Purchasing advertising in the national market. The new marketing and branding group behind Florida Governor Ron DeSantis purchase ad time on Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity broadcasts. Marketing nationally, and purchasing expensive full minute ad buys targeting the Fox News audience, is confirmation DeSantis has unofficially entered the 2024 campaign race.
All doubts about DeSantis ’24 should be put to rest. As CTH has noted since August 8th [SEE HERE], the professional political managing of Ron DeSantis for a presidential run has become increasingly clear.
The Florida governor went silent following the raid on Mar-a-Lago, sending one tweet from his private account, then remaining in a bunker for the next five days. No doubt he agreed to stay silent at the guidance of the club managers behind his new political construct [that group almost certainly likely knew in advance of the FBI raid]. He exited the bunker with a new press secretary and national brand image launch. Here’s the NATIONAL ad:
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Once you see the strings on the marionettes you can never unsee them. The GOPe club uses the same play book. If you pulled a focus group of never-trumpers, then watched them discuss their snarky view of the MAGA voters they hate, then packaged that conversation into a targeted ad, this ‘cringeworthy’ outcome is exactly what you get.
The GOPe club are targeting MAGA voters by providing a manufactured and managed alternative to Donald Trump. That’s why you feel a little cringy when you watch the ad. The inauthentic nature transmits within the implied message.
The people behind Texas congressman Dan Crenshaw, likely the same branding group, did the same thing portraying Crenshaw as an action hero.
Ron DeSantis pre-staging in August ’22 is Ted Cruz pre-staging in August ’14.
Everything about Cruz ’16 is identical to DeSantis ’24, including the social media network, influencers and online media groups doing the promotion.
The Managing of DeSantis HERE
The Branding of DeSantis HERE
Club branding is subtle on the image front, but very clear on the substantive messaging side. Social issues selected to maximize camp coalition, and influence base.
Consistently present political messaging where the republican voter base can say “yes.” Keep the “yes” messaging at the forefront (social emphasis). Focus on values. Schools, kids, safety, woke pushback, media bias etc, keep the audiences nodding yes. Ultimately, it’s a sales technique. Identify with the target to influence their decisions.
Issues around multinational & corporate economics, hard lines, foreign policy, all these things must be avoided – except in general terms. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is not to be challenged, not really. Keep the message social and build the emotional connection. It is harder to break an emotional bond than a logical or cognitive bond.
These are the political techniques of Lee Atwater that still make up the bulk of the GOPe club playbook. The greatest skill of the professionally republican is to present the illusion of choice in such a way as the voters do not see it.
Keep in mind, back in Washington DC both clubs are collaborating on the Trump removal program because both clubs’ benefit.
If we watch closely, we will see a MAGA-lite, professionally controlled republican go from five-days as a pupa, to chrysalis, to national club butterfly.
We are watching it in real time.
I’m actually a little surprised that DeSantis went along with this ad. My spidey-sense tells me he knew it was cringy, but the outcome helps highlight what happens when the club starts making the decisions. The club has a habit of generating products into an audience they don’t understand.
Im 1000% foR TRUMP, still have sign up in window
But I think Trump has a plan
rookie ronnie could be lead
Trump could be named FBI
Chief to slaughter deep state swamp w Flynn Grenell etc henchmen
Get revenge deep n dirty
Let ronnie be new MAGA King
8 yr slaughter of deep state
10/4
So if you vote for DeSantis you get him AND his son in office???
Bringing in the child is worse than THE WORST car dealership ads that feature family members. 🙄
Misinformation: He was in his bunker for five days, no he wasn’t but you do not care you ahve made up your mind and now lie about him, by any means necessary. Sad.
Hacking down on this man, while the leftists are beating down on PDJT, while the Dim’s push through helicopter money again plus BS titled bills that do the opposite of “fighting inflation”….produce this:
“With the help of Democrats bailing out his sinking approval ratings, President Joe Biden has started to recover just in time to begin a national 2022 election trip.
Rasmussen Reports, the sole pollster still conducting daily presidential approval ratings, said today that Biden’s average has moved up to 47% approval, the best the president has seen since September of last year. “
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/biden-bottoms-out-pops-back-to-47-approval
Maybe DeSantis should stay in his lane til after the election.
You know he did serve as a JAG Officer in the Navy and with Seal Team 2 in Iraq as their Intelligence Officer. I know people who served with him and they have spoken highly of him when he was in the Navy. He was speaker of the House in Florida before elected Governor. He didn’t need Trump’s help then and he doesn’t need it now when he will soon be overwhelmingly reelected, which he well deserves. The ad was tongue-in-cheek which everyone who isn’t pathologically uptight should have realized.
Are you aware of what JAG is?
uninformed people still think DeSantis was swimming
in the ocean
JAG- Desk commando LAWYERS who send out “rules of engagement” that get combat men and women killed.-
Ambition for higher political office sure can ruin very strong people that used to have integrity. John McCain once was an honorable and selfless man until politics and hatred climbed into his soul.
Considering the origin of his nickname “Songbird” and the background surrounding his reckless pilot skills in the Navy, I’m not sure there was ever anything honorable or selfless about John McCain.
Being reckless does not mean he didnt have integrity. He did endure more in captivity than he had to and I guess we could have a huge debate about McCain and his integrity or lack there of, but my point is that Military service should not be used as a standard for if a person will sell you out once they are in a position of power, politically. If you dont like my McCain example how about Colin Powell?
My point is you cant count on military service as a all encompassing guide to what a person might do when they get power. You have to watch and gauge that person on what they are currently doing and Ron sure seems like he’s watching for a door to leave his integrity behind in order to forward his personal ambitions. I really hope I’m wrong about that and I’ll be the first to admit I’m wrong if I am. It’s just the way I feel and see it right now.
That is a assumption on your part, and he is dead, who cares,
“He did endure more in captivity than he had to”
He will forever be “Thumbs Down” McCain.
McStain.
“NO NAME”
Integrity is for some, a thing to adhere to until opportunity arrives, and to take the opportunity, overcomes the desire to be seen as a person of integrity.
So, it could be that. McCain was one of those who “Desired to be seen as a person of Integrity”…..that is a different classification than “A Person of Integrity”
I am not saying that McCain was one or the other,,,,politically I was not impressed,,he was NOT a Leader.
Powell and McCain ? Wow ,Sundance can’t post what I am thinking .
Exactly correct.
USS Forestal?
If you really get down in the weeds about McCain….no, he was the same. My hangar mate was an A-4 pilot on the same boat with McCain. He couldn’t stand him, says McCain could barely get the jet back down on the boat, and only got through flight training with daddy and granddaddy’s (both admirals) pressure on the instructors to give him a pass. A lot of the McCain lore is mythology.
I despised John McCain, but at the 2008 convention even I was touched by his bio before he came onstage to formally accept the GOP nomination. “Damn, how can I NOT admire this guy?”
And then McCain began speaking, and within 30 seconds reminded me why I despise him. The nadir of the speech: When he informed the Republican National Convention that just nominated him that he doesn’t work for the Republican Party he works for AMERICA! Coming on the heels of several thunderous applause lines, that merited a polite golf clap. Tone deaf and stupid, that was McCain.
He dumped the wife who stood loyally by while he was a POW and found a richer, prettier woman to take her place and allow him to indulge his desire for political prominence. I lived at the Pearl Harbor Navy Base from 1970-71. Admiral McCain was CINCPAC during that time. He and Roberta (and her identical twin sister!) lived at Quarters A right across the street from the pier where my husband’s ship was docked before he went on a 6-mo WESTPAC deployment. Everyone felt sorry for the McCains, knowing that John was a longtime POW. However after his release when his political career took off, he did virtually nothing to help identify and locate the remaining POWs. McStain, indeed.
I have to take your word for it and respect it. I was not there so I will defer to all of you that know better than I. Still I have to make the point that military service by Ron should not be a determining factor because political ambitions seem to pervert a lot of good intentions.
Who cares about McCain at this point..DeSantix is starting to look like a remake of so many others..He should be supporting Trump so that we can get this country back to what it was when Trump was in there. People are stupid and will fall for anything..DeSantis is ok as a governor..A president..NO..!!! Not at this point..He needs a heck of a lot more than what he is showing me..
Has it ever occurred to you that maybe DeSantis is establishing himself as his own man, not controlled by Trump…or anybody?
I believe De Santis did received an earful from President Trump at the earliest,,,,I remember the change in DeSantis,,,,Trump 2024-2028 and DeSantis 2028-2032….that is what I am hoping for,,,,Rubio is the one who needs the help not DeSantis
the point is that he sold his soul and integrity to the rinos
for personal gain
John McCain was always a spoiled, entitled brat. A spoiled entitled brat with courage, to be sure … but he was never honorable or selfless.
fair enough
He had a chance to get rid of Obamacare, no Republicans voted for it, yet he didn’t! That’s not a brave man!
Honorable???…Keating 5 McCain???…he should have died in prison for all the ole people’s lives he destroyed!!!..
Had forgotten about that…thanks.
McCain was never honorable or selfless.
No, John McCain was always a dirtbag Admirals son. Lots of them in the USN.
Circumstances don’t dictate what a person becomes; they merely reveal what the person already was.
Nobody is arguing-insinuating-denying that Ron is a good governor. That’s not the point. He rose through the ranks as a MAGA/America first candidate. It’s clear he’s been initiated into the establishment “club” so agendas, ideas, and loyalties will now change. It happens to the best of the politicians. Money money money is too alluring to most. If you choose to ignore the signs then that’s your choice. The rest of us are fed up with the BS establishment rinos running this country. If you attend the club meetings, start taking notes at the meetings, and do the bidding of the club then you’re in the club! Ron, my friend, is in the club now. You are not. Keep that mind.
Exactly 💯
Everyone complaining about DeSantis being compromised by The Big Club. OK then, other than President Trump who else is there? I can’t think of anyone.
Doesn’t mean DeSantis is a”quality” candidate!
There may not be anyone else right now. The key is to recognize the decepticons before they’re given so much power. It may take a few fair election cycles to find and elect, not select, those candidates. We have to stop blindly voting for R’s just because they have R’s behind their name. We have to stop believing all R’s are on our side, and we will take whoever the establishment throws our way. This isn’t going to be a quick fix. It’s a battle. You have to understand your enemy and anticipate their next moves if you’re going to win. It HAS TO BE Trump 2024, and then the real hard work starts trying to find his honest true MAGA replacement!
exactly, there is only Trump.
Stay the course!
Psy-op working real good.
Hold the line!
who else is there?
It’s too early to worry about the 2024 presidential election. Aside from Trump, other candidates are unlikely to announce until late Spring next year.
It never has been “too early”…those black hats are doing everything to STOP President Trump from running even though we all KNOW that he won the 2020 election….so never wait,,,,,
And that is exactly the psy-op being run on Trump supporters. Trump or bust…then Trump gets taken out. Now what?
we are probably screwed
Exactly … there is no reason to fawn over anyone including trump. Pay attention to what they are doing and not what they say and oftentimes what they aren’t saying… its just smart to be suspect of everyone these days.
I think Trump proved himself when he was in the highest office in the land.He took us from Obama..mess to actually having a dime to spend after the paycheck..Don’t be stupid and fall for this push for DeSantis..We will be back to. ..full blown establishment..ones like McConnell..The people will lose..Don’t lose sight of the ..goal ..to destroy the controlling swamp in DC..It won’t happen with DeSantis..
“It’s clear he’s been initiated into the establishment “club”
Clear? DeSantis is establishment? It’s clear he’s been initiated into the establishment “club”.
None of those things are true.
you either refuse to get it or
are a contrarian just because
“He was speaker of the House in Florida before elected Governor.” – Absolutely untrue.
DeSantis was a member of the US House of Representatives.
“He didn’t need Trump’s help then and he doesn’t need it now.” – not true
DeSantis was 20 points behind the Jeb Bush endorsed candidate in the 2018 GOP primary for governor of Florida.
As soon as Trump endorsed him he skyrocketed to the lead.
DeSantis would never be Governor of Florida without Trump’s endorsement. No one even knew who he was.
FACTS. ARE. STUBBORN. THINGS.
It’s time to use your critical thinking skills instead of shooting the messenger just because you don’t like what you hear..
It takes 2 years to run for POTUS and you don’t do it while you are supposed to be governing Florida.
DeSantis can run for POTUS in 2028 after he serves a second term as governor of Florida.
Then he will have 2 years from 2026 – 2028 to run for POTUS.
Everyone is well aware that he can accomplish more for Florida in his second term because he won’t be concerned with running for re-election.
Amazing how people fall in love so easily with the brand new shiny thing without enough proof of their allegiance.
That’s not love, it’s infatuation.
Trump has earned our loyalty 1000 times over.
TRUMP 2024..NO ONE ELSE CAN DO THE JOB AT THIS TIME IN HISTORY..!!! STOP THE NONSENSE..
Brand new shiny thing (DeSantis). You took the words right out of my head because this is exactly what I was thinking this morning before I sat down at the computer. I was still fuming from some remarks I saw yesterday about Trump supporters having hero worship where he was concerned. I consider the guy was either uninformed about what President Trump actually accomplished or was another one of those trying to sway us from supporting him.
Will you -people PLEEZE get his resume straight – he was NOT in Florida house, where did you get that ?- not Speaker not anything – Yale / Harvard Law School / JAG , a legal advisor ,( he was NOT an intelligence officer , or a pilot etc etc ) got out in 2010 —-runs for CONGRESS right from the get go in 2012 election , US house of Representative – and wins – re-elected 2014 and 2016 , then runs for Governor in 2018 and beats Dem. Gilliam ( you know his story ) by 30,000 votes out of 8.2 million AND if you don’t think President Trump gave Top Gov a tailwind to win that election , I have a bridge ….BTW he was going to try for Rubio senate. seat in 2016 if Rubio yea yea , so always ready to trade up like any ambitious politician – why not President …? AND of course he will be re-elected and then will start his Presidential nomination effort in earnest right after that —hello absentee governor
Thank you for this. This was my point exactly. I’ve always felt Ron was an opportunist for political ambitions no matter how he chose to do it. From his first Gov political ad to this one it was clear that Ron was all about Ron and I’m grateful for that in a way because when he decided to climb on the Trump train, it was popular and has been a boon for our state, but now it seems he wants to join the club crowd again and separate himself from the Trump train that won him that Gov office in the first place
I can say this for sure without even an ounce of doubt. As long as we can keep Ron out of the big chair, he will continue to do mostly good things in the state of Florida while he bites his lip in order to do it. If we reward him the big chair too soon, I can assure you George at least, Jeb maybe but a good chance you will get a rebellious Romney as he seeks to find his own identity in order to make his way and distance himself from the very MAGA and Trump policies that got him elected in the first place.
If I’m wrong, I’m wrong and I’m sorry, but this is the way I feel. Ron for Gov, but Never Ron for Pres is my motto
“Ron for Gov, but Never Ron for Pres is my motto”
Congratulations! You just stated what the goal of all the propaganda is:
He was getting his ass kicked until Trump jumped in to help him, and still didn’t win by anything approaching a landslide. And now he’s showing his gratitude by stabbing Trump in the back.
I thought DeSantis, like Trump , was different. It’s glaringly obvious now what DeSantis is up to.
From the Palm Beach Post dated 6-25-18:
U.S. Rep. Ron DeSantis has launched the TV phase of his Republican campaign for Florida governor with a 30-second spot that touts his biography and conservative credentials and, in a mild surprise, waits a full 20 seconds before mentioning his endorsement by “the big man himself” — President Donald Trump.
The DeSantis camp will be airing the spot statewide as part of a $12 million buy over the next nine weeks before the Aug. 28 primary.
Trump tweeted his praise for DeSantis in December, before DeSantis formally entered the race for governor.
Last week, the president followed up with another tweet lauding DeSantis and saying the congressman “has my full Endorsement!”
IMO DeSantis does not become Governor without the support of PDJT.
PDJT campaigned for him and the Governor wrapped himself around the Florida support of PDJT.
DeSantis won by only 32,363 votes a 49.6% to 49.2% margin over Andrew Gillum.
Florida and the country dodged a bullet.
IMO Governor DeSantis is eternally grateful to PDJT and will not run against him.
Governor DeSantis for Governor in 2022!
PDJT for President in 2024!
I pray that’s true!
…and the ad was poorly executed if in fact it was meant to be “tongue-in-cheek”.
🤔That brief pitch sounds close to a “stolen honor 🎖” type of AI “bot” generated GOPe propaganda.
👉 No more abusive GOPe propaganda, poison data or hopium is acknowledged among the dwellers on the branches of the Conservative Treehouse
All such insertions AND assersertion are now recognized as GOPe and/ Uniparty 👈
See, you are already making excuses. Maybe you should check your party affiliation as it reeks of “democrat”
He may have been on the up and while he was serving in the military, but he is bought and paid for currently! They encouraged and allowed him to do the MAGA rulings in his state and they played the part of protesting from the sidelines. They have been seeing him up to contest Trump for some time. If he truly cared about us and this country, he wouldn’t be getting money for commercials. Trump funded his own campaign. If he was truly MAGA, they would have fought him with everything that is in them. If the RINO’s approve, I don’t!
The enemy of my enemy is my friend?
Wasn’t there a puff piece on DeSantis in the Atlantic recently? That’s as good a tell as any.
one of the “tells”
national ad campaign when running for governor of a state
Some years ago Paul Volker spoke to the Economics Club of Florida. He spoke as the Chairman of the Trilateral Commission (yes, that Trilateral Commission). During the Q&A portion of the program he was asked about the Commission’s position on Social Security reform (a hot topic of the day). His answer was telling – that the Trilateral Commission did not concern itself with domestic political issues – only with “free” trade and international commerce. See why Trump and the deplorables are a threat? Judges, guns, abortion, schools, “woke,” etc are NOT important to the Big Club – only international business profits – and thus the Camber moving our factories and jobs to China while our GOP pols talk “conservatism” and the DEM pols talk “progressivism.” Also note that Trump has been speaking out against the Big Club agenda as outlined by Volker for decades, and therefor he was marked as a threat the minute he came down the escalator.
Until DeSantis speaks forcefully on the trade/re-industrialization issue and takes some concrete action in that area, remain suspicious.
— Marshall (social status: not in the Big Club)
DeSantis is a perfectly fine governor. his great flaw is he has no Wealth and is therefore a captive of the DC Swamp donors if he wants to run for POTUS.
The Roosevelts, JFK, the Bushes, Trump all had or have FU money which allows for a certain amount of independence from the donor class.
Reagan was unique because of his overwhelming popularity with the base and a loyal base of conservative donors.
DeSantis will have money from the Patriots and will not have to cow down to the elite evils.
Who has insinuated that he needs Trumps help..but he would never..never ever do anything about the cesspool in DC..He would turn out to be the same ole same ole..He is fairtly new to those around the country..and I absolutely would not vote for him for president.They would use him and throw him to the wolves..He seemed nervous the night he was making his prewritten speech.He is a good governor and he needs to stay in Florida.
Thank you for making good sense… folks on this thread have gone nuts! There is no “DeSantis vs Trump” except in the foggy minds of the ‘$hit$tirrers’…. DeSantis will complete his second term as the best Governor Florida has ever had… when he moves up,I will support him!
When was Ron Speaker of the House in FL? I thought he was in the US House before becoming Governor. He did try for Senator first, I thought.
I just have a large problem with him “partnering” with Rubio….although Rubio can use all the help he can get,,,perhaps that is the reasoning,,,,,
missing the point
Reposting onto this link; earlier I had posted it on the Presidential Daily Thread and another Treeper recommended posting it here as well.
This 8-page report was linked in an Epoch Times article titled, “Florida LTO Report” – created by Floridians For Election Transparency (FFET), Pre-Election Observation Report, dated August 15, 2022. Apparently FFET is a committee under a group called Florida for America First, backed by Gen. Michael Flynn, his brother Joe Flynn, and Patrick Byrne (former Overstock CEO).
Within the Epoch Times article, it states that this report highlights items that should be addressed for Florida to have good, clean, fair (my words) elections.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22140094-florida-lto-report
His almost total radio silence on the raid on Mar-a-Lago, which happened in his state!, and his inaction to secure election integrity means a big no thank you from me for a POTUS attempt.
I’ve cheered his governance of Florida but not ensuring election integrity is ridiculous.
And not vociferously condemning the FBI raid is unforgivable.
That link is not valid at this time??
Desantis has all the time in the world to run for President, why now. I am really disappointed in him.
Absolutely agree with you Andy!
The snakes are using multiple pathways to defeat PDJT.
Snakes…true that!
It would appear so.
Because they plan on destroying Trump permanently.
I’m going to take a different path on the development. If Trump is taken out, MAGA will need a champion.
At this point, I’d rather DeSantis than most any other eGOP candidate. There is also the possibility that Trump may decide to let his successor run too.
This also could have been DeSantis’s turn if the Nov 2020 election wasn’t stolen.
Your way of thinking is exactly what they want. It is not a different path.
And if Trump, by the hand of God, gets the opportunity to run as President again, DeSantis will lose.
DeSantis is not running against Trump… gee whiz folks get your head outta ya a$$
This is farther reaching than 2024.
When there is an up and coming perceived star (Haley, Pompeo, Noem, DeSantis) it is critical to see them clearly and not through the rose colored glasses the establishment is trying to use.
We need MAGA and America First to right our Republic. It won’t happen with the establishment candidates. Not now, not in 2024 or after.
I fear it is your head that is in the sand
Yeah, the path Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy want is the one that puts MAGA and Trump in their rear view mirrors as fast as they can. To hell with them. I owe them nothing. They owe us everything after they sat back and let the DNC and their media mouthpieces use covid to get rid of Trump and to punish his voters. They can’t die and go to hell fast enough for me.
There is NO replacement for President Trump. If he must run from jail, we must not fail to support him. Any one else is weak sauce and almost certainly compromised.
Governor DeSantis, I implore you to take a different road as this one will not take you near the White House while losing Florida. Stay the course.
I pledge to support President Trump no matter the circumstances.
You are entitled but, I want a full time governor and I refuse to vote for a second term for the cretin when he is lying to us about serving the people of Florida.
Also, DeSantis is not MAGA. It’s Trump’s “BIG TENT” movement. Trump created it.
Independents, blacks, and gays are not going to vote for DeSantis.
Yep, full time executive of a pivotal state in a national election in 2024 and one which by no means is a slam dunk for PDJT or any GOP. Election integrity will be huge and the historical margins are very thin.
>Independents, blacks, and gays are not going to vote for DeSantis.
That’s OK. Blacks and gays didn’t vote for Trump either.
Yes? they did.
Do you know who Brandon Straka is ?
Never heard of Walk Away ?
They ain’t walking away for DeSantis
DeSantis needs better trolls
Yes, I’m very well aware of the Walk Away movement, and I’m also very well aware of how little impact it had.
Trump got between 10% and 13% of the black vote. If you want to claim that is “blacks voting for Trump,” feel free. Go ahead and stamp “WINNING” all over that banner and feel really good about it, too.
Put another way, his gain with black voters could have been offset entirely by an increase of less than 0.1% of the white vote.
As the election was stolen and massive voter fraud occurred,
how do we know which ethnic group voted for whom?
Wrong. The Democrats know that they are hemorrhaging black, hispanic, and independent voters. Hence, the RINOs assisting them in keeping the divide between the 2 parties roughly 50/50. They both profit by having to accept bribes to have some of their inner circle “cross the aisle” and “vote their conscience” in order to advance their globalist, America last agenda.
If Trump decides on his own to not run and then endorses De Santis, then I will vote for him. If not, I’m voting for Trump even if I have to write his name in myself. As far as I’m concerned, we owe him that.
✅️”…write his (President Trump)name in myself.”
✅️I’ve been seeing 👀 this mentioned on other sites comments and it may become necessary to do exactly 💯 that.
This is exactly my position. I will write Donald John’s name in, if he’s not on the ballot. I’m beyond disgusted at this lack of respect on the part of DeSantis.
We get a glimpse of why President Trump values loyalty so much.
Loyalty to one who sacrificed so much for we citizens in the US.
That is what we are talking about!
I believe that you have missed the point of the lesson. RDS is expendable. He is merely a shiny object for milquetoast MAGA fans to glom onto should the purpose of putting RDS on the Big Stage and eliminating Trump succeeds. RDS knows exactly what they are doing. He took the cash, did the secret handshake, and sold his soul for the riches they have promised him.
So why in the heck would you vote for a man who assisted the Big Club in destroying PDJT? That is how you reward traitorous behavior? At that point you might as well vote for DeSantis/Pence…get all of the backstabbers onto one RINO ticket. Yuck.
DeSantis a governor who has implemented a few MAGA actions is now ready for the presidency or VP position. Even if I disregarded the entire Sundance article about his associations I can’t agree. There will be time (I hope) for Trump to choose who he considers the best to run with him or replace him. DeSantis has a long long way to go and only if he gets rid of the baggage he’s now acquired to even get my consideration for any higher office.
MAGA does not lie in bed with rinos
Hafta say – that’s a weird ad.
Looks like the Uniparty club wants DeSantis out of Florida – so they are trying to put him in a national race – just like they did when they wanted Palin out of Alaska.
It’s a Uniparty power and profit game and DeSantis in Florida is a hindrance to their power and profit.
Might be fun and serve them right if DeSantis named Trump his VP.
excellent comment – spot on analysis
just like Pence was President Trump’s VP?
Stay in Florida, Ron. That’s where you can do the most good.
Plus they have something they are holding over his head!
Damaged Goods Now
On what do you base something is being held over his head.
This is getting ridiculous 🙄
I suspected even before August 8, 2022; but then, knowing you, Sundance, you suspected as well.
Just want to say, you are spot on, as usual and I love your last sentence best of all!! “The club has a habit of generating products into an audience they don’t understand.”. 💯
Damn. Division is being sowed.
We need all hands on deck.
🤔”Division is being sowed”…
✅️ …by the GOPe and Uniparty Republicans and Democrat sycophants like “Lizard 🦎” Cheney and Adam “Can’t wait to be a Democrat” Kinzinger
Pro tip: No Republican EVER fought back against the Press until Trump. The idea that DeSantis is shooting down all the FAKE media bogeys … is just a Trump remake … like a Top Gun remake. It’s not a new idea. Trump invented it. Trump had the RIGHT STUFF to call out the Press as LIARS and speech-makers.
when DeSantis takes on Mitch McConnell … globalism … and outlines an anti-GOPe platform … I might give him consideration. But TBH … if he runs AGAINST Trump … he’s dead to me.
🎯 Thanks Kenji👌👍💯
✅️Well said and to the point
I suspect that if DeSantis does the things you mention in your last paragraph – or even talks about doing them – the GOPe, and the Demonrat side of the Uni-Party, will make sure that DeSantis doesn’t come anywhere near the White House.
Precisely. He’s probably already signed a sworn statement to the RNC … promising to carry whatever buckets of water they deem necessary. Necessary to pump up the bank books of their Wall Street grifters
Cringey indeed. I ain’t a-votin’ fer that.
DUMB AD! THEY MUST REALLY HAVE THEIR HOOKS IN HIM!
It calls into question his self-awareness …
President Trump is still my #1 choice by a wide margin. But after him … who else is there? DeSantis looks to be the best of the rest.
Sadly … that’s NOT an option. If DeSantis has agreed to run AGAINST Trump … then he is clearly running on a GOPe globalist open borders agenda. That doesn’t make him second best … it makes him just as unacceptable as Jeb Bush.
Aldous Huxley said about the arts of ‘ selling ‘ that they can sell you toothpaste or a political candidate in exactly the same way.
Gulf War # 1 was 4-5 years after the first gung-ho Top Gun film. Recruitment soared ( as intended ) , it takes a few years to train pilots.
That DeSantis would use this backdrop suggests that if he ever did gain power, he would start a major war.
Cringe indeed.
Some years ago Paul Volker spoke to the Economics Club of Florida. He spoke as the Chairman of the Trilateral Commission (yes, that Trilateral Commission). During the Q&A portion of the program he was asked about the Commission’s position on Social Security reform (a hot topic of the day). His answer was telling – that the Trilateral Commission did not concern itself with domestic political issues – only with “free” trade and international commerce. See why Trump and the deplorables are a threat? Judges, guns, abortion, schools, “woke,” etc are NOT important to the Big Club – only international business profits – and thus the Camber moving our factories and jobs to China while our GOP pols talk “conservatism” and the DEM pols talk “progressivism.” Also note that Trump has been speaking out against the Big Club agenda as outlined by Volker for decades, and therefor he was marked as a threat the minute he came down the escalator.
Until DeSantis speaks forcefully on the trade/re-industrialization issue and takes some concrete action in that area, remain suspicious.
— Marshall (social status: not in the Big Club)
You know, if the GOP really is trying to replace Trump with De Santis, it’s the worst thing they’ve ever done to us, IMO. There are far more important reasons why those two should be working together and why the entire GOP should be supporting the hell out of those two and many other up and coming conservatives like Mark Robinson, the Lt. Governor of NC. That man is a rock star but you will never hear McConnell or McCarthy ever mention his name. At this point, it’s beyond disgusting.
👉 I consider VP George Bush Senior as the VP to President Ronald Reagan and later as President himself to be a very similar GOPe and Uniparty machination to further entrench antiConstitutional Big Government Bureaucracy 👈
TBF … we all know PDJT is the FIRST 3rd Party POTUS in the HISTORY of America. We all know it. The RNC knows it. The DNC knows it. Which is why PDJT is attacked by BOTH the Left and the Right. BOTH the DNC and the RNC. PDJT simply isn’t one of them … either of them. PDJT is us. It’s us against them …
You know. everyone keeps avoiding the elephant in the room.
Namely, DeSantis has a young wife who is in remission from breast cancer.
People do still die of breast cancer.
I have a young cousin that had her breast cancer return after 2 years and recently passed.
What kind of a man would place his wife under that kind of pressure while she is in remission ?
He’s got young children. Can’t he give her some time to heal ?
If he can toss aside the well being of his wife and young children how can he care about me.
Sorry, but this is major for me. Is DeSantis’ blind ambition that intolerant of his wife’s health.
My family is more important to me than anyone or anything.
🤔Which may also reveal her very own “blind ambition”
✅️It appears from the new advertising strategies that it’s their decision together
Well Ron DeSantis hasn’t declared he is running for anything other than for reelection as Governor of Florida. I assume his wife is fine with that.
Governor DeSantis was by his wife’s side throughout her treatment. Based on his statements about his wife and children it appears that his family is very important to him, but let’s just make up stuff.
I’ll help out, I hear Ron DeSantis beats puppies and eats babies. I heard that or maybe my spidey senses tell me that so it must be true🙄🙄🙄
Do you think DeSantis flitting off to NM, AZ, PA, OH, and MA had anything to do with his Florida election? 🙂
No I don’t think it had to do with his reelection, it wasn’t promoted as that either. The TP USA events he spoke at were in support of various candidates in those states.
So new rules, in order to prove his MAGA purity Ron DeSantis and ONLY Ron DeSantis is not allowed to leave Florida? DeSantis and ONLY DeSantis is not allowed to speak, campaign for or fund raise for any candidate outside of Florida. Ron DeSantis and ONLY Ron DeSantis is not allowed to talk about issues that are not specific to Florida, unless said issue directly effects President Trump. If the issue impacts Trump DeSantis should always without fail rake Trump’s side and what? Crawl over glass? Set his hair on fire?
Oh wait, I forgot a rule Ron DeSantis and ONLY Ron DeSantis is not allowed to take political contributions from anyone that anybody here suspects of being part of “the club”. Also, DeSantis and ONLY DeSantis is not allowed to run ads on Fox News.
I’m sure I missed some of these rules, but I’ll figure them out. 🙄🙄🙄
Funny these rules only apply to DeSantis. Nobody questions other politicians flying around the country stumping for or fund raising for other candidates or maybe just hocking some book they wrote. But everything Ron DeSantis does is suspect even his marriage now.
Honestly, can you all not see how insane this is? You all have DeSantis Derangement Syndrome.
and you have “ostrich in the sand” syndrome
I’ve thought of that too & hate to believe he would sacrifice his young family for the gold ring! But many have & will. The time is just not YET right for Ron, sure hope he realizes that before it is too late!
Think of JFK at 43 with Jackie at what, 31?
1) Big $$$$. He has raked in massive donations.
2) He won’t be attacked because he’s a pod person now. The Dems and RINOs have no fear of him.
OMG the death trolls are out in force today with the insurance policy /just in case stuff blah blah
It still stands that it is stupid to not account for that kind of risk. Trump is one man. If the movement dies with Trump you can forget ever changing things for the better in this country. There is only one thing certain in this world and that is baring the return of the Lord Jesus Christ for his own every single person on this earth is going to die one day.
Trump is no exception and I honestly hope he is working on it and considering this fact himself. Im no troll. Trumps not perfect and if at his age he has given no thought to who mite replace him should the worst happen then thats a mistake on his part that we will all suffer the consequences of. He has done a lot. He is one man. He wont live forever.
Is the RNC-GOPe grooming a Romney,Jr.?
😉Except this time any MAGA impersonator will be issued a President Donald J Trump mask 😷 to APPEAR like a MAGA candidate.
ha
It feels that way
This is so sad . I’m not sure if i should pity this poor man or hold him in contempt for this . But i’m sure much more of the latter. selling his soul to the GOP for money and lust for power . so Fkk him
So why can’t they work together though? Why does the GOP scum have to pit them against each other? It’s as if they don’t even care about winning elections anymore.
I wouldnt see an issue with DJT and his successor working togther…i think that would be a good thing. It
Well, De Santis is not a successor to ANYTHING yet and clearly the GOP has no intentions of working together with Trump on any issue. You’re either a lying troll or you are living in fantasy land where the GOP actually give’s a rat’s ass about their voters.
Q: so, is this why Gavin Newsom has targeted DeSantis? …was Newsom tipped off that ’24 will be him vs. DeSantis?
Not Saying that is our destiny, just that The Club has picked its favorites – remember ’16 was supposed to be Jeb! v. Hillary. Just asking an open question.
SHE only had an 87% probability of beating Jeb … hence Jeb would have been the better candidate … ha!
Yes and President Hilary (and First Handser , Bill) would have been ever so grateful to the Bushes and the Club as they would be now entering their 2nd year after reelection ( alternate ‘history “ as they say )
I think you nailed it, Ghost.
Orchestrated.
The scripts have been written.
It appears that Newsome is putting his hat in the ring also for the dems.
It will be somewhat amusing to see Newsome try and campaign from the center.
It’s a dumb ad! No meaning or catch!
Not quite accurate. When Desantis spoke at the JD Vance rally, he was very vocal and critical about the raid at MAL.
That’s not what other people said. Other people said he mentioned the raid but only briefly, and he didn’t even say Trump’s name. Do you have an excerpt from the speech that proves otherwise?
DeSantis doesn’t have the resources to withstand the attacks that will come if he were to win the nomination. It will be vicious and personal, and will be every bit as deep-state generated as it was with Donald Trump. The fbi, cia, nsa, irs… you name it will attack at that time with every bit of venom that they have. Before it’s over, DeSantis will be a chinese spy, a russian stooge, or a mafia cover. Count on it.
He’s worth about 350K if you check online. What’s he gonna fight them with, when daddy warbucks doesn’t want to play anymore?
I think he’s not going to be attacked. The RINOs and Dems like him.
Much later in the day I thought about how disingenuous it is for DeSantis to wear a military-type jacket and show his kid in a cockpit. Yes DeSantis was in the military, but he was a JAG! I see other people mentioning this fact.
I’m trying to be open-minded about this guy but lately everything I see about him is manufactured PR crap. What a disappointment. I was actually hoping that he could run for President in 2028, not I’m hoping that he doesn’t win the nomination in any presidential election year. At this moment I’m actually thinking he’s worse than Jeb!.
Its similar to the candidate from New York or California having a campaign
ad dressed in a Carhart carrying a rifle – remember those ads?
I’m feeling even more strongly that DeSantis never was OK, he was just using whoever he could to ascend. First Tea Party. Then Trump/MAGA. Now his new handlers, big-$$$ donors and propaganda media.
Invasion of the body snatchers, people. I just don’t know when he was snatched, was it before his first term in Congress or more recently?
#NeverDeSantis
DeSantis is “Goose” at best.
https://truthsocial.com/@ilpresidento/posts/108873475000467788
Yesterday, three MAGA candidates for Sarasota School Board backed by Governor DeSantis were elected and flipped the board from being far Left to a MAGA School Board.
How dare the best Governor in America support and campaign for MAGA candidates.
Further proof that he is the enemy of MAGA and PDJT. s/c
Someone please report this transgression to the Hate DeSantis Club.
they were actually backed by a group whose intention was to flip
the school boards – he may or may not have backed them or hung
on to their coattails – who knows – but, it is something a
“politician” would do.
Was this a “feeler” ad? Is he throwing the Gov election for a chance at the WH.
Would be stupid if he thinking about doing that.
I’m thinking this is just a “feeler” ad… doubt that it’s going to get much traction..
Still very telling that his people are setting him up for a fall should he decide to run . Who the hell would support a guy who just threw away all the work he’d done in his State to go for the so called Brass Ring.
He needs to get new PR company- I like de Santis but this ad is embarrassing….
Now that we know the “faux MAGA” game, we have to perform
due diligence on all candidates. This is difficult because we mostly only
have information on candidates in our own state. Much of that
information is what the corporate media lets us have. And,
nationally it is even worse.
The “tell” might be when the national and/or state media
supports a candidate and/or when a candidate holds many
press conferences telling us how great he/she is; what
wonderful things they have done for their constituents.
Bottom line – we need to be suspicious of all of them.