The anniversary of the attacks on 9-11 presents a day to reflect, remember and pay tribute to those we lost. I am sure most of us remember exactly where we were at the moment when we found out our nation was under attack. Our nation was forever changed by those moments on September 11th, 2001.
Perhaps we can share our memories together as we think about the anniversary of this date.
Where were you on that day? And what memories are most vivid for you?
~ The Better Option ~
He stared toward a cloudless sky; a tear was present in his eye.
What did he see I wondered aloud – this man of strength did not look proud.
Transfixed we watched through a camera’s lens, strangers before, now oddly friends.
What are his eyes held witness to? What’s stirring such tears of painful hue?
Electronically we were connected, our lives attached, a stopped nation affected.
What horror was there, upon his gaze? – What caused such pain amid the haze?
Some sounds not known were heard aloud – and people screamed amid the crowd.
We struggled to sense what view they saw; the fireman’s face was present more.
His sorrowed eyes bleeding despair – my God, what was he seeing there?
I could not move, we stood transfixed, my view of hell would soon be nixed.
He bore my witness through those flames, this hell on earth from terror planes.
Our Eagle screamed….. the metal cracked; two once proud towers stood attacked.
The human toll still yet unknown, our feeling safe was overthrown.
Finally, as I stared, I recognized….. what was causing those tears in that fireman’s eyes.
Oh – My – God, humanity was being lost – and helplessly we saw the cost.
The sound of people,… people, jumping down, from towers strong in our New York town.
Locked in horror, frozen, all there stood – bewildered eyes saw nothing good.
We viewed a scene of great despair…amid evil, smoke, and hate filled air.
Connected witness we became, to terror’s rage and human pain.
Trapped atop a blinding heat, were once moms and dads upon the street.
A “better option“?… caused by hate – to leap the flames and own your fate.
More horrid thoughts we’d never known, not from before the glass had blown.
Theirs was not an option for the stair, their only choice hands locked in prayer.
I cannot grasp the thoughts that crossed – the minds of those loved, soon to be lost.
As victims now…. their life soon ceased, a hurling body – soul released.
and for those who bore witness, my God the pain; those memories seared will long remain.
Connected all we stood aghast, all witness to the terror blast.
Their bodies torn; their spirit lost; memories now……. a priceless cost.
But what we have now to decide; reflecting on this place they died.
The Blood-soaked ground, the empty skies, our throat in knots, our tear-filled eyes.
A memory now so deeply burned, their sacrifice for us was learned.
The hurt, the pain, the bitter sorrow, must guide us now toward tomorrow.
For those we loved, and families lost, no gold of man can count the cost.
Through the eagles’ tears our nations price, we must honor those of sacrifice.
How do we honor such courage bold and warm our souls despite the cold.
A daunting charge ‘mid our mortal stage – to reflect that courage amid our rage.
Two decades past and now we find – our hearts, our souls, our tears, our mind.
Still harken back and feel those tears; the wound -the scar- through many years.
Memories honored must remain, our task in life to cherish that pain…
For souls we lost, and sorrow bound – we must always respect such hallowed ground.
~Sundance
It was my daughter’s 6th birthday. We celebrated on a camping trip with friends the previous weekend and with her best friend the night before. I could barely light the candles and sing happy birthday that night.
Like most people, I was at work. I was familiar with western Pennsylvania and when they announced a plane was down near Jennerstown (Shanksville came later) my immediate reaction was that we had shot down a plane. When people asked why I said because there was nothing in or near there except a Saturday night type race track. No one had objections if we had shot it down.
I think GLOBALISM began long before that, it was just one of many incidents where it made its presence known, by overt action.
I got a call from a friend to turn on the tube.
Immediately, I then called my sister to do the same.
-Together, we watched in real time…..
and then ….. saw the second tower get hit and implode.
I get the willies every time I remember.
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I remember being shocked when the towers collapsed neatly into themselves. Knowing this was impossible just from the plane strike and subsequent fire. I was scared. I’m not scared anymore. The terrorists may be dead but the people who dropped those magnificent buildings are still out there. God bless.
You and Rosie O’Donnell attended the same University of structural engineering, I see …
Sorry, but you are an ignoramus.
We do, by the way, live in the Empire of Lies.
Ive been saying this for years.
Evidently, these facts have not broken through to the mainstream thinkers. The vid I speak of is made for others, who can understand the numbers and facts. It is put together with much technical speak. That was intentional. To try and get other experts to start talking about truth and physics. Those who KNOW, KNOW~! Much in the mold of Dr Malone and so many others, who encouraged the medical and scientific community to start talking facts about CV-19.
That production was flawless and full of 100 per cent fact, known to anyone in the fields associated with this day….Sept 11th should have been a warning, taken seriously.
We now find ourselves under the boot of the same Communist SOB’s behind 9/11. And yet there are those who not only deny the science and truth, you have them attack you, right here on CTH.
My posts are now being moderated. I see that. Im not sure why.
Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth: The Explosive Evidence is without comparison. Those experts are the real deal. Not a liar or conspiracist among them.
Anyone who says otherwise is lying or refuses to see what the evidence says.
It shocks me to this day, especially given the actions of the same group, the behind the scenes powers, who over the last 2 years, have given us the Covid lies….the Green New Deal among others.
Same people. Same goals. Same old, same old.
Its frustrating. 🙁
except THOSE buildings by design will collapse that way….they were not built with typical pillar and beam support with a central core stabilizing their structure……..THAT design is more like the old Chinese handcuffs…… all the structural strength is built into their SKINS…..as they were UNIQUE in their design OFC no one had ever seen their like fall before……….the individual floors were set in place by hanging them from the outer structure then pouring concrete in a pan…..with the long burning high heat kerosene fires enough to SOFTEN tempered steel the hanging pins just pulled loose from their moorings…..this caused the concrete and steel floors to PANCAKE downward gathering momentum and generally being contained with the mostly intact EXTERIOR structural web……as a few floors had been added there was no stopping it
Yes as shown by Tom Fitton/Judicial Watch’s video obtained via a FOIA a few years back.
My brother was a VP for Bank of America in DC. He was in his office the morning of 9/11. One of his execs whose husband worked for a government intelligence agency came over to him immediately after the plane crash in Pennsylvania and told him her husband had just called and told her another plane was in the air over a county in Pa and had been shot down. He was so preoccupied with the Pentagon disaster he didn’t understand what she was even saying but remembered it later and told me. I said, “wow, what?”
I was commuting to NoVa at the time to get my Master’s at George Mason U but had no classes that day and had the house to myself. All the kids were at school and my husband was at work. I was so relaxed with my coffee at 9 and turned on Fox and Friends. That was it. Called my brother that night and heard what his co worker told him. Weird.
A 10 foot hole, in an interior wall, and we are expected to believe that was a large passenger jet?…lol.
Titanium, does not vaporize or disappear. I think most intelligent people know that. Experts definitely know it. Metal experts for sure know it. ( There are some supposed experts here, right now, telling us to shut up, dont ya know!…lol!)
The wing span of that supposed aircraft is much, much larger, than the damage area, in the façade of the building. That is in your face obvious, and the vid and pics do not lie, but yet we are told that this is a conspiracy theory? It is there, in our faces!…wow!..lol
Yet the supposed patriots, who tell us to shut up and not question that day, have seen the same thing, but we are to ” shut up” or you are a conspiracy theorist!? If you happen to understand the physics and science and the massive lies, you are NOT to speak here on CTH, or else they will ” beef with you”…LOLOL! According to at least 1 hardcore super patriot, knower of all things scientific,, I am to not speak of such things…. Here, of all places. Has he asked Ad Rem or Sundance if I have to shut up, or is that just a joke? 😉
( See one like that below. Dont question anything! Or else!…lmao!}
I have witnessed the aftermath of several CA wildfires and seen whole automobiles reduced to 4 piles of black smudges where the tires were … and a puddle of melted aluminum where the engine block was. Entire airliners “disappearing” (they didn’t) is not difficult to understand at all.
titanium engines built to survive an internal explosion do not “disintegrate”
Correct, neither do the wheel assembly’s.
Ask our resident experts to look up other plane crashes, and show us a pic where engines and wheels are not visible. 🙂 Even if it nosed in, at 500 knots…
They can show us the pics. 🙂
Kenji, what you ” think” or saw, is not in the same realm as 110 story buildings and their composition. Nor structural steel melting so fast, the entire building came down, in seconds…..impossible. It really is.
Only 1 thing on earth, can remove the connections that fast, and it isnt jet fuel or furniture. Your opinions or assumptions, in the face of real science and physics, doesn’t hold water.
You saw a car burn, therefore a building with Grade A steel can melt, and freefall, without explosives.
Nonsense. Complete and utter nonsense
Thousands of connections can sever at high speed, in milliseconds? From fire?….From jet fuel?? Right…….” sigh”.
I just cant with you people anymore. I just cant.
( That you come here and post and read, should open your mind, to the possibility, it was an inside job, from the same lowlifes who stole an election, and are taking us apart, piece by piece. I guess you figure the Patriot Act was made up in weeks too….All a coinkidink huh?…lol!)
Kenji. Kenji, Kenji…wake up man.
I see there is no talking to people like you.
Watch the video I told you to watch and get back to me.
What you witnessed was not the results of natural, mere “wildfires.” There’s more to it than you know.
My uncle was a lifelong fireman (went all the way up the promotion ladder, too) in Los Angeles, from the end of WWII to his retirement just a few years ago.
He told everyone who would listen that over 98% of forest fires and wild fires were caused by human beings, either accidentally or on purpose.
And there are capabilities right now of the military — specifically the air force, in the cases of the recent strange “wild fires” in Northern California, especially in Santa Rosa — that ignite and burn by an aimed power beam, where it is directed to all but vaporize targets while leaving adjacent things — trees left untouched while immediate neighbors exploded in flames; trees burning from the inside out; one half of a house turned to ashes, along with everything in the rooms, wood or metal, while on the other side of the wall NOTHING was even smoke stained. Whole streets of residential areas, ashes, while bushes and trees on those properties totally untouched. Cars melted, nothing else touched. Not “normal” “natural” fires. And interestingly, Santa Rosa had resisted the political “environmental” policies the local and state governments had tried to impose on them. And now, all rebuilding is limited to only what the greenies dictate. And no wood burning fireplaces permitted to be built in any new homes.
Especially over the winter of 2017-2018, there were several of these devastating “wildfires” in Northern California. Strange fires you shouldn’t look too closely at, or you might come to the (rational) conclusion there was nothing natural or normal about them and the way they burned or “chose” what to burn. Several local firefighters are on record with their observations.
And wonder of wonders! Not too far away is an air force base where they test top secret new weapons.
But hey, it’s all the fault of slip-shod maintenance by the local power company.
Yeah.
You can still find videos and documentation of these strange fires on YouTube, I believe. If not there, probably on Bitchute and/or Odysee and/or Rumble.
MSM has no record of the strangeness and anomalies. Of course.
Thanks for taking the time to post on this. I’ve actually looked into some of those fires and they are definitely beyond suspicious. I used to have a friend who was a retired firefighter and I showed him videos of the damage from those suspicious Northern CA fires and he said they were NOT normal. So, yeah, I think those were from advanced military weapons, but of course it was blamed on “climate change” because that is a big agenda item of the psychopaths who rule over us. And “climate change” (renamed because it was obvious there was no “global warming”) is just a cover for policies that are going to lead to massive genocide on an epic scale (billions).
Yes, Amanda! Since at least 2017 there have been so many suspicious “wildfires” in California, Colorado, and northern Arizona.
It’s very, very creepy. And yes, as those not sleep-walking by now in the last two and a half years have come to realize, genocide by democide is indeed advancing like . . . well, [shudder!] wildfire!
BAMN: By Any Means Necessary.
TPTB are NOT any human being’s friend! People need to extend their plain sight to all the various ways this is being carried out! It’s not just through Big Pharma, or invented “wars,” exploding and burning food processing plants and animal farms and ranches, sudden water supply failures and cut-offs, crops destroyed and farms bought up and laid fallow, or seeds disappeared, fertilizer vanished/prohibited, “supply chains” disrupted and halted, truckers stalled, gas and diesel prices out of reach of everyday necessity, travel restrictions, cancellations of flights and trains, roads and bridges rendered impassible by decades of neglect, food and necessities shortages, laws against growing your own food, stocking up, being prepared for shortages and outages, anything making yourself independent of government, etc.
It’s not just one thing. And it’s not stopping. The in-our-faces drama of 9/11 was the opening salvo; it is not disconnected from the rest of the incidents of destruction and exercises in control over us of the whole following years since! We can’t afford to keep our gaze on one thing at a time. 9/11 was SUCH a shock that we didn’t learn the real lesson. We need to shed our naivte about “our” government, and about the people who are in positions of power over us, that none of them are benign, and realize the real danger we’re in, and NOW is the time to stop it!
As the song says, “It’s now or never . . . tomorrow will be too late!” It’s a hard thing to do, but unless we want to annihilate our surviving children’s future, we must.
Sounds overly dramatic, but it’s not: humanity is at stake. The facts — the stated intentions and actions of our overlords — surround us!
You must be my long-lost beloved sister!
Thank you!!!
Yes, there is SO MUCH available to learn the truth of these events. I echo your recommendations for all the information and resources you post! Thank you!
And SO MANY who prefer their blinders, who steadfastly refuse to exercise their God-given curiosity even to try to find out and learn. [sigh]
But those who DO know, who DO care, who ARE learning and spreading the resources, give me great hope! Thank you! Thank you!! Thank you!!!
Great chatting with you, GrayCat! I’ll continue to watch for your posts here. I do my best to share what I have learned and to spread the word!
Oh, and I like this from above–very catchy, I think I will use it:
genocide by democide is indeed advancing like . . . well, [shudder!] wildfire!
Back atcha!
I watch for all your posts! Enjoy very much!
Use whatever you like! Whatever helps!
Be well, dear friend, and safe in His arms, protected from harm and the evil ones. I gotta go for the night.
Correct BOTN. Photos do not show jet airliner wreckage in PA. Just two short-ish furrows in the ground that meet head on.
I was at work. We had a tv on in the break room. We all gathered there after the first plane hit. Everyone thought it was a horrible accident. Then we all watched the second plane hit. It is still the angriest moment of my entire life. The people of Afghanistan should thank God everyday that George W. Bush was president on 9/12 and not me.
Outstanding.
I was at work in South Carolina, my family scattered all over. My Mom in Tennessee, my sister and baby niece in Kentucky, and my Dad was in New York. Everyone was okay but it was hard work trying to track everyone down as the phone networks were overwhelmed or not working.
It was a tragic day I will never forget.
msn.com, on the other hand, had only two throwaway references to 9/11 on their site earlier today (I checked because I wanted to see how they would cover it)… and both were in reference to Potatus referring to the Queen.
I left work and stopped to pick up my daughter at school. Lots of parents had already done so and the office was chaos. I asked if I could help since it was a small (175 students maybe) Lutheran school and was given the student list and asked to call parents and let them know school was closing ASAP so they needed to pick up their kids. I never made one call because I was too busy answering calls from parents who said they were on their way and they hoped that wouldn’t be a problem.
I was on a business trip to Lebanon, Tennessee. Planes hit about an hour into work. Hotel across highway from airport, quietest week ever. I was on first flight out of reopened airport to get back to Texas. Wouldn’t give up car rental until flight okayed.
Was moving a dozer from one construction job to another. All the sudden traffic stopped. That’s when I heard about it. My youngest was home on leave from the Army and we had The Talk. The next morning I watched my Son leave to go to War. One of the hardest days I ever had. He was escorted back to Oklahoma by truckers. God bless those guys!
Weirdness alert!
I just parked my Dozer an hour before the 1st plane hit, and it was going to be moved, to another site. Wow…lol.
I did the night shift, and got home only a few minutes before it all started. The universe works in strange ways friend…..
Sure does!!
May GOD watch over the families that lost their loved one(s) September 11, 2001.
WE WILL NEVER FORGET.
GOD BLESS THEIR SOULS.
I was in training in Kansas City. A day or 2 before 9/11, I saw in the newspaper that the leader of the Northern Alliance had been assassinated, and although I never read the article, I had such a feeling of dread.
On the morning of 9/11, we had a break around 8:45, which meant everyone was getting back to the classroom just before 9am.
Someone came into the classroom and said an airplane just hit the World Trade Center. I thought a small Cessna flew into it in cloudy weather. Everyone went back to the breakroom to watch what was happening on TV.
Stunning, shocking, horrible, but silent.
Some kind of LEO group had training in the same building. All plainclothes, but badges on their belts, etc. They too came down to the breakroom and watched for about 10 minutes, then all disappeared.
Everyone stayed glued to what was happening on the TV even after the buildings collapsed.
At some point that morning, we were told to go back to the hotel and wait for word on whether there would be any more training. The hotel seemed empty, but everyone was in their rooms watching.
That evening, a couple of us wandered out to find something to eat. Many were still in their rooms watching.
The hotel, being close to the airport meant flight crews overnighting. The night before on 9/10, there were a couple stewardesses and a pilot at the hotel bar. I could overhear they were flying to Boston early the next morning.
On the evening of 9/11 watching on the TV in the hotel bar, I will never forget the young foursome sitting at a table whining about the football game not being on.
Tents were set up on the airport since air travel was shut down. No rental cars, or even U-Haul trucks were available to get home.
A couple days later, a buddy called and said he managed to get a rental car, so he and I and another friend were finally able to get home. The 8+ hour drive was mostly silent with the radio on.
RIP to the 2977 lost on that day.
I was at work in Wales, in a small town, in a gift shop looking out of a window at the street which was full of tourists, all completely unaware of the devastation and horror. It was in the afternoon, our being 5 hours ahead of the early morning atrocity which shook the world. A good friend in town phoned me with the news.
It was difficult to reconcile the normal life I was seeing at that moment with the utter devastation being experienced by those in New York.
I couldn’t get home until 6 o’clock my time to turn on the telly to face the reality of what had happened. Everything which occurred then and after has irreparably changed our lives and not for the better.
But on that day, the image that stays with me is the iconic photo of the falling man, which I will never forget.
God eternally rest the souls of those whose lives were lost that day and those whose lives were later cut short from the effects of that terrible, terrible attack…and may He keep in His watchful care all the families who that day suffered unendurable and irreplaceable loss.
New York City officials have lots to hide about 9-11 air qualityhttps://flyingcuttlefish.wordpress.com/2022/09/10/911-air-quality/
” Our nation was forever changed by those moments on September 11th, 2001.”
Just by the so called “Patriot Act”, about the most unpatriotic thing imaginable
And why the political prisoners of January 6 sit incarcerated in the hellhole that is the DC Gulag. A far reaching effect of that (to steal an historical reference) day of infamy.
ready and waiting for the event used as a catalyst to pass it…..I did a report on it in college that not only changed my view on its utility but further pitted me against the government when I saw they had used this unifying event to gain an advantage over the American public
Indeed. We were WARNED at the time that this Act could and would be weaponized against innocent Americans … and those naysayers were RIGHT! 100% RIGHT. What a sad day for America … The “Patriot Act” may indeed utterly DESTROY America as we have known Her.
I still cannot believe the speed with which they brought that Patriot Act out for signing by GWB. You know it was already a done deal! I was in FL, not many miles south of where they learned to ‘fly’ the planes at the little airport in Venice. DH had left for work, called me at a few minutes before 9:00 and told me to turn the TV on. Just then the second plane hit as I started watching. I have seen reporting of a house in Sarasota that looked like people just up and left. Food on the table, etc. Might be some of the ones GWB let get out of town.
I was at work setting up a job for drilling/explosives engineering services…After blasting drilled pattern, went to a local vendor and saw the second plane hit on TV. Announced to all employees to take the rest of the day off. Two of those employees signed up as Marines the next day. I never saw them again. God Bless and protect the USA…
Retired Magistrate here: I was in the middle of writing a decision and I had music on as I usually did when the music was interrupted by a special announcement. At first I thought this can’t be happening; it must have been an accident and then the second plan struck the second tower: we were under attack.
I left my office and told the Judge I worked for. We discussed the situation and decided that with a whole courtroom full of people waiting for my next case, that we would proceed and so we did. I can’t remember the outcome of the proceeding, but do remember that everyone was very somber and the case settled quickly.
Life went on in our Court House because because that is what Americans do; we grieve but we go on.
Taszar, Hungary
This was something I wrote down on Friday, following the service at the National Cathedral and then President Bush going to Ground Zero. I gave it to my Grandmother and Mom to read when my Mom was over visiting us in Rancho Mirage – Mom and Dad lived in Bermuda Dunes – that’s all in the Coachella Valley, where Palm Springs is – everyone driving around here in the valley had American flags ALL OVER their cars, not just one flag.
My Grandmother and Mom wanted me to send this to the local paper, so I did and they actually published it although they did cut it down just a bit (took out all the Hummels, etc.).
September 14, 2001
I am here with my 98 year-old Grandmother in her little place, way far away from where everything happened on September 11, 2001. Peaceful when you look outside, the sky bright blue and balmy desert breezes, a roadrunner and a cat named Leo who likes to sleep on the ledge are the only things moving out there.
Inside, Grandmother’s apartment is filled with decades of love tokens from loved ones. And little children all around, her children and grandchildren in picture frames. And little chubby Hummel children: book readers, cake bakers, flower givers, umbrella toters, musicians. And Toby jugs in the hutch, looking down benevolently . . . all those kindly, cheerful, whimsical faces of Dickens characters, Bacchus, and Pearly King, among others.
Grandmother wants me to play some music for her; so, I get the old Orgasonic revved up and play “Edelweiss”, “Irish Eyes” and that part of “Clair De Lune” that I know.
“Honey, when are you going to learn the rest of that?”
I tell her that I finally bought the sheet music and I am going to work on it.
I think of all this peace and coziness here, and how much my Grandmother and I have . . . then I wonder, to myself, how much would any of this be objectionable to those terrorists who might have done even more to our country if their other efforts had not been thwarted.
I turned off the news a while the other day and listened to Maria Callas in “Tosca”. The terrorists would not have liked that. No opera. No Frank Sinatra or Elvis Presley, either. No “Clair de Lune”.
I think what we ought to do, in defiance of those who would destroy all that we consider precious and civilized, in addition to flying our flag, and singing “God Bless America” and shouting “USA! USA! USA!” . . . we ought to fill our homes with all the music each of us loves and give the gift of music to the children in our lives; give them music lessons: piano, violin, guitar, flute, clarinet, cello . . . whatever it is that suits them, and give it to them NOW, for it is needed now, more than ever.
I think of the Ray Bradbury novel, “Fahrenheit 451” where there were hidden groups of people who memorized the great works of literature and passed them on, because the books that had contained them were no longer allowed. If these same people who attacked the World Trade Center and the Pentagon had their way, the great literature and music and art that we cherish would be destroyed . . . and so would all the little knick-knacks be that lit up a dear old face.
Let us have a lot of music, and every song is an anthem of defiance against those who would destroy who and what we love.
Published in “The Desert Sun” (Palm Springs, California) on November 9, 2001 as a “Valley Voice” article; they edited it and titled it “Let’s Blast Away the Darkness of Terror with Music”
I had just gone to bed after working a midnight shift out of the Northeast State Police Barracks in Cecil County, Md. My daughter had come into the bedroom to tell me to turn on the tv. I turned it on just in time to see in real time, the second plane hit the towers. I called the barrack to see if they wanted me to return to work, but they told me to get plenty of rest and that we would probably be going into 12 hour shifts after that.
I was getting ready for work when I saw the news on Fox. I worked in a shoe store, and my boss said he was going to open the store. So I drove to work, and mine was the only vehicle on the road. I told my boss I could have rollerbladed nude in the middle of the highway and no one would have known. We had no customers, so we mostly stood in the front windows and watched the news on the large TV across the street in the barber shop. Our regional boss called and said to go home.
About 8am-ish I called a buddy to make plans for later. He told me turn on my TV. With him on the phone, I did. First plane had already hit. Watched 2nd plane hit. I was beyond furious. Ready to lock and load and rock and roll then and there. “Kill them all. God knows his own.”
Western Christendom battled Islam to the south and east, barbarians to the north and west, and plagues, famines, and feudal warfare at home. Then there was the problem of heresy, sprouting both local varieties and exotic foreign species.
Of the former strain, thirteenth-century Catharism was viewed as perhaps the most poisonous. At least it elicited the fiercest response. First the Cathars weathered a particularly vicious crusade: 20,000 people were slaughtered in the city of Beziers alone after the monk in charge of the assault, when asked how to distinguish heretics from Catholics, replied, “Kill them all, God will know his own.” Surviving Cathars then became the original targets of the Inquisition.
The Cathars receive much nicer treatment from journalist Stephen O’Shea, who traces their history in his lively new book The Perfect Heresy: The Revolutionary Life and Death of the Medieval Cathars (Walker & Company). He labels them “a pacifist brand of Christianity embracing tolerance and poverty” and groups them with the pre-Protestant Waldensians as legitimate challenges to an authoritarian church. However, he also admits that they were “well and truly heretical, by every definition except their own.” Let me just say that I appreciate his narrative more than his judgment.
There’s no doubt that the Cathars, who called Languedoc (now southern France) home, were revolutionary. Dissatisfied with a church accumulating temporal wealth and authority, they adopted a gnostic dualism: …
Knowing what we know now about the evil of our “government”, it’s not beyond the realm of possibility to believe things we never thought we would believe.
Think about it, Osama killed his enemies. Our government is in the process of wanting to silence, punish, economically destroy its own citizens. And it will kill its own citizens.
I was getting ready to head to work. We were working on a specific intel analysis system for the military. Watching the TV alerted me to what was going on. Cell phones were jammed…broadcast TV was shut down (antenas on top of WTC destroyed. Net cable only at that point.Headed in to the office. Several members of our company were called in..retired SEals, military, Spec Ops, etc. We were able to get camera feed through a back door on the net where we could watch. We went on high alert. I remember the reports of several aircraft flying over various areas of DC…heard the words “the Mall is on fire”. That turned out not to be true. Invited everyone back to my house to sit and wait. Most came. Sat in disbelief as it unfolded. More disbelief came over the course of weeks/months when I realized that we had the intel to stop it and the feds did nothing a’priori. Thank Gen. Hayden for that. But the next 10+ years of my life were spoken for in the warfighter effort. Just so you know..not everyone who says they are on our side are not. Trump was right.
My better half, and Marine husband was in the Pentagon that day. Thankfully, he survived. Lots of stories he and his fellow Marines tell about that day.
Ill bet they have a lot to say, off the record. Im sure……
Saw it on TV. I was a US Customs Inspector. I rushed to the Port of Entry. Nobody knew anything. Totally out of the loop.
An attack was not unexpected. Many of us (Customs and INS) had puzzled over the lack of Federal interest in counter terrorism, and believed a major terrorist action would occur.
In April of 2000, for example, the Millennium Bomber (Ressam) had entered Port Angeles, bound for LAX with a trunk load of high explosives. He was intercepted by inspectors, but they were unable to arrest him because Commissioner Raymond Kelly had suspended Customs Inspectors’ arrest authority nationwide. So they held him under citizens arrest authority. The US Attorney’s office in Seattle declined the case.
The Port Director of Port Angeles then contacted Border Patrol (who still had arrest authority), and eventually Ressam was arrested, indicted and convicted.
Several Port Angeles inspectors received letters of reprimand from Commissioner Kelly for pursuing Ressam when he fled, and stopping him from carjacking somebody.
Now, you might think this would have been a wake up call. But no.
Its almost as if we don’t have the truth.
TWA 800 was a manpad attack on a US airliner a mere month before the 1996 Atlanta Olympics is one of the stronger theories…..that there was such a rush to have the F-B-I take over and the continued coverup of the event seems to support this as a cause
you are right gravity causes things to fall DOWN….straight down given the opportunity….while WT-7 is questionable the “controlled demolition” of WT-1 and 2 is just bunk…..if you knew the unique engineering of those buildings you could EASILY see where their fail points are and why not only they could collapse that way but they WOULD collapse that way
Wrong.
It is not bunk.
You can believe what you like. You evidently are an expert, much more so than myself, apparently.
Pro Tip: 110 story buildings, do not fall into their own footprint, in seconds, without explosives. That is a fact, and you can spew until the cows come home, nothing changes that fact. Period. Your disagreement is irrelevant.
Carry on.
as I have said these are NOT like other buildings in their engineering……by their very engineering they do tend to fall in their own footprint….the reason for the explosives in other buildings is because they have INTERNAL support…….the support for 1 & 2 was from their EXTERNAL exoskeletons……btw although my degree is in computer engineering I have training in mathematics and physics along with a MANDATORY mechanical engineering class…..you?
Um, . . . the thousands of architects and engineers making up and supporting AE911Truth.org also have your MINIMUM education, and they disagree with you.
With proof and evidence and physics and math and everything.
So . . . ?
see the comment JUST below yours
btw although “expert” advice is helpful it is also manipulative from BOTH sides….I have always found it best to do my own research and use my own critical thinking skills with some input/consultation from those with valid relevant thoughts.,…..when you have to be told by others what to think………well you know what the result of that is
Do you mean to be so condescending? I have my own in-house electrical engineer/ mechanical/structural engineer. For almost 45 years and lots of varied projects, all precise and successful, for various private companies and government.
The comment you cite does not cancel out my experiences with the scientists and engineers I’ve known and worked with, nor the thousands of AE911TRUTH, nor my own personal research.
While I myself may not have that specific education and degrees you boast of, I do have basic physics and engineering understanding, not expertise, but I know enough to know I can depend on the personal education and research and practical experience from such people as him. I’ve done my own reading and research, too; enough to be able to sort through the manipulative efforts of both sides.
Plus, the organization I cited is filled with such people, many unequaled in their fields, but nevertheless ostracized because they dissent from the official narrative. An exercise in stupidity by supposed scientists. Disgraceful.
Isn’t that what all of us have been going through the last couple of years? The battle between the “experts,” and one group with government backing threatening the others with ostracism, attacks on character, censorship and loss of license with threats of prosecution! For DARING to dissent from the official narrative.
So MUST I be a qualified expert in any of their fields to know and understand what all fuss — and injuries and deaths resulting from the pronouncements and “recommendations” of all those “experts,” too! — was about in that instance, too?
Personal research and critical thinking are vital! Too lacking in too many. But I’m not one of those. And it’s wrong of you to condescend to me or anyone else who isn’t the “expert” you are, but who knows enough to know one expert from another.
No one tells me what to think. Not even you.
But I’m not egotistical enough to discount what others more knowledgeable than I, just because I’m not one of them. I know enough to be able to sort through the various sides. And what I’ve learned is that physically what the government says/said about what happened to those structures that day is a load of . . . propaganda.
Skyscrapers built the same way the WTC buildings were have fallen since then. Videoed. Didn’t resemble what happened to WTC towers in any way. Stark.
Lots of eye-witness accounts differing from the official narrative. Nothing to gain, every shred of reputation to lose to say what they saw and experienced. Voices silenced by the official narrative. Shameful.
Videos of WTC7 falling BEFORE it was supposed to, especially on British TV.
Earliest reports were of several explosions, not one big noise.
Just so much! Discounted or ignored by those insisting on the official narrative. Shameful.
Please spare me your own special brand of manipulation. If no one tells the full truth, all those poor people have died in vain, their families have grieved in vain, the losses are in vain, no matter how many anniversaries to honor them are remembered.
Have YOU ever seriously considered the research, findings, conclusions, and qualifications of those scientists at AE911TRUTH? If not, why not?
It’s too important.
You are quite correct as to #1 and #2. (I’m a state-registered structural engineer in California since 1975.) An excellent video on collapses of #1 and #2 in language understandable by both professional SE’s and the general public is narrated by noted Illinois structural engineer W. Gene Corley.
I was at home,saw it on the news.
And thought to myself,how did everything align,for this to happen???
Seemed not possible…
The media decided “Too sensitive, can’t show this to the people” So it’s been blocked for 21 years. The Media are the devil.
“The media decided ‘Too sensitive, can’t show this to the people'”
That is not correct. I watched on live TV as the bodies were falling. The first one–no one was sure that we were seeing what we were seeing. Then, after the second, the third, and the fourth–yes, that is what we were seeing.
After a few days, that footage was not being shown–appropriately so, in my opinion. No need to keep digging the knife into the open wounds at that point.
I got up with my wife to take the kids to school and run errands, and heard about it on the radio. At first I thought that maybe a C172 had flown into the building which wouldnt have surprise me. After we dropped the kids off, I started getting more info about the reality of what happened. Things began to get surreal as we saw folks with blank looks on their faces in the stores trying to take in what happened. People also began to be more courteous and thoughtful of others.
I had to go to work later at my job as a controller, and saw some patched together security around the airport and at the entrance to the TRACON. We pretty much sat on our hands over the next few days since aviation had come to a halt. The thing that angered us was that even the life flight helos were also grounded, and couldnt get out to help people in distress. It was four days before that as rectified.
Side note, and Im gonna BEEF: Im tired of hearing all of the conspiracy theories about what happened that day. If you dont understand why airport security was still geared for the 1970s, if you dont understand what a fully fueled B767 can cause upon impact, and if you dont know about the 1000+ years of islamic history, please keep your mouth shut.
Perfect response Bob. Bravo.
Chances are less that one won’t watch that as a resistor of conspiracy thought as much as one repelled by your aggressive gracelessness.
‘Tis not a time or place to mock.
Many are modifying their views of that day, but you aren’t advancing your cause therein one bit with your bile.
Your opinion of my post is duly noted. And considered. With respect. I kind of like you. If it matters.
Being graceful is not part of educating people with scientific facts. These are already in denial, being nice about it, changes zip. The same people who have stolen our county, our elections, and are running in into the ground, are the same people who did 9/11. Unquestioningly.
The truth cares not, of feelings, Maq…..
Mockery is a sharp sword. So is ridicule.
Denying the science is not my forte.
I dont care anymore about hurt feelings Maquis, although we agree on most things, as you are a regular poster and our thought processes are pretty close.
If these people dont think 9/11 was an inside job, they need to be educated. Their feelings isnt part of it. Sorry my friend. It is what it is. Reality isnt always polite or understanding of their hurt feels sir…..
Im not sorry and wont be.
Admins can correct my wrongthink if they so desire.
I agree we mostly agree, even on this subject to a degree, but most certainly not at this moment in the approach you have chosen.
One of the things I most appreciate about CTH besides the civil discourse is the opportunity to review information beyond our ken that has essentially been pre-vetted by Treepers, the validity of which seems to track quite well with the manner of presentation.
I respect your perspective but I also respect that of the people you are attacking, and am reminded here of my childhood the common refrain when challenging the seeming unjustness of a parental intercession, “I don’t care who started it.”
Again, we are indeed dealing with a subject and an act that strikes at the very soul and future of our nation, one about which there are indeed many tender feelings, and yes, rage, understandably so.
Nevertheless, of all the communities to savage for not sharing your perspective, I don’t get it, especially when of all the places I know there are so many more intelligent folks willing to reevaluate their understanding of history from antiquity to that which is transpiring as we speak.
I would simply suggest to you that you are more likely creating stumbling blocks and creating resistance to evaluating your thoughts and pursuing your leads than encouraging anyone to consider them. I myself do have a hard time getting past those.
FACT: islam seeks to dominate, and yes, those people who stole our country invited islam in to take flight lessons and commit jihad. Saw that at one of the airports I worked at.
“I just want to learn how to take off”
~ muslim aviation student.
Your musings, dont change the needle of science.
Your opinions about Muslims, even less so.
But do carry on grasping, and typing in this way. It is blatantly obvious, who and what sort of person you are.
Shallow thinker. GW Bush, said it was Osama and his pals, so it must be!…lol….
Of course, GWB is a good guy too, right? He would never side with Globalists and Anti-Trumpers, now would he?
SMH. Wow, you are a unit, dude….
Carry on and keep carrying on…lmao! 😉
Bile? Haha!
Ok. I dont even know how to respond. Ive read much of your musings. I dont see why you would be offended by my words, but hey, we are all different.
I.Am.Done.Being.Polite.Period.
I care not, what you feel about it. And care even less, about the opinions of those who resort to telling us to shut up, or be nice. Because they think this was an attack by men in a cave, and by clowns who couldnt even fly a Cessna…..and tired of being told that buildings can fall at freefall speed, by any sort of fire, office fires and AV gas cannot achieve that temperature. Period. End of story.
These people are not experts. I can safely say, I am one of those, who knows about metals, stresses, materials and engineering. And what it takes to drop a 100 story building into a neat little pile, as far as buildings that tall go….
Impossible to do, without explosives. That is physics and science.
Did you watch the 9/11 Truth vids from actual, experts? And why would anyone not call out people who think this was done by men in a cave?
Sorry if my sarcasm offends you. This is who I am. not going to change, sorry not sorry.
If the admins here dont like my tone, they can correct me. I doubt they will, but hey, Ill put it out there. I dont come with a filter. So deal with it Maq.
I come here because opposing opinions are allowed. Being polite is not always a priority, although I do try.
Im not a perfect man, and no one is.
We can leave it here, with all the resect you are due sir.
Most people will survive the impact of a large plane crash. Its the fire from the J100 that kills them. Let me introduce you to an airport firefighter who had to listen to the cries of people and children burn to death because the fire was so hot that they couldnt get close enough to rescue them. Those aircraft were full of jet fuel because of the cross country flight. Take your conspiracy theories and…….
Hahahaha!
Yeah, you posted about what I expected.
Nothing of substance, 0 scientific fact, and heavy on the I saw, I know someone, who said blah blah, and they know what they are talking about huh?..OK then…lol. , and not much else….
Lightweight response. No facts. No substance. Nothing. Just words and your opinion.
You have 0 clue about the science, but you just know…..right? LOL!~Because a firefighter watched people burn, 110 story buildings fall in seconds from fire, because you say so.
You are out of your league on this one, and you just proved it. You have no scientific knowledge of these situations, so insult some more.
We are done, clown. Carry on. I wont entertain that empty space in your head. Enjoy it….
Ill bet you are lying about that.
Funny you just mention that now though.
A lying liar, lying. Imagine that.
You know squat about physics and metals. That is why you havent posted any numbers. Or have a response to the actual science of exploding buildings…
It is obvious.
Carry on….. 🙂
I was on my way to work listening to AM morning talk radio out of NY. The reports of a plane hitting one of the towers did not say it was a passenger jet. There were hopes that it was just a small private plane. But then as the smoke increased and the second plane hit on live TV, the guys on the radio ( Curtis & Kuby) were able to confirm what was happening. I was at a stop sign and there were utility workers there in a ditch doing some repairs. I leaned out the window and told them what was going on, They looked at me like I had two heads.
I was a state law enforcement guy at the time. I was on my way to motor vehicles to do some research for a case that morning, which I was in the midst of when the plane hit the Pentagon as heard on the radio a DMV worker had playing on his desk. At that point I went from believing it was a terror attack to understanding we are at war. I left and went to my office. I remember all our desk phones began ringing in unison being called from a number with the area code of Alexandria, VA … where the Pentagon was. No one was on the line. To this day I don’t know what that was all about… perhaps some sort of national emergency system programmed to contact all law enforcement agencies?
The next eight hours or so myself, along with others I worked with, were spent standing post outside the entrance to the State Justice Complex, eyeballing every person and car that went by. The sky was still crystal blue, but not a plane could be seen. I didn’t see any TV footage of what happened until I got home that evening. I was sitting on the couch next to my 11 yr. old son and he became frightened when I gasped as I saw footage of the plane hitting the second tower for the first time.
I’ll add more later about the days afterwards working the missing persons hotline and working with the FBI trying to get a handle on what was going on.
I did my annual blog post today……..
https://susanlovesbooks.wordpress.com/2022/09/11/never-forget-3/
On the bottom of the 1st page of Daily Presidential page , I relate a personal sad memory which I won’t repeat here . I worked in Midtown NY then and was in the City that day as usual – so much unknown chaos and confusion that day . Here are 2 unpleasant occurrences that people really don’t know about and shows how many sickos are out there 1) my daughter had just started as a Student teacher in NY suburban elementary school in nearby Westchester County , within an hour or two of the Attack the school received an anonymous threat call that the water supply “had been poisoned” – naturally they closed off the water fountains and brought out some bottled water and when the little kids asked why the teachers , including my Daughter , had to hold it together for the sake of the kids and tell them water system broken , didn’t want scare little kids . My Daughter cried her eyes out when she got home 2) in the City right after the first plane and for next couple of days , bomb threats were constantly being called in and they had to keep closing Grand Central Station , finally Mayor Guiliani announced not going to respond to all these fake calls and , what do you know, they just Stopped after that . Anyway …
Tears. Thanks Sundance.
The wife and I were getting our two oldest kids ready for middle school and our youngest for elementary school. We live very close to K-8 and so all 3 kids walk to school. They walked with the neighbor kids from across the street who come over and walk out our back gate. Well, the neighbor kids burst-in the front door and said … “did you see it!?” “See what, we asked?” “The buildings! The airplane!” They said. We switched on the TV to see the smoldering tower. It was shocking … and … I immediately thought “deliberate” … not “accidental” despite all the news people still uncertain.
And as I am watching the LIVE coverage, I watch the second airliner approach and crash through Tower II … shocking!! Now, there is no doubt this is a deliberate and heinous act. I felt as though I had been punched in the stomach … as though our entire nation had been gut-punched. Then, as we learn more … and as more airliners crash … my hurt changes to anger. And to revenge and retribution. This act cannot stand. It cannot be dismissed.
And then, I listened and read leftist numbskulls saying this was all America’s fault, and how we “didn’t understand Islam” … and how our “chickens had come home to roost” … and I got even angrier. Well, it’s another Anniversary of the attack … and I still learned everything I need to know about Islam on 9-11. And at Charlie Hebdo, and a litany of murderous terrorism that still continues today. Religion of Peace!? Spare me.
I had gotten a late start to work that morning.
I jumped in the car and was greeted by an unfamiliar voice giving a traffic report… but for unfamiliar roads… and bridges… and… tunnels?
It was a feed from WABC in New York. Apparently a plane (of some kind… it wasn’t specified) had hit one of the World Trade Center Towers.
It sounded for all the world like someone in a little plane had grazed one of the antennas on top or something.
Boy were we all wrong.
My most vivid recollection of that afternoon was just how eerily quiet things were. You don’t normally think about air traffic making much noise unless you are close to an airport. But you sure notice it when it isn’t there.
…after evacuation orders came down, walked across Constitution Ave. from the Labor Dept. to the lush green grass of the Capitol grounds. Introduced myself to a Capitol security officer…showed him my retired USMC id card. Said “tell me what to do”.
For the next three hours, this then 49-year-old retired jarhead, stood a post keeping folks from entering the Capitol grounds. Heard something about another plane inbound. Who knew that heroes aboard Flight 93 probably saved my life.
I had to do something– that’s all I could do. I was angry; damn was I angry. Still am! No, I will never forget.
Gunner, don’t minimize yourself…doing what you could is awesome…not “all I could do”.
Like you, MARINE, I’m still mad. Actually a lot madder. Thanks. REDHORSE!
Heading into the office, my Dad (RIP) was living with me by then, we stopped to pick up coffee and there it was on the TV. All the people standing in line that morning were transfixed on the monitor.
I used to keep WSB 750 running and the Neal Boortz show was on so my Dad knew what had happened to that point. By the time we got to my office and turned on the TV the second plane hit. We had about 30 employees at the time and sent them home. I shut down and left as well, because we were hearing all kinds of possibilities, it was time to get God and family close.
My wife was in Atlanta working with a client around 30 miles from home, we talked, she excused herself and headed home. My daughter was still in school I went and picked her and went home. Watched the TV waiting for the next shoe to drop.
It was definitely an inflection point for the USA and the West in retrospect I see the who, what, and why very differently than I did that day.
It was crazy.
I was asleep at the time of the attacks. I had worked very late the night before. That morning my phone kept ringing and ringing. I ignored it at first but finally picked up. It was my mother. She told me we had been attacked and to turn on the TV.
I stayed in front of the TV for the rest of the day. I remember hearing reports that on an average day, something like 50,000 people go to the World Trade Center and I thought, my God, how many people died today? When I went to work that night, I saw long lines of cars for people getting gas and suddenly there were American flags everywhere. Like me, everyone I spoke with seemed to feel a combination of shock, anguish, and rage.
My mother worked as a travel agent at the time. She had several customers who were stranded. She did everything she could to find rental cars or a bus to get home. She told me once that she thought some airports had pretty lax security.
I suppose my strongest 9/11 memory didn’t actually happen that day. It was a few weeks later. I saw video footage of the first responders in the lobby of one of the towers after the attack but before the collapse. I cried when I saw the firefighters, police, ect. heading to the stairs. I already knew many wouldn’t come back. Then I heard the sound that I’ll never forget. It was a loud but somehow dull crash. The first responders in the lobby stopped, shuddered a second, and then resumed what they were doing. After the second or third crash I understood: the jumpers were hitting the ground.
I’m afraid of heights. Have been for as long as I can remember. I wondered what it would take to get me to jump.
I also remember the mother of a young woman who died in the crash in Pennsylvania talking about her last conversation with her daughter. The plane had already been hijacked and her daughter was scared and calling to say goodbye. Her mother said, “I could love her but I couldn’t keep her safe.” Absolutely heartbreaking.
RIP to all that we lost that day. I’ll never forget! ❤️✝️🙏
I came to work in the floral shop and my co workers said a plane hit the World Trade Center. I was sure they were joking. Then they said a second plane hit the other tower. I still thought they were playing with my gullibility. Then I heard it on the radio. So I went home to get my small tv.
The boss made us keep working like this was an ordinary day. But it felt like everything should stop. We were obviously under attack.
And we’re still not sure who our enemies are or that we are at war 20 years later.
I work for a major aerospace company.
The company made us work through the Rodney King riots in the 90’s, earthquakes and 9/11/2001, as if nothing was happening. They push masks and mandatory vaccinations, even when not required by “health” authorities.
They don’t give an “f” about employees. It is all about the $.
I was listening to Don Wade and Roma on WLS talk radio out of Chicago. I was cleaning up the kitchen after breakfast. The first plane strike was described by news media as a small plane having hit one of the towers. MSM was still puzzling about how a sight seeing plane or news plane could have flown into a tower. Did the plane have mechanical failure? Did the pilot have a heart attack? Everyone was still treating it as an accident involving a small plane when the 2nd plane struck. Don Wade immediately said, “We’re under attack!” I thought, “What???” and ran to turn on my TV. I called my husband at work to tell him what was going on. (He was born and raised in NYC/Long Island and still had relatives there). He didn’t have access to a TV so I described what I was watching. It didn’t take long (maybe 15 minutes) before one of the towers collapsed. I told my husband, “I’m not sure what I just saw but I think one of the buildings just collapsed!” I called my son’s school about picking him up early. That was the day my son decided to join the Army. He joined the the Army straight after high school. Got sent to Iraq straight out of basic training. Got blown up by an IED 6 months later and spent a year at Walter Reed undergoing surgeries which left him with permanent injuries. Thanks, GWB! {{That last comment was sarcasm.}}
I was stranded near Midway on i-55…I had Don Wade and Roma on, too. And I can relate to NY–(Long Island too).
I am so very sorry for your son’s injuries. Other than “Thank you for his service”…My heart is deeply pained for him and your family.
I am grateful this time of mourning for QE2 and these events in UK help put tragedies like 911 in perspective. I hope 911 continues each year to have less and less pain involved.
There is absolutely no comparison between a 96-year-old woman dying, and thousands of Americans murdered. I don’t care if she was a queen. She died in her own bed, in a castle. She didn’t hurl herself out of a window to escape smoke and flames. Her body didn’t splatter on a sidewalk.
“Less and less pain involved” as each year passes? SD often cautions us to not look away. Clearly, you have.
Shame on the person who upvoted you.
I had just arrived at my job in a small office in a small rural town in west central Minnesota. The phone rang, and it was my daughter-in-law calling from out of state. She was stressed and anxious and asked the question: “What is this? What’s going to happen?”
Without knowing what would happen, of course, I outlined what December 7, 1941 had been like for the United States and said that it sounds like a similar situation…and we will move forward “without knowing what’s going to happen”.
Very weird in retrospect: We had a state wide staff meeting scheduled for that day in St. Paul, MN, 200 miles down I-94 for us. It was not cancelled.
So there we were in that meeting with staffers who had driven in from all over Minnesota, as events unfolded. We knew fairly early on that fighters were flying cover over Minneapolis-St. Paul–no other planes in the air, of course.
It was a very strange day. Nothing normal or natural about any conversation even as that meeting continued according to plan, as well as could be managed. If events had unfolded two hours earlier, it would have all been cancelled, but that’s not what happened.
So for many hours that day, we were on I-94 traveling first east, then west, desperately listening to live radio broadcasts and trying to comprehend.
Quesrion: What was the name of the Bill similar to Bush’s Patriot act that Clinton tried to pass die to the OKC Federal Bldg.?
What a coincidence.
I was getting ready for work, had the TV on in the background. It was 6am West Coast time ..Then I left for work and as I. drove on the freeway people in other cars were looking over at other drivers with a look of fear and shock. When I got to work management had already set up a TV so everyone could watch what was happening.
Before the day was out, DC word was that someone named bin Laden was responsible.
Since no intelligence apparatus works anywhere near that fast, and such data must have been in hand months prior, it stood to reason that Bush (and later learned Clinton) knew all about the capability and intent and persons behind it long before the event.
So, if waging a 20 year war was worth it after the fact, why would not dealing with the source of the problem in advance have been equally worth it as a preventive measure against two decades and countless lives lost? The before and after do not equate.
In the years since 9/11, we all remember the news reporting about “increased chatter” intel agencies were supposedly monitoring around various events.
I often wonder what kind of “increased chatter” they were picking up after Massoud was assassinated.
the “war” was only a little over a month….the “peace” was 20 years long……the war was won with Afghan assets before heavy American service assets ever got in country….we supplied SpecOps and air support…….SpecOps were acting as both advisors and forward air observers for the strike packages
If we had a functioning border integrity system, would an offshore, permanent campaign be required if Americans just ignored the “danger”?
yes 19 of the 20 were in the country on overstayed visas so CBP would not have caught them
I read a Time or Newsweek article about the danger that Bin Laden represented 2 to 4 years before 9/11/2001. The threat was well known well in advance.
I was at the office when the first plane hit. Everyone stopped in disbelief and started watching. My firm had an office in the towers and lost associates from the attack, so I will never forget the heinous attack.
I arrive at LaGuardia around 8:30 and was on the shuttle to my rental car pickup. As I looked out the window I saw the 1st WTC on fire and lots of gray smoke. Like everyone else I thought that a small plane hit the building. I retrieved my car and headed down the Long Island Expressway. Then the 2nd plane hit. I watch as hundreds of emergency vehicles and private vehicles with the red bubble affixed to their roofs headed towards Manhattan with sirens blaring. Then came the news of The Pentagon and Shanksville. I thought we were at war. I tried to call my husband but there no service. I watched from our offices in Farmingdale along with colleagues that had friends and family in the buildings as the buildings fell. The sounds of crying, waling and tears everywhere. Airports, bridges and tunnels were closed for days. Finally was able to carpool with a few people and drove back to Virginia. Home Sweet Home.
HOW WELL I REMEMBER THAT INFAMOUS DAY OF TRAGEDY FOR OUR NATION, THE SUFFERING FAMILIES OF THOSE 3000+ WHO PERISHED, AND THE TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE FUTURE WARS THAT TOOK PLACE AS THEIR FINAL RESULT! MAY GOD BLESS THIS ONCE GREAT NATION AND SAVE US FROM WHAT WE ARE CONFRONTED WITH RIGHT NOW. LOSING OUR FREEDOM FOREVER!
Getting ready to go to work, I had the morning news on and saw the smoke and second plane hit. Then came the collapse. The national news also showed President Bush being informed. I think he was at a school in Florida. It seemed to me that he realized in a way he hadn’t before, what the purpose of his presidency was. Unfortunately not all the decisions made were the best. When I reflect on all that has changed since, I am constantly reminded that there is a Lord of history, and he is not pleased with his world.
IIRC, Bush was at a grade school in Sarasota. I was living near Port Charlotte at the time. Neighbors’ son was having breakfast in Windows On The World. Every year they went to DC for the ceremony. Both are gone now.
yep then flew to holding for a bit over OK TX landing somewhere in OK and returning to DC in the evening
My partner & I were in a manhole at 28th & 1st AVE. Someone came out of CPS yelling a plane just hit the twin towers.
We were joking about having all that sky & STILL some idiot finds a way to hit a building. Than the 2nd plane hit.
We closed up the work & waited in place. Police & ambulances screaming up & down the avenues. Everyone looking shell shocked.
Thing is, after acouple of hours, the med teams from the hospitals there started rolling the gurneys out to the curbsides, waiting for the wounded that never came. There should have been ambulances backed up to Wall St waiting to drop off the injured, or so we thought. That quiet was a horror.
Next few days our toolcart was completely covered with missing persons posts.
Wow.
This tragedy was never investigated as a crime—which it surely was, but was immediately declared an act of war! To cover for the crime. This guy has figured it out. And if we are EVER going to repeal the Patriot Act—maybe we should start here.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/wVkCxsQWaDo/
A travel agent colleague and I were on a small ship enjoying a 5-day ‘Autumn Leaves’ fam up the east coast–NYC to Nova Scotia and return. On our first morning, I was surprised to see few pax in the dining room–and the North African wait staff had been replaced by Caucasian admin. people. I noticed that the adjacent TV room was jam-packed with weeping and moaning people.
On the screen I could see that the Twin Towers were on fire: at first, I believed it must be an old movie–but why the crying? I quietly asked what was happening. A teary-eyed New Yorker (I recognized the accent) said the Towers had been attacked by terrorists in airplanes. Weakness and nausea enveloped my body and I slowly left the room–others had better claim to the space
I was taking.
Looking over the side of the ship, I noticed that we were being escorted by tiny Coast Guard vessels.
Our first port of call was Portland, ME. I shuddered at the thought that terrorist Mohammed Atta had travelled through Portland on his way to New York to catch his plane.
About 75% of the pax were Jewish New Yorkers who spent most of the cruise glued to the television. They were desperate to learn about relatives and friends who worked for stock brokerage firms in the Towers or lived in the neighborhood. However, we could neither send nor receive calls or messages.
The Captain gave few updates on the situation in New York City, but eventually we learned that our cruise was being extended as all ports were closed and no docking location was yet identified.
The Moroccan-Libyan-Egyptian dining room crew never reappeared.
Late one evening we were advised to gather our belongings and assemble on the deck. We were to be offloaded shortly in the ‘banana’ dock section of the Port of Philadelphia. How scary! Remote, unlit and dark, no comfort stations, no dock personnel, no telephones, very cold. We sat on our suitcases, whispering to each other about the situation in the City. Within a couple of hours, several motor coaches appeared and transported us to Philly train station, or regional airports.
My colleague and I admired the beautiful architecture of the ornate Victorian train station, while huddling with our belongings against the predations of the pestering rummies. Can’t remember the train ride home or how I notified my husband when to pick me up.
He had his OWN Twin Towers story to share. We lived in Westmoreland County, PA. Our house was on the flight plan of Pittsburgh-DC. He was enjoying his day off enjoying the beautiful fall weather while working in the yard. Suddenly, a roaring jet flew very low, just over his head–never had happened before.
At dinner time, he turned on the TV and learned the tragedy of our brave ‘Let’s roll’ patriots. He said he nearly fainted. We could never bring ourselves to visit the site, although it was just
20 minutes away.
God Bless America, and God Bless faithful Patriot Sundance, who explains the complicated political shenanigans and BS, keeps us informed about President Trump’s actions and comments, as well as Stephen Miller and others, and continually raises our hopes about neutering the WOKE criminals, building the Wall, accepting legal immigrants on the basis of merit, rebuilding our manufacturing base, reestablishing the US as energy independent and the preeminent leader of the free world, etc. Lazarus’s poem no longer applies. Let’s emblazon on the Statue of Liberty “America First!”
MAGA, President Trump! 2022 and 2024!
Wife and I had a tradition of getting state inspections done for our car on our wedding anniversary before celebrating later in the day. I worked in Arlington in an office building across the Potomac from the Jefferson memorial. I had taken the day off and we were in line listening to the radio.
When it was announced a plane had crashed into one of the towers it sounded like a small prop plane. When the news caught up and a second plane hit the other tower we both knew then it was on purpose and who.
5 years earlier we had lived in Saudi and had experienced OBL releasing videos to CNN of them driving through our ‘secure’ compound threatening violence if the King didn’t kick the Americans out. Between that and other rhetoric of him promising to bring his violence home to America we knew what was going on. We tried to speak out but, of course, people were not really aware of what was going on over there and so was not ready to hear it.
I was changing a refer compressor when I heard sobbing in the next room. I went in and the TV was on, she was house sitting for her father so I could do the job. She worked in the tower. A helluva day