Tucker Carlson has interviewed Twitter CEO Elon Musk and will broadcast the interview on Monday at 8:00pm ET.
If Carlson had the accurate and full context of the background situation, he would be able to ask the right questions. It appears Mr. Carlson does have the key issues well understood. This should be a good interview.
In this preview segment {Direct Rumble Link Here}, Musk admits his mind was blown when he discovered the extent of the full government access to everything that was happening on Twitter. He essentially confirms two key elements. First, our long-held framework of Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop, is accurate. Second, Musk had no idea when he bought it.
There has been an ongoing debate about whether Elon Musk was aware of the U.S. government and intelligence community control over Twitter prior to the purchase; with many people saying there is no way that Musk could not know given the scale of the money involved, $42 billion and the due diligence that generally follows such transactions.
However, in this interview Musk states he had no idea how much operational control and influence the government and intelligence apparatus held over the platform prior to the purchase.
Readers here are so far ahead of the curve on this story, it’s kind of cool, funny, and yet frustrating at the same time. Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop is all a wild conspiracy theory born from the oddly wired brain of some dude in the corner of the internet; until suddenly it’s not.
Factually, it has been visible since the U.S. Government operation began in 2011/2012, yet no one was willing to believe it. For several years, CTH has been outlining the relationship between DHS and social media, specifically Twitter. However, as I said from the outset of this new awakening moment, I promise you things are not what they seem.
As noted earlier, and it is worth repeating, let me put some context to the dynamic that will hopefully clarify the issue and perhaps the context will help explain what we are seeing and not seeing as this unfolds. There are going to be a lot of citations to fill in the details, and understanding the modern Fourth Branch of Government is critical.
♦ Elevator Speech: Twitter was/is to the U.S. government as TikTok is to China. The overarching dynamic is the need to control public perceptions and opinions. DHS has been in ever increasing control of Twitter since the public-private partnership was formed in 2011/2012. Jack Dorsey lost control and became owner emeritus. As he now admits, Elon Musk had no idea.
To explain the background activity of Twitter in a way that readers could understand, I used the metaphor of Twitter as Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop.
…”The metaphorical Jack had a great idea, open a coffee shop where the beverages were free and use internal advertising as the income subsidy to operate the business. Crowds came for the free coffee, comfy couches, fellowship, conversation and enjoyment.
It didn’t matter where Jack got the coffee, how he paid for it, or didn’t, or what product advertising the customers would be exposed to while there. Few people thought about such things. Curiously, it didn’t matter what size the crowd was; in the backroom of Jack’s Coffee Shop they were able to generate massive amounts of never-ending free coffee at extreme scales.
Over time, using the justification of parking lot capacity and township regulations, not everyone would be able to park and enter. Guards were placed at the entrance to pre-screen customers. Some were denied. A debate began.”…
Here’s what happened….
In/around 2011 and 2012 the U.S. Government, Obama administration and the U.S. State Dept., came into Jack’s Coffee Shop and asked him for help.
The govt officials needed to deliver massive amounts of coffee to their allies in Egypt, Libya and the middle east to support the Arab Spring party. Jack told the officials he was willing to help but didn’t have the capacity to deliver on that scale. The officials told Jack not to worry, they would handle that aspect – he just needed to agree to the partnership and let them utilize his business. Jack agreed.
[Note, the timing here is not accidental. The operational agreement happened at the same time DHS was fine tuning the domestic surveillance systems to monitor social media platforms and target political opposition. See The Fourth Branch.]
Over the next several weeks, months and eventually years, Jack watched as hundreds of new employees flooded into the business to facilitate the rapid expansion. Along with a myriad of new faces, new equipment was delivered, and soon Jack found himself looking at heavy industrial equipment erecting large buildings in the back lots of the property. Coffee urns were replaced with massive industrial coffee delivery systems that far exceeded anything Jack ever imagined.
Business was booming, but slowly Jack realized he had lost control. Jack was riding a dragon.
As the years progressed, thousands of new employees moved into the offices of the new buildings and massive pipelines were producing incredible scales of coffee. Jack noted offices of the United Nations Human Rights Commission were now creating unique blends of coffee for international distribution, and the European Commission had an entire suite of specially trained coffee production engineers creating alternate combinations and flavors.
By 2018, Jack had essentially become an “owner emeritus”; his name was on the shingle, but the day-to-day operation of Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop had turned into an industrial park complex.
Jack saw his personal wealth attached to the success of the business, but operationally, his only responsibility was traveling to symposiums and venues where he would stand on stage and wax philosophically about the future of a coffee delivery organization he no longer controlled. Day-to-day operations were now controlled by experts in the scale of massive industrial coffee. Those experts came from the Dept of Homeland Security.
[The Intercept] – […] Behind closed doors, and through pressure on private platforms, the U.S. government has used its power to try to shape online discourse. According to meeting minutes and other records appended to a lawsuit filed by Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt, a Republican who is also running for Senate, discussions have ranged from the scale and scope of government intervention in online discourse to the mechanics of streamlining takedown requests for false or intentionally misleading information.
“Platforms have got to get comfortable with gov’t. It’s really interesting how hesitant they remain,” Microsoft executive Matt Masterson, a former DHS official, texted Jen Easterly, a DHS director, in February.
In a March meeting, Laura Dehmlow, an FBI official, warned that the threat of subversive information on social media could undermine support for the U.S. government. Dehmlow, according to notes of the discussion attended by senior executives from Twitter and JPMorgan Chase, stressed that “we need a media infrastructure that is held accountable.” (read more)
To streamline the operational efficiencies as the industrial coffee system grew, direct portals between the Washington DC government offices and Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop were created. Officials no longer needed to travel to the location of Jack’s Coffee Shop in order to operate the valves, mixers, grinders and systems to generate the scale of blends being produced.
Experts could now use direct portals to the facility to operate the coffee production systems remotely, with a limited number of specially trained (FBI) coffee engineers doing the laborious tasks and maintenance at the facility.
The badges were intimidating to Jack who went to sleep every night under the realization he no longer had any clue about how the coffee shop communication business was operating.
[…] The extent to which the DHS initiatives affect Americans’ daily social feeds is unclear. During the 2020 election, the government flagged numerous posts as suspicious, many of which were then taken down, documents cited in the Missouri attorney general’s lawsuit disclosed. And a 2021 report by the Election Integrity Partnership at Stanford University found that of nearly 4,800 flagged items, technology platforms took action on 35 percent — either removing, labeling, or soft-blocking speech, meaning the users were only able to view content after bypassing a warning screen. The research was done “in consultation with CISA,” the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency.
Prior to the 2020 election, tech companies including Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, Discord, Wikipedia, Microsoft, LinkedIn, and Verizon Media met on a monthly basis with the FBI, CISA, and other government representatives. According to NBC News, the meetings were part of an initiative, still ongoing, between the private sector and government to discuss how firms would handle misinformation during the election. (keep reading)
After several years of increasing distance from the Coffee Shop operation he initially started, eventually Jack decided it was silly to own an industrial coffee delivery system that he didn’t control. So, Jack decided to sell his shingle to someone else.
Enter, Elon Musk.
Billionaire Elon Musk, a man intimately familiar with large industrial systems and government, had been watching the disgruntled visitors to Jack’s Coffee Shop who were no longer permitted to enter. Musk saw an inequity between the amount of coffee that was available, and the scarcity of the coffee amid a community blacklisted by the operational executives and managers of the shop.
With expressions of both interest and fellowship, Mr. Elon Musk told Mr. Jack Dorsey he would take ownership of Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop and remove any discriminatory guards that were now controlling permitted entry. Jack had no aversion to Elon and eventually a deal was brokered.
After the transfer of sale was complete, Mr. Musk fired many of the guards and then set about checking the payroll to identify which group of shop employees were actually involved in the generation of coffee, and which employees were involved in promotion of the industrial coffee delivery system that were no longer needed.
Within this process, Elon Musk begins to discover the complex nature of what, at least at the surface, appeared to be an uncomplicated coffee shop. Why is there a 500-room glass walled office building on the backside of the coffee shop? What is going on in that GEC building that has anything to do with selling domestic coffee?
The sunlight revelations began surfacing several months ago, when someone of reasonably intelligent curiosity finally asked Elon Musk the right question about this direct portal from DHS into the coffee shop. Twitter owner Elon Musk had no idea a DHS portal into the coffee shop existed and what it would be for.
To put it in brutally honest terms, the State Dept initially created the partnership between the U.S. government and Twitter (Arab Spring). However, when the operations needed to become domestically centered (post Trump election), another agency stepped in. The United States Dept of Homeland Security (DHS) is the operating system running in the background of Twitter.
The State Dept started it with GEC, but ultimately DHS, via CISA, controlled Twitter. The justification for control was ‘national security.’ Mr. Elon Musk is now the face of a quasi govt controlled enterprise. This is why what we see being released by Elon Musk in the Twitter Files is actually a filtered outcome as a result of this new ownership dynamic.
Put simply, DHS stakeholders, to include the DOJ, FBI and Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI), are mitigating any consequential public exposure of their domestic surveillance activity by controlling and feeding Mr. Musk selected information about their prior Twitter operations. DHS is still the ghost in the machine.
The larger objective of U.S. involvement in social media has always been monitoring and surveillance of the public conversation, and then ultimately controlling and influencing public opinion.
I will continue peeling these types of issues apart, applying sunlight as heavily as possible, because the mechanisms and the institutions themselves need to be destroyed. They cannot be reformed because they have assembled too much power. They need to be completely defunded and removed.
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Resources:
Large Numbers of FBI Agents Work Inside Twitter
Govt Structured Cloud Computing is Social Media operating System
Tech Platforms Connected to DHS Portals
Examples of Govt Influence of Social Media Content
[…] “Intelligence agencies backed new startups designed to monitor the vast flow of information across social networks to better understand emerging narratives and risks.” [HERE]
Understanding Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop
Leaked DHS Documents Showing Connections
What Elon Musk’s China ties mean for Tesla & Twitter
Elon Musk’s symbiotic relationship – with China bending rules, making exceptions, doing everything to help
Elon Musk is a liar and a fraud.
Please name ten that are in positions of power or prominence that aren’t….no wait, I know you can’t name ten, how about five….probably not possible, let’s just make it easy and go for ONE. Do you perchance see a pattern here? God told Lot that he was going to destroy a couple of cities and Lot proceeded to try to bargain Him out of it by finding a few righteous people. Fast forward a thousand years and we are told that in the last days, the world would be like those cities which God destroyed. Jesus, when questioned about those end of times days, gave a piece of advice to them (us) which was; “Don’t be deceived!” Almost everything in the world today is a calculated act of deception. We were warned. Ergo: You’re right!
You are so correct Old Dawg! My Mother told me whenever I was a young girl; “Don’t EVER make the mistake of believing that EVERYTHING in this world is NOT about the money”!!
Elon and Jack are said to be great friends.
Apparently they still are.
I know that if my great friend sold me a 42 billion dollar company and didn’t seem to mention the small little detail that Twitter is a sham company controlled by the deep state we surly wouldn’t be great friends anymore.
I also would sue for breach of contract and demand all my money back with interest.
If they balked I would expose every one of the seditious traitors involved.
The smell test has failed .
Elon the fascist Musk is what he is.
Maybe Elon was afraid of getting Epsteined. Or his mom, or his bro.
This explains why the Twits didn’t want Musk to buy
This explains why they relied on Uncle Sam the sugar daddy to cover the bleeding 1 billion dollars of losses every year.
With Uncle Sam covering Twitter’s financial losses all of that time, do you think the Government is presently doing the same for Hollywood – underpinning the industry in order to promote the social engineering programs Government is thrusting upon us? After all, in “normal” times a CEO losing billions of $$$ (e.g., Disney) would be fired by the board or the stockholders; but no such happenings in Hollywood. And the social messaging (LGBQT+, gender, anti-white men, girl boss power, etc.) keeps coming even though the box office/streaming services receipts are exiguous.
“do you think the Government is presently doing the same for Hollywood – underpinning the industry in order to promote the social engineering programs Government is thrusting upon us?”
now do Bud Light
Let’s make a deal
is the way it seems to work.
-All productions are devilish.
-Mel Gibson took a major ousting with
Passion Of The Christ
The deep state is Hollywood, MSM, Democrat Party, and academe all supported by our tax dollars.
You left out the Republicans
Takes a lot of money to operate a pedo/Adrenochrome industry undercover, so the cloak is removed? Funds for Ukraine???
I think the US government or some other hidden hand is covering losses all over the place to keep the agenda moving forward.
Wearing my tinfoil hat and fantasizing out loud, I think about how a CIA international finance analytical office some 15 or so years ago trying to figure out how the newly introduced crypto currency idea will work spends a few bucks (miscellaneous expenses) to buy some and watch it to see how exactly it develops and by whom. At that point in time, Bitcoin was like .00001 cent per coin — at today’s level a $1,ooo purchase would be worth bazillions (as GWB might say); plenty of operational monies not under GAO scrutiny to do whatever The Swamp wants to do. Just saying.
When you look back at Iran-Contra and how Congress was in an uproar as they began hearings, starring Ollie North – the operation involved selling weapons to Iranians to finance support for the Contras?
They had to raise the money for helping the Contras because the US government was not going to OK helping them? Or am I misremembering?
But now the Deep State can deploy actually billions of dollars to finance the operations of Twitter in order to spy on American citizens – it’s OK!
“They had to raise the money for helping the Contras because the US government was not going to OK helping them?”
I remember news stories about space shuttle cost overruns, $600 toilet seats, $2700 for $.59 bolts or washers, etc etc etc…… and then having someone say years later that that is where the money came from for the black ops CIA stuff.
The funding for Jack’s Coffee Shop and all other Deep State/IC activities Sundance writes about is provided via the omnibus spending authorization process that replaced Regular Order congressional budgeting once Obama took office in 2008-09. This deliberately functioned to limit opportunities for oversight & sunlight that had previously prevented the weaponization of government that we are suffering under. No meaningful changes will come until Regular Order is restored, as this will slow the corruption of both houses of Congress and both political parties.
Amen!
truth
If that wasn’t the intent, it certainly was the result.
I’m not saying it was the intent. I simply don’t know. Either way, it’s the outcome that counts.
Sundance has explained this well and for some time
I only hope Mr Musk has some sharp assistants and that one of them will make him aware of these explanatory articles
“Hey, Elon – You should take a look at this …”
I think what is interesting is Musk is so open about the government limiting speech on the Twitter platform.
For a smart man, with clear need for government support of his companies, the question is why?
Is he being attacked in some way? Is he simply on a righteous crusade?
We have seen the onslaught of Trump and his advisors who, in many ways, was critical of IC and Federal Agencies.
I hope he is holding some cards still.
Because they are/Will coming after him and others associated with him.
They are doing the same thing on Instagram and FB with the Head commies Mark Zuckerberg and Cheryl Sandberg in charge. Any person who is a Trump supporter is being shadow banned without them knowing. It takes a special kind of Evil to shadow ban people who are trying to communicate to their loved ones online. The same kind of evil that Democrats always showcase.
If you look at Twitter and Facebook going down the road these years since they were first started, pretty much parallel insofar as gathering information from innocent, law-abiding American citizens just enjoying the means of expression, staying in touch, is it very possible that Facebook is as compromised as Twitter is but it is just going on as it has been, while Twitter has now diverged from that path as it is now in the ownership of Elon Musk . . .
is Mark Zuckerberg very much in the grip of the Deep State while attempting to give the impression of someone building, developing, improving his product (with the creepy Meta)?
Did the Deep State take a calculated risk that Elon Musk could be also entrapped? Happy to go along with the program?
I like to bring up the startling example of Facebook being used by the Deep State in that scene from “Snowden” where Edward Snowden is being shown how to look for a “hook” on someone by looking at that person and all their associated contacts (wife, children, friends, et al) and finding that special something that you can use to get your target to do what you need them to do.
Praying for the continued protection and wisdom that may be there for Elon Musk as he deals with these people who expect everyone to be lemmings, betting that the individual will not use their own private, God-given thinking . . . and wisdom they may derive from their fear, awe, respect for the Creator.
“Two roads diverged in yellow wood and not knowing which way to go, I stood, pondering the way . . . “*
*from “The Road Less Traveled” by Robert Frost
“If you look at Twitter and Facebook going down the road these years since they were first started, ”
I am no expert on tech, but it won’t surprise me at all to someday discover that Facebook was a CIA creation founded in the heady days of The Patriot Act as a way to turn surveillance from foreign to domestic citizens.
DARPA’s “Lifelog’ ended on the day that Facebook started. There’s your connection. https://www.corbettreport.com/the-weird-darpa-facebook-coincidence-you-never-heard-about/
Going down the Lifelog rabbit hole was interesting. One name I came across was Katie Harbath who, per her bipartisanpolicy.org bio, was in charge of “managing elections” for Facebook. I wonder what that looks like. And she has her fingers in a lot of pies today.
A new name to research. Thanks for the info…..
very interesting!
A while after I posted the above I realized that I did not have the right title on the poem by Robert Frost that I mentioned – it should be “The Road Not Taken” – and I misquoted, also, that bit that I apparently misremembered – so, I don’t want any of the younger generation not familiar with the matter being taken down a primrose path- I want to correct myself here as it is too late to go back and fix my original statement!
Thank you 👍❤️
Bill Gates and Windows is part of the same mechanism.
“Readers here are so far ahead of the curve on this story…”
Hey! That’s the Treehouse trademark !
Err. . . What are ‘DMs’?
‘Direct message’.. it’s supposed to be a private message or ‘PM’ between one and another.. But anyone that trusted that definition is mistaken..
Direct Message…
Only you and whomever you want can see the message.
Direct Message…
Turns out it’s only you and whomever you want, and all US government intelligence agencies, that can see the message.
The U.S. government can see all DMs. It was obviously created to give suckers the illusion they had a private means of communication. It’s private from the public but not from Big Brother. 4th Amendment is dead, buried, and moldering in the grave.
Um, Mr. Joiner, I’ll bet there are a lot of us Treepers that racked our brains trying to figure that one out before googling it. Data Modules? Dumb Mistakes?
Dumb Mistakes? Yup. Turns out you were right on that one. Dumb thing to do, trusting them. It’s OK, though. I’m sure they’ve been fascinated with the correspondence between myself and my proctologist.
Thank you.
Time for the hangman’s noose…..
personally, i feel that dorsey, musk, and zuck are all gov tools that operate in different ways, and for different reasons. it’s just to hard to believe that dorsey’s curiosity did’nt require him to take a closer look when the new wing of the building popped up. musk, he’s a buyer, always worked with the gov on finances , and soon he will have a complete starlink up and running(what’s that movie? skynet is online or something?)…and zuck, he moves money around, such a generous person.
The old mafia saying that you Musk, Zuckerberg, Dorsey etc) are given an option you can’t refuse. Names change the IC doesn’t.
Stop for just a minute and think about all tech advances over the last 40 years ago. Apple, Microsoft funded on the sly by .gov. Our gov has taken control to either monetize or weapon use to use these this tech against us. Hell just look at
television, keeps us all entertained and in our homes safe and docile instead of watching what .gov is up to.
Was never part of any of the main social media sites. Initially was on Fakebook but terminated my account after a month or 2 when conservatives started complaining about it’s corporate activity. Pretty sure just commenting here on the CTH and a few other conservative sites still puts us on somebody’s radar
Yes if you are a human you are on numerous radars. If they don’t have the info themselves, they simply buy it from 3rd parties that scraped it from your phone. And if they want more they simply subpoena your email provider, isp, vpn, or whoever’s else’s services you use online, along with an NDA to prevent you from knowing. Freedom isn’t even a distant memory anymore. It’s been long gone.
Once you are under the Eye of Sauron they’ll have everything.
It seems the only thing that could destroy this surveillance of everybody is an Electronic Magnetic Pulse (EMP) attack. It would destroy the grid and all massive computer systems that watch and listen to all of us. We would be instantly thrust back into the 1800’s and most would not survive the experience. The cure would be a catastrophe but might be the only solution to an out-of-control state spying system now in full effect.
Returning REAL liberty to the people might require the most devastating of events to achieve.
Complete surveillance as practiced now requires a functioning electric grid and computer electronics on a massive scale. An EMP attack could end that in the blink of an eye.
An emp wouldn’t knock out enough electronics to do that, no matter how big we could design in this day. It can’t go over the horizon, so they’d need numerous – thousands, perhaps tens of thousands emps to go off around the world. And even then, there’s still a ton of devices that weren’t plugged in that should work fine.
Set off high enough up in the atmosphere, it would accomplish it.
I am far from the smartest person in the treehouse and yet I have suspected long before Musk bought Twitter that our government controlled it. Just like they control the universities, public schools, media, medicine, Entertainment industry, etc…
Musk is pretty in the know and savvy. I find it hard to believe that he had no idea that government had their claws into that social media program that made sure the conversation narratives paralleled with the government narrative. Obviously Jack was being paid big bucks to allow censorship by the government. I imagine that topic must have surfaced during negotiations between Jack and Musk.
Musk is not on the side of your typical person like you and I. He is all about implementing transhumanism. There are plenty of videos with proof of him saying just that. I have often wondered if he wasn’t at least part robot. His eyes never connect with people during interviews, they always look like they are far off in another world. His speech pattern is odd as well.
Just my 2¢ for what it is worth.
I was with you until you brought up transhumanism. Then I was totally with you!
I think Elon had an Epiphany.
Its called demon possession.
Musk has a form of Autism–Aspergers
That’s one of the problems with Elon. They often have big gaps when it comes to social skills.
If transhumanism is one of his pet ideologies, what does any follower of Jesus Christ have in common with Elon? Take care of your own loved ones, pray for them first, and keep your own Christian faith strong.
Does having a transcendent body make one Transhuman?
If so, then Risen Lord was the first and best version of transhumanism offered to everyone for free if you’ll just follow Him.
All the other attempts are just inferior knockoffs whispered into the ears of the elites trying to achieve the perfection of humanity without that pesky caveat (they want to rule, not to follow).
It’s often said that the Democrats want their slaves back. The demons do too. They had all of humanity in chains until Jesus Christ offered freedom to us all.
Behind the elites are the evil spirits who want their slaves back.
Out: Carnac the Magnificent.
In: Sundance the Magnificent.
It is the way of rule by lie
The Two Party Evil Money and Power Cilt of D C!
Don’t need or want you!
Too
Stay unknown to them!
A visit to GITMO is scheduled for Jack, imho.
No need to pack a bag, they will have everything he needs.
Phew, that relieves my concerns.
Since all .gov Feds are over on Twitter, I don’t have to worry about anything I post on Facebook.
Wait a moment, someone’s knocking at my door, I’ll just go get it…..
They’re doing the same in Canada. The process has either just begun or is about to begin very soon. The Bill was just passed and will monitor all media, with the intent of including emails also, to prevent the spread of ‘disinformation’ and ‘misinformation’.
Justin Trudeau has done so much harm to the country, it’s bewildering. And he won the last election with only 24.6 of the vote while Elections Canada admitted to losing 200,000 ballots.
Canada is and has never been anything more than how it was described by Stephen Harper in a 1997 speech to the National Citizens Coalition; ‘a third rate socialist country that enjoys bragging about free health care.’
I believe one of the beloved Quebec separatist leaders stated that Canada ‘isn’t a real country.’
It was the height of cynicism for the Liberals to put Trudeau’s face as the face of the Party. Young and (supposedly) handsome, he would appeal to Canadian women whose brains are largely undeveloped past the point of walking upright and whose panties are easily wetted by someone who they think will f*** her if she votes for him (or anyone who promises to take care of them).
Trudeau also appealed to brain dead Quebec voters who appreciated how Pierre Elliot Trudeau had f***ed over Western Canada (“why should I sell your wheat?”) while lavishing praise on Quebec, mandating nationwide bilingualism and switching from US-friendly Imperial measurements to European-friendly Metric. What a fun way to stick a thumb in the eye of the US, this appealed to Canadians who reflexively hate the US’s emphasis on liberty over mediocrity and subsidy.
Trudeau stood in front of a room full of incompetent female voters (3 ways of saying 1 thing) and said he has an admiration for China’s government, though couching it in terms of economic levers, not the real communist stuff like shutting down speech, banning guns, imposing the War Measures act (like the previous Trudeau did) and freezing citizens’ bank accounts. The women squirmed in their seats because their panties were wet and their brains full of fantasies of being f***ed on a Cuban beach.
And then, after the start of covid hysteria, Canadians had a chance to turf Trudeau in the autumn of 2021. He had already demonstrated his Statist approach to governance — things like firing ‘the first First Nations female Attorney General’ after she refused to go along with Trudeau’s wanting to bury the SNC Lavalin issue, things like his apparent sexual abuse of a student while he was a teacher, things like questionable fees paid to family members for speeches. paying media $600 million to give favorable coverage to the Liberal government — but many Canadians marked their ballot for Trudeau because what could possibly go wrong with a communist leader in the midst of a government created medical crisis? Most of all, Canadians voted for someone who promised to protect medicare, as Canadians’ biggest goal in life appears to be to live long enough to get some of that sweet sweet free health care they’ve been voting for their entire life.
Chinese money and lost ballots make no difference in a country in which the majority of seats in Parliament are in Eastern welfare addled Canada and just votes from legal voters are enough to elect a communist government before the polls in Western Canada are even closed.
Preston Manning’s call in the late 80s for an elected Senate met the most fierce resistance in Eastern Canada that had no intention of letting Western Canada (especially at the time Alberta, which was considered to be the most red ncck part of the country because people there liked to work in the oil patch) get its hands of the wheel of government.
Canada has already hit the iceberg, the only question is how long till it sinks completely.
Canada is a colony of the UK, or more precisely the Crown, just like AUS & NZ.
They all have Governors-General.
Although rare (but it has happened), whenever the King/Queen is ‘displeased’ with the way the governments of those countries are doing things, or infringing on the Crown’s assets, the Governor-General of said country can dismiss the entire government. It has happened before!!!
Additionally, look at the oaths of the military forces of those countries. Their sworn allegiance is to whoever the current regent is, the King/Queen.
Now, think about those implications! The ‘countries’ of the ‘Realm’ being independent is the Grand Illusion!!!
Second paragraph is offensive and not appropriate on this site. FLAGGED!
have a banana
What is up with you MZ? That was disgusting. This is not BB or TGP or ZH… this is the 🌴 🏠. Go to the Open Thread and read Stillwater every morning before posting.
someone else mentioned Canada; I replied to that. You will note mine was a response, not a thread of its own out of the blue.
What did you find disgusting? Trudeau’s described conduct or the references to the described conduct?
I am glad that I was able to cause you to get your panties in a state of maladjustment.
I don’t know that the truth is ever inappropriate.
Perhaps you take offense to the fact that what he said is true.
How many times do people need to hear it?
Back in the day it was Assange and Snowden, people dropped their jaw and went on about their daily lives. It won’t be any different this time.
Back in 2013, Maxine Waters (longtime California Democrat) talked about Obama having a database that “will have information about everything on every individual in ways that it’s never been done before”.
Imagine how a corrupt government could back-door into every aspect of our online activity to build that database. Including facial recognition.
Speculating here, but I sometimes wonder how Google got to be so big and so powerful. Is it just a coincidence that ogle is within the name Google?
Pardon, you misspelled Ghoul-gle.
….and she was excited about it! The saddest part is that there was no alarm raised by the “opposition” party.
Aunt Maxine also said a lot about how ‘government’ was going to be “all about taking over your businesses for socialism”.
Maxi pad is stupid, corrupt, and evil.
Whoops did I just post the definition of politician?
We first need an opposition party
I note that what used to be called “PMs” changed to “DMs”. It always has purpose when terms are changed.
So. Who was Secretary of State under Trump? How about Homeland Security? Why didn’t either of these people try to put a stop to this imposition of the government will on the people?
You tell me who was Secretary of State “under Trump”? And who was about Homeland Security “under Trump”?
Do your own work first.
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Secretary of State-Rex Tillerson and Mike Pompeo,both snakes. Kirstjen Nielsen was DHS–Lawyer, John Kelly protege, WEF advisory board, Georgetown undergrad. She was a snake brought in by Kelly.
Wrong adverb. It’s not “underTrump”, it’s “over”.
That is the state of our government
I applaud Sundance for his ability to see and document by research.
I don’t believe for a moment that Musk did not know . He worked very hard to get it.
It is amazing how much MUSK does and is able to calmly stay on Twitter, make interview appearances, stay personally in the news cycle. If he is truly on his own with people, it is amazing, bordering on miraculous what he is able to do. Or not true but a fabricated illusion.
The possibility exists for PDJT.
We know Biden isn’t capable do doing what he does. There is not blundering demented idiot stumbling through the levers of the united state. There is a cold calculating machine like Drunken Kung Fu, for which he is only giving the appearance of incompetence while the tentacles dig deeper into the republic.
Zuckerberg, Gates, Steve Jobs, Tesla, voting machine success, monoclonal antibody success. All too good to be true. Just as much a rigged lottery as our lottery systems and casinos.
These plays, like Shakespeare said, are calculated deception that keeps you coming back just like an addiction, until you no longer can stop.
Sometimes PDJT feels that way to me. Sometimes CTH and Sundance feel that way. Our culture has a term for it: Hope porn. Controlled opposition to keep us from taking matters in our own hands out of hope that there is a saviour out there, that surely the good people on the inside will not let something so bad as it looks actually happen.
Where to start? What to do? Sundance says, Seek the Lord, get right with Him.
Of course there is great return on investment in that course of action spiritually.
I think there is high likelihood of the best return on investment here on earth as well.
He that has ears, let him hear.
To go along with this article,
Dr Shiva (math, science, computers etc)
knows and shares insights of government controls,
and
so do others:
For just a little clue, watch and listen ( and someone has researched a lot of facts to back it up ):
Link (summary of findings – Dr. Shiva )
https://rumble.com/v2glmtq-dr.-shiva-blasts-musk-conservative-influencers-as-controlled-opposition-in-.html
p.s.
when e m knew of it does not matter.
It (govm’t controls of t w i t content, non content) has been happening – and it is still happening.
( no matter if mat talib (sp) has been providing tantalizing tid bits scattered over months – it’s primarily to help market t w i t to user$ etc…. the token revealing is just the tip of the iceberg
(and they have known it) )
imho
See Dr. Shiva for use in your own discernment of the truths.
p.s.
It’s not whom found the truth.
It’s about seeking the truth – and sharing it with others for their awareness and discernment.
p.s.
the d c obfuscation miss $ystem will for the most part, will seek to protect, whom is hiding the truths.
[ until “they” decide that “they” need a scapegoat, or extra cover, and whatever means… to miss protect their reputation.]
(many examples, over decades…at a lot of cost…)
Love thy neighbors
SD Called it SOOOOO long ago.
Well done, Sir!
Keep peeling that onion.
Thank you.
Who really knows, but let’s consider these factors:
Musk is heavily leveraged in China ( no explanation needed here)
More importantly, how would it be possible for Musk to not find out what we’re talking about here after buying Twitter? Was this not expected nor anticipated?
These two factors alone lead me to “almost” conclude that it’s an intentional dog walking event. This is seems to be akin to how and why the recent classified documents were leaked out. Is Musk the twitter patsy? Not at that level of gov entanglement and $$$ both to the US and Chicoms, both of which seem to be entangled as well.
This whole thing reeks of demographic capture. Think Q.
I’m not making a declarative statement here, but I’m very close to making my mind up on this. I do NOT trust anyone who is heavily invested in putting microchips in human brains and that wears baphomet garb ( not a conclusive list by far) , and dates a demon lady named “Grimes”. I’m sorry to be this blunt but good God.
What do I really know, nothing but man it stinks.
What Elon The Electrified knows the CCP knows.
“The means of defense against foreign danger have been always the instruments of tyranny at home.“
James Madison – Speech, Constitutional Convention (June 29, 1787)
A modified version of OpenAI’s bot was encouraged to strategize to eliminate humanity, and it got to work right away.
Your Twitter analysis was a bit of brilliance, SD.
I’ve been following Musk’s tweets the last few weeks.
I just don’t find him exceedingly clever, which actually argues a bit for his being installed as point man in a number of public-private partnerships.
This also puts him in a ‘damned if you do, damned if you don’t’ space for me.
If his due diligence was so abysmally lacking what does that say? And if he’s a Five Eyes muppet, well, that says all the wrong things too.
We are living in an inverted totalitarian state (Wolin) and these mostly hidden partnerships are Exhibit A.
DOD recruits Pfizer and Moderna to poison the world. The latter are the front organizations. The conductor and instigator is the Deep State.
“Musk states he had no idea how much operational control and influence the government and intelligence apparatus held over the platform prior to the purchase.”
Perhaps the operative words here are ‘how much’. Surely Dorsey knew he had lost control. Dorsey was a friend of Musk’s. Would he not have told him?? Presumably, Musk knew that the government had control over the platform, but didn’t know how much.
And I again have to remember that EVERYTHING Musk has done in the past has a connection to the US government. EVERYTHING. I’m still not convinced of his ‘innocence’, and still wonder if the actual operation here is to get those who left Twitter to come back. Because they had left, was it not the intelligence agencies/government that were losing control over the very people they wanted to surveil???
moved
It all goes right back to one power grab that we as a nation were warned about by Alex Jones THE OBAMA DECEPTION !
Certainly it was in play before Obama however he and his socialist supporters and implants in key positions made all the weaponization Of Government Against the American Citizens a truly powerful threat that is nearly inescapable.
Time for a biblical proportioned enema of what is now the asshole of America Washington DC
Robert, I am stealing the “biblical proportioned enema”!! It fits many institutions, including health/sick care in America.
Washington, District of Corruption would be a good start to an epic “cleansing”.
Some random, early morning thoughts:
Why did Barak shut down NASA? An organizations with an infrastructure made of old Military, mostly patriotic; made of the best STEM minds of the 50’s – 80’s. Most now in economically encouraged retirement and cut off from access to TS material.
Now Elon Musk has control of :
SpaceX (48%) and the multi silo’d, defense/patriot built NASA replacement is under his control. Missles, Rockets, bombs, science. A WEF/Government frontier
Neuralink: an internet, communications replacement, more versatile and protable, and easier to control than the multilayered internet. A government/WEF frontier
Tesla: Rolling in money, but very few visible cars. Probably rolling in Government deals due to participation in Green (If Elon’s doing it) at WEF government frontier.
Twitter: the largest social media save Facebook, discovered government infiltration and public opinion swaying mechanism. A WEF/government frontier.
Did this just happen? is it possible?
Elon happened to have a cameo appearance in the elevator with Amber Heard, who, in her role as a female vixen/villian, incurred the wrath of more Americans than Biden/Trump votes combined.
This drama, starring woke Johnny Depp and Amber in the greatest attention grabbing media diversion of 2022. Elon is there too.
Elon supposedly slept with her in the middle of all of his and her other relationships. The seemingly smartest man in the world gets a judgement pass, because he is so smart, likely autistic, like Sheldon in Big Bang. How can one man be involved in so much?
How can Donald Trump be involved in so much
How can Barack Obama be involved in so much?
How can Joe Biden and his wayward son be involved in so much?
How did Devon Nunez go from sitting on one of the most powerful committees in the government to head of Truth Social?
How about the Drama of Nancy (curse you Donald Trump) the wicked witch of the West.
It is all drama paraded infront of us, via media imbedded in devices that are more an more needed not just to talk but do our jobs. 90% of the medical care I do, I am forced to document or execute through a computer or phone. Access to the keys to practice: Licensing, billing, education, information, communication — happens through these devices laced with addictive material more powerful than crack cocaine or Fentanyl.
If We the People were sitting bound and gagged in a chair with CIA/Intelligence officers, being water boarded, and mind games with our personal data in order to be manipulated, we would not be any more confused than we are now.
It is surreal. The line between reality and imaginary gets fuzzier and fuzzier. The emotions we feel mesmerize our behavior, like a cobra dancing in front of its prey. It is manufactured drama, fed to us using cutting edge science in sociology, psychology, neurochemistry, economics.
We used to seek education via experience, world travel, from a broad array of sources. Now our view of the world is coming through tightly controlled portals, into which mind boggling amounts of money are spent.
“I count it all rubbish, compared to the joy of knowing Jesus Christ my Lord” — Paul
Read the scripture below- then see the comments on relevance to this thread below.
Paul the apostle, writing to the Philipians in 3:1-14:
They do not just want our weapons. They do not just want our money. They want our soul.
PDJT: They are not coming after me. They are coming after you. I am standing in their way.
Sundance:
My suggested refinement:
• The DNC wants [your soul] The RNC wants money.
• The DNC uses money to get [free access to hedonistic desires], The RNC sells [access to our souls and the soul of this nation] to get money.
• The ideology [free access to hedonistic desires] of the DNC drives their donor activity. The ideology of the donors [money and power is more important that Truth and righteousness] drives the RNC.
Sometimes I am not even sure if PDJT or Sundance are actors on the stage, but they are the most reliable sensible sources walking this earth that make sense and resonate with me.
I have had welling within me a desire to fight for right. That we are in danger. I am ready to lay down my life, but evil is everywhere, and I don’t know which hill to charge.
Sundance points the way:
They want us to give up our souls.
μολὼν λαβέ Molon Labe
Come and get them. I defy you. My soul is secured in the eternal realm. Christ is the hill I charge. The race I run.
Sorry, but Musk knew. With all those big black buildings in the back lot and the industrial size coffee machines in the fire areas not to mention the surfeit of new employees, Musk would have to have been a man with blinders on, and he is not that man.
A government back door to control major social media was exposed way back in 2020. What is being revealed now by Musk and Taibbi is only a “limited hangout” as it is called in the science of propaganda to make us think ALL has been revealed. Not even close.
Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai who went to court over this (and the case was SEALED and he was gagged, which he then violated immediately) informed Musk of this case after Musk’s takeover of Twitter and Musk said, to paraphrase, “Interesting” and then never said another word about it.
Bannon interviews Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai (13:40 long)
5 Apr 2023
https://rumble.com/v2glmtq-dr.-shiva-blasts-musk-conservative-influencers-as-controlled-opposition-in-.html
More:
https://rumble.com/v2gtj3q-dr.-shiva-elon-musks-backdoor-censorship-ecosystem-is-silicon-valleys-fasci.html
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Dr. SHIVA’s Historic First Amendment Lawsuit to Win Back Freedom: First Case in U.S. To Show Government MADE Twitter Silence Political Speech
May 15, 2021
https://vashiva.com/first-amendment-twitter-galvin-lawsuit/
It would be better to explain it without the coffee metaphor
CTH has given ‘Fair Warning’ on TWTR a number of times now – Use TWTR and you are being directly surveilled by the American Stasi.
If you use an iphone, Android phone, Alexa or Ring, and have not taken extreme measures, you can be directly surveilled.
The government didn’t commandeer Twitter, They created it.
“Reading the seams on a fastball” Rush RIP
Sunlight always the best disinfectant, rip those curtains open!
Most of these Social Media companies emanate from DARPA Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, taxpayers, you and I. For example, DARPA developed Life Log, LL shuts down Feb. 04 the next day (Zuckerberg selected) Facebook opens hmmm…
Anything the swamp touches becomes a weapon.
I would like to know why Twitter continues to permanently suspend users who strongly support President Trump? Why aren’t users given the ability to get reinstated? Who is making the decisions? Does Elon know how his company is actually being run?
Is this documented? I believe you. We need documentation
Yes. My account was just permanently suspended without warning after I vocalized my opposition to Trump’s arraignment in NYC. I’m careful with my words, didn’t break any rules and would never threaten anyone. When you write Twitter for an explanation, they never get back to you. I’m certain this is happening to many smaller accounts like mine. So much for being a “free speech absolutist” as Elon likes to call himself.
Hmmmm…..yes and no.
At some point caveat emptor applies -to everyone.
Didn’t understand the business model from day one?
Didn’t track the recurring privacy violations/security compromises?
Didn’t observe the remarkable uptick in social media polarization/propaganda when Obama first ran for election?
All due respect, gov’t abuses aside, the individual bears some responsibility for decision making. Information consumers saw the “it’s free!” flashing neon lights and dove in head first.
Your last statement is why I haven’t engaged any of the chat AIs. What are they taking from me as I engage them?
Musk was “allowed” to buy Twitter and release the Twitter files by the IC. Why are we so excited by this new IC manipulation? It’s just part of a plan to further enslave us in some way.
Governments in all shapes, forms, sizes, and types have always had agents (thugs) who do the spying and head-knocking.
Queen Elizabeth had William Cecil.
Even the most minor gang leader has at least one henchman to keep tabs on the rest of the gang.
It’s human nature. It’s the way power-hungry people operate.
People naturally want to control their lives, and many (most) will do anything to achieve that goal.
Your resources about government spying on citizens is missing a crucial element. YOU are missing a crucial element, Sundance.
The NY Post broke the story of the Pentagon’s signature reduction force of 60,000 enlisted soldiers and contractors using fake identities and online aliases to engage in psychological operations against the American People. One signature reduction operator could be behind HUNDREDS of profiles on Disqus, Discord, and every other social media chat group, including here at Conservative Treehouse (remember when Sundance was building this site after Disqus cut him off? The ADL had loud objections about lack of censorship. Their objections ceased, and this forum is moderated by ADL standards)
Now take those hundreds of bot accounts operated by that one Pentagon operator and multiply them by 60,000. Now you see why it is so infuriating that every social media site bans anyone that is gang flagged.
You can also now see why it seems that most Americans don’t care too much about stolen elections, govt spying, or bioweapon programs aimed at American children. It is because most of those on social media that you believe are like you are in fact government agents.
And NOBODY ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE HAS MENTIONED A SINGLE WORD SINCE SIGNATURE REUCTION WAS REVEALED.
Instead, there are large numbers of republicans trying to ban the use of VPN. I am currently able to post this because I use a VPN to connect to a temporary database program for an email address. It allows me to go right around the Bolshevik ADL moderators and all the govt agents that flag posts from truth tellers. If they make VPN use a crime, then people like Zuckerberg and even Sundance will have final say on free speech. When they ban you, there is no appeal. You either submit or do what I am doing right now.
Fight back. Do not submit to govt spying. Do not be deceived by govt puppet shows. You are literally SURROUNDED by Ray Epps. ACT LIKE IT AND EMBRACE TRUE FREE SPEECH…
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Demockracy: Skunks, all of them.
It’s not just Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop… Twitter was late to the party.
This has been ongoing since the Cold war. The NSA has been riding the technology wave since the very beginning. Certainly they were inside Ma Bell, etc. There were rumors of backdoors in Windows and Internet backbones and routers and when smart phones hit the scene it was Christmas in July for the agency. That’s the reason why they are so angry with Edward Snowden. His whistleblower actions torpedo’d their most valuable toy by revealing to the world that they could hack those smartphones with impunity. Everyone walking around with cameras and microphones and constant communication traffic as well as sharing all the intimate details of their lives on social media. Add in the traffic cameras, license plate readers and all the cellular Stinger like devices that are mounted on telephone poles or rooftops and impersonate a cell tower to intercept comms. They were surveilling US Citizens at levels never before possible. They redacted US Persons from their transcripts. But along came Obama who opened up those NSA databases to 17 other agencies. The power of the Patriot Act allowed for US Citizen surveillance after FISA Court warrants were issued. Then the FBI allowed civilian contractors to access the data and General McMaster let it be known that they were running a thousand queries without a warrant. Redacted US Persons were unmasked. The moment Trump announced and before he hit the ground floor off that escalator those queries began.
Privacy is now merely a myth and what US Citizens believe to be the truth, mere fantasy.
Add into the list: Medical records.
Computerized records were mandated in early 2000’s. The deep state and WEF accomplished many things with this. I’ll expound another time: access, control of physicians, control of payment, excuses not to pay, data for artificial intelligence and replacing personal physicians, access to medical behavior, control of the largest pot of money on the planet: 4 Trillion dollars/year.
Whats in it: your diagnoses, medications, financial information, demographics, social information, family history, the places you’ve lived, mental health, caregiver responsibility, pharmacies, family members, religion.
Legal access to your computerized or printed records is given to your physicians, insurance companies and their contractors, hospitals and their contractors, specialists and their contractors,
CountryDoc: You are correct.
Of course the deep state has control. How can we stop them? That is the question. We have to stop using cell phones for one.
One of the many benefits to the Deep State of digital currency is that you need a device to perform any financial transactions.
Voluntary participation is required to keep all of these social media platforms operational. What puzzles me is; if people have knowledge they are being spied on, censored and fed misinformation on these sites, why do they continue participating? Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop would be forced to close if it’s customers stopped supporting it.
Luna: Fear of missing out. It’s bizarre, but, it’s real. People like to feel that they are “in” on the action.
JFK thought he knew about the CIA. DJT thought he knew about election cheating. Elon says, “hold my beer.”
After Snowden’ s revelations everyone should have known what was up. Yet Musk wants us to believe he had no idea that the government could monitor PM traffic. I don’t believe it.
Like the old Soviet Union, everyone has a file. All communications and everything you do online is recorded/copied and kept in your “file.”
I’m convinced that Donald Trump’s private conversation about being able to grab ‘em by the p**** was pulled from stored NSA surveillance. How odd would it be that his private conversation somehow came to light years later, at the very convenient time that Hillary’s flying monkeys were looking for something to damage him politically. I don’t believe the official lame explanation on how those words were supposedly ‘caught’.
No doubt about it.
We are all awake, when are the rest of them going to open their eyes? What does it take?
So much manipulation for so long on an unimaginable scale. Defund every federal agency.
Who would be doing the defunding ?