At approximately 8:55pm on February 3rd a major train derailment happened near the border between Ohio and Pennsylvania. In an Ohio town called East Palestine, a Norfolk Southern train pulling 150 cars derailed. 20 of those cars were carrying hazardous materials, including a liquified substance called “Vinyl Chloride.”
A massive explosion and fire resulted from the derailment and the nature of the cargo. In an effort to mitigate the problem, responding emergency authorities dug a trench and allowed the chemicals to burn off into the atmosphere. However, vinyl chloride turns into hydrochloric acid when it mixes with water vapor. The resulting chemical toxins can travel with wind, forming toxic clouds.
Several people in the downwind region from the initial explosion have reported health issues. Additionally, animals and fish have been reported to have been killed in the zone where the chemical cloud traveled.
There is now increasing concern about longer term impacts from the release of the chemicals including vinyl chloride.
Norfolk Southern and the EPA released the full list of chemicals that were being transported, they include:
♦Vinyl chloride: a colorless gas that is used to make polyvinyl chloride (PVC) plastics and is highly flammable and decomposes to make toxic fumes. According to the National Library of Medicine, it is also carcinogenic and can cause other health issues.
♦Butyl acrylate: a clear liquid that is used for making paints, sealants and adhesives. It is flammable and can cause skin, eye and respiratory irritation.
♦Ethylhexyl acrylate: a colorless liquid used to make paints and plastics. It can cause skin and respiratory irritation and, under moderate heat, can produce hazardous vapor.
♦Ethylene glycol monobutyl: a colorless liquid used as a solvent for paint and inks, as well as some dry-cleaning solutions. It is classed as acutely toxic, able to cause serious or permanent injury, and highly flammable. Vapors can irritate the eyes and nose, and ingestion can cause headaches and vomiting. (source)
According to NewsWeek, “Kirk Kollar of the Ohio EPA said the levels of toxic chemicals observed in nearby waterways “were immediately toxic to fish,” and that spilt material had leaked into Sulphur Run. Lesley Run, Little Beaver Creek and the Ohio River were being monitored.”
The U.S. EPA said on Friday that Norfolk Southern contractors had installed a dam and a water bypass at Sulphur Run to prevent further contamination and had also stopped the remaining spilled chemicals entering the stream. The EPA is working with the Ohio EPA to investigate soil contamination at the derailment site.” (more)
(SOURCE – HHS, Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry)
The video embeds in the tweets below are additionally concerning and informative:
Probably the best video about what happened in Pennsylvania/Ohio and it’s pretty mind blowing. https://t.co/VbG0kzplRs
— Erin Elizabeth Health Nut News 🙌 (@unhealthytruth) February 13, 2023
Now majority of the chemicals were burned but some of them were also buried. The sketchy party? The fixed railroad was built overtop the buried spillage? Now why would they do that and so quickly? Air tests were given but no ground/water tests?
Smells like coverup… pic.twitter.com/OR4091xFEW
— Woke Societies (@wokesocieties) February 13, 2023
The White House and Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg have been silent on the issue.
People in the affected communities, which are now quite diverse due to the wind travel of the chemicals, are rightly concerned and apparently not getting enough information from anyone about the potential for longer term health issues.
This is a practice “accident” – the next “accident” will be in a deep red area.
The gov’t will be oh so helpful and ready to put every one affected on buses and trains to FEMA camps. Camps that just happen to be open, ready, and staffed.
At the FEMA camps everyone will be required to get fully “vaxxed” over and over and over.
All camp residents will have to carry a “card” that has their compliance record and score.
Card must be presented and a minimum score required to receive daily rations of food, water, toilet access, etc.
Due to budget constraints each resident may use the one computer to email loved ones (or anyone outside the camp) only once a month. All emails must follow the prescribed template.
Meanwhile, back home, the Federal Dept. of HUD will examine the homes of the camp residents to secure valuables such as firearms, ammo, those containers of 25-year shelf life emergency food, generators, etc. Such items will be kept in “secure trust” in a government warehouse.
Reglar….I’ve noticed that your comments keep getting held up in moderation. I discovered it’s because of the “apostrophe” in your username. Our software reads it as a stop sign and will not further process. It’s worked for 6 other Treepers….I’m sure it will work for you.
Of course, you’ll still undergo one more moderation, because you’ll be seen as a new commenter. But….after that, you’ll be forever be FREE~ 😀
I will not get on the cattle car.
Retired Magistrate here: This is a deep red area as far as electing President Trump.
Deep red and mostly rural. Small old redbrick towns devastated by manufacturing moving to China. Mostly rural in PA too. The further south this cloud goes you have Pittsburgh.
Shawnee, Ohio is southwest of this mushroom cloud. It is a travesty for SW PA and SE Ohio and NW West Virginia.
Morgantown WV and Cincinnati to be effected by this?
In the water coming your way
Tap water tasted awful last night in New England.
The incompetence of this administration is mind-boggling on so many levels. One can’t help but wonder if their plan is to do these things intentionally while trying to make people believe it’s just stupidity and incompetence. How much longer must we suffer these fools?
Wonder no more. There is ZERO reason to believe these are accidents.
Exactly! Did anyone check the electoral map to see what colour it is?
How long do we suffer these fools? As long as Wall Street says so.
This polluted and toxic water needs dumped in The Hamptons.
Two more derailments today. One in Houston and one in SC
So, it’s a plan ?
Seems like it along with the food processor and distribution fires. Year of the ecoterrorists.
Have to wonder how many of these illegal border crossers are trained at train derailments, electrical grid attacks, food supply depot fires and drinking water sabotage?
I was about to suggest, train derailments, the next eugenicist tool after all recent food processing massacres.
Or the year of the domestic (Democrat) terrorists. Period. Full stop.
But the FBI is busy finding all those faithful Catholics who still prefer a Latin Mass … and all those white “domestic terrorists” … don’t bother them with eco-terrorists.
I don’t think it is a plan so much as crumbling infrastructure that they aren’t going to fix because – climate change.
No its an accident like those spy balloons. Where do you teach gender studies?
China is closing in fast. Their bio weapon is working on the coasts. it is not working where people are. less addicted to TV. Trying to hurry up the destruction of the USA before we react. JMO I can’t prove anything.
Pattern recognition.
Which is a major component of I.Q. I’d guess yours is pretty healthy.
Ret. Lt. Col. Shaffer said on Newsmax last night that Chy-na has 300 satellites in the sky, 100 of those are known to be of the offensive type.
Practice makes perfect
A truck broadsided the one in Texas and derailed some cars.
From the view I saw (apparently from news helicopter) it had to be intentional or medical issue.
The devastation I saw could not be explained by a truck accident. Besides a train weighing about 2,000 tons traveling at 40mph wouldwreck a truck in the same fashion as you crushing an ant.
I say it was deliberate terrorism.
l heard lt was a semi tractor trailer hauling a mobile home crossing where there were no arms and lights
I read that the truck driver died. Don’t know if it was before the collision or after.
In reading through some tweets, or twats, or whatever they are, I’ve seen a number of them faulting President Trump. From a New York Times article on 10//16/2020: “In the bid to lock in new rules before Jan. 20 [2021], Mr. Trump’s team is limiting or sidestepping requirements for public comment on some of the changes and swatting aside critics who say the administration has failed to carry out sufficiently rigorous analysis.
Some cases, like a new rule to allow railroads to move highly flammable liquefied natural gas on freight trains, have led to warnings of public safety threats.”
Don’t shoot the messenger. Just pointing out where I think this is headed. Call it one of those six ways to Sunday, an early effort to “derail” President Trump’s campaign.
One derailment could be considered a freak or careless accident. Three is pushing the boundary.
Who banned the pipeline that would have carried inflammable liquids as his first action as president?
Don’t ask me. Ask the lefties who are faulting our President. Our real President.
Bs
Of course it is. This is what lefties are posting on Twitter.
They have always carried nasty flammable chemicals. For quite some time the tank cars have been double walled for safety.
That Stuff on the Ohio train wasn’t natural gas.
And now a third. In TN.
Just posted it below.
Mars attack!
The Houston one is near me, a semi pulled into tracks that service the warehouse he loaded up at. No crossing lights or arms, just didn’t look. 60mph train killed the driver, no major problems other than 15 rail cars (dry van) off the tracks and piled up.
Retired Magistrate here: Looking at the houses in this particular part of East Palestine, Ohio it looks to be a blue collar working class neighborhood. The houses appear to have been built around the turn of the century up to about 1920. Houses built in this era are not insulated very well and unless the windows have been replaced, the houses tend to be very drafty.
So, as a result, whatever is in the air, is probably in the house, the furniture, clothes, carpets, toys, etc. It is anybody’s guess how long this poison will stay in the above mentioned articles.
If this were a white collar, high dollar neighborhood you would be hearing a lot more about it. Right now the government is just trying to gloss over this environmental disaster. One of the reporters who was present during Gov. DeWine’s press conference at the disaster site was arrested for disorderly conduct for what appeared to be just doing his job.
This is the disaster, not the flying objects which our government (other than the Chinese spy balloon) probably put in the air so they can look competent and shoot them down.
“The Forgotten Men and Women” are suffering bigly…..
The constant attacks on working citizens, has got to stop, but it won’t. It is the punishment for voting for that Tough Guy from Queens.
As always, you bring up valid points. I always appreciate reading your posts!
I pray we do not, in 30 years, hear of the class action lawsuits or federal settlements about vinyl chloride et al, settlements for the residents–that will mean they were damaged in a huge manner.
It would be good though, for the victims to be compensated, don’t get me wrong.
On a side note….Norfolk Southern (NSC) ? and who in Congress or elsewhere, sold shares? Closed today at $239 and change, peaked in last month, at about $255 per share.
Bill Gates or Buffet, Biden, Pelosi, Schumer and whoever else?
I pray for those affected meaning the residents especially those who can ill afford the consequences in these trying times..
“I pray we do not, in 30 years, hear of the class action lawsuits or federal settlements about vinyl chloride et al, settlements for the residents–that will mean they were damaged in a huge manner.”
I don’t think it will take anywhere close to 30 years…the number of firefighters who died on 9/11 was 343 but close to 10X that amount have died since, from cancers caused by the chemicals at Ground Zero, where they spent weeks looking for the remains of their fallen comrades.
A young firefighter from my husband’s department, here on the West Coast, volunteered to go to NY, along with thousands of others from around the country. He was diagnosed with Stage IV malignant melanoma in 2016 and died, at age 42, in 2019, leaving a wife and two young sons. Did he get exposed to something in 2001 that finally exploded throughout his body 15 years later? Probably no way to know for sure but it is definitely a possibility!
Every First Responder in the Ohio Valley needs to get checked right now, IMHO, for any unusual levels of chemical exposure and they will need to keep getting checked every six months for a very long time, I am afraid…
Yeah, the people are in the offices, making the money, don’t give a da*n about the people out on the line getting exposed to the toxins! Take care of yourself..no one else will!
(And isn’t most of Warren Buffett’s money in the railroads? I’m sure he’s all over this situation to make sure everyone is getting taken care of – NOT!!)
It won’t take thirty years. And my understanding is that BlackRock/Vanguard/JP Morgan have a form of ownership in the railroad. (Read that on this site, but didn’t keep the cite…)
Financials for 4th Quarter 2022
http://www.nscorp.com/content/dam/QuarterlyEventFiles/4q-2022/4q2022_financial_data.pdf
Investors –
http://www.nscorp.com/content/nscorp/en/investor-relations/stock-information/ownership-top-holders.html
Per Tucker tonight, this area went 71% for Trump in 2020.
Of course…crying.
Yes, I agree. Apologogize for not reading your comment before I posted my own take on this.
Mayor Pete is not concerned as these are not racist railroads.
Au contraire … most railroads run thru the POOR part of town … hence the statement … “the other side of the tracks”. Ohhhhhhh mommmmmaaaa … “underserved” communities live near the tracks. Communities ovvvvv cullller live next to the RR tracks. Trains place a disproportionate burden on BIPOC peoples. It’s time for reparations!!
Thank you Sundance.
The following was posted as a reply upthread, but since it is the best compilation of information I have seen on this disaster, I am going to post it again.
Note that residents are saying they cannot find environmental testing firms that are not already partners with or under contract from the EPA and/or Norfolk Southern – and when they do find one, it is $20k to $50k to hire the firm.
So aside from temporary shelter and at least some long term relocation assistance, it seems like the critical need is to crowdsource the fees for a good third party environmental testing firm to go in right now to take air, water, and soil samples and to continue to do so over time.
This is being hushed up. Why? It looks bad for the regime. The railroad could be on the hook for untold millions or who knows, maybe billions if its actions ruined 40,000 or more acres of farmland permanently, plus asbestos level damages to people and livestock. Only the deplorables and expendables are really badly affected.
That mushroom cloud should have been the above the fold picture on every newspaper in the US this morning.
Everyone in the Mid-Atlantic and all down the Ohio River should be on the horn to their local state and county officials and their Congresscritters to demand protective action and answers.
Send in Erin Brockovich, she can extract large payouts.
She actually tweeted about this. That puts her ahead of JD Vance, who has been asleep at the wheel. He wasn’t heard from until this afternoon or evening.
Neither has Jim Jordan
Had this happened under President Trumps watch, the mushroom picture would be everywhere.
Elaine Chao wouldn’t have gotten the blame. Even though she was the transportation secretary under President Trump, she is uniparty.
She already was here talking to residents.
She meaning Erin Brockovich
Elaine is CCP.
So is Mr. Elaine.
Sounds like you assume the railroad is at fault for the derailment. Did you rule out sabotage? On what basis? Tucker Carlson reported tonight that tere was 40 derailments in Washington State last year and many others thruout the US. Highly unlikely all these are caused be neglrct.
We do not know.
Even if it was sabotage, the railroad could be liable for failure to take adequate measures to protect against sabotage. Plus, it seems like the railroad might have pushed for the “controlled burn” as a way to save time and money and get the railway unclogged. If it did push like that, or provided bad expert information, it could be liable for that too, possibly.
This is going to be a complex case involving a whole web of federal and local laws, hundreds of depositions, years of motions and filings.
Right now, we just need to light a fire under the idiots so they don’t ignore or compound the damage they’ve already done.
If it’s sabotage, I don’t know what that means in terms of plan of discovery and attack. I suppose the AG of Ohio would be the most likely responsible authority. It isn’t like anyone can count on the FBI, God help us.
Plus Norfolk Southern already excavated and buried all evidence along with the chemical residues they did not clean up. Seems there was no sabotage other than by the company, either that or they hid evidence that would have found them not guilty, which is preposterous.
“Tucker Carlson reported tonight that tere was 40 derailments in Washington State last year and many others thruout the US.”
His segment mentioned the word “shunts” several times, a means of derailment, I suppose.
A quick duck search pulled up a couple results:
Bellingham, Washington, woman sentenced to prison for ‘shunt’ attack on …
Dec 17, 2021Decoupling has the potential to cause a derailment—in this case—of tanker cars of flammable gas in a residential area. In asking for a 27-month sentence, prosecutors wrote to the court about the danger of shunts, including the potential to cause derailments, which can be deadly and cause extensive environmental damage.
Bellingham, Washington woman convicted of ‘shunt’ attack on BNSF Railroad
Sep 9, 2021The shunts triggered an automatic braking system on a train that was transporting hazardous and combustible material. The emergency braking then caused a portion of the train to decouple from the engine. Decoupling has the potential to cause a derailment—in this case—of tanker cars of flammable gas in a residential area.
Group using shunts in an attempt to disrupt, derail trains in state of …
Shunts were placed in three locations in Whatcom and Skagit counties on Oct. 11, which set off a braking system on a train that was pulling hazardous materials. The emergency braking caused a section of the train to separate from the locomotive, which could have led to a derailment.
The activists sabotaging railways in solidarity with Indigenous people …
Jul 29, 2021A shunt is a wire stretched between the tracks that mimics the electrical signal of a train, causing oncoming trains to engage their emergency brakes. Shunts can cause derailments, which is…
… and click the first line in the 2 paragraphs of previous comment, there are links underneath them, hover over them and you’ll see
There are reports/pics on Twitter showing sparks coming from the wheels of one car. Apparently it travelled 20 miles like that before it derailed
yes, I’ve read it was a failed axle bearing that was actually on fire
If that photo of the mushroom cloud was posted on the front pages of the “news”, people would think we are in the beginning stages of ww3. Wouldn’t want anyone to think that now.
And it joins the Mississippi River in Cairo, Illinois. This needs to be followed closely because who or what are they trying to kill? This seems quite war like, especially if it was done on purpose or if they refuse to check into its repercussions to the people, the animals and the land and water of the country! Pray…
There are two more now, one in South Carolina and another one in Texas. This gets these events from the category of an accident to intentional sabotage. Even the derailment mode of the first one was questioned by someone on Twitter well-versed in transporting these harmful chemicals. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/02/developing-emergency-officials-responding-two-train-derailments-one-south-carolina-another-texas-video/
Wait’ll you see what happens next week.
Word on gab is that vanguard, Black rock and the usual suspects are owners in that particular railroad
This video is from the area. Even FEMA didn’t show up.
Also, read DC Draino’s twitter feed. The whole area is poisoned, air, water, etc. He claims toxic chemicals are showing up in the water in Cinncinati, 240 miles away. This thing is unbelievable. God help the people affected, the government does not intend to.
The Ohio River Is Now Contaminated with Vinyl Chloride
https://welovetrump.com/2023/02/13/the-ohio-river-is-now-contaminated-with-vinyl-chloride/
The Ohio River basin is mostly farms. Here’s another way for our food sources to be poisoned.
The poor people in all of Ohio and those southeast (as the wind blows this toxic cloud around) need our fervent prayers.
Just read on another site that the lower Mississippi River will be affected.
Yep…Cairo, Illinois — where the Ohio meets and Mississippi. Think about where this has the potential to go…all the way to the Gulf.
Should say — “where the Ohio meets the Mississippi.”
A Chinese man on TikTok doing the work to expose environmental contamination or doing the work of the CCP?
Stolen elections have consequences.
Never Forget Patriots:
JUDASpence certified the stolen 2020 election for Biden.
The bushCARTEL voted for Hillary, Biden and now supports DeSantis.
Real votes and fake votes matter.
Or fake ballots!
Any other Treepers that are chemical workers? I checked out the SDS (safety data sheet) for poly vinyl. Not the worst one I worked with. But its pretty nasty. Causes frostbite on skin contact. Its heaver than air. React violently with oxidants. Its flammable. Combustion products Carbon monoxide, Phosgene, Hydrogen chloride.
Hydrogen Chloride + Water vapor in air equals Hydrochloric Acid which is the worst. Attacks everything except glass.
It’s not poly vinyl(PVC), it’s VCM(vinyl chloride monomer). EPA exposure limit is 1 ppm, in other words….if you can smell it then you are hosed, done, possibly dead like the floating fish. Have an MSDS or two for review for VCM.
https://www.shintech.com/UserFiles/files/Safety-Data-Vinyl-Chloride-Monomer.pdf
https://www.airgas.com/msds/001067.pdf
A New Jersey “fact sheet”
https://nj.gov/health/eoh/rtkweb/documents/fs/2001.pdf
Toxicological Report(pdf download)
https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/6948/cdc_6948_DS1.pdf
What has happened is a disaster for that town, the state, and many folks on waterways downstream from there.
The list of chemicals that leaked out in East Palestine are each dangerous in their own way.
Haven’t heard anyone mention what those dangerous chemicals — mixed together — will become.
– Three cars of Diethylene Glycol
– One car of Polypropyl Gylcol
– One car of Propylene Glycol
– Two cars of Polyethylene
– Two cars of Polyvinyl
– Five cars of Petroleum
God Bless Tucker Carlson for using this … happy gay picture … superimposed over the burning train wreck. Speaking of train wrecks …
Not that there’s anything wrong with this pic … *giggle*
Is this the same hazardous materials release incident, where the journalist was arrested by jackboots for not “being quiet” while dewine was doing a live broadcast?
My understanding is that this journalist was on schedule to also broadcast live and police arrested this person because he was “interferring” with governor dewine. I don’t know much more details.
vinyl chloride is indeed a very dangerous vapor when released. it WILL desolve into water reservoirs and WILL cause fish kills. In sufficient concentrations, which is clearly the case here, a “cloud” can have significant health impacts to anyone breathing the shit, or eating or drinking food and water that has been contaminated.
the right course of action is to evacuate everyone in the immediate area, predict the areas likely to get impacted, and trigger a local emergency order. Why this has not happened it unacceptable.
arresting a journalist is definitely not the way to govern.
God Bless America
That is the events and reporter.
Now imagine if Trump was President…
Yes, arrested by Ohio National Guard.
With all of the attacks on our food supply over the past year, I’m not ruling out the possibility of sabotage. Especially not when Blackrock is involved, and Netflix put out some predictive programming last year about a toxic trainwreck in Ohio.
The Netflix video was filmed in East Palestine, OH and many of the residents were extras in the film.
That film was a practice run for this false flag event. This was not an accident. It was planned, practiced and then executed.
Agree 100%. We’ve seen the deep state do this too often – game out an event as a dry run and then implement it later. Covid 19 anyone?
Snort. I forget who said “you betcha.”
It is a Minnesota staple, one used with a bit of a Scandinavian accent.
Maybe Sarah Palin?
Actually, Tom Rush, speaking of his native New Hamp-shuh:
A news blurb on WLS reported that at this train derailment in Ohio, either one substance, degraded into or actually was Phosgene, a chemical weapon.
Way back in a class I took, it was also reported that in house fires, the upholstered furniture and carpets generate phosgene gases….
Scary times…
There are lots of companies that make neutralizers for chem spills and other hazardous wastes. Amphomag Acid Neutralizer at Thomas Scientific is one. This is a huge spill and can spread quickly but I don’t see any news on how the Hazmat boys are actually handling this.
The hazmat boys are not handling it- hence we are here, now…
I believe that the “fire officials” decided the best way to deal with the spill of vinyl chloride was to set the spill on fire.
If we had real reporters in the MSM, this would be worldwide news.
Fire Officials?
Have any proof of that?
Check the local papers for Steubenville, Pittsburgh, and/or the Y-town Vindicator. This happened last Fri, and initially they were more upset at the mayor for using his emergency powers on Saturday.
The dumping and burning of the toxic chemicals was indeed ordered, by EPA iirc. It may have been fire officials, i no longer recall
To be clear, a WEEK ago last Friday. It happened on Feb 3 and only made national news today.
We are not hearing news about any of this. Then there is the shooting down of objects that no one knows anything about.
Me thinks they are goading us into Marshall law.
Martial Law.
I live about 200 yards from a Norfolk Southern rail line in North East Ohio. What I’m about to say is anecdotal/strictly non scientific. Since the pandemic I’ve noticed the rail traffic has gotten to be almost non existent compared to pre pandemic traffic. It’s as if at times a train doesn’t even go by daily. The other day I saw a train go by and it had maybe 10 cars on it.
Im thinking Norfolk Southern rail company prior to this derailment was just about insolvent. It most certainly is now.
I was also going to apply to work for this rail company in their Cleveland area facility but you need to be fully vaccinated or they won’t hire you.
About a half mile or so to the north of the Norfolk Southern rail line in my town are two CSX rail lines. Their traffic also appears to me to be down but recently it seems to have picked up in the last 3 months. I have noticed that the CSX trains are super long now. They have 2 engines at the front and in the middle section of the train they have a third engine running. Pre pandemic you almost never saw this.
Im thinking the rail lines can’t get people to work. Hell the subway restaurant in town often closes at 6pm I’m sure they can’t get people to work there. The people of East Palestine have been royally screwed. FEMA may give them some hotel vouchers for some hotel somewhere for awhile. FedGov needs to keep sending money to Ukraine. Priorities
Your post is not “anecdotal.” It’s what investigative reporters used to do — connecting dots.
“I have noticed that the CSX trains are super long now.”
The trains are longer because of Precision Scheduled Railroading (PSR) which results in longer trains and fewer workers. The recent national railway labor issues were related to PSR.
I am so sorry for your town and the tragic ridiculous fiasco this country has become and I appreciate you sharing an inside speak. Everyone here commenting means well and are angry, disgusted, (at this current administration) and all of us feeling powerless to help you. Sounds cliche but I will pray for all of this, we have a mighty God who will be leveling these evil doers in His time, makes the waiting hard, BUT HE IS THERE! May HE have mercy on us all – we cannot give up though without a fight. God does not call us to be silent in suffering! CALL your local and state reps! Find their emails and get hollering!! This is an grueling heinous crime! LET’s be a voice for these people suffering !!!
https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative
Buttigieg is the Mr. Bean of the Biden administration. (w/ apologies to Mr. Bean)
I’m only going there when Christine Todd Whitman says it’s okay.
Inquiry’s will be had, thousands of words will be written, conclusions will be reached but not until all this is forgotten. No one loses their job except the lowest employee on the track. Move along, these chemicals sit for years in the body before detection.
Well well well. More sacrificial lambs, huh?
East Palenstine is close to Steubenville, along the Ohio River – river people, the people who make things run.
No one notices when something serious happens to people like this, unless it fulfills an agenda.
Please pray for these folks.
Retired Magistrate here: Yep, former River person here (Portsmouth, Ohio) along with my husband (Steubenville, Ohio). Both cities are now shells of their former selves. The booming steel industry of the 30’s, 40’s, 50’s and 60’s was put out of business by cheap and inferior Japanese and Chinese steel. Now, many of the people who lived in these areas have moved out and drugs have taken over, very sad. No one cares about these areas or the people that are left in them. They are the forgotten, the people that President Trump always talked about and still talks about. He was/is one of the few who really cares about the hard working people in these areas.
The damage to the East Palestine, Ohio is immense. Contaminated farm land, contaminated pasture which cows will eat resulting in contaminated milk, contaminated and dying wildlife not to mention the harm done to citizens of Ohio and not just northeastern Ohio either. The cloud was high and dispersed its poison over a wide area. Our RINO Governor, DeWine, has been fairly quiet over this environmental disaster other than his original press conference. It will be interesting to see what, if anything, further he has to say. Right now it appears to be a major cover up.
May God bless and protect all impacted by this disaster. I live in a former Steelbelt town as well. Youngstown, Ohio as the crow flies is about 10 miles away. And Sharon,PA. We used to go to sleep at night watching the “sunset” of the slag burning at night.
Chemicals burning is another story entirely. I think.
This is scary! I live in SE PA. How do I know if it will affect my area? We certainly can’t count on our POS Democrat governor to tell us the truth.
Sorry to black pill on this, but by the time this gets to trial, the question for any plaintiff who sues for liver cancer is going to be “did you get the jab”?
Then they will trot out the evidence the jab can cause liver cancer and point at Pfizer to introduce doubt as to causation.
And anyone exposed to the fumes who sues Pfizer for liver cancer from the jab will point at the toxic exposure to introduce doubt as to causation.
This completely muddies the picture for causation, unless there is some scientific way of differentiating.
If you can’t prove causation by a preponderance of the evidence (50 percent certainty), you lose. The burden of proof is on the plaintiffs.
And so the poor farmer or worker dying of liver cancer will be screwed.
I guess that makes it doubly important to go get that baseline health exam right now, and only drink or consume uncontaminated items.
The poor families in Darlington under that cloud. Maybe a lot of them didn’t get the jab. But probably more than we could hope for.
The only solution for the problem I just outlined is some sort of federal legislation that presumes that if you lived in the affected region, you will be compensated without having to prove causation. Strict liability. Congress needs to act, and do so promptly.
Reminds me of atlas Shrugged and the train that goes into the tunnel without adequate ventilation and kills everyone. Sure sounds like our government nowadays.
Had forgotten that scene. I only remember Eddie falling on his knees, sobbing, in front of a train that could not go any farther. I think it was the very last train running. Its headlight is still on, but the light stretches into total darkness. There’s just nothing beyond that.
There have been train derailments in South Carolina and Texas today. The Left has practiced this form of terrorism for years yet the government has refused to treat them as terrorist. A woman who derailed a train in Washington was given a year in prison.
Watch the FBI blame this on Catholics.
Nah. They will blame President Trump. He’s just so convenient a target for anything that goes wrong.
Yeah, Steubenville is a good (genuinely) Catholic college.
Well.. at least they shipped it all together instead of spreading it out over several trains … sarc..
Don Dellilo’s White Noise.
A classic novel from the 80’s recently adapted into a mixed reviewed movie.
Is the derailment near Amish farmlands?
Pretty darn close. Buttigeg hates the Amish because they aren’t chest milkers.
Norfolk Southern is giving $25,000 to an Ohio town where it caused a life-or-death evacuation
That’s about $5.00 per person
https://www.yahoo.com/now/norfolk-southern-giving-25-000-200000640.html
That sounds about what they’d offer, IF that much.
I live about 30 or so miles north from East Palestine. Yesterday I think I had the first migraine headache in my lifetime. I attributed this to having eatem Pho Broth for the first time in my lifetime. Too much iodine I thought. Ha. It probably protected me.
Talk about diversionary tactics: put humans focus on what is going on up there rather than where boots and humans are on the ground. The wind was blowing like a banshee today and will be for the next few days here. My kits and I will be very unhappy but we are NOT going outside. No matter how splendid and strange the warm weather sputt might be.
This article is very sobering, to say the least:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ohios-apocalyptic-chemical-disaster-rages
Tucker reported tonight on the number of train derailments in the last year. It’s a big number. I’m thinking sabotage because I know that railroads are anal about track maintenance. It’s their lifeblood and they are constantly maintaining their tracks. My son monitors a chunk of the internet infrastructure in the mid Atlantic area. He was also surprised at the number of derailments as the main fiber lines run along RR tracks.
Glycine is good stuff for detoxifying either the kidney’s or the liver, and supports restful sleep. Not making light of this situation. You just reminded me to take my 3 tablets per night from reading this.
Thanks for the heads-up about something else I should order and have on hand — just in case it’s needed.
This story is close to a week old. We were sidetracked by UFO’s.
I knew something was a foot.
Jordan Walker just stated that his company creates derailments of chemicals so they can test vaccines.
What good is a vaccine for a chemical exposure?
Antidotes and neutralizing agents are a thing.
When Biden said he would cut greenhouse emissions in half by 2030. I guess he forgot to mention he was going to kill everyone to achieve his goals. “What Ever it Takes”
…” The Norfolk Southern train that derailed in East Palestine, Ohio, last week, setting aflame tankers of hazardous chemicals and prompting an evacuation of thousands of residents for almost a week, had traveled at least 20 miles with a malfunctioning axle, according to security camera footage from businesses in Salem, Ohio.”….
https://www.post-gazette.com/news/transportation/2023/02/10/east-palestine-train-derailment-video-fire-axle-alert/stories/202302100070
Something so small, like the Challenger O-ring fail, leading to disastrous consequences.
I don’t know what to think here. On the one hand, it isn’t a critical food processing plant, or massive livestock fire that will eventually lead to our starvation. On the other hand, we have a mini-Chernobyl in Ohio.
Everything emitted in this plume is toxic. PHOSGENE. This was the Alpha of chemical warfare. And now we have a rail car fire releasing this shit into the atmosphere and mums the word.
Let’s be honest. The best way to fight this disaster, is to send another billion or so to Ukraine.
It might be worthwhile to point out the top ten owners of Norfolk Southern Railroad, particularly the top three:
Clowns to left of me , jokers to the right,
Here I am, stuck in the middle again.
… and here I thought the 1991 Dunsmuir train wreck that destroyed (for a while) one of the greatest trout rivers in CA was the most shocking environmental episode since a burning Cayohuga River in Ohio in the 1970’s.
https://www.mtshastanews.com/story/news/2020/07/15/from-our-archives-cantara-loop-spill-was-29-years-ago/112681966/
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/cuyahoga-river-caught-fire-least-dozen-times-no-one-cared-until-1969-180972444/
Union Pacific performed a massive redesign of the tracks and bridge crossing at Dunsmuir to ensure no further wrecks. They discovered the primary cause of the wreck was “String-lining” of the cars on this massively long sloping section of track. Sadly, there have been 4 more derailments in this section of track since 1991, including recent derailments in Aug. 2021 and Nov. 2022.
Pete Butty-Gig gots no time for train wrecks
He’s got his panties-in-a-bunch anguishing over too many white guys in hard hats
He’s all upset that infrastructure jobs and contracts aren’t using people from the project locale to do the work
He’s all upset that the workers on the project “don’t look like us” … well – not HIM – ’cause he pasty white
They don’t look like “US”, the folks what live aroun’ here
What he doesn’t understand is that infrastructure is BIG jobs — roads and bridges and such
Contracts are awarded to companies that can do the work and have a proven track record in handling projects of that size
They bid tight and come in with their own engineers and subcontractors who bring their own employees, again with a proven record for showing up to work and being able to get the job done
The no-skill idjits who qualify as flag-wavers at the detour signs are a small, small percentage of the workers needed to actually get the projects done
And sometimes (often?) that means a buncha white guys in hard hats
But Butty-Gig’s got a hard-on about it
The construction sites don’t look “diverse” enough for him
That’s how everything is judged in woke-land these days
here’s a link
Pete Buttigieg Doesn’t Mention Ohio Derailment at Conference, But Finds Time to Say There Are Too Many White People Who Work in Construction
Initial investigation indicates the train was derailed by a “Hotbox” … an axle lubrication deficiency that causes wheel fires and seizure of the wheel. One Engineer said he’s only had 10 hotbox problems in his 50 years experience. Witnesses claimed they saw a wheel on fire just before the derailment.
https://www.wkbn.com/news/local-news/east-palestine-train-derailment/what-caused-the-train-derailment/
Of all the cars on a train … don’t you believe that extra care would be paid to hazardous chemical cars axle lubrication? And there are sensors available to warn of hot boxes prior to the point of axle seizure … both onboard and off board trains. Evidently this train received an off board sensor station warning but couldn’t stop the train in time.
Train crews have gotten smaller, and trains have gotten longer and longer … probably because of the high cost of fuel driving the need for economizing.
Yeah … eco-terrorism via energy policy … via global warming protocol
appreciate your interpretation as well as the link, Kenji
The people who are running the US should not be in charge of our institutions but be institutionalized.
Is OH Gov. Ralphie alive and doing something for his state or is his tongue stuck to a frozen metal light pole.
We are watching the methodical destruction of our country in real time.
Perhaps the Coup/CCP/WEF Alliance decided that actually nuking the US would be counterproductive, so they’ve gone with the “Death By A Thousand Cuts” strategy instead. Same goal, though.
I’m betting those who persisted in pushing the “Covid19 was an ACCIDENT!” nonsense are feeling far less sure of themselves now.