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“This is no small thing, to restore a republic after it has fallen into corruption. I have studied history for years and I cannot recall it ever happening. It may be that our task is impossible. Yet, if we do not try then how will we know it can’t be done? And if we do not try, it most certainly won’t be done. The Founders’ Republic, and the larger war for western civilization, will be lost.”
“But I tell you this: We will not go gently into that bloody collectivist good night. Indeed, we will make with our defiance such a sound as ALL history from that day forward will be forced to note, even if they despise us in the writing of it.”
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The description sounds mostly like socialism.
Sounds more like a description of Congress!!!
Atlas Shrugged in a nutshell.
We’re living it.
The events Ayn Rand described in Atlas Shrugged pale in comparison to the horrors happening in America and the world today. . .
Back when I was a navy wife, it was referred to “being promoted to the highest level of incompetency”.
I very much like the details to your post! It explains an awful lot.
Of course, to be fair, some may have been rich before entering politics:
List of current members of the United States Congress by wealth (only those over $10 million)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_members_of_the_United_States_Congress_by_wealth
Since they can list their wealth, they should make an entry for their wealth on entering congress.
Also, a combined wealth for their families. (All direct relatives. Parents children, grandchildren.)
ONE of These 2 MEN is a Comedian and Collects Cars –
THE OTHER a Missouri National Guard Artillery Officer in the 1st World War, a ” Hat Salesman ” ,
the “second Missouri Compromise.”, A BUSINESS MAN
and the ONE that GOT SNICKERED into CODIFYING the CIA
( WITH REGRETS )
BOTH SMART
AN ARTICLE and THEN a SONG from 1975
https://archive.org/details/LimitCIARoleToIntelligenceByHarrySTruman
POTUS 45
SIR, a Suggestion for YOUR NEXT RALLY of The TROOPS –
PLAY THIS BEFORE YOUR ENTRANCE and SPEECH
YOU, SIR, ” CALL a SPADE A SPADE ” and WALK A MILE, SPEAK With HONESTY and TRUTH…
AND
Did Vote Democrat before
You TWO Share SEVERAL LEADERSHIP QUALITIES
Disney expanding operations to 10 anti-gay countries, regions as they go ‘woke’ in the US
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/disney-expanding-operations-to-10-anti-gay-countries-as-they-go-woke-in-the-us
Disney bashes Florida’s parental rights bill but offers cruise to countries where homosexuality is illegalDisney cruise sailing to Antigua, Dominica and St. Maarten, where gay marriage is banned
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/disney-floridas-parental-rights-bill-cruise-countries-homosexuality-illegal
no souls…no brains…and you got results….
Which inept “leader” is leading this thing?
……or is the person behind the device at the center of the table calling the shots?
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Bad patrol tactics. They aren’t spread out. One RPG or 40 mic mic would wipe them all out.
OMG, they have Assault Weapons!
Yeah, and the M-60 guy is in the back, which is fubar.
Just like all of Congress. 😉
They know exactly what they are doing. Our misery is their success.
Germany is reopening their coal-fired plants. When they run out of coal, they can clear-cut their trees like Haiti. And when they run out of firewood, they can hunt down whales for the oil.
You know–For the Environment(tm).
Oh how forward thinking of them🤪
Why don’t they just bottle up magical Unicorn Farts to burn as clean energy fuel, because, ya know, addressing real-world energy solutions is just so simple?
“Gee….. it’s been 9 hours since we saw the waitress…. should we ask the hostess?” – Pres. Biden.
“Wait…I think she is coming back…. oh wait…. it was not a waitress..” Pres. Macron.
“Do you know where the restroom is? ” PM Trudeau.
Europe’s Death Rattle: Part I In the culmination of a longtime plan, a global calamity of food scarcity, due to Covid measures and ‘sanctions’, will soon cause record numbers of mainly African migrants to enter Europe seeking food
https://johnwaters.substack.com/p/europes-death-rattle-part-i
“In the culmination of a longtime plan”.
Indeed and as an added feature, humans are high on the menu.
Will Europe be glad to give their bread to grifting lazy punks from perpetually warm climes with 4 growing seasons but who are too lazy to till the earth and find theft, rape, and conquest easier? Will Europe reprise rascals Camp of the Saints?
I’ve read this excellent, destroy their premise fact made before. Now, I’ve found a meme. The problem is IN CHICAGO:
MICHIGAN, INDIANA – BOTH ASK for ID when Selling AMMO…
and
AFTER Talking to the People that run the Gun Shops ( Un-Officially ) –
THEY FIND A WAY NOT TO SELL to ILLINOIS Residents
I buy ammo on line all the time. ALL of the vendors require your CCL on file, though some are hesitant to ship to certain States (like mine) because while it is legal, there is always a gray area. Our AG is infamous for saying, “Yes, America is burning, but that is how forests grow.” The justice system is on its head. They will never stop me, nor the tens of millions of Americans who believe we can turn this ship around, one way or another….
I have never provided a CCP number while purchasing ammo online.
You must lower demand!
Lower demand = Lockdowns 😉
Lockdowns + Rolling Blackouts.
“WE NEED SACRIFICE!!! THIS IS A TIME OF WAR!!!”
Ah yes… a war is indeed raging… but it’s not the war they show on CNN…
They want self imposed lockdowns for us peasants as they fly all over the world in their private jets.
Communists are good at reducing demand. Just ask the Ukrainians from 1932. And the other 120 million +.
Next time, urge lower Tyranny usage.
Let THEM lower THEIR demands. Then maybe, just maybe, they’ll escape the gallows when the tipping point is reached.
I want to ration their supply of oxygen. Breathing expels a lot of Co2, not good for environment, according to them.
Of course, just like here in the US they will demand that the middle and lower classes reduce their energy use. But the wealthy will continue to be incredibly wasteful.
I’m not cutting back until hypocrite George Clooney does. He as at least six large homes, including a wine estate in France. According to AD, the French estate has “425 acres, with vast gardens, a lake, an olive grove, a 72-foot shaded pool, tennis courts, and a 25-acre vineyard. The total number of bedrooms and bathrooms isn’t readily available on public listings, but given that the main house measures around 10,000 square feet spread across three floors” Of course he flies private jets among all of this properties and then tells us we need to be mindful of global warming and carbon pollution.
But but but, looney-clooney will have the option of paying an affordable-to-him carbon-credit ‘tax’ which will allow him to pollute in guilt-free and socially acceptable ways in the bizarro, twisted and hypocritical world of Progressivism.
Mitigating Circumstances
The term that allows the wealthy to push through most legislation and exemptions at the local level.
In this case, S*IT probably does run uphill, as well as downhill.
Dropped AD after many decades of enjoyment. Their current product is a shadow what it was in their former glory days, so it wasn’t that hard. And although I hate to contribute to the demise of iconic American enterprises, their emphasis on sterile, hideous modern decor and their wokeness made it less painful than I had anticipated. Just call me The Mouse That Roared
Did these politicians not see the ‘Lower your expectations’ memes?
The Dobbs Decision and the Resumption of the State-By-State Abortion Debate
https://jonathanturley.org/2022/06/26/the-dobbs-decision-and-the-resumption-of-the-state-by-state-abortion-debate/
Absurd…..banning gold from Russia?
They’ll just sell it to other countries. Not like there’s a lack of demand or anything. Stupid.
Well since Russia has been buying a lot of their own gold and China and India have been mass buying gold the last few years (in anticipation of a new global reserve) this should have zero effect on Russia, but hasten the death of the US dollar as the reserve currency and the collapse of the Euro.
Obama is waging Economic War on Russia to cripple his real enemy: the USA.
#Evil Not Stupid
^^^This^^^ Exactly this!
What a bunch of dopes. All they will do is drive up the price of gold which means Russia will sell it at a higher price, and will cause those doing business with Russia to pay more when paying with Rubles or Gold.
The price of gold over the last year or so has been questionable at best. In an inflation cycle like we’ve seen, gold prices should have risen way more than it has. This has led some of us to believe the market, like everything else, has been significantly manipulated. Even now with Russia demanding gold back currency, the price hasn’t risen like it should.
To aid the further, planned impoverishment of the West.
he may forget only canada /eu/nz/au//japan/south korea /malaysia…..is on fjb/nato team…. rest of the world is pro-Russia and that is 6 billons….
These people are that stupid!
What makes them think that Russia, and China too, haven’t been building up their gold and other precious metals holdings in order to put their currencies onto a gold standard?
Publicly supported?
Next up: price controls, rationing, and nationalization
A draft text shared with Bloomberg would see the G-7 “acknowledge that publicly supported investment in the gas sector is necessary as a temporary response to the current energy crisis.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-25/germany-pushes-for-g-7-reversal-on-fossil-fuels-in-climate-blow
Smug, arrogant idiots……sensiitve content?
Nancy is realizing the influx of Hispanic immigrants into the country may backfire on the marxist, progressive democrats. So, she gives new representative, Republican Mayra Flores’ kid a little shove, just like she ripped up Trump’s State of the Union speech because the truth burns her. She has impulse control problems along with everything else.
https://defiantamerica.com/video-reveals-the-real-nancy-pelosi-as-she-elbows-a-little-girl-while-her-conservative-latina-mother-is-being-sworn-in-no-msm-coverage/
A human would have instinctively put their arm around the child’s shoulder. The Pickled Witch openly seethes.
She didn’t like the kid being so close She couldn’t do her trademark , characteristic right wing span arm movement that is almost her neurological tic or something . She kept that scary grandmother smile plastered to her face as she pushed the kid away from her and at least didn’t push her off the podium . And Biden wasn’t there … which would have been totally gross….
The kid’s just blessed that it was just Reichstag Nanzi and not Side-Boob Biden.
An Awkward Kiss Changed How I Saw Joe Biden (thecut.com)– Lucy Flores:
“I felt him get closer to me from behind. He leaned further in and inhaled my hair. I was mortified. I thought to myself, “I didn’t wash my hair today and the vice-president of the United States is smelling it. And also, what in the actual f*ck? Why is the vice-president of the United States smelling my hair?” He proceeded to plant a big slow kiss on the back of my head. My brain couldn’t process what was happening. I was embarrassed. I was shocked. I was confused. There is a Spanish saying, “tragame tierra,” it means, “earth, swallow me whole.” I couldn’t move and I couldn’t say anything. I wanted nothing more than to get Biden away from me. My name was called and I was never happier to get on stage in front of an audience.”
Like that would stop him.
Maybe a well placed and loudly stated, WTF, what are you doing to me, Mr. Biden? Don’t touch me!” Might send a message.
How about “Stop! Don’t touch me there; that is my no-no square!
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You would think that by now, this man would have had a stern ‘talking to’ by his handlers.
Reminding him that not only conservatives find this repulsive but democrats might also object.
Wow! I hope that the repeat slow motion of Pelosi looking down and purposely elbowing that little girl is spread all over the internet and Latin community! Here’s some reality IMO.
Yeah, that was so mean and vile, not surprising coming from Nancy but her true colors should be shown to everyone.
Her Majesty can’t allow the brown plebes to get to close .
Democrats have always been the party of racism.
Agreed. Nanz was afraid the sticky fingered little pickpocket was after her mini bottles of Ketel One.
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This is not a defense of Nanzi, whatsoever, but what I saw was the little girl with her left arm bent to her own waist. In that position, she maybe tried to nudge Nanzi off the stage, which p.o.’d the pos to the extent that she had to get back at a LITTLE GIRL . . .
The little girl did get right back in the space she had been occupying, so kudos to her.
Well, I can’t resist:
“it’s for the children”/s
I hope Mayra Flores and her husband have seen the video. And all hispanic voters. I’m convinced Pelosi is rayciss, she doesn’t like hispanic kids. She probably treats them like they were just released from a border shelter even though they were born in the US.
I choose LIFE!
True dat.
President Michael Avenatti? Never say never!
July 5, 2018
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/05/politics/michael-avenatti-donald-trump-2020/index.html
This may hurt him in New Hampshire.
Now do Epstein.
“That’s what Hillary said!”
Maybe 2028. lol He and Gillum can run together.
Just before it was forcibly derailed./S
Not being a legal or constructive scholar, I wonder since the Roe vs Wade decision was based on Amendment 14 and Right to Privacy, could it have been expanded to drugs.
I mean “My Body My Choice” could include drugs and Right To Privacy. The drug dealers could be like Planned Parenthood to help provide drug counseling and drugs to drug users.
Makes sense to me.
You make me wonder how the racists of old who wanted blacks aborted and sterilized until they disappeared, never argued for the Brit’s Opium solution for China? Or is that Welfare and the murder rates in Dem cities are all about?
Read the SCOTUS decision, resulting from States attempting to legalise Marajiuana, …in violation of Federal drug policy, theres your answer.
Row may have been based on the 14th, but the repeal was based on the 10th.
Healthcare is a STATE authority; STATES licence providers, from Drs and nurses to clinics and hospitals, EXCEPT abortion clinics, pre-overturn.
The Feds vast overreach can be cut back, if States and We, the People push back.
I wasn’t trying to rationalize or justify the Roe vs Wade decision at all. Just trying to point out that there could be other interpretations of the constitution based on Privacy and My Body My Choice arguments to justify all kinds of weird/ harmful behavior. The left is going crazy pushing gender fluidity and sexual behavior and changes as protected behavior.
Just seems the left will try to push their interpretation of the constitution to whatever they want it to be reflecting on todays society.
The imaginary justifications for Roe were spread all over the amendments. Casey narrowed it down. But it was still imaginary. Not really there.
If there were such a right in the 14th, it would supersede any earlier amendment.
Imagine if they decided a case based on the earlier prohibition amendment, completely saying it overruled the later repeal amendment.
That is a big part of this ruling. It takes down every last fraudulent argument for Roe and for Casey.
There is no where left to hide their false justifications. They will have to take apart his arguments or start anew.
Apparently (I learned from the Harmeet Dillon video plus some extra reading), the privacy argument was pretty much abandoned because the life of the mother isn’t the only one affected by abortion, the unborn baby is affected too (in the worst way!). So the case that superseded Roe, which is Casey, relied only on the 14th Amendment Due Process clause, but Casey decision didn’t even re-evaluate the Roe logic with respect to this clause, it just used the logic as a proper precedent.
If I’ve got any of this wrong, someone please correct me!
Have you noticed the most demonic responses to the SC Roe decision have been by obese, very unattractive women?
I suspect there is some psychosis associated with their response.
In some bizarre way it reinforces their need to think of themselves as still viable sexually, and since, in reality, they know they’re not, this is a safe space that allows them to delude themselves.
How many are biological females????
A: None. You’re not a biologist.
The ‘new left’ became obsessed with abortion during the 1960’s during the ‘sexual revolution’ because it was viewed as a means to facilitate ‘free sex’ without consequences that always go along irresponsible behavior. . . . . . which goes hand in hand with their irresponsible behavior when it comes to grooming, personal hygiene and maintaining a healthy lifestyle. In their world, anything requiring them to behave responsibly and live up to the basic expectations for an individual in a civil society is just plain mean – in other words, they’re self-centered spoiled brats.
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So much of everything leftist is all about their sex lives. Tranny etc. Pride Month. Even Monkeypox.
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Not really. If it was about their lives, they would keep it in the bedroom.
It is about shoving it in your face. It is about making you swallow it. It is about taking your children and perverting and debasing them and making you watch. It is about making you do it all for them. And making you applaud and thank them.
I think it’s just that well over 50% of that age cohort is fat. It’s astonishing how fat and doughy millennials and Gen Z are. And it’s not just the girls/women. I drive by a college campus everyday, and those kids are way fatter than people were when I was in college.
I think it’s all the crap in the processed food that has made America way fatter and each generation fatter than the one that preceded it.
I’ve been observing something in my extended family and friends for years now. The silent generation was thinner at 50 than the Boomers were. The Boomers were thinner at 50 than Gen X is. Gen X was thinner at 30 than the millennials, and the millennials were thinner at 15 or 20 than Gen Z is.
And btw, they are having sex. My local mall is full of fat girls/women with multiple children. And the fat girls at the local high schools are going to prom like everyone else.
I do think there’s a correlation between blue/green hair and behavior as well as gender confusion.
“I think it’s all the crap in the processed food that has made America way fatter and each generation fatter than the one that preceded it.”
I agree completely! Back in the 70s when I was in high school, there were a small cohort of “curvy” girls but most of us were lean and fit…average height was probably 5’4″-5’7″ and weight around 110-130. Most of the guys were around 5’10-6’2″ and weighed in at 180 or so and very few had facial hair in high school.
I fed my kids wholesome food and they got very little junk or processed crap. We almost never ate “fast food” and pop was for special occasions. They are now in their early 30s and both are still pretty fit and healthy…but I have nieces and nephews on both sides of the family who grew up eating Mickey D’s 2-3x a week, drinking pop instead of milk/water with most meals (I do not care if it’s Diet Coke – it’s still crap!) and they are all overweight, out of shape and have major health issues. The girls are 5’8″-5’10” and weight well over 200 lbs and my 22 year old nephew had a beard by the time he was 16! That is NOT normal, IMHO!
Interesting…….I guess your “female profile” in the 70s remained the same as it was in the early 60s when I was in high school. Half the girls back then wore T shirts (with no problems) and the other half were just starting with training bras……………
“Pop.” I love it. That’s what we called it too. From my youth on the farm. “Let’s stop for a bottle of pop at the station” (a gas station that had multiple chairs inside and out for farmers to sit and talk about the weather and politics). Those were the days.
SwanRiverGriz…..We “went to town” twice a year and the Cherry pop from those gas station ice vending machines was the best thing evah!!!! :0)
Back in the day: No personal computers and social media for sitting, and sitting.
Yes! I had this coversation with some random women I met in a Walmart. One mother spoke of all the unusual food sensitivities her young child had.
I brought up the fact that mothers of small size, with average size husbands, seemed to be having bigger babies than in the past.
The third woman mentioned boys being way taller than their fathers at earlier ages.
Something strange going on.
It was Fauci’s job to find out why children were having all these unusual sensitivities.
He wasted our money on bioweapons.
It’s growth hormones fed to Tyson’s, Pilgrim’s pride, etc.
Chicken is (was) a cheap protein to feed hungry growing kids. Unless you buy organic proteins, you’re getting hormone pumped chicken.
It happens to a lesser degree with other proteins.
180? Most of my high school male classmates were closer to 160, including myself.
My 6’3″ husband was 155 when we got married – I joke that it took me 25 years to put 25 pounds on him! LOL! My brother played monster back for our HS football team – he was 6’1″ and would bulk up to 195 during the fall, only to drop back to 180 when the season was over. And they were both very “normal” guys in that time period….
partially, its the drop in smoking
smoking kept society thinner and social security’s coffers flusher.
Yes, the drop in smoking, together with the “low fat diet” scam, are certainly factors.
I think also, fewer kids walking anywhere, but that’s also just a contributing factor.
These young people need help, but what they are getting is a vaccine they don’t need that may maim or kill them.
The money that should have been spent on finding out why so many Americans are becoming obese, which is a major health issue, was instead spent on creating a virus to kill them.
Fat comes from a sugar based diet. Sugar is in almost all processed foods. Cut out grains, processed foods and sugar and turn to a whole foods, fat based diet. Pounds fall off.
Michelle Obama’s “healthy” school lunches are sugar based.
That was my VERY FIRST THOUGHT AS WELL…just a bunch of FAT, UGLY WOMEN WITH NOTHING ELSE ON THEIR PLATE.
As with the Viet Nam era, there are people who just join protests to feel like a rebel without actually being one.
I was one for a few minutes. In college I signed a petition to ban manufacture of the SST. The petitioner was a cute male hippy and I was a nerd. As I walked away I realized I didn’t even know why I wanted the SST banned. So embarrassed of myself. Changed my thinking.
That’s the age when we do question and change our minds.
Speaking of fat, REALLY ugly women….
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/letitia-james-new-york-state-will-pay-travel-costs-for-your-abortion/
As a cost saving measure, I suggest the ticket be one way…
aren’t you thrilled if you are a tax payer in New York?
I don’t see how an AG makes that happen.
It is also the result of the societal stuff where the is no fat shaming, everyone is entitled to be who they are. No teasing, all that crap. Safe spaces.
It’s the ushering in of a generation who don’t have a clue what gender they are and can be as fat and as pierced and tattooed as they want.
No one is unattractive and even if they are it is ok because it is self expression or some crap.
At some point all of this lunacy might be easy to beat because they will be too dysfunctional to fight.
This sounds like something Rush would say about the feminism movement being for ugly women, and the “Uglo-Anericans.”
I don’t know about that. I’ve seen some pretty demonic responses by lean, fit, attractive celebrities, sports figures, newscasters, etc. Doesn’t seem like a generalization that holds up.
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Ok. But don’t those that you mentioned have to tow the DEI and ESG lines in order to be paid . . .?
“In some bizarre way it reinforces their need to think of themselves as still viable sexually, and since, in reality, they know they’re not, this is a safe space that allows them to delude themselves. ”
Well put. It’s like those naked protests ,they do because no one wants to see their bodies in private.
I would laugh and move on if we’re not for the fact that their “safe space” is surrounded by the innocent souls of the unborn.
Narcissism is one thing, but when it requires the genocide of the unborn…
The new Jordan Peterson! 😉
Abortions to move underground in half the US: Here’s how it might work
By Anne Flaherty
25 Jun 2022
https://www.mycentraloregon.com/2022/06/25/abortions-to-move-underground-in-half-the-us-heres-how-it-might-work
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Delusional. They are desperate to invigorate hysterical propaganda from the 70s.
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No it really won’t. People I knew growing up used the morning after pill thing.
Let them drive to a blue state… gives them time to think about their choices.
It seems to me that liberal women think if abortion as their only means of birth control. They do not know that if they can get pregnant they can also get STDs. Pretty stupid for “educated” people.
Yes and STD’s are always around.
But don’t forget the bruhaha about birth control pills during the obamacare debacle, what 12 years ago?. Happened at Georgetown University if I recall correctly.
Between condoms, birth control pills, insertable anti pregnancy gels, the morning after pill, IUD’s and diaphragms, etc… I fail to see a need for a surgical procedure.
And here is the other thing. In most states, even Red ones, they have 15weeks to get their lazy ass in for an abortion. So what is their
big protest deal? Abortion is not 100% banned.
Well they are not interested in the ‘morning after’ pill, so I agree.
Women who couldn’t bother to use readily available birth control will do some underground sh*t?
Colour me: doubt
Yeah….Waaaaay underground….Like through the gates of hell…
This is the mindset of far too many in our society. Very sad for that little boy.
IMHO,…
The 2nd amendments use and value, in addressing tyranical government overreach, is like nuclear weopons value, in addressing invasion.
Yes, it has great DETERENCE, but if you ever have to USE it, EVERYBODY loses.
perhaps it depends on your definition of lose. If we were to band together instead of screeching molon labe from our basements, or form specific objectives of defense around people or businesses who would be persecuted by the fascist feds, things would be different.
The Reason – TRUE HEROES – NEVER TALK about HAVING to TAKE ANOTHER PERSON’S LIFE in Defense of COUNTRY, LIFE or PROPERTY –
IS
The INDIVIDUAL LOSES ” PART of THEIR HUMANITY ” and REALIZES that THEY ALONE
WILL ANSWER TO
GOD
i HAVE NEVER Been PUT in That Situation AND PRAY that i NEVER AM.
I HAVE Close Family that Has, IT WAS HIS DUTY to PROTECT HIS MEN and MISSION.
OUR GOD GIVEN RIGHTS and RESPONSIBILITIES – ARE SOLEMN OATHS.
qrw
The 2nd Amendment is the very last straw.
Where are we in this struggle? I guess it depends on perspective or interpretation of events.
I can make a compelling argument either way. Sadly, I believe the point of no return is going to be tested.
We’ll see.
Joe hits G7 with checkbook in hand
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-detail-200-billion-global-infrastructure-effort-rcna35372
TELFS, Austria — President Joe Biden will outline plans Sunday for a range of global infrastructure projects the U.S. aims to help finance with $200 billion in government and private sector funds as he looks to counter similar efforts by China.
It’s just simply repulsive how he signs checks for every country but our own- really detest him as a human being.
its the looting of the treasury phase of an empire’s downfall. And if we’re being honest, at this point its funny money anyway – so everyone who CAN, SHOULD.
It is not looting the treasury. It is looting us.
Looting us now and in the future. Not just our future, but looting our kid’s future. And our grandkids future.
LOL! Where will the $$$ come from? CHINA.
A few days ago I put a comment here which highlighted an article in Gates of Vienna.
It said that Pfizer would no longer conduct ANY clinical trials for any vaxxes they introduce in the future, thus paving the way for compulsory vaxxing, without the need for those inconvenient long term studies of adverse reactions.
Further, so far they have not provided any specimens of their current deadly vaxxes for analysis for purity testing, as requested in Europe. An outright ignoring of the request.
Now this today, linked through Citizen Free Press…
On the site BROWNSTONE INSTITUTE
“The FDA’s ‘Future Framework’ for Covid Vaccines is a Reckless Plan”
From the article we find this.
“So Pfizer and Modern have figured out a way to use regulatory capture to get their reformulated Covid-19 shots approved WITHOUT further clinical trials. Their scheme is called ‘Future Framework’ and it will be voted on by the FDA’ Vaccine and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee (VRBPAC) on June 28.”
When I read the GoV article I knew they would attempt this here. And so it will be…voted upon by the same genocidal, corrupt FDA which no doubt will green light this appalling proposal.
So, don’t ask what’s in future RNA vaxxes (which all heretofore known vaxxines will become after “reformulation”) which will be mandated. Don’t look for the package insert which gives important relevant product information. Whatever is in them will be classified as “proprietary”, like the formula for Coca-Cola.
This news is appalling but not unexpected. It is the next chapter in the WEF plan to rid the world of Yuval Noah Harari’s ” useless eaters”.
Forewarned is forearmed.
The FDA has to go to more and more extreme measures because so many medical journals are printing articles which don’t show the jabs in a favorable light.
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/immune-imprinting-comirnaty-and-omicron-520?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=cta&action=share&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/pfizer-vaccine-effects-on-total-motile?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/the-news-for-covid-vaccines-gets
Thank you for those, Carrie. Full speed ahead for the eugenecists at the FDA, the WHO, the WEF, the CDC, the NIH, and all their full blown evil fellow travelers such as Gates, Schwab, Harari, Johnson, Trudeau, Ardern, and many more.
I’m sharing as fast as my fingers can type everything that is finally coming out.
….And then there is this…..
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/jim-jordan-gets-debbie-birx-to-admit-the-truth/
Wow–what’s with that puffy face? She looks unwell….and “blowsy” all of a sudden.
Where are birx control pills when you need one?
Couple of links on that…
Dr. Toby Rogers on Bannon earlier this week:
“Dr. Toby Rogers: The FDA Wants To Eliminate ‘Clinical Trials’ For Pharmaceuticals Companies”
https://rumble.com/v19mpoi-dr.-toby-rogers-the-fda-wants-to-eliminate-clinical-trials-for-pharmaceutic.html
Rogers’ Brownstone article:
https://brownstone.org/articles/the-fdas-future-framework-for-covid-vaccines-is-reckless-plan/
Thanks for that, mr piddles. At the bottom of that article there is a substack link to the original which headline is even more horrific.
Some clinical trials charge your insurance for required testing during the trials. Not sure how this will play out. Could be a lost source of income for hospitals.
Clinical Trials have huge ethics requirements. Not sure how they plan to circumvent that one although I am sure they are working on it.
I served on an ethics board for human subjects research (clinical trials) for several years. Grueling work but one of the most rewarding things I’ve ever done. I finally found it necessary to reduce my exposure to self-inflicted information overload on the subject. If there’s such a thing as catatonic rage, it takes me there. With so few grains left in my hour glass, I simply cannot allow it.
Link to Dr Toby Rogers Substack article.
https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/the-fdas-proposed-future-framework
“The FDA’s ‘Future Framework’ for Covid Vaccines is
a Reckless PlanMurder”btw, Franken-Fauci & the Pfizer Pfascists plan to make mRNA Injections for cancer, heart disease, hangnails, bad hair days, etc..
If there’s a nickel in it.
Or a corpse.
Oh you betcha, Gipper. The toxic spike protein in every one. They know it kills and maims. That was what the Covid experimentals were for. They have their data. It works. Now every injection coming, including the triple one next year for covid (whatever ever iteration has already passed, but never mind) flu, and RSA , will be constructed in the same way.
More death and quicker. Win win…for Pharma. What happens when they kill all their customers?
Good find!
Chance, AG, if there is such a thing. I tend to think otherwise.
Yuvayuvahyeee Noachide Hasbari is a useless eater who talks too much out of his bung hole. He should lead by example and self destruct at G7. Publicly. Spectacularly.
https://pjmedia.com/columns/robert-spencer/2022/06/25/is-the-green-agenda-being-forced-upon-us-by-accident-n1608055
FTA “The Left hates oil and gas, beef (and chicken, and all meat), and coal. But millions of Americans don’t believe the hysterical Leftist claims that these things are destroying the planet. What to do about these folks? A number of suspicious recent incidents suggest that some people have decided to take matters into their own hands and force compliance with the green agenda by leaving us no other choice.
Maybe it’s all just a huge coincidence. Accidents do happen, and many of these incidents have been classified as just that, accidents, with no foul play suspected. The problem with that is the sheer number of these incidents (and this article doesn’t contain a complete list) as well as the fact that all these alleged accidents coincide perfectly with the push towards the bicycle-riding, bug-eating future the Left envisions for us. Whatever their cause, if these fires, derailments, and other odd incidents keep happening, we’ll simply have no other choice than to go green and start chowing down on grasshoppers.”
Well I for one will not eat bugs! My body my choice apparently doesn’t apply to the eating of steak or any meat!!! If the left wants to eat grasshoppers so be it but they want everyone to be as miserable as they are!!!
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I have been wondering if all the food production/distribution plant fires, etc., was a co-ordinated effort to slim down Americans . . .?
But for the left to do this, purposefully, would not they be hurting all those Roe protesting women that were addressed above?
The news for Covid vaccines gets worse and worse
A big study says natural immunity protects against Omicron for over a year; mRNA shots fail in months. This is the third paper with awful mRNA data in a week. When will the media even pretend to care?
Alex Berenson
Jun 22
This paper provides a population-level counterpart to the bench findings published in the Lancet last week that showed vaccinated people had little antibody or T-cell protection against Omicron within months – even after a third dose. The shots simply do not work against Omicron. Whether they will provide any protection at all against severe outcomes within a few months of being dosed remains unclear. What to do next is also unclear.
Whether the media and public health authorities will be honest about any of this is clear, though: they won’t.
First, do no harm.
And if you can’t do no harm, ignore it!
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/the-news-for-covid-vaccines-gets
I just ordered $150 of Panacure C from Amazon. Just in case.
I don’t like Amazon but sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do!!
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The thing you must ask yourself is – How/Why are the mrna’d people less safe from covid than the omnicron immunity people
The thing you must ask yourself is – How/Why are the mrna’d people less safe from covid than the omnicron immunity people
With the Roe V Wade decision, we will now have safe baby states and killer baby states. Since the hollywood so-called celebrities reside in the killer state of Ca. , they can just stfu about abortion. Good people who value life can relocate to states like Texas. I’m hoping this recent decision will help clean up Austin, TX and Houston!
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They will be trying to raid red state people to adopt their children and/or get women to be surrogate gestators. We need to outlaw surrogacy and perhaps also take a hard look on the rules about who may adopt.
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The really bad news about the covid shot is out, it’s undeniable, except it is still being denied, we are moving in lockstep toward constant shots for all.
Show me any politician making this an issue. They don’t know or they don’t care. That includes Republicans too.
My concern about the recent Supreme Court decision is that it will be used to claim that the states have the power to force any kind of tyranny at all on the citizens, as long as it expressly forbidden in the Constitution.
So, a majority of voters can decide my personal medical choices, etc., and my only option will be to move?
I don’t see that as living in a Constitutional Republic at all. People living a vagabond lifestyle, pulling up stakes and running from state to state to get away from abusive governments?
Before you tell me it can’t happen, look what already has happened to human rights and freedoms in America.
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The Dobbs decision reiterated that the states are constrained by the first eight amendments to the Constitution and went to great lengths to explain why abortion isn’t a right that was included when the 14th Amendment imposed the restrictions in the Bill of Rights on the various states.
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Our elected politicians are weak followers- they are not leaders. When these ridiculous jab rules are lifted expect to hear the usual lines like- I was just doing what we were told to do and it seemed like the right thing to do at the time, etc..
Austria has finally rescinded their vax mandates- because it was causing rifts in the public. Gee, ya think? Read below to see how the politicians are managing this about face in policy.
https://www.eugyppius.com/p/austria-set-to-retire-the-vaccine/
Robert Malone also linked to that article- politicians are weak, we need more strong people like Trump, Greene, etc
“Isn’t” expressly forbidden.
I just have a bad feeling about the timing of the Court’s decision.
if you wold like a politician to care about any of this, you will first have to correct and protect the vote.
So, remember last week when there was that historic Supreme Court decision that allowed NY’ers to conceal and carry WITHOUT having to show some exceptional reason (NY held that line for decades and practically no one without political connections could cross it), well, the lawyer who won the case was a Paul Clement. Paul Clement works for one of NYC largest law firms, Kirkland and Ellis. They cater to wealthy corporate issues. They also famously defended a certain Mr Epstein in a certain Palm Beach case where it came out that he was a confidential informant for the FBI (but I digress). After his win, Kirkland and Ellis FIRED Mr. Clement because they demanded that he must drop all of his firearm clients. So he left the firm and is going to open up a new one. Unbelievable the depths of politicism that has now invaded even the law firms that are supposed to DEFEND our rights. Mr. Clement is an honorable man. Great article below-
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/06/congratulations-youre-fired.php
This is very illuminating. Paul Clement, in DC legal world, is legend. He is brilliant, argues in front of the Supreme Court without notes. ACB is not the only brilliant person in town. That the gun control pushers were able to basically blackmail Kirkland and Ellis to fire him is huge. I truly admire his and his colleague, Erin Murphy’s adherence to principles over capitulation.
The Ticker Guy makes a very important point in this short article:
When There Is No Recourse To The Law….
Karl Denninger
…. all you have left is violence.
Having just secured a landmark decision vindicating our clients’ constitutional Second Amendment rights in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen, we were presented with a stark choice—withdraw from representing them or withdraw from the firm. There was only one choice: We couldn’t abandon our clients simply because their positions are unpopular in some circles.
This sort of behavior by law firms should and must lead to their immediate forced dissolution and disbarment of the firm’s partners and principals.
Why?
Because if it doesn’t we will inevitably wind up shooting each other.
Why do drug dealers shoot each other over a corner? Because they can’t sue.
https://market-ticker.org/post=246203
let it come, already.
For those who know math, this is 18 days after the last semi-fair Presidential election.
Hillary Clinton Joins Recount Efforts in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania…
By Sundance
26 Nov 2016
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2016/11/26/hillary-clinton-joins-recount-efforts-in-wisconsin-michigan-and-pennsylvania
Green Party Fleeces Sheeple and Files for Recount in Wisconsin…
By Sundance
25 Nov 2016
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2016/11/25/green-party-fleeces-sheeple-and-files-for-recount-in-wisconsin
This is actually more proof that the democrat party actually used 2016 to divest themselves of the Clintons.
Per none other Donna Brazile’s own book, the DNC was bankrupt in 2016 and the Clinton Foundation assumed the debts of the DNC and the Clinton’s thought they bought control of the Democrat Party.
Then in short order:
The machines and vote harvesting mysteriously did not work in 2016.
The DNC (Clinton’s) funded these 3 loosing recounts … President elect Trump actually gained votes.
Russia-Russia did not have desired effect … Note Obama’s DoJ DID NOT Act.
In January 2017, VP Biden presided over the Congressional Session that certified President-Elect Trump’s victory, with NO Objection.
Hillary has not even had a sniff at importance in Presidential politics since 2016, in fact like George Sorros, the Clinton Foundation was shuttered with the money hidden elsewhere until recently (when Hillary agreed not to run for office).
It’s interesting that on election night, Obama was the one who told her to concede and she instantly did.
Someone who has worked on political campaigns told me that Hillary failed to clean house of Obama’s losers, such as Donna Brazile.
Then there was novice Robbie Mook, when she could have afforded the best.
It is not as if the Clintons did not understand how to run campaigns. Hillary’s husband was superb at it.
So why did she make so many “mistakes”?
They underestimated their steal machinations set up in 2016 which Trump blew out the water. Thus they had to do a massive new algorithim/setup for the 2020 steal/fraud/high treason
When There Is No Recourse To The Law….
Our adversarial process only works when competent representation is available. When groups of attorneys — not individuals but firms representing dozens, hundreds or thousands of legal professionals blackball particular positions because they disagree with them socially that destroys the adversarial process and acts as a judiciary without exposition of the evidence or trial.
If you want to know why nobody has brought suit over what appears to be blatantly fraudulent data mishandling with the jabs, this is likely why. Now we have law firms doing so for Second Amendment cases, which is tantamount to lawyers deciding among themselves that the Second Amendment is void, of no effect and will not be litigated or defended.
An attorney is an officer of the court — not a mere private businessperson. This sort of interference with the bringing of legitimate cases, and in this circumstance the case which led to the issue was won, and therefore by the highest court in the land found to be virtuous, is not only outrageous its un-American.
https://market-ticker.org/post=246203
Bill Barr and DURHAM DID NOTHING. A sad ending to the WORST, most EVIL and CRIMINAL SCANDAL and COUP in the history of America.
https://emeralddb3.substack.com/p/durham-played-you-for-a-fool?s=r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
did they help PDJT’s civil cases? I did not follow much but heard about Robbie Mook’s testimony which should be very beneficial to the civil suits
This has not ended ………
It Had to Be This Way
Clandestine 20 hrS ago
For those that don’t understand why it had to be this way, think about the optics in 2017 juxtaposed to 2022.
I think many of you forgot what it was like in 2017. Trying to wake up normies was a tough business. My friends and family looked at me like I was an eight-headed monster when I told them that a global Deep State entity infiltrated the US government to include the White House, nearly all of Congress, the highest echelons of the DOJ, FBI, CIA, DNI, State Dept, the mainstream media, big tech, social media, Hollywood, academia, pharmaceuticals, health care, etc.
In 2022, the normies are MUCH more willing to accept this reality, simply because they’ve seen it proven to them.
-Mueller exonerated Trump, Russian collusion was a hoax, then Durham showed there was a calculated effort between elements within the DNC, FBI, CIA, DOJ, DNI, State Dept, British MI6, and the Obama White House, to frame and spy on Trump. The overall faith in Executive institutions has dropped off dramatically.
-The MSM have blatantly proven their corruption and weaponization, simply because they just can’t stop lying. Polls show that dramatically less people believe the media now than they ever have. Mueller, C19, Vaccines, Ukraine, etc., all the narratives ended up being complete fabrications. CNN and MSNBC’s ratings have fallen off of a cliff, and the Deep State has significantly less control over the minds of the People.
-Big Tech and Social Media have shown their corruption via algorithmic manipulation to brainwash the public and deter people from consuming any wrongthink content. Not to mention the mass censorship, attack on free speech, weaponization of content moderation to attack political opponents, election interference by censoring stories like the Hunter Biden laptop and US Biolabs in Ukraine, etc. Elon’s Twitter saga brought this reality to the forefront for normies. Huge realization for centrists….
https://freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/4074073/posts?page=9#1
It is sad and maddening that so many videos are missing. Totally disgusting how yuckboob has ERASED AND OBLITERATED HISTORY.
The Historic Facts About Illegal Alien Voters (Full Research pdf)…
By Sundance
27 Nov 2016
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2016/11/27/the-historic-facts-about-illegal-alien-voters-full-research-pdf
Amen!!
In a nutshell, I’m tired of people who make terrible decisions rather consistently, lecturing me about Democracy and the Constitution. The word “Democracy” isn’t even in the Constitution, nor is it in the Declaration of Independence. Though our politicians are democratically elected, with the exception of the President, we live in a Constitutional Republic. You’d think the people charged with managing our Republic would know the difference. If they did, there would be far less of them, and a whole lot more freedom for us.
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https://t.me/mel_gibsonchannel/1433
Joe & Judas. WOW!
Joe Biden With Mike Pence: “I’m Confident Everything is in Good Hands”…
By Sundance
16 Nov 2016
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2016/11/16/joe-biden-with-mike-pence-im-confident-everything-is-in-good-hands
Wow! Both of these guys cannot read a room.
Ann Coulter: Trump Victory Was The Defeat of Globalism….
By Sundance
9 Nov 2016
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2016/11/09/ann-coulter-trump-victory-was-the-defeat-of-globalism
While everyone’s knickers are in a twist over Ukraine and Russia, is anybody paying attention to what the Muslims are doing?
they are overtaking the world see sanity for sweden
There are still too many Americans who don’t know the difference between a Constitutional government and a Totalitarian government. They think they are living under a Constitutional Presidency when in fact they are living under a Totalitarian Presidency.
Most Americans know something is wrong, but have no idea what it is making it wrong. Libtards do not care about “right” or “wrong” they only care about how they “feel” at the moment.
I love Patriot Nurse. She hits all the right points in who we really are as women.
US Secretary of State apologizes to the world for the cruel and horrid US Constitution and the Judicial Branch.
(Lefties and commies are so committed and fearless that I grudgingly admire them.)
https://hotair.com/karen-townsend/2022/06/26/blinkens-disgraceful-apology-tour-scotus-ruling-on-dobbs-raises-concerns-across-the-world-n478811
‘My first thought as I came round was Oh God! What have I done?’: Man suing the NHS over trans surgery he bitterly regrets has bravely waived anonymity to share his ordeal
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10953157/Man-suing-NHS-trans-surgery-regrets-bravely-waived-anonymity-share-ordeal.html
Sad, but note “mental health crisis” thats Liberalism itself. A mental illness
Maybe that’s why the doctors did such an unconscionable thing to this man. They approved of his mental illness, so they aided and abetted it.
And they create it with their cultural marxist programming in the schools, tv.media etc etc
Yuvahyuvahyee Noachide Hasbari, Dr. WEF Evil’s No. 2, chortles over tragedies like this. Mr. Herron voluntarily took himself out of the gene pool. He produced no more useless eaters. Bravo.
Now you know why trans and gay are pushed so hard.
I have yet to find any TV news reports bothering to explain why Roe was tossed out. I watched some PBS News Hour reporting and a guest started to explain but then launched into a “here’s how the Democrats can win from this point onward” diatribe. The Dems do not want their base to be educated! The flawed logic of Roe and the logic of dumping Roe are really interesting! Every voter should understand it. But the Dems don’t want their base to understand it, they want their base to be ignorant and histrionic, angrily parroting falsehoods like “the Supreme Court banned abortion!” or “they’re going to ban contraception!”. My only consolation is knowing that Dem cultmembers can escape. I did.
The magnitude of the brave justices’ decision is becoming more apparent to me with every hour that passes.
I agree but I do believe they are using it to try and deflect away from the economic/cultural/demographic crimes against America. Rumor is that it no longer matters because of the Covid Clotshot
Yes, I would like the complexities of the legal basis of the ruling broken down so that a non-lawyer like me can fully understand it.
Jim Stone thinks it no longer matters because of the Covid Clotshot
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Here is the really simplistic overview:
Roe v. Wade, and its sort of reaffirming decision Casey v. PP, were tossed out because both were wrong the day they were decided.
In Roe, the Supreme Court used spurious and pretextual reasoning to invent a right that to that point never had been recognized as existing in the United States. The subsequent case, Casey,20 years later, essentially acknowledged that much of the reasoning in Roe was wrong and purported to kind of re-do it, but still assumed the nonexistent “right” existed.
When the U.S. Constitution first was ratified, the Bill of Rights was added to clarify that the federal government was limited to the powers granted to it. At that time, there was no issue regarding what states could or could not do. The states were not restricted in the same way because the Constitution was about the new federal government.
In connection with eliminating slavery, however, the 14th Amendment was held to also restrict the states to not violating certain fundamental rights of its citizens. So the issue in Dobbs then was: what rights must the states also not violate, now that to some extent the U.S. Constitution also controls what states can and cannot do.
The current Dobbs decision said, basically: rights that were recognized in the United States at the time that the 14th Amendment was enacted that could be said also to restrict what the states can and cannot do (“substantive due process”). The majority decision was careful to say, however, that it was not deciding anything other than the “right” that Roe found to exist, i.e. abortion.
The new decision essentially says: Roe et al. cases were wrong. Abortion is not a right that was recognized to exist at the time of the 14th Amendment, and therefore it could not and is not imposed via the 14th Amendment as a restriction on state governments.
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As patriot Trish Regan warned they were going to do and she sacrificed her job/show at Neocon Fox to warn us. Could not be said better by our real President. Kudo’s clarion
i TEND TO AGREE.
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I told you the Depp/Heard case had political overtones, for some reason.
Judge finalizes jury verdict in Johnny Depp’s trial, requiring Amber Heard to pay him millions of dollars
Following the hearing, a spokesperson for Heard issued a statement to reporters that referred to Republican members of Congress asking for pardons amid their attempts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election.
“As stated in yesterday’s congressional hearings, you don’t ask for a pardon if you are innocent,” the spokesperson said. “And, you don’t decline to appeal if you know you are right.”
https://www.insider.com/johnny-depp-amber-heard-jury-verdict-finalized-without-settlement-2022-6
These Are the States Where Abortion Is Now Banned
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/miacathell/2022/06/24/these-are-the-states-where-abortion-is-banned-now-n2609296?
hmmmm…..
Not sure about this article.
Don’t know about the other states, but MO. is said to have legal abortion up to 8 weeks. One of the articles from Townhall links says MO. is legal til heartbeat is detected.
It should be pretty easy for people to find out what -precisely- the laws are in each state.
But for some reason, none of the info out there spells things out clearly for the women who live there.
At any rate, it’s disinfo to say “abortion is illegal in MO.”- and that makes me suspect that it is NOT illegal in the other states listed, either.
correct way to say it – NO CHANGE
things will go on as before
There will be a ‘work around’ for any perceived obstacles
Caught a classic tweet somewhere – Ms Occasional Cortex….
9 federal judges have no jurisdiction over my body
answer: that’s what we said
It was a big change….. babies will be saved.
Every state is different so it will take a little time to let the dust settle.
The “work arounds” aren’t as simple as they sound.
Now that they have lost, the GOPe and democrats will make it sound like “no big deal.”
They do that every time they lose….. it is in their playbook…… and with President Trump winning so much, they get a lot of practice.
“Let’s go Brandon!”
Here is info I have gathered reading since the decision – for what its worth.
First statement – Nothing has changed
2nd – what is repeated and emphasized – A big lie being spread is that states will outlaw all abortions. Not true. Some will try, I am sure. But most state laws have a time limit. x number of weeks or months when it is legal. Most of them will not have any deterrent – like prison or $$ fines. Organizations are already forming to defend anyone indicted or convicted under state law.
Then you have the Feds.
Did Congress allocate funding for abortion (I don’t know how to check this). For instance, is it covered under Medicaid or maybe even Medicare?
One person said yes, another said no – Fed funding will end.
Then there is our wonderful military leadership. My exmilitary doc hubby says that when he was a Flight Surgeon, SAC, in the 1960s their hospital took care of military and family on the base- including all the women’s needs. Read that as d&Cs and abortions as necessary ….
We have no reason to believe that will change – especially since current DOD said they will continue to provide services to their women military. How many states have military bases? Better yet, are there any that do not?
Look for the Feds to tap VA resources – facilities and doctors
Then there is O’Biden saying he plans to build abortion clinics on Fed Land, Idaho and Utah have lots of Fed land. Question I have is re: funding. If we win elections in November maybe we can impact stuff like this by limiting funding.
Then there was a comment that hospitals do more abortions than Planned Parenthood. Followed by a statement from Family Practice Assoc. in Idaho that they intend to continue providing whatever services women need for their health. (yes, I saw the finger in the air)
some of that might be related to whether insurance will cover – but how easy will it be to make a diagnosis and get insurance approval for the procedure?
Comment that State Medical Boards must comply with State Law – so how much effect this will have is unknown and will vary by state.
No federal jurisdiction – true. Federal funding is a different issue methinks
Bottom line – lots of work to be done. Pro Lifers need to understand the laws enacted or pending and funding in their state. Campaign for changes as necessary Where are the Med Boards going to land? Hospital policy and willing doctors. Never forget this is a big cash cow for all involved.
Then, how do you fight the gummit – military and use of Fed land?
How about NYC offering ‘vacation packages’ (paid for by tax $ ? donations ?) Then there are the companies offering paid time and travel for women in abortion free states to go whaerever to get one.
Bottom line – many challenges exist before the abortion horror can be stopped. Besides making / allowing this to be a State’s problem for resolution, people now, more than ever, need to cozy up to state reps to determine ways to really stop murdering babies.
The best info I read (today). If the shots end up causing major and widespread infertility and we really cannot add new people to our country by births then each pregnancy will be treasured, each lost baby a tragedy.
Throw in the people cascading over our borders who have not been ‘jabbed’, who will undoubtedly be fertile – well, you get the picture.
Someone opined that this potential decline in pregnancies (due to the jab) will make abortions unnecessary anyway. Time will tell, but if true they are looking now for new $$ streams. Dunno if they can find new ways to get baby parts if the source dries up.
IMHO we desperately need our VSG P DJT back in the white house to lead the next charge. And / or someone has to begin coordinating the next battles at the state level
“Banned” is not entirely accurate for many states.
In AZ:
“Republicans in the state Legislature passed the new anti-abortion law this year; Gov. Doug Ducey signed it into law in March. Scheduled to take effect 90 days after the Legislature adjourns its current session (something that may happen by the end of June), it bans abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy except if necessary to save the mother’s life. Violating physicians face potential felony charges and loss of their professional licenses.”
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2022/06/24/arizona-abortion-law-roe-v-wade-repeal/7648545001/
Lots of inaccurate info being thrown around for maximum emotional impact.
15 weeks in AZ.
Thank You, bewildered, for clearing that up!
Let’s make a list. So far we’ve got:
1) MO. 8weeks
2) AZ. 15 weeks
>> and both make exceptions for life of mother.
And sorry, I don’t have the link to the MO. info. I posted it a couple nite’s ago when this disinfo 1st starting coming out.
I wanna get this stuff straight before I call some- now REALLY unhinged- people I know. One of whom was actually thinking of voting R for the 1st time in her life…..til this happened.
I’m gonna let her calm down a bit, then call her when I’ve got more facts.
The Mississippi law being challenged was 15 weeks.
I know.
I bet the Dems wish they’d never challenged that one now!
And OMG, you’re right!
Miss. is one of the States *wrongly* listed in the article!
So, we can add MIss. to the list.
There is a list here of where the current laws for each state stand…
https://reason.com/2022/06/24/here-is-a-state-by-state-rundown-of-what-will-happen-now-that-scotus-has-freed-lawmakers-to-restrict-abortion/
And the AZ. 15 weeks law is not even in effect yet!
So the Planned Parenthood shutting it’s facilities in AZ is purely for THEATER.
Just as I suspected.
I’m sure it’s the same for PP in Wisc that shutdown while women were in the waiting room immediately after the SC announcement.
Told all the women in the waiting room to Go. Home.
Theater (at the women’s expense) for maximum effect.
This may be rude, but ….did they get their money back?
try this for more information
Abortion Funds to Support in Each of the States Most Likely to Restrict Abortion (yahoo.com)
I think its fairly up-to-date
spoiler alert – shows how you can donate to help people who get indicted and convicted for violating state law.
see my post above for info I have uncovered since the decision Friday
Banned in Alabama. They passed a law in 2019 that Gov Ivey signed. Pro-abortion people got an injunction. On Friday the AL AG filed a Motion to have the Injunction lifted and the Federal Judge did so that afternoon. It’s now a felony with, I believe, a MINIMUM 10 years, up to 20 year prison sentence. No rape or incest exceptions.
(Exceptions for health of mother, or no?)
If/assuming that what you say is true, then that IS an abortion ban. And more, if there are severe penalties.
Was this law voted on by the people of AL.?
If this was not voted on by the people, I can see a lot of backlash fr/ this one- fr/ both R and D voters.
Again, assuming it’s true.
And yes, I do remember hearing a bit about this when it was being discussed several months back.
The constitutionality of laws, and interpretation of the Constitution, do not turn nor depend upon vote by the people.
Mother health exception. It’s a law passed by the state legislature and signed by the Governor.
https://whnt.com/news/alabama-news/steve-marshall-files-to-dissolve-injunction-on-alabama-abortion-ban/
Thx, Eric.
I was a tad off on the upper end, it’s up to 99 years in prison. From the article I linked a few comments below:
“In 2019 the Alabama Legislature passed a law that would make performing an abortion at any stage of pregnancy a felony punishable by 10 to 99 years or life in prison for the provider with no exception made for rape or incest. The only exception would be when the mother’s health is at serious risk.”
This might be a problem….consider the drug, known as “the morning after pill” Is it an “abortofascient”, (a drug to cause or induce “abortion”). A quick googledeegoo shows it to be “emergency contraception” which is different than an abortofascient.
Issues to consider: fertilization can occur within minutes or days…slippery slope coming. I predict some regulatory changes in some of those states.
In KY, it sounds like that drug and prescriber would be breaking the law. The same in LA, only I think its the doctors they might be go after? MO, the article speaks to ‘performed or induced’, again the slippery slope of the morning after pill vs abortofascient? TX not clear (per the article) on the morning after pill but they are for the abortionist—facing life in prison, 100k fine and loss of license. Then the other 46 states…
But first they have to sort out the abortofascient issues. I know for a while there was a problem for women to obtain the morning after pill, based on just getting it from the pharmacist without a prescription. Not having to worry about that, I never paid too much attention to it. I thought they were one and the same meds, but they are not.
I hate to use them but:
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/3914/6012/8466/Difference_Between_the_Morning-After_Pill_and_the_Abortion_Pill.pdf
Big pharma won’t like this one!