The Democrat effort to obtain President Trump’s tax records has been an ongoing battle for several years [background here]. The democrats on the House Ways and Means Committee have been using Lawfare in order to present a false legislative justification for them, in an ongoing effort to find something -anything- to use against President Trump.
The Supreme Court already decided on case in President Trump’s favor [Trump v Mazars] in a separation of powers issue; however, the witch hunt continued. In a separate case today, and with Chief Judge Roberts trying to extricate the judicial branch from the ongoing battle, Judge Roberts granted a stay until after the 2022 election.
Essentially, the Chief Judge appears to see the partisan nature of the demand, and in an effort to keep the Supreme Court out of the battle, he has put the outcome of the 2022 midterm election as the fulcrum for this next round of battle between President Trump and the Democrats in the House. If the Republicans win the majority, the issue should seemingly disappear.
The motive behind the decision seems clear. From the position of Roberts, it would appear this approach is the better distancing procedure.
WASHINGTON DC – Chief Justice John Roberts on Tuesday temporarily blocked a House committee from obtaining several years of former President Donald Trump’s tax returns.
The chief justice ordered the stay to freeze the House Ways and Means Committee’s request for the documents, which Trump has fought for years. The former president on Monday filed an emergency application asking the Supreme Court to intervene in the case after a federal appeals court last week denied Trump’s request to block the release of his tax returns.
Roberts granted Trump’s request by placing an administrative stay on the tax returns, which is temporary and “pending further order of the undersigned or of the Court.” The chief justice gave the House panel until Nov. 10 to respond to Trump’s application to delay the committee from obtaining years of his tax records from the Treasury Department. (more)
If Democrats lose the House Speaker Nancy Pelosi will almost certainly retire, and the Committee chair assignments will flip to Republican control. It’s all about the politics of positioning… Judge Roberts is trying to find an exit for SCOTUS.
great photo of Trump & Vodka Skeletor
Should have had this photo of her and one of gazillary yesterday
“The shadow knows”
Ms. Lube Rack (she actually did win that title).
I thought is was Ms. Loose Rack. Hmmmm.
Sagging Chad Rack.
The Left’s shenanigans know no bounds! Hounding and cheating and lying are all they know.
They have nothing to run and raising taxes would be a death knell for them. So all they have is GOP bad!
PDJT’s tax returns are in Nanzi’s safe in San Francisco, and the notorious naked hammer guy is actually a rogue IRS agent.
I can’t believe I didn’t realize this sooner.
Did you also know it’s been shown that it was a hammer modified via Gain of Function research.
Look for a bill banning hammers and demanding buyers to be background checked. Theatre of the absurd.
Ole Joe is good for an appropriate quote now and then….”C’mon MAN”!
At least $100M, 40 FBI agents, Multiple lawyers, Lawfare, a hack DA from SDNY and a few others from other districts over the course of 6 years investigating PDJT and they got nothing.
Nothing says political witch hunt like that data set….
Nuff Z Nuff…
An FBI computer terminal setup at Lawfare!!
Lawfare most likely has an office in the DOJ Headquarters as Hillary’s lawyer Sussmann did in the FBI’s
And how much has it cost us taxpayers?
We may never know. It’s like those restaurants where they tell you, “If you have to ask how much something is, you can’t afford it.”
Probably the French Laundry has a little sign saying that somewhere…
“If you have to ask how much something is, you aren’t partying with Gavin.”
But at the restaurant we have the option say, “No thank you, it’s too rich for me” and walk out.
The corrupt Trump hating democrats are running out of options. And their fear of the real President Trump, is very obvious. The “diseased cadaver”pelosi isn’t the only crook leaving town if the house flips. It’s going to be some interesting times.
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 Praying daily the witch is gone!
If the House and Senate don’t flip than you know massive fraud is underway like it usually is . None of these races should be competitive.
The polls are designed to make races appear much closer than they actually are which aid’s election theft .
Vote in person on election day. Do not telegraph the margin of cheat required to steal the election.
I notice our corrupt SOS in Michigan is really pushing the use of no-excuse absentee voting……she’s trying to help election supervisors guage the amount of bogus ballots they need to manufacture for the 3am ‘pizza’ delivery like last time………
“What’s good for the goose, comes for the gander”, thought Roberts, I’ll bet.
If the brainless cretins who have pushed this all the way to the SC had a single sober moment, they could have seen they were all fair game as well…
But they don’t. So….
I believe they have so much confidence in their election “process” they have no fear of losing.
What they have, as well as that, is an overweening hubris and a sense of infallibility. No one would dare to demand they open their finances under court order so we could see the sources of all their “income”. Would they? After all, they are public “servants”, as was President Trump.
Lobbyists? China? Pharma? Insider trading?
All of the above. Get what they want from Mr Trump, that’s a precedent. No one is off limits…even Chief Justices of the Supreme Court. As I’m sure Roberts thought long and hard about. After that there are the Obamas, the Bushes, members of the CDC, the FDA…we could go on forever.
I mean, no one is “above the law”. Right??
Bet, and foreign aid, don’t forget the foreign aid.
“We have the largest voter fraud organization in history!” – FJB
What would they expect to find that is illegal that the IRS
hasn;t found.. I would think he is audited every year as his
taxes would be extremely complicated.. and as far as we
know the IRS has not found anything untoward.. with his taxes
or we would have heard about it…
Looking for the next Beria crime….or as Ayn Rand wrote…
“The only power any government has is the power supply to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.”
The Trump companies ARE audited every year, for valid reasons which are outlined in DJT’s second book “The Art of the Comeback”.
Apperently far too few have read this best seller, including the MSM, the DC elites, and most Americans.
Trial by public opinion. The Democrats will get to have hearings about Trump’s tax returns until November 2024.
And Trump does get audited on a regular basis because of (in part) the large write offs he took back in the day. So Democrats would be parsing words with their IRS allies about what constitutes a deduction etc …..
That would be comedy gold to watch Uniparty hacks arguing with IRS and Trump tax attorneys. And since most millionaires and billionaires use a lot of the same deductions Trump does, I can see where the donor class would be upset with the Democrats.
RIGHT! The average business tax return is about 85 pages. And they want YEARS of tax returns from PDJT and his 552 businesses?
“The motive behind the decision seems clear. From the position of Roberts, it would appear this approach is the better distancing procedure.”
All I read of this is an affirmation of how gutless Roberts is.
Why would he do such a “partisan” thing? … Didn’t Roberts insist the SCOTUS Judges have NO political bias?
He could insist all day long that the sky is blue.
I would still look out the window to check.
Indeed.
He could have thrown it out and told them not to bother with any more stupid sh*t.
but then he might not get invited to all the Right Parties in DC.
I completely agree with this assessment, and do not find fault with Roberts’ tactic.
The Supreme Court is not some grand oracle on the mountain. It is the third branch of a tripartite government and has a political role just like the other two. Pelosi and the House Democrats are just itching for a constitutional crisis and are doing their best to gin one up so they can go to war with Trump, the Supremes, and the constitution itself. Sidestepping their crap by delaying it into the new Republican Congress is the most effective way to address it. Well done, Chief Justice Roberts.
“Well done, Chief Justice Roberts.”
I wouldn’t give him I’ve too much credit. He’s still totally unreliable.
maybe…”someone” finally forced him do right thing….
He could have thrown it out, he didn’t , it’s only temporary
He’s a coward.
I disagree. Given the years of court battles that have already occurred on this issue, Roberts had a chance to slap it down for good.
Like always, he chose the easy way out.
All this does is buy time for the Lawfare hacks to sharpen their attack for the right time.
Roberts is a constitutional deconstructionist by practice.
Same as nearly the entirety of both the executive and legislative branches.
With that being said, the fourth branch effectively is the government. All else is secondary to their purposes and all will be brought to serve them.
He’s a Bush fluffler. Roberts will do what the old boss says to do, just in a roundabout way.
“Like always, he chose the easy way out.”
Always??
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The Supreme Court ruled in favor of Joseph Kennedy saying the Bremerton school district in Washington state was wrong to fire him for praying after football games with players of both teams. By a vote of 6-3, the justices ruled that Coach Joseph Kennedy’s conduct was protected by the First Amendment.
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The 6-3 decision overturned a lower court ruling…….. Writing for the majority, Chief Justice John Roberts agreed with the states that “it is not plausible that Congress gave EPA the authority to adopt on its own such a regulatory scheme.”
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the high court ruled the vaccine mandate was unconstitutional federal overreach –
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In Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization (2022), the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade (1973), which guaranteed a constitutional right to abortion.
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The Supreme Court ruled the Constitution provides a right to carry a gun outside the home,
Thanks SD. Independent here. Rs and Indies should not need any more motivation to work toward a House and Senate Repub majority. Assume nothing. Get to the polls and vote Rs (MAGA if you can) if you care about your personal freedoms and right to privacy.
I believe they have had all of President Trump’s returns fir a king time, and they have been carefully reviewed by DNC accounting experts.
They and have a line of attack laid out, which will comprise demands for substantiating documentation, and various allegations of tax fraud.
But they have to await the official release of the returns.
Yes…they have the returns…and know it will be difficult to prove anything in Court.
Just another attempt to keep our Lion in the above the fold news and continue the harassment.
Ah, but they have had the IMPLIED false narrative, for YEARS, which they benefit from;
“THEY (House Dems, SDNY, etc.) are trying to get DJT’s tax returns, and he is FIGHTING them. Ergo, he must have SOMETHING to hide!”
As long as they can continue to periodically get this narrative into the headlines, they keep it alive.
It’s looking like the lawsuit by the NYC AG’s office lawsuit against the Trump Organization for supposed nefarious business dealings is the Democrat dirty tricks squad’s backup plan for legally getting their hands on PDJT’s tax returns if their J6 attempt fails to get their hands on them so they can illegaly leak them to the press.
Pretty sure the dirty trick squad has had PDJT’s tax returns since the Mueller investigation, they just couldn’t figure out how to leak them to the press without getting caught.
These lefties always have back up plans, probably back ups to back up plans.
but, ‘them’ having facts,
has that been a deterrence to their other prior narratives?
‘they’ seem to be comfortable playing make up / pretend. (while undermining their credibility )
imho
I do not know
They likely acquired them illegally through their friends at the IRS, so they can’t just throw them out there. But it hasn’t been going their way and come January, they are SOL.
I’m at a loss for legit legal reasoning in demanding a private citizen’s tax returns. If it’s not the IRS, then who can hound someone without probable cause?
The Legislature has two recognised reasons for conducting hearings/investigations, both directly related to their role in writing legislation (despite the reality that they don’t write legislation).
The first is to use hearings to detirmine if NEW legislation needsto be written.
The second, “oversight” is to invedtigate whether current legislation is being enforced as the legislature intended.
The tenuous, bogus excuse they are using, is to see if they need to write legislation regarding Predidential tax returns, IIRC.
Its absurd, its blatant, its bullshit.
The so called ‘lawfare’ associates are an explicitly subversive one sided ideological entity weaponized with books and papers. Funded by equally subversive actors from the the financial and political swamp.
One facet of the revolutionary army of traitors obsessed with ‘fundamental change.’
If they were part of a conservative team they would be individually persecuted to the full extent and demonized forever
Without their unending parsing, twisting, distorting and redefining of words and concepts almost all the persecution of Trump and others would evaporate. And be shown as pure naked hatred.
Thought that Stephen Miller’s team was to be the answer to L-Fair?
Obvious that was not the case…
Need an answer to L/Fair by somebody on our side…anybody capable? Would think funding would not be an issue…
I had to dig, but I did find one legal initiative in which Stephen Miller’s America First Legal Foundation did participate (I was wondering about it).
Turns out they have been helping Naomi Wolf in her battles against the illegal COVID-1984 mandates. I do think that is a very good use of their time, because that particular tyranny has got to end…
However, oddly, that issue is not mentioned on their website, influencewatch.org – I learned about it separately. There are two initiatives mentioned: helping the state of Texas sue the Xiden regime over the fact that illegals aren’t jabbed (that one is sort of 🙄, but if they got Al Capone on tax fraud…), and a complaint letter (!) to the Dept of Education about CRT.
I wish that they would be doing more – a lot more. Overall they seem a tad Roosterish to me. Maybe Trey Goudy is a silent partner…
Hard to bring Lawfare down while they are joined at the hip with FIB
Pass a losers pays and this crap will stop, which is why they don’t. They all need to go.
It’s purely to have his taxes, try to find anything to keep him
From running and leak it
Plain and simple
This is war and we have to win BOTH the house and senate
Before coming down the escalator, DJT knew many would look under every rock and crevice to defame him. I have also believed that few people in this country could have been scrutinized to such an extreme and come out as scandal free as our great lion. I know that I could not. I have to ask for forgiveness and atone for my sins yearly. Pray and help others.
How long do deleted photos stay in a smart phone? Do they actually ever purge out? Asking for a friend👍
If you have to ask, that is probably the least of your worries. And how about discarded phones? Jk.
When do the leaks start?
Leaks? I bet many in the leftist media already have their stories written.
They will hit Publish 5 seconds after the Democrats get their rat claws on them in a manner that prevents blowback.
I am sure that the media already has full access to Donald Trump’s tax returns and has for quite some time…but, without a legal authorization for releasing them, they are stuck between a rock and a hard place. The fact that even John Roberts recognizes their request as such a cravenly naked political stunt that even he cannot go along with says a lot, IMHO.
Now they have to decide if it’s worth the possible blowback to have the NYT “leak” selected portions so as to make the President look “bad” before the mid-terms as a last ditch effort to taint the candidates that he is supporting. I’m sure there are LOTS of frantic conversations going on behind closed doors!
The Paul Pelosi stunt is blowing up in their faces. I honestly don’t think they “planned it” but they sure tried to use a drunken 2 AM fight between an dirty old man and a crazy young nudist to their advantage! The J6 “committee” was a total dud so they are running out of options to change the subject away from their abysmal record on inflation, energy, and the economy in general. They are cornered and they know it and unfortunately, that is when they are the most dangerous, because they have nothing to lose at this point!
When has legal ever stopped the left from leaking, they have it and it seems really have nothing but the normal business tax return of using the tax code to there advantage.
I don’t think dragging out that particular stinky dead horse (sorry for the image to horse lovers – they are magnificent animals, but dead, nothing is pretty) would do the DementoRats a bit of good.
If the media has already seen PDJT’s tax returns then we would have seen a leak somewhere about something salacious within those returns.
There isn’t anything salacious within those returns so this is all a charade intended to keep people off balance about President Trump and to cost him legal fees and keep draining his resources.
Until after the 2022 election. That still gives the communists 2 months to do what they want, and they will not let up until then.
This is true. The Dreaded Lame Duck will soon be upon us.
We’ll just need to hang in there…
That’s another bizarre constitutional oversight. IMO, any legislation passed and signed by lame ducks should be on hold pending confirmation by the incoming congress.
So ridiculous .
Dem’s have been flipping the school desks upside down that Trump sat in as a child in grammar school hoping to find improperly disposed of chewing gum that they can perform DNA tests on in an attempt to prosecute .
When he runs again they will come up with he is colluding with Mars and getting in on the early buys of real estate.
I am thinking the Democrats already have Trump’s tax returns courtesy the IRS. They just need legal approval, to cover their illegal possession of them, before turning over the returns with great fanfare to the press and Lizzard Cheney.
Continuing an earlier thought, the Roberts’ court will likely be the least consequential court, in terms of the law, in our history, avoiding meaningful decisions at all costs and only making meaningful decisions when 5 or more judges oppose Roberts. The only consequential thing about this court is it’s willingness to tolerate discord, conflict and fraud for the sake of avoiding decisions.
It’s not going to look good in the history books.
The below gentlemen shows how useless the USSC is .
JB. Williams
Mike Lindell has mentioned one low-level court somewhere that actually did look at his evidence without invoking “standing.” I forget the details and outcome, however.
BRAVO, cnash. It has forever bugged me that a reality like that doesn’t get mentioned. I watched several TV shows of the outcome of investigating election fraud, and STILL hear “There was no election fraud in 2020.” How is it the courts can eliminate themselves from the equation but they still can collect their salaries for doing nothing?
DeSantis knows what is going to happen. He waits to play his lead role in the Cabals shtshow. Sometime between now and middle of next year.
The game of thrones continues.Roberts not known for his decisiveness is he?Could he be a little nervous that the tide is turning and doesn t want to be on the wrong side of history?
Bingo!
Republicans need to get their messaging straight and brand the Democrats as the party of political persecution, propaganda, censorship, cover-ups, violence and hate. It’s true.
Why would the Republicans do that? It defeats their purpose–you know, the same purpose that the Dems have (destroying the USA).
Our Republicans have and will continue to do the job.
Blanket statements about the party will no longer apply as our hostile takeover proceeds.
Any given R will be either “with us or agin us.” And we’ll know very quickly who is who.
It won’t help. Do you think Genghis Kahn’s horrific practices hurt his standings with the Mongols? Contrary, they counted on it.
Didn’t Nancy lead a regulation or something fabout congress: senate committee members and inside trading/ investing??
Pandora’s box of investment and money – making via taxes has been opened.
Patience; the best is yet to come
they waived its application to Congress and staffers in 2012 IIRC
In our faces,,,,, theives!
What about once they’re regular citizens?
Do the vile Dems already have his returns?
How many insiders would it take?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/treasury-employee-charged-with-leaking-financial-info-of-trump-team
The corrupt 0bama regime already looked at Trump’s returns and found nothing and if Mueller / Weissman could have articulated a legitimate criminal investigative purpose to look at them, they could have without a warrant or subpoena (they claim they didn’t, but I don’t believe that for a second) . . . . this is – and always has been – nothing but a Red Herring for the rabid left to latch on to and drool over …. just like everything else.
The forthcoming frivolous record retention indictment notwithstanding, in 2024 they’ll have to deal with Trump on the issues and they already lost that battle ..BIG TIME.
This tax return thing is such a joke. What most people don’t realize is that Trump’s personal tax returns likely don’t provide much information. He does everything through a web of 800 or so companies. It’s those returns that would provide information. However, I was glad he stood on principle and refused to disclose his tax returns. He hasn’t had a long career in government with the corresponding risk of improper income from political supporters or, like in Biden’s case, hostile and/or corrupt foreign governments. Even if the Supreme Court orders it, he should still refuse. A republican house will drop it anyway.
If there was ever any wrong doing in his tax fillings, the IRS would have already leaked it! Guaranteed!
How about that idiot lezbo on MSDNC Madcow that screamed about having one of PDT’s tax returns. Those returns showed he paid more taxes than he was required to pay. Blew up in her face.
If Democrats lose the House Speaker Nancy Pelosi will almost certainly retire, and the Committee chair assignments will flip to Republican control.
But not until January 2023.
Plenty of time for Uniparty hacks to go scorched earth.
I imagine there would have been a bunch of splodey heads if Justice Roberts had granted the stay until 1 February 2023.
Roberts is a first team all-pro Punter.
It was a good decision.
For now.
It would have been better if Roberts Stayed the Decision until Jan 3, not Nov 9.
They will be on their holiday break and travelling the world on the taxpayers dime for their committee work. Pray and help others
id venture to say the CONgressCritters have had his returns for long enough to set him up for something. anything to defame him in a hope to prevent him from running, or (GASP!) even winning. watch their lawfare coordination next year.
President Trump should offer to release his tax records to the 1/6 committee in 66 years—just as the FBI has proposed to do with the Seth Rich laptop and files they say they never had.
Using every dirty trick in the book to opposition research.
” If the Republicans win the majority, the issue should seemingly disappear.”
This will never end.
President Trump knows it,
We know it,
They know it.
The Republican majority could pass a bill requiring any candidate for national office to submit to a five year backward looking tax audit before being allowed on the ballot. Would be brilliant & 100% in the public interest – which is why it will never happen.
Lets look at obitem, bjand hitlerys, and pelosis and schumers and bidens and hunters and boxers and coumos etc etc.
Scotus, under Roberts has tried to steer clear of election issues. Only to find itself being forced to do something! The courts weaselness gave the leftist space to undermine everything. The left not being satisfied, they continued to push for every avenue to destroy Trump and his family. And of course they went too far, and now, it may be that the status Quo has changed. Now, the court may find themselves in the position of actually having to upholding the constitution, again. Making leftist blow their lids. Again. Add this to the abortion issue, and sanctioned reverse discrimination via affirmative action against white people. The scotus is rising.
Remember the mysterious tax return that showed up in Rachel
Maddow mail box that she gleefully waived around and talked about
till they realized it showed the POTUS paid more taxes than others
and the deductions were all LEGAL… Since POTUS never sued
them for that it was speculated at one time that he might have
sent them..anonymously?
The Dems have politicized everything. To keep out of politics, Roberts will have to see nothing, hear nothing, know nothing, and do nothing. Profiles In Courage, indeed.
I suspect they already have President Trump’s tax returns,
however, need a legal reason to post, exploit and lie about them.
The Dems are relentless a-holes. Check that. Relentless psychotics.
“Where’s the goddam ice cream!”
With a name like Dick Neal, the MA leader of the Ways and Means sounds like he may have been a close late-night friend of Paul Pelosi’s.
Was Katanji foaming at the mouth and screaming NO when Roberts gave his order ??
The IRS recommends you keep your tax returns for 3 years as the statute of limitations for audit purposes in 3 years. Wouldn’t it be to Trump’s benefit to destroy all previous tax returns. Or at least make it appear as they have been destroyed.
If Trump doesn’t have anything to hide, I’d keep them as long as possible just as a big “FU” to them. That’s what pissed them off the last time when they spewed the bs about “Well, he didn’t pay this amount on his taxes.” then went on to brag how he took advantage of the way the rules are written.
Roberts’s decision no doubt protects 0bama as well, it’s got nothing to do with Trump.
Funny how these politicians want a successful business persons taxes who turned politician?
What the people want is Pelosi/Biden/Gore/Clinton/Obama taxes. Never built anything, employ hardly any and yet become millionaires and billionaires?
Now that’s a story.
Yes..but where is the leaker of the Dobbs draft? There were only a handful of people with access. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out who did the deed.
What’s with the earring? Does it really help?