This is one of those reality moments when a few more people might scratch their puzzlers and, if we are lucky, possibly awaken themselves to the reality of World War Reddit.
It was not long ago when MSM headlines were all about how Russia was to blame for starving people around the world as a result of Ukraine farming shortages caused by war. As the narrative was told, specifically as it reflected in massive food inflation, the EU and corporate media said the global grain market was missing the farm output from Ukraine, ergo grain prices skyrocketed; ie. Russia bad.
Well, how does this story reconcile with that narrative? According to Reuters reporting, the EU is telling all member states they must take massive shipments of grain and excessive grain commodities into their country even if it collapses the market price. Poland and Hungary said they don’t want the excessive harvest outputs; the EU is telling them they must take them.
Funny how that global famine narrative now disappears under the weight of excessive commodity outputs from Ukraine. Farming output going well in Ukraine. Weirdest war outcome ever. lolol
WARSAW, April 16 (Reuters) – Unilateral action on trade by European Union member states is unacceptable, the bloc’s executive said on Sunday, after Poland and Hungary announced bans on grain and other food imports from Ukraine to protect their local agricultural sectors.
After Russia’s invasion blocked some Black Sea ports, large quantities of Ukrainian grain, which is cheaper than that produced in the European Union, ended up staying in Central European states due to logistical bottlenecks, hitting prices and sales for local farmers.
[…] “We are aware of Poland and Hungary’s announcements regarding the ban on imports of grain and other agricultural products from Ukraine,” a spokesperson for the European Commission said in an emailed statement.
“In this context, it is important to underline that trade policy is of EU exclusive competence and, therefore, unilateral actions are not acceptable.” “In such challenging times, it is crucial to coordinate and align all decisions within the EU,” the statement added.
[…] Solsky said at the weekend that 500,000 to 700,000 tonnes of various [Ukraine] agricultural products cross the Polish border every month, including grain, vegetable oil, sugar, eggs, meat and other products. (read more)
Old narrative “Russia is starving the world”… New narrative “Excessive Ukraine harvests must be accepted”… Any questions?
I hear refrains of Bono:
“Where the wheats have no name”
🙂
I guess the government officials are so busy botching up the war they can’t botch up the farm supply.
This may all be misinformation meant to cause famine or to further the myth that the war in the Ukraine is going well.
It’s April 17th for heavens sake. I’m not a farmer, but this is planting season. How does anyone know what the harvest will be?
I was thinking more along the lines of sting!!
“you’ll remember me when the world Econ forum moves Upon the fields of barley…
You’ll forget Soros in his jealous eyes …
As we’re forced with fields of gold”
Russia controls Ukraine. Circumventing Russian sanctions bad. Take grain or else. Oh what a world…
I agree. I just wish Russia would make a big hit and claim victory. The Ukes and their Azov Battalion need to be taken out. Why is Russia prolonging this?
Russia doesn’t want the Ukraine to be left ungovernable or without infrastructure. It just wants the east and for NATO to be off its border.
”Why is Russia prolonging this?”
Perhaps the Russians believe the total destruction of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is most effectively achieved with the assistance of the President of Ukraine.
”Why is Russia prolonging this?”
Perhaps the Russians believe the total destruction of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is most effectively achieved with the assistance of the President of United States…..
Also, Russia was impacted by the Covid crap too. What better way to get their economy up and running again than to fire up their military industrial machine and go to war next door where they have the ability to set the pace and tone of the battle?
War is going well. Natostan continues to throw cannon fodder against the Russian wall of Bahkmut.
And the Kinzhal barrage took out ~200 or so NATO / Empire leading strategists in the 200 ft below ground hidey hole near Lvov.
ALL DEAD…NO NEWS ABOUT IT……
Russians are fighting a war of attrition. They are honing their military strengths and fixing shortfalls. I will not tell you this was planned, though it probably was as the RF has known it was coming and unavoidable. The US has depleted much ammo stock over this too.
Every war plan must have a political strategy. Putin certainly understands the different factions in the West. Every time the US/NATO write checks (especially the US) the citizens grow more impatient. He/Russia may be hoping for an actual insurrection or mass civil unrest. If the price of necessities continue to climb he may get it.
Another VERY important point and often overlooked is the plan to get countries on board with de-dollarization (which was NO doubt planned) needed a calm rational nation to inspire others to go along. This is how you know the Russians are winning this conflict by measuring the willingness of other nations to participate. This war effort has really exposed the face behind the mask of the GAE. I believe/hope even some of the European nations are seeing it. That’s why the importance Macron’s trip and dialogue with China cannot be overstated. In fact, Macron better watch his ass for a while.
You have to think the Neocons/Globalists plans for the future have revolved around maintaining control of the planet. They have no plans to capitulate for now. They know they were so damn close to pulling it off and can still taste it. What good is a CBDC if the American currency doesn’t remain king? What fun would that be if they could no longer leverage their control over money to get others to do as they command?
Time is on the side of Russia in this I firmly believe. I hope that other vassal states of the GAE follow France. The less cheerleaders the GAE has the better. If they lose even more support (EU, NATO, Australia, Canada) maybe, just maybe they will have no choice but to tone it down. Then the US will be totally isolated and left to die on the hill. Its unfortunate but it may be the only way to get things back on the path to reality again. It will be people like us that must pick up the pieces.
The IMF just announced a new “Universal Monetary Unit”, a digital currency, supposedly with multiple countries and central banks behind it:
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/the-imf-has-just-unveiled-a-new-global-currency-known-as-the-universal-monetary-unit-that-is-supposed-to-revolutionize-the-world-economy/
Unfortunately, the GAO is kabuki.
The real culprits are the globalists and money changers ( bankers ) and they’re mostly based in London.
Why do you think the UK is so involved in the Ukraine? To them this is an existentialist war… and their demise is near… BRICS. Let’s call them the UKCABAL.
Being in the US, if the UKCABAL were to disappear, it would remove the money support behind the US Democrats, Uni Party and Deep State. Then we could go back to being a truly independent nation.
Because the ground didn’t freeze sufficiently because of a mild winter and it’s still mud season.
When it dries, then it’s on.
If you believe our military has the ability to affect the weather, it makes sense for Europe to have a mild winter this year. It also explains California’s record breaking snow. They disrupted the global weather pattern.
When it comes to the media reports on the war…
This story goes against the grain 🙂
Hard to tell the wheat from the chaff….but there’s not a grain of truth in any of it.
Thank you Sundance for getting to the root of the problems.
Perhaps we ought all stalk up for next winter.
you guys, I LOLd, as the kids say
+1 Wordman and Mycroft
EU countries need a threshing
good one, Patience
The people have suffered enough. It’s the EU governing goons that need to be taken out behind the barn.
He’s here all week folks!
Don’t forget to tip your cocktail waitress….
😆
Rissia does not control Ukraine.
RUSSIA DOES CONTROL 404 COUNTRY…..
The whole of Europe is collapsing.
Socialism working wonders once again.
Paris protestors took to the streets today in what is being described as “mostly peaceful” demonstrations against the raising of the pension retirement age for French citizens…..
The welfare State won over the poor at a time of small government.
Small taxes and small bureaucracy. A century ago.
Now the State feels the need to shrink the benefits of the welfare State. The taxes will continue, of course, and the bureaucracy can only grow.
But you ingrates need to stop asking for free stuff.
The rich now need this money.
If those oligarchs need all that money so much more then the rest, I hope they like the taste of molten gold or silver.
Little by little the truth is coming out. The war on Ukraine is about as real as the war on covid.
If we’re lucky, Tucker Carlson might even mention it sometime soon.
No, there is definitely a war going on. It’s just that Russia rarely targets anything west of the Dnipro River.
haha
How long after the outbreak of the war on covid until you realized it was fake? You know, up until just a few months ago, there were still people here insisting the pandemic was real. Im sure there still are but you know…..shhhh
It’s not hard to find videos of the actual fighting. I see dozens of new ones every day.
Well of course there’s videos. Would you still believe it if there weren’t? Google wants you to see them.
I really am curious how long until some people realized the pandemic was fake. I want to continue to learn from history. Did you see the videos of the dead bodies overflowing out of hospitals during the pandemic? How bout the dancing nurses?
What isn’t fake anymore?
My wife’s breasts!
Well that’s good Bob!
The videos are posted on Twitter and Telegram. I never see them on YouTube.
nvm, enjoy the videos.
And? You only trust YouTube, run by Google?
No. I was responding to the claim that Google wants people to see those videos. They don’t.
You’re not getting the difference between “fake” and “literal”.
There is death and destruction, but it’s not about the reasons we’re lied to about.
Just like Covid was a fake pandemic but a real disaster.
I like your red herrings. Very pretty.
This entire thing could be about stabilizing borders.
You are mistaken.
about the war on ukraine or the war on covid?
300,000+ dead and wounded in Eastern Ukraine so far says it is not a fake war.
How do you know this? or rather, who told you that?
Learn what fake means when used in the context of truth versus storytelling.
Left vs Right.
“Fake” news happens on TV, told by anchors, written by journalists, about events.
All that is REALLY happening. So it’s really “news,” right?
That doesn’t mean it’s accurate, true, and unadulterated.
It’s propaganda meant for us to consume and come to the conclusion THEY want us to.
“Fake” doesn’t deny that the events happened.
It’s about seeing through the bullsh*t.
We have adults who never learned Critical Thinking.
This is a good forum to learn it from and it’s time to open your mind’s eyes.
I believe there was a real Wuhan Flu going around… but it was appropriated ( if not originally spread ) to put into place totalitarian measures.
They withheld appropriate cures and went full Gestapo/Nazi on a global scale throughout the First World nations.
I know several people who did get sick, and I have second hand knowledge of people who did die… but, for a strange reason, I don’t know of anyone, in my Conservative county, that actually did die.
Hmmm…
I also know from a very good, reliable source, that the numbers were being cooked to make it sound much worse.
For what it’s worth, we did “get” it last year… but by then it had, as such tend to do, changed to a much more benign bug… just a couple of days of a “mild flu”.
If put to a vote in Hungary for Hexit, Hungaexit, Middlefingerexit, it would probably be a loud mandate by the Hungarians to the EU…pull the cord.
Challenge the narrative!
Challenge and lampoon the terminology!
“exclusive competence”
“We are aware of Poland and Hungary’s announcements regarding the ban on imports of grain and other agricultural products from Ukraine,” a spokesperson for the European Commission said in an emailed statement.
“In this context, it is important to underline that trade policy is of EU exclusive competence and, therefore, unilateral actions are not acceptable.” “In such challenging times, it is crucial to coordinate and align all decisions within the EU,” the statement added.
I suggest a strongly worded telegram needs to be sent to Ms. Lagarde by the leaders of Poland and Hungary – this is all that needs to be said:
NUTS!
We need to say that here too
Or “I’ll be standing on the dock, waving goodbye!”
perhaps mickeys one fingered salute, or turn around and MOON?
If from NYC, grab crotch and say “I got yer challenging times, right here!”
Political ‘Money Laundering’ comes in all shapes and sizes……Ukraine is just the latest example….
With a side order of Great Reset
I’m wondering how much of our Ukrainian money that was allegedly embezzled by Zelenskyy and his generals was used used to purchase Hunter Biden’s art work reportedly fetching 85K or more in private bidding.
… ( sarcasm) maybe the c-juan digital C urrenCy will be able to smartly track the money laundering
( but not be traceable – by the peasants )?
I do not know
( have double standards ever been enacted by
just-us? )
This grain issue has been about busting the EU middle class, not feeding Africa or anyone else. Why can’t boomers get that thru their narrative skulls.
Emotions over ride the facts.
I haven’t seen one person here claim it was about feeding Africa.
And there are problems in Sudan….
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-65293538
Mere weeks after Victoria Nuland visited.
What a coincidence
Ukraine, a supposedly war-ravaged Country has grown more grain than they need, so have to export it ( and mandated for the EU countries to buy it). What’s wrong with this picture?
When will this psy-op end?
There was a time, when armies would burn the crops, to deprive the enemy, and force surrender.
How is it that the horrible, terrible INVADING Russians, didn’t burn the crops, in order to force Ukraine to surrender?
So, Russia totally missed out on this basic action or warfare thats been around since Ghengis Khan, ..and blew up its own pipeline to boot!
Boy is that Putin Duuuumm,…er clever and sneaky?
Another narrative, a biggie, a YUGIE, falls apart as we watch.
Conspiracy theorists 75
Debunkers -0-
And I got through tithing’s at church, ( I’m treasurer)another $1000 for Ukraine. This 90 yr old, 7x vaxxed, health a mess beyond repair. She has sent 7k to Ukraine in total.
I will probably go to hell for not specifying Ukraine on my submission to the church, but I just can’t. Just general disaster fund. My church has sent $20k to Ukraine. I’ve not specified that on my remittances. We are a poor rural church. No more than 50 in attendance each Sunday. Most live in doublewides. People are brainwashed. I wish this $ would go to East Palestine or within the US.
People are so brainwashed from poor kids in Africa type thing. OUR people are suffering.
I’ve said, but it falls on deaf ears.
Apparently a lot, like millions, have left Ukraine. Except for the ones shoved to the front or Shanghai’d from the streets, schools, old folks homes……
… and the Kiev monastery, so I’ve read.
Russia is out to de-Nazify, not de-populate
What does this sound like something the Mafia would do.
And has anyone noticed how natural it is to associate Mafia like acts with Brandon!
“The Party said that Oceania had never been in alliance with Eurasia.”
“He, Winston Smith, knew that Oceania had been in alliance with Eurasia as short a time as four years ago.”
Nineteen Eighty-Four By George Orwell
But,…but thats NATIONALISM, and almost worse (from their point if view) Populism, to restrict imports to protect national industry.
EU IS established as a united TRADE union, and yes the countries that joined agreed to surrender their sovereignity to brussels.
This IS a crack, a SIGNIFICANT crack, in the EU.
Between musical concerts and political visits, Ukraine is finding time to do some farming during this “war”.
Z is a genius!
🫤
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Who was left to bring in the harvest in Ukraine after Zelensky nabbed all of the men to be soldiers?
Who planted all of the grains in the first place?
Are the women doing ALL of the non-military work in Ukraine?
My question is this, since I am not a farmer:
This is April. Its spring here in the northern hemisphere. Was this last year’s harvest? Or does the grain grow all year long?
Has it been sitting in silos getting moldy? In the fields, getting covered with the toxic residue of artillery?
RADIOACTIVE
The Jefferson of our times. He can do it all.
What is with joketato’s face?
A smile? 😜
Didn’t we also recently learn that Ukraine is getting oil from Russia thru Bulgaria?
https://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/investigation-ukraine-buys-huge-amounts-of-russian-fuels-from-bulgaria/
Meanwhile, the PTB are destroying domestic agriculture in various Nations with the war against carbon dioxide (plant food!).
Sounds more like the following (paraphrasing a notable meme).
All your grain markets are belong to us.
“In such challenging times, it is crucial to coordinate and align all decisions within the EU”.
It’s that narrative of conformity again.
Shutup and take the grain. You joined that stupid organization and now they control everything you do because you were greedy and wanted to hurt the U.S. economically. Now STFU and stuff it….literally.
All of THEM put together don’t hurt the USA like the LEFTIED UNIPARTY of DIMS and RINO DIABLOS, all put together, Heil Hitlering to Odrama Queen and Soros/Schultz/Gates/Faux Chi/Harari.
And what are WE doing about those US TRAITORS?
The LEAST we could do is start Praying and Petitioning the One True Lord God to bring them to JUSTICE in HIS OWN WAY, like He did the likes of Pharaoh, Belshazzar, Korah, Ahab and Jezebel, and many others –
like the Three Armies that came after King Jehoshaphat and the Judah, to rob them when they didn’t even have a physical, human army to defend themselves with. (2 Chronicles 20)
God Took Care of Them Himself!!!
2 Chronicles 7:13-15
13. If I shut up heaven so no rain falls, or if I command locusts to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among My people,
14. If My people, who are called by My name, shall humble themselves, pray, seek, crave, and require of necessity My face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven, forgive their sin, and heal their land.
15. Now My eyes will be open and My ears attentive to prayer offered in this place.
Amen!!!
He did the same Kinds of things for George Washington a lot during the Revolution. AND the War of 1812.
He did it for a lot of our guys during WWI and WWII, as well.
We Should Give It a Rousing TRY! We will be shocked if we do!
Globalism:
The concept of central control might be bearable if this central intelligence was benign, never mind benificent.
But the globalists are engaged in an endless mission to impose themselves upon those who doubt.
So we get wars to end war.
And now food shortages to end food shortage.
What a splendid world it would be if the do-gooders would just stop doing good.
But, but, but….we gots to eat zees bugs!
Germany wants Russia’s nuclear industry sanctionedHowever, such a move would face pushback from Hungary
Germany shut down its last three nuclear power stations on Saturday, defying calls to extend their operation amid soaring energy costs.
I wonder if the missing 8 million Ukrainian refugees has improved what Ukraine can export?
That, and we modified the weather to give a fantastic growing season. Overall, the crop production is down due to the war.
https://publications.jrc.ec.europa.eu/repository/handle/JRC133091
Remember at the very beginning of this Ukraine thing . . . when the television news showed “war footage” that included scenes from Star Wars?
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/russia-ukraine-war-israel-tv-channel-shows-star-wars-clip
I want to see Hungary and Poland tell Brussels “no we won’t buy it,, and what will you do about it?”.
Slovakia joins Poland and Hungary in halting Ukraine grain imports
EU and Kyiv condemn unilateral bans that aim to protect local farmers amid glut and price crash
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/17/slovakia-joins-poland-hungary-halting-ukraine-grain-imports
EXCERPT:
Hungary’s agriculture minister, István Nagy, said later on Saturday that Budapest’s ban on imports from Ukraine of grain and oilseeds, as well as other farm products including fruits, vegetables, dairy, beef, pork and eggs, would last until 30 June.
Nagy said Hungary and Poland – which are embroiled in long-running conflicts with Brussels over judicial independence, press freedom and LGBTQ+ rights, and have had EU funds withheld – were acting “in the absence of meaningful EU measures”.
The European Commission’s spokesperson for trade and agriculture said trade policy was an EU-exclusive competence and unilateral actions “are not acceptable. In such challenging times, it is crucial to coordinate and align all decisions within the EU.”
Oh yes, something smells.
Local anticipated new crop prices this year are down.
Maybe Archer Daniels Midland, Cargill, Bunge, etc are figuring on a little “buy low, sell high” .
(with a little political help, as always)
10% goes to the Big Guy!
Next thing you know, the US will be forced to buy gasoline from Mexico to make up for shortfalls in the US.
Oh wait…..never mind.
What was laced through the Ukrainian farm land?
What ever happened to all the Ukrainian Bio labs?
Where is that grain coming from? Who stands to make money?
It comes from Ukraine – one of the world’s largest grain suppliers. As to who profits from the sale, IDK whether it’s the Ukrainian government or globalist corporate titans who own the land and fund the farming ops.. Maybe both.
What is being used to fertilize it (other than that which is spewing from our politicians)?
The hilarious thing that Reuters has totally ignored is that about 70+% of Ukraine’s agricultural land is directly or indirectly owned by multinational corporations from the US, EU and Saudi Arabia. BlackRock and Vanguard are heavily invested in Ukraine.
So, this move to sell Ukraine’s grain all over Europe (and not to poor countries in Africa) is to benefit multinational corporations.
‘was blind but now I see….’
I read that the Ukranian grains contain toxic levels of pesticides not permitted in Poland and Hungary. Not good, obviously.
( sarcasm ) guess W H O could implement a big pharm a
jab as a (untold, unneeded) pest treatment
and water down the side affects
and over state the pros ?
I do not know
Zelensky Is Secretly Buying Fuel From Putin With U.S. Taxpayer Funds
The Ukraine government has been using American taxpayers’ funds to pay dearly for the vitally needed diesel fuel that is keeping the Ukrainian army on the move in its war with Russia. It is unknown how much the Zelensky government is paying per gallon for the fuel, but the Pentagon was paying as much as $400 per gallon to transport gasoline from a port in Pakistan, via truck or parachute, into Afghanistan during the decades-long American war there.
https://greatgameindia.com/zelensky-is-secretly-buying-fuel-from-putin-with-u-s-taxpayer-funds/
What an f……ing hot mess!!!
The E.U. is evil.
Fear Not, Biden will buy it!
Since the EU is running on windmills and American Natural Gas I would think the diesel fuel that powered the grain harvesters was purchased from Russia through Saudi Arabia or some other third party.
Will Ukraine petroleum and natural gas imports to the US be next?
At this point in world history the rich and powerful detect conspiracies everywhere, and demand drastic action against these same omnipresent conspiracies, while mocking those who detect conspiracies and now even demanding punitive action against those who detect conspiracies.
Yeah, so coherent.
It seems to me like Elon Musk has had a laser like focus on Mars since he left PayPal. Tesla is building the skillset for Mars rovers. SpaceX has the interplanetary transportation, Starlink is the communication system, the solar and storage battery business. Everything fits, except Twitter.
From a materialist perspective this obsession makes sense. If we blow ourselves to smithereens, in a hundred years or so the Martians can reseed earth with people.
Ukraine ran out of NATO munitions and apparently failed in their objective to destroy Donetsk and its agricultural sector. That failure occurred last year and only now is there any acknowledgment.
And what’s with Zelensky using US funds to purchase Russian diesel oil to run his farm equipment? I thought this was a fight to the death? “‘It is also unknown that Zelensky has been buying the fuel from Russia, the country with which it and Washington are at war. The Ukrainian president and many in his entourage have been skimming untold millions from the American dollars earmarked for diesel fuel payments,” Hersh” https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/trading-with-the-enemy
EU = Fourth Reich.
Not totally exactly, try a military colony of the US instead. But the Reich aspect may apply though. But France may be starting to chaff at the bit. On the other hand, it is only France
Just hold on a minute……it’s early to be buying wheat. Only April. Way too early! Heck, they probably haven’t even planted yet, if they can dodge the Russian tanks and missles!
maybe it’s last year’s crop, in silos?
is that feasible?
I doubt seriously that any wheat left in silos will be enough to break the markets. This is a futures ploy I’ll bet.
Last year’s harvest.
Winter wheat is planted in the fall, and harvested the next summer.
During an invasion they planted winter wheat? I kinda doubt it
Russia is prolonging the war because Ukraine is draining America of billions of dollars.
astute
Distraction to keep the ‘markets’ up a little longer.
The eventual crash will be devastating!
I’m thinking a good part of this grain is American owned grain and was produced on Amercian owned corporate land in Ukraine. Isn’t this how Putin referred to the grain being shipped from Odessa ports?
The war was supposed to be over by now with Russia ejected from Ukraine. The plan was: with the Russians out of the country, see what happens to commodity production. Unfortunately, the Russians proved to have more national resolve to conduct the military campaign than the western collation anticipated. Now the curtain has been drawn back on the narrative.
There was always the ‘fog of war’ until this Ukraine fiasco. Now we have the ‘illusion of war’. It’s all so tiresome, but at the same time helps keep the cold anger chilled.
Everything is a lie.
Everything.
Governments want to shut down “disinfo”, which is usually the uncovering of the lies.
When will the fear campaigns stop?
When they’ve beaten us into submission.
So… they will continue because we aren’t going to submit, bow down, or otherwise kiss their lily rich delusional arses.
Our government is such an embarrassment. Sad. #MAGA
I just wonder how long it will take for ALL nations to realize they are better without: the EU, the WHO, the WEF and all the other little dictators who have elected themselves leaders.
It’s time for all nation states to take their sovereignty back!
So is this why so many of our silos and processing plants have been destroyed?
And who blew up the pipeline over in Europe?