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“This is no small thing, to restore a republic after it has fallen into corruption. I have studied history for years and I cannot recall it ever happening. It may be that our task is impossible. Yet, if we do not try then how will we know it can’t be done? And if we do not try, it most certainly won’t be done. The Founders’ Republic, and the larger war for western civilization, will be lost.”
“But I tell you this: We will not go gently into that bloody collectivist good night. Indeed, we will make with our defiance such a sound as ALL history from that day forward will be forced to note, even if they despise us in the writing of it.”
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Sydney Poitier has died at the age of 94. I am saddened by his passing. He was a class act. RIP
Yes, he was. 94 is a long and full life. RIP sir!
My favorite three of his films:
RIP Sydney.
And Who Came to Dinner
“To Sir With Love“ is my absolute favorite Poitier film, and the farewell/theme song the student sang at the end of the film brought me to tears. He will be greatly missed.
How is the Federal Counsel arguing that the passing of the OSHA Act ‘usurped Police Powers outlined in the Constitution to the States’?
This isnt normal. this is what someone does when they are directed by some Outside Authority to put America on its Knees.
Federal counsel = Corrupt
Federal govt has long been SAID to have “no police powers”, but in reality police powers, a wholly STATE power, have been co-opted and coerced for many, many years.
The FBI, and forerunner to the DEA, the Fed Bureu if Narcotics, and division of the TREASURY Dept, are obvious, direct examples.
More broadly, there is the massive growth of “Administrative law”, which is unconstitutional in concept and execution, and which is KEY to the expansion of POWER of the Federal Burocracy.
If you ever are involved in “defending yourself” in an ADMINISTRATIVE Law case, you may well find yourself haveing NO Right to Council, NO Right to not being compelled to incriminate yourself, NO right to confront your accusers, and persecution and prosecution to bankrupt you, in order to force compliance.
Disputes with the IRS, filing Disability claims, are common examples of Administrative law, but any business or landowner in particular may find themselves of violating some regulation of the administrative state, (see “3 felonies a day”) and absolutely destroyed without any effective way to protect or defend yourself.
Go to AmericanThinker, and scroll down to the archives for yesterday.
There is an informative article “Decoding the Tyranny of the administrative State” which explores this in more detail.
Inet search “Civil forfieture abuses” to read about one example of how the administrative State is “out of control”.
I personally would prefer to be charged with, and have to defend myself against a felony criminal charge, rather than be faced with having to defend myself in an Administrative law case.
There are compelling arguements that Administrative law is, on its face UnConstitutional and it IS, certainly a major tool that has been used to gradually erode the liberties of the citisenry.
And yet most are unaware it even exists.
Regarding “3 felonies a day” …. what article on AT? I could not find anything from yesterday (Jan 6)?
“3 Felonies a Day is a book by an attorney, last name Silverstein or similar – written quite some years ago, I believe a Boston attorney.
The article in AT is “Decoding the Tyranny of the administrative State”
she manipulative says ‘that the idea that OSHA wouldn’t think of vaccines as a means to address the deadlist virus in OSHA’s history (meaning all viruses before OSHA was made are irrelevant in comparison) is absurd”
this is sick language perversion talk.
She was a slick talker I’ll give her that. The only part I heard was the last 15 min. Is it true that the applicants are simply looking for a stay on the mandates due to start soon? Is that all they are trying to get? I did not hear their arguments made earlier so I may have misinterpreted what their lawyer asked for.
yes
“These people are sick, they go into the next room and laugh.”
Sadism?
“I treat children and adults with mental illness. I see the dark side of human nature, and I try to understand it, so that I can treat it. I have no sympathy for the rise of sadism I see in America, and in Americans, today. It is ugly, despicable, and wholly destructive. It is fundamentally anti-American.”
-Dr. Mark McDonald, United States of Fear: How America Fell Victim to a Mass Delusional Psychosis
Good luck!
If you understand that evil exists, rationalizing it is no longer necessary.
I too have plumbed the depths of evil humans are capable of, both as a witness, as a victim and as a perpetrator, and so KNOW, with absolute conviction, that there is NO limit, no bottom no end to what humans are capable of, and clearly understand that applies to ME, just as much as to others.
It is only thru embracing Christ, that I assert restraints, that constrain my behavior.
In every dog, there is a WOLF that CAN, with sufficient provocation be brought out.
Dutch, I wish I could meet with you someday. Wish we could have a treepers reunion. There is an old Treehouse in Tennessee, that has since been condemned. It could have been kept up. But it was huge. It held world records, and was built as a ministry.
I often picture Treepers sitting scattered on this treehouse
I live in Crossville, TN. That Treehouse has since been destroyed by fire. A neighbor purchased the property and is starting to farm it.
I agree, would have been perfect location for CTH meetings.
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g54986-d6028137-Reviews-The_Minister_s_Tree_House-Crossville_Tennessee.html#/media-atf/6028137/259825674:p/?albumid=-160&type=0&category=-160
I hear you Dutch. I too, have walked a very storied road, Some good, some bad.
But I have acknowledged this to the Lord, ask daily for His forgiveness and do my best to be kind to others. Even those who don’t deserve it.
It’s a force we all must try and control. Remembering that it is in God’s hands.
Reality: EVERYTHING that Congress has passed since 1861 attempting to control the land and soil jurisdiction is unconstitutional and invalid. The 19 enumerated powers granted to the federal (meaning contract) government pertain only to the international and global jurisdictions.
Louisiana Solicitor General, Elizabeth Murrill, is excellent both in her content and her delivery !
Scoop: Mike Pence’s team helping Jan. 6 committee
https://www.axios.com/pence-team-helping-jan-6-committee-d634d742-77f9-4e1f-a0ef-d92b81fbcfcb.html
There are sure a lot of traitors and saboteurs from within.
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Former WH Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham: “Zoom Group” Of Former Trump Aides Meeting Next Week To “Try And Stop” Him
Excerpt:
Stephanie Grisham, a former White House press secretary for President Trump, told CNN Thursday morning that a group of former Trump staffers are meeting next week to begin organizing ways to “try and stop him” from running again.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2022/01/06/former_wh_press_secretary_a_group_of_former_trump_aides_will_try_and_stop_him.html
Sicko
There actions only reinforce how thoroughly McConnell and others seeded the Trump admin with those bent on subverting his agenda, just as they seeded the Reagan admin with “Bushies”.
Our collective focus on the WH, with less focus on Congress, not understanding how the Presidency has been weakened to shift the balance of divided government, with more power accrueing to Congress and the Courts, is essential to understanding “How we got to where we ARE”, which in turn is essential to any significant coarse change.
Otherwise, all our efforts are just “rearranging the deck chairs, on the Titanic”.
Additionally, we allowed our FOCUS at election time, to be turned to Federal elections, at the expence of vital STATE and local elections.
Look at $oro$; HE understands LOCAL prosecutors, DA’s, AG’s are essential to preserving our Republic, thats whyvhe is spending so much $, trying to influence them.
How do we organize well enough to be effective. Declare a true war against the Treasonists, and win — without destroying our sacred republic?
The republic is taking its last breaths. It is terminal.
Grisham resume really sub mediocre-how the heck did she get into Trump administration. Never finished college , kids out of wedlock, DUI ‘s. Should never have been anywhere near the White House.
She was hired by the First Lady. OOPS!
Hard to tell who recommended her –she drifted in from the Arizona campaign staff–someone knew to push her close to FLOTUS. Someone with a shady background like hers would be oh so willing to be a plant IMO. From Wikipedia–Grisham was the spokeswoman for AAA Arizona in 2007,[18] but was fired within a year after being accused of cheating on expense reports.[19]Grisham was fired from a subsequent job at ad agency Mindspace over plagiarism charges, copying AAA material verbatim into her client’s web page.[19]
She worked for Romnney campaign as well.
Cheating and plagiarism ? Should be working for Biden. Those are his specialties.
You have never hired anyone that turned out to be a total shit? Or perhaps you have never hired anyone.
I always felt it was a hire to give someone an opportunity that was above their reach.
She blew it bigtime.
Was Melania’s Secretary/COS..whatever the title.
From her recent appearances and photos, it looks like she fell off the wagon or is the latest video addition on Hunter’s Laptop from Hell.
I really despise that these treaturous people ever were staffers. Everyone should have been fired from inside the WH in 2017… and replaced with MAGA. There were plenty if them at the grass roots level. And talking to CNN?! Shameful.
Every previous President entered office with a National campaign staff of thousands, and a Party structure to assist their transition.
ONLY DJT won with a paid campaign staff of around 100 and had State Republican party staff openly doing everything they could, to undermine his election.
During the transition, THOUSANDS, perhaps closer to 10 thousand “political appointee positions” become open, and must be filled, IN 3 MONTHS.
There is probably no private sector equivalent, and this alone is a clear indication of how bloated the Buerocracy has become.
That PDJT was able to accomplish ANYTHING during his first term, is beyond amasing. That he accomplished so much, is objective proof in divine intervention, as there is simply no other rational explanation, IMHO.
Agree with you Dutch. My skeptical self (as well as the wisdom of the framers/founders) is to NEVER attribute too much deity to one man or organization, but the more I studied and watched PDJT, the more I felt what he accomplished was close to miraculous. I also saw him develop a sense of sacred humility as he discovered the enomity of the monster/dragon he was up against. He clearly does what he does for us
Whores are gonna whore.
The other sickening info I just picked up from warroom pandemic was that Kinzinger donated $250 to the killer of Ashli Babbitt – Michael Byrd’s GoFundMe effort.
Your first line says it all.
https://trendingpolitics.com/never-forget-pelosi-praised-protesters-for-storming-wisconsin-state-capitol-decade-ago/
We expect the treasonous, pusillanimous Pence to be helping the enemy.
As they say: “It’s what traitors do!”
Any Pence candidacy, any Cruz candidacy, any perfidious RINO candidacy must have multiple stakes driven through their hearts.
Indeed. My fear is the GOPe will purposely serve up such a noxious ticket on purpose in order for the Dems to steal a “win” again😒
The RINOs may indeed create the America First Party.
The Rinos and Obama might be said to have created the America First party, the MOVEMENT within the Republican BASE, in opposition ti the RNC/GOPe “leadership” is a fracture that has been apperent, but papered over, my whole life.
The GOPe have a long history of clear actions to further a Dem winning, rather than allowing a non GOPe candidate to prevail.
They threw it to the Dems, in 1964 to prevent Goldwater, they threw Alabama Senate seat and Az Senate seat in 2018.
The GOPe ARE the enemy of the people.
Reading your post with a donald duck voice in my head.
Yet… Trump still defends Pence and only says they had a disagreement re: the Jan 6 election elector certification. Trump does not disparage Barr either.
This is why a part of me still believes/hopes that President Trump DID have a strategy and a team and that Pence, Barr, Sessions and many others are part of that team even though it certainly looks like they betrayed, even plotted against, The President of The United States. I just do not understand Trump’s view about these and quite a few other men and women now. I don’t get it.
Were you, PDJT, betrayed by Pense and Barr and Sessions, etc…. or not? Did you really not know McConnell was trying to harm you as POTUS and plotted the election steal from you? President Trump should have TOLD us. Speak to us from the oval office. Ask us to all be present at the polls, 1000s, at the counting and refuse to leave on election day and every day after that to ensure that the election cannot be stolen from you.
Sigh.
Don’t burn the bridge, unless you have a raft.
Trump is one clever businessman.
But, Democrats and RINOs will never let him be President ever again.
I expect president Trump to win 2024, although I doubt we ever have a fair election again.
The choice is clear but voting by mail is a huge scam. Smartmatic and Dominion too.
https://magapill.com/
It is indeed curious, as Trump is not shy about dishing on those who screw him.
I’m past it, but every now and then I like to sniff some fairy dust and notice that it still seems like a big sting. People keep going under oath, incriminating themselves and others, but weirdly nothing happens, and then it goes up the chain. But isn’t that how a sting would happen? The little guys give testimony for their freedom and up the ladder it goes.
None of us would have ever imagined how globally rotten to the core it all is. If nothing else, the last 6 years have drawn armies upon armies of the coackroaches out of the dark and into the light. Had Biden not been elected, we would not have known who was who in the bad guy zoo. The corruption is so deep and wide and so global that just taking out the obvious players would have been a useless exercise.
Still, every now and then I like to wonder why, if “They” are so powerful, then why does the likes of Liz and Shifty keep holding hearings where more stuff comes out, under oath. Sure, nothing happens to anyone. But why hold the meetings in the first place? They are lawyers. They know having people talk, even to tell lies, helps put the whole picture together. Seems like they would just keep quiet.
And then I wake up and realize we are in deep.
B E S T P I C T U R E!
just want to make one last point.
the fact the Fed Lawyers are okay with arguing mask and testing, and not the forced vaccine in the OSHA case today—> is because it STILL gets you the Control over Commerce entry and Exit (Social Credit System).
the snake slithering in under disguise by appearing reasonable to let people OPT OUT of the vaccine. BUT THE SNAKE STILL GETS IN.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/12/30/biden-administration-begins-building-infrastructure-for-permanent-pandemic-dod-sign-137-million-deal-for-test-strip-facility-to-complete-in-late-2024/
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you do not want to get to this —>
https://4thamendmentrestored.com/f/immunity-status-check-point-to-enter-into-commerce
or you are truly in a Jew Hitler situation that you only READ ABOUT
Saying you must take the vaccine, or pay for unaffordable testing is a vaccine mandate.
Yes!
I would still like to know where the two bankrupted corporations in business to provide government services, i.e., the British Territorial United States and the Municipal United States, are getting the money to even pay themselves let alone subcontract for additional services.
From loans provided by the private, not federal, “Federal Reserve Bank”, which will never be paid off in perpetuity, the debt is rolled over and over again, financed at better interest rates, and at the least the interest on the debt is paid (probably at the most as well).
Just to clarify, by loans I mean fiat money – created out of thin air.
Yes! You are correct. “because it STILL gets you the Control over Commerce entry and Exit (Social Credit System).”
Supremes need to ask only 3 questions.
1. does the vaccine prevent someone from getting covid?
2. does the vaccine prevent the vaccinated from spreading covid?
3. what the hell are we doing here then?
they got some of it answered, and it was BIZARRE how calmly the Federal lawyer talked stupidly.
She said there is a risk to the vaccinated from the unvaccinated.
How many Damn vaccines do you need until you are a vaccinated and RISKLESS ?? these people are freaks! I have never condoned bullying or picking on people, but THEY ARE MAKING ME SEEE why it might have been necessary in school possibly.
Can someone make that makes sensee!?
Sounds like this Federal Lawyer is trying to pass off these mRNA injections as if they are *sterilizing* vaccines.
There are *no* sterilizing vaccine to stop the *spread* of constantly mutating coronaviruses that will always exist in both people and animals. Never was and never will be a sterilizing vaccine!
Absolutely untrue, “ She said there is a risk to the vaccinated from the unvaccinated.” The unvaccinated are at risk from the vaccinated shedding. They are the carriers.
It does not make sense.
When you get a new puppy, you are instructed to keep it away from other dogs until it is fully vaccinated so it doesn’t get sick.
Once your pup has had all its shots, it is “safe” from other dogs regardless of their vaccination status.
We can follow along with Barnes Law commenting live here:
For whatever it’s worth, Barnes is predicting that the Supreme Court will rule against OSHA mandate/Biden by a 6-3 or 5-4 vote. He sees Alito, Gorsuch, Thomas as firm. Thinks 2 or 3 of Roberts/Kavanaugh/Barrett will join them.
We will see. They have let us down too often in the past.
Pray that Barnes is right.
Hes wrong, I am betting.
“the Vax is a TAX” is what they will say.
A tax that is a penalty.
Wasn’t it Barnes that predicted the Karen’s on the Rittenhouse jury would never vote to acquit?
I didn’t follow that case but he’s definitely been wrong before
in fact he predicted in this very case that the lower court would rule en banc to strike it down after the 3 judge panel upheld it…..vs going direct to SC. That never happened.
I do not trust any of the triumvirate of the woke… Roberts has been blackmailed for years and will do whatever he is told and the other two were put in place by McConnell and the Federalist society which unfortunately, tells us everything we need to know. My prediction, unfortunately, is 5-4 upholding the mandate.
I pray this is right. If not, it would give the Federal government unprecedented control over everything they touch. It doesn’t matter whether or not we are “in a pandemic”. It’s just like rounding up Japanese Americans and putting them in internment camps because of a War. I’m sooo incredibly disappointed at some of the Justices. Sotomayer especially. And you can’t compare OSHA requirements to sanitize equipment to forcing people to inject an unwanted substance into their bodies.
I’m sick at my stomach, but wiser, for having listened to the lack of quality in the Supreme Court.
I’m sorry, I heard that ridiculous argument by Sotomayer – I think she’s, how should I say, NOT A “Wise Latina”.
And exactly what I’m referring to as you mentioned Born Free – the hand sanitizer and sanitizing equipment argument.
Seriously, hand sanitizer is temporary, I can wash it off/it wears off pretty readily. Sanitizing equipment is comparable to forcing an injectable into my body??
Something injected into my body the effects of which (unknown at that!) might last months/years is similarly situated to sanitizing equipment and requiring hand sanitizer?
Does she not hear herself?
I’m surprised this case isn’t getting more attention
This one is for all the marbles.
I can’t believe the ignorance of the scientific findings about “spread” and “vaccination” OR the downright lying by several justices.
Makes perfect sense but we’re talking totalitarian control. President Trump pulled back the curtain and everyone has decided they might as well unmask and stop pretending. That’s why the extremely aggressive tact by government, big tech, media etc. They know that we know and they are getting on with it.
That is a good analysis and much evidence points right to that. Now what?
We know, they know, they know we know and they are doing it anyway. How do we stop them? Not very confident the SC is going to do much at all.
Heard several of the Justices say the vaccines are good, doing their job and they are not trying to say differently but ….. What does that tell you. Political speech so they don’t get blasted in the media?
They don’t know the first thing about the efficacy/risk.
Those who know only have come that point by being cynics, critical thinkers, and most importantly, spending time sifting through bunk to find meaningful data, facts, and informed opinions from the biomedical ranks.
Cjzak: The last thing we need is Justices opining on the efficacy of “vaccines.” I’m not even confident that the Justices understand law.
No kidding.
But I hear Kagan / Bryer essentially basing their arguments for the mandate on the idea that it’s the only way to stop the spread. I mean she’s going back two years to what was a fallacious argument to begin with.
I couldn’t listen anymore.
I have as little respect for SCOTUS as I do the Dems and the GOP and the media and big teach. NONE!
These people are killing us – does or does not OSHA have the authority to mandate a vaccine? Yes or no?
I say the answer is clearly no. But what do I know, I’m no lawyer, just schooled in common sense.
They are getting into irrelevant weeds.
Again the Judicial Branch shouldn’t be judging the medical benefit of anything. Stick to if a mandate is lawful and constitutional.
The Nazis didn’t let the Jews know they were going to be killed because they didn’t want to cause a panic. It made the Nazis job easier and more efficient.
“How do we stop them?”
Firstly “know your enemy,” which means not just identifying who your enemies IS, although thats important and for the most part, by words and actions they ARE revealing themselves.
It means understanding “How we got to where we are?” so that we can STOP doing what we have always done, recognise HOW they have manipulated us, develop DIFFERENT strstegies and tactics, adapt and overcome.
May say “FIRST, we MUST,….” and there are SO MANY “Firsts”.
Wresting control of the Republican party, away from the Rinos, from district to National level, HAS to be first priority, if we are going to use ballot box, rather than ammo box (in which case everybody loses!) to effect change.
Eventually, overcoming the Rinos in control of Congress, which will take time. But, simultaneous with those efforts, and as part if taking control at District to State level, getting MAGA Governors, State legislature majorities (to support the Governors efforts with legislation) Sos’s, etc.
These Governors and legislatures must engaged in a sustained relentless battle to aggressively assert States rights, in order to strip the Federal Govt if powers it has expropriated over many years, and only been able to expropriate, because State governments passively aquiesed.
Its tackling the heart of the problem on several fronts, by focusing on the roots of how we got to where we are, and I believe it is the only viable path forward.
I’d say, even if the vaccines are wonderful, and are working exactly as many expected, just as a sterilizing vaccine (which these clearly are not) should, is irrelevant to the case at hand:
Does or Does Not OSHA have the power/authority to mandate an injection? Yes or No.
A virus is not a workplace tool or object that may cause me/others injury or death and my body is not the workplace – the actual “space” OSHA has been given authority to regulate.
You quarantine the sick (not to be confused with positive test) from work and that is that. And return the sick individual to work once no longer sick.
They unmasked, and now want US to wear the masks.
Common sense would dictate that if the vaccine doesn’t prevent illness, and there are adverse reactions to the vaccine itself, then the risks outweigh the benefits.
Sounds logical. Until the lawyer for the govt. says that the risks DO NOT outweigh the vaccines benefits. She said it several times and no one rebutted that when I was listening. One of the justices asked why should people have to be ordered to take the vaccine if there are any risks at all to it? I think it was Gorsuch? The smooth talking govt. lawyer jumbled through a whole bunch of nonsense to justify that. No vaccine is without risk and many are mandated for school etc. that we have all been subjected to. Protecting fellow workers from infection that can cause death. yada yada.
Who knows what the SC will do. Sounded like they still think the states and Congress are in charge of this issue and of OSHA and should be handling it through legislation. To me anyway.
I did not hear the applicants lawyers and their arguments though to be fair. Not sure what they laid out in their presentation.
CDC said, and evidence corroborates, that vaxx does not prevent transmission or infection. Therefore, there is no basis for a court to even decide the issue. There is no public benefit from an epidemiological standpoint to mess with mandates.
evergreen: Government lawyers are barking up the wrong tree if they are arguing on the basis of drug efficacy. Efficacy is irrelevant. The question at hand is whether or not the government has the legal authority to mandate the injection of anything into an individual.
No.
The CDC is the reference authority here and is on record stating the vaccine is sh*t as far as vaccines are concerned.
That being the central fact, the vaxx is NOT a community safety device. PERIOD.
There is NO case at that point, because the mandate is NULL based upon ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS.
Pass that test with a real vaccine, and then you have a legal case about MAY it be injected, etc.
Otherwise, you have a case right now that argues: “Is the federal/OSHA power to mandate cyanide injections for workplace safety OVERLY BROAD? Yes or no?”
evergreen: Perhaps, I am misinterpretting what you wrote, but, CDC has no say, whatsoever, in constitutional matters. CDC is nothing more than a bureacuracy that issues pronouncements.
Let me rephrase it thusly.
People are declining the vaxx out of fear–it is a safety/health concern. No one is quibbling about hard hats on the construction site. This is about such irreversible things as a sometimes-lethal vaxx, or amputation, etc.
The technical argument about “May the govt mandate X” needs to be paused until “What is X” is resolved.
For example, the govt may mandate that a company issue safety goggles at a place of employment. OK. Is that in and of itself a monumental and irreversible burden? Not really.
Can that be litigated as overly broad? Sure. Is there harm either way the decision goes? Nothing that is irreversible BY DINT OF A MANDATE.
OK. How about the govt mandating the injection of a listed poison? Is that within the same category of power? Well, I think you would skip that question up front and go directly instead to WTF and why is a listed poison even being considered…what’s the basis?
If, instead, you stay true to your path and litigate WHETHER the govt may mandate X, irrespective of its toxicity, then you risk losing the battle for health AND the battle for restraint of power.
Fight for health first; it’s the fundamental question. Winning that battle does not automatically confer a win in the power question, but losing the power question undeniably loses the battle for health. You LOSE BOTH.
Correct!
When I used to build scaffolding the rule was anytime you were over 8 ft above the ground you had to wear a harness and be tied to something.
That is a smart mandate.
Everyone wins!
The employee, the employer and the insurance company.
Making everyone on the job site wear a harness is not.
I think you’ve seriously mis-read the CDC’s positions, and you provide no link to back up your argument. Where is this “on record” you refer to? What I can locate directly refutes what you say their position is…
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/effectiveness/index.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Fvaccines%2Feffectiveness.html
Yes!
BINGO!!!
Yup, that’s what I say.
And that is the entire Salient point and from what I am hearing, no one is bringing it up! It’s plain and simple – the Jabs do not stop transmission and therefore mandating them serves no benefit and is in fact a violation of more constitutional rights than there are justices sitting there in their black robes nodding like they all have MDs!
there is short-term, medium-term and long-term risk.
we know much about the risks and benefits for the short-term. it is pretty clear that the short-term risks outweigh the benefits for people under the age of 50, arguably for people under the age of 80.
we do not know what the medium and/or long-term risks are.
this is not hard.
once again, it is becoming apparent that the average person can not read and comprehend at a fifth grade level, and cannot do math or stats at a fifth grade level.
people have been faking their way through school and then life, and people have been allowing them to do so.
the dumbing down of america and of the western world is complete.
“no child left behind”… “common core”…
Dictators dictate. Common sense went right out the window.
I mean it’s obvious that vaxed people are spreading the virus in the workplace. I think we should mandate education instead of indoctrination for our nation.
We DO mandate education below a certain age. You can get it at home, at public schools or at private schools, but it IS mandated. Failing to ensure your child is educated incurs penalties.
I wasn’ aware that education was life threatening.
A simple question of Kagan, Sotomayor, and Bryer: “Are you aware that one needn’t study the data diligently to understand, simply by reading a newspaper, that countries like Iraeal, Portugal, Ireland, had vax rates in the mid to high nineties yet noting but outbreaks of the virus?
Here’s a simple answer. The situation in other countries is legally irrelevant to a case being decided on the basis of US law that only affects US citizens and residents.
Sorry, no “one size fits all”. Common sense is an inadequate standard for health care. One must calculate risk vs benefit on an individual basis, based on a single patient’s set of co-morbidities and level of homeostasis.
The vaccines (even if you insist they aren’t vaccines – a pointless distraction), are generally of benefit to the oldest and the “weakest”. But even that should not be decided by classes, like “everyone over 60”. Some need it, some don’t, and the wise course is always to decide in consultation with YOUR licensed provider, who knows YOUR chart.
Admittedly, governments try to lump everyone together to make their job easier. Good doctors do not do that.
They did not ask much of that from what I heard.
Words matter
When I talked to a Doctor yesterday
He said I needed protection
He did not say the word prevention
That’s the difference between a VACCINE
And a experimental drug
Those are not constitutional questions and not constitutional issues of individual liberty.
Wrong questions.
The question is, where/when did the legislative branch (Congress) give these kinds of dictatorial powers to the FDA/CDC (Executive Branch).
Answer: They didn’t.
Congress is lazy.
For many years now it has allowed unelected burocrats to write, legislate and enforce laws that congress has declined to do for political reasons.
They write laws that give agency’s authority to do what they don’t have the guts to do themselves.
or intellect
they dont need to answer ANY of that, because it has nothing to do with the constitution.
the PEOPLE need to ask only 1 question:
Does this government represent me and do I still want to consent?
The ONLY question that the SCOTUS has to answer is – Does the President (Executive Branch) have the CONSTITUTIONAL authority to unilaterally demand that employers force their employess to take an experimental drug and “fire” that employee if they say NO and if the employer refuses to do that then the federal government can FINE that employer a ridiculous amount of money??? They ARE NOT THERE to address medical issues or the “safety and effectiveness” of these experimental drugs PERIOD!!!! Whether these drugs work or not is NOT the issue here.
To me the whole thing is ludicrous on its face!
Here I’m just addressing the OSHA mandate, I did not catch arguments regarding medicare/medicaid.
And just plain old common sense says OSHA has no power to make this rule – just read the OSHA statute itself that OSHA is using to create this mandate. Like fitting a square peg in a round hole.
Just read Ron Klain’s tweet!!
Just read the original circuit’s reasoning that got it “right as rain”.
Think: A virus so deadly that we ONLY NEED to mandate a vaccine for employers of 100 or more employers – so, the virus is not deadly to employers of 99 or less employees? Or in the alternative, we do not care about the employees who work for employers of 99 or less? Of course not.
It’s because the Only OSHA Statute that even came kinda, sorta, not really, close to potentially being made to fit a mandate covers employers of 100 or more employees.
OSHA applies TO THE WORKPLACE – any OSHA mandate that affects me even while I am not at work cannot properly fall under an OSHA rule.
What ELSE will OSHA be allowed to mandate that permanently affects me while I am not at work or after I’ve left the employer subject to the mandate?
It was argued that the vaxxed are protected but the small chance they could still get it from unvaxxed is still too risky, and the unvaxxed don’t have a say on whether they need to be protected or not, such as a worker running a machine with a guard shield installed on it. All BS arguments. And they didn’t discuss the serious issues, just the strawman arguments. These are my takes on it anyway.
And did anyone counter that the vaxxed can give it to the unvaxxed as well?
Just curious, I did not hear the whole thing so genuinely asking.
Please explain to me where in the Constitution the feds have control of public health.
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Ted Cruz’s Tucker Carlson Apology.
Stunning. Simply stunning.
Apology kicked back into his yellow-belly, sniveling face.
Cruz obviously got hammered for trashing the J6 political prisoners, instead of attacking the thieves that stole our national election.
After committing political seppuku with conservatives, creepy Cruz immediately dives into a brutal face plant on Tucker Carlson’s show.
Cruz has zero principles. He has no spine, no values, no moral compass.
His Pastor dad must be crying in his grave.
RESIGN NOW, YOU HIDEOUS FOOL
I called his office yesterday to tell him, that he has lost my vote. I just called again to tell him to resign but his mailbox is full.
His office won’t take my calls anymore.
I just wrote him and said I was surprised to hear he would not be running for office again and asked what he planned to do after his term ends. Probably go right over his head.
The Fourth Branchvidians slither in the darkness, slime, and weeds.
But the inexorability of the plan the statists imagine is summed up nicely in this poster image:
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He jumped off the train for his friend.
Sadly it appears that the Supreme Court is going sideways on us.
Again.
no one is coming to the American people’s rescue.
there is only us.
Anyone have insight as to what this is all about??
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/06/harris-was-inside-dnc-on-jan-6-when-pipe-bomb-was-discovered-outside-526695?nname=playbook&nid=0000014f-1646-d88f-a1cf-5f46b7bd0000&nrid=0000015d-df62-d5b7-af5f-fff3c0e70000&nlid=630318
… “Before Thursday’s anniversary, Harris had said little about her movements during the siege. In news reports shortly afterward, she described being at the Capitol complex for an intelligence briefing in the morning and then leaving for something previously planned. She didn’t return to the Capitol until the riot had ended and the joint session of Congress resumed.
Uncertainty about Harris’ whereabouts as a mob breached the Capitol building briefly bubbled up in a handful of criminal cases connected to the Jan. 6 insurrection. In dozens of indictments, the Justice Department had erroneously described Harris as being present in the Capitol during the attack, and only recently discovered the error. DOJ has since issued numerous superseding indictments to correct the mistake.”
Isn’t this a fairly large underreported error?
Was she directing operations?
Would you trust her, Harris, not to screw things up? There is no way she was directing any J6 operation.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10379443/Two-lawyers-urging-Supreme-Court-block-Bidens-vaccine-mandates-catch-COVID-testify-remotely.html
It would be hugely ironic if they both were “vaccinated”.
So testers can still run tests over and over until the get the results they need?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10379253/Oprah-Winfrey-Barack-Obama-Bill-Clinton-called-Joe-Manchin-filibuster.html
Oprah??????????????????????? That really, really pisses me off. Let us hope all West Virginians know this.
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He represents the people of West Virginia — not the money of creeps whom are named . . .
What has this nation become when a sitting Supreme Court “justice” like Sotomayor can lie repeatedly about basic covid facts during a SCOTUS hearing? She claimed 1) Omicron is more deadly than Delta, 2) There are 100,000 kids in hospitals with covid, many of whom are on ventilators and 3) Hospitals are flooded with covid patients.
John Roberts should be embarrassed at these lies spouted in his courtroom by a sitting SCOTUS justice.
These people understand which side their toast is buttered on. Each one of them could stand to make many <u>bil</u>lions of dollars from a favorable-to-business decision.
But the patience of the people is wearing thin. They have turned first to one branch of government then another then another searching for relief – and finding that it is nowhere to be found. This cannot end well.
you are right on point.
every FBI agent, Every DHS agent, every national security employee –> They all know whats bubbling under the surface, and that America can snap once civility doesnt exist. They know Americans once pushed to far can be far more deadly, dangerous, vengeful, blood thirsty than any criminal, gang, or terrorist.
Not a wise Latina.
Wow… the Supreme Court is full of Fascists… unbelievable…
Many of them are acting out on emotions and FALSE INFORMATION.
We have a crisis in the supreme lawyers of the land.
False information or intentional lies? I believe it’s the latter given the obvious lies told by Sotomayor against which the facts are easily checked.
Wow… Sotomayer… She believes that it is the Right of the Federal Government to regulate health and welfare and that it’s okay for the federal government to use OUR MONEY (not the Fed’s money as she states) to CONTROL people’s behavior. She speaks as if this is a moral imperative of the federal government. This is extremely dangerous thinking.
Yeah, she’s ‘wise latina woman’ dontchya know !
why? why are we still waiting with baited breath for an illegitimate institution to hand down another edict to the plebes?
WHO
CARES
what they say anymore????
IMO the Supreme Court hearing was a disaster and only an act of God can lead to a favorable ruling. Here are a couple of observations.
1. When you start your argument with “we believe the vaccine are totally effective and that everyone should get it, you check one for the opponent. This is totally false.
2. No discussion about risk stratification. Yes the virus can be deadly, but rarely and in certain high risk individuals.
3. Almost no discussion about adverse reactions, except that the FDA said they are totally safe. Wrong
4.Many false statements about the Omicron variant including higher hospitalizations and death…including “hundreds of thousands of extremely ill children.” No one challenged this grossly inaccurate statement by one of the justices .
5. The implied statement there is no other treatment options
6. No discussion about superior natural immunity
I wish the presenters could have been medical professionals instead of lawyers…
If the supreme court sides with the Biden mandates, than at least we know where we stand. There will be no more room for debate. We will know that the fascists have complete control. There will be no possibility of an amicable solution.
The sooner we know the better.
A clear headed assessment of where we are.
Unfortunately you are quite correct. There are three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammo box.
One more Box – the Constitution
Florida, Texas, Lousiana etc.. can do extreme federalism and say NO company or Federal Entity can direct a citizen of this State to take a vaccine, show a passport, or wear a mask.
Right now the data say 1 in 2000 young males will get myocarditis or pericarditis or suffer a heart attack or a stroke.
That’s beyond “high” in scientific terms.
i didnt even realize that was in the constitution to serve as a point of adjudication…
Whether these “vaccines” are safe and effective IS NOT the Constitutional issue. The issue before the SCOTUS is whether the President himself has the constitutional authority to unilaterally make any American take an experimental drug against his will. If this SCOTUS rules in favor of these “mandates” then EVERY Constitutional right is in jepordy. Based on what has been reported it seems that the SCOTUS position is – if these vaccines work than the President can mandate them and it is Constitutional, if they don’t work then it is un-Constitutional???? Does that make any sense????
Regarding number two: no one knows how deadly the virus is since safe and effective treatments are not allowed. I imagine bronchitis could be deadly too if you weren’t allowed to get treatment for it.
I still say not a bit of it matters.
Does OSHA have this authority, yes or no?
As we have seen, whatever vaccine “facts” the court uses to base its decision are not going to be true in 60 days. The virus mutates, and our knowledge changes. The vaccine was 90% effective, but no longer. Setting a permanent precedent on such an ephemeral data stream is not prudent.
It’s falling apart in
Kazakhstan .
I was just watching some of the videos.
Crazy.
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/shoot-to-kill-order-in-kazakhstan-wild-footage/
Horse militias in Kazakhstan, amazing to see.
Now you know why the extreme effort to label Jan 6 protesters as terrorists. And Jan 6 protester has been expanded to include any Trump supporter. If you don’t think they will shoot you down, think again.
“Shoot to kill order.”
I would think there are a lot of Russian AK’s around in Kazakhstan.
Might get interesting.
I hate up voting that, but it is and it’s bad. Colour Revolution? I wouldn’t count it out.
Today’s Supreme Court case is the best argument for the REINS Act I’ve ever seen.
Otherwise we have an unlimited bureaucratic agency with virtual unlimited police power.
If anyone still needs a wake up call, leave them behind and for your survival don’t trust them.
its bible story time.
the one where the guy was told to keep walking, and dont look back.
They didn’t even make a decision yet, why is everyone freaking out?
Our SC sucks. This case is a joke. We are all hosed. I want to revolt now!
They will shoot.
I’m hoping 7 of them were stupid enough to take the clot shot and won’t be with us much longer.
and yet our consent shall continue.
Unfortunately, the younger justices, no matter their politics, have been raised to believe only the Fed. government can solve problems. Worse yet, they believe only government should be problem solvers, not you, not your company, not your state or town.
Old libs believe that too.
THE WRONG MAN FOR THE JOBS: Biden Misses Jobs Forecast By 200,000
https://hannity.com/media-room/the-wrong-man-for-the-jobs-biden-misses-jobs-forecast-by-200000/
This EXCELLENT honest interview presents the CCP influence on every aspect of American life and the current narratives confronting our country including BLM, CRT, Defund the Police, wokeness, social media etc. etc. I am posting this here for those who have access or want to have access to Epoch Times interviews with Joshua Phillips. It provides doable solutions for every level.
The Chinese Regime Is Weakened, yet Increasingly Dangerous: Casey Fleming
https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/the-chinese-regime-is-weakened-yet-increasingly-dangerous-casey-fleming_4195721.html
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The D.C. GOP has gotten so lazy and laid back ,they allow the ever evolving awfulness of The Dems to do ALL and any of the” push back ” that being the supposed opposition party is called to do.
Indeed, when they do push back at all, it is aimed at members of their own party who are so crass as to make the way less smooth for Dems…
When the base calls the GOPe to account for sitting on their hands, (expect for the constant stabbing the base in the back ,again and again,) they accuse the base “of joining the Dems!” Talk about projection!
The crazy reality is; even Dems have pushed back far more on this Dem regime than the GOPe, save for a few individuals who, are of course, attacked and under cut by their own party.
the issue is having Senators living in DC. that should end immediately.
A federal judge rejected the FDA’s request to produce the Pfizer Covid vaccine data at 500 pages per month and instead ordered a rate of 55,000 pages per month
Check out Trump’s new social media “Truth Social”. It is said to launch on President’s day and possibly an announcement of his candidacy. See details on rs the right scoop.
I hope he doesn’t run, He will make a bigger impact with Trump media.
Our current fake news are THE enablers of the swamp. If not for them, we would have no Russia hoax, no impeachment Hoax, no Jan 06 hoax.
Our state controlled information is what gives the deep state its power. The media is part of the deep state.
Trump can derail that if the crooks don’t shut it down.
please entertain this thought.
He runs, they Steal, he says No. The citizens rise up and lawfully purge terrorist that have stole from us.
Trump hired someone to run his media company, Devine Nunes. Trump is an executive, not a hands on person. He hires people to work for him.
President Trump is our duly elected President. He needs his second term and we will put massive pressure on him to get rid of traitors from the first term. They all have shown their stripes.
I already have my shares. Made money on the initial offering and hoping to make more when Truth Social goes live. How cheeky of Trump to do so on President’s day. We really need a social media alternative that has not been subverted by the deep state, globalists, Democrats, etc.
Yep. I couldn’t listen to those ill-informed assholes anymore. If the justices of the SC don’t know anymore about the science of who spreads and who doesn’t spread this pathogen and its variants, when anyone and everyone can go to Google Scholar and type in a search and read all kinds of up to date research…hell, even the CDC head said the vaccines at their best prevent dire symptoms but do NOT Protect people from the spread by the vaxxed, I think we need to get rid of the Court.
Dear Framers,
You had a great idea, but you couldn’t possibly have imagined how we would have reached a point in time when a corrupt media grew so very large and corrupt that all our institutions were either corrupt or staffed by those who were never qualified to fill the jobs.
the framers had a remedy for that, too.
Of course they did, which is why we have the 2nd Amendment.
Sorry to have to object on a technicality, but one can’t Google and obtain anything close to a comprehensive review of research. Most peer-reviewed studies and papers by a wide margin are only accessible behind paywalls. Unless you have medical licensure or are a student with a relevant major (universities pay for access), you have to pay on a per-article basis just to read them.
BBC video of a real insurrection in Kazakhstan where toe former presidential palace was burned in the biggest city, Almaty.
This is what the “elite politicians’ in innumerable countries can expect at some point in the future. They live in such a bubble they think they are immune. This time they won’t be. Everyone knows what they did and the worst is yet to come.
The Democrat Party and Republican Party are very JEALOUS of President Trump. They know President Trump was the BEST President ever.
Not a single justice wondered allowed why we would trust a profit-making company’s motives in telling people their product is safe while not submitting all their collected data.
There are only two companies in the US actually competing right now, Moderna and Pfitzer and it serves the interests of both of them not to speak ill of the other.
I realize the guy arguing against the Federal mandate was trying to stick to the question of state and locality v. Feds, but he didn’t have to let the libs walk all over him about the efficacy of the vaccine.
He is part of our problem.
You conveniently forget that, if they back this “profit-making company’s” scheme, they profit personally.
I think the whole argument regarding “vaccine efficacy” or not is a red herring.
Stick to the issue – does OSHA have the authority to do what it’s trying to do or not?
So I agree with you – I did not hear this part of the hearing – the guy arguing against the mandate should have shut down any discussion as to efficacy – irrelevant to the question.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2022/01/07/supreme-court-justices-spew-misinformation-during-arguments-on-bidens-vaccine-mandate-n2601558
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I listened. It was shocking and disheartening. The Justices make it sound like we’re under nuclear attack. All the hysterical “people will die” talking points — and little to nothing from the lawyers countering any of these broad statements. Which, IMO, they could have mentioned as an aside.
they are dogs in a cage. with limited feedback from society.
outhousecounsel: Ugh. This “people will die” nonsense bearing in the question at hand. None. People will die driving cars, too. And smoking. And sitting in chairs while reading a book.
From the comments so far looks like the Supreme Corrupt Court will side with ChiCom Joe and allow the mandates? If that is the right take? My question is what happens then/next? Will enough unvaccinated essential workers quit/be fired rather than be forced to be vaccinated to tank the economy? Will civil disobedience take hold and We The People just refuse to comply with the mandates? I’m retired but it will effect my unvaccinated son and DIL. This tyranny of forcing people to take an experimental mRNA shot to keep a job/to work isn’t Constitutional no matter a Court ruling in favor of forced mandates! My guess Lawfare has already drafted opinions for the leftists on the Court! I’m getting the vapors just thinking of what could happen! God help us! Hosanna!
You should probably check the accuracy percentage of the posters here before you get to far into the vapors.
😂 So true! But I don’t have a lot of confidence in the new members of the Court to rule based on the Constitution! It seems the Court is more interested in how their opinions are received by the DC/NYC ruling elites and corrupt msm! I’m just trying to prepare myself! I do pray that a majority will not support ChiCom Joe’s mandates! But what if they don’t?
Keep your powder dry…..
i predict the goalpost and red lines will move ever so quickly.
The Jan 6 propaganda with insurgent and terrorist labeling isn’t about elections. They know they are going totalitarian and are setting up language to pacify your woke relatives why they had to kill you. Unfortunately they will probably nod in agreement.
America’s Frontline Doctors File Brief in the Supreme Court Case to be Heard Today on Biden’s COVID-19 Vaccine Mandate for Health Care Workers at Facilities Receiving Federal Funding
ncxplant: I appreciate their standing up for their beliefs, but, they need to lose the white coats. I would better trust them wearing camo.
Real Heroes.
^^^^^^^ A female caseworker, stabbed to death.
I know one who is short, 200lbs, and no way to ever protect herself, outside of a gun, which of course, she doesn’t carry.
That is awful, just awful.
They do have to go into dangerous situations at times.
Prayers.
“…no higher calling”….than….keeping children safe?
So Illinois doesn’t allow abortion.
That’s very good news.
/SARC
zephyrbreeze: Pravda could not have written a better press release.
Well this sounds promising (NOT!). SC justices spew misinformation about covid.
https://therightscoop.com/lefist-supreme-court-justices-spew-misinformation-about-covid/
These justices (small j) have no idea how explosive will be the effects should they rule in favour of these mandates. How tens of thousands of lives of families will be decimated. And I don’t believe that word is hyperbolic.
That they are pig ignorant on any of what is being presented is undeniable. That they have no clue of reality outside their academic word manipulating bubble is obvious. This is just an intellectual exercise for them. They are exempt from taking these life destroying poisons.
I have 2 children in the line of fire. Not unlike millions of others. I pray for all whose economic livelihoods are in peril. And I pray for our country’s last chance with this decision. Tyranny is knocking. The door must not be opened.
Knocking? I do believe he door has been swung open and the brainwashed masses have welcomed it in with open arms.
True, but I was referencing the door of the Supreme Court. They hold the box of matches ready to finally torch the Constitution as written.
what do they need to care about such “explosive”ness? the only thing that will move the imperial palaces on the potomac is the ruin and chaos being brought to their own doorstep.
yours, not so much.
Quite shocking, the stupidity on display by the highest court in the land. I’m on record here, at CTH, that this country is now Venezuela. I continue to standby by my assertion. And I can tell you it’s only going to get worse (unless we can sweep the House and the Senate in 2022–and I mean veto-proof majorities, and then take back the WH in 2024).
Absolutely mind boggling that they are on the verge of crippling and destroying the United States Economy and workforce over complete lies about the vaccine stopping transmission.
i again have to wonder what all these “lies” have anything to do with ruling on the constitution. Its remarkable that evne on this page, we’ve spent hundreds of comments, now, lamenting how they didn’t bring up the right “facts” about COVID.
the only fact we need to know is that our sovereign rights are inviolable in the constitution. death rates, effectiveness of the drugs, and so on – are IRRELEVANT.
World Council for Health calls for immediate Stop of Covid-19 Experimental “Vaccines”
Declaration:
“The World Council for Health declares that it is time to put an end to this humanitarian crisis. Further, the Council also declares that any direct or indirect involvement in the manufacturing, distribution, administration and promotion of these injections violates basic principles of common law, constitutional law and natural justice, as well as the Nuremberg Code, the Helsinki Declaration, and other international treaties.”
Link to article: World Council for Health Calls for an Immediate Stop to the Covid-19 Experimental “Vaccines”
https://worldcouncilforhealth.org/campaign/covid-19-vaccine-cease-and-desist/#full
This seems to be a significant development . . .
I’ll bet you will LOVE this (not)
https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-01-07-gmo-foods-will-now-be-bioengineered.html
FTA
GMO foods will now be labeled “bioengineered” under — ironically — “new food disclosure rules” in the U.S. that took effect on New Year’s Day, because renaming something that has long been associated with negative outcomes is only called “disclosure” by a globalist deep state.
Which probably also means any substance can be added to our foods. That’s the way I read it. And what would those be I wonder. The possibilities are truly terrifying.
Russell Brand gave a pretty good overview of this recently. In a nutshell, it sounds as if globalists looking to control the food supply are going to build on how vaccines were ushered in due, in part, to the ripping away of normal regulations. So that set a precedent they plan to use.
They really really want everyone to partake.
It’s all about safety don’tchaknow?
https://thenewamerican.com/edible-vaccines-ca-scientists-developing-mrna-vaccine-producing-plants/
I banned all gmo foods from my home years ago. Even “Bisquick” has gmo ingredients, so does Halloween candy! Just about everything that is a processed food has gmo ingredients. The food they feed animals is gmo food. That’s why it’s so important to grow/raise your own if you can or find local small farmers and ranchers that you can ask before you buy. My planned garden this year is 10,000 sq ft. I pray it’s successful.
After listening to the oral arguments of both cases I have to agree with this tweet from covid clarity:
“The Supreme Court’s clear lack of understanding of the covid situation and realities is sobering.
It reveals a glum reality.
We are living in a world of false perceptions.
Facts are being muted by storylines.
Truth is wilting under the duress of dogmatic thought.”
Term limits for SCOTUS -why keep RGB like cadavers on the Supreme Court? SCOTUS should also be an elected position – good enough for the President its good enough for them.
I did not listen to the oral arguments, but I have read many comments, threads and other social media accounts of the insipidly stupid questions and, or, statements made by various justices about cases, hospitalizations, etc, but i have not read a single comment about constitutional questions asked or raised.
Did the Constitution of the United States even come up?? I am seriously asking. I haven’t found a single word about the constitutional basis for the OSHA mandate.
Please, someone??
Red-pilled public school teacher…
People keep speaking up about totalitarian coercion and the totalitarians couldn’t care less.
Treepers, I read here all the time but rarely post. Guess I am asking for a little commiseration today. People talk about what’s happening in the blue states of California and New York all the time, but you don’t hear much about the smaller blue states like my home, New Mexico. MAGA has no power here (Dem majorities in both legislative bodies, draconian Dem governor) and almost no voice.
Dems have recently gerrymandered the federal Congressional districts to make it nearly impossible for anyone other than a Dem to win (we presently have two Dem and one Republican reps and two Dem senators). Now today, this linked article was on the front page of the Albuquerque paper. Dems are going all in on election “reforms.” 16 year olds and felons to vote, ballots for days after the election, permanent absentee ballots, no state ID required to register, etc.
I can only hope that this is an overreach, but sadly I doubt it. Praying continues!!
16-year-olds could vote in local elections under new bill
https://abqjournal-nm.newsmemory.com/?publink=075fb428c_13482ef
I hope Scott Presler is reading your post.
The western states have been ruined by George Soros who bought both the R’s and D’s 30 years ago IMO. I feel your despair too.
Sad fact: Many people migrating out of California and into southern “red states” tell one another to drive straight through New Mexico and not spend a night there due to their politics. This must hurt New Mexico. I had the best sopapillas of my life in New Mexico.
RML: These are these the reasons my family escaped ALB and NM last year, saw the writing on the wall. Not many MAGA ‘s in NM. NM will always be a blue state especially if the 16 Y.O.s and felons (which are very plentiful in NM) can vote. The little midget dictator in the gov office is an evil woman.
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You should ask that one Senator (MH) who is handling him now that his benefactor, Harry Reid, is dead . . .
Supreme Court seems skeptical of Biden’s vaccine mandates
https://www.axios.com/supreme-court-skeptical-biden-vaccine-mandates-a56b8560-babf-4cdf-982a-fb7e3fa836da.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_content=politics-vaxmandate
After her inaccurate and intemperate remarks today, I’d imagine Sonia will be trending. I hope Tucker gives her the TREATMENT tonight.
Maybe she should resign and apply to replace Joy Reid at MsNbc.
https://redstate.com/bonchie/2022/01/07/sonia-sotomayor-loses-her-ever-loving-mind-at-oral-arguments-over-bidens-vaccine-mandate-n503133
She must be a science fiction fan. She called a human being a machine.
Welcome to the new normal: 13-year-olds dying from cardiac arrest
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/welcome-to-the-new-normal-13-year
All the interesting and intellectual voices have moved to substack. I wonder how long before that platform is attacked and censored? I try to download and save certain studies and documents so I don’t lose them forever.
https://www.brighteon.com/3b94ac61-8a45-4dd6-9890-23c6d878d433
Fifteen bodies were examined (all died from 7 days to 6 months after vaccination; ages 28 to 95). The coroner or the public prosecutor didn’t associate the vaccine as the cause of death in any of the cases. However, further examination revealed that the vaccine was implicated in the deaths of 14 of the 15 cases. The most attacked organ was the heart (in all of the people who died), but other organs were attacked as well. The implications are potentially enormous resulting in millions of deaths. The vaccines should be immediately halted.
SCOTUS is so dishonest. They know that medical and religious exemptions are being denied everywhere – they refused to hear the cases.
They know the OSHA rule makes the employer pay thousands for unvaxxed employees so they won’t give exemptions.
They know that most employers will either not offer testing at all or make the low wage workers pay – meaning that workers will either take the clot shot or starve.
If you are still unvaxxed you need to stand strong – if we break they will control every human activity for the rest of our lives via vaxx passports.
You are being too kind to SCOTUS.
They are not dishonest.
They are corrupt, anti-American Bolsheviks.
“stand strong” as in keep running away from it, hiding, avoiding, complaining, withdrawing from society?
Sotomayer’s response to that was to make herself the Fed and state that she has a right to decide how to spend her Fed money. How ignorant is this woman? Fed money is OUR MONEY. The Feds need to be… what’s the word…
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What are all the federal workers who were given carte blanch exemptions (Congress and staff, USPO, etc) going to do once they get mandated to vaccinate?
Are THEY going to consent to being mandated by the SC after their ‘boss’ (Bribem) gave them a reprieve?
I don’t think the sound logic here and appeals to the principles of the Constitution will be sufficient to change things. I don’t know where the line gets drawn or whether it happens in time. If the law of the land becomes rubber stamped totalitarianism, we all become terrorists if we disagree. This is a very sad realization.
I wouldn’t go to Australia to play tennis for the same reason I dont go to North Korea to play tennis.
If you haven’t seen it watch JD Vance trash DJT with own mouth.
Yep, saw an article the other day singing his praises.
I do not forget what you’ve linked.
He’s a fraud. Just like Oz. Josh Mandel is the real conservative choice.
When was this filmed? He is a Marine, an author of “Hilbilly Elegy”. I don’t know anythign about him, just looked him up. We need to start making clear lines of demarcation in order to take effective action to take our coutnry back
Cheer up Fort McHenry’rs
you have not lost, and there is ZERO GLOOM AND DOOM
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1) Alito gets the Fed lawyer to admit Congress has never issued a vaccine mandate before
2) Alito gets the Fed Lawyer to say she believes the OHSA Act suprecedes the Constitution with Police Powers to the State (Texas, Florida, Georgia, etc)
3) Alito gets the Fed Lawyer to say the vaccinated are at risk from the unvaccinated (underminding the vaccine use entirely)
4) Sotomayor had to slither in to make it about mask and testing, knowing the vaccine argument was dying
Find that information reported in the news, or your trusted sources… it should be there, if they were honorable.
We shall see WhiteBoard.
I have faith in the Constitutional grounding of Alito and Thomas, Gorsuch sometimes, the others not one bit.
Good analysis.
CTH is my only trusted source,