Appearing on Stage in Vancouver earlier today with the head of TED Chris Anderson, Elon Musk discusses why he has made a financial bid to purchase the social media platform Twitter. The video is prompted to 11:40 when Musk takes the stage, the first part of the conversation surrounds the Twitter announcement that had made global headlines only a few hours earlier. WATCH:
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Free speech advocates used to be the norm. Now they are big news.
Right?
Growing up, even Middle School History classes threw shade at Germany and other countries for not having Freedom of Speech.
And the whole Dem Party and all their voters have turned rabidly ANTI Free Speech.
It’s really something to behold.
It’s fundamentally unconstitutional. The Left abhors our Founding Document
The 60s and 70s corrupted many who are now in office and the rise of radicals and infiltrated the 4th branch and our military and their oath means absolutely nothing.
I remember the anarchists as already well in place, but they gained fanatical Socialist protection during 60’s, enabling them to be overtly anti-Constitutional.
Through violence, student groups led by professional organizers, Society continued to decline. Morality, principles & love of Country, became victims of ridicule.
This persists today, bolstered by the Socialist gains in power, the Justice system & tyrannical theft of elections.
good synopsis, Red
you too, Sanjac
Redblooded, “Overtly anti-Constitutional” is a perfect description!
The decay seen in the Joebama Junta is definitely a product of the 60’s/70’s. The 4th branch of government is infiltrated with those who despise this country as founded. When obama said ” we are days/months away from fundamentally transforming the US”, he wasn’t kidding.
Add in another morally bankrupt supreme court justice and what do we have?
Our liberties, freedoms and protections are disappearing before our eyes and there are few elected representatives fighting.
Yes because they cannot debate or argue at all. About anything.
Also never-Trump Republicans. There’s something behind it, and it is reaaaaallly big.
Predates “Trump” by MANY decades. The progress “the Left” has made, could NEVER have occurred without the active cooperation and enabling of the Republican party, in presenting themselves (falsley) as an opposition party, while actually facillitating and covering for the Leftists, and by occupying and vigorously defending that space against any challengers.
“How long?”
A Republican Candidate, despite the party hierarchy, by campaigning on policy positions in direct opposition TO the party hierarchy, recieved the Republican party nomination, after a contentious convention.
The RNC colluded with the I/C, bugged the candidate, leaked the info to the msm, in order to torpedo his campaign.
PDJT? No, Barry Goldwater, in 1964.
THATS how long there has been an abusive relationship between the RNC/GOPe, and the base.
No, they’ll still tell you they’re pro-free speech
… so long as it’s THEIR speech (the speech that they believe in)
If only you’d mouth THEIR speech, they’d be all for it
An alternate view?
Not so much …
One thing Democrats are famous for is that they self-anoint themselves with all the high-minded values
“WE’RE the compassionate ones”
“WE’RE the open-minded ones”
“When they go low, we go high”
yada yada yada
Not for a nano-second would they admit they’re anti-free speech
Oh, and many of the middle aged White childless dog mommies will literally scream at you that they are CHHHHHREEEESHHHHTIAN and you are not because they can conjure sobs and tears for the Ukie-puke NAZIs and you wish them the fate justly reserved for all NAZIs.
Self-righteous doesn’t begin to cut it. These people are dangerous.
you nailed it, Rumaggi
shows you how shallow their principles are
if the ‘war’ is giving their side something they want …
… then there’s no ‘stop the war’ movement
funny, that
in the Ukraine case, the ‘something they want’ has been a corruption and kickback playground that’s benefitted their side enormously for a decade or more …
… Senator’s sons and family members get placed in no-show jobs and board memberships paying 100s k per year (ex: Hunter Biden on the board of energy company Burisma when he has no expertise in energy)
so – anti-war movement?
nah
or – to quote LL Cool J
“Excuse me … I don’t think so”
All about “sticking it to the man” now that “they” are the man and they do not want to be subjected to their own hooey.
…no draft…change that and we will see dems want the war stopped.
Elon is talking and doing what he says he’s going to do. And the world is paying attention.
God Bless Him…. I was pretty confident he was a good dude. Godspeed Elon your assistance is favored. But non of us that read this site are helpless. We should be ready to buy Twitter as well 😉
What?
Buy a couple of shares, and give Elon your voting proxy for Twitter .
Not to be an Eyore:
On shares outstanding, does the company buy or vote those shares?
My thoughts are, again, suspicious about big business and big tech–they have a plan to counter that tactic.
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/TWTR/key-statistics/
Currently, there are 800 million + shares outstanding or available if I read other info correctly and twitter has 37Billion shares again if I read things correctly. Insider/employees etc own about 12% of and not sure if its all shares or shares currently owned.
It would take an awful lot of us to do that…but could be done. There are trillions at stake.
This is so strange, to me. You and Luke might be two of the nicest people one could know, but buying stock based on speculation from strangers on an internet thread is a no-go. Besides, the sudden bandwagon jumping sets off red flags.
Additionally, I’ve never had a Twit account (nor FB, etc.) and see social media as more harmful to our culture than helpful. Not something in which I’d want to invest.
Yep, I plan to buy about 4 shares and give Musk my voting proxy.
How will that help him? Just curious….maybe I’ll do the same.
Here’s his letter today to twit:
SEC link:
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/0001418091/000110465922045641/tm2212748d1_sc13da.htm
Sorry, the letter was written yesterday.
Still today here, so no problem.
It’s always “today” until you go to bed and wake up tomorrow, is what we night owls say.
😁😂🤣
As someone who is criminally blunt myself, I can only be in awe of his communication style.
Bluntness until less than 10 years ago was always something respected.
To quote a song “All I Want” from the 1990’s from the band Wet Sprokets, “Truth is not kind, and you say neighter am I.”
Unfortunately we now have a Generation accustomed to demanding a comforting lie instead of a harsh truth. I fear because of that.. we may be drawn into a World War… I hope not!
In my experience, all age groups respect bluntness far more when they’re the ones being blunt, than when someone is being blunt to them.
Toad the wet sprocket. 👍
@WTLT01, thanks for catching my accidental omission!
BTW, I have always loved that song!
Who knew that John Galt would come from South Africa?
Elon Galt Musk.
John Galt is a character in Ayn Rand’s novel Atlas Shrugged (1957). Great movie series.
The best of the best are saved from a world in decay.
That response is so accurate.
The X will not easily forfeit their most powerful weapon, the media.
Read Sundance from earlier today about Musk/Twitter.
Along the lines of what you wrote.
Near unlimited financial wealth, working in the best interest of free speech. Sounds like it should be opposite ends of the same ruler, or is it?
Power driven by a concern for humanity. Things that are too good to be true must be examined carefully.
He is all for sustainable energy, a true believer and the sooner the better says he. So, Musk gives the WEF that and yet wants to turn Twitter honest, which the powers that be must hate. Truth drives him.
Does Elon know , he must know, that the Intel agencies are using Twitter.
But he’s the new savior. I’d be more inclined to join his flock if he weren’t so constantly critical of President Trump.
They hook us with the ‘concern for humanity’.
Keyword from the TED, “Open Source the Algorithm”.
Doing so reveals the “man behind the curtain”. By having the deal fall flat, Musk continues to shine a light on how crooked Twitter is.
This went from a Lose-Lose for Twitter, to Epic Rout Lose-Lose.
Twitter is now forever label consciously and unconsciously as NOT A FREE SPEECH PLATFORM to the whole World!
Elon Musk, is not in a position to lose money, no matter what the board does. He must be seeing something far better in store for twitter. If the company takes the right path.
As Musk said, he doesn’t care about the Money. So for him there is no lose.
However for the company Twitter and its entrenched SJW mentality, it’s a either Hiroshima Lose or Salting the Earth of Carthage Lose.
Can you explain, please, in terms my point and click only, limited tech abilitied mind would understand, what “Open source the algorithm” ?
The rules that Twitter uses would need to be public.
They no doubt tie it to “intellectual property” and embed the ‘secret’ tech use into their business plans?
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An algorithm sets out triggers that cause an action. E.g. perhaps it’s a “bad word” or phrase. Someone uses the bad word, and their tweet automatically gets censored, or, e.g. re a search engine, their website is downgraded in the results. If it’s a secret algorithm they don’t know why. “Open source” would make it clear, anyone could see what actions/words trigger other actions (and what actions.)
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@All Too Much, It’s kind of two parts… Open Source, such as open source software means you can see the Programming Code.
The analogy is you can see the Source Code for Ubuntu Linux Operating System, but you can’t for Microsoft Windows 11.
And the Algorithm refers to the mechanism and criteria that controls how the software can target people say to be Shadow Banned, and what words or combination of word get the special attention of the Twitter Moderators.
No marxist or WEF thumbs on trending flows of information. Leftists allowed to talk to everyone interested. Rightists allowed to talk to everyone interested. No shadowbanning. Publishing the actual rules.
The first known example of that is Hammurabi’s code. If you don’t publish the actual rules, you can lie about what they are and change them on a case by case basis to favor the interests of particular participants. That is the current situation.
Musk threatens to change that.
Musk’s answer to the second question, how to comply with the free speech of each country, incitement to violence for example, compared to speech with is legal, was interesting
How is the legal/illegal speech filtering carried out? Algorithm? People? And how do they determine…
You could see him searching deep inside his amazing brain for an answer.
That would be easy. Twitter is a USA based service and USA rules apply. Our Constitution guarantees our God-given right to free speech. Other countries don’t like it? Tough. Don’t use Twitter.
This situation all reads like two factions of the Deep State vying over Twitter, one of the primary propaganda channels in social media. The CIA through its globalist connections almost certainly “controls” Twitter and lets the Left co-opt it for their own purposes.
I find it quite interesting Musk makes a play for Twitter right as Trump’s Truth Social is trying to get off the ground.
Trillions at stake.
I do not believe in coincidence, esp. where big businessmen are concerned. This, whatever they/Musk is trying to do, has been well researched…see my post somewhere in this thread, on ‘statistics’.
Business is in business to make money. I believe this was not an impulse “Gee I think I’ll get on Twit board or buy the company” type tactic. Maybe floating a long range idea and plan.
…“I find it quite interesting Musk makes a play for Twitter right as Trump’s Truth Social is trying to get off the ground”…
Thank you. I feel the same way. I don’t trust Musk at all.
He might be a great guy and he might be brilliant, but the fact remains that neither of his companies, nor the billions earned from them, would have been possible without massive massive subsidies from we the taxpayers.
I honestly believe this has something to do with President Trumps media company launch.
Not in a good way, either
He says a good sign that free speech is available is:
‘If someone you don’t like…
is allowed to say something you don’t like’
Yes, he danced around a little first, but finally came down at essentiallythe same place as the Founders.
Free speech isn’t to protect speech we like and agree with, its to protect speech we abhor. Because only by “allowing” such speech, are we assured that ALL speech is heard.
And SOMETIMES we most NEED to hear, what we least WANT to hear.
IMHO, what we are seeing from the Brandons and WEF’ers, is what happens when there is group think, a “bubble”, and absolute banishment for any who offer dissenting opinions.
It is one of several shortcomings, which guarantees their downfall.
And, because OF it, they will never see it coming, right up until they go splat.
That meme is money.
Twit acc’t. claims to be a “community of Mental Health Professionals” w/ over 200K followers. haha.
Somebody’s freaking out- Bigly.
If Twitter doesn’t “fall” into Elon’s hands … America will fall
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‘a community of Mental Health Professionals.”
That could be… one schizophrenic therapist? 🙂
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“Our name is Legion, for we are many”
haha. True!
Multiple Personality type.
with multiple personalities!
So dramatic 🤣🤣🤣
Another thing worth noting from the TED at around 23:30, Musk wants to eliminate Spam/Scam Bots and Bot Armies that are used to influence people.
This means trending tweets are organic and not due to manipulation either politically or financial reasons.
These social media companies are using fraudulent bots and bot armies to make the leftist celebs seem more popular than they are. They are using them to then sway public opionion and alter elections. It is outright Criminal Fraud on many accounts…. when you also take into account the celebs are being paid for posting ads ( millions of dollars) based upon the fake follower counts which sometimes add up to millions, if not hundreds of millions of fake bot followers.
The little leftist commies currently acting as puppets might have to get a real job
They best learn to code. It turns out “speech police” isn’t a sustainable career
Max Boot makes John McCain look like a peacenik and wants to invade more countries than Adolf Hitler…
… with the license to: shoot to kill
Elon Musk
@elonmusk
· 6h
Replying to @cameron
If the current Twitter board takes actions contrary to shareholder interests, they would be breaching their fiduciary duty.
The liability they would thereby assume would be titanic in scale.
He chose his metaphor purposefully and well.
And now that Mr Musk is a shareholder he can sue them.
Anyone know if Trump and Musk have ever met or made a deal ?
I’d like to think they have as the whole “free speech” manipulation everything spy came to a head under Trump .
It’s almost as if Heaven is conspiring here.
I love it when that happens.
As I recall Musk pulled out of one of Trump’s initiatives in protest for I can’t remember what.
They have met
Interesting, would’ve liked to have been a fly on the wall !
Trump succeeded because he wasn’t/isn’t beholden to anyone. Musk will be successful (continue to be successful) because he isn’t beholden to anyone. This must drive the anti-Constitutionalist Deep Staters absolutely apoplectic. Why … if I didn’t know better … I’d predict The Deep State would attempt to destroy Musk. Misuse the power of The State to crush this FREE thinker.
He stated, quite correctly that MANY have gotten to prototype and limited production in car manufacturing, and then failed, the last success being Chrystler, in the 1920’s.
He’s absolutely correct, he didn’t say one of the main impediments is the Big 3 have used their influence with banks, to make financing difficult, and then with the Federal gov. to shut the company down, using SEC and or DOJ to bogusly charge them.
Cord, Hudson, DeLorean, the list is long.
Its why Kid Rock can’t be canceled.
Interesting exchange below. I’d imagine all governments are hating the idea of free speech these days.
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Cernovich
@Cernovich
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7h
Replying to @elonmusk
Why is Saudi Arabia so obsessed with blocking the deal, and why is the regime media covering this up?
Elon Musk
Replying to @Cernovich
Good question
Because Alwaleed is working with the Clinton/Obama/ Bill Gates Machine.
Opening the algorithm/code.. Wow. You could create your own Twitter off-shoot.
It’s a nail-biter. 🍿🥤
Love the Chernobyl level ambiguity of “Plan B.”
I heard no ambiguity. Yes, he HAS a plan B,…and I felt he KNEW his offer would not be accepted, when he made it.
In which case, this is just his opening gambit, and “plan B” is actually the main plan.
Love that he’s pointing out the ridiculous-ness of the Lefty term “African -American” to mean black American.
Yep, tearing down the lefty walls should be fun !
More fun I say !
An interesting point about Tesla and the SEC and his lack of respect for the San Francisco Office of the SEC
“The SEC knew funding was secured, but they pursued the active public investigation none the less. At the time Tesla was in a precarious financial situation, [Musk] was told by the Banks that if [he] did not agree to settle with the SEC, that they the Banks would cease providing working capital Tesla would go Bankrupt immediately.
So that’s like having a gun to your Child’s Head. So I was forced to concede to the SEC, unlawfully – those B@st@rds! And now they makes it it look like I lied when I did not in fact lie. I was forced to admit I lied to save Tesla’s life. And that’s the only reason!”
Kind of sounds like what President Trump has been facing but was always able to maneuver around his enemies, but it looks like Musk wasn’t a skilled at the time.
Both of these men stumbled, stuttered, and bumbled their words, it seems to becoming a thing amongst society. Anyway, interesting interview.
Hehe… it was kind of hard for me to dictate it. But in his defense, Musk isn’t an orator by trade, and he’s speaking in to a live public and streamed audience.
It’s really hard not to stumble or stutter with that much attention, especially with out any sort of preparation before hand.
I believe Musk has admitted to having Asperger’s syndrome, a disorder in language and communication skills, and is on the spectrum. Makes his accomplishments even more amazing.
My son is an Aspie. He uses large words oftentimes inappropriately and creates neologisms for various circumstances. He also has global apraxia which made learning to talk nearly impossible. He did not talk after 10 months of age until he was 4 years old.
Musk is very obviously a high functioning autist. He has “little professor” syndrome–knows his stuff about his passion and only wants to talk about that.
Not sure this will post correctly. Fingers crossed.
https://twitter.com/stevesurf/status/1514626215914573825/photo/1
aw shoot. Didn’t work. Here it is: Ben Garrison cartoon:
I have a trick for images. Here ya go, Sunnydaze…
How’d you do that?
Trump, DeSantis, Musk — we are acquiring some practical Titans in our war of the world. The weapons are far more formidable than bombs and bullets. The enemy has NO regard for life — when they use bombs and bullets, it is for psychological warfare. The real warfare is in power and control of wealth, influence, and information. There is no respect of life.
“By their fruits you shall know them”. Follow the tracks
Musk sure is an interesting, unique man. Anyone that makes Liberals heads explode is fun to watch.
Obama has been utilizing his SEC insider Moles to attack Musk for quite some time. Then you have Biden trying to stick his mafioso Unions on Tesla, while the Democrat Donors are heavily short the stock. I think Elon is tired of their BS/ Harassment and shakedowns.
Elon’s got it going on, he knows what’s up. He is definitely up to the challenge.
Elon Musk is my favorite African American.
The self-owning virtue-screaming has been glorious today.
Twitter suspended my acct the same day as Trump. Then they ignored my requests for appeal. A year later I was able to get back in with a different IP. I’ve recently quit Twitter and Facebook because they continue to censure content they don’t agree with. If Elon is able to pull this off, I would consider going back.
Didn’t know he had/has Asperger’s. That’s an interesting discovery and it explains a lot about his behavior and his brilliance.
I still don’t agree that carbon is inherently evil or that we’re even close to peak oil so I’d like to know why he believes we MUST abandon fossil fuels. Is he just a businessman and see the potential income if his company is the leader in that field or does he have some insight (maybe because of the way his brain is wired) that there really is some long term benefit to changing our energy system? How does such a “brillaint” fall for the climate scam? Is he deceived or part of the con?
I admire Musk and think he’s a fascinating person. I’m glad that he seems to have be red-pilled lately and maybe is a closeted Conservative. Who knows? But he still remains suspect and I don’t completely trust that his motives are as altruistic as he suggests.
Called it “Fossil fuel” which like peak oil, is a faulty theory, proven false.
There will be no “peak and decline” of oil, anytime soon, as was predicted for many years.
And oil doesn’t come from dinosaurs; Venus is awash in petrochemicals, methane, etc.
Unless someone can explain dinosaurs on Venus?
The evil Rooskies had it figured out decades ago. Oil is abiotic and is a natural lubricant for the planet. Earth makes all the oil it needs. Dry holes can be exploited years later because they are full again. Explain that, “peak oil” proponents.
Correct. Good old mother earth produces crude and natural gas.
Truth Social envy
The funny part of all this is Musk has Twitter’s CEO and board of directors over a barrel. If they poison pill or dilute the market with shares to prevent Musk’s tender offer, it will be a crystal clear case of financial malfeasance on their part.
It does not matter if Twitter stock was $70 1 day, 1 month or 1 year ago. The only thing that matters is what Twitter is worth per share in the here & now.
I watched much more of this video than I planned on, because I have been a bit curious about who Elon Musk really is. There’s no doubt he is a very interesting person. But I think what I guessed before I ever heard him speak may bevery accurate: that the left will hate him, and the right will be disappointed. For me, however, I have never put him on a pedestal. So the most I can say is that his ideas about expanding our “consciousness,” is a red flag. And it is glaring that God is not in his equation – but rather the human mind– “Enhanced” by technology. Plus the apparent “green energy” is a whole other issue.
I found this article interesting regarding Musk’s view of Jesus. It sounds like he admires a lot about Jesus and his teachings. Musk seems to be a seeker at heart — I pray that he does find Christ, and continue to use his powers for good and not evil.
https://www.premierchristianity.com/features/elon-musk-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-tech-genius-who-loves-jesus-teachings/2379.article
Thanks so much for the article. I will be praying for him also~
Hard to listen to him. Too many ugh’s. And stuttering
They really reveal themselves, don’t they?
Share this twit w/ every sane person you know who has a twit acc’t:
US gov owns FB Twitter and the MSM
Elon “i think twitter should match the laws of the country they are n”
Another benefit to what Musk is doing is it possibly is waking up the Republican Party to get off their butts, stop being afraid of the media and start defending the US Constitution.
Based on what I’ve witnessed today, Musk has proven that people are aware of what is happening and are sick & tired of putting up with it.
The bottom line is if you do not like what somebody says or writes, do not pay any attention to it.
Quit perpetrating the rediculous excuse that “Republicans” by which you mean Rino politicians, behave the way they do because they are “afraid”.
The betray their base (US) because they are RINOS.
RINO=Republican In Name Only=Democrat but lies about it to get elected in a Republican district or State.
Blaming everything on Rinos is a Dem talking point.
It is not ridiculous for Mega -Republicans to be concerned for their safety and the ability to earn a living..
The DOJ,Cia,FBI,facebook and twitter are more than willing
to plant evidence,
target you as a homophoic, deplorable, American hating terrorist,
destroy your reputation and business.
Mega-Republicans are the only group that will save this country.
Republicans are fighting back against the Democrat leaders,
because ,
The the Dems are betraying their base every day, because they are Democrats,
………………………blaming everything on someone else………………
…………….Russians,Republicans and greedy business owners…..etc…………….
Elon – “freespeech is when someone you dont like, can say something you don’t like”
Very poignant statements from Musk a couple months ago. Watch for about two minutes from this starting point. To Musk this is obviously a race to preserve humanity in an unreachable place before the worldwide veil of totalitarianism crashes down on Earth.
I share the sentiment.
Too many crabs in this bucket.
Elon Musk says he has a plan B. Fascinating.
I watched Steve Forbes interview with Bret Baier and Forbes was confident that Musk will succeed. According to Forbes if Musk has the cash there is nothing or no one who can stop him. “One way or the other he will get control of Twitter”
I’m not an expert on hostile takeovers but I felt good after hearing what Forbes had to say.
Remember — it’s totally fine, and it’s just a private company and you have to live by their rules when they want to crush you and national (and cultural) norms such as the free exchange of ideas.
When someone else wants to buy their private company, and shake up their rules to allow unfettered speech, it’s literally WW3 mixed with the Holocaust.
Here is an interesting question for the CTH forum!
If Elon succeeds there is no doubt that Elon will immediately offer to reinstate Trumps Twitter account. Would Trump accept? We would hope and think that the answer is YES but the answer is more complicated.
After Trump was banned from Twitter – GAB offered Trump an account. According to the owner of GAB , Andrew Torba- Jared Kushner – negotiating on behalf of Trump – tried to make a deal which would have given Trump a big share of GAB if Trump signed on. In addition Jared insisted on certain “content moderation” conditions. Certain subjects on GAB were considered off-limits to Jared. The owner of GAB – Andrew Torba, of course rejected these demands.
If Elon succeeds in gaining ownership will Trump insist on a share of the company and certain control on “content moderation” as a condition of coming back on the platform? If so I think that would be the biggest mistake that Trump could make.
F Kushner. Who is that feminine-looking little twerp to put any “content moderation” on any free-speech platform? Who is PDJT to go along with it? Is PDJT the person we thought he was? NO content moderation. Ever. Period. I don’t post on social media like Twit, fecesbook, etc. and I won’t be moderated on Truth Social, either. Content moderation my big fat hairy butt.
We are a land of oligarchs now. Much like the hated Russians. Who is our Putin?
For better or worse, the answer to that resides in the eye of the beholder..
If the Saudis would look past their narrow frame of reference on this, they’d see the significant benefit to their own National Security!