres (Dominion) of “proprietary interest” as a way to block challengers getting access to the slogs.
So, poetic, yes. Full of sh*t, and commenting out his *ss, yes.
I refuse to dog-fight with a fellow treeper who has abused the CAP key often, but still has made some of the most enlightening posts on this website. We are fighting the same enemy, Dutchman.
I am not as prolific as you or as quick responding as you are in your comments. I am a slow fart ass, a one finger typer who tries to be comprehensible, correct with spelling and grammar in my long and short commentaries. I try to dust off nasty insults.
You said:
“as the algorithms are off the menu everything inside the machines is viewable?
Not so for the machines that maintain the registration data bases in many states.
In 2022 Zeldin in NY And OZ in PA would be in office had the voter rolls been tossed.
The casting and tabulating machines were not so much the problem.
My comments are not directed at the tabulating machines (Dominion, ES&S, Hart etc..). The work of Jeff O’Donnell and others with cast vote records who unraveled the Dominion logs in Mesa County made them viewable and hopefully unusable.
My focus was on the compromised state data bases that fill those vote casting and tabulating machines with phony voters directly or indirectly by creating the by-mail ballots, which are filled out and returned to the central tabulation centers. Companies like Konnech and ERIC make the hardware/software, but may or may not be involved with adding the ciphers.
New York and New Jersey, in particular, have catastrophically breached data bases. The cloned and fake ID’s are hidden within the data base and cannot be seen by anyone unless you are a highly skilled cyber expert specifically trying to find it….and still that may not be possible. They are partitioned by an algorithm that hides them among the real ID’s.
It is impossible for anyone to see them or access them unless you have the key to the algorithm that hides them.
But, someone did! By accident or by Devine appointment or by busting his buns for countless hours, it took Dr. Andrew Paquette over a year to crack the code in NY. You can look at the links below. If you spend the time, especially read the undercover doc article, and watch the video presentation New York Citizens Audit gave to the NYS Legislature—In particular click some of the videos on their website.
The Legislature essentially ignored
New York Citizens Audit, so registration rolls in NY remain Catastrophically Compromised as is the case in other states. Their only hope now will be in the Courts.
Neither County officials nor State Board officials (at least the ones who don’t have knowledge of them) know the algorithms exist.
This means that even Jay Valentine’s Omega 4America won’t find them. When citizens ask for the records and give them to Omega, they may find some ‘undeliverables,’ but they won’t find the hidden portion with the clones.
The entire NewYork State Board of elections data base violates State and Federal law, and must be thrown out. That will be the emphasis of the lawsuit to come. A new, secure, data base must replace it. No election conducted in the State of New York since 2007 has been legal or certifiable.
“Fraudulent records:
The data uncovered by NYCA’s research suggests that systemic election fraud is built into New York’s electoral process. The current working hypothesis is that:
I watched the K-a-ri Lake Trial. Kurt Olsen was limited to trying to prove the corrupt signature verification system.
My prayers are with K-a-ri Lake and her lawsuit. There will be one coming out of NewYork. The corrupted data base is still functioning. In fact there was a primary last month and one county never knew there was one. Certainly the lawsuit will demand the data base be destroyed and with it the algorithm that still sits there.
In the case of Maricopa the ‘undeliverable’ phantom ballots could end up in three different locations before they might be sent to a final point where they could be fraudulently filled out. The Post Office, the Board of Elections or to the printer—Runbeck
“The goal of nefarious actors would be to stuff VRAS (Voter Registration Access System) with as many names and addresses as possible and ensure they make it on the QUALVOTER list sent to Runbeck (the company that printed ballots). “The Deputy Registrar” initiative by County Recorder Adrian Fontes gave 638 volunteers from left-leaning groups, access to VRAS allowing them to process registration forms.” TGP
Apparently they did not use an algorithm to beef up their data base.
Runbeck printed, supplied, and scanned the ballots—the Postal Service delivered the returned ballots to Runbeck, no chain of custody—they were then delivered to the Maricopa tab center for days afterward and counted for days afterward.
https://www.uncoverdc.com/2023/05/25/catastrophic-loss-of-control-data-breach-in-ny-elections/
https://auditny.com
https://rumble.com/v2zbcfc-heroes-of-our-revolution-episode-one-interview-with-dr.-andrew-paquette-art.html
These types of people will not give up what worked for them before; they will continue their mule packing drop box scam even though their locations have been exposed. We need organized surveillance.
Well, yes they will not give up, but no after 2000 mules, they stopped using mules to drop off ballots, as they realised how easy it would be to follow those mules back to the “mother ship” i.e. the central location where firstly ballot “harvesters” deliver them.
They are “processed” i.e. the mail out envelope is opened and discarded, the ballot is marked (no doubt using a template to speed up the operation, or in some cases they are printed pre filled out) the ballot is stuffed into the mail in envelope, a signature is written, and in 2022, instead of ballot mules dropping them in drop boxes (at least in Maracopa County) they were dropped in ONE batch of 35,000, ON election day when the sig var system would be overwhelmed.
We know this because although they ignored chain of custody requirements,…the post office bills for every ballot delivered to runbeck, and runbeck bills for every ballot they process and deliver to the tab center.
Ooops! Runbeck billed for 35,000 more ballots than the post office, for ballots ON election day.
So yes, the key is to find the mother ship, and survelle it is a good first step.
What to do, next is up to those who find it.
THEY want to keep the operation low key, not that they are necesarily concerned with LE (although they MAY be, as they are committing numerous felonies) but even more, they fear EXPOSURE.
Creativity/imagination, ingenuity and being prepared to operate in grey areas, or not…but consider THEY can not call the cops, and in all likelyhood (with the election periods of 30-60 days) they probably are NOT working 24 hrs, 3 shifts.
We need to stop “fighting fraud” and get rid of the fraud magnets with very local, transparent elections. On paper, hand-counted, on Election Day, etc. This page has links to several tested ways to hold transparent elections: https://mycoloradogop.org/index.php/8-general/429-glass-box-elections
Yeah, and I want a pony.
GROW UP and smell the kaka.
Yes, SOME DAY, it would be NICE to have election integrity, it would be nice to have all the J6 prisoners released, it would be nice to see all the perps perp walked to the gallows,…
But that day is NOT TODAY, and it ain’t ever going to COME, unless WE fight however we have to to WIN in 2024.
I just want you to know before it is too late that the computers are the final and almost the worst part of election fraud; they are a funnel through which all the ballots go and you are not allowed to see what happens inside it. They are like the Berlin Wall where you cannot be free till you go outside the wall and/or tear it down. (I thought the Berlin Wall would never come down, too! Nothing is too difficult for God!)
The even worse part of fraud is that ALL vote reporting goes through a private company – Edison Research – and the numbers going into Edison are not the same as those that come out! And that same company is the one that is then telling the fraudsters in real-time (not just before Election Day, but DURING ELECTION DAY!) how many Republicans have voted. So the advantage the fraudsters get from early voting continues up till 6:59PM on Election Day! https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/07/shocking-analysis-election-night-reporting-companies-that-manufacture/
You can’t outvote the machines, but it’s not just the scanners, not just the tabulators, not just the reporting software, but also the continuous feedback loop of “513 red votes from this zip code this hour, better find some excuse for at least 514 blue votes there before we stop counting.”
We are surrounded; the only way is to break out of this fraudulent box they’ve put us in is to demand everything be transparent to everyone – but nobody loves what America is becoming and local officials, even here in Colorado, are more open than you might think!
“Common Sense” was one of the most influential readings in my youth.
There’s no evidence of ballot cheating and I question anyone with a source to produce it.
Quoting Michael Goodwin.
“We can’t vote our way out of this”.
Torches and pitchforks are so…1776!
“Yeah, they will just steal it again, in 2024, the way they did in 2020.”
“So, if 2024 will be “just like” 2020, then 2020 should have been “just like” 2016,…right?
put down your coffee, and try to square that circle.
You can’t.
I am not recommending that anyone commit a crime. I am not advocating that anyone commit a crime. Repeat, no crimes!!!
However, a simple observation is: if something less than 400 million people were to somehow cast 1 billion ballots, that would be absolute proof that the system is completely broken, and no sane person could ever deny it. From there, we might start getting to a system that actually functions. Short of that sort of irrefutable proof, I have no expectation that our elections will ever be real, and maybe they never were.
Repeating once again– neither I, nor anyone else I know about, is participating in, recommending, advocating, or promoting any sort of crime whatsoever. We have just noticed some things — including that it is possible for too many ballots to be cast.
See, e.g., PA in 2020. More votes cast than registered voters (even the fraudulent ones on the rolls). Still certified the results.
if machine vote is programmed to an upper limit mistaken generating billion can be avoided
Ballot harvesting will not save the GOP. You don’t win by copying the other team’s plays from last season.
It’s not about winning. The GOPe / RNC talking about ballot harvesting is a ruse / shiny object to divert attention from fraudulent voter rolls and the machines.
It’s all a UniParty operation. The UniParty, in turn, is a subsidiary of the Globalist-CCP Axis.
Tom Wigand (“American Discerner” on Substack)
WHO, here in the treehouse, is paying ANY attention to snything the GOPe/RNC is saying, …and WHY would anyone listen to them?
THEY are the enemy WE MAGA are fighting to overcome.
WE are NOT trying to save the GOP!
WE are trying to save our country, our way of life, our progeny and ourselves.
And no, you go them one better. You hijack their system, like intercepting their pass, because you know their play.
Its NOT playing last season (fighting the last war) it is adapting to the tactics if your enemy, in order to win.
All is fair in love and war.
I can’t watch the anti Trump, anti Steyn arrogant Piers Morgan but I’m sure sundance’s analysis about the RNC pretending is accurate.
Especially, “the private corporations that are assembled under the unity banner of the professional republican apparatus (RNC), when given the Trump vs Newsom scenario, do not want Trump to defeat Newsom.”
DeSantis openly betrayed P Trump for arguably the 1st time during the raid on MAL. It is impossible to calculate how many “Republicans” are actively opposing him now and will continue to do so until Newsom wins.
Then there are the disappointing people that have become nitwits like the once admirable and affable Ainsley Earhardt who stated that “Gov. Newsom has the look to become President.” Looks are the main appeal to some voters and issues are second. .
Ned Ryun’s dad was given a big medal by Donald Trump. Ned likes Trump.
Outlaw voting machinery.
Hand counted ballots with supervision and back up cameras.
Everyone votes on the same day.
Keep the media away from all processes, but reporting the results.
No democracy.
Only a representative republic, with our political class doing the will of, We, The People.
Perhaps look at preventing voting by anyone employed by government, local, state, federal?
This post is intended to update Dutchman on potential election fraud changes. It appears in the mail I received today from my small town in North Carolina that the State on NC has mandated that ALL mail addresses be changed to a new system for Public health and safety improvements using the 911 system.
Everyone in NC is getting a new address effective July 17th (Notified today) that is based on map coordinates and based on distances from key road intersections to help Safety people to find your property The notice told us to come to the city for our new numbers and to notify all our business dealing of the new address.
What are the odds that if you do not update your voting registration to your new address numbers that in 2024 elections your ballot will be spit out into post office files as undelivered? It seems that every property will have a new number even if it is vacant land.
How many other states are doing this?
Immediate printout of voter registration data for all precincts in NC needs to be done ASAP. This data will tell us if registered voters changed their info by 2024 or not. Ever voter that does not change will get a ballot undelivered by the post office to posibility be used for nefarious purposes.
Thank you, ordinaryman.
A good start would be to find out the process for getting a copy of the voter rolls.
Some States/Counties charge 1000’s of $, some a small fee, some are free.
And, the REQUIREMENTS for who they will give/sell them to, which also varies.
If low or no cost, contact Jay Velentine, find out if there is already a group of people in your area with the app, and if not see if he can set you up with it.
Might want to contact him by email in any case, as this COULD be an effort to thwart people using his fractal algorythm app, to identify phantom voters.
Maybe scan the letter and email attach to him?
Try “omega4america” site, I had an email address for him, but can’t find it.
If that doesn’t work, try going thru the Gateway pundit, I have communicated with the Hofts just by emailing them, and they can get you to Jay.
Still seems like the RINOs are trying to screw Trump out in California.
Oh, no, KB.
The RINOS are NOT “trying to screw Trump out in California”,..frankly silly of you to comment so.
The RINOS are trying to screw Trump AND US, in ALL 50 States and the territories.
They just got “outed” in California, but rest assured State Party Executive committees are plotting even now, in EVERY State to do everything they can to insure he doesn’t win the nomination, and if despite that he DOES, that he loses to whoever the Dems prop up.
But their plans are collapsing like a unicorn fart in a hurricane.
That’s a big IF. We need to get secure voting. Maybe we should brain meld with a few of the Lefts tacticians
This is the MOST difficult concept for me to communicate to friends who are loyal Republicans. The RNC is ONLY and SOLELY focused on defeating Trump because he is a monkey wrench in their money generating scheme.
They DO NOT care whether they win. They DO NOT care about Americans. They care about money and how much they can get.
It is painful to accept but that is just the TRUTH.
I support Trump but also realize he has no chance of winning the general election. The GOPe/RNC will help the Democrats cheat. Georgia Governor Kemp will allow the Dems to cheat to steal the state no matter how many votes Trump gets in Georgia. Expect the cheating to be worse than it was in 2020 since they saw how easy it was and how easy it was to get away with it with no consequences.
Republicucks will never out cheat Satan’s people. They have been perfecting the art for decades. Chuck Robb did’nt really beat Ollie North in Va.
The problem is the Republicans must catch up. The Democrats is far ahead what fraudulent elections concern. If you can call it fraud anymore. There is a fine line that the Dems mastered to not land in jail. Trump will be the next President only if the Republicans play the same game. He has the votes but not the power over the totes.
The win/win scenario for the multinationals is a Trump defeat, irrelevant of the victor… So true (sigh)
“When will you let go of human intellect and understanding, and Look to Me alone?”
“Beloved, be quick to repent of your pride and relinquish the need to be in control.
Why make Me wait and delay My Divine Deliverance and wonder-working Power to perform Miracles in the midst of you, because you have chosen to rather explore and exhaust all other man-made ideas and quick fix solutions?”
Our elections have not been fair for forever. Sad but true.
Ryun a rino too. Come on treehouse. He’s saying trump lost Arizona. And it’s ALL voting machines anyhow. How do I know ? It’s the only thing you’re not allowed to mention. Fat ass Bannon is STILL not “a machine guy”. China and our government purposefully released Covid to get Trump out – and voting machines steal the world.
Has anyone been contacted by any campaign or organization related to the GOP to organize a ground game in your area? Time is ticking away. Maybe the GOP will form a committee and talk a mean game about harvesting.
The Demonic Democrats do whatever it takes to get in to power. They then change the rules so they keep power. They have people working full time to find any way to rig, steal and distract elections. It’s time to find our own experts in computers and psychological manipulation to out psychopath these communists. One thing I got from 2000 Mules was the voter roll racket the Dems run. The FBI hires ex criminals in their expertise to solve crimes. Sounds like politics.
If you watch the Tucker Carlson interviews of the tier 2 (?) candidates, Hutchinson, Christie, Scott, etc., you can see there’s really not much difference between the Republican Party, which they represent, and Biden. The differences are very minimal. In many instances they simply portray them as just more competent administrators of the destruction of the US.
So we can’t out ballot harvest the left. It all seems rather hopeless. Trump has to win by such large margins to cover the steal and in Michigan, Wisconsin etc. the margins are slim.
IOW, It’s already lost for Republicans with Trump there, because the Big Private Club would never put in the extra effort for him. They’re fine with Ronna leading a feckless campaign because Mitch can still shovel the cash out the back door even from a second place position.
Game Over Folks.
Sadly you are 110% correct. RNC and many Republicans would rather a Dem win than Trump no matter what that does to the country.
They are arrogant and think believe they are wise …. they are not!
They are destructive fools trying to hold on to whatever share of “the pie” they currently have by supporting the Uni-Party – and that pie & their influence are shrinking
My thinking is that 47 has been consulting with Manafort & company , who are masters of ballot and delegate operations since Resistance Day one. No Quarter.
I am in no way a political scientist, but I do not believe that Republicans can use the so called “ballot harvesting” methods used by Democrats. The mindset of the so called “conservative ” is entirely different from that of the Left. In short, conservatives work for a living; leftists appeal to those who vote for a living. Therefore, the left goes out, say, to nursing homes and that sort of thing and gathers (harvests) multiple mail-in and absentee votes from barely literate, or barely sentient people who are in effect selling their votes (e.g. student loan foregiveness). The conservatives vote for the common good which is heavy lifting. Of course, each party has a donor class which basically would not be in the same room as their own voter class.
Realistically speaking – “honest” ballot harvesting means checking the voter rolls and chasing down ballots from people who haven’t voted yet. That’s what the Democrats claim they did in 2020, innocently protesting they’re just better at getting out the vote by all legal means. It’s not their fault the GOP didn’t get with the times and adopt the newly authorized methods.
So no, it’s not illegally collecting reams of ballots mass-mailed to group homes, housing projects, and homeless shelters and then filling them out in a boiler room before depositing them in illegal, unmonitored drop boxes with no chain of custody of safeguards against fraud. How dare you suggest such a thing.
Take a step back and consider the panic among the Democrats and GOP establishment. They can to a lot to tip the scales in their favor but at the end of the day there remains a very real possibility that President Trump can win, despite the cheating and ballot box stuffing. He did it in 2020 by outperforming their projections; Hillary Clinton didn’t cheat enough to overcome him.
The Democrats came back in 2018 with a ballot harvesting pilot program in California that went national in 2020, giving themselves the opportunity to find the votes they needed AFTER election day. But even so – President Trump can still beat them if he is able to harvest enough votes of his own to deny the Democrats the exact number they need to put their candidate over the top.
AND – it will be President Trump’s campaign machine in the field. He won’t be reliant on the GOP alone to chase the ballots.