The political branding and campaign team behind Florida Governor Ron DeSantis have structured a “Win with Ron 2024” strategy constructed around the politicization of the COVID-19 vaccine. Yesterday, the team launched the effort through the governor’s office [Details Here].
The polarizing federal vaccine and mask mandates continue to create an opportunity for exploitation by political interests. The WWR ’24 team see the opportunity within the republican base for Ron DeSantis to create a 2024 lane by presenting himself in alignment with medical autonomy in a similar vein that a candidate might create with strong support for the second amendment.
To accomplish this brand strategy, the people around DeSantis need to pretend the Florida Governor did not advocate for lockdowns and vaccines in 2020 and 2021; even going so far as to threaten the liquor licenses for non-compliant bars and restaurants. Through a series of continuous and carefully organized drumbeats surrounding the later held position on medical freedom and autonomy, the WWR24 team attempt to rewrite history in advance of his 2024 GOP nomination announcement.
The branding and image strategy for Ron DeSantis has been carefully mapped since early 2022 and includes the coy game of pretending to be above the national political fray while simultaneously dropping into national political issues at carefully constructed moments.
COVID-19 has been poll-tested amid the base of the republican party and positions have been established based on surveyed responses. That’s the background for a rollout that took place yesterday in Florida complete with the creation of a Florida Public Health Integrity Committee. The Florida governor grabs headlines by asking for a state grand jury to “hold the federal government and Big Pharma accountable.”
The ‘medical freedom‘ rollout yesterday included a simultaneously timed 2024 election primary poll showing DeSantis with the highest favorability rating.
As noted within the announcement, “Governor DeSantis has filed a petition to impanel a statewide grand jury to investigate crimes and wrongs in Florida related to the COVID-19 vaccines and further recommend enforcement methods.” Notably absent from the announcement was his own culpability promoting the same programs he now rails against. This hypocrisy is the calling card of political engineering.
Steve Bannon began to weave some of this together earlier today, while being careful not to offend the Cruzbots DeSantis-bots, Harmeet Dhillon sycophants. You can watch Bannon carefully narrate this dynamic in the video below.
However, I have pledged not to participate in the insufferable pretending – so I am being more direct.
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In addition to the organized, televised and highly publicized DeSantis panel PR rollout, which I will note was not needed unless the goal was to enhance public visibility for the enterprise – a staged performance, the team managing DeSantis had a prescheduled follow-up with the assist from Rupert Murdoch, Fox News and Laura Ingraham. {Direct Rumble Link} WATCH:
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Previously Rupert Murdoch offered the WWR24 team to support their efforts throughout all his media companies including Fox News, Fox Business, New York Post, and the Wall Street Journal.
In addition, the billionaire who considers himself kingmaker for the GOP has given DeSantis an unknown number of millions for his book contract with Murdoch owned Harper Collins publishing house.
…. Once you see the strings on the marionettes, you can never watch the puppet show and not see them.
I called this out yesterday and got cussed out for it by the Bannonites.
There’s nothing that could possibly become of this beyond pure political conjecture to manipulate the ignorant.
Also, stop defending Bannon, he’s a party shill and professional propagandist with no answer besides “elect more Republicans”…
Bannon got booted by Trump. End of story.
“End of story”.
Stopped reading ” the story” in 2017?
Fortunately “the story” didnt end. Like many people, Bannon continues to live and learn and grow.
Thank you for inspiring me to pray for him and for all those who stop reading a Never Ending Story believing they already know it all.
100 % Agree
Bannon seems cautious about DeDaintis, recalling all the hoopla about WI Governor Walker, the presumptive nominee until he came up against the machine and Trump came down the escalator.
Way too early to know what’s what. But honestly, Trump is up there in years, good to have a backup.
DeSantis is not maga backup. Reason being he voted for TPP to end USA’s economic sovereignty. He is a poser.
And the “Club” knows DeSantis can be manipulated.
There is only ONE President Trump, nothing even close………….backup? Yeah………
Sadly, Mr. DeSantis is more of the same old, same old…….
Disappointingly so
DeSantis is a heavy Paul Ryan.
Fortunately there ARE backups that aren’t Establishment controlled like Guv Ron.
No matter what the Swamp does, the MAGA Save America choice will be Trump 2024:
Father or son; Eric or Don.
4 more years or 8.
Bannon got booted by Trump because they are both egomaniacs and wanted things done their way. I listen to Bannon every day, he is constantly backing Trump, but he’s not a sycophant. BTW, what is the alternative to “electing more Republicans”? There’s only two political parties and DJT decided not to start a third party. Having said that, I will happily be voting for DJT in 2024, if he’s not in jail by then. Agree with Sundance that DeSantis is a hypocrite. One thing you can say for DJT: he doesn’t back down and he stays true to his principles.
President Trump is so “egomaniac” thay he gave up his comfortable life to serve his Country.
🙄
And took no salary for his troubles.
Well put. One of many sacrifices he and his family endured at the hands of the demonic cult, destroying everything in it’s wake.
DeSantis is backed by globalists that want to destroy maga like they did the tea party. If elected we would go back to Bush style politics.
DeSantis has never really backed Trump. Not sure how he figures trump supporters will turn around and back DeSantis?
Rinos, media, and fox are all pushing for DeSantis. Why is no one considering why? Maybe because he is underneath one of them?
Regardless… this is not going to end well either way.
They pretend not to know or understand the support President Trump really has. They believe their propaganda.
Bannon wants one thing: War with China or more precisely he wants to depose Xi Jinpeng. Cuibono?
Only AFTER the Covid 19 lockdowns and mRNA (vaccine) mass formation psychosis has passed its moment Ron goes on the mRNA is bad attack
At the end of the mRNA is bad campaign is Operation Warp Speed and Trump
Of course, Trump was literally being impeached during Covid, and if he went outside his Presidential Competency and claimed Covid was a scamdemic and mRNA faulty and dangerous Mike Pence and his RINOs would of 25th him and we would still be in lockdowns
mRNA was and is bad. The LOCKDOWNS are massively worse.
Also, if mRNA hadn’t injured so many, a very large percentage of the world would still be VACCINE lovers.
mRNA red pilled millions onto the dangers of the vaccine industry and created more anti-vaxxers than any other event in history.
The lockdowns where going to last 5-10 years. Seriously, imagine the complete havoc and totalitarian nightmare that would be our world if the LOCKDOWNS continued for 5 years.
Trump’s Operation Warp Speed got us through the scamdemic faster than any nation.
China is still in ZERO Covid lockdown
The endgame of the scamdemic is Resident Ron RINO 47
notice how also, medical freedom is narrowly confined
its not freedom from Big Pharma or the scam of modern corporate medicine
its freedom from one narrow element of the Big Pharma medical complex
its also a recent territory, i.e forced vaccinations, that’s so obviously totalitarian it looks like a major victory when we are “free” to use mRNA and other big pharma scam products like Regeneron
ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine cost pennies and have a long history of success
mRNA needs to be trashed as a dangerous scam, but Ron will never go after Big Pharma in any meaningful way
it will be some virtue signalling BS like Mitch holding up a rifle and then sending 100 billion to Ukraine and US factories to his wife family in China
RINO Rino Ron
you should see the crap answers one has to put on a continuing medical education test to get an educational certificate which one has to have for a medical license
another indoctrination and forced compliance scheme. No one knows the correct answers but the experts force compliance. same old same old.
This comment hit me hard.
I don’t think Trump knew these Jabs would be dangerously toxic, but he did know these evil FILTHY LIBERALS would lock us down for years until they developed a “vaccine”.
I can only hope President Trump has a detailed Plan, that will destroy these “institutions” forever. CIA, FBI, NSA, DHS, TSA, IRS, FISA Courts have to be Destroyed, NOT REFORMED!. If nothing else can be done, this has to be completed ahead of schedule.
I can’t wait for Mitch’s funeral. He has done more harm to your great country than anyone I can think of. I would spit in his face if I could. God Bless America.
To understand President Trumps Operation Warp Speed perhaps watch:
You Tube. Movie clip. Hunt for Red October. Scene. Combat tactics, Mr Ryan.
How did the sub survive after inescapable torpedoes were launched at it? By ACFELERATING towards the torpedoes so they hit the sub before they were fully operational.
Inescapable torpedoes == NWO vaccines; the Trojan Horse for vaccine passports and a CCP style Surveillance State.
Preeident Trumps Operation Warp Speed ACCELERATED the NWO time line so the vaccines “hit” in 10 MONTHs rather than the 10 YEARs.
Thank God for President Trumps genius and courage.
Great comment.
You forget to mention a key subtext to that scene: the tactic only works once.
Another way of saying “you only get one shot at this”.
There are some really nasty commenters on the RAV chat for War Room. I also called Ron ” Rhetoric Ron ” and got called out but there are still some Trump supporters on there.
Oh and how exactly is Ole Ron Going to handle them big Pharma Donors?
Well, a Florida grand jury is investigating Big Pharma for pushing hormone therapy on children. That’s more than President Trump ever did!
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/florida-subpoenas-nearly-two-dozen-orgs-pushing-hormones-transgender-surgeries-children
I don’t remember Trump ever telling me to get the jab, but I do remember Ron DeSantis doing so and being horrified by it.
If Trump does not win the nomination, no matter who does, I will be writing in “Donald J Trump” on my ballot in 2024.
I’ll be doing the same.
And the machines will misteriously assign the vote to …
Gavin Newsome
Gavin would beat DeSantis even without cheating. Trust me, I have a knack at predictions.
A realist👏🏻👻
the RINO or the Demo
depending on the back room deal
Ron is a RINO and didn’t do anything about election fraud, why? because he is a beneficiary
Exactly 💯 💯
No. But do you remember Trump creating Warp Speed? Or approving lockdowns? Or signing the legislation which gave eventual rise to the EUA and the resulting tyranny? Or have you memory holed that? Don’t get me wrong. I love PDJT. But the elephant in the room exists. It all began under his watch. He could have stopped it. But he didn’t. And, he’s never backed off his support for the jabs. So.
Dude, no, stop it.
Hang in there, Eric. This kind of post will earn you the proverbial slings and arrows, but after a while, being called a troll kind of loses its punch. Here you have gone to the heart of why millions of us have our doubts about DJT.
Because you’re a Democrat?
Warp speed was all the above to include therapeutics, vaccines, devices to help U.S.A. with pandemic. He was told that these mRNA therapeutics were vaccines and were only approved as EUA as therapeutics after the election. It was the Biden CDC that changed the definition of ‘vaccine’ to fit these therapeutics and started mandating it! Every time DJT mentioned effective alternative therapeutics, all attacked because if alternative effective inexpensive drugs worked then no EUA. It was all stacked against him, because damned if you and damned if you don’t!
Maria, I applaud your attempt to inject facts, but even here, many prefer the msm lies. Sad and disappointing.
Perhaps more time READING Treehouse, less time “COMMENTING would help.
Yes. Facts.
Insights into the holes in the statistical analysis performed by big pharma and known deleterious effects identified by Dr Malone were in the public domain well before Warp Speed was implemented.
IMO, a well intentioned President was played. The need to act superseded everything. Expressed another way – a full risk analysis was never conducted. Covid, IMO, was no accident.
I completely agree.
Good post Eric. You make very good points. This is a huge problem for President Trump and will be very difficult for him to overcome in the primaries. I’m not sure he can. It won’t just be DeSantis but other candidates as well that will try to hang his Covid response around his neck.
President Trump never agreed with mandates. That’s entirely on the democrats. He provided a ‘right to try’ option to the idiots who just couldn’t live without it. And there are many of those.
They all demanded the shots because they listen too much to social media and fake news. Another reason to abandon that stuff entirely.
Nonsense in one key respect.
The problem with Covid response was the lack of competent, honest risk analysis across multiple functional domains (i.e., to include allowing the CDC to basically run the economy).
We find common agreement on unacceptability of mandates. An ironic view when one thinks of it as a “pro choice” option but I digress. Experimental drugs use approval, after proper vetting, has long been an accepted medical practice for those sitting at the terminal/high risk end of the spectrum. AIDS treatment being a perfect example. The ball was dropped when it came to providing the American people with a full risk analysis in support of a non-mandatory approach. That was not PDJT’s fault – but it also was not his priority.
Do you remember Candidate Trump being honest about the risks of infant vaccines? I do. And he immediately was hit by pharma-supporting opposition and stopped talking about it. He might not have won in 2016 if he had kept speaking up about something that a lot of people have come up against — adverse effects to infant and toddler vaccines.
Interestingly, Epoch Times had an article recently linking acetaminophen doses to neurological damage in infants, whether the doses were given following circumcision or following vaccinations. Have you seen this?
Italian medical journal, Minerva Pediatrics
https://www.minervamedica.it/en/journals/minerva-pediatrics/article.php?cod=R15Y9999N00A22071303
There is a typo in this law firm’s header. However it has more information about the risks of Tylenol to babies:
https://harmanlaw.com/blog/what-you-need-to-know-about-tylenol-autism/
President Trump was being told by “experts” hundreds of millions would die if he did not take action. Trump is not a medical expert and he trusted these evil people.
My view as well.
With the exception that the information was in the public domain (e.g., Dr Malone’s concerns) well before the decision process unfolded. There was also, at the time, plenty of folks calling into question the suspect quality (as well as politicization) of the modeling underlying the dire mortality predictions.
Trump was required by law to delegate responsibility for the pandemic to a task force of medical experts headed by Mike Pence
Trump’s Presidential COmpetency did not extend to pandemics
HE would of been 25th’d or impeached if he went against the medical establishment, corrupt as it is
Try it yourself, seriously, take on big pharma or the HMO’s or the CDC
Operation Warp Speed got us through the lockdowns in 18 months, with optional vaccines. Trump promoted optional vaccines and a VERY SHORT lockdown (because that was what the medical experts recommended)
Trump was being impeached during Covid
11 March2020WHO/U.S. Pandemic declarations: China leverages WHO/Tedros proxy for pandemic declaration to trigger usurpation of Title II Executive authorityChina leverages its WHO/Tedros proxy to declare SARS outbreak a pandemic triggering US COG laws, drawing into conflict “presidential competence” & triggering the US mechanism to permit the usurpation of President Trump’s Title II Executive authority
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https://politicalmoonshine.com/2021/09/29/covid-19-enterprise-fraud-construct-timeline-major-dates-events-entities-legislation/
My guess is Ron Resident 47 was the endgame of the Scamdemic Plandemic and played his part
Only Trump really fought for FREEDOM and had the COURAGE to be free
Ron is a Swamp creature
Thank God for Operation Warp Speed. It was a logistics miracle that only Trump could have pulled off.
Without vaccines being available lockdowns would still be happening.
NWO == 10 YEARs of lock downs before rolling out their vaccines.
OWS == justification for lock downs ended in 10 MONTHs.
By accelerating the NWOs schedule, President Trump gave humanity a fighting chance to wake up, savvy up and resist. The NWO wanted to wait for vaccine and passport rollouts until resistance was futile.
Thank God for Operation Warp Speed. Trump was right. Again.
Weak effort.
Try harder.
My problem with all of this as well – selective memory.
Lest we forget, the individual charged with operationalizing Warp Speed opposed deployment based on uncertainties about the statistical analysis of vaccine long-term effects and actual data on deleterious effects. This person was summarily replaced.
Ditto.
I remember the same thing
Me too!
And so will I.
Issue in the state?
Governors and Presidents have different zones of influence.
medicine is controlled by the state Governors
I would much rather have a border and a job than a Florida grand jury on hormone meds
How could President Trump investigate something that hadn’t happened while he was President.
Do you mistakenly imagine Guv Ron is leading the way on “investigating Big Pharma? Other states, individuals and organizations have been doing and continue to do this for a long time.
Hopefully those who are unaware of these trail blazers so they fell for the coordinated Ron hyping campaign will be more cautious about the media pundits and influencers they follow.
One positive to this machiavellian PR stunt is
the Establishments internal polling must suggest the media tranced normies are starting to wake up about the Scamdemic.
A few minor chessboard pieces are sacrificed in order to win the big game.
A carefully managed stunt like sending a handfull of inmigrants to Marta’s Vineyard. Since the public attention span is that of a mosquito it works ALL THE TIME.
What has Trump dome to push back against Big Pharma? You guys know I am not a troll. We MUST remain strong and resolute independent of thought. We are the critical thinkers. There is no short term political fix. I don’t give a good goddamn if its RDS or Trump. We are the problem solvers not them. NONE!!
Apologies for writing this. I mean no disrespect to anyone.
GD right!
the mRNA issue is also still a minority position
many GOPe and MAGA are mRNA and vaccine lovers
many GOPe and MAGA are basically normies
I guess Ron’s big innovation is, free choice
so, its a big deal Ron is for freedom, that’s somehow new and amazing
as Trump says, who would of thought, its controversial to be for parents rights, or the flag, or police or for women sports
these are all fake wedge issues introduced by the UniParty to make us fight over insane fringe social issues and forget about the invasion from the southern border and the China Cartel controlling the country
where is Ron on the Cartels and China?
eff off Ron
With new evidence unfolding and much more to come, along with the roll-out of AI this weekend while everyone’s eyes are upon the twitter file distractions… Ron is just playing politics getting ahead of what’s to come.
Our world will be looking quite different come election time… there will be no one other than DJT to turn this around with proven experience. Sorry… he is the only real candidate. Yep, eff off Ron.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/people-died-mrna-vaccine-damaged-hearts-new-peer-reviewed-german-study-provides-direct
A little more on that AI comment:
https://openai.com/
just changed the automation in the whole world .. this isn’t just a small thing. It starts a shift now in the strategies of our leaders. #1 advocate Elon Musk. They just wiped out a whole bunch of jobs. Covers up a collapsing economy and people unemployed and they put in place a technology that covers the tracks of all the people dying from the shot. AI can cover human jobs. Funny how no one is talking.
When did Elon Musk leave Open AI?
“Musk left the company’s board in February last year. OpenAI, co-founded by billionaire Musk in 2016, this week demonstrated software able to generate authentic-looking fake news based on a few pieces of information.”
If RD wins the nomination, you know we have 4 more years of pedo. He aint gonna win no matter how hard republicans vote.
True. I suspect many like myself will be writing in “Donald J Trump” on their ballots.
Me too. Elections are a farce. Write in Trump.
Withhold your vote. Write in will be manipulated.
Yes, and the TPTB are already planning for that very real possibility, Ron for 2028.
Imaging 70 million people that voted for Trump just refussing to participate in the charade any longer.
60 million also voted for Delecto and McCain and W. They are not all MAGA.
How many of those 60 million regret voting for at least one if not all 3 of those insufferable globalist RINO’s? For many of us we fell for the “lesser of two evils” BS pushed by the GOP.
That was pre PDJT.
Legitimate 45s biggest gift to us was exposing the scum de la scum of the Uniparty.
Many will not be fooled again.
Rumor has it the DeSantis has the same groomers as Obama.
Another serpent whispering sweet nothings in the ear of the gullible
Q ?
A?
Ken Griffin held fundraisers, and made huge donations to Odroner.
Griffin now also has Uniparty Ron by the crown jewels, and wherever Ken decides to pull, Ron will follow.
Ron is bankrolled by the same scum that spent a fortune to destroy Donald Trump.
Not hard to understand.
If DeSaintis is approved, he’s approved. Our betters must keep the plebs happy by throwing us a bone now and then.
Pres. Trump if I remember correctly, never told anyone to get the jab. And he always said in the beginning that the jab plus other therapeutics ( ivermectin, hydrcholrican etc)
should be made available to all.
Then he was sabotaged.
Sabotaged at every step.
Every step.
Yes. There is only one great obstacle that remains. Trump must admit to being duped. Trump must blow the whistle on the swamp having killed and injured so many Americans with the Collins/Fauci/Birx orchestration.
There is no way to bluster past this. There is only the truth.
The greater lie resides in the silence. The time is running out for Trump to blow the whistle. He was there. It happened to him too. He too was lied to. He too was betrayed.
One would think a leader with the best interests of the nation and her people will have the courage to tell that truth. When and how to tell it most effectively poses a great and difficult challenge, as the window to do so innocently seems to be closing rapidly.
This is the great test that Trump must pass on the path to 2024.
I so agree! It’s past time.
Agree. He must say that the jabs are dangerous & killing people, no one should get them. Anything less than this won’t work. He must admit that he was fooled. Why doesn’t he?? If he doesn’t do this, I don’t know how I can trust him.
Why must he say it? As if the democrats hang on his every word? Nope. Let Elon tell those who’ve been living in a cave what really happened. They own this plandemic, not President Trump.
President Trump tried everything in his power to stop their Great Reset. Did we miss that part? Too bad we couldn’t stop the treasonous coup that deposed our true leader.
I see … nothing short of his public humiliation would satisfy some people.
It’s not going to happen. President Trump did nothing wrong about the vaccines. He never mandated them.
Here, here. Great post. and I say that as someone who voted for a Republican in 2016 for the first time since 1988. Trump is my guy, as Perot was before him, but this is Trump’s Achilles heel.
Perhaps consider that Trump has intentionally encouraged the Establishments belief that this is his “Achilles heel”.
After all, President Trump is arguably the greatest living practioneer of Sun Tzus Art of War and a genius at media manipulation.
Is this really Trumps “Achilles heel” or another glorious “please don’t throw me in that briar patch, Mr Fox” Trump trap?
Correct. If not now, when?
And it seems DeSantis stole the political punch out of that. President Trump should have come out on this subject much earlier. Now, it’s going to appear he’s riding Ron’s coattails on the subject, if he decides to finally come clean about all the deception. He really needs to, no matter the timing of it, regardless of political optics now. There’s no excuse remaining.
“There’s no excuse remaining”.
Conflating ” excuse” with having a reason or reasons for what President Trump is choosing to do can lead to flawed analysis ie armchair guesses.
Why would President Trump who currently isn’t in office and isn’t a doctor or scientists say anything at this point?
Perhaps do a cost/benefit analysis?
Imo, President Trumps silence is golden, right now.
I’m grateful that he’s prevented the Swamps Media Machine from lobbing TDS triggering MOABs at democrat, independent and apolitical normies who are starting to wake up and ask questions.
Can you imagine the damage inflicted if The Media Machine could make President Trump the public face of vaccine/covid questioners?
“OMG you’re part of the Trump MAGA cult?”
“OMG you’re repeating Dear Leaders anti science conspiracies?”
Fortunately, by making “odd” pro vaccine but pro choice comments then saying he wouldn’t talk about the subject any more until later, President Trump disabled the TDS MOABs designed to shame non MAGA normies into silence and compliance.
As Trump famously said, “I gladly take these slings and arrows for you”. Thankfully this includes slings and arrows come from his understandably emotional “supporters”.
To preface, I’ve believed since Nov 3/20 that Trump won, and would like to see him back in the WH.
That said, whether or not DeSantis’s latest initiative is cynical, hypocritical or simply political opportunism I’ve been waiting since at least mid to late 2021 by which time Trump ought to have known he was misled by Fauci, Birx and the other so-called “experts” as a result of ever increasing evidence that the so-called “vaccines” were neither safe nor effective. It would’ve been and still is so easy and appropriate to place he blame on those Big Pharma shills, but so far Trump’s said nothing, which in turn raises doubts in the heats and minds of many who voted for him twice, while at the same time strengthening DeSantis’s position.
Why hasn’t Trump said anything all this time?
WTF is he waiting for?
What am I missing?
Not even Don Jr or Eric have tweeted/truthed about the crimes of the Fauci mafia. They comment on just about everything…but they aren’t touching the jab and all the harm it does. Love MAGA and President DJT….but, he will not get my vote in 2024 without fully throwing the jab criminals under the bus and admit he was duped by “the science”. DeSantis handlers know this is his achilles heel and are taking advantage of it.
I’m puzzled by those who imagine that President Trump was duped. I’m also puzzled by their belief that he could have or still could make things all better.
Perhaps they’re coping, by projecting themselves being duped onto Trump?
Perhaps they seek to avoid confronting what the Malevolent psychopaths did and are still doing by blaming Daddy Trump for what happened rather than focusing on the psychopaths; the psychopaths who are desperate to remove Trump and install Ron as 2024s Republican version of 2015s Jeb, Rubio, Cruz/2012 Romney.
There are countless reasons why the “OMG Trump was right. Again” is now world famous.
Do armchairs really believe that this time the Swamp Wile Es have finally gotten Road Runner Trump?
Meep. MAGA. Meep.
Dear Ron, best of luck with the new venture. See you soon. Love, Dominion
I do admire any Republican attempting to run in ’24 with our beyond broken voting system Who in their right mind would consider this when nothing has been fixed and no one held accountable?
What percentage of donations do candidates get to keep?
Exactly
I just spam blocked every email pouring in from WinRed.
The Trump spam became so bad I began to wonder if the RINO and Uniparty insiders were running a destructive OP against Trump to use WinRed as cover to force an over exposure; to annoy and violate the base with incessant and bombastic money asks.
I think the may have used WinRed the same way to overexpose Herschel Walker in the last 4 weeks of his campaign. The desperate insipidness of the WinRed spamming was beyond the pale.
How could anything like that be accidental?
Had an 88 year old life long Republican tell me that a few days ago
I never thought of it the way you present it but maybe it makes sense
I was bombarded with donation requests from “WinRed” to the tune of about 50 per day. Stupid stuff like “1000 % match”. Who is matching it? They were an insult to my intelligence. I tried to make a direct contribution to some candidates only to be routed through “Winred”. So, I did not donate. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe some portion of donations going thru Winred will go to the RNC? I refuse to give one cent to the RNC!
I read that “Winred” was concocted to do what “Act Blue” did for the Dems. The solicitations were offense and, in my opinion, counterproductive.
100%, as a slush fund I believe.
Ever wonder why there were 16 candidates in 2015?!
A Uniparty(R) win is fine for them in 2024. The ballot harvesting system is not broken. It get turned off, if de Santis. Turned on, if Trump.
Excellent point. The proof of that political pudding is right there in Arizona. It didn’t slip by me that on Election Day, who flies in to Arizona? The Devil himself, Eric Holder. Make sure everything was on pilot.
“Nothing has been fixed”. Nothing is happening.
Looking with Eyes Wide Shut prevents a person from seeing what’s happened and is happening..
Other than raising a boat-load of money for his campaign coffers (and ultimately himself and his family), what is he doing pretending like he’s viable for 2024.
Does anyone seriously think the people rigging these elections are gonna starting helping Team Ron win? Get real. It’s gonna be President Newsome in 2024.
“Does anyone seriously think the people rigging these elections are gonna starting helping Team Ron win? “
They will, absolutely. Above all else, the Uniparty has to stop Trump.
Yes, no chance any GOP, even a uniparty favorite, gets it. President M Obama is maybe even more likely than Newsom, but we shall see.
Trump could croak and then he would be first in line. But I’m not even confident that GuvGod would win the primary fight.
Absolutely, they have decided to pivot 180°, sacrifice a few chessboard pieces, through a few bones to the populace and hang the Covid-19 disaster on President DT.
Part of the strategy is to reinstate Twitter accounts of doctors, scientists that opposed vaccine mandates, lockdowns or the “safe and effective” hoax. This just happened, and at the same time, Elon is launching Ron DeSantis support efforts.
USA politics aren’t for the faint of heart OMG.
Sundance long ago predicted the Luciferians would hang the entire Covid debacle on President Trump. And since stupid people continue to worship on the altar of fake news, it won’t take much to convince these people of anything.
Hell, Jimmy Kimmel alone could have them all cowering under their beds tomorrow. Instead, we have Elon, apparently, to open the floodgates. Actually he is more controlled, like opening the locks in a dam.
IMO the problem has always been the ignorant sheeple. Hellary’s calls them “unaware and compliant.” So people like that naturally look for scapegoats to blame for their own stupidity.
MAGA Patriots should be screaming, “They poisoned our true President and his family!” instead of blaming this WEF global genocide exercise on him.
The plandemic was decades in the making. President Trump wasn’t part of that and anyone paying attention already knows it.
Only complete and total morons would trust those who intentionally poisoned everyone on earth to be the same ones to fix this.
I DO NOT STAND WITH “RON”. He hasn’t earned my trust.
The only one I’ll stand with… is the ONCE AND FUTURE PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP. He HAS earned my trust – REPEATEDLY!
Dr. Fauci response to Governor Ron DeSantis calling for a grand jury.
https://rumble.com/v20ni3i-dr.-fauci-response-to-governor-ron-desantis-calling-for-a-grand-jury-to-inv.html
Fauci has no choice but to double down and to quote gratuitous statistics regarding “vaccine” safety and effficacy. He’s too deep in the narrative to make any gesture toward the truth of vaccine injury and death and loss of natural immunity resulting from his gene therapy shots.
Just the fact that he and the rest of public health “experts” suppressed and demonized any form of early treatment, an action virtually unheard of in the midst of a health crisis brought on by his tampering with gene therapies, in order to promote the pharmaceutical industry for whom he has shilled for decades now, is reason enough to bring him up (and them) on RICO charges and throw the book at the whole coven of them.
What doctor would not want to try ANYTHING that might mitigate a sweeping disease among the population? Furthermore, what doctor would even go so far as to speak out AGAINST other doctors – particularly front-line doctors – attempting to relieve the suffering of his fellow man? Only a doctor who is committed to another objective besides public health and relief of disease – in this case, the aggrandizement of himself, his fellow creatures at CDC, FDA, NIAID, and, of course, pharma. That is the principle charge against Fauci (I do not refer to him as “Dr” Fauci).
Of course, I think the DeSantis initiative is all theater, as well – nothing will come of that matter. Fauci will go on to live a very comfortable and upscale lifestyle for the rest of his natural life, but that will be it…
I read that Fauci’s daughter works at Twitter. Allison Fauci. Who knew?
Ron Desaintless is way behind the curve with the RINO’S. President Trump is way ahead of these morons. President Trump told all of Us true Americans that exactly the corruption insanity going on now was GOING TO HAPPEN. DeSantis is a puppet of the RINO’S and SWAMP.
What’s the scoop with RD’s good buddy eating his firearm recently. Seems Kent was/is under criminal investigation for a purported sex crime. It’s going to get very ugly for Ron.
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Major donor to Desantis just committed suicide. Very few facts bring released, other than there was a sex abuse scandal element.
Keep track of what’s important:
https://nypost.com/2022/12/13/desantis-donor-kent-stermon-dies-in-apparent-suicide-amid-probe-report/
There is another poll just done with just the opposite….Trump way ahead of DeSantis. So, pick your poll. 😁
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InteractivePolls
@IAPolls2022
2024 National Republican Primary:
Trump 49%
DeSantis 31%
Pence 8%
Cruz 2%
Haley 2%
Cheney 2%
Abbot 1%
Pompeo 1%
Noem 1%
Youngkin 1%
T. Scott 0%
Politico/Morning Consult, 4215 RV, 12/9-11
https://morningconsult.com/2024-gop-primary-election-tracker/…
10:29 AM · Dec 13, 2022
Currently running poll on the InfoWars mainpage.
(Don’t need to signup to vote)
“Who Would You Vote For In The 2024 GOP Primary?”
Tulsi Gabbard-10% – About 5K votes
Rand Paul-20% – About 11K
Ron DeSantis-27% – About 15K
Donald Trump-44% – About 25K
(Total: 57,550 votes)
Polls at this point in time amount to nothing more than name identification. They are meaninglesss.
The hard push to get the Florida governor in front of everyone’s face is too much, too soon and is going to backfire Bigly.
Familiarity breeds contempt.
One thing that is good about DeSantis doing this is that it brings this issue (vax injuries and pharma hiding data) into public discussion and awareness.
So I can appreciate that at the same time I am totally aware it is a political move.
I think DeSantis did it for two reasons. First, he knows the Republican House will be holding hearings on it …and the truth about much of this will come out and wants to appear he led on it.
Second, he wants to balance out his harsh early record with lockdowns. There is some video out there of him being pretty threatening on businesses to take away their license or shut them down, etc.
If you are still a registered Republican at this time, it’s now time to send the GOP the message that you are #walikingaway.
Even down to the state level, most GOP elected officials are bought off, one way or another. And they don’t deserve your vote or support any longer. It is so corrupted that it can’t be reformed. Quit hoping that it can be. They’re addicted to the money and power and Citizens United eliminated any need for your donations or your vote.
This last election cycle should have made that clear by now.
Bingo, BDNB.
President Trump shared a link to the savvy plan Bannons been promoting.
The plan is ending the Establishments control of the GOP including its control of primaries and elections.
https://theprecinctstrategy.com.
Please. Read it. Share it. Do it. And pray.
Is this a sprint? Nope. Its a series of marathon relay races. Pace accordingly.
Trump made DeSantis (2018) and he will break DeSantis (2024).
You are right about Trump making DeSantis in 2018, and I hope you’re right about Trump breaking DeSantis in 2024. DeSantis is just like Romney. First, they’re both USERS who sought Trump’s endorsement and backing in order to make their own political careers, (as RINOs as it turns out). Then they both showed themselves to be TURNCOATS who did not support Trump or his policies while he was President. Now they’ve both shown themselves to be BACKSTABBERS by actively opposing Trump in 2024. These two, in particular, should never be trusted by anyone. They’re nobody’s friend, and they’re certainly no friend to MAGA.
Why didn’t GuvGod (DeSantis) pass a patient bill of rights like Montana did?
By the way, the opposition is trying to get Elon Musk’s citizenship revoked. Why do GuvGod supporters think he will not be blown apart by the opposition when the time comes?
Trump streamlined the vax production….but the vax didn’t actually come out until the final weeks of his administration. The vax rollout, pressure campaign, vax injury denial, etc all belong to Biden.
Trump was never in favor of lockdowns, but went along with the 2 weeks to slow the spread (which got extended) based on advice from the covid team.
He called for reopening fairly early. He made some mistakes, in hindsight, also (who didn’t)? But one thing I always respected besides denying mandates was that he respected states’ rights and leaving handling to individual governor’s
Worth mentioning is the “Covid Team” being led up by Mike Pence.
I’m sorry, Sundance, but I must take issue with you. I see no meaningful difference between Trump’s Warp Speed and DeSantis enforcing COVID regulations. Both of them were “following the science,”which simply means that both were duped by the Deep State.
And do you really have a problem with what DeSantis is doing here? If Trump had to the power to do this, wouldn’t you want him to go full speed ahead? Good politics is good politics, period and end of story.
“I see no meaningful difference” =/= there is no meaningful difference to see.
As Sundance has pointed out using primary sourced data points which he shares with readers, there IS a “meaningful difference” between President Trump and Ron.
Fortunately, those who seek the truth will find it.
Vax mandates and the injuries that have resulted from “operation warp speed” are a major issue that separates Trump and DeSantis…so far. Restoring sanity to our healthcare is no small matter, so while this is a “political” move, it is also a huge development toward ACCOUNTABILITY for all of the mandate and jab injuries nationwide (worldwide). Don’t underestimate the issue with voters.
Much more here: https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/inflection-wednesday-december-14
Conflating President Trumps miraculous Operation Warp Speed which made therapeutics, mono clonal therapies and Emergency Use vaccines available; ending the justification for NWO lock downs with Biden’s vaccine MANDATES, why?
Why? Because people who overdose on fake news can no longer separate fact from fiction.
They’ve conveniently forgotten who encouraged them to try Hydroxychloroquine, way back in March 2020. I listened to PDJT, but they apparently did not.
They conveniently forget that the once esteemed Lancet medical journal published a completely fabricated study to discredit both PDJT and HCQ. I still listened to PDJT but apparently they were fooled.
‘Pretending not to know things’ has become all the rage. Maybe these people should stop listening to fake news all the time. That might help.
DeSwampis is out
stumping for Presidemcy again
What legal right does he have go after big pharma???? I am sure they are shaking in their boots🤣🤣
And all the Sunshine Patriots, Independents, and moderate Dem are wagging their tails and licking each other while the snakes are hissing and mocking at the deplorable slaves’ need to worship a secular god who beats his chest and whispers sweet nothings in their ears and promises to take care of them
#DeSwampis
FBI/DOJ to SB: Play ball and we’ll go easy on you, convict. Don’t play ball? DC gulag will be your multi-year home. Capisce?
I think it was Peter Navarro who said that Trump LIKES being told the hard truth. He hates being flattered when he is in the wrong. He does not respect that.
So, in that spirit: Dear President Trump. You were wrong about the vaccines. You were fooled. I know you don’t like admitting that. But these vaccines are killing people. They are now on the Childhood Vaccination schedule and will kill or disable countless CHILDREN! Go to the microphones and tell the planet that they are bad for children. If you can’t admit you were fooled and duped, at least make an effort to save children.
“Vaccines are killing people”.
They always have. Now people are more aware of Big Pharma/Big Government/Big Media malevolence thanks to President Trump and OWS.
Vaccines MANDATES and the Media Machines lies are ” killing people”. 10 YEARS of lock downs would have killed millions more.
We are in a very real war with the forces of evil. Do people still imagine we could have won this war without very real sacrifices, suffering and casualties?
“At least make an effort to sAvE the cHilDrEn”.
President Trump repeatedly said that in his opinion, NO child should take the EU vaccines and neither should any healthy young adult”. He used his son Bannons experience with covid as the foundation for his comments.
And Ron said…….? And you did……?
It’s good to see someone pushing back regardless if it includes political considerations.
Im old enough to remember when Ron (and Don, for that matter) was a little bitch in response to Kemp opening Georgia. First.
It was called a murder-suicide pact until we seemed ok, then DeSaintis acted like he pioneered the way.
Same with haxxines. He was for them right up until he was against them, basically yesterday.
You heard it from me first.
Ron DeSantis IS serious about a grand jury investigation. But the main target of the investigation won’t be Anthony Fauci, it will be Donald Trump. The goal isn’t to get justice; it’s to turn the MAGA base against Trump. At best Fauci will be collateral damage, nothing more.
EDIT: Also, stop promoting Bannon. He’s just as big of a snake as DeSantis.
Armchair guesses =/= truths
Unless something is done to stop the rigged elections, as per this really great article, no MAGA candidate will ever get elected.
This piece explains the horrible situation AND gives a solution.
Highly recommend.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/12/electionfraud_corruption_is_deeper_than_anyone_can_imagine.html
“That’s a fact, Jack!”
Read it and the 70 page lawsuit Kari Lake filed against the Maricopa County election fraud.
I knew I should’ve voted for the gay blak druggie….. SARC
If Governor DeSantis has no chance in beating President Trump ( i believe that also) why spend so much time focusing on him. His name is just all over the place. Thats in Governor DeSantis favor.
You mean in the same way that most people recognize the name Benedict Arnold?
What Governor DeSantis is doing is a good thing and should not be attacked. How about we support Governor DeSantis on this? Biden still has mandates on the clot shots.
I support President Trump and De Santis. President Trump was the best president we’ve had in decades and the DeSantis has been the best in decades. But neither are perfect.
President Trump had 3 great years and screwed things up big time in the Covid year. It is President Trump who kept Fauci in the limelight, who started the lockdowns (14 days to slow the spread), made the clot shot possible with operation warp speed, etc. DeSantis had to fight against Fauci while Trump kept him. Trump started the inflation ride with his 3+ trillion spending bill and he wanted to throw out Congressman Massie out of the Republican Party for being against it.
And just at the beginning of 2022 he still insisted that the vaccines are safe and effective.
Give me a break.
Trump is good, and he is fantastic in trade and economy, but he is not infallible. Please don’t be like the left.
What he’s doing would be great if it weren’t a political stunt. That would be easy to verify; all he has to do is say he is not running for president in 2024 and be done with all the speculation. Am sure that statement will be forthcoming . . . 🙂
THAT is something I’m grateful to see here. I can support that 100%.
He should be saying he will not run in 2024 unless Trump drops out for some reason.
But — nobody by Rand Paul is doing what they should be doing on the vaccines right now. Nobody in the Political Arena.
That is evil. We are living in evil times….
Fortunately, Rand is NOT the only one. Not by a long shot. Pun intended.
Gee whiz, why aren’t the concrete ACTIONS so many have taken and are still taking not widely covered but Rons PR stunts are blasted everywhere?
I don’t blame Trump for anything in 2020. It was an extremely unusual point in history + he had ungodly amounts of pressure on him. So, I don’t question or criticize anything on Trump in 2020.
On the edge of 2023 — I think his refusal to talk about the Vaccines is —- bad.
I think anyone who says people should shut up about the vaccines because it might influence the 2024 Election should GFT.
What benefit to people would happen if TDS triggering Trump, who is neither a doctor, scientist or current office holder opined?
What would be the COSTS of getting this benefit?
President Trump cares about ALL Americans, including “haters” rather than caring just about his supporters.
Thankfully, Trump =/= a career focused politician. Instead, Trump == a common sense, good hearted American who is also a Realpolitik genius.
Hopefully enough people are now courageous and psywar savvy enough so President Trump has the backing he needs to complete his MAGA Project.
I support President Trump and De Santis.
Ron is bankrolled by the same rats that are still trying to ruin PDJT, and end MAGA.
How is that supporting Donald Trump?
If St Fauci had been taken from the spotlight does anyone seriously imagine the Media hyped NWO schemes would have ended?
Thank God President Trump understands and uses Alinskys Rules for Radicals against its devotees.
As Alinsky said, in order to take down an institution, you must find a person to represent that institution and turn them into a villain. Why? Only hatred of that villain will motivate people to persevere until the villains Institution is destroyed.
Using Trumps famous way of describing people, Fauci is a villain “straight out of central casting”; a media hyped Avenatti 2.0.
Thank God President Trump encouraged Avenatti 2.0 to seek the media limelight.
Real time global projections do not happen in Hollywood movie time.
I’ve been voting since the ’72 Presidential campaign.
Here I thought, presidential election after presidential election, both parties had primaries with maybe a dozen candidates on each side. Each side had early drop outs and late entrees but the pack narrowed a bit and then we had debates. Republicans on one side and Democrats on the other debating amongst themselves. Citizen Trump easily won his primary debates and became the Republican candidate.
What are the crybabies here afraid of? They don’t think President Trump is up to it? It would be nice to see the leading Republican candidates have to confront President Trump. Maybe one of them will become his next vice president. Dr. Carson ended up in President Trump’s administration. We learned how trustworthy Ted Cruz was and how low Marco Rubio would go. I, for one, want to see potential MAGA Republicans debate the issues. President Trump could die between now and 2024 and we need to see how strong our bench is.
So what if Ron DeSantis becomes a candidate? With all the hype surrounding him it would be another feather in the cap of President Trump to stand against him and prove he’s the best candidate.
Seems like many here just want a simple ordainment … an anointment.
It would captivate people still on the fence and probably bring them to our side if after all the hype about DeSantis the Trump Slayer, President Trump praised him at the convention and Ron DeSantis did so in return. I want to hear what all the candidates have to say.
The “ bench” , always looking at the bench ? For what? The GOPe ? I thought Ron was going to be Governor for 4 years, that was what people were saying 6weeks ago – if you’ve been voting since 1972 , pardon me for saying , you haven’t learned very much …the strings ? what is the definition of Unipartyitis – doing the same thing over and over again…
I voted for President Trump both times and he’s far and away my first choice going forward. At this point in time Ron DeSantis isn’t even in my top 5 potential Republican candidates if something took President Trump out of the running … you know … like death or illness.
I would expect the GOP bench to have more than a few MAGA candidates. How our side handles debating fellow Republicans should give us a clue as to how well they’ll do in the national election against Democrats.
Debates == coifed political blah blah =/= “a clue how well they’ll do in the national election”
By that reasoning maybe the Republicans should have had primaries and debates back in 2019. Fortunately, they didn’t waste their time and money doing so, and shouldn’t next year either. Today the DNC, RNC, political pundits, and the media in general are pretending that TRUMP isn’t far and away THE frontrunner. It’s amusing, really.
President Trump is far and away my 1st choice. If this 2022 election cycle showed us anything, it’s that RINOs can’t stand up to debating MAGA candidates. Republican primary debates should showcase this. MAGA candidates are contagiously appealing and fence sitters need to see this.
“I, for one, want to see potential MAGA Republicans debate the issues.”
Frankly, it looks like Hero Worship to me. But let’s put that aside – which I can.
It boils down to — Vote Harder!!!!!
The Elections are rigged. Everyone saw that in 2020. I thought I would be the turning point.
It wasn’t — because the majority of us decided the right path was —- next time we’ll vote so hard, we’ll overwhelm their ability to cheat…!!!!
How’d that turn out….?
But enough people woke up to reality after that. GREAT…!!
But we still have some bad habits in the majority. A vital one is to put way too much emphasis on — Individuals rather than Issues.
“If I vote for the right person, he’ll take care of everything” — seems to be a common mentality….
Fortunately, if the Swamp schemes succeed and Trump “dies” voters won’t need to accept the Swamps MAGA candidate.
The MAGA choice will still be Trump 2024.
Father or one of his sons.
Eric or Don.
4 more years or 8.
The more this spreads the safer President Trump will be from the Swamps malevolent schemes to eliminate him By Any Means Necessary.
You know I truly can forgive a man who seeing his mistakes rectifies them by making amends.
What I don’t respect us a man who sees his mistakes and from bull headed pride still refuses to do what’s right.
That’s my 2¢.
Because of “bull headed pride”…”refuses to do what’s right”.
Relevance to this conversation about President Trump and Establishment hyped Guv Ron?
Obviously that doesn’t describe Trump at all so are you talking about Ron?
I really don’t see a nation standing in 2024. That’s two more year’s of Joey’s popular administration and thriving economy.
Candidates will mean little by then. And if digital currency is implemented, it’s game over.
Trump does need to stop defending the vaccines! Too many people do not understand his promotion of them!’
“Trump needs to stop promoting vaccines”
What a puzzling comment. However, great news!!! President Trump stopped talking about vaccines early this year. In fact, he publicly announced he would no longer talk about the issue. Until later.
As President Trump pointed out when he announced he’s running to be the Republican presidential candidate, “too many people are still asleep”.
I have supported President Trump, and I continue to support President Trump.
But whether or not this is a “political stunt” by DeSantis, I still want to hear President Trump admit that these “vaccines” aren’t all they were cracked up to be.
The latest I keep hearing him speak about them is that no one should be mandated to take them.
And how he was responsible for them being developed in record time because of his “operation warp speed”.
I want to hear President Trump provide a better disclaimer, considering all of the adverse reactions and deaths from these jabs.
“The latest I keep hearing him speak about them is that no one should be mandated to take them.”
Wrong, PDJT has always been against Vax mandates.
“And how he was responsible for them being developed in record time because of his “operation warp speed”.
He prioritized the race to develop a vaccine, as it is the Presidents duty to do so, he did not develop/produce a vaccine himself.
Not hard to understand.
Now all President Trump needs to do is denounce these “vaccines” as the mrna gene therapy clot shots, injuring and killing people, that they are.
I’ll have even more respect for him should he do that, than I already do.
There is no downside to Blue Team. Get rid of Trump. Get rid of MAGA influence. Get rid of 2 Red governors (DeSantis/Noem and replace with Blue). 4th Branch installs Newsom, and continuation of managed decline of our beloved United State of America.
Back to normal.
I would be very surprised if the result of the grand jury ends with any accountability for anyone. Maybe there will be some monetary reparations, but no accountability. There never is anymore.
It’s not a very good plan since anyone running against him can ask why he supported lockdowns and other mandates.
Will it blow up in his face like the illegal alien flights?
“The Florida governor grabs headlines by asking for a state grand jury to “hold the federal government and Big Pharma accountable.””
How soon before DeSantis starts asking when Trump will be held accountable for pushing the vaccine?
Swamp schemers are being hoist on their own petards in slow motion.
Its fascinating to watch a genius like Trump.
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Trump is making an anouncement about America needing a super hero.
I don’t think the announcement will be about himself.
If the super hero can lockup corrupt officals in congress and the biden regime that would work.
America doesn’t need a super hero.
It needs a leader who is not controlled by the uniparty.
Who is Trump’s super hero?
Is the ticket Trump and Elon Musk?
To infinity and beyond?
Wow now that would really be a dynamic duo!😏
If he says desantis I will go off grid and underground knowing the jig is up for sure.
Are the Vaccines a nothing story? No big deal?
Is this image the right way to go —— because —- you know —- Trump….?
https://banned.video/watch?id=639a35a7ade3782325477b5d
Is any high profile official in Government fighting the Vaccines besides Rand Paul?
If DeSantis turns out to be pretending then we should boil him oil. Destroy his career even in Florida.
This obsession with —- the Next Big Election is very harmful for us, IMHO.
DeSantis should tell everyone that he is not going to run in 2024. That he would only run if Trump chose not to.
But Trump remaining silent on the vaccines is —- bad.
If he comes out promoting the vaccines – which I don’t believe he will — he’ll lose me.
We need to get in the habit of focusing on issues – not individuals.
We need to get in the habit of focusing on regular activity/activism instead of kicking the can down the road every 2 years —— obsessing over —- each next — Key Election.
We need to stop hero worshiping —— because the Elections are Frauds to begin with…. The fight is Day-to-Day —- not each Election.
Thankfully, Trump inspired and continues to inspire the removal of those hands; hands that have covered so many eyes, ears and mouths for so long.
In 2017, President Trumps formally called for another Great Awakening in America. Thank God he did. And thank God the Great Awakening Trump inspired and called for is spreading across America.
No wonder the Establishment is so desperate to get rid of President Trump and so blatantly hyping their MAGA guy, Ron.
Any sunlight on the jab should be prayed for and supported by any patriot. Trump should be first in line calling for investigations. People are really dying because of the jab–all or most of us personally know someone dead, with clots, or with sudden advanced cancer diagnosis. Many have lost jobs, had to move in a rush to another place to get jobs, and some are in financial ruin due to the mandate. This jab and its politics are high stakes.
Amen.
This really bothers me.
If I’m wrong —- if the Vaccines are nothing really vital, then I’m very wrong. Totally off.
If the Vaccines are the biggest crime in our lifetimes — then this call to shut up about it because it might reflect badly on Trump is…………………………….
Donald Trump isn’t a Doctor/scientist/ pharma exec.
He had to defer to experts.
It doesn’t reflect badly on him at all.
It does however reflect badly on all the medical experts that lied and misrepresented the facts.
In 2020, yes.
In about to be 2023 —- NO….
More + more experts are coming out against the Vaccines —— as the data from the results comes out (and gets suppressed.)
There is no reasonable excuse for Trump to continue supporting them when questioned about it + remaining silent otherwise…
You are correct.
There was also sufficient data available prior to 2020 to warrant a complete risk analysis.
Why do so many opiners imagine that Daddy Trump can fix this problem?
Obviously, solving this problem is up to each of us and right now, Daddy Trump is not only not needed; he’d actually hinder what’s being done not only in America but all over the world.
I’m puzzled and fascinated by this phase of the psywar.
Said one of the acolytes/children.
Simple question for those who think DeSantis will be a continuation of the MAGA agenda.
Would Paul Ryan, Jeb Bush, and many other Establishment Republicans be praising and fundraising for DeSantis if they truly thought he was a continuation of the Trump/MAGA agenda?
Why aren’t those very people hostile towards DeSantis? They absolutely should be if they really viewed him as Trump part 2.
Too much, too soon. It certainly looks insincere. Reminds me of Werewolves of London, by Warren Zevon, about 1978- or 1979……Album was Excitable Boy, I think.
‘I saw a werewolf drinking a piña colada at Trader Vic’s, and his hair was perfect.’
I still have an Ahooooo lapel button…worth a three and a half minute listen. We were right then too. There might be a little sarcasm in the music. Just sayin’, times were more real a while back.
http://www.youtube.com > watch?v=qae25976UgA
I clearly recall DeSantis bragging publicly about how many Floridians had gotten the jabs. And if memory serves me right didn’t he shut down certain highways in and out of the state when Covidpanic first started?
Florida resident here. Yes, he did.
But…but…we need Ron to rest in place in FL to ensure there are honest elections in the next cycle.
Is Rand Paul bad for highlighting the Vaccines?
Is RFK Jr bad because he is bringing attention to the Vaccines? Or will he only become bad for doing so if he says he is running in 2024?
If Paul isn’t bad, but DeSantis is — just because DeSantis might run against Trump + because he MIGHT not really mean what he’s saying…………..what are we doing…?
Can we get in a habit of focusing on Issues instead of Individuals + stop obsessing over — the Next Big Election that is going to be rigged against us anyway?
2024 is very far, far away; too many lives will be ruined by then, too many deceived with the jab will be dead, our bank accounts may be fully under control of a hostile government with an e-currency imposed upon us, etc. Any step to weaken the hold of Darkness on the minds of too many of our population should be welcomed, even if it comes from DeSantis. I think we have enough judgment to sort one thing from the other, one good candidate from a better candidate (Trump) without losing our minds in the process. So destroying the narrative of “safe and effective” is a bigger priority than a “distant” election. The election in 2024 may be stolen again, while lives may be saved and many of us protected from financial ruin now if we destroy Fauci’s narrative. Can we chew gum and walk at the same time?
I want everyone to remember when DeSantis signed some law that forbid vaxxine mandates there was a little caveat in that law that gives the government authority to force someone they deem as a threat to public health to be vaxxinated against their will. Ron isn’t a hero with that little carve out for forced vaxxinations that will certainly be used by some dictator who wants to vaxxinate every man, woman, and child.
WWR24 brings back memories of WIN (Whip Inflation Now) buttons of the 70’s(?). Thank you Sundance for all you do! A real breath of fresh air in an odoriferous environment!
Last thing I’ll say on the thread (instead of rambling ineffectively).
I believe Covid + the Fake Vaccines are the greatest crime against Humanity in my lifetime (52).
A crime Trump was blindsided by + railroaded + lied into. I fault him for nothing in 2020.
But NOBODY of real importance in Government is doing a bleep thing about it except Rand Paul.
That is a moral crime itself.
Remember Ron Johnson. He is working hard
Did the Swamp schemers lie to President Trump? Obviously.
However, that does not mean that they succeeded in duping President Trump.
Trying =/= Succeeding.
Perhaps more opiners could improve their analysis if they realized that beliefs typically undermine understanding.
Psywars 2022.
Out of curiosity, are you claiming that PDJT cannot fathom when he is being lied to?
That’s a crock – and worrisome if true. I buy into the narrative that he was cornered by all the insider forces aligned against him and had few options politically; forces that often functioned outside the rule of law.
Beliefs typically undermine understanding? As in religion? I’d be careful tossing about generalizations like that.
What happened to President Trump was pure, corrupt politics – from day one. The man couldn’t make a secure phonecall without threat of some unelected agent of progress illegally divulging the contents to media. The whole system could stand a thorough cleansing.
Where to start? Iggyb is correct in identifying the Covid fraud as a first priority requiring immediate accountability from start to end…..IMO. The next priority should be identifying and terminating the careers of the corrupt insiders who undermined a Presidency. Again, a national cleansing is in order. Then we can get to fixing the incredibly damaging monetary and fiscal policies immiserating this country.
Let’s be completely honest about our situation.
We essentially have a choice between a seemingly on-point but owned DeSantis and a seemingly unowned but failed Trump, who proved himself not up to the task of his own MAGA agenda.
And, because of where I’m writing, I must clarify that by “failed”, I mean no personal disparagement on Trump. I give him full benefit of the doubt that he was sincere about his original campaign message and all the credit in the world for daring to try.
But the sad reality is that, apart from three SCOTUS justices and a handful of legislative victories (oh, and keeping Hillary out of office), there was nothing of significance accomplished in his administration that has not been completely dismantled and undone by the coup d’etat of 2020. Though sincere in his goals, he lacked sufficient knowledge of how to operate the levers of power in his control and sufficient knowledge of his true enemies. In the end, he got played “six-ways-from-Sunday” just like Chuckie said. Though he cannot be faulted for trying, and we likewise cannot be faulted for wanting him to succeed, in hindsight he was not up to the task and we were mistaken in believing he, or any one person, might be. The person who is both willing and able to deliver the MAGA agenda solely from the office of President probably does not exist.
That’s no slight on Trump. It’s just reality; a reality that will no doubt be unpopular here, but reality no less.
So that leaves us in the situation stated above. In other words, we don’t have a good choice. Again, reality. And speaking of so much reality, we would do well here to remind ourselves this is how the world “really” works. We don’t get good choices, or any choice at all, ever, except in extremely rare historical circumstances like 1776, where that choice was obtained with the sacrifice of life, fortune, and sacred honor of all involved. And unless we approach each and every election with the same mindset and the same willingness to make the same sacrifice if necessary, we can have no real expectation of maintaining that choice.
In coming to terms with our lack of choice going forward, it might be helpful to perhaps update our map of the current world. This web site has, for many years, done exemplary work in chronicling the depredations of the Wall Street class and their war on Main Street. Righty so. And during that whole time, the interests of the various factions comprising the Globalization project, of which Wall Street was a key member, were all aligned. This Globalism project was to be the framework for a new world order that would be “built back better” after the inevitable and controlled collapse of the of the old order.
Well, it would seem we are at the functional end of the old order, and upon arriving at this point, it would further seem that the once aligned interests of certain key members of the Globalization project have now actually diverged, and existentially so. The key diverging member is of course Wall Street, and from whom they diverge is Davos. For having reached the end, the Euro-centric interests of Davos have determined they want the monetary system of the new globalized order to be a digital currency issued direct to the public, and to the entire global economy, from a single central bank — the IMF — under their exclusive control. This, among other radical revisions, would eliminate the entire global private banking industry, which would of course eliminate the private commercial banks of Wall Street. Hence the existential divergence of Wall Street interests.
In the past it was straightforward to chronicle Globalism as a monolithic movement. Now, it is no longer monolithic. This divergence, and properly mapping it onto the current world is, I believe, crucial to our understanding of the upcoming 2024 election.
In short, DeSantis is likely the selected candidate of the diverging Wall Street interests. Yes, the same Wall Street that a decade ago apparently had no problem with the extinction of the American middle class for the cause of Globalism, but now finds itself in the extinction crosshairs of Davos, again for the cause of Globalism. The irony. But regardless, it would appear, through the yeoman’s work of this site, that DeSantis is their guy to represent their interests.
In the prior world map of monolithic Globalism, this would of course be a bad thing. But remember, Wall Street is now in an existential fight, essentially the same sort of existential fight of the American middle class, the upshot being that in 2024 the interests of Wall Street and Main Street might, if only vaguely, be aligned.
Concerning this existential fight, it will be a veritable battle of the gods, a “hurricane” as Jamie Dimon put it. This is an immensely precarious situation. It is no time for anyone who lacks knowledge of how to operate the levers of power. This is not to suggest DeSantis has such knowledge over and above Trump. But it is to suggest that the owners of DeSantis do have such knowledge, and they are confident DeSantis will follow orders in a way that Trump will not.
To put it in big picture terms, one wrong move going forward and we could find ourselves in a world of The Great Reset of the WEF and Davos. No one wants that, including Wall Street. But if Wall Street wins this “battle of the gods”, whatever comes out on the other side will, if nothing else, at least have the advantage of not being The Great Reset. Which brings us back to where the interests of Wall Street and Main Street may come into paradoxical alignment in 2024. Put another way, if Wall Street loses this fight, then Main Street loses. If Wall Street wins…well…at least Main Street doesn’t lose again, or lose so fatally.
And we cannot afford any more fatal mistakes, like Covid, which was a Davos-aligned operation. Another such event and Davos likely wins. And it is precisely Covid, and more particularly his ongoing stubborn adherence to the wrong side of this issue, where I have lost confidence in Trump. Again, I think he means well, but the preponderance of his shortcomings has demonstrated to me he is not up to the immensely precarious task at hand. There would have been room for his shortcomings in 2012 when he thought about running, but not now. Now, we find ourselves in a situation where, for the sake of Main Street and the rest of the burgeoning global middle class, Wall Street must not lose this existential fight against Davos. And for this fight, Wall Street has rejected Trump and chosen DeSantis.
Having said all this, none of it makes me happy. Rather is crushes my soul, like sacrificing life, fortune, and sacred honor. I of course would love for Trump to have succeeded. But the reality is he did not, and short of what seems an insurmountable correction of his current course, he will not. And it was probably unrealistic of us to expect any one man could thus succeed. So we find ourselves strange bedfellows with the giants on Wall Street at this precarious inflection point in world history. And if we survive along with Wall Street, we can perhaps on the other side slay them as well, as they ultimately deserve, if we are willing to make the same sacrifices as our Founders, which until now we have failed to make.
So I will be watching here as closely as anyone for the unique perspective on the Wall Street takeover of DeSantis, which honestly can be found nowhere else, though not for the simplistic conclusion of Trump-good-DeSantis-bad, but rather for a proper, sober, and indeed soul-crushing understanding of the hurricane that lies ahead, and the precarious path through.
Dear Ron,
Wow! Can’t believe you’d have the gall to write on here. A Ho, misin ya, not misin ya.
Trump for President in ’24, Desanctimonious for Governor in Florida 24′
Will NEVER vote for anyone bankrolled by the same vermin that spent a fortune to destroy PDJT.
Prepare to salute President Hairgel.
DeSanctimonious versus Gavin Hairgel == same outcome no matter which guy wins. Only the optics would be different.
Romney 2.0 versus Obama 2.0.
I prefer a REAL battle to a fake one.
Trump 2024.
In California, he is known as GOVERNOR NUISANCE.
Yeah, that tack isn’t working anymore.
I will not vote again (pointless) until we get rid of the vote counters. If I were going to a car auction to bid on a car I really, really wanted, but I knew each time I would be out bid, what is the use of attending?
If the vote counting is truly so upsetting to you, what are you doing to fix the problem?
Expecting others to solve it for you? If not, please share what you’re doing so readers can be inspired by and learn from your efforts.
The same as you and me, I will bet.
Wrong here. I work every day to organize, inform and help in my community, where our power is still great. Anyone who doesn’t work for America is complicit in her demise.
Reference: Loy & Raland Brunson vs Alma S. Adams et al, No. 22-380
For those that want to more information as to why this case is important…Interview with Project Camelot.https://projectcamelotportal.com/2022/11/27/interview-monday-3pm-pt-loy-raland-brunson/
Your comment actually is in support of what Pew says, above. Trump has demonstrated twice now that he does not have the wherewithal to overcome the Davos voting fraud. I figured he had to have seen it coming in 2020 and must have had a strategy for dealing successfully with it. My confidence turns out to have been misplaced. If there is a more sophisticated and capable machine backing a candidate with Desantis’ credentials and capacities, I believe they also have at least a chance, perhaps a very good chance, to kneecap the Davosauros. For that reason, they represent the only path for us to move forward as a functioning republic.
Ignorant comment. Ignorant means unknowing, and YOU have no clue about who or what DeSantis is. He HAS no real credentials and his only capability is putting on dog and pony shows about what he WILL do. Check what he does.
you wrote all that and said what in the end? I’ll keep it simple for you Ron. DeSantis is a backstabbing opportunist.
You’ve got a lot of assumptions in there, and several of them are flawed.
#1) Wall Street is DAVOS/WEF There is no divergence between them (See ESG).
#2) Transpacific Trade Agreement (TPA) is not currently in place. Neither is TTIP (Europe), eliminating both of which -by themselves- would be worthy of a presidential platform alone. All is not lost.
#3) The current state of energy crisis is entirely reversible, which… as we have seen in ’18/’19 almost immediately leads to massive expansion of the U.S. economy. The Biden team are trying to cement the destruction, but they will not accomplish that in two years. It will still be possible to reverse in ’24.
#4) Your outlook is entirely devoid of economic policy positions like Tariffs and how those can immediately lower prices in the U.S. market. It sounds counterintuitive but Donald Trump proved in ’17, ’18, and ’19 that national DEFLATION is possible to create simultaneous to wage growth. That’s a big effen’ deal and a goal to chase.
#5) Foreign Policy and National Security flow as an outcome of 1, 2, 3 and 4. Geopolitically positioning the United States as an island unto itself economically is still a very valuable ace in the hole. The globalists can be kicked out as they were from policy in ’18 and ’19.
#6) If the threat of the last FIVE points were not material and evident to the globalists, there would be no opposition to President Trump. The severity of their opposition is partly due to what I just noted above. They can be hurt and America can thrive, if we have the right policy in place.
#7) All of that above is worth fighting for.
Select your fighter…. Trump is mine.
Sundance comes though with solid evidence of why President Trump is our man! Thanks for the keen insight.
As my Uncle Teddy used to say, “Amen Brotha!”
Only one thing I’d add to that. President Trump showed the world what could be done. Nothing is more powerful than when people are given a vision and hope. In my opinion, he, and he alone, restored that in his huge MAGA way, and with that he became public enemy number one to the power brokers because they cannot afford an awakened and hopeful and determined American electorate.
Vision hope and a TASTE….we had it and it was snatched from us.
you didnt lose anything.
you got the blinders ripped off, thanks to PDJT forcing them to show themselves to stop him.
Our gift was seeing the usurpers of this country. that wont be dealt with through elections.
This 👆👆👆. 👏👏👏
Only one problem I have with that. Besides the fact that Mr. Trump is so proud of his achievement with Warp Speed that produced the Frankenshot of the evil pharma empire, he had an abysmal record of appointments. Not just Fauci but deep stater after deep stater. You would have thought that he would have learned his lesson after Sessions, then he selects the deeply flawed Bill Barr. In addition to the fact that, as has been stated, Mr. Trump failed in his promise to drain the swamp, he talked a better game than he walked it. Don’t get me wrong, Donald J. Trump has charisma coming out of his ears, but it is difficult for us, the common man to know if he is really what he claims to be or just another bait and switch tactic of the deep state.
I made no comment on his performance. I agree with a lot of what you said. If you read my comment for content and not just to rebut it, you’d get the point. What he did do, and the successes he had (many) made people see what we could have again in America. In my opinion that was the best thing he did, and nothing changes that fact.
Indeed, if there ever was a chance of a free and fair election in this country again, those who come after President Trump can only benefit from the unprecedented things he did. All alone. Without any help.
Oh please, stop with the equivocating butt hurt nonsense. I guess you haven’t figured out that anyone DJT appointed/nominated to a Cabinet or alphabet agency director position had to pass through McConnell’s Senate approval process. Also, given that almost everyone in the federal government, especially in Wash., D.C., was against him because they wanted to maintain their feeding position at the Uni-Party/Big Club/globalist money laundering feeding trough, DJT accomplished more for this country and her citizens than any modern era POTUS in at least the past 50 years. With respect to the vaccines, you ever think that those around him were most likely complicit in the treasonous activities to overthrow the legitimate and legally elected Executive Branch of the government? They would have every reason to lie and attempt to misdirect and undermine him. Also, don’t project the vaccine deaths on him. Point your finger where it deserves to be pointed at the Biden administration, the politically compromised and scientifically devoid FDA/CDC plus the sycophant Democrat/RINO state governors,etc., who politicized a treatable infection to the hilt. Oh, in closing, irrespective of the vaccines, the FDA’s approval process was archaic and ran at a snails pace. Warp speed addressed that. The problem(s) with the vaccines had nothing to do with that but had everything to do with suppressing and ignoring questionable test results for biased political purposes that resulted in the EUA release of experiment vaccines that should have been recalled, like prevous vaccines were, when serious and fatal medical conditions first started to be reported.
Spot on! President Trump is the best thing that happened to America!
“but it is difficult for us, the common man to know if he is really what he claims to be or just another bait and switch tactic of the deep state.”
But you know that Ron DeSantis is what he claims to be by acting like Trump the got you can’t figure out if he’s what he claims to be 🤔
By the way Trump kept every promise he made, so there is a record of what he will do and can accomplish. As far as draining the swamp. First off he was suppose to have 8 years to do it. Second I bet you can name every Democrat, Republican, Former & Current Intel Agents, Journalists and so on who are swamp rats because of Trump. Third he did that with EVERYONE against him. So if Trump’s biggest fault was trusting that people were good and would change what they were doing, than I can live with that. Heck a lot people here on this site thought that the Media and Government couldn’t keep up with this pretending for this long because if they did the people would do something about it. I guess we were wrong on both accounts
guy/not got
Agreed! Trump is our guy and the only guy that will actually put America First! I’m not saying I don’t like Desantis, but; only Trump has made promises and kept them. Desantis…said he was going to stop Disney from having it’s own little playground and police themselves after having been allowed to do this for so many years. That’s the problem with woke liberalism, give them an inch and they want to shove a mile down your throat. Desantis has backed off at what he said…so, he obviously does not always mean what he says. Trump…promises made…promises kept. When Trump came down that golden elevator I was on his team from then on…
and will be!
DeSantis is owned by people who are globalist … they are not concerned about social issues other than the individual corruption that comes with lax policies. Many in FL, like me, are a bit disillusioned with the new DeSantis.
‼️ ✅ 👍 👍 👍 ‼️
Plus Pew -Ron as above is so biblical /so dramatic- and like talking about REAL elections – all 1000 words of BS doesn’t matter a wit unless election fraud dealt with – otherwise looking at simply the Uniparty version of WWE ( professional wrestling setups /matchups with scripted outcomes ) – it’s the Strings that PDJT showed us and never really saw them until 2015 … will always look for the strings now and so obvious if you want to see…
Trump + Sundance helped me start seeing “the strings” in 2015.
When Eyes Wide Shut open and start looking around an amazing adventure begins.
Thank you God!
“Select your fighter…Trump is mine”.
Bravo!!! I choose him too.
I’m also choosing to fight with him rather than sitting on the sidelines.
Inspirations? Sundance and Teddy Roosevelt’s iconic ” Man in the Arena” sppech.
Several Trump Tribute videos use that speech as the narrative that synchs with Trump visuals. Some of these videos have been shared by Scavino.
Hopefully others will be inspired too.
DeSantis is our side’s trojan horse, much like Joe Biden, only it’s obvious who will control Ron. I don’t trust the money behind him, and he’s a little too slick. My financial advisor stated that he thinks DeSantis is a more-polished Trump, and that most R’s just want Trump to go away. I told him I would crawl through broken glass to vote for Trump again, and maybe I need a new financial advisor.
People like your advisor are so absurdly myopic. I have been saying for a long time that I sense a great deal of insincerity from DeSantis, that his (to my eyes, anyhow) clumsy impersonation of trump is nothing more than a hammy, politically avaricious affect. We went through all this with many of the pseudo-Tea Party candidates , who quite literally then denounced us from the floors of Congress.
After the last seven years, I’d carry gas cans through Hell for Donald Trump
Sundance, with all due respect you’ve got #5 backwards.
The top of the globalist chain of command are the foreign policy ideologues in Washington, not the bankers and investors on Wall Street. Everything the latter group does is intended to advance the ideology of the former group, which is not “America First” but “America Uber Alles.”
In the world of “America Uber Alles,” anything short of a unipolar world order (where the US is the only sovereign nation and all other nations are vassals of Washington) is a “national security threat,” and anyone who advocates a multipolar world order is an “enemy of the state.” That is why you see so much intrusion into the private sector by security agencies (such as the DHS/FBI takeover of Twitter), and that is why you see the constant demonization in the media of countries of countries like China, Iran, and Russia (who not only want their own spheres of influence but also want to carve said spheres into the Eurasian Heartland, the most important region in the world of geopolitics).
This is the true reason why you see so much opposition to Trump within the Washington swamp. His great sin (in their eyes) was challenging their narratives on China, Iran, and Russia. He wanted to throw out the anti-China TPP and replace it with a trade deal which was mutually beneficial to both the US and China. He also pursued peace with North Korea, a Chinese vassal, and the only reason he didn’t do the same with Iran is because he was somehow talked out of it by people like Bolton, Pompeo, and Netanyahu. And he furthermore wanted to halt the expansion of NATO in order to reduce the chance of war with Russia.
Am I boring you here?
And his son in law, no doubt.
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Apt and interesting points, all, especially the second paragraph.
Trump is mortally wounded by his failure (yes, failure) to acknowledge the clot shots were BAD news (certainly for anyone under 70 or without co-morbidities)
He could have fixed that. But he didn’t. Political reasons? Ego? Some other reason?
I mean, we’re talking hundreds of thousands of deaths from the clot shot. And millions of injuries.
We could have had a Trump/DeSantis ticket, and ruled for the time necessary to actually effect permanent changes (perhaps) in DC.
It seems to me that it was Trump’s responsibility to co-opt DeSantis. I’m not clued in to why this did not happen.
Did DeSantis spurn him? Or did he not even try? (The possible objection that they are from the same State can easily be overcome)
Stand together and we win. Apart we lose. It’s that simple.
“Trump is mortally wounded by his failure”
😂
Another booster might clear up that bout of TDS you are apparently suffering from.
Clever Caleb. Ha ha
If you’ll check my posts going back 6 years you’ll find I’ve ALWAYS been a firm supporter of PDJT.
But I’m not blind to some of his foibles. I try to understand them and accept them.
But if you think the death of hundreds of thousands of US citizens from the clot shot won’t be used against him, you are deluded. Or perhaps you’re just railing against the unfairness of the situation.
He has been unfaired in so many ways, after all.
He had his chance to change the narrative, but couldn’t or wouldn’t.
If you can’t see how that will come back to haunt him, or if you can simply sweep those deaths away, then I’m afraid you are not an ardent supporter, but a cult member.
Just keep telling yourself that anyone who points out the unfortunate facts that weigh against PDJT is suffering from TDS. That’ll work for sure.
I said 2 years ago that the “vaccine” will be used against him by political opponents.
Yet DeSantis was worse with the clot shot. Unless you want to reimagine history? Every Governor except Noem made a decision to lockdown. The whole notion to say he changed course is silly because most Repub governors changed course. I know I know but Ron did it sooner, but but but Trump never locked down anyone!
So how many deaths will haunt Ron DeSantis or is this another arbitrary thing between DeSantis supporters and Trump?
Thank God we will never have a Trump/DeSantis ticket. We already had one but his name was Pence.
Dig a deeper hole, why don’t you.
Where is the ad on the site for the NFT’s?
My heart leapt with hope when I read your post. I have a lot of serious questions. Do we still have enough “white hats” /good guys in DC and in business to carry out such a plan? For example, would any energy company risk the wrath of the Davos/WEF crowd to pursue more energy independence? One word – Nordstream – there are some serious players that do not want to see energy expansion at whatever cost.
Can Trump surround himself with enough loyalists this time to carry out such a plan?
If, as Dr. Malone has said that we have been the subjects of a military grade 5th generation information and propaganda war the past three years (his words), how do we overcome these (some seen many unseen) hands working against us?
Mostly by not tuning it all out.
EDIT: ommit the word “not”.
I appreciate allowing an obviously contrarian opinion to remain on your site without censorship, and also responding with a thoughtful rebuttal. I wouldn’t bother attempting to genuinely disagree (with frankly all the thoughtfulness I can muster) if I didn’t respect the initial premise.
“#1) Wall Street is DAVOS/WEF There is no divergence between them (See ESG).”
I should have been clearer in my characterization of the current Wall Street divergence from Davos. I am not suggesting all of Wall Street is diverging. Clearly there are powerful Wall Street institutions on board with Davos agendas like ESG. Blackrock and Vanguard come immediately to mind. But these two institutions in particular are just fund managers, not commercial banks, and it is the commercial banking industry in particular that faces extinction under the Davos Great Reset. This distinction was intimated in my OP, if not explicitly stated.
So it should come as no surprise that of the most powerful commercial banks on Wall Street — who by the way actually own the New York Fed and, and for all practical purposes, the Federal Reserve — none have been vocal supporters of ESG or the Green Davos agenda in general the way Blackrock has. In fact, in recent weeks, the Wall Street commercial banking interests have come out publicly in opposition to ESG , with none other than Jamie Dimon of JPM leading that charge. As a result, ESG is now crumbling at a surprising rate. Blackrock is backing off, states are removing their funds under management and filing lawsuits.
In the globalism of years past it was true all of Wall Street was aligned with their European counterparts. I argue that is now no longer the case. The current divergence is of Wall Street commercial banking interests specifically, in distinction from other Wall Street institutional interests. That divergence probably went back at least as far as 2018. But the clearest manifestation of it was February of this year, as the Fed began raising rates…which by the way probably has a lot more to do with what I’m talking about here and a lot less to do with inflation as we are all supposed to believe…but I digress.
“#2[……]#5”
I don’t dispute the general premise of any of these points. My argument is more one of context. Everything you say here would be perfectly valid in another context, say around 2012 as I suggested in my OP. But I posit the fight against globalism of a decade ago is not the same fight today. And, sadly, for this and other stated reasons, I no longer believe Trump is the winning fighter. In fact, fighting as such may not even be the right metaphor. Perhaps avoiding being crushed under the feet of fighting giants better describes what we face ahead. And if the giants of Wall Street are currently threatened by those of Davos the same as the rest of us, that does not make Wall Street good. It just means the foot of Davos is the first we need to avoid. And if Wall Street wins, battered and bloody, perhaps then is the time to fight as such and take them out as well.
None of this is meant to change your mind, obviously. I merely present it, in the spirit of honest open debate, as an alternative, or even contrarian way of interpreting the unique data documented here, which regrettably may be useful in parsing what lies ahead. Hopefully not.
Point #1, against Pew-Anon’s main point, could use a little more elaboration. Unfortunately Trump showed little evidence of being a “fast learner” when it came to identifying and countering the tactics of his enemies, including those in his own administration. He kept on underestimating them. Whereas perhaps it can be said that DeSantis, although he made some initial missteps with Covid response, soon learned from his mistakes, and was not too proud to reverse course. So perhaps DeSantis is a fast learner.
No matter the odds against Trump and the intellectual case against him the people have spoken with their hearts. With all his flaws he wears his humanity and patriotism upfront on his sleeve. Glad to see you all are still up front with him.
Yes and only mine
Bravo!
My sense is davos and wallstreet are one of the same.
Yup.
Indeed, they were. Not any more. Both can not exist as currently constituted in the the WEF Great Reset.
That’s a lot of baloney just to promote the GOPe, McConnell, McCarthy, Murdoch, et al choice, DeSantis.
DeSantis is a Yale and Harvard man, military lawyer, and then career politician. What’s missing? Never a day in the private sector.
Ron DeSantis is a government man, 100%. His pedigree is 100% the opposite of what is needed.
Plus Ron’s a just turned 44 year old kid in terms of real world, Global Shark Tank, experience.
Perhaps this is one reason why he was chosen.
All you need to know is he took the book deal. Sure, he’ll become Obama-level rich on a government salary, but his soul is no longer his own.
Trump 2024
Nice try and science fiction, but no pretzel. A candidate (aka Ron Desantis) who is willingly and knowingly accepting financial support from donors and the uniparty whose ultimate objective is to destroy our Constitution and Constitutional Republic to advance a dictatorial corporate globalism is DOA irrespective of all the fancy campaign props, contrived faux posturing and rhetoric by their newly selected campaign staff and supporting media lackeys.
You missed all the judges he installed which is a huge impact on cases going forward.
You mean like the Supreme Court Justices who elected to challenge the deep state on all the election fraud?
… Oh, wait.
I concur. The Wall St. vs Davos scenario is indeed a “thing”.
Together they would have been unbeatable. It’s so, so unfortunate how things turned out.
Trump/DeSantis 24
DeSantis/Anyone 28
DeSantis/Anyone 32
Sigh…….
A brilliant move by DeSantis and one that will at least put him on the right side of history, regardless of whether anything real comes from it. Many of us in Canada who were locked down, refused the clot shot and suffered the consequences, looked upon DeSantis as approaching sainthood and Florida as the promised land. Despite the latest narrative been spun here, we know what we saw.
It’s so unfortunate that PDJT was unable, for political reasons (hopefully not ignorance or stubbornness), to admit that the so-called mRNA “vaccines” have been a failure and that they were grossly misused by others to commit what can be considered a genocide.
I can only presume this was the one area they could not reconcile in negotiating – by failing to join forces, who wins, exactly?
Why Joe, again, of course.
Agree. I think the clot shot is a major vulnerability for Trump. Seems to me a while back there was a thread here about Alex Jones and Trump and the “vax”. I said at that time that Trump needs to get out ahead of the coming storm over the jab.
As both the harms become more apparent and the knowledge about them that both Pfizer and the FDA, etc had, SOMEHOW (with the media on your side ANY narrative is possible) Trump will get the blame. Even though we all know he would never have mandated it
President Trump never did mandate taking the shot…he explicitly said it was up to the individual whether to get it or not.
Yes, but he has not been able or willing to say words to the effect of:
“It is mainly the very elderly and the folk with multiple co-morbidities who should seriously consider this shot. For everyone else, know that the shot may be more dangerous than the virus”
But he hasn’t. So by saying nothing negative against the shot, and being wishy washy about its benefits without mentioning its harms, I’m struggling to see how he’s not complicit to some extent.
I mean, I was willing to give him some slack because of the political circumstances he was faced with, but the longer he remains silent the less willing I become.
You might want to tell the whole story. February 28th 2020, President Trump said this coming coronavirus was another Hoax just like Russia, Russia, Russia. Maybe we should be asking ourselves who talked him out of proceeding forward. He was absolutely right. Again!!!!
Actually…he did. When first rolled out, those are exactly the limited demographics that he proposed.
Then why on earth did/has he stopped?
Why do you hate the elderly and the folks with multiple co-morbidities? The shot “with 90% effectiveness” is no such thing. What is the point of those at risk, the elderly, etc., putting themselves at further risk for side effects when the BS MRNA concoction does f**k all. The risk – reward ratio of this engineered atrocity is abysmal. The fact that Mr. Donald Trump is still hawking this crap is strike one in my opinion, and makes me question everything about his commitment to we the people.
It has been pretty definitely determined that the risks outweigh the benefit for those over 70.
Things are not quite as clear yet on the over 70’s. and particularly the over 80’s. Although I have my doubts there too. I just don’t have the evidence to compute the risk/benefit analysis.
But the over 70’s are not working or having children, and their life expectancy is limited already.
I believe “Right to Try” should have been used for the above cohorts. They take the risk then if they want the clot shot instead on Ivermectin etc.
“The average age of a death by or with “Covid-19” is higher than life expectancy. No other figure even need be known to understand the “pandemic” (business model) is a fraud and a giant Ponzi scheme.”
gda, you are so right about the coronavirus and Trump.
You love to bring up the elderly. I asked you above how many deaths is Ron DeSantis responsible for because he did the actual locking down like all governors but Noem. The point you think your making against Trump makes DeSantis and all governors but Noem look even worse
Timing is vital to success.
Timing requires both savvy AND patience.
Fortunately Trumps ruthless savvy has been legendary since the 80s. So has his preternatural patience
I will never vote for DeSantis, he is not MAGA.
The leftist vote splitting strategy may be working for you. I will vote for an establishment owned RINO any day over a democrat lying communist. Not much of a choice though is it?
There is an opportunity for someone else to jump in and take advantage of the Trump/DeSantis kerfuffle but they are lying in the weeds right now avoiding the mudslinging.
That’s quaint that you believe there is any line of distinction between a RINO and a communist. By voting RINO, you ARE voting and helping, not hindering, the Democrats.
There is a big distinction in who has the majority for bringing legislation to the floor, investigations in committees, and the ability to whip votes. Sure, the RINO’s won’t go along, but if the democrats control congress, there is no possibility of any control over what happens.
Right now there is no such thing as a perfect conservative, republican, whatever, but having imperfection is a world of difference form leftist communist control of everything.
Even Ronald Reagan today might be considered a RINO because of his democrat past or some silly donation to him.
All of you out there are telling me you’d accept Gavin Newsom because Ron DeSantis is a RINO? You are part of the reason republicans don’t win. “Oh they aren’t MAGA enough, I’m not voting” Not voting is a vote for democrats, so you all might as well just admit you could be a RINO too.
This voting for the lesser of two evils mentality and thinking you’re not losing is why CONservatives never win a thing
No one is MAGA but Trump, and he won’t be around forever.
Cut off your nose to spite your face?
His Trumpian demeanor is nothing more than a politically expedient affect. He has zero experience beyond the insular walls of the bureaucracy. I’ve believed this for a long time, that he is merely mimicking the qualities that draw people to Trump. Fake, fake, fake,
One reason why the Establishment is hyping Ron is to divide MAGA and psyop poison more people into becoming Never Trumpers who will let the Democrat win in 2024 rather than voting for Trump.
Its the same mind poisoning psyop the Establishment pulled on Cruz supporters in 2015/16.
DeSantis was allowed to prosper in FL by the Uni-Party in order to create their golden boy whose purpose was to ultimately be used to restore the “Club” to it’s rightful corrupt self by destroying a major GOP and in actuality a major nationwide voting block and it’s leader (aka MAGA and DJT). Just remember DeSantis is a politician and DJT is a businessman. That’s all that needs to be stated between the operational and ethics abyss between the them.
I have high regard for what people have endured to stand for personal liberty in supposedly free places like Australia and Canada, having come perilously close to enduring the same, which honestly shook me to my core. I hope you are well.
Trump/DeSantis. What could have been, indeed.
Keep plugging away little feller, hopefully one day someone will take you seriously.
Way too much to read, good grief. Go start your own Sub-Stack.
LOL, that was one of the few lengthy posts here that I read in it’s entirety.
The idea of Wall St versus IMF is intriguing. I have to chew on it some more and note Sundance did not address that in his rebuttal
Wall Street is the IMF.
When Wall Street players like Dimon publicly whine about the IMF I view it as whining about the escalating costs of club membership. I do not take those whines to mean he’s renouncing his membership in the club.
The idea of Wall Street versus IMF is intriguing. Hence Trump repeatedly tried to encourage Wall Street to actually entertain that idea and explained why doing so was in their best interests.
Wall Streeters who get it support Trump. Those who don’t get it support the Establishment puppet, DeSantis now that they know Ron doesnt share Trumps MAGA vision or they will support the Democrat candidate
I am glad you posted this.
In doing so, it allowed the opportunity to have your ideas shot down in real time as several posters already have.
You seem to think President Trump was not successful. In order to evaluate his success, one must first define success.
If one defines success as fixing everything that’s wrong with this country in four short years, then you would be correct. Of course, that’s a false argument. But that was the whole point of your post. It was to create a false argument and then lead us into your false choice. Correct? I believe that is an example of the use of a Hegelian dialectic.
However, if you define success as awakening the masses, showing them the extent of the rot within, exposing the infestation problem and showing them how to start the process of getting the country back on the right track, then I believe that was a huge success.
It’s not so much that President Trump showed us how to believe in him and his plans for our great nation and we should blindly follow his leadership. It’s that he showed us how to believe in ourselves again and how to get ourselves in action to start the long cleanup process ahead. The two feet in front approach, one shovel full at a time. We the People are the ones who are going to fix this. We don’t need to be forced into one of the two bad choices presented to us. There is a better path. We are in it for the long haul. It’s a message of hope. Yes, we can do this!
His message seems to be contagious. There is a great awakening taking place. Despite all the best efforts attempting to stop the momentum, with staged pandemics, staged lockdowns, staged supply shortages, staged media suppression and manipulation, staged voter suppression, fraud and manipulation, this storm is coming, and no one can stop it. I can’t remember any other leader who inspired unorganized, organically created masses of citizens coming together for boat parades every weekend in Florida or 80+ mile long car caravans in Arizona, or packed house rallies in every state from coast to coast. His message of Truth is getting through to the masses. And that’s a big f…ing deal!
Very good. The first rule of effective argument – attack the premise.
Strawman.
“….fixing everything that’s wrong with this country in four short years”?
He never said that.
He said “there was nothing of significance accomplished in his administration that has not been completely dismantled and undone by the coup d’etat of 2020.”
Which is true.
False argument tries to claim false argument. Meh.
Strawman? Oh, that’s so sweet. Thank you.
Now just so we’re clear, which one are you again?
Are you the Tinman, the Scarecrow or the Cowardly Lion?
I guess you could take your pick because you seem to lack what all three of these characters are lacking.
It takes a special kind of talent to “pretend not to know” as well as you have done here.
Congrats! You are special!
Covfefe!
You don’t know the expression “strawman’?
Or are you just embarrassed because you got caught using a false argument?
Good catch. I missed that. Thanks.
I believe the Japanese admiral after bombing Pearl Harbor, rather than celebrate, said, “I’m afraid we’ve awakened a sleeping giant.” This is DJT’s great accomplishment. We will not go back to sleep. Somehow, someway, by grit and prayer we will, by God, save this Republic.
Exactly!
His greatest accomplishment is the great awakening of We the People.
With that awakening came his message of hope and belief in ourselves. We got a taste of it and now we want more of it. No one is taking away or undoing that accomplishment. And boy are they trying to take it away!
I heard President Trump’s pastor when growing up was Norman Vincent Peale, author of The Power of Positive Thinking. Maybe that’s where President Trump learned the art of uplifting others with his positive message of hope.
I find it interesting you ignore the Republicans in the House and Senate in 2017-18. Paul Ryan wasn’t obvious enough for you?
Yea, we know, he said the word “pussy” 5 years ago. Could have saved all that typing.
Funny how the wildly unsuccessful Trump Presidency has a fatwa with his name on it issued by the bureaucratic surveillance state.
The soul of these trolls is crushed only by the fact that Trump isn’t sitting in solitary in one of DC’s gulags.
Gotta do better than an umpteen paragraph recycling of establishment effluent.
Talk about Monday morning quarterbacking…good grief!
Such a well crafted argument to throw in with Wall Street, the amoral partners of a criminal government, both of whom have destroyed our country to simply enrich themselves. Nope, I’m sticking with Trump. For me this is an unacceptable alignment. It is time to stand in the gap, most likely to be swept away, but Wall Street does not constitute “the enemy of my enemy”. Their endless schemes and financial gluttony are why we are about to face the barbarians at the gate. Wall Street only views us as an expendable flanking force. Clever individuals may live to fight again, but there is no honor in craven cowardice and accommodation.
DeSantis voted for TPP. You are on the side of the UniParty and either are a shill or are fooled by the propaganda. You lost me at “failed”. Trump was the most successful President in my lifetime and had almost no one on his side in DC. Obviously the pushing of DeSantis is failing and now they are going to the “none of it makes me happy.” Do me a favor and go back to Powerline or the Washington Post.
In your very first sentence you totally blew your entire argument. You said Trump is “failed”. I didn’t bother to read the rest. False premise -> garbage results.
TRUMP 2024
I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR DESANTIS.
Not under ANY circumstances?
Me either…under any circumstances.
After reading your novel, I expected you to say you weren’t going to vote anymore.
Fortunately your guesses == your “reality”.
Your guesses =/= ” reality”.
Fwiw my guesses about reality are faaaar different than yours. Additionally, my research has not lead to a “soul crushing experiebce”. In fact, my soul has never been more hope animated or joy full.
What I see happening world wide is a continuation of President Trumps oft articulated vision. I view it as the necessary Demolition Phase of Project MAGA.
Additionally, what’s happening, while necessary, imo could not have happened on the scale required, while President Trump was the DC WH Resident.
Hopefully you’ll remember, as I try to do, that beliefs typically hinder understanding/critical analysis. Perhaps this explains why autists are so.much better at it than non autists.
Best wishes.
I guess the best economy in a generation and historical economic gains for minority Americans is a big nothingburger to you.
Or energy independence and America world’s largest oil producer for the first time.
Or an historic peace agreement in the Middle East.
Or the revitalization of American manufacturing and the repatriation of American manufacturing plants from Mexico and other countries.
But no significant accomplishments – LOL at you.
I did not say there were no significant accomplishments. I said most of his significant accomplishments (including, by the way, all the ones you mention) were undone by a coup d’etat. Those are two totally different things.
I think this antipathy toward DeSantis is premature to say the least, and is giving aid and comfort to the democrat party. CTH is a Trumpian bastion, and there is nothing wrong with that, but this sort of my-guy-or-nobody thinking, and the unfounded accusation that DeSantis is “owned” is what got us Woodrow Wilson when Teddy Roosevelt ran third party. And Teddy was a great president, possibly our smartest and among our wisest, very much like Trump.
Ron being bankrolled by key figures in the anti America First movement, the effort to ruin and prosecute PDJT isn’t simply just inconvenient facts, it is an outrageous affront.
If I recall correctly, Griffin held a fundraiser for Barry Odroner, and collected more than a $1,000’000.00 for him.
Ron knows this will severely harm his chances, and yet he went ahead anyway.
Why?
Money. Ron wants it at all costs and does not care if you suffer.
Unfounded? You been skipping some posts here, I guess.
Wouldn’t it be ironic if the American people in polling favor DeSantis and yet Trump wins the primaries? Ever think that the democrat election stealing could be played out in republican primaries? You really think the left wants to risk losing to Big Ron?
The left would love to run a young Gavin Newscum against an old Trump with a lot of real or made up baggage. So, given the democrat effort to split the republican party and the ability to choose our candidate, don’t we think it is time to take a hard look at what is happening? Much of the anti RD info could very well be democrat dirty tricks meant to solidify MAGA voters with Trump.
If you think there is no misinformation designed to split us then you must not be a suspicious cat.
Big Ron is kind of puny, at a height of just 5’9”.
Hitler was 5′ 9″ too.
Hmmmmm.
There you go folks. Definitive proof of the evilness of Ron DeSantis. /s
Smaller than a lot of women.
Lets see some pictures of you and your family.
Democrats are active here and they don’t advertise that fact by touting typical Democrat dogma. If they did, no one would pay them any mind. They pick one area that’ll get almost the same result as voting for a Democrat: NOT voting for Republicans.
You’re crazy if…(I could just stop there). You’re crazy if you believe that DeSantis could withstand the onslaught of the last 6yrs that Pres Trump has endured from the time he came down the escalator with his NSA pick taken out right away, Russia Hoax, Impeachments 1 & 2, election steal, House raided post presidency, worldwide virus meant to destroy the economies, constantly being sued throughout his presidency…etc…
There is NO way ANY R could stand up to this and the only reason why Pres Trump did was because he wasn’t controlled by the very people you spoke of in your novel. He couldn’t be bought and yet we see that happening right now with DeSantis.
“Pew!” is an apt name for your little essay.
It’s a gaming reference, but whatever.
I will only vote for Trump! No more globalists!
Well said, and into some very strong headwinds. For starters, I would add, put not your faith in princes. God’s plan, which is often referred to on this site, is not our plan, and that’s for very good reasons.
Personally, I think you do not give Trump enough credit for having broken ground and thoroughly changed the conversation. His accomplishments were mostly temporary, yet there is no way to overestimate the importance of the Dodd decision, the repudiation of child sacrifice as a national policy being a change that will ring far into the future and which signals, I believe, a turning around of America’s fortunes after many years of dissolution and decline.
With all due to respect for our esteemed host, however, there is very good reason to conclude that you are correct and that the US Central Bankers are off the WEF reservation, if indeed they were ever really on it. As you outline, we find ourselves in the middle of a gangster turf war, and the possibility — indeed, I now see it as a likelihood — of derailing and overthrowing the monsters from Davos makes all other factors pale by comparison.
Davos is the enemy, not just of us but of all mankind. The Great Reset is an enterprise that makes all other totalitarian plans pale by comparison. The murder rate, if you include abortion, is in the hundreds of millions, and we are about to see the excess death rates from their damned clot shot continue for several years to come.
Don’t get me wrong. I love Trump and regard him as a courageous, even brilliant man whose presidency is among the most consequential of all time. Yet I do not believe that he can take down this monster, precisely because he does not have the guns to back him up that are necessary to do so, and because he has failed to overcome them for what has now become a period of years.
While I would lump Dodd and all judicial victories under the heading of the three SCOTUS picks, you are correct in pointing out how Trump indesolubly transformed the conversation, which should probably also be included in the short list of his accomplishments that were not undone by the coup d’etat.
I likewise share your regard for his courage and consequence, but if the conversation is about fighting and winning, there can be no honest assement other than failure, as winning is currently conceived. All that follows afterward is an honest assessment of our lack of such winning options, and how a remapping of the current world might help redifine our ideas of winning.
Dude, You have simply proven how little you knew or know of Trump and are an obvious Never Trumper. You probably supported Teddy Bear Ted at the time. After Trump’s announcement today, there will be absolutely NO WAY in hell DeSanctimonious can come close to Trump. The only wrong move any of us could make going into the future is NOT voting for Trump. Says alot about you if you can’t see that. Trump keeps promises he makes.
Trump is NOT OWNED. DeSantis IS OWNED. That is the difference.
People who are good, believe others are good. Trump has learned his lesson here, and so has his team.
Long piece of blather, signifying nothing. If it’s all about Wall Street, Trump knows them better than any politician ever will. DeSantis only takes their money. He has never made any himself and, therefore, is a typical political ‘ho.