Displaying some of the most insufferable logic imaginable, four Republican senators voted against reinstating military members who were discharged for refusal to get vaccinated.
Apparently, according to the logic provided, Congress can select the location for the military to engage, select the weapons they can use, select their commanding officers who will lead their engagement, select the method, manner and purpose of their deployment…. yet, when it comes to requiring vaccinations, Congress must defer to military leadership.
Apparently, the concept of “civilian lead military oversight,” does not apply when it comes to forced COVID-19 vaccination. Sorry, but these Republican senators are intellectually dishonest idiots.
(Via Daily Signal) – Four Republican senators voted Thursday against reinstating military members who were discharged for refusing to get vaccinated against COVID-19.
Mitt Romney of Utah, Mike Rounds of South Dakota, Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, and Susan Collins of Maine voted against Republican Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson’s amendment that would have reinstated and provided backpay to military members discharged for refusing to get vaccinated.
Johnson sought to amend the 2023 National Defense Authorization Act, which passed the Senate, 83-11, Thursday night. Though this amendment failed, Republicans were able to include a provision in the NDAA that halts the Department of Defense from forcing service members to get the COVID-19 vaccine.
“These were direct orders from commanding officers,” Cassidy said in a statement to The Daily Signal on the vaccine mandate. “I voted to end the COVID vaccine mandate in the military, but it is not Congress’s place to intervene in the chain of command and set a precedent for military personnel to ignore direct orders.” (read more)
Romney, Collins and even Cassidy are not necessarily a surprise. However, Mike Rounds seems to have provided further evidence of his DeceptiCon bonafides with this vote. You might remember CTH discussing something particularly sketchy surfacing in the federal politics of South Dakota. Well, here comes Mike Rounds to put the proverbial cherry on that sketchy suspicion. {GO DEEP}
[January 2022] – […] Senator John Thune, Senator Mike Rounds and Governor Kristi Noem all suddenly appear in the headlines and on television, and all positioning for political influence.
For such a small state, that is 100% owned by the Wall Street multinational agricultural industry, it’s a rather remarkable coincidence, no?
“Once you see the strings”…
Romney and Collins have GOT to go!
Hey, hey! Ho, ho! LBJ has got to go!
(I just had a flashback)
OMG, I remember that and I was one of those chanting that!
Unfortunately, I was in the Army around that time and would have got in big trouble if I had chanted that. Also, I was young and stupid back then so didn’t want to chant it anyway.
I was a Dem back then, you know one of those baby boomer “leftist” which today makes me a conservative. Hey I hope you don’t hate me. I had relatives and friends who were there with you. I did not protest them, just the war. I am anti-war…one of the main reasons I voted for Trump…his non-interventionist policies. Thank you for serving.
Why would I hate you?
You were right and I was wrong back then.
Get out of the past and be hardened. It’s time folks!
All four candidates to be …”disappeared”. I’ve had it up to here with repugs wankers…
Someone PLEASE ask those four MORONS to explain the difference between a LAWFUL order and an UNLAWFUL order and what obligation a member of the military has to obey an UNLAWFUL order.
We now live in a nation of men, not laws … … … unfortunately.
Romney isn’t a man.
Maybe also ask if Hugh Thompson should have been discharged for disobeying orders and blowing the whistle on the Mai Lai massacre in Vietnam…
Did the massively corrupt, senile, puppet, pervert scumbag as pseudo-CINC ever ORDER the vaccinations because due to the Gulf War anthrax drug fiasco, mandating the use of experimental drugs on service members is ILLEGAL.
And of course no mention that they and the rest of the honorable compadres in Congress were not required to take the vaccine. Why is that?. Pray and help others
“These were direct orders from commanding officers”
THAT then would have been an ILLEGAL order. I think the only way it would be legal if it was a specific order by the Brandon pseudo-CINC and maybe not even then.
Experimental drugs used by military
MAY 13, 2020
https://militaryveteransofdisqus.org/experiment-drugs-used-by-military/
Since the passage of the BioShield Act, Congress has continued to support the FDA’s authority to make unapproved drugs available in response to new threats. In 2017, the Department of Defense sought power to unilaterally authorize use of unapproved drugs in battlefield situations. In the face of FDA objections to this level of autonomy, Congress created a compromise measure memorialized in a Memorandum of Understanding that allows the Department of Defense broad authority to declare the need for emergency use permission and request that the FDA “take actions to expedite the development of a medical product.” But final authority to issue an emergency use order rests with the president.
Are Memorandums of Understanding mentioned in the Constitution or the Bible?
Just another reason (among so many) why I refuse to donate a single cent via WINRED to the GOP. Corrupt as hell and selfish beyond being traitors. Too many stay silent. Where are the courageous patriots, who’ll stand up despite taking crap from the media and the yellow bellied tax suckers among them?
So many of the men who signed the Declaration of Independence paid for it with their fortunes, their businesses, their social respect, and even their lives. If we depend much longer on these nematodes who occupy Congress we will be (forcibly) saluting a different flag before long.
Preach it my brother! I stand next to you. When all seems lost, you have nothing left to lose!
Nematodes have more honor than a Romney.
Romney is a pus sucking maggot on his best day! This is NOT name calling, just fact. He’d sell your son or daughter down the river to this woke military in the blink of an eye. When I was young and dumb I voted for him for Gov of Assachusetts bc he was a “republican” HA! He would feed off your carcass if he could.
Romney -who he himself and his family will never participate in the military- should shut his mouth and take seat.
He and his RINO fools are putting the Nation in danger.
How exactly do the feel about illegals allowed to go unvaccinated as they are seeded across the country?
The evil is real and planted in the DC Swamp.
At least Romney doesn’t have a family member running the RNC…
Oh, wait…
That’s a real battleground….oh, wait…
Back in the day, the Romney family fled to Mexico so they could continue their polygamy. That is the measure of their morality.
And they were Democrats one and all.
They still have a compound down there, no? Didn’t some family member of his clan get bushwhacked in an SUV a couple years ago?
And what else?
Mormonism: my Momma is my sister, didn’t hurt me none!
Do the illegals who are fast tracked into military service in order to gain citizenship forced to take the arm drugs?
Great question.
They seem to be exempt from it as they pour in over the border. Probably given Ivermectin prevention packs, along with their FJB preprogrammed phones.
Could FJB suddenly reinstate the draft as the recruitment numbers are down, and he is itching to fight Putin?
Amazing how these people can sleep at night, look at themselves in the mirror or walk the streets of their home state without feeling shame.
What do their spouses, children and friends think of them?
They must be getting plenty of money to line their pockets or they’re being threatened and blackmailed or they’re just plain scum.
Sociopaths can do that with the greatest of ease. It is inate in them.
It’s time!
Just plain Scum.
Hmm. Methinks it is the latter. And looking at Collins in the picture makes me think she does not look in the mirror anymore. It might blow her brains out. I know it hurt mine.
Should not go back anyway.
You can serve your family by staying at home and these losers can go to Ukraine.
I can’t imagine wanting to fight on the side of the literal Satan-worshipping West in this conflict.
I do understand, on the other hand, that too many families and individuals are unaware of this dismal, dark fact.
Either fight for America, or join the U.S. military and fight for the Deep State Satanists. The choice is that clear.
Lindsey Graham will personally lead all volunteers who want to go to the front lines in Ukraine.
Well, maybe not personally. But he will be with them in spite.
From behind.
😜
Lindsey was a USAF lawyer. Need I say more.
Like DeScented.
Yep, they’ll be safe at home while the jabbed are sent to die for the uniparty’s money laundering operation in Ukraine.
And not return.
They wouldn’t have done this without Mitch’s approval. How do we get him out of office? Please, anyone from KY here…what can we do?
Are there no marksman in his state?
First thing is to get Rand Paul to quit supporting him in reelection.
Yes! What the hell is the matter with Rand Paul?
It’s like the seniors on the football team are making big mistakes causing the team to loose games, but the coach keeps them in because they are friends of his cheerleading son.
And what did we expect? Mitt Romney and Susan Collins are not worth a circumcised foreskin. Sorry Ladies, but truth wins over gossip!
As a reserve military officer who is unvaccinated I am appalled these Senators would vote against.
From the article,
““These were direct orders from commanding officers,” Cassidy said in a statement to The Daily Signal on the vaccine mandate. “I voted to end the COVID vaccine mandate in the military, but it is not Congress’s place to intervene in the chain of command and set a precedent for military personnel to ignore direct orders.”“
Cassidy knows, or should know, the order was/is illegal because the vaccine mandated to military members has always been EUA. Even when the vaccine was supposedly “FDA approved” the military has never had FDA approved and labeled vaccine stock. Members were ordered to be vaccinated with EUA vaccines, many times under duress. EUA vaccines can not be lawfully mandated according to Federal law. The interchangeability memo, was never legal, and has subsequently been rescinded. It is the duty of every single military member to question illegal orders. It is the duty of Congress to provide oversight and accountability.
Also remember that even after the mandate is gone service members who are unvaccinated may still face continued discrimination. Certainly members that have already been discharged need support and Congress should ensure the DoD is held accountable for the injustice.
I really wish Sundance would have done a deep dive on the issue. It is a story worth telling.
Disclaimer – The views expressed are those of the author and do not reflect the official policy or position of the Department of Defense or the US Government.
How dare Cassidy
vote (cough)
to end the vaxx mandate??!!!
That totally conflicts “direct orders”
of
“commanding officers”.
-phony scumbag
Jeez, how long can this enfeebled Republican Party endure? Take the conservative rump, add a younger core of empathetic candidates and grow a new party.
It will be tough at the beginning, but the way things are going there could be a snowball effect of rapid popularity. Unless Trump is the 2024 candidate, might as well
expose and sabotage the system and pick up the pieces for the future.
Tradition is not working and is camouflage for the corrupt status quo.
Never voting in their phony rigged elections again.
But if I did, it would NEVER be for a Republican or a Democrat. The Uniparty is all they offer to voters. We, whose eyes are open, have no representation in the government. A new Constitutional Patriot party is desperately needed.
Sadly, all we hear from Trump is “buy my digital trading cards”! What a pathetic joke! We are well and truly screwed. 😠
Apparently you missed his speech shortly after the DTF announcement.
“all we hear from Trump is “buy my digital trading cards”
Really?
It was over within a few hours…
What is that Collins hag thinking with that dress? All that money and she can’t find something that fits? TMI all around. Hideous.
I thought, “Why show that belly button roll of fat if you don’t HAVE too.?”
At least she didn’t wear her tube top, this time. Maybe she lent it to “Dr.” Jill!
I wondered if anyone would mention that. Geez, are her undergarments too small? You’re right. Hideous.
did uniparty beautie -collins- making a signal with her outrageous dress…?????
We need our real patriots at home.
I wonder if Collins got Maine lobstermen out of death row with her vote?
They are as Republican as Hillary Clinton, as with McCain. A turd by any other name is still a turd.
And people wonder why voters only vote GOP with their noses pinched.
Put all of these eeejits on a 1 way flight to Jalalabad.
I will wager $1,000 that none of them are vaxxed and boosted. This mandate has no scientific basis. The arrogance of these four is stunning.
These F’N PUKES have just demonstrated without a doubt they are in the pockets of the Chicoms who want nothing more than to destroy our military. If every single one of them is not at least primaried, if not prosecuted for treason, along with every traitor in the COC who inflicted this upon our military….
Romney and Collins aren’t Republicans. Haven’t been for a very long time. I imagine that the other two follow suit.
Like so many Republicans, can’t believe voted for that RINO idiot Romney.
They cast their votes without the slightest concern for what their voters might prefer.
We need representatives and senators who have not forgotten their voters in their wish to impress their own mistaken views on others.
you can’t get that.
drop that illusion and start considering that a protest centralized around a present significant event and throughout the country in multiple counties at once – Might be something to consider as you think things over.
Susan Collins has guts.….maybe a little girdle would help.
Maybe she could borrow Romney’s special, magic undies.
Was thinking the same thing! Have girdles completely gone out of style.
If you are a member of the national at this point you are part of the problem and not the solution.
Do NOT join the national Republican Club. Join a local and make your America First opinion known. And do what you can to break the individual club silos by networking with other clubs.
This is going to take time and effort to turn this thing around and it won’t happen without you.
Trivia…
Q: Which senators took money from Sam Bankman-Fried?
The same ones that take money from George Soros.
OOOHHH… I have to go on Open Secrets and find that one out! But I think Soros is such a partisan, he only gave to Democrats. Let me check…
YES!!! 100% to Democrats! At least in the last cycle.
Mitt’s father fought against Ronald W. Reagan, a President who wanted to make a Strong America. Mitt’s Father also used his power and influence to have his son avoid service in the Vietnam War.
Mitt fought against Donald John Trump, a President who wanted to Make America Great Again. Mitt’s Children have NO RECORD OF EVER SERVING THE ARMED FORCES AFTER 9/11.
Just pointing out a pattern of the Romney Family…
I wouldn’t expect anything less from this type of people.
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”
— JFK (1962)
First, let me say that Susan Collins needs to wear spandex undergarments to hide that unsightly flab.
It ties into the fact that she and the other men don’t care what we think.
This is appalling and once again my senator Wrong-Way Romney, humiliates his state of Utah.
We have to write and protest, and call, and make a huge stink about this.
Crank up the White Rose stickers that got placed everywhere during the pandemic.
got to pick a bigger event to rally behind that affects the most people – anger, passion, loss of control
Sheer evil
They’re all showing you who they are everyday
I hope they are all jabbed and triple boosted. And I hope they experience all the known side effects.
The 4 Cons.
Why can’t they just admit that the vax does not work. The local news broadcast, without any hint of a glimmering light bulb in their empty heads, that our male zoo lion has covid, but not to worry the lion and all the females are vaxed AND boosted.
I am so angry with the power mad politicians. I used to think a new state would be good. Now I think a new country is our only hope.
Here’s the link…https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/seneca-park-zoos-chester-the-lion-tests-positive-for-covid/ar-AA15mvS5
I am a Constitutional Independent because of crap like this. I will never throw my vote away again by voting for the lesser of two evils. If a RINO is running against Satan, I will vote for Satan.
BUT you are voting for Satan either way — RINOs are satin in an ill fitting dress or suit, NO difference.
I see this as even larger than the obviously vital vaccine problem.
The Republican Party is signaling that they don’t intend to ‘win’ on any issue, no matter the importance to their base or to the country. They’re telling us not to bother with making a fuss. They’ve already surrendered on our behalf.
Well that just killed my meatloaf and mashed ‘tater buzz..
Ugh, when do we get our pound of flesh.
I’m absolutely tired of the scabs.
Susan Collins must be borrowing outfits from Jilly Beans..
Why am I not surprised at these four???
Recently had an opportunity to give an opinion to a high school senior considering a military career ….. NOT NOW, not with the current corrupt, woke bunch who don’t seem to give any thought or care regarding the lives of the HUMANS in the military.
They don’t care about humans.
Or canines either.
Remember the ruling creeps abandoned military dogs in Afghanistan
Get rid of them.
Hate them all
It. Is. Time!
My newly minted son-in-law reports for basic on 1-9-23. We tried pointing out what he was getting himself into, but between his gen-z thought pattern and the $40k enlistment/MOS bonuses he said “where do I sign”.
Good luck getting the sign on bonus….I know a guy who is owed over 30k after almost 2 years back pay and promo pay
So when the shooting starts may karma put these slugs in the sight picture of those they just sh*t on.
Tomorrow’s Update + Day’s Focus will be this story.
It has videos + Donate links for 2 veteran’s sites a couple of people recommended as worthy here in the Trump Open Thread.
Below the 2 videos — I put the contact + messaging links for the turncoats.
I’ll repost this when I wake up + tomorrow’s open threads are up.
Pass it around if you like.
https://giwe.us/Vets/index.html
The repulicants not voting were just as bad !
And Rand Paul opposed doing away with the shot !
Let’s face it ,useless humans !
Such BS. The Commanding Officers don’t have a choice about the Covid19 vaccine mandate crap. The vax records were reported weekly to the Pentagon and for any command < 100% vaccinated the COs were ordered to follow the CNOs NAVADMIN directing all of the negative consequences including discharge. This is absolutely not as simple as “refusing a CO’s orders” Cassidy you freak.
One of the few things holding the line and preventing the loss of experience from the senior enlisted and officer corps is the stay issued on the Navy Seals case.
Thank you! You get it!
Most posting here have not served, not a slam to any Treepers, just absolutely obvious by comments that there truly is very little insight into the life of those who have chosen to serve. Yes, it is a choice.
There are Outstanding folks serving, and I know many.
I get the Upper Echelon negative comments, and agree.
I ask that folks just think and discern.
Maybe a little less scorn for the rank and file.
That is all! Carry on!
Peace to all, and Merry Christmas.
You also get it!
“There are Outstanding folks serving, and I know many.
I get the Upper Echelon negative comments, and agree.”
I have not read any of the comments.
With that said… Short & simple…
As a US Marine, Honorably Discharged, while No longer on active duty, I say they can, “K.M.A.” …
( If ya don’t know that acronym I just used above, look it up. )
Kind of tired of these POS.
Grrrr…
‘Nuff said here by me.
Ten years, followed by 15 on the circuit doing some Gov contracts.
I also used to encourage interested aspirants to enlist
Stopped doing it completely.