Texas Dept of Public Safety (DPS) Official Lt. Chris Olivarez was asked why law enforcement retreated and waited an hour before reengaging the Uvalde elementary school shooter. In his response to CNN’s Wolf Blitzer, after an initial few minutes of obfuscation, eventually Lt. Olivarez explains the responding officers could have been shot, if they immediately rushed the gunman.
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I mistakenly thought the main lesson from the investigation of the Broward County, Florida, Parkland school shooting was never to wait. Unfortunately, it looks like Parkland and Uvalde will have a lot in common.
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Wow.
You die alone.
Child at Uvalde or elderly person dying of Co-Vid, you die alone.
The State will not allow you to die without their permission.
Why does the State not require multiple escape routes from all public spaces?
Instead, we get debates over the right to self-defence. I have no gun, I seek to run, and their is no route of escape. So leftists, where do I go?
From all building spaces there should be at least two routes of escape, and these routes should be blatantly marked. Never mind your gun control, leftists. Post my way out while your Statist police wend their way here.
So many fires and emergencies over the centuries where the exit routes were not marked. Start there, gun control fanatics.
wow. So simple a Truth.
Total architectural/engineering design failure -the windows ???
So you add millions for a school building build instead of having a single entry point.
What stops a murderer from waiting outside and concentrating fire at that single point?
It’s all semantics and avoiding what needs to be done and that is RETURN fire and kill the bastard. Society has left that responsibility to law enforcement, not themselves.
And the truth is law enforcement has NO duty to protect citizens only criminals in their custody.
Heroism is not assigned like a job description. One day you’re directing traffic and the next you’re on hero duty?
It’s not that simple.
Heroism is an innate quality that either reveals itself during an emergency ..or it doesn’t. Heroes are selfless and most people are *not* quick to make the ultimate sacrifice when an opportunity presents itself on the fly.
Nobody wakes up thinking, “Today I will die a hero.”
Military and police should rethink their line of work if they are not willing to lay down their lives for others. I can’t believe our military permitted a TREASONOUS COUP, first of all.. what the hell happened there?
When it come to heroism, I know too many who have done their part to maintain a decent society, and too many more who are lazy and unworthy of their sacrifice.
It would help if people didn’t spit on them and call them baby killers. It would help if *they* enjoyed the support of the public instead of parades and banners celebrating violent career felons.
There are plenty of “good ones” out there, TRYING to maintain law and order in a very sick world.
But I digress. Heroes transcend all of that, even when we don’t deserve them. That’s what makes them so special and unique.
When you are sworn in, you stand up and take an oath.
To do the job no matter what, no matter how bad it gets.
I took one, and many men have and remained faithful to it.
And if you can’t, get out.
No excuses.
Lt. Chris Olivarez, you’re a complete Piece of Shit! In addition, it’s pronounced yoo-VAL-dee everyday here in Texas. You must be an out of state transplant.
Unfortunately it will not be a surprise if he gets a promotion; he and those who waited should all resign in disgrace for allowing those children to be sitting targets with no one to come to their aid, or even try to distract the shooter.
Next time, pass out some shotguns to the parents.
Problem solved.
Bring your own!
Really. Man up out there. We’re in for a bumpy ride.
The old ranchers and farmers often had the two gun rack in their truck cab, often a hunting rifle and a shotgun.
One good rifle shot from the fence line and this was all over.
Never travel without my pistol in pocket of the door,
And a pump 12 with buckshot on the back seat.
And plenty of rounds.
and a key to the locked door.
The key is one of the rounds…
So it’s another kook they purposefully unleashed in order to get a mass shooting going, then whatever agenda like gun control or blame whitey or MAGA or in the past to keep us in the Forever Wars.
MK Ultra!
Hello, Falana. Long time, no see!
“Texas DPS Lt. Chris Olivarez Explains Law Enforcement Waited One Hour to Enter Uvalde School Because They Were Afraid of Being Shot”
✯translation✯
they were told to wait until the actual, fake/staged ‘crime scene’ had been properly set up… 😉
I don’t think it was fake, but it could have been purposely slowed for political benefit
Toward the end of the tape the DPS fellow says they did not know where the shooter was in the school and then says by waiting they were able to contain him in the classroom. If they didn’t know where he was in the school how did they know he was in a classroom?
Their tangle of lies will form a fine noose.
Word salad meant to confuse the general public. Too bad for them, there are still a few critical thinkers who are able to decipher their gibberish and a lot more of the same coming down the pike.
Same with several trolls here who want to encourage you to think the woman who rescued her children is a not being truthful or some kind of plant . As a parent you know exactly what classroom your elementary student is in, if you volunteer at the school you are very familiar with all the entrances and exits into and out of the school. Maybe by the grace of God one of the maintenance or lunch room doors were left open. Enabling her to run in, grab her children and get the heck out. As for a key, she most likely knocked lightly on the classroom door to get the teachers attention. Again. there are more than one entrance and exit into and out of a school. As for taking other kids with her it would not be allowed if she were not on file as a person who the school legally could release other children to. Maybe the teacher could have taken a chance to get her children out at the same time. Hard to say what you would do under this horrible and stressful situation. Until proven she has not been truthful she appears to me to be one heck of a mama grizzly.
I guess the use of smoke bombs or tear gas wasn’t give a thought.
Most active shooters commit suicide once confronted by law enforcement, particularly if they are being shot at (fight or flight). Incoming fire ends the fantasy.
The officers are cowards, should be arrested for gross dereliction of duty, prosecuted, and banned from law enforcement for life.
Hoping these Parents realize the potential they have for huge Lawsuits.
Or a Fire dept. ax to break down the door, for a whole hour they could have thought of all sorts of things, cowardice and stupidity cost precious Lives.
Damn right, I made short work of a many of them to get in where the fire was.
You know, if it were a private home where there are at most a handful of people and adults amongst them, I’d get it. But a school of 600 kids? The trained professionals need to get their butts inside and save the children. Even if it means a few get shot. Even if it means a few die. It was one man. Who can only shoot one gun at a time.
Our local PD carries full tac gear with big vests.
I’ve seen it come out for domestic situations, when I’m out walking.
God rest their little souls & comfort their families in their anguish.
Everybody else… harden your hearts & never forget that the only person that you can absolutely depend upon is you. Let the Cold Anger settle in & when called upon, deliver justice.
Soon, within the next couple, I’m betting there WILL be armed parents forcing their way in.
And that will be even a bigger clusterf@@@.
The cops won’t save our kids from being massacred,
that’s been shown over and over.
At this point, What would you do if you heard that the school your kid went to was under fire?
Im 5 minutes away, and I’d grab my Remmy and Glock, and burn rubber over there.
.
And go in guns blazing.
I educate my kids at home. They are protected, mind, body and soul. Their teacher and principal are on scene armed daily.
federal and state laws prohibit guns within a distance to the school
the 1990s “safe schools” and the gun free zones laws bite again…
In our ~1995 city the (liberal) elementary school principal used the plethora of these laws microscopically for parental intimidation rather than the most safe effective school for our children. I know because I wound up verbally confronted with her over an assault that I witnessed completely, intervened, and insistently turned over when picking up kids. She then pulled her tricks on me at least three times (maybe others I did not recognize) . Since I’m a fairly careful citizen, she had no traction – if the police were involved they would favor me against her little delinquent. The next day the other volunteer parents (e.g drs wives) applauded my wife walking in because apparently I was the first parent in years to face down this principal on the assaults.
One of her set ups was to ask if I has a gun out in the car (no), like many residents for dangerous animals that do occasionally bag people here. Apparently a jail time offense if you did…
Excellent post. Hope others will see.
Maybe I would take my kid out of commie schools that chase them with poison death shots, fill their heads with CRT, sexually mutate them and allow gun free zones to encourage mass murderers? So much for “burning rubber” after the fact.
We expect strangers to lay down their lives for our children, yet we aren’t willing to consider a lifestyle change to keep them safer ourselves? It’s pretty clear to me what needs to be done, that is, if we value our precious children.
Citizens employ both school officials and law enforcement. If you send your kids to a school without adequate security and law enforcement response times , at best, still aren’t fast enough to prevent this kind of tragedy then heightened security measures must be implemented. If school administrators/teachers resist then they must be replaced. If funds for security are inadequate supplemental funds need to be sourced or well trained and singularly focused volunteers found. City police must be trained to run to the sound of gunfire and have standby radio frequencies allowing communications with school security. It must begin with the parents. You must demand protection or be prepared to homeschooling your most cherished responsibility.
A gun, some ammo, an hour at the range is less than $1K per teacher.
The parents should yank their kids out of that school now. Everybody at the school will be out of a job. Parents can form a group and set up a school for their kids.
And stop paying school taxes. Kids today get a crappy education. We taxpayers BUY THAT EDUCATION, and we deserve to get a good product for our money.
We are at “peak government ” now, as Martin Armstrong says. Every public institution exists to SERVE ITSELF, NOT the public that pays for it. And the rot is spread everywhere.
Here’s a great article which describes this mechanism with excellent insight…
https://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2022/05/what-happens-when-complexity-unravels.html?m=1
With proper security.
the public school funding and debt traps.
Can you afford the time or money after taxes…
We might (next generation now) but many can’t or won’t.
Every teacher should have an invisible, silent alarm in a ring, belt, or pendant, that can be triggered in this kind of case, that reveals location info…Classroom and building. A ring would be ideal, it could be triggered without detection of the shooter.
This would be cheap to do. The school should have a lockdown/safety protocol that would secure kids in their classrooms, if evacuation isn’t possible.
Police active-shooter forces can be moved in silently. There should extensive training.
there Is training , lot’s of training. I’d be willing to bet the cops there have had tons of training all paid for by citizens. They probably played cops and bad guys in the same school that was shot up . the thing is you cant train away cowardice . As long ad the cops all go home safe at the end of the day right? gotta survive long enough to collect that nice fat state retirement ! and the cops wonder why nobody respects them .
Or every citizen?
An EMPIRE of lies from top to bottom!
It is no wonder the EMPIRE needs a Ministry of Truth, because it is getting progressively harder to coverup the truth with more lies.
Is there anyone who is brave enough to tell the truth? With so many lies, by so many, how does one know what the truth is?
Lies destroy trust and without trust, the people can only be controlled with fear and tyranny!
Bingo!
Haunting video shows widower of Texas teacher shot in massacre laying flowers at memorial just hours before he died ‘of broken heart,’ with couple’s orphaned children later attending mass to pray for their late parents
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10859315/Haunting-video-shows-widower-Texas-teacher-laying-flowers-memorial-just-hours-died.html
Those youngsters are Cristian, 23; Jose, 19; Lyliana, 16; and Alysandra, 12.
While they have Church and Community, they clearly can maintain themselves as a family unit on their own.
That’s a blessing.
Hero CBP cop rushed to Texas massacre school mid-haircut with borrowed shotgun to rescue 20 kids including his daughter, 8, after wife who teaches there texted him saying: ‘There’s an active shooter. Help’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10858885/Hero-CBP-cop-rushed-Texas-massacre-school-shotgun-teacher-wife-texted-Help.html
I thought after Columbine they changed the protocols that police are required to enter.
Also, movement is life.
Teach your kids, don’t hide, don’t cower,
jump out the windows and run in a zigzag pattern.
After Colombine, and Parkland, and, and, and . . . and here we are, still.
Because the GD unions have diverted the money, I bet.
40 billion will buy a lot of buzzer entry locks.
The kids are taught to be helpless victims. Sit down, be quiet, wear your mask, and obey.
They did.
I was thinking the same thing. All elementary schools have low windows. Why didn’t they crawl out of the windows and run?
We’re taught at work (very large regional grocery chain) to “Run, Hide, Fight” in an active shooter scenario. If they knew where the gunman was (and by the weird chase and shooting outside, LE knew it was a lone killer), why weren’t kids in other classrooms evacuated?
so really armed parents with badges did the heavy lift as point men …
this shows the multiple failure of public safety, “safety” laws and public schools
That sounds more realistic. But I have to wonder why that teacher waited for an hour and a half before calling her husband, who then acted swiftly and heroically along with fellow officers.
The timeline doesn’t quite add up with the one that has LEO’s eating donuts for an hour and a half outside before effecting a rescue.
Guns inside the building and it is known there are weapons in there, probably does not happen. Have a school police officer in every school. Will not happen.
I will tell you, teachers and parents are the biggest problem with school security. They prop open door that are meant to be locked at all times, the parent do not want a cop walking around with a gun around their kids. They all are relying on this, ‘ lock-in lock-out or lock down’ procedure, but none want to live by it!
I know, I worked in a large school district. After Sandy Hook, the district installed cameras with ‘a’ vid monitor, door lock card readers and policies of what to do in emergencies. But no armed officers nor any weapons, because teachers and parents opposed weapons in the buildings . I will tell you, I could not count how many times I walked down the hall where a exterior door was propped open with a rock wood or a playground toy keeping the door open. Teachers are the vision of laziness. Make something inconvenient and teacher won’t do it!
One solution, a cop in an office with video monitors of every hall and class room and all exterior areas of the outside of the school. The district i worked, the high schools had a police office, but was unmanned most the time, because the officer was required to patrolled and respond to calls.
Guns in schools will not happen in commie liberal areas and it will be a tell that it is a commie liberal area if they have one of these mass killing, even if the state is red or is acting like it is red!
Loren,
That’s how it is in my kid’s HS as well. Fort Knox near the Front Doors, yet the doors leading to the Athletic Field House were ALWAYS unlocked. Also, kids always opened doors for others after a text message or phone call.
They are all hyped up for security after an one of these types of events, then one two months or less and its back to normal behaviour.
I saw parents go to their child’s class room and knock on a window to get into the school, this happened all the time. They are suppose to go through the front door and report to the main office. In the olds, just a few decades ago this was all fine. But now we have to many crazy people walking the streets.
“Teachers are the vision of laziness.” Get your kids out of these cesspool schools.
You are so right Loren and you do make a good point.
We should not have to live in locked down prison’s while the mentally ill psycho’s walk around free and easy.
This 18 year old was not a nice person and I will bet a lot of people knew it for quite a while.
A normal, well adjusted 18 year old does not just up and shoot his grand ma in the face one day.
Just like so many of the other kid killers this boy will have had problems and run in’s with other people before.
These psychopaths use to be locked up, no matter how young, and we were allowed to walk free and without fear for our daily lives or the lives of our children.
We should not be talking about how to beef up security for schools or stores or parks but how to lock up these sickos much much sooner and much faster.
We should not have to live in prisons or walk around in fear of our lives or worry about having our guns confiscated.
The problem is these sick whackjobs and always has been.
Every high school I worked at had large counseling offices, with numerous counselors with degrees in child psychology. And they know the kids with mental problems or socializing issues from the time they enter elementary school. Believe me when I say they know everything about the kids that attend the school, they know about their family conditions and issues. They know.
But, as far as security of the school goes, an armed person on sight is the only way to insure the safety of the kids. If you are working in the school, as a human you will become attached to the kids and you would sacrifice your life for them, because you see the vulnerability and total innocence of the kids, that they need protection. It is natural to have a feeling of protection. A person with training, has some technology and a weapon can stop the whackjob before he enters the building.
As far as lock doors and the prison feel. Elementary schools the kids are in the classroom most of the time, they are outside for short periods of time. Depending on where you live, locking the doors and windows of your home is done as rotten to keep the bad guys out or at the least slow them down.
The real problem with our schools is a spiritual one and to fix that, The Christ is the only one to fix that!
Set up an apparel-worn alarm for each teacher, geo-located by classroom, maybe a ring where the activation alarm can be done secretly and silently on the teachers finger.
Our school doors do indeed remain locked and always need key card or buzz-in. My issue is with PE, fire drills, field day, lunch outside, etc. Those poor sweethearts are sitting ducks.
The anti-gum weaklings are also the pro-mask morons. The whiney minority must get told to sit down and shut up. Time to stand up for kids. THEY don’t have to send their kids if they are welcome to stuff it.
Crowdsource the funds to only get the cell phone data from the home he lived. From that you can find who went where. The one that goes to the school is his. Download that data and find out his travels for a month before that.
Worked for 2000 mules, not an interference, he is dead, no trial.
We are the ones, no response in riots etc. they have shown their true color yellow
It is corporation data. NO .gov you can’t foia corporate data. but you can buy it.
Over 600 kids attended the school and you did not see a single one flee the school.
Fight or Flight is the natural human reaction.
Is that not odd and peculiar?
The mother who allegedly went into the school miraculously found her two children and did not bring any other child with her.
Really?
Too many people figuring out this is all fake. Now they have to have another one tomorrow to take the focus off this one.
and so on and so on. Oh yeah, I am not suicidal.
You know who we haven’t heard from? The school district, to explain why the back/side door and the classroom door were both unlocked. In my Texas school district, all doors except the front vestibule entrance are locked at all times every day, except classroom doors are obviously open when switching periods. The school was supposedly already in lockdown due to the shooting at grandma’s when he entered both doors.
The doors were unlocked because it was a planned false flag operation. This was like Parkland. Although in a different venue, January 6th was a planned false flag op. These people are sick and loss of human life means nothing to them.
Cops afraid of guns, soldiers afraid to fight WTF! What next, firefighters who don’t like to be warm?
This is beyond lame and insulting and disrespectful for Olivarez to say.
Every law enforcement officer knows that when he gets dressed for his daily shift, he might be shot.
You don’t train and sign on to be a policeman if “you are are afraid you will be shot.”
While these cowardly cops need to face the music we must not let the focus off of the issue of this crackpot weirdo being out and about.
He and others like him should have been locked up, he should have been isolated from society for the safety of every one else because of his mental instablility.
These cops should be held responsible but so should a lot of others who let this crackpot walk free each and every day.
The thin blue line gets thinner and thinner. The red flags get bigger and bigger. Hold a minute while I calculate my pension.
Lol! You still think we’ll have pensions after their great financial reset?
Paid in meal worms
How will the local LEO face their community? …….. on the street, grocery store, church? How will they have the nerve to show their face? They should all be run out of town.
TX DPS guy is having a press conference now. Parents are giving him hell.
Oh, dear me, I flew more than 100 combat missions over Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia, but using their philosophy, I should have stayed back at base because I COULD HAVE BEEN SHOT DOWN!!! What an excuse.
This was a false flag. This does not mean that children/teachers didn’t die. It means that it was an orchestrated event by the deep state.
Dear Lord –
Please look after those who were murdered and injured in this satanic event.
Please look after the families of those who were murdered/injured and help them to heal and find peace.
Amen.
really it’s the systems designed to fail
incidents waiting to happen
Ex actly. DS needs to bury the baby formula shortage and win back flailing Hispanic vote.
Who is “Ayesha” who catches the murderer on grainy film the exact moment he breaches the building and immediately releases the video to fake news?
Why isn’t FIB leading the pressers as they always do in these investigations?
Where else has a govt official told press they’ll “circle back”?
What better way to divide minority communities against ea other than do it right at Fentanyl Floyd’s anniversary?
And, wtf did Mike’s husband mean this is a “quieter yet no less tragic one” in his disgusting and dismissive statement?
Everything the DS does is intentional and deliberate to manufacture crisis and steal state sovereignty to federalize the solution and hand the US over to WHO/UN/NATO for the NWO. Hello, Period!
They want citizens reacting emotionally so they can’t think rationally and see the gaping holes common sense is screaming something is wrong and this isn’t adding up.
God Bless and Comfort those who are suffering unthinkable pain and loss.
2 Corinthians 4:8-10
We are hard pressed on every side, but not crushed; perplexed, but not in despair; persecuted, but not abandoned; struck down, but not destroyed.
And strike down the perps involved in planning and execution.
Yes, it’s ok if the kids are shot but we can’t have any law enforcement people shot. I think they should all be shot. Let the parents who have lost children be the first to do the shooting.
I’ve been to Uvalde. It’s a remote spot on a map. I’d be very surprised if DPS were stationed there permanently such that they could arrive on the scene quickly to “take control.” Uvalde PD *was* on the scene. Who is covering for whom?
Yes, much about this story makes no sense. It reeks of a deep state operation.
“std” ass covering
jobs and pensions are at stake
Very small town, what took them so long to even show up?? Didn’t have to drive that far. Also, can someone figure out where this Kid got enough money to buy those guns, and all that ammo. He didn’t have a job, and the Grandparents surely couldn’t have afforded it.
He worked at Wendy’s.
Never in a million years would I have ever dreamed I would see something like this in Texas. Not even one LEO said “hell with it I am goin in”!! Wow just wow….
That is what I thought silas.
I am a grandmother of 12 and if I had been there along with a few of my fellow grandma’s no cop on the face of the earth would have kept me from “going in”.
And I have no grandchildren in that school, but I would have tried.
What kind of grown man can stand out side that school and hand cuff and taser panic stricken parents instead of chasing down a child killer inside that school.
And this law official says it is because “they are afraid they might get shot”.
Good Holy Grief.
Sickening stupidity & cowardice.
Oh, I’m so scared it’s an 18-year-old tranny. Wait I just peed myself. Medic, Medic.
He wasn’t a tranny. That was a lie.
Does anybody know yet?
This “LT” is a pile of nerves! He knows they messed up and little kids died. I wouldn’t want that on my conscious for the rest of my life. These people should be run outta Texas AFTER turning in their cowboy hats.
We were waiting until he ran out of bullets would be another lame excuse. Apparently the punk shooter left his backpack full of magazines by the door of the school as he finally rushed in to attack the teachers and kids.
“We could’a got shot!”
Gotta stay for those pensions, ya know.
We need to stop respecting law enforcement that fails to be respect the law and their oath of office, whether that means officers who enforce unconstitutional laws (such as with many of the COVID mandates), or ones who cower in fear behind their vehicles in fear of getting shot while a monster leisurely murders innocent children. These officers, and others like them, should be relieved of duty, named, shamed, and ridiculed publicly at every turn. They should be kicked out of private businesses, mocked, and called out for their failures. Since law enforcement has a monopoly on the use of force, they need to be held to a higher standard.
You’re a day late and a trillion dollars short. We already treat our cops like crap.
“I mistakenly thought the main lesson from the investigation of the Broward County, Florida, Parkland school shooting was never to wait.”
Actually, Sundance, that was the lesson learned from Columbine, well before Parkland. Following the Columbine incident, there was a nationwide effort to train patrol officers and other non-specialized forces on how to take immediate action in response to an active shooter. Police are trained on moving quickly and effectively to engage and neutralize the shooter (as we saw at Virginia Tech). Additionally, and I haven’t seen much said about this, schools were also participants in active shooter awareness and training. Schools were partnered with local police to more effectively control access to and respond to armed threats: keeping all potential entry doors locked except the main door; teaching school administrators they are the first responders to someone in school with a gun; training office staff to sound an audible inside/outside alarm to initiate an immediate lockdown of classrooms — teachers lock their doors and barricade; training teachers on how to signal police with status info, if possible; etc. Additionally, public health/mental health personnel are also trained in providing responses to active shooter events. I don’t know what the partnership arrangement is in Uvalde between the schools and law enforcement and even public health or what kind of training programs are in place. Where I live, near Tacoma WA, police (including local PDs, County deputies, State troopers, and military police), schools (public and private), and public health have worked very closely together on training and exercising active shooter scenarios.
After Parkland Texas passed a law requiring just such common sense training, instituted in 2020, it’s posted on this thread somewhere.
ALICE Training you can watch Videos on you tube..Basically it tells
the kids and teacher if you have no other choice fight back, with
whatever you have.. it may sound silly to THROW things at the shooter
but i guess the point being that it would distract them in the moment
long enough for the kids and teacher to jump him or run out.
it better than sitting there looking at him and just waiting for him
to shoot you.
They do the same in the school district here in my area of Colorado DoggyDaddy.
This is not something that is spoken about much, and maybe it should be, but teachers take training in exactly what you have just outlined.
We are a rural area and most teachers are use to shooting and hunting from a young age, both male and female.
They think a certain way and this helps when in a position of needing to protect their students or to think quickly and move fast.
This reminds me of Die Hard, where Hans Gruber can play the police for time because he knows their playbook.
What the police are doing here (and presumably in Parkland) is treating these incidents like armed, hostage situations. Delaying, de-escalating, and letting the hostage-taker stew while you set up your negotiation/infiltration plan and wait for SWAT is the Right Play in that situation.
In a white room scenario where you respond to a report of shots fired, treating an armed, hostage situation as if it were an active shooter incident could get more people killed. There’s a reason these playbooks exist. But these aren’t white room scenarios devoid of any context or larger zeitgeist; at this point if police are responding to reports of shots fired at a school I think it’s reasonable to expect them to treat it as a time-critical active shooter incident and respond accordingly..
You are the children’s back up. At what point is it a job or a psych op
Its for the children.
Whether its killing them after birth to giving them a dangeous shot to perfectly healthy kids to letting them fend for themselfs in the face of an active shooter, the adults have failed our children.
What an embarrasement, then what good are you. All of these cops need to be fired and tried.
The alleged murder bought ~ $3500 of weapons on a minimum wage Burger King salary 18 days before the shooting, became extremely proficient with said newly acquired weapons and WALKED into an elementary school and proceeded to murder children and a couple of teachers.
It doesn’t add up. The 3 letter agencies are lying to us through the MSM.
possibly drug money?
This certainly appears to be a false flag where the government sacrificed these children and teachers’ lives to elicit the peoples’ rage to help the Government get the public’s support to install restrictive gun control. Just like in Parkland and Sandy Hook, the FBI was involved in standing down, and they utilize children or young adults that have psychiatric conditions to get them to do their dirty work for them or provide cover for their own murderous spree. It is an ultimate MK Ultra technique, developed by the CIA to install these murderous thoughts in these susceptible young adult minds and even sometimes provide the weapons to do it. I also remember how many students in either Parkland or Sandy Hook swore they saw an armed man with protective gear on that was not the student shooter!
I don’t know about your location but in central Florida the local fast food joints pay $15/hour, not minimum wage.
However the short time between purchase and some capability with the weapons is a question for sure.
I can’t tell you how reassuring it is to know that if a crazed gunman enters my grandkids’ school, cowardly police officers will show up and put up yellow caution tape around the perimeter.
I think Lt Chris Olivarez is a Texas Ranger. The Rangers are part of the DPS. They investigate police misconduct and officer involved shootings. They are the cops who investigate the cops.
The DPS has an office in Uvalde. That’s where you go for your drivers license. It looks like the Texas Rangers Company D have a presence at that office.
The address is 2901 East Main Street. Robb elementary is at 715 Old Carrizo Rd. Mapquest says the trip is 3.6 miles or 8 minutes.
Texas Rangers are not uniformed.
Okay, thanks. I thought they were.
Q: Do they wear the hats on work days, or are the hats ceremonial only?
They do like their hats.
Here is another story that paints a different picture.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10858885/Hero-CBP-cop-rushed-Texas-massacre-school-shotgun-teacher-wife-texted-Help.html
Nice story.
Dear psychopaths that run the Psychological Operations Department,
You failed, again.
The American People have more common sense than any of you.
If you wish to not rot in hell, resign now, beg God for forgiveness and get a real job.
Save your soul. Do the right thing. I know it’s a good job with lots of benefits, says the devil….
Is your eternal soul worth it?
Whatever happened to laying down your life for others? Especially when you’re someone who has taken an oath to lay down your life for others. I can’t imagine how those parents who were tackled etc. feel in the aftermath. It’s hard to even sort through all the feelings – not only about those poor children and all those terrorized, but feelings toward these cold hearted people who are given authority they should not have. God help us all.
Alright, by my count, that’s 3 different stories told by LEO.
Truth is in short supply here.
The CYA is strong with this one.
In all fairness, there should be nothing said until all the facts are known. Too much speculation to fill the “breaking news” need.
The “breaking news” ended once the suspect was shot and killed by LE. Only absolute facts should be being presented.
Couldn’t agree more. Spot on.
By MSM?
Absolutely.
Generally speaking?
Slippery slope.
The Misinformation Nazis were recently claiming a need for controlling the flow of “truthful” information– particularly in times of crisis, etc.
Never give them an inch!
People must learn to discern fact from speculation/fiction.
Indeed. And on the basis of all this *he said, she said*, it’s guaranteed that random law enforcement everywhere are going to endure another rash of fatal ambushes and other violence. Guaranteed. The media lies, serially. About everything and everyone. Kyle Rittenhouse, George Zimmerman, Russian collusion, Nazis are fine people…the list is endless…
They should be arrested and charged with failure to act and cowardice.
Yes, in Texas none of this makes any sense & yet I was attacked profusely for previous posts.
Slightly wounded BP agent who shot the punk perp. Real life hero.
Other local LEOs complained that Sheriff Andy only let them have one bullet each.
The heat friction from the bullet would have frayed that nylon cap to crisp, burnt ends.
That is a cloth baseball cap, not nylon.
Supposed head wound…
It brings to mind the famous exhortation of GySgt Dan Daly: “Come on, you sons of bitches, do you want to live forever?”
If you aren’t shooting your way into that school, you’d better be dead.
So a bunch of kids died while these cowards huddled in conferences outside the school? Then one Border Patrol office took responsibility himself to end it? And no one followed him in? Fire the lot of them!
I’m former LEO and this flies in the face of what we were taught and I mistakenly thought was national protocol for active shooters: once you get at least two officers on scene, you go in, period. This was created way back after Columbine, as the previous protocol was to create a perimeter and wait for SWAT. Obviously rational minds saw that was stupid and changed it. We did active shooter training and were told and taught to either take out the threat directly or keep them busy until the big guns showed up (i.e. tactical teams).
I’m in FL and most of us have done this. Unfortunately, but not surprisingly of Democrat Broward county, not every department is run correctly.
Does Suspicious Cat think someone ordered the police to stand down? When did the FBI become involved? The Mayor of this town was on Tucker tonight & it sounds like even he is not being given answers for the things we are all asking. Do you smell federal intervention yet? Even if orders were given, what kind of man obeys these kinds of orders and still does nothing while listening to helpless little kids being shot by a psycho-killer for an hour? But you’re willing to handcuff a parent who tries to go in and save their child? (One mom was successful and rescued both her kids)
How do you collect a paycheck for that or look at yourself in the mirror? We have become a soulless society.
None of them are men. That’s the crisis we face in America…real men are a dying breed thanks to feminazi and culture rot. This all has to come to a head and I hope sooner rather than later.
The great tragedy of the Second Amendment is that it has been turned into yet another potent soundbite for Nextdayism, just like the media that arranges itself into two bickering streams of pro and anti. Canned inertia and tired theater.
You can shoot up my kids today (with bullets or Operation Warp Speed kill-shots) and I’ll continue to keep my guns in Cold Anger storage. But should you cross my final red line X I’m coming for you guns ablazing.
Ah, there is no red line if children aren’t red line enough.
Given all that has been perpetrated against Americans, the vaunted civilian militia would have sprung to action by now if wasn’t just a talking point or a mass gun collection club. It hasn’t and it wont. Get over it. Americans, armed or otherwise, aren’t going to do sh*t and everybody knows it.
And don’t parse/obfuscate the issue by zeroing in on the elite, law enforcement or the regular guy on the street.
Frankly does a people (in any of its subsets) that manages to stand by while its 10 year olds are being shot deserve the right to defend itself? Defend itself for what transcending purpose pray tell? To prolong the well-being of a society that stands by while its 10-year-olds are being shot? In any aggregate sense, are there sufficient qualities worthy enough of preserving anymore? I wonder.
“Ah, there is no red line if children aren’t red line enough”
AMEN
When will we say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH?
January 6th?
It’s what they want you to say, feel, guilt, self loathing. Just don’t!
You should feel extreme anger, enough to protect your kids to the death from people who wish them harm. If not for them, for your own sanity.
Who takes our place once we resign! Liberal nutbags? We just need to stand up not sit down. It’s our kids they want, they state it over and over.
Stop blaming women for the things men do and become. The men are adults who can make their own decisions.
Who’s blaming women? I happen to absolutely love women. Don’t confuse the two….
The change happens at an early age, when they are boys. Their heads are filled with poison and exposed to lies from very early on. This prevents a boy from growing into a man. Yes, men are free to choose and make their own decisions. There are too many boys who don’t make it there though. That’s my point.
also many many many boys are being raised by women with no father in the home, due to divorce or no marriage..
Amen
BINGO!
Actually women are complicit in this too. I am a woman of a certain age and I remember the so-called “feminist” movement and thought at the time – how dumb can these women be? They don’t want the respect and protection of a strong man? No they can do it themselves along with everything else. They even took on the responsibility for contraception and recused the men of any obligation whatsoever. So of course they lost the respect of the men. This will not be a popular comment but I believe women have usurped the place of men. Look at all the women as police chiefs (men reporting to women bosses). After emasculating the men we now want them to stand up.
Bottled water has some sort of pseudo estrogen in it leeched from the plastic bottles. It is sapping our Nation’s “precious bodily fluids”..
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090326100714.htm
Whiskey replaces that lost ingredients. Why do you think the military passes it out like water?
Their pensions are more important than upholding the Constitution or the lives of the innocent. That said, the school was wide open for big problems.
“MEN WITHOUT CHESTS”
by C.S. Lewis
“…Without “Chests” we are unable to have confidence that we can grasp objective reality and objective truth.
The result of such chest-less education, as Lewis warns, is a dystopian future. “We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise,” says Lewis. “We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst.”
See:
https://blog.acton.org/archives/87047-c-s-lewis-on-men-without-chests-and-what-that-means.html
I believe those officers who stood outside and did nothing while the children screamed and parents begged them to do something are going to live their own personal hell on earth for the remainder of their days on it. They will never be able to erase the memory of them doing nothing to help save those innocent children. They will have nightmares and some may even decide suicide is the way out.
“..and some may even decide suicide is the way out.” Well that would be a convenient way to tidy up the loose ends, now wouldn’t it?
They already created quite a narrative to “suicide” all the people who saw something Deep State doesn’t want them to share. Remember those witnesses who mysteriously died after the Vegas massacre?
Remember the suicides of i think it was 4 DC Police after Jan 6th. They were so terrified that they got PTSD and killed themselves so shortly afterwards? What?
The Las Vegas massacre was cover for the attempted assassination of Prince someone or other. This Arab family owned the top 4 or so floors of the hotel and it was named a different hotel. Well they had brought him there, but something got messed up. I don’t have the patience to go find the details.
I am a grandparent now of 3 very young boys, and I am still traumatized by the injections and what kind of NO EVIDENCE that they are safe for pregnant women. I am able to sleep at night knowing that it is possible that many of our loved ones who took it and are OK, got saline.
It all started with Waco on my daughters second birthday…and Oklahoma City bombing….those events were the beginning of the end of trust for many people. They have and will continue to sacrifice our children for whatever purpose they deem necessary.
And the murdered teacher’s husband died of a heart attack two days after the shooting..do you think she might have sent him a text and told him what was really going on in the classroom?? Just a thought..very sad.
Kinda like the Las Vegas incident…FBI were on-site before anyone could say “BOO”…Suspicious Cat is well…Suspicious.!!!!
No One waits an hour before going in, esp. if they have their tactical gear on!!!
There is more to the Vegas shooting than the media narrative. That shooter wasn’t there to shoot people but did to bring heat off himself for the failed assassination attempt on the SA prince.
Or unless something else was going on inside the school they didn’t want the parents to see… almost sounds like a op was going on
Yes. How did that mom get in? Was a back door unlocked? Why did police not try another way in?
In a lockdown, teachers lock classroom doors. How did that mom get those kids?
Too many questions.
Good questions.
I shutter to think we may live in a world with such cynicism. We as citizens should be able to trust our leaders. They claim to dislike conspiracy theories then do everything in their power to help create them by telling half truths or out right lies.
It would seem to me they can’t help but to lie even when it’s in their best interests to tell the truth. It says a lot about how they feel about their constituents.
The kind of man that says “I need to put food on the table” and “pay my mortgage”. So, do you still have your “Support the Blue” flag? For the past 2 years (ever since illegitimate regime took over and slightly prior to it), I no longer believe that majority of the police in United States are the good guys and we only have a few rotten apples here and there. No more. They are ALL complicit in what is going on and in a rapid erosions of our Constitutional rights.
When you dive deeper, you will realize that this type of excuse was used before. Yeah, I realize that the comparison gets tiresome but is as true today as it was 80 years ago: Nazi Germany.
The central debate about the police that’s gripping society (and the important subject of our focus) is whether we’re for or against proper police action that is carried out legitimately, within the law, and for the betterment of society. That’s all! It’s a philosophical debate i.e., to be or not to be.
BLM believes ‘not to be,’ we believe ‘to be!’ I presume you do also. And corruption? See above!
I could not believe the response of this mayor. If I were mayor I’d have been knocking some heads together and demanding answers. It appeared he was not interested or brave enough to get them. I think Tucker was taken aback by this attitude too.
Wow. The woman who ran in to save her children has a bigger set than all those cops that waited outside combined.
Correct
Incorrect. Do you seriously believe that a woman went into the school, found her two children (assuming she knew what classrooms they were in) and didn’t even attempt to rescue any other child?
Does that make any sense, Bruce?
Many parents know what classroom their children are in!
Guarantee , wherever the children were, there was a teacher, teacher’s aide or both present who would NOT let a parent take any other students out of the classroom. We will undoubtedly find out if there was a heroic mom.
It’s an elementary school. The kids are generally in the same classroom all day except for a few times like lunch, music, art and such. Of course the parent knows where their kids are, and they for sure know the entire layout of the school. However, I don’t know how this parent had a key for an outside door. I’d have to think someone from the inside opened the door. Schools don’t give out keys to parents, only to employees, generally. This is the odd part of the story for me.
I can also understand why no other kid left with this woman. They would have been too afraid to leave the teacher, unless they knew this parent really really well. These are little kids, 7,8,9 or so year old kids. Shame the teacher didn’t follow the parent and get the entire class out.
Teachers are trained to stay in the classroom with door locked until given the evacuation order (because shooter may be in hallway or approaching).
The doors to classroom would be locked, lights out, kids and teacher hiding, so that is a big question-
Makes perfect sense, Troll. Do you seriously believe she’d leave her kids there while rounding up others?
Huh? No one said she’d leave her kids. And 5 people “liked” your comment. People are going off the rails.
Suppose a law enforcement agency wanted to have a training exercise
that was so realistic, that onlookers couldn’t tell that it was merely an
exercise and not an actual event. Suppose they could pre-surround the
staging area with layers of plainclothes personnel to keep well-intentioned
private citizens from inadvertently interfering. If you were in a
public place and a man with an AR-15 or AK-47 type rifle entered and
began shooting, would you hang around to see whether the rifle had a
blank adapter attached to the end of the barrel? Would you watch carefully to
see that spent cases were actually being ejected from the rifle–to be
certain it wasn’t a movie prop like may be used for training or would
you simply run for your life? If you saw a total stranger lying on the
floor near the “gunman”, would you roll that person over to examine their
wounds and try to treat them, or run away and call for help when you
got to safety outside? Suppose what you thought was blood seeping
through their clothing was an exploding dye pack like used in action
movies? What if the agency in question didn’t even tell the
management of the public venue that they were having the training
exercise? Suppose they never even told the media? Suppose you saw the
alleged “relatives’ of some of those “killed” during the training exercise on
TV news and they were crying, yet their eyes had no tears in them?
Suppose the agency reported the “event” as if it were real…
Sounds like Sandy Hook…
Given the peril our nation faces stemming from presumed acts of violence which occur at politically important junctures, every concerned citizen, officeholder etc should make a copy of your comment, and place it in an envelope at the back of their top drawer, and review repeatedly during the coming months and years.
Do you have kids??
it makes perfect sense if you are a parent that is serious about your children.
Yes, to a woman full of adrenaline and panic it’s very plausible.
Makes perfect sense.
Explain otherwise and show your work.
That’s a nice story, but is it true?
She supposedly ran in and found her two children.
Why didn’t she rescue other children too?
I find it unnatural for a mother to run into a building, find her children and simply ignore all of the other kids.
Were her children not surrounded with other kids?
This story is complete garbage. No mother would rescue her kids and leave all of the other kids.
Women with children do not leave other kids behind. Sorry, this story being fed is utter garbage. You are being told that this “heroic woman” went into the school, found her 2 children (out of over 600) and ignored every other child.
That is not natural, that is not plausible, and that is not real.
You’re way out of bounds there zoomerica? Tuned in parents actually DO know exactly what classroom their kids are in and their teachers’ names. In this case the teachers likely wouldn’t let the other kids go because they were told to shelter in place.
F–k off, TROLL
No need for that kind of language. She has her own opinion as do we all about what’s going on. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
By the end of the year any elementary school parent will have been to their kids classroom at least a half dozen times, or more if they were a “room mother”.
She probably knew where her children were and fixated on them full of adrenaline. It’s perfectly plausible. She wasn’t trying to be a hero she was grabbing her kids and using the flight response.
Seriously, this is what you hyper-focus on?
The story isn’t about this lady rescuing her children.
Good grief!
I have to disagree!
Most mothers and children, now have mobile phones!
Please consider that concept of the mother contacting her own children and organising a rendezvous.
I find your self enhancing comment almost – well, contrived!
Have a nice day now!
She drove 40 miles to the school, was handcuffed, released, scaled the fence and entered the building, found her 2 kids and exited the building. I was teaching at a HS/Middle School on 9/11..the rumor was that there was a plane heading to Pittsburgh..it was utter chaos, yes, parents were entering the school to get their kids..to my knowledge they never made it past the first floor…after that the parents insisted that kids be allowed to carry cell phones in the classrooms.
A lot of aspects of this story are odd. Why is there no backstory about this shooter. He lived in town of 16,000 people, not a vacuum. He had neighbors, classmates, friends, enemies, teachers that remember him, relatives. Nobody is talking, or their comments are being suppressed, or…
Oh there is info on this freak…it just isn’t being shared. Why? He was either a cross dresser or trans wannabe. Search and you’ll find the pics.
Jim Stone’s site had pics of the shooter in drag, right from his own IG account. Of course that is a politically protected class so mainstram media will not show it.
Does anyone in his/her right mind think that a parent in that life threatening situation would not administer a serious punch in the face to anyone attempting to block her from removing her children from danger?
And, as far as other children, while altruistic, it would have been of tertiary concern to almost any parent in that situation with the possibility of that in doing so her children could be killed.
Ask the question the other way around. What other kids would go with an unknown adult over the likely objections of the teacher? Remember these are 7,8,9 yo kids.
Noooo, that woman showed up after the shooting and is trying to make herself a victim when all she did was cause problems at the scene. If she wanted to be a real hero, then she should have showed up at the school an hour earlier and confronted the gunman herself. Now that would have been heroic. Sadly a lot of media attention was taken off the real victims and given to her and her BS story.
A serious question or two –
Q1. what was wrong with her actions ?
Q2. Are you some sort of 5th columnist?
Agree. Good questions.
Yes, she is. Know here as Maggie Poo.
Grow up and maybe try to act like an adult.
Parent were frantic and wanted to grab their children, thats perfectly understandable, but she didn’t know if there were other shooters or what the police were doing inside that building at the time and by rushing in to that school, she could have got herself, her kids or others killed. You can’t just do that. By the way, there is no need to be ignorant to someone because you disagree with their opinion.
You don’t get it! It did matter how many shooters or anything else. She was willing to take the risk of being killed for the chance to possibly save HER children’s life, getting them out of a dangerous and traumatizing event and back to her. She was hyper focused on the only thing that mean’t anything to her in that moment – her kids. Hero Mom. The leos were effin cowards!!!!
I get it, I would think every parent there wanted to do the same.
Your are full of it.
Please read before you troll.https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/05/27/report-police-got-own-kids-out-of-school-while-subduing-other-uvalde-parents-n570630
Stop. That is one more unvalidated *report*. NO ONE knows what happened, because the *news* is nothing but hearsay, he-said-she-said incoherence. All reports rather oddly showcasing two critical pieces of leftist dogma…guns bad, cops bad. In the meantime, all this unhinged grasping, in spite of years of outright fallacious, slanderous, and *misinformation* by the media is going to get more cops killed. Guaranteed. Ambushes and other savagery on random cops. Judging by the tone of most of the comments here today, I sense that most people are fine with that. Utterly sickening to witness self-appointed arbiters of rational common sense go off on unhinged attacks.
You’re right on point. I’m so disappointed after all the times the media has maligned police, and it later was disproven, that my fellow Treepers are gobbling up the media narrative now.
What happened to wait 72 hours before believing anything the media is putting out?
I personally know people in Uvalde and their versions do not match the media version.
Please make sure you’re posting facts before you troll Johnny.
totally disagree Maggiemoo. I have 3 children and I would have done the same.
Well, women DO have balls. They’re just tucked away inside rather than hanging outside.