Let us be clear and non-pretending. The RNC, a private corporation run by U.S. multinational corporations, billionaires and donors who control it, is a private club – who construct the rules of affiliation according to the interests and demands of the benefactors.
The RNC club, the right side of the UniParty corporate structure, has zero consideration or interest in the opinion of voters forced to register in their affiliation.
The people who fund the RNC have established the rules for participation in the club debate. The first club debate is scheduled for August 23, 2023, on Fox News with the approved process through the prism of Rupert Murdoch and Paul Ryan. Those club rules include:
♦ A qualifying candidate must poll support at least 1% in three national polls, OR 1% in two national polls and 1% in one early state poll from two separate “carve out” states (Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, South Carolina) as conducted by polling recognized and approved by the RNC club.
This rule will elevate all the purposeful idiot club members the voters do not like onto the stage. After all, what good is a plan to split the vote if the club cannot give the optics needed for the operation. In essence, and in fact, in order for Chris Christie and Nikki Haley to attack Trump on behalf of DeSantis, they must be on the stage.
♦ Each candidate must meet this polling requirement no later than 48 hours prior to the first scheduled debate and must originate from polling conducted on or after July 1, 2023.
♦ The Candidate must have a minimum of 40,000 unique donors to candidate’s principal presidential campaign committee (or exploratory committee), with at least 200 unique donors per state or territory in 20+ states and/or territories. Evidence of this donor support must be presented to RNC club no later than 48 hours prior to the first scheduled debate.
The RNC club will then use this donor data to request more money for their club operations.
♦ Each candidate must have signed a pledge agreeing to support the eventual club nominee, in order to be considered an “approved republican.”
If the candidate does not support the club rules, the candidate is not approved.
Do you guys see how ridiculously screwed up our system of American party politics is?
If I were advising Donald Trump, or any candidate, I would tell them to put out an official statement that says:
“My loyalty is to the American people, not a private club or politically affiliated corporation. I will not be signing a loyalty pledge to anyone except the American people through my oath of office. Additionally, my view of our nation does not include any division, subset or categorization of personage based on political affiliation.”
The first rule in the maintenance of a constitutional republic, with the end goal to eliminate corporatism in US politics, should be to outlaw the formation of any political party.
Get rid of political parties, and Bernie Sanders would have been the DNC club candidate in 2016. Get rid of political parties, and Newt Gingrich would have been the RNC club candidate in 2012. Get rid of political parties, and voters would see bold contrasts instead of UniParty pastels.
Counter argument – Oh, but if you get rid of political parties then billionaires will just select their guy for office. My point – WTF do you think we have now?
Of course, Politico gets it exactly wrong – on purpose.
(Via Politico) – The Republican National Committee says it will consider adding a second night to the first GOP presidential primary debate this August in Milwaukee, according to new qualifying standards announced Friday.
The first debate will be Aug. 23 on Fox News Channel, with a possible second date of Aug. 24 if enough candidates meet polling and fundraising criteria — and also commit to supporting the eventual Republican nominee and pledge that they will not participate in any outside debates.
Candidates will have to garner donations from at least 40,000 national contributors and poll consistently above 1 percent in three national polls or two national polls and a state poll, according to the RNC’s announcement. Candidates must secure donations “with at least 200 unique donors per state or territory in 20+ states and/or territories.”
The candidates will have until Aug. 21 — 48 hours before the debate — to meet the criteria. Polls conducted prior to July 1 won’t count toward qualification.
The new standards appear designed to prevent the free-for-all, circus-like debates that occurred in the 2016 Republican primaries. Though it’s too soon to know which candidates will clear the thresholds, the criteria are likely to be difficult for at least some hopefuls to clear.
A smaller stage could benefit Ron DeSantis, who wants a one-on-one matchup with former President Donald Trump. The former president is welcoming a large field to splinter the opposition to him. (read more)
Do you think President Trump will even bother attending this mess?
I hope not.
Will they pull some last minute dirty stunt something like no debate no name on ballot? I wouldn’t put it pass these devils to steal the election this way before polling day.
No, hold a rally instead, the same day as the “debate.”
…hold a rally the day AFTER the debate……
….at which their vacuous comments/editorials/assumptions/claims (which have been edited only for space available, not for meaning), project them on the BIG screen one at a time, and then ANSWER THEM—-in other words, he holds a rally where the subjects are chosen by the goofy “debaters” (none of whom could actually debate their way out of a wet paper sack)
The uniparty goal is to have Trump in an orange jumpsuit campaigning from prison before the debates.
It could be quite entertaining to watch a debate where the participants are all debating someone who is not there. Trump would only agree to these terms if McCarthy did the negotiations and then he would have to wear a muzzle as well.
President Trump needs to say that he will not take a pledge of loyalty to whomever wins the nomination. That immediately disqualifies him for the RNC debates which he should not do anyway. He should let them all stand on the stage with their collective 10% popularity and argue with each other.
He does not need to debate these idiots. He does not need to give the RNC and these RINOs any legitimacy.
I like this idea.
He’s 24/7 under attack. Debate what , none of them have provided a plan to anything of substance
End of story
He should just not attend but answer each question given to the RINOs in the “debate”. He could live stream his answers, put them in writing on social media, and also do separate interviews on podcasts and such with the debate questions and PDJT answers.
He might as well make MSM irrelevant.
they need him in the debates, to get ratings/viewership.
I agree!
I agree. Trump should skip the debates. Without him, the debates will be about the candidates’ policies, their vision for the future, and leadership. With him, it would be all about childish name-calling, the unfair 2020 election, and whining that no one is loyal to him.
You lost dude? Or are you getting paid to be here?
Oh…poor little fella thinks the stagecraft is real.
What a maroon.
How grand they consider themselves to be. The focus of the adoring public.
And all I can say is that when the centre of the universe is discovered, a lot of people are going to be very disappointed to discover they are not in it.
Half of MAGA does not watch Fox or in my case cannot watch as I stream and would have to pay for a platform that would stream it since I purposefully quit watching it. I already know who the other idiots are and they are terrible politicians.
How very North Korean of them.
OUCH!!! But it’s true!!!
Golly!
If I get just 1% more in 3 polls than I am getting now, I can be in the debate!
And besides which, POLLS ARE RIGGED.
“If the candidate does not support the club rules, the candidate is not approved.”
Pledge allegiance to The Word and The One or you’ll go to Hell?
How many religions are there, anyway?
You must pledge to support and defend the U.S. Constitution to be a U.S. Senator or Representative. You must pledge to support your state’s laws to be a state trooper. You must pledge to support your college to be a college football player. And you must pledge to support the Republican Party to run under the banner of the Republican Party. It’s not complicated.
Exactly.
Nowhere in the US Constitution, State and Federal laws and RNC bylaws does it state we must support a TREASONOUS COUP.
Communism is a non-starter. Fact.
Bingo ! They are comparing apples to arseholes, no similarities unless your as stupid as they are…
You tell em Judith !!!
Let me help you off of your soapbox by fixing your misstatement. Here is the accurate statement:
And you must pledge to support the Republican Party nominee & hand over your donor list to be afforded the privilege of standing on their debate stage so that the party & its quislings can shiv you at will & harangue your donors to give us 💰.
Pledge? Like Mark Milley’s. Bidet’s. Which pledge did Bidet or Obama live up to?
Ho Ho !!! Good one Hoo vol ! The list of traitors and rhinos who’s pledge didn’t mean squat would take us MONTHS tp complete and you would have to be an idiot to swear alliance to that group !
Pledge to support what, exactly? What does the RNC stand for? As far as I can tell, no other Rs stand for anything.
Don’t care about any of these theatrics. Whether Trump is at any of these debates…I could care less. I already know what he produces as President, so there is nothing that could change my mind. 🇺🇸💥TRUMP 2024 💥🇺🇸
I should clarify…I would miss the comedy gold Trump would bring to the debates… 🤣😂🤣
Nobody would watch, especially now that they know Trump, if Trump does not show up!
Burn it all down. The only person I will ever vote for with an R behind his name is Trump. They’re getting nothing from me ever again after that.
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THIS !
THIS ! THIS !
A THOUSAND TIMES THIS !!!
That’s a perfect definition of the OnlyTrump variant of Trump Derangement Syndrome. Sad!
When the only person that puts the American people first is Trump…I proudly stand as OnlyTrump. Everyone else is selling this country out from under us…F*ck That!
Name a better candidate to get us out of this clusterfoulup. And when you can, we’ll give you an ounce of attention.
I am a PROUD OnlyTrump variant of TDS. All the other candidates are bought and paid for globalist neocons which is the only thing that is sad.
Time for President Trump to send in his Peter Clemenza (Godfather) crew over and brace up Botox chunky girl Ronna against the wall and explain to her WHO RUNS THE SHOW!!! 🤨
Eh, he doesn’t need to do that. He can just walk away. It’s really that simple. I wish he would.
🤣 🤣 Yes, let us go to the mattresses.
Trump endorsed Rona McDaniel for RNC Chair, just like he endorsed Mitch McConnell, Kevin McCarthy (twice!), Paul Ryan, and Mitt Romney. He picks “only the best people.”
I’m just guessing here that in order to get a modicum of support from the GOPe you need to stroke their egos. It might be something he learned and described in his ART OF THE DEAL. I don’t know. I didn’t read it. But something about keep your enemies close. Eh ?
Michael Corleone had his two of his Capos who were as close as brothers executed as well!!! Just remember that part of the movie as well Fredo!!!
Maybe applying a bit of reason, a chore for you I see, would help you middle through this endorsing silliness.
He was trying to work with the Republican Party! But they stabbed him in the back at every turn. Have you heard his comments about Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, and Mitt Romney? He strongly calls them out for the traitors they are! Just a matter of time before Kevin McCarthy and Rona McDaniel get the same treatment after they stab him in the back.
Corruption will not be fixed with the ballot box.
Elected officials / military members (and candidates for office?) only need to swear allegiance to, and be held accountable to the U.S. Constitution.
The RNC has jumped the shark…
“Each candidate must have signed a pledge agreeing to support the eventual club nominee, in order to be considered an “approved republican.”
Leaves me speechless..……………………………..except for NO, NO, NO
“Polls conducted prior to July 1 won’t count toward qualification.”
Nothing like telegraphing when all the phoney-baloney lawfare will raise its ugly head. They will try to push Trump’s numbers down by June.
And still his numbers will NEVER go in the single digits! 🤣
Come on lawfare, you POS, let’s get it started
Trump shooting off his mouth will push his numbers down by June.
Do you get paid per post?
Please go back to your basement little boy/girl/it.
Look no further than yourself .. how many shooting off yours have you fired off within less than a minute? Are the chump change wages you getting not piling up fast enough for you?
Maybe near history is totally lost on you. Maybe math is hard. Maybe you’re hoping beyond hope.
My bet, you want to be governed and have not one independent bone in your body. Enjoy that.
We have amongst us a curmudgeon or a termagant.
Random act of asshattery…….🥸
Zzzzz….
They are giving themselves a month to see if they can find some lie that will stick.
They THINK this
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/leak-georgia-investigation-trump-broadens-dc-other-cities/
will make everything better for them.
They don’t realize this is more likely to bring a second burning of Atlanta than it s likely to de-rail the Trump train. This will bring an entire nation to boycott Atlanta and the whole state of Georgia if they can’t get Atlanta back under constitutional control.
They plan on announcing pressing RICO charges in Atlanta between June 11 and the end of the month. The DeTardos don’t realize it’s the Big Backfire, possibly even starting CW III.
They will make Trump bigger than Jefferson, Washington, or any other American hero if the remain deaf to the few intelligent voices left to them.
(I’ve never heard anyone use “DeTardos before. Call it my contribution or my big chime in. Everyone is encouraged to use it either way!)
Bingo!
Good we have the RNC finally ripping off the mask with that pledge. Many normies should finally see the light
And Sundance. Get your quoted announcement to the Maga King anyway you can
How do you square 1st Amendment freedom of association with the outlawing of political parties?
Easy under RICO statute since they are operating an interstate criminal enterprise that commits treason daily.
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I cannot wait for President Trump’s response.
Stick yer pledge Ronna.
Flop sweat is not going to go with your duck lips.
I already know who I will be voting for: President Trump. The RNC and the media can play all the games they want, but it will not change my vote.
As the economy continues to go to sh*t, housing a mess, WWIII right around the corner, I am not going to listen to what any hack says. I can see with my own eyes what’s really going on. The country needs Trump. The rest can go scratch.
Assuming it is their intent to exclude POTUS Trump from the debate schedule, it would seem that those who do “qualify” would be inherently unattractive to the public in general, obviously incompetent, and unqualified to be POTUS. Of course, that might make for an entertaining debate.
Kind of like a demolition derby: “This car can’t run no more anyway, so I’m just gonna keep ramming into them other guys, scattering parts all over the place, and I will feel victorious when I make their car not run.”
If they were five-year-olds in the 1970s, they’d all be put in time-out. But they are middle-aged five-year-olds in 2023-4 and the people who own them need them out there crashing into one another, so they can’t be put in time-out.
It’s ridiculous on its face.
However, I would get a chuckle if Trump wins and forces the others to openly verbally say “I support Trump” and puts it in an ad. 😁
Seriously, how do you force someone to support the nominee….and how would you enforce it?
“What do you mean badmouthing Trump to our pals in CNN isn’t supporting him? We in the Republican establishment support Trump and his voters the same way we always have — with knives in the back.”
One would think that Sundance has the attention of Trump’s campaign. One would think that said ear of Trump’s campaign would be aligned with Sundance’s take on not only this issue, but others as well (I will not “Go Deep” as Sundance is prone to do). If this is not the case, we truly need to reevaluate the situation. How can we see the total corruption of the Govt. and do nothing but “Hope” the GOP does something about it? I don’t know guys, but the feeling from my perspective is we are in a position where if we do not act now, it is over. The great experiment died like Reagan said, one generation removed.
Trump only said he will not debate if Brett Baier hosts it. Of course FOX will be sure to have botoxed Baier to host.
Wolverines need apply!!
Well, since they are ALL going to oppose Trump til the bitter end, then we know they are all liars when they take the “pledge,” right?
This “pledge” crap seems unconstitutional to me. All Republicans and conservatives running for election should call this BS out. The RNC is just another wing of the same bird that is running, er, I mean ruining this Country of OURS. They are in the pockets of the Globalists.
Further, Kevin McCarthy is in the pocket of lobbyist Luntz, with whom he has shared a loft in the DC area. And McCarthy has managed to lure MTG into his “pay to play” scheme, under the direction of Lutz, who McCarthy is beholden to.
Real Conservatives/ MAGA/ America First members need to oust Kevin McCarthy from his Speakership position.
Hellary not only lied when she took the pledge, she instead created a fake dossier and conspired to conduct a TREASONOUS COUP.
FUNNY: ALL OF THESE CORPORATE OLIGARCHS WHO ARE NOW PROMOTING A “LOYALTY PLEDGE” WERE DISLOYAL TO PRESIDENT TRUMP, BETRAYING HIM AND KNEECAPPING THE PEOPLE’S MAGA AGENDA AT EVERY TURN.
Not funny. Evil.
PDJT should sponsor his own unconditional debate and invite all the RINOs. They won’t dare show up, but it would be fun.
The former president is welcoming a large field to splinter the opposition to him.
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Oh, please! How many of those RINOs are going to support Trump if he’s the nominee???
It takes a special kind of bad to be as bad as Nikki Haley.
How did this doofus decide America needed her?
Just being a female or an Asian should garner more support than Nikki Hopeless can manage.
Kasich said in 2016 he was called by god, or words to that effect.
The god of Ohio?, because no one else cared.
The imperative to speak in banalities and double talk seems to seize so many of these people.
Hillary announced, in every speech in 2016, that she wanted a system fair to every one. As opposed to what, Hillary?
Harold Stassen might of had the right idea: just keep signing up, and like the lottery, your number might get called.
Trump will say whatever the heck he pleases, but no doubt the sentiment and his heart will be with the American people.
nobody can hold a candle to OUR PRESIDENT! Bring it on! I totally believe God is going to place President Donald Trump in office for his 2nd term.
https://rumble.com/v2rieds-president-trump-town-hall-iowa-06-01-2023.html
Trump needs to declare independence… I will send money if he declares himself as independent … sorry I can’t feed the monster … they monster will let us all starve if it gains control
Get ready to hear words like, “oversight”, “investigation”, “special counsel”, and on and on. The RNC and the Rinos lie lie lie, all to hang on to power and get elected.
And like that, here come the fake polls!
Exactly Sundance.
The Left and the Right need to unite against the Criminals.
There is no fairness in our election systems.
It doesn’t matter if you hate Trump, the system is rigged for whatever the Big Clubs want.
Honestly, Trump doesn’t need the Big Club. I’m just wondering when he decides to step away from the RNC.
Question:
Is President Donald J. Trump
Automatically on the
ballot in every state ?
Does he have to “register”
to be on the ballot in every
state ?
What has to be done to
“Write In”
Donald J. Trump on a
ballot if his name is not
there on the ballot ?
I am hoping someone has the correct answer to the above questions.
At this point does anyone, with any sense, want to vote for an “approved republican”?
NO!!! And that is the problem. The RNC calls itself a “club.” They have totally disconnected themselves from the vision and point of view of the Founders, that they are now an abomination of the USA Constitution as written.
“they are now an abomination”
You get my vote for comment of the day. Shows ability to to turn an ear-catching phrase while showing a deep understanding of the Biblical and political landscape.
Or you got real lucky ! LoL ! I’m going with “you’re a genius !
Who counts the Polls?
If there were no “political parties,” what would the DNC and RNC be, since you seem to imply that they would still exist? The penultimate paragraph lost me somehow
give them no money, give them no loyalty give them nothing.
do they really deserve it, the Ronna McRomney crew?
is the lesser of two evils good, or is it still evil?
what would the wisest of the wise do?
defund them all.
Others have written …. give your money directly to your chosen candidate. Do NOT give money to the RNC or any other large group. The vermin are everywhere.
It’s pretty clear the Big Club doesn’t “need” our donations. Our politicians are very well funded by multinational, communist corporations who exploit the Big Club for their own purposes.
What the Big Club itself needs most is to maintain illusions.. especially the illusion of freedom. To keep up appearances, the Big Club conducts sham elections, propaganda campaigns and censorship ..and yes.. they even solicit our pocket change to make us feel relevant.
I thought Loyalty Pledges were a major voo doo or something… but Trump (rolling eyes)
Didn’t Trump say he would skip the RNC debates if they forced a “Loyalty pledge” ?
at any rate…
Trump should absolutely skip the debates and do his thing – Trump Rally’s and speak directly to the people with out the dog and pony show.
He did say it,
The Republican former president has privately said that a debate in August would be too early and he would not participate, according to two people familiar with his concerns who insisted on anonymity to detail private discussions. He also has stepped up his public complaints this week, suggesting that his poll numbers are so high he has no reason to compete with the rest of the field.
“I see that everybody is talking about the Republican Debates, but nobody got my approval, or the approval of the Trump Campaign, before announcing them,” Trump said in a Tuesday post on his social media network.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-2024-republican-presidential-debates-e674cab77b1b37e29dcb834563c9b981
MAN I like that wording !
Trump put it so that they KNOW he is implying that they are inferior and he is the one really in charge !!!
Trump should have a major rally on the same night as the debates! The legacy media won’t support it, but they don’t support any of his rallies anyway! The alternative media will! He could stream the same questions asked and give his answers there.
The “debates” boil down to an interview for the job. Why would President Trump stoop to an interview for a job he has done already ? I hope he doesn’t.
That is a great point!! And he has already outlined many of his policies and goals so why bother debating in a fixed event?
Thank you Sundance.
To the RNC: Screw you and screw your club.
Trump Won.
MAGA!
♦ Each candidate must have signed a pledge agreeing to support the eventual club nominee, in order to be considered an “approved republican.”
How will they enforce this pledge? 10 months after the debate it is a little late to do anything if a person asks “But what if I don’t?”
“This just in: Additional requirements are that your first-born child must be surrendered immediately to the RNC, you may not own any sports apparel whatsoever, you must not mention once on stage (or in any interview immediately thereafter) that you wish to Make America Great Again or that you love the American people, the initials C-C-P may not be uttered, you must commit to at least once mentioning that there’s no need for Joe Biden to take a cognitive test, under no circumstances may you infer the 2020, 2022 elections were fraudulent (2016 election fraud speak is acceptable), and, lastly, references to all Fox personnel must begin with ‘Your holiness’.”
Ha !
So that is exactly what ” they ” DEMAND.
F* THEM
As with Trumps hannity town hall, No one should give any ratings to fox news just because Trump is on… catch the replay on a private Youtube channel instead.
we must send a strong message to fox news.
Fantastic comment. FOX is full of ….it.
I look forward to the ratings for Fox to be in the toilet the night of the “debates” if DJT declines the invitation.
In the era of ballots uber alles, what is the value of debates?
A more effective strategy for Trump is to continue taking his message directly to the people, to ignore the artificial constructs built around the media-driven primary, and to work hard behind the scenes building networks of delegates and “ballot assistance” operations.
We vote to leave his strategy up to President Trump.
It is his campaign ……. he makes the calls…….
He is a master negotiator and legendary rope-a-doper.
“Let’s go Brandon and the democrats and GOPe, especially the DeXX gang!”
Apparently the RNC is not confident that the current legal noise being generated against Trump is going anywhere, so they’re looking for another angle to exclude him.
President Trump should run against the RNC. Say he will name Mike Lindell as head of the RNC when elected.
I hope Trump knows best not to debate. He does not need to debate.
There is a loyalty asterisk for Mike Pence because he cant be loyal to anyone, anything or any country.
That goes double for DeXX…….. the documented double-crosser.
Dear PT45,
Please tell these troglodytes that you’re going to win this thing hands down (again!); and such being the case, you’ll be happy to offer your pledge in support of President Donald J Trump 🙂