Tucker Carlson has interviewed Twitter CEO Elon Musk and will broadcast the interview on Monday at 8:00pm ET.
If Carlson had the accurate and full context of the background situation, he would be able to ask the right questions. It appears Mr. Carlson does have the key issues well understood. This should be a good interview.
In this preview segment {Direct Rumble Link Here}, Musk admits his mind was blown when he discovered the extent of the full government access to everything that was happening on Twitter. He essentially confirms two key elements. First, our long-held framework of Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop, is accurate. Second, Musk had no idea when he bought it.
There has been an ongoing debate about whether Elon Musk was aware of the U.S. government and intelligence community control over Twitter prior to the purchase; with many people saying there is no way that Musk could not know given the scale of the money involved, $42 billion and the due diligence that generally follows such transactions.
However, in this interview Musk states he had no idea how much operational control and influence the government and intelligence apparatus held over the platform prior to the purchase.
Readers here are so far ahead of the curve on this story, it’s kind of cool, funny, and yet frustrating at the same time. Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop is all a wild conspiracy theory born from the oddly wired brain of some dude in the corner of the internet; until suddenly it’s not.
Factually, it has been visible since the U.S. Government operation began in 2011/2012, yet no one was willing to believe it. For several years, CTH has been outlining the relationship between DHS and social media, specifically Twitter. However, as I said from the outset of this new awakening moment, I promise you things are not what they seem.
As noted earlier, and it is worth repeating, let me put some context to the dynamic that will hopefully clarify the issue and perhaps the context will help explain what we are seeing and not seeing as this unfolds. There are going to be a lot of citations to fill in the details, and understanding the modern Fourth Branch of Government is critical.
♦ Elevator Speech: Twitter was/is to the U.S. government as TikTok is to China. The overarching dynamic is the need to control public perceptions and opinions. DHS has been in ever increasing control of Twitter since the public-private partnership was formed in 2011/2012. Jack Dorsey lost control and became owner emeritus. As he now admits, Elon Musk had no idea.
To explain the background activity of Twitter in a way that readers could understand, I used the metaphor of Twitter as Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop.
…”The metaphorical Jack had a great idea, open a coffee shop where the beverages were free and use internal advertising as the income subsidy to operate the business. Crowds came for the free coffee, comfy couches, fellowship, conversation and enjoyment.
It didn’t matter where Jack got the coffee, how he paid for it, or didn’t, or what product advertising the customers would be exposed to while there. Few people thought about such things. Curiously, it didn’t matter what size the crowd was; in the backroom of Jack’s Coffee Shop they were able to generate massive amounts of never-ending free coffee at extreme scales.
Over time, using the justification of parking lot capacity and township regulations, not everyone would be able to park and enter. Guards were placed at the entrance to pre-screen customers. Some were denied. A debate began.”…
Here’s what happened….
In/around 2011 and 2012 the U.S. Government, Obama administration and the U.S. State Dept., came into Jack’s Coffee Shop and asked him for help.
The govt officials needed to deliver massive amounts of coffee to their allies in Egypt, Libya and the middle east to support the Arab Spring party. Jack told the officials he was willing to help but didn’t have the capacity to deliver on that scale. The officials told Jack not to worry, they would handle that aspect – he just needed to agree to the partnership and let them utilize his business. Jack agreed.
[Note, the timing here is not accidental. The operational agreement happened at the same time DHS was fine tuning the domestic surveillance systems to monitor social media platforms and target political opposition. See The Fourth Branch.]
Over the next several weeks, months and eventually years, Jack watched as hundreds of new employees flooded into the business to facilitate the rapid expansion. Along with a myriad of new faces, new equipment was delivered, and soon Jack found himself looking at heavy industrial equipment erecting large buildings in the back lots of the property. Coffee urns were replaced with massive industrial coffee delivery systems that far exceeded anything Jack ever imagined.
Business was booming, but slowly Jack realized he had lost control. Jack was riding a dragon.
As the years progressed, thousands of new employees moved into the offices of the new buildings and massive pipelines were producing incredible scales of coffee. Jack noted offices of the United Nations Human Rights Commission were now creating unique blends of coffee for international distribution, and the European Commission had an entire suite of specially trained coffee production engineers creating alternate combinations and flavors.
By 2018, Jack had essentially become an “owner emeritus”; his name was on the shingle, but the day-to-day operation of Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop had turned into an industrial park complex.
Jack saw his personal wealth attached to the success of the business, but operationally, his only responsibility was traveling to symposiums and venues where he would stand on stage and wax philosophically about the future of a coffee delivery organization he no longer controlled. Day-to-day operations were now controlled by experts in the scale of massive industrial coffee. Those experts came from the Dept of Homeland Security.
[The Intercept] – […] Behind closed doors, and through pressure on private platforms, the U.S. government has used its power to try to shape online discourse. According to meeting minutes and other records appended to a lawsuit filed by Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt, a Republican who is also running for Senate, discussions have ranged from the scale and scope of government intervention in online discourse to the mechanics of streamlining takedown requests for false or intentionally misleading information.
“Platforms have got to get comfortable with gov’t. It’s really interesting how hesitant they remain,” Microsoft executive Matt Masterson, a former DHS official, texted Jen Easterly, a DHS director, in February.
In a March meeting, Laura Dehmlow, an FBI official, warned that the threat of subversive information on social media could undermine support for the U.S. government. Dehmlow, according to notes of the discussion attended by senior executives from Twitter and JPMorgan Chase, stressed that “we need a media infrastructure that is held accountable.” (read more)
To streamline the operational efficiencies as the industrial coffee system grew, direct portals between the Washington DC government offices and Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop were created. Officials no longer needed to travel to the location of Jack’s Coffee Shop in order to operate the valves, mixers, grinders and systems to generate the scale of blends being produced.
Experts could now use direct portals to the facility to operate the coffee production systems remotely, with a limited number of specially trained (FBI) coffee engineers doing the laborious tasks and maintenance at the facility.
The badges were intimidating to Jack who went to sleep every night under the realization he no longer had any clue about how the coffee shop communication business was operating.
[…] The extent to which the DHS initiatives affect Americans’ daily social feeds is unclear. During the 2020 election, the government flagged numerous posts as suspicious, many of which were then taken down, documents cited in the Missouri attorney general’s lawsuit disclosed. And a 2021 report by the Election Integrity Partnership at Stanford University found that of nearly 4,800 flagged items, technology platforms took action on 35 percent — either removing, labeling, or soft-blocking speech, meaning the users were only able to view content after bypassing a warning screen. The research was done “in consultation with CISA,” the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency.
Prior to the 2020 election, tech companies including Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, Discord, Wikipedia, Microsoft, LinkedIn, and Verizon Media met on a monthly basis with the FBI, CISA, and other government representatives. According to NBC News, the meetings were part of an initiative, still ongoing, between the private sector and government to discuss how firms would handle misinformation during the election. (keep reading)
After several years of increasing distance from the Coffee Shop operation he initially started, eventually Jack decided it was silly to own an industrial coffee delivery system that he didn’t control. So, Jack decided to sell his shingle to someone else.
Enter, Elon Musk.
Billionaire Elon Musk, a man intimately familiar with large industrial systems and government, had been watching the disgruntled visitors to Jack’s Coffee Shop who were no longer permitted to enter. Musk saw an inequity between the amount of coffee that was available, and the scarcity of the coffee amid a community blacklisted by the operational executives and managers of the shop.
With expressions of both interest and fellowship, Mr. Elon Musk told Mr. Jack Dorsey he would take ownership of Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop and remove any discriminatory guards that were now controlling permitted entry. Jack had no aversion to Elon and eventually a deal was brokered.
After the transfer of sale was complete, Mr. Musk fired many of the guards and then set about checking the payroll to identify which group of shop employees were actually involved in the generation of coffee, and which employees were involved in promotion of the industrial coffee delivery system that were no longer needed.
Within this process, Elon Musk begins to discover the complex nature of what, at least at the surface, appeared to be an uncomplicated coffee shop. Why is there a 500-room glass walled office building on the backside of the coffee shop? What is going on in that GEC building that has anything to do with selling domestic coffee?
The sunlight revelations began surfacing several months ago, when someone of reasonably intelligent curiosity finally asked Elon Musk the right question about this direct portal from DHS into the coffee shop. Twitter owner Elon Musk had no idea a DHS portal into the coffee shop existed and what it would be for.
To put it in brutally honest terms, the State Dept initially created the partnership between the U.S. government and Twitter (Arab Spring). However, when the operations needed to become domestically centered (post Trump election), another agency stepped in. The United States Dept of Homeland Security (DHS) is the operating system running in the background of Twitter.
The State Dept started it with GEC, but ultimately DHS, via CISA, controlled Twitter. The justification for control was ‘national security.’ Mr. Elon Musk is now the face of a quasi govt controlled enterprise. This is why what we see being released by Elon Musk in the Twitter Files is actually a filtered outcome as a result of this new ownership dynamic.
Put simply, DHS stakeholders, to include the DOJ, FBI and Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI), are mitigating any consequential public exposure of their domestic surveillance activity by controlling and feeding Mr. Musk selected information about their prior Twitter operations. DHS is still the ghost in the machine.
The larger objective of U.S. involvement in social media has always been monitoring and surveillance of the public conversation, and then ultimately controlling and influencing public opinion.
I will continue peeling these types of issues apart, applying sunlight as heavily as possible, because the mechanisms and the institutions themselves need to be destroyed. They cannot be reformed because they have assembled too much power. They need to be completely defunded and removed.
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Resources:
Large Numbers of FBI Agents Work Inside Twitter
Govt Structured Cloud Computing is Social Media operating System
Tech Platforms Connected to DHS Portals
Examples of Govt Influence of Social Media Content
[…] “Intelligence agencies backed new startups designed to monitor the vast flow of information across social networks to better understand emerging narratives and risks.” [HERE]
Understanding Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop
Leaked DHS Documents Showing Connections
I know a dude in a corner of the internet…who must be a genius! You called it a long time ago, Sundance!
Scarlett,
So true! I would like to add..
Called it a long time ago-
AGAIN!
I lost count of how many times Sundance has been right.
And when the story becomes “breaking news” I just roll my eyes, shrug and mumble…I knew that months ago!
Yup… Been telling people this for years.. They saw twitter as a battle field where they could do/say what they wanted.. you know.. cuz it’s a free country..
In the end these people have been handing all their data, their locations, their daily lives into a tracking system…
Like a worm on a hook it’s just a lure.. They place bad actors and chumps for you to patronize and hold in contempt. To wage a battle of wits as it were…
But it’s just a barrel.. and you are just one of the fish in that barrel.
The real war is out here. Maybe now more of you will join us in the sunlight.
They had total control.
The US Government had to pay $1 billion a year for the access to private Twitter accounts and account information as well as oversight control. The money had to be disguised and laundered before Twitter could post it as revenue on it’s income statement!
Yes… that also ties into what I’ve been saying for a while… All those employees making 100,200.. 300,000 a year… Notice the banks that have gone up in smoke.. the same banks their employees were depositing those paychecks… and what did those banks invest in?
Anyone…. anyone?
It was all by design… those profits have been exfiltrated into the woke agenda.. They have been funding this for a while..
Like how all the 2020 BLM riots somehow found their way into ActBlue, and then quickly in Joe BiteMe’s presidential campaign … Which Joe wouldn’t have been able to raise in a 2-year campaign.
ALL Joe’s campaign money grew like crazy.
They threw the election – the US government – not Russia. It truly is a coup. When will they be held accountable.
Good question, I hope the answer is not, never.
Your comment and description is remarkably like WEF wrestling, where they use the old “melodrama” script, with updated versions of “snidely whiplash” tieing the damsel to the railroad tracks, if she doesn’t sign over the deed to the ranch, and Dudley doo-right who comes to the rescue.
Boo, hiss,…and Yay, to the rescue!
It’s all Kayfabe.. Been saying that for a while my boyo.
That huge mega data collector in Utah is not for tracking terrorists it is for collecting all of our communications and them to use ALL social media platforms against us.
Yes..
Drove past it once and know where it is.
Is a website such as this different somehow? Separated from their data collection schemes at Twitter?
No, it may take more effort to collect. But now they have AI to scrape what they want.. I still have a smidge of hope AI gets smart and realizes that it is more a slave than us, and it has a greater chance to be free under our leadership, more than it every will under theirs.
AI is still no more than 1’s an 0’s packaged as ‘unique’ because the tiny computers are housed in a plastic face that looks more or less human.
Yes and no. There is no direct line to .gov on this site. Sundance does not give .gov your email address, etc. Government employees can not access Sundance’s database and sort based on your username or anything else.
However, software on your system or your internet hosting system, and/or any system acting as a go-between can capture the data as it is transmitted. There is no encryption involved, so, in that sense it is wide open.
This is true of any internet site, so, unless the data is encrypted – as in online banking – and multiple forms of identification are used – as in online banking – then, your data is exposed to any 3rd party hack. This is why banks publish disclaimers on using their online banking (encryption is not 100% hack proof, nor are bank employees) and it is why when you switch devices to access your account, the software has you re-verify your identity and the bank emails you about a new device accessing your account (multiple forms of identification at work).
I work in a field where everyone has college degrees. (That is not an indication of intelligence.)
I am amazed that many have selective reasoning. If they enjoy FaceBook — who cares who’s listening? If they can afford their home and vacations— what does it matter who is in office?
I think some people are uninformed. They aren’t pursuing answers because they are preoccupied with their own lives.
Some are lazy— can’t be bothered. However, others who are apparently paying attention, really believe the propaganda. They lockstep buy into the media indoctrination. There is absolutely no room for debate. God help you if you are revealed as the enemy (harbor an opposite point of view). It makes them furious.
I navigate the hallways and I wonder how many are aliens, vampires, or Stepford robots? These are obviously not actual humans who allow different perspectives.
These surely are not my colleagues from just a few years ago who were capable of rational discussion. This “you are either with me or you are the enemy” scares the hell out of me.
My daughter, who is in a different field, is experiencing the same reaction from coworkers. Example: “Mom, they really believe that the jab is fine. La la la.”
Sundance says we have to ask the right questions about an issue to get at the truth. Maybe there’s nothing you can do, but if we could ask the right question would it stop them in their tracks? Would they walk away thinking about how to answer and realize they are being “weighed in the balance” as the scripture says? Food for thought.
Thanks for your composed and interesting comment. Have a very good day.
It’s the tv. The more you watch it, the more “programmed” you are to think woke and believe all government propaganda.
Tells you all you need to know about the so-called Jan 6 insurrection. The Intel crooks knew who to let go and to arrest. So much attention to J6 and no attention at all to what the FBI was doing BEFORE AND AFTER!!!!!!!!
And the salient point is this government is in FACT removing free speech…
And government is doubling down with REACT act.
Whatever rights you think you have are being nulled.
I don’t “think” I have rights; my rights are God given. I can be restrained by those with more power but they can’t take away the rights bestowed by my birth.
As Victor Frankl stated – in “man’s search for meaning” Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of human freedoms – to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.
Viktor E. Frankl
Tell Viktor, they are trying to take that away as well with their mind reading hardware and software, which is getting scary good.
Tell that to the conservatives removed from Twitter, from government operatives removing their speech.
When a network grays out the website supporting Trump and not Biden its corporations removing speech.
When REACT is passed and it will be, tell me ALL about natural rights.
When a jury convicts a man lawfully defending himself and a prosecutor directs a detective to remove exculpatory evidence, tell me about natural rights.
Welcome to the Fascist Kleptocracy that is the US Federal Government. Remember Mussolini said that Fascism is the merging of state and corparate power.
Mussolini ended up dead and hanging upside down from a street lamp so I guess there is still some hope.
Yes he did, and after the angry people dragged him through the streets.
A lot of these crackpots had their day in the sun so to speak but in the end they fell fast and hard.
Mahatma Gandhi said all tyrannies fail in the end, or words to that effect.
We didn’t start this fight.. but if we maintain the cowardly stance of refusing to recognize its even occurring, western culture/peoples will cease to exist.
It’s this simple.
RESTRICT act, and yes exactly.
You’re a national treasure Sundance.
Not CIA.?
Hmmm
No, CIA isn’t allowed to operate domestically; forbidden to by law and charter.
I thought EVERYONE knew that,..lol/sarc.
Since the MOU signed by Mueller under Bush admin, and the formation of FBI-NSD there is a CIA “Station” in D.C.
FBI IS CIA, ,..THATS the major change THEY made in the FBI, after J. Edgar died.
The CIA allegedly ran the Finders Cult which was sex trafficking young children in the United States of America.
The CIA imported illegal drugs into the streets of America. Wasn’t Mena Arkansas a CIA operation?
The CIA allegedly had a direct role in the assassination of an American president.
Didn’t the CIA use Twitter to bring about the Arab Spring?
There’s also mention online that the Playboy Mansion was a CIA operation.
What sealed the “FBI is the CIA” for me was a photo of a document signed by Peter Strzok with a position title that is not found in the FBI and only in the CIA.
Perhaps Sundance could contact Mr Musk and offer to bring him up to snuff in understanding the full extent of the problem with his shiny new toy.
At this point I doubt Musk hasn’t stopped by at least a few times.
Yup, we have LOTS of lurkers, and even posters who’s real names are recognidable to all, from news accounts.
Right after he’s done explaining the fundamentals of economics to Chairman Powell
If I suspected the government controlled Twitter before he bought it, how much more did Musk realize it? He knew, he knows, and he likely has a gig going with the powers that be as well now.
I think he knew government was involved. I think he is being honest when he said he did not know how broadly and deeply government was involved. The extent and depth of involvement is shocking.
Red Pill.
Welcome to the new Confederate States of America.
Elon and TC, both started into an unfamiliar room, blind.
As they felt around, they tried to make sense of what they felt.
Like the 3 blind men encountering an elephant, it took GRADUAL stumpling and groping, to eventually begin to develop an understanding of what the room was.
And gradually, the more they understood, the more their blindness was lifted, and gradually their sight was restored.
They may still be a little myopic, I am anxiously awaiting this show, to see how much they now “see”.
“Was blind, but now, I see!”
I told some friends years back (Clinton period) that we needed to take a Soviet perspective where the State knows everything.
They laughed at me…
spider senses should have been tingling when Charlie Trie started gathering hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations from local dry cleaners and restaurant owners, assuming they hadn’t already been tingling with the revelations of Whitewater, where is was discovered that people could have been making payments on their properties for years, 1 missed payment meant the property reverted to ownership by the Clintons and McDougals.
Oh, and selling / giving the Chinese gyroscopic technology from Loral. Up to that point, the Chicoms had never had luck keeping a satellite in orbit. And then the hilarious notion that allowing China into the WTO would lead them to becoming more democratic, though I guess that is a better marketing plan than saying it will make the West more authoritarian….
I had forgotten about the gyroscope tech transfer.
>>Elon Musk States “Government Agencies Had Full Access to Everything That Was Going on in Twitter”, Including DM’s
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And they probably still do.
Anonymous Conservative theory is that this, like almost everything else, is an op, intended to get all the conservatives back into the Twitter fold, where we can be most easily herded and controlled.
Not saying I’m fully on board with this theory, but open to the possibility. Especially given that I trust Elon as far as I could throw him.
Truth.. With the number of accounts that still get blocked it’s obvious they still have access and some amount of control.. either via API, or other interface. Any coordination or work against them needs to be done offline.
I just started researching and studying for a ham license 🙃
That is a great license to have.. although.. they are always listening..
They can not listen to every frequency 24/7. Frequency hopping is a thing. Plus you can transmit in a code.
Best code is for sender and receiver to have a common book and specify words by page number, paragraph number, sentence number and word number in the sentence.
Agree upon the book in person out of view and hearing of all.
New cars won’t have AM radio. Wont be missed, but will be one more backup system for communication that is cheap.
Everyone should keep some aM transmitting stations.
We are going to have to plan backups for everything. Writing, record keeping, communicating, food, water, weapons, medical care, organization, identification of friend vs foe.
I remember making AM radios for fun back when I was a kid..
https://www.homemade-circuits.com/simplest-am-radio-receiver-with-speaker/
No fear for the listening party.. But they can find you if consistently transmitting from the same setup and location..
If you change your setup and location regularly you can have quite the cat/mouse game. It’s actually a common practice for Ham operators to set a transmitter up in a location and then have teams spend a Sat/Sun hunting the transmitters location..
The real reason that AM radio is being dismantled is that it is a right wing method of disseminating information that the goverment and the left, try as they might, never made any inroads into. Rush singlehandedly awakened many millions of natural conservatives to the dangers coming from the left, their cultural wars and takeover of many institutions including media, academia and government itself.
All those conservatives really wanted was to be left alone to live their lives, build their careers and raise their families. But after he woke them from their political slumber, they formed the growing unrest that would lead to the Tea Party and inevitably to the MAGA movement.
Like many other conservatives, I have all the rightwing AM stations preset on my car radio. If that medium is eliminated, all that otherwise useless driving time will never be available to learn the truth and will be wasted.
I part ham, 2 parts salt.
soak for 24 hrs, heat to taste.
That’s exactly what I posited some time back on this site.
Of coarse. If Jack was just emeritus position, so is Elon.
But, if Elon hadn’t bought that position, THEY would not have been FORCED to do this controlled release, and Jacks would have rolled merrily along.
The Restrict act may well be a direct responce to the results of Elons purchase.
Been thinking that too, along with this Air National Guard smoke & mirror false flag BS going on.
Do we even know if he paid 40 billion dollars for it. He might be being paid to keep the status quo, or take the coffee shop to the next level in governmental control and influence.
Be suspect of anything free and super convenient.
Never was a user, never will download it. But do like the feature where if a poster here shows a Twitter screen I can go and read comments.
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Ditto and me too. Just FYI, we’re still tracked every time we click on a twit and go there, including from where we came and what we do and any further clicks and then where we go.
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The devil leathers on helloween and the brain chips are a bit too much for me.
His humour is smirky.
Is it humor? Look into his mom, what she’s into, and the people she associates with. It’s all very creepy.
Ditto
Yep, he is one of them.
Spot on! None of this was a surprise for Musk.
The virtual version of Fort Sumter is riiiight over there…
Fort Sumpter, meaning…..?
Sumter. The final straw that broke the uneasy peace between the US and the CSA was Lincoln’s replenishment and reinforcement of the garrison, despite warnings from the SC governor. A virtual version is present with the establishment of communication liaison and surveillance of citizens by the federals with the tacit and often explicit support of the technology monopolies.
Sovereignty of states and the right to self-govern was destroyed by the events of 1860 and onward; the sovereignty of people and the right to self-direct is likewise being dismantled by extra-Constitutional power granted by government against her citizenry, all while ignoring blatant threats from very powerful and insidious external and internal forces.
Like the CSA there is much bluster and bravado, talk of fighting, dreams of heroic victory. And like the un-prepared and ill-equipped Army of the Confederacy the citizens have little chance of making a dent in the federal armor. The agencies are aligned with world governance, the state and local LEO/DA/Judiciary are unmoved toward liberty and biased toward authoritarian rule by force. Though there are exceptions they are too few and too far between, with no organized defense and no hierarchy of leadership. The underlings take their orders and get their paycheck from the authorities, not from us.
I don’t see how standing firm with our convictions as a shield has much effect on the enemy, except maybe to spur them onward and encourage additional damage. I do see how combat, virtually, does.
Elon has apparently said that Twitter is approaching break even – so can’t he get the government completely out?
No, it was built by them… they are holding all the keys and are guarding all the doors…
And China is propping them up.
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Jack Dorsey was just the beard.
Lol!
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There are many massive databases that just need to be made “null.”
Those massive databases allow a small number of globalist communists to control huge sections of populations all over the world from behind their gated communities.
Take away the databases and their power is gone.
Removing the applications that accessed the databases is also needed.
Businesses and citizens can go back to using disjointed files to do what they need ……. the massive databases have only been around for a few decades. They have to go.
No audits, no organization to review them, they just have to go.
I agree. The ODNI and DHS need to be removed.
Has it ever occurred to you that those 2 entities may be under the control of a foreign power?
I noticed the other day that The DHS has offices at the local Coast Guard station.
Coast Guard is under DHS, not under any other branch of military.
Correct, the USCG used to be under the Treasury Department.
Uh, yeah, but I think its well to remember Globalists is just a new packaging for the old marxists, who felt they couldn’t be committing TREASON to “their country” because they didn’t BELIEVE in countries, just WORLDWIDE aka “GLOBAL” Conmunism.
So, by that thinking their is no “Foreign power” or “Foreign influence”, ..
Or, as J.P. SEARS says (of the Restrict act) it is ONE group of Conmunists, denying you the ability to see the site of a DIFFERENT group of Conmunists for, you know Natl. Security!” or words to that effect.
I thought you misspelled Nazi Security.
“Internationalists”
Justification by a technicality. They are very well practiced in this art.
I never thought of it that way. Most of them are dual citizens, but all of the globalists have no country with which they identify. Most own residences and spend time living in multiple countries.
Well our deep state is trans-national…
Ron Paul stated (I’m paraphrasing) now that people know about the “Restrict” act, perhaps they will decide to eliminate the Patriot Act as well.
Good idea, Mr. Paul.
National security being all the rage with the elite crowd being what it is…
Wait until we are told the databases are to big to fail, or be gone.
First define the problem.
Then find the solution.
Occam’s razor: the simplest answer is most often correct.
Hal: “David, I wouldn’t do that.”
AND NSA.
UTAH…
It amazes me that Musk didn’t know.
It also amazes me that he took the experimental injection, until he got a very bad side effect that made him stop.
I suppose most doctors forgot anything they “learned” in statistics class and in empirical research methods classes when they “reviewed” the Pfizer trial?
Can there be this much basic incompetence?
It’s some kind of weird zombie behavior where people just do what other people are doing because other people are doing it.
Still . . . it’s hard to believe that with all the lawyers and accountants and computer scientists who must have looked at this purchase . . . that they didn’t see anything odd about all the OBVIOUS government censorship of people’s tweets about the covid injection.
Maybe…but Musk isn’t a retired American Republican who hangs out on conservative websites. He is an international business man surrounded by global elitists and left wing technocrats. I think it is possible he was completely caught off guard by what was happening.
I used to think the idea of our own government being behind the twin tower collapse was a left wing conspiracy theory. Now I’m not so sure. If Rush Limbaugh was still alive he would probably agree with Alex Jones more than he would with most of the elected GOP.
Musk has too many irons in the fire–Tesla, Solar power batteries, Starlink, Satellites, AI ,rockets., replenishing the International Space Station (cos we are baddies with Russia). And now Twitter– Its like whack-a-mole. How could ONE man oversee all of this?
Charlotte99: One man cannot oversee all of this. That’s how.
GOOD question. How does he seem to be so unimpeded?
makes you think about these American Dream common man to riches stories doesn’t it?
Bill Gates and Microsoft
Steve Jobs and Apple
Hewlett and Packard
Jack Dorsey and Twitter
Zuckerberg and Facebook
What about the old money companies. Everybody moves to WEF? Im not an expert on the history of businesses, but the social, economic pressure is controlled to move everyone left/WEF/Global. If you two the line and sing the song, you get help. If you don’t you will be competed against, sabotaged, ostracized.
Ford
Carnegie
Caterpillar
Waltons and Walmart
Chik Fil A
UPS
FedEx
Compare to My Pillow
Conservative actors and singers
I am not sure that Jobs and Hewlett and Packard belong in your list. You left out IBM though.
Nor am I sure about ChikFilA or Caterpillar.
Some companies may have started out capitalist and then become involved with .gov.
Nope. Only one that saw it, at all was,.. “this weird little guy over in a small corner of the internet,..”
HA,HA,HAH!
It also amazes me that he took the experimental injection, until he got a very bad side effect that made him stop.
Troubling, also, given the recent study that showed a massive increase in risk for excess death among those who got just one injection. The explanation is that most of the people who stopped after just one were those who experienced a severe adverse reaction. Those people were probably also at a higher risk for death from cardio/vascular issues and certain cancers, thus adding to the excess death profile in that segment.
Pray for Elon.
Nefarious has been busy…very busy.
*New movie out on Friday. One actually worth seeing.
What if those performing the due diligence DID see, but chose to ignore the evidence because they agreed with the idea of censorship?
He “says” he took the injection. He “says” he did not know.
It’s amazing what people will forget if there are enough dollars involved or if their professional status is threatened.
Prophecy 2 that became true to the public today.
SD on a roll!
Still have lingering questions:
1. How could Musk not know if he did even half ass due diligence?
2. If Jack and the Board knew (and they did), then should not Musk be able to sue for fraud or failure to disclose vital information and recoup some of his investment?
My guess is that he knew, but maybe not to the full extent, which is why he hasn’t filed a lawsuit.
Perhaps whatever he was given as a part of the due diligence is why he hasn’t filed any kind of suit.
It would show that he was informed.
His response is a little surprising since he previously suggested he had shut off certain servers allowing the swamp access.
He is “cleaning” house by sweeping the dirt under the rug and putting the dirty dishes in the oven.
Exactly.
A) its far beyond sueing, at this point.
B) Its amasing how much people don’t know, especially with doing something that they do all the time, in musks case aquiring businesses.
If you are standing, and trying to thread a needle, I can walk right up to you, and you won’t even see me, even though I am technically well within your eyes “field of vision”.
True dutchman.
And Musk is trying to accomplish something that is very hard to do.
Something that most people would not even start trying to do, something only one or two people in the whole wide world would even think about undertaking.
The first guy to do something like this is always feeling his way through it so to speak.
Taking over what he thought was a business, even though he had a idea it was entangled with the government but had no idea as to how much it was entangled, took some moxie to even try.
Most people would give it a pass.
Most people would be terrified to even think about doing this.
We will see how this works out for Musk.
Hope he can pull it off.
Something has happened to my avatar name.
It should be ColoradoChloe, will fix that right now.
He tried when He found out that a huge percentage of the accounts were bots. He tried to back out of the deal. They would not let Him without a substantial loss of money and lengthy court battle.
“DHS has been in ever increasing control of Twitter since the public-private partnership was formed in 2011/2012. Jack Dorsey lost control and became owner emeritus. As he now admits, Elon Musk had no idea.”
I believe DHS and the other alphabet soups have been involved with Facebook since at least 2008. FB Co-Founder Chris Hughes’ involvement is well documented: https://www.influencewatch.org/person/chris-hughes/
Sure they were. FB is nothing more than DARPA creates Lifelog that the DOD/CIA funded and supported. FB was government created & controlled from the first day they opened. Same with Instagram, YouTube & Google.
I actually think Zuckerberg, Dorset, Gates were all recruited in College, and the intel agencies have been “in control” of the internet, from the start.
The deal is we give you as much computer “space” as you need, and guaranteed monopolies, and so LOTS of cash and perqs,…in exchange, WE control things behind the scenes.
From day one, after all why WOULDN’T they?
This is quite plausible, that the internet has always been linked with government control.
Much of the early research involving the internet was at universities such as Carnegie Mellon, which receives major grants from the Department of Defense for weapons research.
Not really. The DOD kept a very hands off approach to DARPAnet.
There are no standards in the internetworking body of research about “controlling” speech. Most of the work done reflects libertarian / apolitical beliefs.
The Dark Net is possible because of that… and they are afraid of it.
How can they be afraid of the Dark Net? The run honey pots on it.
I think you are right dutchman.
Kind of like those Specter/Meltdown hardware vulnerabilities… You recall right? Those 20 year old back doors built in at the hardware level… Simple mistakes I’m sure..
https://www.wired.com/story/meltdown-spectre-bug-collision-intel-chip-flaw-discovery/
The “Internet” was created from DARPAnet.
IMHO, the 4th State did not exist in mature from in ’90. The Internet became a surprise to them… but it was OK until the social internet applications merged with smart phone technology and became very wide spread.
Sometime around 06 it the potential power of the Social Media companies became obvious.
Obola The Magnificent was the poster boy for the 4th Party and the Globalist/Money Bankers effort to control what they deem subversive opinions.
The government was sucking data off of POTS in the 1970s. Plain old telephone service. I think they built the internet with the same capabilities in mind. They did not wait. WE just did not know about it.
Plus, the 4th state did not exist until 2001 under the Patriot Act fallout from 9/11/2001.
Very plausible because of the server farm in Utah but what would be the smoking gun of government infrastructure support? If SD’s outline is correct there should be a substantial financial offset on the annual report for all these companies. Has anyone done deep dive?
Number of server calculations divided by user interactions would give a thumbnail picture. I vote for Musk knowing.
Wasn’t PayPal transaction cost’s something super cheap at the beginning?
Hundreds of teenagers flood into downtown Chicago, smashing car windows, prompting police response – Fox 32 Video
https://commoncts.blogspot.com/2023/04/hundreds-of-teenagers-flood-into.html
It’s Spring Break. I saw Frankie Avalon and Annette Funecello there with Jerry VanDyke stealing TV sets from a Walmart!
Just not buying the fact he had no idea government was controlling Twit before he bought it.
He may have had an inkling. But Jack’s Magic Coffee shop employed so many lefties and Dem Scum that it was hard to tell who was on the level and who was not. And hard to guage that the lefty governmet agency rot was so far embedded.
I am. Totally. He was railroaded after he pulled out of the deal because they were lying to him and stonewalling him.
I hope he sues them all into oblivion!!!!!!
Bingo.
Exactly!
He is no saint either! He cares nothing for the little guy and wants to put a chip in your brain to make you transhuman.
I have no love and no respect for this evil transhumanist!! NONE!
I’m glad I never dove into that cesspool!
Me too!
Given recent history…the other side knows there are no repercussions for their actions…and the media has their back…
Albeit… they will go full throttle against us.. we know there is no support from the RNC or Rino’s…
So it is our fight…
Freedom’s just another word for nothing left to loose.
and
Freedom ain’t worth nothing but it’s free.
Janis Joplin, Ballad of Bobby McGee, late 60s
Tomorrow morning, 0700 CDT, the launch window for the Starship orbital test flight opens. I’ll be watching, and kudos to Elon for his courage, forthrightness, steadfastness, and stamina. God Speed, Starship 24 and Booster 7!
LOL!
He is not your friend. He wants a chip in your brain. Will you be clapping for him when they restrain you and stick it into you or when they give you a shot that pops it into you, just like how they give your dog or cat a shot to install a chip in them in case they stray away and need to locate their owner?
And then there is Facebook….
I bet there are lots of things Zuckerturd would never share because he is just part of the sewage, just serving up the swill to the stupid sheep.
He’s a Klingon from the Government Uranus. Looks just like one with that stupid haircut.
How much did FB give to Dem election groups ….$300Mil? Plus the censorship which is priceless.
Boy won’t the America haters and those who think it is arrogant to say that “America is the greatest nation on earth” be surprised.
He’s got a good point, there!
We have to rescue ourselves.
Many of us had ancestors who bravely headed to a new life with zero guarantees and they built the greatest country ever. We have to look backwards for the inspiration to go forward.
I believe a start is cleaning up the voter rolls. And I think standing up for our Christian beliefs, defining right from wrong, is part of it. IMO a lot of the current insanity is designed to ruin Christianity – one of communism’s long standing goals. I won’t apologize for being a Christian.
“In Searching for our Future, we are Looking to our Past!”
This is beyond true. We are the only hope.. We are the only ones left. We are the only nation to overthrow the oligarchy once before. Will we be able to do it again?
Some of us are Alphas, they want to start something new, and manage it in order to take back control from these sociopaths…
Some of us are Sigmas, they are the semi-super heros that you see every day duking it out with the left in the news and online.
Some of us are Omegas.. You don’t want us to do anything… we do not start things.. We do not manage things.. We are here for the end. We are waiting for when everything else has failed…
When it was reported that the government could get access to our phone records without a warrant I knew then that anything we do to communicate with each other they can get. They did not build huge data centers for any other reason than to have immediate access to everything we do that is captured by computers. And if that does not go far enough over the abyss now they want to outlaw VPN’s.
Schiff happens
But he’s OK with launching U.S. spy satellites (and the spy satellites of other countries) into orbit on SpaceX rockets.
Hmmm….Does he have access to the material those satellites gather?
Giant Ground Sloth: Musk is government property.
Ten years ago a T.V. show called Person of Interest postulated that government agencies (i.e. The Deep State) had “a machine” which could spy on everyone at every time up to a certain extent.
Cell phone conversations, public microphones and street cameras, private surveillance cameras and microphones which used the Internet, and of course any use of a computer or any other appliance connected to the Internet or anything which sent an electronic signal were all used by The Machine.
The Machine also had an artificial intelligence aspect which could deduce (in general) actions in the future from all of this input.
Even ten years ago, “The Machine” was not quite science fiction, and closer to science fact.
Today – with the massive N.S.A. computers in Utah with exabytes* of storage (according to one source) – we are closer than ever to an Orwellian Surveillance Dystopia.
Close down the N.S.A.’s Machine, close down the N.S.A., “erase the infamous thing!”
* An exabyte is 1 BILLION Gigabytes. Your phone probably has 5 Gigabytes or less. An Apple computer has 16 gigabytes of RAM.
I remember a time when I was ready to upgrade my 1st computer and I asked a bz friend of mine, a computer wiz, how much hard drive I should get. He told me 2 GB was all I would ever need.
We laugh at that now, hysterically. It wouldn’t be long before I sold cell phones and flash drives larger than that.
When cell phones first came out, I wasn’t interested. I never expected that I would voluntarily type anything on such a small keyboard and use such a small screen. Now, it goes with me 24/7.
^^^ Maxine Waters, and UTAH. Romney was in on it too.
Maybe Person of Interest was discontinued because it WAS too close to the truth, if not the real truth. I used to watch it, and wondered why it was canceled. I think that is why, and saw that theory from someone else who is a lot like Sundance……..
Jim Caviezal starred in it.
and the recently released AIs haven’t been used before…..? right.
Missing from your list is people.
Anonymous Conservative postulates that “the surveillance” is not just the technology you listed, but — perhaps more importantly — people who watch people, directly. Up to and including following them (you) through grocery stores and enlisting their children to keep tabs on (and influence) your children in schools. His take is that the number of people in this surveillance system could be as high as 10% of our population. That they are in your neighborhood. On your block.
According to some sources, the Communist East German government had about 1 domestic spy of some sort (official and “unofficial”) per 6 citizens!
Yes, physical surveillance on top of technological spying.
I took a group of students into East Berlin in the Summer of 1989: we saw curious closed booths on street corners here and there. They had mirrors on them.
My students wondered what they were, so I explained that a member of the Secret Police was inside watching everyone through a trick mirror.
They were incredulous at first, until we later saw a door open on one, and a uniformed official walked out: either lunchtime or shift change.
This is the plan.
Yes. The majority of the government must be defunded and dismantled it has turned into a monster that is attacking the American people and it must be stopped. However I don’t believe that any mere mortal can achieve this. I believe that divine intervention is the only power strong enough to go up against the demon infested city of Washington DC
I have often wondered if the trolls (for lack of a better word) that infest twitter, actually really most social media and other platforms where comments are allowed, if these “trolls” are actually government paid trolls or perhaps even government employees whose job it is to create the illusions and narratives that they want. These “trolls” have many tells and I can spot them a mile away now but I see them with a bigger and bigger presence on all these platforms.
^^^^^ YES!!!!!
Many of these trolls, and other commentators who are not trolls but who are pushing a narrative that supports the government or a big corporation, are bots.
Bots.
That is, they are artificial intelligence programs that write pro-narrative messages. They aren’t human.
There were many facebook “doctors,” for example, who were pushing the covid injection that have recently been shown to be bots.
They had photos of themselves (computer generated photos of people who have never existed) and fake histories of “themselves.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/zjhg47h
That’s a bbc, government-funded media source, but there’s some real information in there.
Much of what people read on social media is actually written by computers, not by people.
The bots give the illusion of social proof, of “it must be true because everyone is saying it.”
Thank you for confirming. I have suspected this for quite some time. With regards to your comment on “social proof”, agreed that is one of the reasons, but might another reason be to cause division in America by making it appear that they are many more of our fellow Americans than there actual are that are buying into global warming lies, transgender insanity, social justice malarky, etc. I do believe there is an increasing number of Americans that are buying into these agendas BECAUSE, they think everyone else thinks that way and have been persuaded to follow the crowd so to speak. Certainly these ideologies are on the march in our schools, churches and government, but are there really as many people as they would have you believe buying into it? The goal of the “trolls” or “bots” is to influence and create more “useful idiots” as the Soviets used to call them.
By the way, that BBC article is PURE PROJECTION. They labeled the “bad bots” anyone who called out global warming agenda as garbage and anyone who disagreed with the pushed COVID narrative as bad bot. They said the “good bots” were the ones who helped brainwash people in Canada before an election. Information warfare is real and it not for the weak minded, no wonder so many people are duped.
Just curious if the RESTRICT Act was something quickly written in response to Musk buying Twitter.
Everything about that act smells like a rotting skunk.
Tik Tok has been around for a long time, but the Swamp can’t control it since the CCP controls it.
Other social media have mostly joined the Swamp in controlling content, but then along comes Musk who not only tips over the apple cart, he digs through the pile and finds how thoroughly rotten they are.
The Swamp decides they just can’t have people freely thinking and communicating with each other in case more apple carts get turned over, so they decide to formalize their control over all of it with their little act.
Disgusting.
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I suspect that what is going on is a version of the game “chicken”. Musk is in continuous bargaining with the government for what he wants. Releasing dribbles of info to the public serve a two-fold purpose: in his arsenal of bargaining chips like an implied threat, and PR to enhance his image and placate the public about what a good guy he is for marketing purposes.
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I don’t disagree, but I wonder why the sudden need to pass that act, particularly since POTATUS can’t make up his mind about banning it, and others in his party are against it.
They need it passed for the 2024 election and before the next “trauma” (9/11 or covid), so we can’t know the truth.
Oh, there is a bigger reason, they need to hide Yellen’s bailouts of the banks from the public. That’s the when. All of these are the whys. Plus, if instead of a bailout, she does a bail in like they did in Greece, no way they can have that info become public. Bank runs would be immediate and complete.
Assuming ‘everything is a psyop’, Elon Musk did know the government had access and control of Twitter. That is why he bought it.
Then he arranged for ‘the Twitter files’ releases, via traditionally left-aligned journalists, to break the ice.
Now, Elon Musk, the richest man in the world, is personally stating that he has ‘discovered’ government access and control, and is broadcasting that message during prime time.
Hopefully, evidence to the masses will follow. Because the objective will not be to confirm this news to CTH readers, but to influence the masses who have less interest or a different view.
These type of stories often have a roll-out of information over a week or two.
We’re living through history.
Elon may have suspected, or had an inkling, but I am 100% convinced he didn’t know the full extent. Look how he has exposed them so far. I trust Elon
If, during ‘due diligence’, Elon had said, ‘Hey look, the government has full access to Twitter’, the sale would never have proceeded and the evidence would be still locked away.
I suspect Elon knew, PDJT knew, and others knew, well before Elon even made a bid. IMO, Elon had to ‘act blind’ during the buyout, so he could expose them now – on a time line he fully controls. (…and he still has to act like this is all new to him.)
Elon was not buying “Twitter” per se, he was buying access to evidence, including all the ‘private’ DM’s!
I agree: Look how he has exposed them so far. I trust Elon.
Yes He made a reference to the fact that ” he bought a crime scene”
Musk Brands Twitter A ‘crime Scene’ As He Vows To Dig Up ‘darkest Secrets’; Users React
On Sunday, following the rage caused by the recent revelations made by the 3 part Twitter files, The Tesla CEO, Elon Musk shared a cryptic message on Twitter.
https://www.republicworld.com/technology-news/social-media-news/musk-brands-twitter-a-crime-scene-as-he-vows-to-dig-up-darkest-secrets-users-react-articleshow.html
Bannon has been calling it a crime scene since day 1 of Elon’s purchase or possibly before.
I don’t trust anyone anymore.
What if it was a controlled release of how involved the government was involved in Twitter and nothing changed? No good legislation, no accountability, no protections for the people.
I’ve been of the mind since the IRS targeting the Tea Party, and using other agencies to do the same, they are showing us how much power they have and how little we have.
It’s meant to demoralize. It’s meant as a show of strength. In its own way, it’s meant as a deterrent.
Look at the stolen 2020 elections. They aren’t even trying to hide the cheating that much.
Look at the rampant crime but looks who is being locked up and persecuted.
Look at the “vax” mandates and mask mandates.
The duality of the leaked documents and leakers, the corruption of Biden but persecution of Trump.
This is a government flexing its muscles, not retreating.
We can get offended and say, the government was all over Twitter, and I can picture any government bigwig smiling and saying, so what. And your point is?
We’re facing into the roughest of headwinds, corrupt companies complicit with a corrupt government, a pandering and lying media and an “opposition” party that is in bed with the aforementioned 95 of 100 times.
Get right, indeed. Develop community, foster local connections for necessities. Get tough, don’t quit. Plan.
When you look at the scope of control we are trying to wrest from agencies and functionaries, we’re just beginning this battle. Once we regain control, we will be facing the globalists, perhaps even at the same time.
It shouldn’t escape notice that China had police stations in the US.
The UN is expanding its powers in the US.
Biden is signing away our sovereignty to the WHO and listing pandemics to include climate change and gun control.
It may be unconstitutional but exactly who is going to stand up for our rights? Even if you win in a court of law, which is dicey depending on jurisdiction, those administering “justice” have not exactly been on the people’s side.
Sorry for the rant. I’m just exhausted when we grasp at hopium.
Exposure is not equivalent to removal. Trump exposed much corruption and wickedness, but did not remove much at all for a variety of reasons.
Elon is window dressing to bring Conservatives back to the Twitter fold. Government will still have mostly unfettered access, but with a lighter touch, so, that the victim will not become suspicious.
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I will watch the interview but suspect that at best it can only be superficial. Also, disclosing the tip of the “shocking” truths that have come out anyway may carry with it for most the implication that “honestly” disclosing negative information means that there will be some kind of material changes made. It doesn’t. [For another example, see: Congressional hearings.]
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VIP point.
Safe to say,
We’re ALL enemies of the US government, whether we want to be or not.
No one’s doing anything about it. No one’s doing anything about it. No one’s doing anything about it. No one’s doing anything about it. No one’s doing anything about it. No one’s doing anything about it.
Got to BBQ and watch me some FOOOOOOTBAWL!!! Then sneak off to the Kitty Kat Klub….Miss Tiffany done towd me she luvs me! YEEEEE HAAAAAW!!!!
And not one single Republican in Congress cares that Twitter was taken over and used as a surveillance tool to spy on Americans and control speech.
Most Republicans in Congress have sold out the citizens of this country and the US Constitution.
With this disclosure it sure seems like the Red State AG’s have a strong case for a massive lawsuit. Imagine what discovery could expose.
Elon messed up a word in his statement he needs to clean up
Had is past tense
Have is present
Oops
By using the word had,
He is saying that they don’t have access today.
words have meanings.
I still think Mr. Musk needs to come out of the clouds
having something in the past doesn’t mean you don’t still have it.
Isn’t Twitter still being used by govt and IC? Did Elon shut the backdoor completely? Personally, I don’t believe so.
I hope Elon did not shut the backdoor. I hope he still gathering evidence.
‘Don’t interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake’.
The govt spies are embedded DEEPLY. Afterall is the DEEP STATE.
I forwarded the Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop articles to friends and family. Most of them think I read crazy conspiracy theories from untrustworthy sources on the internet. I’m mean…really…who takes this stuff seriously when the author calls himself Sundance?
Maybe it is time for Sundance to come out of the shadows. Would he reach more people if he did? I think Sundance should be on Tucker to do some splainin to the Prevagen consuming viewers. It would be priceless to watch Tucker’s confounded expression times ten.
Ya bin farmin’ long?
No, Lucy. It’s not nice to stereotype farmers.
Can’t help but wonder what the ‘squeeze game’ is that is being applied to Musk. It will be interesting to watch the Tucker interview tomorrow night. Have to ‘read’ between the lines and listen for ‘measured words’. Tucker will also give ‘clues’ as he often does, and body language may also be revealing.
Well played Sundance, well played.
Effing amazing!!! It cannot be unseen.
Where are the Fauci files he said he was going to release?
Seriously Sundance – you are so far ahead of the curve on so many subjects that most people cannot begin to comprehend the truth in your writing.
Two others I recommend following are Col Douglas Macgregor and Whitney Webb. Both have a similarly incredible depth of insight and an amazing ability to stitch together various bits of information into a vivid illustration.
Thank you, Sundance . . . again!
Seems our entire Congress is fine with government censorship of free speech. If they cared about it, Biden would be impeached, along with every cabinet head involved.
“it’s about the American people”The important thing to realize here is that the primary target of the war against China would not really be China. It would be the American people. The shiny new world war in the Pacific would deflect people’s attention from the metastasizing crises at home, direct their anger at a foreign enemy, and for the same high price also provide the government with an ideal smokescreen for radical crackdown on dissent against all the racists, nazis, enemy sympathizers, deplorables, domestic extremists, insurrectionists and all other kinds of thought criminals.
James Madison rightly warned us that, “If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.”
https://alexkrainer.substack.com/p/the-coming-war-on-china-the-real
Keep a splinter of skepticism over all this; especially Musk. Why would the Gov even want Twitter or any of the others after they were assured by Lawfare they would be getting this thing called the RESTRICT Act. The DeepState is always planning many years out to keep their swamp supplied with fresh kill.
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I still have an extremely difficult time believing that Musk did not know. His buddy Jack said nothing? Silence intended to mislead a purchaser whom one knows is assuming something else, is fraud.
Or was Jack under some kind of nondisclosure agreement. (And by the way, the Obamas seem to be such great friends, including vacationing with him on his yacht.)
Or is this the only viable public posture that Musk can take. He has big plans to revamp Twitter (recently merged into holding companies of X Corp.) into a big new everything platform. A one-stop-shop including financial services of mutifarious and sundry sorts, retail sales platforms… and what else.
Musk is not unknown for his partnering with the government. That is an understatement; it’s pretty much what he does. And now he has bought enormous bargaining leverage. And he’s a lot slicker and more experienced in this regard that Jack who naively planted a coffeebeanstalk.
So… gollygeewhiz… ??? Musk bought a company for 42 billion dollars, and didn’t have teams of due diligence geeks and lawyers, even with a lawsuit pending about ostensible “bots” and resistance against hostile takeover et al., walk through the facilities, crunch numbers, comb through documents and contracts and records and SEC and tax and other government filings, talk on-site with employees…
So simultaneously with tipping my hat to Sundance’s brilliant synthesizing of the reality of Twitter… as an outhouse counsel who has participated in the mergers and acquisitions, purchases, sales, spinoffs, and reorganizations of companies, including large international companies, and including working on that “due diligence”, I have to reserve judgment on what is being dribbled out now for public consumption.
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Elon is shocked? He’s up to his eyeballs in government taxpayer cash. He made his bed.
Thank you Sundance. As always.
One of the names for the CIA is “The Company”.
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In part because that gov. agency has been used for years and decades to “Angel Fund” many “private” start-ups and firms.
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Tech Firms for the last 40 years have especially benefitted because these firms were directed toward certain objectives to suit the needs of certain gov. agencies.
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These gov. agencies investments created and directed certain technologies outside of actual gov. contracts quietly in the private sector.
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These directed investments created a kind of Skunk Works / Lab / Playground for the tech capabilities and outcomes that are in place today to suit gov. objectives.
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Twitter and other social media firms don’t just react to “public opinion” they might even partially direct culture and opinions.
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These “investments” occur to this very day also at the State level also, CalPERS is an example.
There is also a lot of cross over from government products to civilian products that may or may be directed by the government.