Buffalo New York is known for its extreme snow and cold weather as an outcome of Lake Erie and the ‘lake effect’ snow created. However, the current arctic storm is making even normally bad Buffalo even more dangerous.
Up to twelve people have been killed after they were trapped in their vehicles and currently rescue operations are underway at the airport to recover air traffic controllers who were stranded in the control tower.
(Reuters) – A deadly blizzard paralyzed Buffalo, New York, on Christmas Day, trapping motorists in their cars, knocking out electricity to thousands of homes and raising the death toll from a severe winter storm system that has chilled much of the United States for days.
At least 30 people have died in U.S. weather-related incidents, according to an NBC News tally, since a deep freeze gripped most of the nation, coupled with snow, ice and howling winds from a storm that roared out of the Great Lakes region late last week.
Much of the loss of life has centered in and around Buffalo at the edge of Lake Erie in western New York, as numbing cold and heavy “lake-effect” snow — the result of frigid air moving over warmer lake waters — persisted through the holiday weekend.
Erie County Executive Mark Poloncarz said the storm’s confirmed death toll climbed to 12 on Sunday, up from three reported overnight in the Buffalo region. The latest victims included some found in cars and some in snow banks, Poloncarz said, adding that the death tally might rise further.
Despite a ban imposed on driving since Friday, hundreds of Erie County motorists were stranded in their vehicles over the weekend, with National Guard troops called in to help with rescues complicated by white-out conditions and drifting snow, Poloncarz said.
“This is not the Christmas any of us hoped for nor expected,” Poloncarz said on Twitter on Sunday. “My deepest condolences to the families who have lost loved ones.
The Buffalo police department posted an online plea for the public assistance in search-and-recovery efforts, asking those who “have a snow mobile and are willing to help” to call a special hotline for instructions. The severity of the storm was notable even for a region well accustomed to harsh winter weather. (more)
Unbelievable! Praying for all those in harm’s way from this frigid winter weather.
Worked in and around Buffalo many times. Coldest, windiest, snowiest place I’ve ever been. My prayers on this Christmas Day to all in danger of this horrible weather.
It’s not all that bad,spent 56 years there.Good thing I moved to South Dakota a couple years ago.
I know you went through that same storm I did, it hit my area on Thursday I think. Snow, cold, and high winds. I think it was worse for you. Your time in Buffalo prepared you well. 🙂
Born and raised in Buffalo….Back then, this would be considered a mere dusting….so sez I from Arizona….Tried to get through to my sisters….can’t….
I have to laugh. I was born in SD; not a real picnic either but sounds a lot “warmer” than what Buffalo sounds like.
Grew up in MN and ND. Preparedness for the cold is a lifetime mindset. Safety in the cold can never be taken for granted because being wrong once might be the last time.
The cold is unforgiving.
Another testimonial to how much crappola the climate change BS is. Bring on the global warming.
I grew up in ND as well, 7 miles from the Canadian border.
You are absolutely correct. Fooling around unprepared in cold weather is not a good idea.
How right you are. Living in Alaska, has taught us all a really great lesson or two about cold. Remembering when a border crossing guard on Canadian border asked why we had all that cold weather gear stashed in the back of our station wagon…..it was January at the time. Made me laugh after we left.
Fargo ND teaches
Amen!
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And the looting has already commenced.
Global Warming is a terrible thing, especially when it gets so cold.
I had written a few days ago when it was well below zero here and wind was gusting that I wouldn’t mind a few extra degrees, and if it means the oceanfront homes of wealthy people get flooded then oh well. I don’t think humans are causing warming, and if there is warming I don’t accept that it’s all bad. “They” say the temperature has increased, but last year in Feb we had a brutal 10+ days of sub-zero temps with no respite, and for the past several days this week it’s been cold and snowy with a dangerous windchill. In fact, all year long I’m pretty sure my area has been colder than average.
Two words: Maunder Minimum
Global Warming was cleverly re-labeled because of those two words. Sort of like flipping a coin with identical sides. Can’t lose.
BINGO!
Yep, the old global warming ploy. If it’s to hot – global warming….if it’s to cold – global warming.
Anyway, I voted for it….
Notice there is no discussion of a lack of a maximum……….
Climate change is more palatable to the uninformed as brain washing
But those “that know” say the cold is because of global warming…..so we have had it either way they just want us all to lose.
“climate change” covers all the bases, while “Global Warming” did not. By adopting such a nebulous term they can blame extreme cold weather events like the above on it.
But the fact is that they are wrong all the time, no matter what term they use. Not a single climate disaster they have predicted has happened or appears about to happen. Temperatures, Tropical Storms, Tornadoes, Sea Level Rise, melting of the ice caps, Wild fires, melting of glaciers, death of the Great Barrier Reef, etc…… All have failed to materialize.
This month in the US will turn out to be colder than average after starting out warmer than average. The official highest temperature recorded in Death Valley in 1913 remains the record despite them putting in solar panels and parking lots around the station located there.
Global Accumulated Cyclone Energy was only 75% of the normal this year. Even the Atlantic Hurricane season was only 95% of normal.
Tornadoes in the US ended up under the 30th percentile of normal. And the power of the storms is declining with far fewer storms being EF-3 or higher than the historic average.
Every single one of the 1,000 plus Maldives is still above water. The Sea Level Guage at the Battery in Manhattan shows the same rate of SLR as it did 100 years ago.
Northern Hemisphere Snow Extent is well above average. The Glaciers at Glacier National Park are actually growing when the government declared they would be gone. Kilimanjaro is still capped with snow when it was declared it would be gone by now. The Children of S. England know what snow is.
Wild fires in the US were well below normal this year in burned acreage and have remained far below the records set in the 1800’s.
Two Australian government sponsored studies published in the last two years of the Great Barrier Reef had found that the over all health of the Reef is excellent and the reef is actually growing.
The list goes on and on.
Thank you for that summary from middle England,
Exactly! The news media now denies anything about the Little Ice Age which ended about 90 years ago and it’s effects on our climate today. They have also rewritten the history of the Viking settlements on Greenland which had farms, churches and villages until the 13th Century when The Little Ice Age struck and the Vikings were forced to abandon Greenland because of the extreme cold.
The LIA ended about 1850.
Michael Mann did his best to do away with the LIA and the MWP (Medieval Warming Period) with his tree ring study. The UNIPCC adopted Mann’s BS despite a plethora of other studies using other proxy evidence that were counter to it. And that is where the US government and thus the “News” gets their cue.
Yep! The Norsemen built their traditional long houses using timber harvested there. They raised livestock for which they needed fodder. They even built a Cathedral which had a Bishop assigned to it. Thus there were obviously large trees as some stumps that have been exposed as the ice shifts have confirmed. Now days the trees in S. Greenland are skinny things.
The original “hockey stick” propaganda graph at the start of the global worming hoax didn’t have the LIA on it at all. This was the first big red flag on the con. Anyone with a half-way decent education would have spotted that right away.
The blade part of the stick was actually the thermometer record that Mann scabbed on to his tree ring crap when his rings did not match up with thermometer record. THAT was the real violation of scientific procedure. That little turd is a liar and remains so to this day. I await the long past due day when the Mann v. Stein ruling comes out. Mann already lost in Canada trying the same thing with Tim Ball and refused to pay so is a fugitive in Canada. Unfortunately Tim Ball died earlier this year a financially broken man due to the legal fees and so Mann accomplished exactly what he wanted.
There is always going to be weather, they have it coming and going.
Also sorta like changing the rules of a game you’re in the middle of losing!
Makes you want to rush out and buy an electric car…
🤣😂🤣😂🤮😱😃😃
Great article up at zero hedge about inability to charge a Tesla EV at 19F.
… and set the lithium batteries on fire?
Exactly.
You’ll stay warm and rescuers can see you from space.
For days.
All I can do is laugh at that remark. Like everyone has an “extra $60,000 or so”store prices going so low like they are…….chuckle, chuckle. And the electricity in this weather is so really dependable.
Noticing daily in Boca Raton. Florida. Electricity has doubled in cost. Tesla drivers avoiding hot days with “windows down”, AC off. Styling in their Teslas………
Yeah, but what then?
Did you know those oceanfront homes are insured by the Federal Government because no private insurance company would take the risk? John Stossel did a segment on this a few years ago.
I did not know that. Fabulous. :/
“Insured by the Federal government” is code for FEMA. What it really means is they bury you in paperwork until you give up and abandon your property. Then the government swoops in to reclaim the land.
Using weather and climate excuses to traffick populations into high-density urban centers is part and parcel of UN Agenda 2021’s ‘sustainability’ effort.
More people die of cold than heat, that’s for sure.
Global Colding
50-60 years ago that was exactly what the “scientists” were warning about. A New Ice Age they called it.
The fact is in geological time terms, we are in an interglacial period of an ongoing ice age. And Ice Age does not end until one of the two poles are ice free.
This was the kind of stuff one read in the “news” all the time back then.
I’m tempted to take some time to find out which scientists and engineers met to discuss this problem. I wonder if any of them are now promoting the global warming crap.
As a matter of fact I read somewhere that the third gen scientist were the ones who renamed this “climate change.” They were the grad students of the 2nd gen scientists, who were in about global warming. Those were the grad students of the first group who were worried about global cooling and warned of the “Ice Ball.” The Ice Ball fear was the thing when I graduated high school in 1972, 50 years ago. I’ll be 69 next month. In that 50 years they have flipped from cooling to warming to ” where’s the warming” and now climate change.
I have somewhere on a computer drive in an old dead desktop, a page with headlines from various newspapers going back to the Victorian era, the 1880’s. They are alternating with alarms between global heat and ice ball. The alternating period is about 20-22 years. Just like the Solar Cycle. How about that!
The generations of scientists who were raised on computer modeling become less reliable after every iteration no matter what field of “study.”
Want to guess if taxpayer$ ( via govm’t )
were funding that ‘science’ in 1962.
Did we get anything out of the inve$tment?
Did the weather improve?
People know.
(hint, looks like some people – not competent in producing something useful –
are giving wooden-nickels, again )
Prove all things,
hold fast to that which is good.
Thessalonians 5:21
Ha! A bunch of them wrote a letter to President Reagan suggesting that coal dust be spread over the Arctic. The idea being that the black dust would absorb heat by decreasing the albedo (reflection by the ice) and cause melting!
These elite “scientists” have made so many predictions since the late 50s they are just like those who have predicted the end of the world.
Always wrong
Profitably wrong.
Science might be more believable if they said that the” end of our world” about to arrive. You know, to those who ‘believe’ science totally.
As recently as 1976 and 1993 (4?) i was paticipant to snow in South Florida. 1976 in Golden Gate (East of Naples) and 1993 on Sanibel Island.
Now, If there really were Globull Warming,,,,,,,,how is it possible that there was snow at either of those two times? Or am I just a liar???????
Wednesday, January 19, 1977 snow in Miami, Florida
https://newswithoutpolitics.com/2022/01/19/this-day-in-history-1977-snow-in-miami/
Yep and we’re on our way for another big change. The poles are shifting again and the sun spots are less, with a few exceptions because of the poles shifting. A few really good YouTube, Rumble Channels covering all this. They say, between now and the 2040’s it’s the 12,000 yr big one.
Periods of major Glaciations occur not so much because there is more frozen precipitation, but primarily because of lack of melt during what are the warmer months. So one must look at what occurs or does not occur during the summer months over a period to predict such events.
For those of you really interested in the Natural/Earth sciences as they apply to climate, I highly recommend this book.
The Resilient Earth: Science, Global Warming and the Fate of Humanity by Allen Simmons (goodreads.com)
It covers all of it in layman’s terms and is very well organized and written.
I remember in late 60’s they were scaring us all to death with global freezing!!!
Global warming, man made climate change is like the jfk magic bullet that stopped in mid air and made a u turn.
People believe this stuff because they don’t try to verify what they are told to believe.
Trusting everything the govment tells you is also like just hearing all the so called benefits of getting the jab by your doctor and not knowing the govment has told the doctor if he says anything about the possible long term side effects, including death he will loose his license.
There is no imformed concent when the govment is involved.
“Loose” his license? Seriously?
WTH do so many intelligent people write “loose” when they mean “lose?” Unlike “reign” and “rein” they’re not even pronounced the same way.
What’s really stupid is it literally these fools that believe in global warming and restricting fossil fuels. We need the energy for life, for food, for warmth and everything else to sustain life itself.
Im sorry for the innocent lost of life because someone’s power goes out or they get trapped in a car and can’t escape because of heavy snowfalls.
Notice how fast the weather exploiters, scammers and grifters changed their own terminology from
“GLOBAL WARMING” to … climate change.
Because WARMING caught them in the lie. But, change… well, THAT will fit whatever narrative they need it to fit.
Hurricane? Climate CHANGE! Snow storm? Must be due to a change in the climate… Duh.
Just not the global warming kind. Snow storms – of ANY kind are a direct result of CLIMATE CHANGE and no longer related to anything other than giving money to people who want to starve and freeze you to death all in the name of … climate change.
Save the planet! – Even if it means killing people. It’s the woke thing to do and trees everywhere will thank you for it!
Wouldn’t trees prefer lots more carbon dioxide?
Over 8o% of our planet is carbon based, including us. It’s what creates life. They’re lying about co2.
That’s a big yes. Commercial growers already have to pump extra CO2 in their greenhouses to get better yields from their plants.
At least 2 geologists have been permenantly banned from LinkedIn for posting graphs of how low the levels of atmospheric CO2 actually are.
NASA says the earth is “greening” or IOW vegetation coverage of the earth is increasing!
Scientific American 1920 – “Fertilizing the air with carbon dioxide to promote plant growth”Scientific American 1920 – “Fertilizing the air with carbon dioxide to promote plant growth” | Real Climate Science
Heretic!
We do feel so invulnerable in our vehicles don’t we?
Homes too I suspect.
Prayers for us all.
Many sure do. When they dodge in front of a big truck that could weight 80,000 pounds and hit the brakes that is exactly what the driver must be thinking! I mean that is the only explanation when a driver puts themselves in a position where all they can see in their rear view mirror is the grill of a big truck.
When I hit the brakes I always have the rear in mind and in view.
Especially when emergency braking.
Dash cam is key. I put one in and have had to show officers the footage twice. My truck is 9600lbs without a trailer. That gap between me and the next car is for ME, not for three idiots who want to jump in front approaching a red light.
The other time, I pulled through a spot at Lowe’s and parked facing out in a relatively sparse area. When I came out, a lady was parked behind me and told me she had already “called the cops” and that I shouldn’t leave. I noticed her front bumper had a decent gash due to my hitch. Officer showed up, I said nothing and let her spin her little tale. She did fill out an incident report stating what happened. She then signed it, swearing and affirming the accuracy of her statements.
When the officer asked me for my license etc, I played video back for him. I quickly pointed out that she had just provided false statements to him and she swore to them being true. I suggested she should be arrested for making false statements with intent to commit insurance fraud. The officer agreed. She began crying and shaking and trying to apologize. I left, don’t know what happened to her, don’t give a crap either. It was real close to f around and find out, though. Dash cams, front and rear will save you
I’m definitely considering that for my car, figure in my specific circumstances I need something that can ensure that miscreants can’t mess around without finding out.
All I can say after reading what happened is …… GOOD FOR YOU. I used to drive alone a lot as a young lady; on the CA highways. No cell phones in those days (tells you how old I am now). Any time I stopped at the side of the highway (for any reason) it was always the ‘trucker’ who stopped to see if everything was OK, or if I needed help…..never the thousands of others who drove by, but always a truck driver would stop, especially if it was dark. They were always polite, never anything but helpful. I’ve always looked up to truckers because of that.
They are in all the trucks of the company I drive for and there is also a driver cam. It is all linked into a system where it is recorded on a loop. If there is contact, heavy braking, or maneuvering at high Gs, the system automatically transmits the video to the service starting at 10 seconds before the triggering event. That way nobody can erase what has been recorded. The driver also has a green button they can push to initiate the recording and sending if they so desire.
What are the chances that the Borg have geo-engeneered some way to raise temps in Ukraine, but the trade-off is colder temps here?
I know, sounds crazy to me too, But…I wouldn’t put it past them.
This was a bad storm but it’s not unprecedented.
Did we buy our tin foil hats at the same store? Because I’m starting to believe that manipulating weather is a possibility.
Operation Popeye aimed to flood the Ho Chi Minh Trail during the 1970s
https://gizmodo.com/the-secret-weather-manipulation-program-of-the-vietnam-1689249533
“Make mud, not war,” was the unofficial moniker of the Air Force pilots who carried out the missions.
Record warmth in Europe, just as Russia is waiting on the ground to freeze for their winter offensive to finish off the Zelensky regime. All set and ready to go – except the temps aren’t cooperating.
Northern parts of Russia were -82 a few weeks ago. Russia is an awfully big Country.
We used to always say “you can’t control the weather” when something went FUBAR. I think they can, we can’t, but they can. My mother used to notice that every time NASA sent up a rocket we would get weather, being a kid I didn’t pay it much mind.
Had originally planned to drive up to Buffalo for Christmas to see family. Am instead spending Christmas alone in Ohio. Having watched the weather conditions, there was no way I was going to attempt making the drive this year. My sister, who lives the closest to ground zero, knew enough to stock up for her family like she was preparing for a hurricane so they have plenty of food. Fortunately they also have power … some of her neighbors weren’t so lucky.
Having run into winter storms on previous holidays, my family tends to exchange bags full of Christmas gifts at Thanksgiving (normally the weather’s better then) or make other arrangements, knowing that we may not see each other in person for Christmas.
Prayers are definitely appreciated at this time for Buffalo and all of Western New York and the Southtowns in the Southern Tier and I’d also like to include Rochester.
It’s a good thing you didn’t go there or you’d be stuck there! I-90 is closed. I see Ohio by the lake also got pounded.
Driving anywhere near Erie, Pennsylvania during a storm is no picnic either.
My own personal opinion is that New York does a much better job at snow removal, salting and sanding than Pennsylvania.
I remember mayor Bloomberg saying NYC spent a million dollars per inch of snow.
Those are Bloomberg prices.
That is certainly the case of I-90. However PA does a pretty good job on the PA turnpike. Difference? Toll roads generally get better snow removal than others.
PA is horrible..Pittsburgh is really bad with all the hills and narrow roads.
Good call. Now if you were going to some point east you could have taken I-86 and stayed away from the lake and missed it.
She still couldn’t have made it to Buffalo.
Always wise to gather info, plan accordingly, and not depend on others to think for you or save you.
Wise family.
When I was young, we had family scattered around the upper midwest, so we celebrated Christmas in July complete with gifts.
You also come from a wise family!
Prayers to you, your family, and those suffering in New York.
Thank you very much, JWoo!
I guess by using crude oil brought on the global warming! (sarc)
I have relatives there including 3 who had travelled there and were supposed to return to the midwest on Thursday except we had a storm here. So they were stuck in Buffalo. The official National Weather Service snow total earlier today was 43″ and it’s still snowing. My relatives have power and only a single downed tree that landed on a fence. The 3 who travelled are waiting for I-90 to reopen, it has been closed since Friday night. I had listened to the police scanner (via Broadcastify) on Friday night and it was CRAZY.
By the way, listening to the scanner I identified a scam that might not be new but it’s the first I’ve heard about it. People lost power at their homes and they wanted to go to a shelter but didn’t want to transport themselves, so they called 911 and faked emergencies. There were so many of these calls they were causing a problem and the police had to lay down the law, so to speak. They understood what was happening.
There were also way too many people on the roads and they got stuck and caused many problems. Some were calling for rescue. Some abandoned their vehicles which then clogged the roads. What I heard on the scanner was truly amazing and my heart goes out to all of the responders and dispatchers and other people working so hard to try to avoid a total disaster.
I just heard tonight that there are people still stranded at the airport including air traffic controllers and TSA agents and some passengers. The airport is now projected to reopen on Tuesday at 11am but it’s still snowing in the area.
That 43″ snow total was at the Buffalo airport.
Nothing new here. This has happened as long as any of us have been alive and for thousands of years before that.
They used to tell people to keep blankets in the car for emergncies. Now they are to busy howling about climate change.
Yeah, having grown up in the Buffalo area, the back seat of my car always contains hats, gloves, mittens, scarves, an extra jacket, a sweater, and the trunk contains a sleeping bag and a blanket. Old habits die hard, so I carry this extra gear in my car even in the sweltering heat of the summer months!
I have been working on a “go bag” for a long time. Actually two, a backpack with absolute essentials that I can wear if my car isn’t accessible/driveable, and a bag for the car with more stuff in it. I got info from numerous sites about what to put in the bags. One of the best ideas IMO is a mylar blanket, those foil-like sheets that you can wrap around yourself to help keep the heat in. They are extremely thin and lightweight, so I have two in the backpack. The car go bag has a down throw. A sleeping bag sounds like a good idea, I will look into that, I’ll bet there are some with mylar cores.
They make mylar bags for such use, not terribly breathable though so one can become soaked if not careful.
Interesting. I see a mylar emergency sleeping bag. I think this is what you’re talking about. I like it!
When in SF it was standard equipment in our bug out bags. They work.
BTW that guys head needs covered. About 85% of heat loss is from the head in normal conditions.
I always had a small shovel and rug remnants in the trunk to put under the tires for traction when stuck on the ice.
I always run good winter tires with studs, and am sticking with AWD to boot.
Not as good as AWD or 4 WD certainly, is a limited slip differential or a posi traction with RWD. I have to drive the long Dodge 1 ton B350 MaxiVans or the Ford Econoline E350 SuperVans and the limited slip differential is fabulous in the snow. Like night and day!
Yes, essential.
I’d like to run a van with an Atlas II transfer case so I could run it in front wheel drive for most Winter driving, with a Torsen differential, but I haven’t hit the lottery yet…
Living in Idaho I had all of those things as I usually had my snowboard gear with me during the winter months. You know what else I had? A couple of tow straps.
My whole back area behind my front seat holds blankets, jackets, shovel, food, tarp, fire starters, bottled water and every other thing I can carry. In Alaska, the next gas station or the next store is not always just a short jaunt away. Remember that where ever you go and where ever you live. Please be careful – everyone. Go with God.
I spent winters in ND, ID and WY. I always had extra clothes, sleeping bag, food, backpacking stove, and water in my vehicle.
Actually Any/everyone should have emergency gear in their vehicle…..all the time. It might help someone else as well a you and your family. It is always a good idea.
Tough way to go. Been stranded in snowstorms for hours but had plenty of gas to keep warm til help came.
I keep a minimum of 5 days of provisions in my big truck for just such a contingency. I don’t let my fuel state get below half when conditions are such that I could get stranded.
I always need to travel with provisions due to severe food allergies.
I have done plenty of long haul driving in snow over the years. Rah is right – keep the fuel tank full and carry some extra in cans if there is bad weather because you might not be able to get to a gas station. Lots of blankets and pillows, charged equipment and chargers. In a pinch there are outlets in the rest areas to recharge. Lots of water in a container which will keep it from freezing as well as food for all (dogs and people) and a well-packed first aid kit. Always carry heavy duty thermal gloves (found in welding section at Home Depot or Menards) because if there is an accident someone needs to open the door to get people out. Also I always have that breaking glass tool handy – having been swept into moving water. As soon as the car is wet all electric windows and doors are LOCKED. Never want to be there again. An eyeshade is my other safety equipment. On long haul that 1/2 hour nap is critical for safety and good places to park (truck stops, rest areas) are well lit. Get quality sleep for your nap with a warm cap, warm body and dark eyeshade so you are alert when you go back out.
I sleep on top of a sleeping bag that is opened up. The bag is rated for -30 F and if necessary I can just zip her back up and crawl in. However my truck has “Idle management”. A system where I have an extra bank of batteries located between the frame rails under the utility deck. Those batteries run the bunk heater or a A/C unit separate from the one on the engine.
The truck starts automatically to recharge the batteries when needed or if the oil temperature of the engine drops below a certain temp. The bunk heater uses about 1 gallon of fuel every 10 hours compared to an idling engine that uses about 1 gallon an hour.
Really what people need to know is not to be bashful in asking for help if they get stranded and in dire straits. My truck has the condo sleeper so I have an extra bunk.
Amazing that we have governments, federal, state and local, who seem to be taking our nation backwards from one of initiative and innovation to 3rd world sorry, we can’t afford to let you have fuel to heat your homes and businesses.
Lived in Buffalo years ago; very very sad to see this happening there; prayers that those who are having difficulties staying warm or getting around are quickly warmed and helped by their family and neighbors.
QUESTION?
Do solar panels and wind machines generate electricity in these weather conditions? Asking for the whole world!!
Green energy dies not work. It kills!!
And don’t those getting rich off of it know it!
I can’t imagine anyone’s solar panels were functional during the storm. The sky was completely overcast, and there were heavy snowfall and high winds creating a blizzard situation. I’ve seen photos of homes that have snow plastered to vertical surfaces, I imagine angled solar panels were covered with snow.
Some corroborating info here: https://www.energy.gov/eere/articles/let-it-snow-how-solar-panels-can-thrive-winter-weather
A dusting of snow has little impact on solar panels because the wind can easily blow it off. Light is able to forward scatter through a sparse coating, reaching the panel to produce electricity. It’s a different story when heavy snow accumulates, which prevents PV panels from generating power. Once the snow starts to slide, though, even if it only slightly exposes the panel, power generation is able to occur again.
Heavy snowfall can present a problem when the weight of the snow places stress on a PV system’s support structure. The majority of PV panels in the field today have frames, which tend to create localized stresses at the mounting points. At the Vermont Test Center, researchers are characterizing impacts such as microcracks formed by the non-uniform load of the snow. As can be seen in the photo, the absence of a frame allows the snow to slide off. This research has the potential to make solar a more economic option for energy generation in northern climates.
They talk about snow sliding off. IMO that only happens if the bottom-most layer of snow is melting. Not going to happen in 10 degree weather unless there’s some feature of the solar panel that heats it up, like a car window heater.
SOME of THEIR SCAMS
https://energynews.us/2022/12/19/climate-solutions-for-great-lakes-power-grid-include-better-planning-transmission/
When stranded in your running vehicle in drifting snow, you must go out and clear the snow from the exhaust pipe.
Yep
If you are driving a car with small exhaust leaks between the manifold and exhaust exit at the tailpipe, the rushing air under your car blows away the deadly fumes and you never notice it. If your car idles too long in one place without moving and any breeze that would blow under the car and remove that leaked exhaust is blocked, you can still be in danger even if the exhaust exit at the tailpipe is clear. If the whole underside of your car is embedded in snow because you skidded off the road into a foot of snow, clearing the tailpipe, ONLY, might just prolong your inevitable death.
Asphyxiation also happens inside houses! My friend’s oil burner shut itself off because the outside vent was blocked by snow. He has a newer unit with sensors that shut down.
Others in Buffalo died of asphyxiation inside their homes, because snow blocked the vents to outside, but their oil burners kept on running.
You would think folks living in Buffalo keep a better eye on the weather and have storm preparation sorted out. i.e. generators, snowblowers, blankets and warming gear stowed in vehicles, wood stoves, fireplaces, proper clothing, etc. Travel ban since Friday yet hundreds of trapped vehicle rescues and 30+ deaths. Yes, it’s a severe storm but people should have been paying better attention. There is little excuse with today’s communication technology.
There was a massive blizzard in 1888 that ran from D.C. to Maine dumping 58″ on Saratoga Springs and 45″ in New Haven. There were 400 lives lost and nine months later a massive baby boom.
I don’t think it’s just the insular and myopic and willfully ignorant, though they figure to comprise a portion of those. How many people driving the cars and the jackknifed tractor trailers mentioned below might be from places they don’t usually encounter snow, and they are now newly arrived in such areas?
These are the same people who are at HDepot buying plywood…again.
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How many ‘asylum seekers’ from tropical countries have been flown up there?
i AM SADDENED at the LOSS of LIFE, my OBJECTIVE and SUBJECTIVE OBSERVATIONS are that HUMANS PUT THEMSELVES in ” INCOMPATIBLE to OUR LIFE CONDITIONS “.
SAD, that With OUR HISTORICAL RECORDS – we STILL Find Ourselves in these situations.
Thailand Lost a FRIGATE and 30 Crewmembers for Being in the WRONG CONDITIONS and NOT HAVING ADEQUATELY Taken ENOUGH PRECAUTIONS.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/thai-warship-sinks-after-power-loss-in-heavy-storm-dozens-still-missing
THOSE LOST to POWER OUTAGES due to ” Rolling Blackouts ” ARE CRIMINAL NEGLECT in Nature.
( & YES, i HAVE FOUND myself in Conditions of EXTREMIS ( the Song CRYSTAL BALL is my SOUL SONG for my Surviving So Far ))
Drove Rt. 80 in the Midwest today. Counted 50 car/SUV/passenger trucks in ditches and smashed and 42 18 wheeler Jack knifed or in ditches. All vehicles abandoned (probably for 1-2 days). This was from the borders of East Ohio to the western edge of Indiana. These were only the vehicle’s that I saw, many more accidents were cleared and towed not included in this count because I didn’t physically see them in the ditch or on the side of the road.
…and the green cultist government want us all in EVs.
This is dreadful enough, but more would have lost their lives were this the case now.
Always keep a spare can of electricity handy, especially in the Winter.
Any particular brand? 😉
The road runner swears by Acme
Oh niiiiiice…😂
Best bang for your buck.
Y’all are killing it! Too funny!
I prefer a 60/40 Solar blend with either a Texas or Wyoming wind generation vintage, Greeniac or Nature Nazi depending which one you have a coupon for.. 😉
Snake oil, in other words, CR…outstanding.
If you refer to I-80, on a good day, at least by me, is treacherous.
Tannersville, PA, I-80 is one spot that is treacherous in all types of weather. You would never know that there is a speed limit. Best to let the pack advance and hold back.
“Despite a ban imposed on driving since Friday, hundreds of Erie County motorists were stranded in their vehicles over the weekend, …” …..and there it is. ….
And then a couple hundred other people (minimum) have to risk their lives because these numbskulls couldn’t voluntarily limit their own activities.
It would be appropriate if they all received bills for the efforts expended to save them. That’s what would happen in Minnesota (last time we were there) if people went out on the roads after being told to stay off the roads due to blizzard conditions.
Were check points set up— like they do for drunk drivers on holidays?
Does this mean first responders were intentionally restricted on prevention and rescues due to a ‘ban’?
This sounds a little familiar.
I recall hero nurses making dance videos during the extreme lockdowns of the China Virus.
Teachers paid bonus pay through China Virus funding for teaching on-line.
Were they understaffed because of the holiday?
Like hospitals during China Virus had to restrict # of beds because of less staff —but Lapdog Media would claim Hospitals were at capacity.
When I worked at the hospital if the weather was bad we were told to stay and provisions were made, and if you had to report in for a shift they sent the cops to pick you up, and were told to bring an overnight bag.
Mandatory 1 year jail sentence for DWI – no exceptions.
If there is an emergency driving ban violation that put them in position to need the rescue, yes, there should be costs.
Double if they’re not vax’d? Free if they’re illegals?
😂
In my hood, you do get a bill for an EMS ambulance ride to the hospital, it does not relate to weather, ou get a bill.. Tax dollars no longer cover it.
Your plan for handling people who are lonely (This is the CHRISTMAS SEASON!!!) and went to visit relatives or who might need to work an extra shift because they are being forced to choose between food, heat or prescriptions or were out of a necessity and risked it, sounds like WEF inspired thinking.
Don’t know nuttin’ about no WEF. My reference point is reality.
Of course if all of those people needing rescue or being past rescue were (1) lonely or, (2) forced to work an extra shift, then of course, I’m completely wrong and a terrible person. Even without being influenced by WEF.
Maybe they can adjust the rules to indicate “Stay off the roads because conditions are life-threatening unless you are lonely or are being forced to work an extra shift…..(and if you are being forced to work an extra shift in spite of life-threatening conditions, please notify OSHA)…..”
Yeah. Like I said. I’m a terrible person. And also, too much reality in my life experience to accept the premise of your argument.
I’ll have what you’re having….. 😉
Make mine a double.
nothing like the old we are restricting your liberties because we know what is best for you comment….always soothes my sensibilities
Didn’t you and I have a similar discussion about people in flood prone areas in hurricanes refusing to leave and I pointed out that if you have very little in the way of material possessions, going to a shelter and putting everything you treasure in the hands of looters could be to someone like me a fate worse than death? Taking a 1 in 10 chance of risking death is a risk worth taking if you’re looking at grinding poverty with no chance of affording even Salvation Army prices.
WE got slammed (but not what they predicted) on Thursday in IL and the news media was reminding people to get everything they needed and be prepared–prescriptions etc. to avoid going out in the weather as it would be life threatening.
Personal accountability and responsibility, no longer virtuous.
The following is still around too:
https://darwinawards.com/
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If the only people on the roads were ones who absolutely needed to be on them, there would have been far fewer stuck cars and people calling 911 to be rescued. Loneliness is not a valid reason, do a phone call, text, or zoom meeting. However, a medical emergency or trying to get home after working extra hours would be valid IMO.
Many suicides are among extremely lonely people, whether it’s their fault or not. I’ll rescue a stupid person as well as a smart person.
If they don’t have someone to call then they don’t have someone to visit. Nobody should have been driving in a snowstorm because they were lonely.
I wish I had a recording of what I heard on the scanner. There were way too many calls for things that weren’t emergencies to the point where they had to set some strict rules, including that only an ambulance could transport someone with a medical problem, the police and fire department couldn’t do it. It was a total triage situation, you can say you would rescue a stupid person but you wouldn’t have been allowed to do it if there were more urgent people you needed to help.
“If they don’t have someone to call then they don’t have someone to visit.”
Words that should be etched on your tombstone so people will know just what you were about.
Praying for Buffalo area people, for those without sufficient heat who are suffering through this cold spell, and for those who have come down with Covid and flu during the holidays.
Two in my family were sick, and I was just recovering so I didn’t go. By the time it was all over two more were sick even though they tried to keep their distance, hand washing etc. One of them was pregnant. So not a fun family gathering this year.
Then it brought me to the thought if pregnant women are still being told to not take cold meds during pregnancy, but yet are being told to take the vaxx? I don’t know the vaxx status of my in-law, but it would be just the like the gummint.
Doctor Zhivago IS APROPOS for BOTH the WINTER and the Condition of the Nation imo
Accurate…so accurate.
I was thinking about that movie the other day. Might have to give it a watch here soon.
Really sad news, stay safe out there everyone.
In 190o, the city of Buffalo was one of the top 10 most populated cities in America.
The cold and snow did not deter the city’s growth back then, because, like other places north of the Ohio River, the snow melts and the cold does not last and people were not manic about wanting perfect weather every day!
No alligators to worry about, no hurricanes, and no iguanas falling out of trees when the temperature hits 45 degrees.
True enough!
Iguana white Christmas!
Haha. I was just looking at “best warm places for a vacation in the USA in February”. San Diego, CA? Don’t like that state.
Phoenix, AZ? Don’t like that one either. San Antonio, TX? That one sounded pretty nice.
But do I really want to have to get on a plane? If I have to fly, maybe I’ll just stick it out until the weather breaks and fly to Seattle to see my grandkids.
Sometimes, there really is no place like home. Even if it’s 6 below zero.
Last time I flew I slept on the floor of a C17 back across the pond for the last time.
Will never fly again.
I will not submit to the tyrannical indignities they impose upon us to do so.
EXACTLY HOW i FEEL – IF i AM NOT ” UP FRONT ” = I AM NOT FLYING !
( i’LL DRIVE )
AMEN!
The white-haired, green-eyed, obviously Germanic for generations Mrs. Ausonius (in her 70’s) has been searched and pawed the last 4 times we have been on airplanes!!!
Idiots!
The Israelis (I am told) have no shame about profiling people and thereby speed up things immensely, not wasting their time on searching people like my wife…or me!
ONE guy c. 45 years ago tries to put a bomb in his shoes…and we are still unable to let that go?! EVERYBODY take off your shoes 45 years later?!
Imbeciles!
“Oh, but you have to be safe!”
I am about ready to throttle the next moron who tells me to “Stay safe!”
Never flew in one. They came into service after I got out. Did fly plenty in C-141s and C-130s though. String up a hammock between the stanchions which hold the jump cables and have a poncho liner to keep you warm and your in business.
Amen!
As an Ohioan, you will know the wisdom of:
“So you don’t like this weather? Wait a day or two! It will change!” 🙂
PATIENCE brings about the only true “climate change.” 🙂
The left coast is going to be a very wet place very soon. I’m talking reservoir filling, draught ending sustained rain. And since as we have all seen according to “the news” the state of California is a continuing disaster area where if it isn’t wild fires, it’s earthquakes, or draughts, or mudslides, I would be ready for the reports of disasters from the later.
This is so sad. And to happen on Christmas makes it worse. Think of all the people left behind who are related to them. every Christmas they will have to be reminded of this terrible Storm. seems to always be people who this type of thing shouldn’t happen to end up dying.
I ask myself ,why couldn’t it be a happy story like a plane loaded with about 18 senators headed to Ukraine for photo opps and to arrange for their own personal cut of the tax money being squandered over there.
Such an event would be spun as a useful casus belli.
You know, the Ruskies did it, so let’s go nookielur!
when you live up in those crazy colder areas you
need to be smart and prepare for such occurrences
and have a emergency separate heat source and provisions stashed in your vehicle
something like a sterno can
…..but that makes you an unreasonable and heartless WEF-influenced person, based on comments above from boogeywstew….
Now now, be nice.
He’s simply concerned about the totalitarian impulse such powers tend to provoke, though I agree it could have been substantially less confrontational.
We all do need to keep our anti-totalitarian whiskers aquiver in these times.
Sharon is ALWAYS nice….and very well-reasoned. She’s the mayor of “Realsville” in my book.
Copy that!
Consider me suitably catsized!
🙂
Whiskers aquiver……I like that! 😀
WTFeline taught me well.
there is a big difference in a nation built on freedom of a RECOMMENDATION of limiting your travel to that which is necessary and the HEAVY hand of government RESTRICTING your travel by government decree….how short are their memories when they so WILLINGLY again give up THEIR decision making ability
I’m self reliant and don’t need the government to baby sit or save me
the only influence the WEF has on me
is making me have a strong desire to build
special huge Lamp Posts
for those wonderful WEF Ornaments
that are begging to be strung up like Christmas lights!
Gee … did “oldjunkfixer” comment about whether he’d bill unwise motorists? I don’t think so. It would be enlightening, to us both, to see a survey of stranded motorists but I admit someone going out for a 6 pack or crack probably would lie.
(..joe six pack will use a vehicle and call the cops if he fcks up..
crack head will go out on foot and never call the cops for anything..)..
Jeez. F ing let it go. These people are DEAD. We should be praying for them and their families not condescendingly blaming them for their own deaths.
What the hell is wrong with you people?
One sterno can can heat the interior of a small car for about 2 hours. What about oxygen depletion if you go that route? Any old blankets, coats, boots roomy enough to wear heavy wool socks over cotton socks, hats and gloves need to be stored in the car. If you survive, Vogue will probably not be there for a photo shoot. Boxes of Pop Tarts? Any beverages, besides alcohol, you can store without freezing?
No such beverages exist to my knowledge, unless there are palatable non-toxic antifreezes available.
I’ve wondered about this bit myself, wonder if a container could be created that could handle the force of the water being frozen but have some kind of heating core to make it useable in an emergency.
Something that doesn’t rely on batteries or other fragile tech, perhaps a chemical reaction such as used to heat military MREs, with the activating water for it combined with a suitable anti-freeze that could be activated with the pull of a cord or some such.
Of course, heading out with a vacuum thermos of warm water would be helpful. I have to pack a bag everytime I leave the house anyway. Must have fluids and cold packs on hand even in the Winter, I’m such a hot-head. Amazing the things one can get used to to survive.
freeze point of beer is ~ +27° F..
freeze point of whiskey is ~ -27°C (-16° F)
and for bailing out..
When I was in Alaska I heard stories of grunts on exercises hitting the whiskey, and nearly dying as the cold booze froze their esophagus and the immediate swelling choked them to death, narrowly averted by prompt medic response.
Liquid? Check.
Drinkable? Not so much.
now that’s interesting – but follows reason
the whisky is able to be super-chilled, far below freezing
in the winter…when leaving the house for anytime – dress and pack supplies as though you were walking
Yup.
If you can’t walk out, don’t drive in.
Sure don’t miss that a bit. They will have piles of thawing snow until May.
Has greta been informed?
Since her dreams of global communism is being realized, she is on too the next step with the “fair” redistribution of wealth. Globull warming is so yesterday!
Scoldylocks is on the cutting edge of global graft.
As bad as this is the worst blow for the city was losing 5 super bowls in a row in the 90’s.
Yeah, but they only burn their city down if they win, so that’s actually a form of a win, n’est-ce pas?
It was 1990, 1991, 1992 and 1993 … only 4. It just seemed like more.
Oh stop. We all know there are idiots who drive in snowstorms when they don’t need to. There are also idiots who drive too fast on snow-covered roads and cause accidents. Sometimes the rules are to protect citizens from their own stupidity, and the rules also protect responders who have to risk their lives rescuing the idiots.
Stuck cars were making streets impassable in Buffalo which caused major problems for the responders trying to get to emergency calls like CO alarms, fires, downed trees, downed power lines, and medical emergencies.
Edit: My comment became orphaned, I guess the comment I was responding to was deleted.
I’m an idiot that drives in snowstorms when I don’t have to, because I like to.
But if conditions are anywhere near such that I could present a risk to others in such fashion I stay home, oftentimes because that means others are far more likely to be a risk to myself.
A storm chaser type?
I love weather, driving in snow is peaceful, I have chased a tornado or two in Colorado.
I know I’m supposed to be here because I’ve given God so many opportunities to take me out!
I love going down to the beach during hurricanes and nor’easters. Done it many a time on Long Island and in Florida during hurricanes and tropical storms.
Nature is fascinating, hard to resist isn’t it?
You also have to consider that if your car stalled or got stuck then your car might block a street and make it impassable to responders who need to get through, which is what happened in Buffalo (I know because I was listening to the scanner all night).
I avoid congested areas and am more likely to be providing aid than need it.
an Older Guy that i Have Coffee with ONCE DESTROYED a Buick that was Buried inside a Snow Drift when He was using a Large Michigan Loader to Clear a Road. Bill Said He NEVER FELT the Front End Loader strain.
The road Crew found the Car after the Thaw here in NW Indiana.
People should use common sense and don’t take unnecessary risks.
That being said I still feel people could go out if they need or want to PROVIDED they can fend for whatever situation they can get in (especially when help can be far off)
Some people equate this to the carbon restrictions of the WEF. I think these are a different category.
There won’t be a free choice anymore. Your car simply will not work, or you will have no car at all.
There’s a difference there.
No bird soars too high as long as it is using its own wings.
Like I wrote to Maquis above, another problem of driving in a snowstorm is that you can end up blocking a street if you get stuck. That happened a lot on Friday night in Buffalo. Responders couldn’t get through because streets were blocked with stalled/stuck vehicles. And then the people in the vehicles wanted to be rescued when there were more important calls for the responders to attend to, like medical emergencies, fires, power lines down, etc.
Buffalonians are accustomed to lake-effect snow events. In the past, Bills fans have even dug the players out of their homes so they could get to a football game!
Perhaps they are inured to the dangers? Many just didn’t realize that this storm was ..different. For one, this was a blizzard. And it kept going for days on end.
The Good Lord celebrated my 76th b-day today with a heap of snow.
And for those second guessing and criticizing the actions of victims, you know not what you’re talking about. I ended up with only two feet of snow (the drifts, on the other hand were something else … on the order of six feet ! ). About five miles west of me, at the airport, the official snow was over three feet and five miles south of me it barely hit one foot and further south the results were in mere inches. That’s the nature of lake effect snow … the band of snow may be narrow and intense and a dozen miles away the sun may be shining.
One of the unusual results this time around is that the storm actually lived up to the forecasts … it just kept snowing and snowing in the same place in one wide band … it started mid-Friday morning … by noon most stores closed … so much for grocery and Christmas shopping … and it kept blowing and snowing all day Saturday up to early Sunday morning. What really made this event so bad was the never-ending winds … never-ending tropical force winds of over 40 mph that kept visibility down to zero and also kept piling up snow into monstrous drifts.
Today we were able to get out of the house (two family house) and dig out. Actually we have the entire driveway cleared for both families, though I’ll wait until tomorrow to clear off the pile of snow on my car … no rush … everything’s still closed, though the road has been “cleared” … it’ll probably be another day or so to get it down to clear pavement … yes, unlike other parts of the country, in Western New York we actually plow and plow until all the roads are cleared down to the bare pavement … one of those very rare moments that local governments actually get their jobs done .. I’ve been in other parts of the country where most of the “clearing” of the roads were done by cars running over the snow, compacting it until time and the sun gradually cleared the roads after a few days or weeks.
Happy Birthday to you! 🙂
Happy Birthday AND a Merry Christmas!
My only sister, SHARON, also has Christmas as her birthday.
My official address is Sheridan NY, about 4o miles south of Buffalo but I actually reside in Erie almost all the time. During the winter of 2017- 2018, Erie received 198 1/2 inches of snow. We got pounded with about 5 feet of snow, also on Christmas Eve – Christmas Day. Erie, 104.3 inches, averages more snow every winter than Buffalo, 95.4 inches, or Rochester NY, 102 inches.
Happy Birthday Leon.
My girls brought Harley with them. She is a rescue dog. Glossy black coat and a face and ears that looks like Anubis! She looks like she has some black Lab in her. A beautiful dog. But she was mistreated by a man apparently and is very scared of any male. She would growl at me when I first entered the room where she was. Finally, after days of letting her learn I was not threat in her own time, last night she came to me and gave me kisses and let me pet her.
This thing blew through Iowa Wednesday and Thursday and into Friday with 50 mile per hour winds and wind chill temps below 45 degrees along with enough snow to be interesting. But then again, this is just flyover.
About 10-15 years ago,( in Ames), my son was rescued from his place of employment, in the shovel part of a front end loader…due to massive rains and flooding…it was sometime in the summer…the storms started while he was at work and the roads became impassible…
Yes, Iowa can be brutal….I hope all managed out there.
Iowaegian, I know you meant wind chills of -45. I know because I had that same weather here. It was brutal.
lose power –> move to car –> get stuck –> run out of gas.
(in addition to white outs, salt doesn’t touch ice when the temp gets below double digits.
one bad move and you are caught.)
this was a beast for 48 hours hitting shore.
before satellites this would be a sunk ships weekend.
Annnnnnd the looting begins. Multiple sources, just look up “buffalo looting”. Blue city lawlessness.
Blue?
(Must. Restrain. Self. Truth urge too strong… Argh.)
For now they have an excuse–they all need big screen TVs, expensive electrions, fancy expensive shoes and closthes because its cold.
If stores are being looted, the safest place to keep your stuff is a work clothes store.
Libraries are a close second.
It is STILL snowing there.
https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/buffalo/14202/weather-forecast/349726
https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/buffalo/14202/weather-radar/349726
Can’t help but think what could have been done for these people with all the money that congress just threw to the wind!!
WHEN DO WE START TAKING CARE OF AMERICA(OUR AMERICAN FAMILY?
1 Timothy 5:8 (KJV) 8 But if any provide not for his own, and especially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.”
We all need to hold our fellow Americans in our prayers, especially our Americans who do not have suffiecient resoruses to survive the freezing storms and blizzards in America.
“Buffalo New York is known for its extreme snow and cold weather as an outcome of Lake Erie and the ‘lake effect’ snow created. However, the current artic storm is making even normally bad Buffalo even more dangerous.”
As a resident of said area of WNY, I have to take a bit of exception to the characteristics listed.
“Normally bad Buffalo even more dangerous.”
We here are not “normally bad” as our weather goes. We have winter just like other northern cities in the USA and Canada do. Our reputation for being “bad Buffalo” and WNY weather wise is driven by a few major storms, years apart. Majority of our winter weather are snow events that are resolved easily with no damage other than annoyance at having to navigate slippery streets and roadways. We are well prepared and handle snow very easily when it comes.
However, every few years we have a big storm, that makes headlines across the nation, that drops lake effect snow (which occurs because the lakes are not frozen over yet) mostly to the south of the city in ski country. The city and northern suburbs up to Niagara Falls rarely get copious record amounts of snow. This year, after several mild winters, we have had two major lake effect storms, one to the south and east with little to the north of the city and this one which hit the city square and the northern suburbs and it sat still over those areas for a long time as predicted. To the areas outside the band of lake effect that sat over the city, the snow was minor but the winds were bad as they were across the whole country with this system.
We got a boatload of snow the last two days courtesy of the wind and Lake Erie, no denying and the winds were very active. It was a dangerous storm. But, this is an exceptional case as I stated. We have beautiful summers and it is gorgeous here in the fall and we are NOT buried in snow all year as some people seem to think or even most of the winter. As I said, we are a northern city and area off the lakes and get snow. End of story. The WNY area is given a very unfair and negative rap when descriptive words are used like those at the beginning of this article. It simply paints a picture that is not completely accurate and influences a negative picture of a very nice place.
All areas of the country have their weather negatives. We just happen to have snow in the winter, sometimes a big storm with lots of it, but it isn’t constant nor nearly as bad as other places.. Our houses don’t burn down from forest fires, we rarely have floods, we don’t have hurricanes or tornadoes with their devastating destruction.
If I seem a bit touchy about this subject, I am, after years of unfair press and negative viewpoints promoted by them. We get a bit tired of being made out to be a terrible place to live because of extreme weather conditions that to the public are never ending. Just simply not the whole truth.
Amen! Check my remarks about Buffalo above!
If it could be a top 10 major city over 100 years ago, despite the same weather, there should be no complaints now with better heating and better means of removing snow!
If those that succumbed in vehicles to the frigid temps were driving Bidet/Mattress-championed electric cars/trucks we can use that against the “Greenies”. Hell even if they weren’t we can claim they were to advance our cause after all isn’t that what Democrats do ie. “lie” to promote and enact THEIR agenda. Every vehicle death in this weather event, hell every death in a home must be attributed to “green energy” and the Democrats.
CNN: This extremely cold weather is further proof of global warming.
You knew it was coming! LOL
Emergency blankets should be in everybody’s emergency kit. Heat reflecting Mylar & less than $10 per person to stay alive.
I have them in my truck & in my house.
Two weeks they were warning of this…Seriously? How does anyone die when they were forewarned?
Food shortages/inflation. We were warned. How many never bothered to stock up?
If the vax is anything to go by. 70% of Americans are doomed!
Woman, 82, dies of cold exposure while walking dog outside assisted-living facility in Michigan – mlive.com
I hope her family sues!
In DAYS of OLD Before the Railroads and Highways were Connecting the States – SHIP Traffic would BE HEAVIER than NOW and possibly a Higher Incident Rate.
https://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2006/winter/christmas-tree.html
Lake effect makes for difficult travel anywhere the bands hit. Blinding squalls! In a car it is a tough decision to pull over because somebody behind you may plow into you, or you might get stuck in the margin if the snow drifts high enough. We’ve always just kept moving and survived so that is a blessing (though my brother once flipped his car and had to walk a couple miles home in office clothes–Frosty the Snowman coming in the door). Passenger—that’s me—gets to stick head out the window to keep an eye on the edge of the road. Brr.
Ugly storm. The hard rain, the wind blasts, and the extreme temp drop hit everywhere, but Buffalo got the worst snow—and so much of it drifting around—temps are going to rise in a couple days and a whole new set of problems will present ahead of the New Year. God bless & protect all those involved in rescue and restoration of services.
Global warming. The further anyone goes in any field of endeavor, the more they find how little they really know, humanly that is.
Michael Yon posts:
“A War with Mother Nature” — Good luck, Princess
People freezing to death in their cars. NEVER drive in places like this without trunk gear that includes serious wool from head to toe, and serious sleeping bags in the trunk. For every person we read about who died, a lot more will have lost body-parts to frostbite. Slowly freezing to death is one of the worst ways to go.
War with Mother Nature? I’ll pass. Live with Mother Nature — get 100% wool, and down sleeping bags if you can afford. The best warm-gear is still made by Mother Nature and cannot be mass produced so costs a little more, but is worth it.
Yon is a worthy and vital follow.
Wool keeps you warm even when wet.
Yep, and while mylar reflects heat, it will make you sweat with no way for the moisture to escape, a bad combination that can soak a person and leave them worse off.
I’m seeing this for the first time, and so sad that it had to happen on this day of all days. We here have had our power outages, off and on; not too bad but that sounds like frozen hell to me. We know (up North) that this type of weather is on the way, because it IS winter, but nobody wants to see and hear or feel what they are and have been going through. Especially on Christmas Day of all days.
My heart and prayers go out to all who have been affected b y that latest storm. Hope and pray for the rest of the folks who are in harm way to take care of yourselves today and in the future.
Born and raised in upstate New York, still have family and friends living in the Buffalo area.
This is NOT new or unique.
It’s real, it’s winter, it’s cold and very snowy.
My 79 yr old sister had to cancel Christmas night dinner with my 78 yr. old sister Christmas night due to the snowstorm…both live in that area.
My son went to Gannon University, Erie and then transferred from UCF to University of Buffalo School of Engineering.
It’s was cold, snow, all the time…even 30 years ago. What’s the fuss now?
Thanks be to God for showing us the way to the Southern part of the country in the woods on a lake in a very red state.
AND “no” we did not have any “rolling black-outs”, but I am not certain that all of my perennials survived the single digit temperatures over that last 2 nights.
May 2023 bring only good things to all of my fellow treepers!!!
I was an Alpine and extreme cold weather warrior. I have operated outside in winter in various countries in the Alps, Rockies, out of Barrow, AK, in and in Norway. We weathered the worst storm to hit Bavaria in 10 years when above the tree line on the Zugspitze, which is the highest mountain in Germany. I have Berg Heiled the three highest mountains in Europe. But for my money the place that the cold hurts the worst is New England and upstate NY. There is a character to the cold there that makes it hurt more. Only in Norway of the places mentioned did it come close to what I experienced in the Green Mountains of Vermont.
Random thought about what happens when the world goes cold, and the wisdom of having provisions
“The Worst Year To Be Alive”
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.362.6416.733
Good article, but note this:
When a volcano erupts, it spews sulfur, bismuth, and other substances high into the atmosphere, where they form an aerosol veil that reflects the sun’s light back into space, cooling the planet.
At no point do these churnolists acknowledge that the volcanoes also spewed tremendous amounts of carbon-dioxide, far more than humanity ever has or will, yet the supposed warming effects of this mysterious life-essential gas clearly did not provide any degree of warming whatsoever to counter the cooling created by the aerosols.
CO2 increase has minimal effect as a “greenhouse gas” and lags temperature increases by 700-800 years……400 PPM which is the current TRACE gas amount in our atmosphere is on the low end of historical norms for concentration levels……human activity contributes an estimated 2-3% of the CO2 increase in the atmosphere…..plant life requires a minimum of 150 PPM to even survive and current levels have seen a 30% increase in yields for most plants
I love me some carbon!
What they also ignore is the role volcanism has in warming the oceans.
As for atmospheric CO2, it was just supposed to be the trigger that started irreversible feedbacks that would cause the warming. All modeled based BS. Even the alarmists knew they could not sell the idea that “Greenhouse gases” alone would cause out of control warming. Though they were more than willing to remain silent when know nothing idiots starting talking about the earth turning into another Venus.
One of the essential feedbacks to their doomsday climate model scenario was and still is that permanent hotspots would form in the mid to upper Troposphere over the Tropics. These hot spots were to form because of increased evaporation driving water vapor up into the atmosphere. No such hotspots have been found. A fact that that all the alarmists studiously avoid mentioning. And when I bring it up in an argument with one of them they always try to change the subject.
This so horrible. Prayers for all affected.
I don’t understand. It seems like to me the ATC would have supplies, generators, and be prepared? Kinda sad to risk EMS to get them out, can’t they sleep on the floor? What kind of air control tower are we talking about? It’s Buffalo. Here nor there, feel bad for all concerned.
I remember last year the Iceageddon on New Years caught everyone by surprise. A “wintry mix” caused over 4,000 trees to go down. One of the stranger things I have witnessed driving around. Creepy Senator Kaine was trapped in his car on 95 so he had to deal like the rest of the citizens. For once no special treatment for a gov’t crook was about the only positive from that storm.
Even creepy clowns are nervous around Kaine.
Right? Direct support care for people with disabilities who can’t be left alone are sometimes stuck in place during ice storms.
I did this work for awhile and one winter shift, the assigner told me that if I got up that hill to the apartment, it would probably be another day at least before I could be relieved and get home. As someone whose children are grown, and husband can look after himself, I said fine. It turned out to be a double shift before someone could come relieve me. The client was not dangerous so I was okay if I got sleepy in a recliner.
How the airport crew could not have been prepared to be stuck, is surprising.
Exactly, save it for those in danger and/or need it. You are a good person for doing what you did.
My sister was an ATC, her first tower was very small and they were prepared for emergency situations, and the next airport she worked out of was much bigger and they were prepared. This was years ago. Their biggest concern was getting sleep so they could be bright and alert for the next shift, if planes were in the air. Other than that they are to be healthy people that can be buttercups for a day or two.
One year a plane of Saudi’s flew in and when they learned they had a woman for a controller they demanded to be given a man. The tower said sorry, she is all you have, land or move on. They landed. LOL! That would never happen these days.
Solar minimum on the way, real physics not Climate BS, welcome to the next mini ice age
Not to worry, everyone. This is all Trump’s & his supporters’ faults. As soon as we make reparations to the rest of the world for America’s damage to the climate, this bad weather will all go away.
I wish I was being sarcastic.
Aside from the horror of the human tragedy, anyone espousing green energy…windmills, solar panels etc., should take a look at the photo of Buffalo digging out.
They should, but won’t. Even if they did they would never admit to it.