Reading all the professional political chatter from both wings of the uniparty bird about the DOJ position on the Trump raid in Mar-a-Lago, something sticks out to me that readers here will relate to, but others, likely not so much. Consider this written to all the reasonable and intellectually honest people.
You see, there is an actual mechanism that is being ignored by members within the professional DC silos and the DC ‘outrage’ stenographers. I was reminded of it when reading the professional obfuscation in the Wall Street Journal as they outlined how Merrick Garland “weighed the raid on Mar-a-Lago for several weeks” prior to August 8.
Technically there is a mechanism for executive branch conflict resolution that involves actual transparency, not the political talking points of the illusion of transparency. However, when the Fourth Branch of Government was created, the conflict resolution measure that provides oversight and escape from accusations of unequal application of law was dispatched. It was dispatched because, well, the unequal application of the law was the intent.
What I am talking about is the legislative branch oversight mechanism known as the Gang-of-Eight. Whenever the executive branch runs into a conflict that involves sensitivity within an issue they define as “national security,” the executive branch is supposed to use the tool of the legislative branch to extricate themselves from the conflict.
Quite simply the DOJ/FBI could have briefed the Go8 on the nature of the sensitive ‘national security’ issue, and this bipartisan briefing to both democrats and republicans removes Main Justice from the appearance of political impropriety. If, later on, the nature of their investigation is ever questioned, Main Justice (the representatives of the executive branch) have the shield of telling the American public that congress was notified.
That is essentially the intent of the Gang of Eight construct. Leaders and key officials within both parties are informed of ongoing investigative activity that involves the national security of the United States. That’s the mechanism for the DOJ and FBI to avoid the appearance of political targeting.
On March 20, 2017, we saw for the first time how the newly weaponized DOJ and FBI had intentionally and purposefully begun to stop that notification process as part of their intentional effort to politically weaponize the justice dept. {link}
In that March 2017 hearing, former FBI Director James Comey was asked why the FBI was investigating President Trump for the past eleven months (April ’16 origination), revolving around a Trump-Russia collusion investigation, and not informing congress about the potential national security compromise.
James Comey justified the targeting operation and lack of notification by saying, “because of the sensitivity of the matter(?)” while looking uncomfortable & surprised with the question from representative Elise Stephanik.
The outlook of unilateral authority without oversight lies at the heart of the Trump-Russia collusion and targeting problem. The lack of transparency, and failure to follow the required briefing schedule to congress, was as subtle as a brick through a window, showcasing the political intents of the FBI and DOJ under the Obama administration.
The FBI and DOJ (executive branch) cannot operate unilateral political targeting operations and simultaneously permit oversight (legislative branch). That was the issue spotlighted in the answer from James Comey.
Unfortunately, what Comey outlined was the central issue DC politicians, including republicans, needed to avoid admitting… And so, they pretended the admission by James Comey didn’t exist, brushed it away under the cloud of media assisted outrage on other matters, and just moved on.
In the current dynamic of the DOJ/FBI -vs- Donald Trump Mar-a-Lago raid, we see an almost identical scenario. Not surprisingly we also see identical action from the DOJ/FBI in not briefing the Gang of Eight about the post-election Trump investigation. It becomes clear the DOJ National Security Division is intent to avoid any transparency if they were held accountable for following the checks-and-balances.
Obviously, the DC stenographers (MSM) will avoid pointing out this issue; and obviously the right wing of the DC UniParty (republican leadership) will avoid mentioning how this conflict resolution mechanism exists. However, their willful blindness doesn’t negate the fact the mechanism does exist.
If AG Merrick Garland and FBI Director Chris Wray wanted to avoid what Wray has previously called, “even the impression of impropriety,” the DOJ could simply have briefed congress on the issues and challenges related to President Trump and their perceived problem with classified documents.
The reality of Main Justice not seeking to avoid their conflict, stands as a stark reminder how they consider the mechanism of oversight as a risk to their intent.
The absence of congressional notification is evidencing how the targeting by Main Justice is political.
(Wall Street Journal) […] Mr. Garland now faces a more momentous decision that will further sharpen an already unprecedented and politically fraught situation: whether to pursue charges against Mr. Trump or any of his allies over their handling of the records at issue and their interactions with Justice Department officials seeking to retrieve them.
A decision to bring charges in the matter against Mr. Trump or any of his allies would thrust the Justice Department deeper into a political environment in which the former president’s supporters and Republican lawmakers are already accusing Mr. Garland and the department of overreach.
[…] Republicans on the House Judiciary Committee sent letters Monday to Mr. Garland and FBI Director Christopher Wray seeking documents and communications related to the search. While the department is unlikely to agree to that request while the investigation is ongoing, such scrutiny would likely only intensify if Republicans gain control of Congress in November.
Justice Department officials have defended the Mar-a-Lago search as a necessary step approved by Mr. Garland himself. People familiar with the Justice Department’s approach have said a primary goal of the search was to ensure the security of highly sensitive national-security documents after the Trump team didn’t relinquish them and amid concerns that the security of the material at Mar-a-Lago had been put at risk. (more)
Nunes should have stayed put. suspicious cat whiskers raised again.
He would make for the ultimate turncoat if discovered. Worse then DeSantis in respect to treachery against Trump.
Thank goodness nothing like that could ever be possible…….
Good Lord! Is there no one above reproach? Next the speculation will be that Trump himself is behind this crap and somehow got the Government to raid his place or some such nonsense. President Trump personally selected Nunes to run his startup social media organization for him. Seems like the boss still has faith in Nunes not to mention the greater career opportunity for the young California Central Valley Rancher/Congressman.
VP maybe?
He couldn’t. The CA dem bureaucracy re drew his district. He couldn’t win in the new district. Dems Gerrymandered him out pretty much.
Reminds me of Rohrabacher. Local news stated he would win his election about a week out. Leading in polls, almost double digits.
Then came…”but wait…there’s more ballots to count”.
Sep. 15, 2017…on Assange…
“I don’t know who it is, all I know is I’m up against an array of very powerful forces, including the intelligence services and major newspapers that are basically allied with the liberal Left who have every reason to undermine communication on this issue…
“Look, there are very powerful forces at work…We’ve got the NSA, the FBI and the CIA, all of whom confirmed a major lie that was being used for political purposes and a lie that was repeated and repeated in order to undercut our new president.
“You’ve got people who are obviously just trying to cover their ass for mistakes they have made… They will probably do their best to keep Trump from knowing about this and knowing about his options to expose this.” – Dana Rohrabacher
Sep. 29 2017…
“I think the president’s answer indicates that there is a wall around him that is being created by people who do not want to expose this fraud that there was collusion between our intelligence community and the leaders of the Democratic Party” – Dana Rohrabacher
That was the Democrats giving their new cheating system a spin. Once they proved how to overcome massive day of the vote leads, such as those in Republican Strongholds, all they had to do was finf some excuse to change election laws in other states.
GOP cries foul after California thumping – POLITICO
Didn’t Nunes get different (sanitized) briefings from the other commies on the Gang of Eight?
Indeed he did.
Yes, I recall that being confirmed in 2017 or 18.
Suspicious Cat?
No, I think your supposition lies in the province of Dead Cat.
Nunes reads Sundance… all you have to do to confirm that is listen to DN in his Fox et al appearances. Devin, along with Kash, Navarro, Miller, and a few others, are Rock Solid in this quest to restore our Republic.
Worse then…? Will you name something Nunes has done to betray Trump? Or the Republican Party? I’m unaware how Nunes is connected to the committees above or the post.
His district was changed via redistricting and it would have been hard for him to win re-election . That’s why he left. There is no other nefarious reason
If I read you correctly, you accuse Nunes of being a traitor to DJT. I have neither seen nor heard of any such thing
Pray tell, where are the specifics to back up your claims?
The mindset is now self-devouring. Soon Sundance will be suspected as a gaslighter.
Brendan Buck on June 28, 2022: “I don’t know Cassidy Hutchinson, and I can’t speak to how things worked at the White House, but when Meadows was on the Hill he always insisted that she be in *every* meeting he had, no matter how small. It was odd then, and doesnt seem to be working out for him now.”
At the moment, the most fishy Republican politician from California is definitely Mark Meadows
Mark Meadows is from North Carolina
Funny how nobody in the Gang of 8 seems to mind one bit that they weren’t consulted first… obviously giving tacit approval.
“Silence in the face of evil is evil.
Not to speak is to speak.
Not to act is to act.”
~~Dietrich Bonhoeffer~~
This quote becomes more and more profound with each passing year…
The clarity, genius, and courage of men like Bonhoeffer and Solzhenitsyn should be an example to all of us! These were men who KNEW the truth and refused to stop speaking it!!
It is, Mom.
I intentionally left out part of it to make a point about this.
He also said “God will not hold us guiltless.” I very much doubt this is a quote any in Washington know.
The silence emanating from the whole of Congress, but in particular the Republican wing of the authoritarian junta that rules out of DC is deafening. I can hear it all the way down here in Texas.
And I can hear it very clearly all the way up here in the once beautiful state of Washington…
As you and I have talked about before, it is wrenching to see the destruction of the Republic that our forefathers fought so hard to give us, but, in a strange way it has solidified my faith in the One Rock upon which we can stand firm!
I find I am spending a lot of my discretionary budget these days on hardcover copies of the books that I know really matter and I pray they will be a source of comfort and light for those who are still here after I am gone…
“The LORD reigns; let the peoples tremble! He sits enthroned upon the cherubim; let the earth quake!” Psalm 99:1
Amen!
Beautiful Mom…we have discussed our sorrow in recognizing that the sacrifices of our past generations seem to be given short shrift. Shame, shame…we know the cost.
And if I could, let me add this to your wonderfully appropriate Psalm…
“When my heart is overwhelmed; Lead me to the rock that is higher than I.”
~~Psalm 61:2 (KJV)~~
Blessings, my friend.
The point is to abandon ill-deserved faith in humanist systems as they always lead to hell. The Lord alone can save us.
So just today, I think it was today, Jordan came out and talked all about this and how he was mad that the DOJ didn’t do what they were supposed to do by informing them of the raid.
Jordan also talks about the number of whistleblowers in the FBI who are coming forward, because they are sick of how corrupt it’s become…
https://www.westernjournal.com/along-public-dozen-fbi-whistleblowers-figured-jim-jordan/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=AE&utm_campaign=can&utm_content=2022-08-15&seyid=16530
Fake news attacks real whistleblowers and protects fake ones.
Watch for that.
I know he’s putting in so much work, God bless him. But since his party not only refused to support our President and deliberately undermined everything he tried to accomplish in the most spiteful and cowardly way, he really is just spitting in the wind.
I find that phrase unpleasant, but it surely is accurate.
Never give up. Never give up the fight. Stay till you win or they take you out. They are afraid of Jordan. Don’t bury him before he’s dead. Read George Patton.
I think his own party is afraid of him. And you are right. He is a fighter.
Jordan is my number one choice to replace McCarthy as Speaker.
I think he is plenty of others’ choice as well…
How absolutely glorious would that be, steph!
The conspiracy of silence. They announce themselves, they always have.
It’s not totalitarianism until you feel it, until then, it’s freedom, democracy, patriotism, diversity, socialism, exceptionalism, climate justice, whatever relieves the psychology discomfort of pretending not to know things.
Neo-American national security fanatics oppose George Washington’s “disinterested patriotism”. There’s no gravy train in that.
There would be no Obama without RINOs. There would be no Joebama without RINOs. The conspiracy of silence is deafening. JMO.
They stopped Bonhoeffer by executing him, I believe.
Yet we read him still.
They hung him as the NAZI regime was crumbling.
The Scholl siblings(white rose society) were beheaded by guillotine years before.
Remembering the abomination of the murders of all three.
It’s hard to fight totalitarianism, from the political left or right.
Also hard when a corrupt state is backed by the Church.
The Vatican murdered Protestants for their religious beliefs at St. Bartholomew’s massacre. The Clergy in the Mass. Bay Colony executed Quakers for their religious beliefs.
State terror is always justified and legal by those carrying it out.
“It is to secure our rights that we resort to government at all.”
–Thomas Jefferson
Re: Vatican…Don’t forget the massacres of the Albigenses, Waldesians. and the Cathers. 30,000 slain on St. Bartholomew Day. Not to mention the millions tortured to death during 600 years of the Inquisition, with tortures that could only have come from the bowels of Hell.
Oh, and the Jasenovac in Ustashe/Nazi Crotia, sanctioned by Pius XI, staffed by Franciscans, so Piys could have his “pure Catholic nation”.
Exactly. Refusal to make a decision is, in itself, a decision.
Silence has many children.
He was offered to study non-violent resistance by Ghandi.
Years before they murdered him, they tried to “cancel” him.
Lost his job after he was denounced as a pacifist by national security fanatics.
…or maybe they were….
Every single person in the Gang of 8 is entirely compromised by blackmail. That’s why they are members of the Gang of 8. Anyone who has any sort of oversight over anything the Deep State does has to be compromised first and foremost. This is quite apparent now. It’s why they literally lost their minds when they couldn’t find a single thing on DJT. It was completely unheard of. By the time any normal politician ascends to the heights where he could assume the office of president, in the past ample time was available for them to blackmail that man. Period.
I noted to Sundance here a week ago, asking for his opinion on Marko Rubio’s Rather Hot reactions and pronouncements on Fox News on Monday and Tuesday night.
I think Rubio is a Turtlehead in Waiting and a Rino not to be trusted in most things, and believe there may be a large piece of A$$ Covering in his responses, but there also may be quite a bit of Rage at once again being hung out to dry, right before his election, before his voters, to where it looks like once again the Gangof8 is letting the FBI/DOJ have its way with Trump, while Little Marco sits on his hands.
This may have gotten Rubio’s attention, and work for our benefit, but then I am probably wishfully thinking.
Rubio was in on the FBI spying on Trump and creating the Russia hoax. I think McCain and the Senate Intelligence Committee initiated the entire thing, and Rubio was on that committee.
Lead was Mark Warner, Rubio happily carrying water behind on the trail. He will never forget the drubbing he got from Trump (little Marco). But he doesn’t want to look like he got “Played” again by the Gang08 right before an election.
There is one thread that connects all the RINOs.
Doesn’t matter what costume they were, it’s in the language.
They betray themselves, they can’t help it, nothing they can do.
He was appointed by Mitch only a couple of years ago, after much of it was already done.
Little Marco is up for reelect and must appear to care about the little people. I think you are right about blackmail (the Jimmy Fallon show where he talked about Bubble Parties comes to mind.)
https://www.nbc.com/the-tonight-show/video/marco-rubio-addresses-his-boot-heel-controversy/2972689
Maybe they were consulted and they agreed
How sure are we the Go8 didn’t know?
Just like the first time
Excellent observation!
Exactly! I fault them
Don’t you wish Jim Jordan of Ohio was the ranking member of the Intelligence Committee rather than Mike Turner of Ohio? Jim, have a conversation with your Ohio brother and have him raise hell about this.
Yes, which makes one question the conclusion of Sundance’s otherwise just excellent essay. But as I see it there are two possibilities; either that DOJ / FBI “consider[ed] the mechanism of oversight as a risk to their intent”, or that they wanted to protect whole or part (guess who) of the Go8 by holding them at arms length from the conflict with PDJT.
The Gang of Eight doesn’t seem bothered by being deliberately left out of the loop. Where is their outrage? Nowhere…and that tells us all we need to know.
That’s cause they are not bothered. It’s the Trump/Jones rule on full display.
Thanks again SD for doing all the heavy lifting. Without you some of us would still be scratching our heads.
Oh so correct.
…or have them buried in the sand …
Or more likely
Cranio-Rectal Inversion.
That they knew about it?
So, for those of you who are represented by senators or congressmen sitting on the Go8 it is time to make the phonelines burn. Ask were they informed by Wray or Garland? If not, why have they not asked why they were not informed regarding a very serious national security issue? And finally are they going to ask that question immediately?
A number of constituents phoning/writing/mailing these questions will make them feel very uncomfortable.
Rubio unfortunately is running against Val Demmings, so Rubio it is.
{{{shudder}}}
Not the same I know. But here in Texas we have a choice between eternal frat boy and all around dimwit Beto, and RINO climate cult worshipper Abbott who has a page on the WEF website. That says it all.
So I’ll see your {{{shudder}}}…and raise you. Seems there are many races where nose holding will be required.
I hear you, I almost posted a pair of shudders!
The Illusion of Choice, heard that somewhere.
That’s an excellent one, Maquis. Because I think it’s true. You made me remember this off quoted statement from Mark Twain…
“If voting mattered, they wouldn’t let us do it.”
Yuck. Another “hold your nose” vote. Hope enough citizens go out and vote Marco.
No it won’t. Hell, they won’t answer the phone. Pressure from the citizens doesn’t exist. On the other hand lurid information about these swamp pigs decide their decision making.
Don’t hold your breath, Mikgen. For starters, we have many RINOs. Then, after all, it’s “summer vacation.” Bottom line is these Uniparty in congress are all either corrupted or otherwise compromised.
Yes. Silence Must Be Heard
Thanks for answering the question I had yesterday Sundance. It occurred to me when I saw a headline in which Rubio was meekly demanding answers.
How could he NOT know of an investigation involving national security issues?
How could McCarthy not know?
One would think both would be louder in their demands for answers given the DOJ/FBI are treating them as doormats.
Trillions are at stake (the T is not a typo) and not a single republican has the guts to raise this issue! Including our
friendly governor in Florida.
My tenth grade US History teacher one day said to the class You will see Tyranny in your lifetime.
My eleventh-grade math teacher told the class when asked by a student how come we stop adding at billions. I never forgot his reply. He said a responsible government would never reach that kind of spending in our lifetime. He was wrong in the spending but correct that a responsible government would never reach that level of spending.
‘given the DOJ/FBI are treating them as doormats.’ – Republicanvet91
This is why I use the derisive term ‘Congressclown.’
Despite having the privilege of voting on legislation, the average Congressclown has no more insight into the workings of the Deep State than we do, and frequently less.
They write sternly-worded letters to administration officials, which often are simply ignored.
Employees in the Congressional mail room probably get better intelligence than lowly Congressclowns, who are merely mushrooms in the dark, receiving periodic nutrient baths of manure-based fertilizer.
Most of those clowns don’t even know what’s going on in their own offices. That’s what they have “staff” for.
I remember back in the controversial B. Clinton days the observation was made that it is not the elected legislators who make the laws and get them passed, but their staff. They only take staff advice. Other than that, they really know nothing. They really are just figureheads, and our lives are run completely by unelected “minions.”
“. . . periodic nutrient baths . . .” indeed!
‘They only take staff advice. ‘ – GrayCat
The average CongressClown spends 4-6 hours a day on his personal cell phone, raising campaign funds.
There’s no time to read bills; little time to do more than briefly sample some MSM disinfo.
I’ve spent time in those Congressional offices. What you say is correct.
Exactly so. Thank you.
It surely is correct. I’d bet that for a two-year term they spend a year and a half fundraising. Leaves little time for anything else.
The staff don’t write the bills.
Lobbyists write the bills.
Staff type and photocopy them as needed.
Okay; and so, who do staff work for, really? 😉
And also, who do those “representatives” and “senators” work for?
Ain’t you and me.
And, so, what’s the point of all this “government,” again, really?
Still haven’t heard anything from Mitch! Arguably the second most powerful member of the Gang of 8 as Minority Leader of the Senate. But then we know don’t we! Lots of bad blood between McConnel and Trump.
He uses Tim Scott to put his message out. At first, Tim Scott said just let it play out, trust the FBI, that sort of nonsense. Then when people started complaining and pointing out that McConnell deliberately avoided questions on the topic, Scott used stronger rhetoric but it was very fake. Clearly, though, the blowback wasn’t what McConnell anticipated.
Tim Scott is a known RINO. no?
Yes.
What will the DOJ do when Trump’s team starts releasing video from the Mar A Lago security cameras of the FBI ransacking the property? Stay tuned!
Agreed. I actually like the idea that Reinhart is delaying ruling on the release of the affidavit.
It gives President Trump a few more days to slowly drip napalm on them. His passports being the latest.
Knowing immediately that the passports were missing suggests Trump has a very detailed list of what was stored in that room.
The Stone clemency order is another.
maybe he has a detailed list……maybe he doesn’t….I lean towards him knowing EXACTLY what was in the storage room and his offices but the passports missing and his noticing that fact is not indicative of any diligence elsewhere as a passport is a pretty major item
“….not indicative of any diligence elsewhere as a passport is a pretty major item.”
6 years of records containing every and the smallest detail of how the DOJ, FBI, NSA, ODNI, NSD, etc tried to frame you is a lot more major than a passport.
I am always amazed how President Trump reacts when he appears to be in a dire situation, according to the Fake News and the Uniparty. Ever since the raid, President Trump walks around with a big smile on his face and of course sending out his daily TROLLING tweets. It’s like he knows he has them all by the short hairs.
It is because Trump knows he has them trapped. Biggest “sting” operation in the history of the World. All the “Bad Guys” are being exposed and this is an excellent website to see who they all are.
“We caught them all”
It is because of President Trump’s reactions that I find it easier each day to dismiss the doom and gloomer’s; somewhere along the line Mr. Trump, private citizen, found a most valuable Key to turning the downside into a most positive upside.
Pretty sure he is still working that Key. Also fun to think he gave a nickname to that Key and calls it “Winners Aren’t Losers”!
On his Patreon blog I read daily—-he was silent for a whole day, and I got worried.
Then he made an interesting post. He said he as absent for a short time because he was very angry and felt lost in the dark–-but then he turned the whole thing over to GOD. He said he began to feel much better, and stronger than ever. “Goodness and love win in the end.”
He is back to blogging again, frequently.
I pray hard daily for this man’s safety.
Me too.
Don’t expect that affidavit before the midterms.
If they do not do it soon, like STAT, you can be sure the Stasi will either subpoena it or put a gag order on all the Trumps.
Can’t wait.
It’s a good article, but none of this matters. This will be settled in the streets, and the time is near I’m afraid….
It looks like we are getting very close to that point.
That’s what the evil ones want. Don’t go there.
Vote instead? Become an FBI whistleblower perhaps? Yeah ok. The point is don’t fight back as they are trying to initiate.
Voting worked well in Arizona last week. It’ll probably work well in Wyoming by day’s end.
If they CRUSH LIZZIE tonight and Murkowski, that will be a good sign that the Deplorables are still with our President Trump big time.
Complicated issue. If extreme violence moves forward you can bet there might be gun confiscations, and then the hammer will really come down. Better to push back very very hard by nonviolent protest until there is no other option, and then organize in a very comprehensive manner before you proceed with any physical violence. You only get one chance if it’s a massive violent protest before they confiscate the guns. And we will lose if it is door-to-door confiscation.
Good advice. It is exactly what they want.
They’re counting on people not resorting to violence until it’s too late. They don’t have the numbers to win, and have to convince people there are peaceful solutions. Meanwhile, they consolidate power making violence inevitable.
They want to kill you. You can’t negotiate or pacify people like that. If you want historical examples, look at every communist dictatorship ever.
Peaceful protest may work against essentially peaceful people, but this ain’t them.
When you come out with your game plan, let everyone know.
My game plan is when they come for me or someone in my tribe, I respond with extreme violence.
What’s yours?
Not gonna happen
Half the country doesn’t find any problem with the raid (source is multiple polls)
99% of the other half are to afraid to say or do anything (source is observation)
It’s not half.
It’s more than half who are angry about the raids.
Christopher, Christopher Wray is that you?
Sure, if you mean standing in solidarity un-armed voicing our discontent, then yes. Anything else is FBI plant bs. And, say no, and I will point you to the case in Michigan. The embedded FBI on Jan 6th, and so on.
We need to bring this up every day. EVERY DAY until the lawlessness of those involved with the politicization of the FBI, DOJ (DOJ NSD), and all of the other corrupted players within our government is stopped. And they are brought to proper justice and held accountable for their crimes.
More importantly, despite the cheating and fraud, we need to get out and vote. Overwhelm the polls…not stay away.
EVERY DAY this illegitimate raid needs to be brought up and they need to be reminded we want answers and we want the truth.
OMG. You haven’t heard all the “this is another Jan 6th setup?” Ever since Trump’s tweet the Glenn Becks of the world are clutching their pearls!
If they indict and arrest, it’s game over if Americans actually believe their own rhetoric. I will be out there but if no one else is I’m going home.
Smart observation, we’ve been conditioned to accept that the FIB/DOJ can do what they want without any oversight. Obviously, they have and told us they will continue.
“We’ve been conditioned”?
Who’s “we”? I don’t think mine took, I probably need another session…
Paul Sperry makes a great point:
https://gettr.com/post/p1mqqk7752d
Thanks Sundance for clarifying, because I was wondering if Marco was taken outta the Gang, since he’s almost begging for answers from DOJ.
There are none so blind as those who do NOT want to see.
As usual, Sundance is right on target.
Sadly the answer is clear- our Satanic overlords on the Gang of 8 just don’t give a damn about impropriety or the appearance of impropriety.
We are way beyond that now. American the Beautiful is now America the Police State.
‘our Satanic overlords on the Gang of 8’ – Seneca the Elder
Let us stipulate that the Gang of Eight itself is extra-constitutional.
G08 is one of the enabling democratic fig leaves of the national security state founded in 1947.
The Gang of Eight keeps 527 other Congressclowns in the dark, just like ourselves.
So among other decadent results, the Uniparty caucuses blindly vote for some $80 billion of black-budget funding for the intel racket, without a clue where that money goes.
This is wrong, wrong, wrong. It violates their oath and duty. It should be denounced.
Yes. we are not voting our way out. The U.S. now will have to go the way of most of history, collapse under it’s own weight and bloated bureaucracy. It’s a long, slow death and we will not rebuild until that happens. Many victims will be sacrified at their altar but in the end it will collapse. It always does.
I hope i am there to gloat. Cause I love the look of What just happened?
….and people are starting to realize it.
Thankfully so. Many liberals champion this police State because of the current regime. They obviously don’t know history.
And the scary thing is that, not only are we a police state, as bad as any other, but a good chunk of the public, at least 40%, doesn’t care. Not that long ago, there would be universal outrage, downright shock, at this sort of thing.
Just wait a bit.
Recession is when somebody else loses their job.
Depression is when one loses one’s own.
”Not a smidgen”
ovomit
By the book, even.
Soundbite will go down in infamy, if not with the country…
If Zero can help it, it will go down with both.
“It becomes clear the DOJ National Security Division is intent to avoid any transparency that might exist if they were held accountable to following the system checks-and-balances.”
Putting it another way – a two-tiered justice system with the DOJ NSD above both tiers.
Next up:
(CNN) The federal magistrate judge [Bruce Reinhart] who approved the Mar-a-Lago search warrant will hold a hearing Thursday on requests to unseal investigators’ probable cause affidavit, which the Justice Department has opposed releasing.
Media organizations, including CNN, asked for the affidavit to be unsealed after the search last week at Trump’s Palm Beach, Florida, club and residence.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/16/politics/mar-a-lago-affidavit-request/index.html
Is anyone in doubt as to how Reinhart will rule?
Secrecy is theme of the campaign to take down Trump.
A judge who represented employees of Jeffrey Epstein (whose client logs remain unreleased) implicitly understands that ‘The first rule of Deep State is, you don’t talk about Deep State.’
No affidavit for you, little citizens. It would only confuse people. TRUST US.
They will release the affidavit and it will be so redacted that we might be able to read the date at most. Just a big black box on a sheet of paper.
Could be. If I had to bet on Thursday’s result, it would be 99% probable that Reinhart accepts DOJ’s motion to release nothing.
After all, Reinhart is Jeffrey Epstein-compromised. Epstein’s strangling in jail sent loyal foot soldier Reinhart a vivid, unmistakable message.
The affidavit will match the evidence they have planted and are manufacturing.
Probable Cause in the affidavit gets redacted by virtue of the unwritten or otherwise non-existent “ongoing investigation clause” envisioned to be in the Constitution as dreamed up by the LawFare snakes who have been slithering around Donald Trump for six years. They are why we are living in this Kafka-like nightmare.
By virtue of the “ongoing investigation clause’ of the Constitution, as conjured by the LawFare Snakes running the DOJ-NSD, they are the Fourth Branch—the deep state
Snake-pole-ing LawFare:
Mary McCord passed along the first Carter Page FISA Warrant—the FBI Clinesmith ‘Lie’—from John Carlin (back now at no. 3 in the DOJ) on to the FISA Court. The probable cause ‘lie’ about Carter Page was heavily redacted under the canards of ‘national security’ and ‘ongoing investigation.’
She was involved in the ousting of General Lynch, the changing of the whistleblower rule during the movement to impeach Donald Trump over the Ukraine phone call, and she is now defending J6 Committee Chairman Bennie Thompson in a lawsuit brought by Donald Trump over executive privilege.
Retired Magistrate here: If judicial conduct still mattered Magistrate Reinhart would recuse himself due to a conflict of interest over his postings of his total disdain for President Trump and his prior representation of Jeffrey Epstein who Donald Trump kicked out of his resort many years ago. With this high profile of a case the Federal Judge should be hearing it; not his Magistrate. Of course this case is such a “stinker” that the Federal Judge may not want to have anything to do with it.
President Trump’s attorneys could file a Motion for Magistrate Reinhart to recuse himself, and I would if I were President Trump’s attorney; but it would probably be a waste of time because Reinhart will deny any conflict of interest. I don’t think President Trump’s Motion to unseal the Affidavit will be granted, but if it is it will probably not be the Affidavit which resulted in the Search Warrant in the first place.
Remember, we are dealing with a two tiered justice system; one for them (swamp) and one for us (peons).
‘If judicial conduct still mattered Magistrate Reinhart would recuse himself due to a conflict of interest.’ – Marcia
Exactly.
His failure to do so tells us in advance what his ruling will be.
PDJT’s attorney filing a motion for Reinhart to recuse will at the least make Reinhart’s conflict of interest aware to everyone. Good idea RM.
I hope Trumps’ lawyer hammers on how the bar is set higher than ever before to not unseal the affidavit because of prior bad acts by the FBI- namely Kevin Clinesmith and falsified Steele dossier which was used illegally to persuade the FISA court into a 2 hop wire tap on a presidential candidate. They should also say it must be unsealed because of the enormous conflict of interest there is in AG Garland’s direct involvement in the case when he is representing Biden, the political opponent of Trump in the last election and possible opponent in the next one. He has to recuse himself. The whole world is watching if to whether the US is a banana republic or something slightly better. If this happened in Ecuador, the Biden Administration and our corrupt agencies would be calling them a banana republic without a doubt.
People have no idea, and it’s impossible to try and explain when they don’t know who or what the attorney general even is.
I call them: The Political Primitives.
I am appalled at the number of citizens, including my neighbors, friends, and former co-workers (I retired this past autumn) who have NO idea of how government works, what the 3 branches are, or for that matter, up until the other day, would have no idea the name of the AG of the USA (and doubtless, some still do not know his name or his job title). We have a very ignorant citizenry.
But they do grocery shop and buy gas.
Yes. This is why they all know something big is wrong and getting wronger.
But many don’t know what it is and don’t have understanding on how to find out.
Some have even convinced themselves they cannot ever understand.
I spent time this weekend with a woman who probably calls herself a “liberal” (and why, she probably couldn’t tell you). Nice person but the rigidity of her thinking was alarming. We had a general discussion about how people learn. I pointed out that I’ve learned many things over a lifetime by teaching myself.
She insisted this was impossible for most people to do, when it clearly is not.
It’s a choice to remain ignorant. In fact it’s a fair amount of work in the long run…
The miseducation of our citizenry has been entirely purposeful over many decades.
The Political
Primitives.Primates.I like that better.
Perhaps you should just call or label congress “the big gang” and leave alone those who you call 8. Makes sense to me.
Again, I ask: Where is there a real “Statesman” in Congress?
I know there are some fighter on our side (anti fascist democrats), but I have not seen the complete statesman yet.
A real Statesman. We didn’t have one since 1963 until DJT became POTUS.
Ron Johnson, Josh Hawley and John Kennedy (La) come closest in the Senate.–Maybe Mike Lee and Rand Paul, who show spurts of statesmanship at times. IMO
Re “Republicans on the House Judiciary Committee sent letters Monday to Mr. Garland and FBI Director Christopher Wray seeking documents and communications related to the search. While the department is unlikely to agree to that request while the investigation is ongoing, such scrutiny would likely only intensify if Republicans gain control of Congress in November.”
Yeah, if Republicans gain control of Congress in November, they will likely send some more letters. Those letters may even be “strongly worded!”
Yippee!
Those letters may even be “strongly worded!
And greatly ignored.
That’s the message Hannity was putting out when I accidentally overheard part of his show last night. Vote GOP so they can do investigations. Not cut funding, break the FBI into regional branches or get rid of it, impeach or prosecute anyone-investigations. Likely to go on for years no doubt. He showed a clip of Lindsey Graham grilling someone at a hearing to try to persuade people to this view (and try to rebuild Lindsey Graham’s image to people who don’t know any better). What a joke.
The thing with dishonest and bad people is that while they may have constructed a network of players, the membership changes either through actual membership or the players themselves change in some way or another.
Why didn’t the corrupt DOJ/FBI brief the Go8? I thought they did… half of them at least didn’t they?
And why aren’t they using that as a shield? Same reason…. but worse.
Consider how the left projects itself onto their enemies. My ex-wife was like that. She kept accusing me of cheating on her. I thought her jealousy was cute because there was no way I was cheating and was not even interested in the idea. Turns out later on, I learned why she was accusing me of cheating… SHE was cheating. And it wasn’t like she was simply trying to hide her cheating. She actually thought I was “the same as her” for some reason. I was just naive and happy with our home life.
And that’s the same with the left. They think the right is also evil and not to be trusted. They also think the right installs “fake RINOs” the way they install fake republicans. They are so corrupt, they can’t imagine anyone not being corrupt. And because they believe in many things which are not true, their ability to trust their own alliances fails.
They are destroying themselves thinking they are clever and powerful.
Bravo!
Is Turner the Kasich replacement for OH on America’s traitors list?
The Day BEFORE the raid, Dan Scavino tweeted out a photo of the front of the door’s gold-colored #45, where the record boxes were kept.
Then the the phrase “#45” referencing the door, was in the search warrant.
How did he know?
You have to ask, why is it Schiff is again all over the news about the latest hoax demanding answers, yet McCarthy and/or Rubio are not?
I know why McConnell is nowhere to be found, but those two should be everywhere demanding answers.
Turtle’s masters have to give him instructions on the matter before he acts
The WSJ is full of baloney. There is no credible mainstream press.
Everyone, down to the filing clerk, has gone rogue in DC. No rules; just do whatever the hell you want. No repercussions will be coming from anyone. Past time for States to slough off the Feds..such an abusive relationship.
I believe you have something there, and Texas (whose economic well being has already been directly targeted by them) is presently hard at work on it.
Corrupt to the bone. It needs to be the Chain Gang of 8 for many of these swamp vermin.
Bravo, Sundance!
You have just raised the room darkening shade a bit higher, letting the sunlight poor in.
We see you all, Uniparty!!
But the don’t give a rat’s ass that we know. That is why they continually get away with it.
That’s why they have previously gotten away with it.
Let’s change that.
Fear is a powerful tool.
The Squad of Eight will remain silent.
The Fourth Branch is in control.
The DOJ and FBI consider themselves part of the 4th and totally unaccountable branch of government. Look for the IRS to soon join the 4th branch.
Heck yah. And not just Gang of Eight, also the White House. Biden said he didn’t know about the raid.
‘Biden said he didn’t know about the raid.’ – fka Serena
Two possibilities:
(1) ‘Biden’ is lying, to the severe detriment of his own prestige.
(2) ‘Garland’ really did keep FJB out of the loop … in which case, ‘Biden’ should fire ‘Garland’ on the spot for insubordination.
A president who doesn’t know an ex-president is getting raided, is not a president but a stuffed-suit figurehead.
Isn’t he? I always thought he was.
Yes he is.
But I’m having a harder time wrapping my head around a sentence that includes both the words “Biden” and “prestige.”
Well, you know, all those word salads being tossed around, right? Really has no relation to reality. 😉
I actually heard this very matter brought up on msm a couple days ago . Alas, my feeble brain cannot remember where. So much chatter I tune most out.
Well, at least I saw Turner, I believe it was this morning on Fox, maybe last evening, casting SOME aspertions on what Garland has done.
However, I have learned never to trust any of these bastards and what they say.
Makes me wanna puke when I see confessing “Christians” like Bream, Ainsley Earhart, etc from Fox, still whoring themselves out for money when they KNOW the election was stolen…
Makes me wanna puke.
Included or Excluded, the Gang of Eight is worthless. What would they do? What could they agree on? They are dysfunctional buffoons.
‘They are dysfunctional buffoons.’ – Professor G
Beyond that, Go8 are usurpers of power, depriving 527 other Members representing you and me of vital knowledge, making it impossible to fulfill their responsibilities of due care and oversight of the budget and government operations.
The Gang of Eight essentially are conspirators against the United States. They should face trial for concealing information that should be available to all.
AMEN!!!
Whistleblower David Montgomery says Obama used “THE HAMMER” to spy on and blackmail Americans, and to steal elections–including the 2020 presidential election. He also stated that Brennan and Clapper wiretapped Donald Trump “a zillion times.” Apparently nobody notified Congress about that.
How the CIA, Obama, and Biden were illegally spying on Americans and stealing elections
https://www.worldviewweekend.com/situation-room/audio/brannon-howse-november-4-2020
Whistleblower Robert Montgomery released a lot of damning information about Mueller/Comey/Obama illegally spying on Americans.
In February 2009, the Obama administration commandeered a powerful supercomputer system known as THE HAMMER. THE HAMMER includes an exploit application known as SCORECARD that is capable of hacking into elections and stealing the vote, according to CIA contractor-turned-whistleblower Dennis Montgomery, who designed and built THE HAMMER.
THE WHISTLEBLOWER TAPES, confidential audio recordings released by U.S. DIstrict Judge G. Murray Snow’s courtroom in November 2015, revealed that SCORECARD was deployed by the Obama team against Florida election computers to steal the 2012 presidential election on behalf of President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden.
SCORECARD steals elections by tampering with the computers at the transfer points of state election computer systems and outside third party election data vaults as votes are being transferred. SCORECARD is now [November 2020] being activated to steal the vote on behalf of Joe Biden once again. Biden utilized THE HAMMER and SCORECARD while running for Vice President in 2012. Votes are again being stolen on Joe Biden’s behalf as he runs for President of the United States in 2020.
In August 2015, CIA contractor-turned-whistleblower Dennis L. Montgomery provided the FBI and the DOJ with evidence stored on 47 hard drives that implicates Robert Hunter Biden, son of former Vice President Joe Biden, in illegal activities, Montgomery states.
Among the 600 million pages of documents stored on those 47 hard drives of electronic data that Montgomery turned over to the FBI were 10,000 pages of documents regarding Hunter Biden and Joe Biden, according to Montgomery.
On February 3, 2009, Brennan and Clapper moved THE HAMMER to Fort Washington, Maryland and began using the foreign surveillance system for domestic surveillance, targeting President Obama’s political enemies for “blackmail and leverage.” Montgomery, as a CIA contractor, worked for John Brennan and James Clapper.
Montgomery became a whistleblower upon seeing first hand how the Obama administration had turned THE HAMMER against America. Montgomery originally designed and built THE HAMMER in 2003 as a foreign surveillance system to protect America after 9/11.
“THE HAMMER IS THE KEY TO THE COUP” — Admiral James A. “Ace” Lyons, On His Death Bed, Speaking To His Longtime Friend, Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney. They stole a super-surveillance government tool for foreign surveillance and they turned it against America and are using it to steal the Presidential election of 2020.
Brennan and Clapper used THE HAMMER to spy on Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts, Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, 156 Article III judges, FISA Court Presiding Judge Reggie Walton, Members of Congress, Wall Street executives, Rudy Giuliani, Lt. General Michael Flynn, Donald Trump, Trump Tower, multiple Trump businesses, and members of the Trump family. Brennan and Clapper spied on Donald Trump because the CIA feared Trump. Brennan and Clapper wiretapped Donald Trump “a zillion times.”
ICYMI – FYI – WTF – Trust No One – ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Double Standards…
Will Cain breaks down the FBI’s raid of Trump’s Mar-a-Lago | Will Cain Podcast
Just more evidence that DC Republicans are all on board with the political persecution of the 45th President of the United States.
Has anyone heard (other than the brave dozen or so House Republican patriots) DC Republicans screaming bloody murder (as the Democrats would ALL be doing) about the brazen political nature of the persecution of Donald Trump?
The Repubs are collectively John Cleese scurrying about and saying “Don’t mention the War!”.
I recall Lil’ Marco asking for a classified briefing. Not demanding a classified briefing and an explanation as to why a briefing was never offered. Just asking nonchalantly as if this sort of overlooked step happens all the time. Well Marco, it seemingly does happen all the time, gnome I’m sayin’?
I’ve dispatched with all the naysayers here at CTH. The number of wins in this climate (last 18 months) are huge.
Who really cares “if” Roberts tried to swing the court on Roe V Wade? It was a win and to get caught up in the rhetoric is beyond our pay grade. It was a huge win, make the best of it locally now that the states rightly own it.
We are on the cusp of ridding congress of 8/10 impeachers. Huge win.
Who cares if they “tried to cheat” Ms lake in Az. She won. Az now knows how to beat cheaters so show them support.
They tried to get MTG off the ballot; she won. Same with Boebert.
I expect very few of the voting population to get what SD points out here, but exposing it is a win and CTH keyboard warriors better get a clue or the winning stops.
The vax scam is now fully exposed. Employees are gettin back pay, churches are getting their money back and coaches who prayed at mid field and got fired WON in court.
To expect the progressive left to accept these wins is futile. These are OUR wins. Claim em and hold the gains.
Tell em to stick it. Take the W and move to the next field of battle.
I love your optimism. That said if those in power are still able to weaponize covid mail in ballots along with rigged voting machines, the gains we make and have made will be diminished quickly by stolen election results just like last election.
Anyone in the entire country that believes Joe Biden got more votes than Obama in a legit way, simply has a mental issue. Matter of fact, I will go as far as Obama secretly says (I know he won, but that’s a bunch of BS).
These are primary elections ousting the ones that are not really rebublicans in the first place. The general on some of these victories are yet to be seen
standing O for your comment – thank you
The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons.― Ralph Waldo Emerson
The louder they talked of ‘national security’ the faster we counted what was left of or liberties and our bank accounts.
One of my favourites.
Perhaps the gang of eight were told and know all about it. Perhaps, like last time they knew and they colluded with it.
Each GOP member of the gang of eight must be asked if they knew about it, if they were notified, as the DOJFBI are required to do every few months.
Per zero hedge comments
Apparently the documents seized during the Mar-a-lago raid were so super-top-ultra secret that only the Washington Post and New York Times could be trusted to read them.
The gang of 8 should be labeled the the gang of obfuscate. The 4 so called republicans on the gang might as well be Pelosi minions. Rubio should be the most ashamed of himself. He was portrayed as being the next Reagan only to show his true colors in the 2016 debates. Jebus Christ, Christ Christie of all non republicans called him out and ruined him on the debate stage. If a shadow liberal can publicly burn you more effectively than Trump then who the the hell in the republican party would ever vote for the guy again?
The ire against the Dems is positioned where it firmly should be–but it should be equally directed at the Republican House and Senate leadership for their tacit silence. Where is their outrage about what is going on? Why don’t we see them front and center fuming to all of America demanding accountability? It’s not acceptable that they are ok with enabling the downslide of this country.
Trump has documented proof of DOJ and FBI corruption, and that is the matter of national security. They will fight to the death rather than hang for treason. They have nothing more to lose at this point.
As always Sundance is spot on. Thanks for insightful, thoughtful, factual reporting.
I say we dismantle, & defund DC, from the cesspool up and install Sundance & Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch.
Seems to be the ONLY two entities working for the Nation & her people.
How about just dismantle and dissolve, delete and prevent from ever existing again? And never install anyone else to preside over any of the rest of us again.
No one has a right — even if “elected” — to rule/govern other human beings.
No one is qualified — even by popular support — to rule/govern other human beings.
Since neither you nor I have a right or are qualified to rule/govern each other, or our neighbors, how can we “confer” such a “right” or “qualification” to anyone else? How can anyone “confer” on anyone else a right he does not possess?
“Election” nor “popular support” can make it so.
There is only one who has a right and is in fact qualified to rule/govern all men, our Creator, and He has given us ALL we need to govern ourselves in honesty, dignity, and peace, and in obedience to Him. His laws are few and simple. And none of them include the power of some men to rule and rob their fellows, nor even to spy on them and/or “police” them. Every single one is aimed right square between the eyes of the reader, to look to himself to act justly, love mercy, and walk humbly with God.
We are in this mess — as throughout history — because we look to men as our authority, and are not content with God. 1 Samuel 8
One thing that has struck me about the Gang-Of-Eight and congress writ large, throughout this entire sorry episode.
The FBI and DOJ are engaging in clearly lawless, politically motivated conduct. They are pursuing a course of action that is based on a proposterous notion — that President Trump, i guess, has stolen nuclear secrets and was going to pass them to foreign governments (??).
I mean that is as best as I can make of where the DOJ is going with this.
And it’s all so OBVIOUSLY FALSE. And using means that are OBVIOUSLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL. For anyone to see.
They are framing an ex president for a crime that it is literally ridiculous to think he committed.
And yet, all of Congress is fine with this. They are pretty much all on board.
They could have had Merrick Garland and Joe Biden facing impeachment by now.
But they don’t.
Is the constitution a complete and total sham at this point??
The gang of eight, is as corrupt and compromised as the fbi.
And the doj.
Garland reports to Biden and Biden didn’t even know. Of course we all know why Biden wasn’t informed, because he’s got Swiss cheese for a brain and he’s not really running the country, he’s irrelevant.
Step 1. Repeal the Patriot Act. That’s what has been abused.
Step 2. Disband, not defund, but disband the entire FBI. The Secret Service can take over an explicitly limited role for federal crimes.
Step 3. Remove at least the top five tiers of personnel from the DOJ. Director, Assistant Directors, Deputy Assistant Directors, Junior Deputy Assistant Directors, Regional Directors, etc.
Dead Men Walking!
And I do as well Sundance…
I’ll be lucky if one in my gene pool survives all of this Bull 💩!
Make no mistake that those that have and still do to this day sell out Humanity WILL PAY 🙌🏼
Ps
I’m a 7th generation Creek n Cherokee Indian on my father’s side.
My Grandad on my mother’s side fought real Nazis in WWll
Fkmmmmm All
What irritates me the most is how many ostensibly conservative pundits (Bongino included) believe that once the Republicans have power, hearings will solve all of this, because “accountability” or something. Are they this naive? Or just willfully blind? On the oft chance that an actual budget is passed that allows for line item stripping of mandatory funding to the FBI and DOJ at a minimum, will we even have a slim chance of beginning to rectify this. But the Uniparty will never allow it. The continuing resolutions will continue until the Republic collapses.
In the (increasingly unlikely) event that Trump wins and is sworn in, when he does take a proverbial sledgehammer to 4th Branch management, who’s going to enforce that? Put differently, do you think the FBIs own security is going to ensure Wray doesn’t return to his desk after he’s canned? Think about it.
I’d be curious to know the current tally of MAGA candidates we have who have won their primaries. That is the one big possibility for change — if the House and Senate have enough MAGAs to challenge the Uniparty.
Well the interesting thing I heard on the warroom today was that the primaries have finished or are about to finish (most likely) a number of RINO “dynasties” – and they were well worth chasing outta town:
The Bush Crime family (earlier on)
The McCain Crime Family (big one!)
After tonight, the Cheney crime family
After tonight, the Murkowski Crime Family
Coming up: the Sununu Crime Family
I know there were at least one if not two more but I can’t remember which…
(We really need to scotch Mitt and his odious niece from the scene as well…)
I am still waiting for Schiff’s “Evidence” from 2017…..I’m only in my early 50’s but I’m looking more like Skeletor/Biden every day
LOL
Considering the identities of the Gang of Eight – hacks and careerists all – what difference, at this point, does it make, if there was no prenotification?
If no one knows what they have done, there is no accountability at the polls. Something of this magnitude might overcome inertia at the polls is the repubs in the gang of eight were proven to have greenlit raiding PDJT’s home