Candace Owens likely felt some need to follow up on her interview with President Trump due to overwhelming opinion of Trump’s vaccine position. Unfortunately, she attempts to reconcile President Trump’s position by casting aspersions toward him [Daily Mail Article].
Mrs. Owens reconciles President Trump’s support for the three COVID-19 vaccines by saying he’s too old to understand the troublesome vaccine information and doesn’t use the internet for his research. WATCH:
https://youtu.be/IBOk3b3BJjM
President Trump’s position on the vaccines –as a tool in the arsenal to combat the pandemic– is essentially unremarkable. Trump supports the vaccines that were developed, under the goal of providing protection for people against the SARS-CoV-2 virus, by the scientific community. However, President Trump repeatedly insists that no one should be mandated to take the vaccine.
The essential Trump position has consistently been:
‘The American and international scientific and medical establishment have determined that SARS-CoV-2 represents a significant threat to public health. In response, the United States Center for Disease Control (CDC), the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the U.S. National Institute of Health (NIH); in coordination with the World Health Organization (WHO) and various governments around the globe, have worked with scientists and pharmaceutical companies to develop vaccines to be deployed under emergency authorizations. Those vaccines are available for the American public to consider and use, if a person is worried about their health risk.’
That’s it, that’s the sum total of President Trump’s position.
Trump doesn’t feel people should be pressured, forced, coerced or mandated to take a vaccine. Nor should anyone be subject to discrimination or division based on their unique medical decision. Vaccination is an individual choice, and President Trump has said, repeatedly, he respects anyone’s decision either way, and the federal government should not be involved. From my perspective, this is non-controversial.
Additionally, despite the proclamations of many who have even written on these comment sections, this position is not only the same as Florida Governor ¹Ron DeSantis, but also identical.
Again, position encapsulated: “Here’s what the professionals who work for your federal government have come up with, use them as you see beneficial to yourself and your family.”
In addition to the vaccine development approach, in 2020 President Trump authorized the U.S. medical community to work collaboratively to immediately provide therapeutic options and antibody treatments as tools and resources for doctors and infected patients to use in treatment.
Critics of President Trump have argued that the former president should now be taking a strong position in opposition to the vaccines as a result of new information which undermines the original efficacy of them. The vaccines now require boosters, and the vaccines do not stop the spread of infection, ergo they are useless or potentially worse, might cause harm.
Despite these issues, the position of the United States government has not changed, and all of the previous U.S. medical institutions who advised on the original approach toward vaccination against the pandemic have not reversed their position. Those are the current decision makers for public health, not Donald Trump.
The public ire directed toward President Trump would be more appropriately targeted toward the professionals in the scientific and medical establishment who are in the current position to make a modification or reversal in their approach.
There are many people using hindsight to criticize President Trump saying: with revelations over the past two years the entire U.S. medical establishment no longer holds credibility. However, at the time those original pandemic mitigation decisions were made, and President Trump activated a Cornavirus Taskforce led by Vice President Mike Pence, how many American people really understood the political nonsense happening deep inside the CDC, FDA and NIH?
It’s fair to say almost no one knew how corrupt those institutions of U.S. public health were at the time when the first concerns of the COVID virus were raised. Similarly, few people knew how corrupt the FBI and U.S. intelligence apparatus was in 2016 when those institutions were spying on and targeting candidate Trump. Most of the identified revelations of historic corruption surface only as a result of investigations after the fact.
Approximately two-thirds of the American population have taken the vaccine shot(s), and a large number of them are currently in the process of getting boosters. We can only imagine what would happen if the U.S. government was to officially state the vaccinations are now determined to be detrimental in some manner or form. That’s why it is certain, regardless of the danger or lack thereof from the vaccination itself, the U.S. government will never, ever, reverse course on their claims of vaccine safety, or even value.
Expecting some entity or individual in the United States to be capable of forcing the United States government, or any medical institution within it, to admit they are potentially harming the public – is an exercise in futility. It will never happen. Ever. That Rubicon was crossed well over a year ago.
We are now at the point where the FDA is authorizing, under emergency use processes, just about anything the medical establishment tells them to authorize. Which, understandably, has resulted in even fewer people participating in anything the FDA, CDC and NIH come up with.
Is the COVID-19 virus, or any iteration of a variant therein, likely no worse than a severe flu strain? The answer to that has always been, maybe. When you layer on sunlight showing how political the FDA, CDC & NIH institutions are, the answer shifts to ‘more than likely.’ However, we are operating now with a hindsight that was not available before, and even now data is still kept from the overwhelming majority of the American people, and Big Tech has been instructed to do exactly that.
Candace Owens reconciles President Trump’s position by saying, “he’s old” and “he doesn’t use the internet for his own research.” To me that is not only curt and ridiculous, that position shows me Mrs. Owens does not understand the importance of the stable mindedness needed for success at the scale of a United States president.
I said at the early phase of the COVID fear and pandemic rising how we were fortunate to have Donald Trump in the White House, because his general disposition is to permit individual states and individual people to make their own decisions.
At a time, when COVID panic was at its apex, Trump could have gone full totalitarian dictator, and few would have flinched. But he didn’t… instead he urged calm and told the American people to act prudently, but do not allow fear to overcome us.
All of the issues around vaccines are related to scientific and medical community practices. Neither Donald Trump or Ron DeSantis is a scientist or a doctor, and they can only rely upon the opinions, suggestions and recommendations provided to them by experts in these fields.
It is one thing for you and me to have research-based opinions on vaccines that may or may not align with scientific consensus. It is another kettle-o-fish entirely for Donald Trump to have an opinion, where his public statements are weighted toward national policy for public health.
I specifically remember when President Trump told us from the White House podium that the media-driven hype over the COVID-19 “was a hoax,” and the industrial media complex, along with both sides of the political spectrum and the total scientific medical community, blasted him for downplaying the SARS-CoV-2 risk.
From where I sit, given the scale of what has taken place, President Trump’s current position is stable and non-controversial. Essentially, here’s the vaccine tools they say will help, decide for yourself.
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[¹] It is noted there’s a strong correlation between Ted Cruz supporters 2016 and many current Ron DeSantis promoters in 2021.
The virus is out there. The vaccines provide some protection, but also cause some harm. This is true of all vaccines. In general, the protection outweighs the harm, so vaccines, in general, are “good,” despite some harms, and even deaths. It’s in the statistics.
What is terribly wrong here, as documented fulsomely in RFK, Jr’s book, is that this virus was engineered by the the same people running basic medical research for the US, with billions of our tax dollars, in league with DOD’s BARDA, with the CCP, the NWO, with Bill Gates, the pharmaceutical industry, and Mark f***ing Zuckerberg. Moreover, this evil cabal unleashed a pandemic in order to 1) make lots of money for the insiders, 2) and trigger the Great Reset, as cover for an era of totalitarian Globalism.
The statistics have been cooked, and treatment protocols have been distorted, to maximize profits. But that doesn’t mean the vaccines don’t offer protection for many.
RFK doesn’t touch the fact that that all these people have also sold out to the CCP, are fine with today’s slave labor and today’s human trafficking, as long as they can moralize against the great-great grandchildren of those who exploited the same 200 years ago.
President Trump knew he was dealing with engrained corruption. He initiated a process that has incrementally revealed that corruption to an ever-growing portion of the country and world. But he didn’t prevent, despite holding the Executive Power of the United States, the greatest assault on our constitution in our history. History is in the balance.
I am thankful for President Trump, for Candace Owens, for Sundance and TCTH, for Breitbart and Gateway Pundit, for Epoch Times, for Governors DeSantis, Abbott and Noem, for all the state AGs who are standing up for the sovereign rights of states, for Mike Lindell, for Sidney Powell and Patrick Deep Capture. I am grateful for the RFK, Jr., Naomi Wolfe, Alan Dershowitz, and other died in the wool liberals who have called foul on their teammates.
But we need further leadership to steer the ship of state through these troubled waters, to silence the Sophists intent on destroying our society, to resist the globalists, to shame those who sell out our nation for Chinese lucre, to punish those who would manipulate our markets and money into a negative sum game where they can buy everyone else out at ten cents on the dollar, to dismantle the crippling burden of excessive government control over liberty and free enterprise, to deflate the “green” impulse to destroy the US and European economies so that China, without any constraint at all on Carbon emissions, can capture all of manufacturing.
Where will that leadership come from?
LOL not only was PDJT arrayed against impossible odds but he has doubters like you looking for any perceived “errors” to turn on him…as they say “with friends like you…..”…not only did he accomplish a myriad of tasks but HE REVEALED all these enemies of whom you speak and their opposition to HIM continues to reveal them more every day…quit being a lemming and stand on your own
Dr. Robert Malone – On ‘Science’ and Controversy : Dec. 25
A very good read. And its not in technical doctor-speak.
@RWMaloneMD
rwmalonemd.substack.com
COVfefe.
Dang now I want some. ☕️☕️☕️☕️☕️
As long as it’s the Moronic, maybe with a side of Ivermectin.
Bye Felicia… uhh… I mean Candace.
she will reset, once she realizes thats not blood in the water.
Any connection between the Timing of this interview with Candace, and the Biden campaign giving praise to Trump in his support of the vaccine finding mutual understanding (in their words/world).
Now she comes out with this hit piece after Biden and company crowed on their common ground
Candace Owens is a grifter. Ties with Ben Shapeshifter, and working for Ted Cruz. A deep dive on teddy’s past, mother, father, etal. Most likely Born in Canada, I did a very deep dive into Ted a few years back. Tedster is one of those who smile like the Joker, from his college days he has become a very skilled actor.
Bad Moon rising perhaps. Somethings afoot.
how do you decide to take a vaccine or not? you say no or yes.
BIG PICTURE which is always #1 in Trump Think :
So somewhere between 70-99 % of voters are already vaccinated. If President Trump’s base of support is people over 40 then 8 out of 10 of them are not offended by his recent statements regarding vaccination.
Exactly 💯
President Donald Trump is keeping his eyes 👀 on the prize 🏁
We must also.
Excellent. Thank you!
let me guess these are “official numbers”…if that data was correct the DS would not be pushing the VAX so hard
Those numbers are from USA Facts dot org. As noted they represent people who have had at least one vaccination. Those with multiple shots, considered fully vaccinated, show numbers running about 20% lower. For instance California claims 82/65 overall, and that includes 5-yr olds on up; while Georgia shows 60/50. New Hampshire claims 96/66 whereas the Texas numbers are 66/56.
I’m not buying those inflated numbers one bit.
Have we not learned to be circumspect and suspicious of every bit of ‘official’ data? Especially when they conveniently support the big lie?
Wow those are interesting numbers. I must know all the 65 to 85 year olds that haven’t become a GMO.
These numbers really aren’t accurate IMO. Even the UK now admits around 30% are unvaxxed and they’ve been saying they are 90% or more for months.
It’s also amazing they’d be pushing the unvaxxed so hard to the point of creating concentration camps for them if rates were this high.
It’s also amazing they’d be pushing the unvaxxed so hard to the point of creating concentration camps for them if rates were this high.
That’s thinking a tad too logically. 😆
Actually if you examine how the globalarchs feel (they rarely think), it’s more likely in my opinion that a 90% number only hardens their resolve.
Remember, they all buy the insane fantasy of ZERO COVID. When they see a number like 90%, they simply think “Only 10% to go! Let’s do camps now and we’ll be done!”
The current POTUS is DJT, and the greatest POTUS EVER! Naysayers cannot change my mind! They lose, we win!
Since I became a follower of Sundance and this site some years ago I was, and still am , confounded by his uncanny instincts to unmask the never Trumpers and peer deeper than most into the swamp.
Also during this time Sundance has never, ever had anything but total support for President Trump and MAGA.
As I’ve often said, if in doubt, follow the advice of Sundance.
As simple as that.
Coup plotter’s bot Swarm alert!!!!!!
The swarming of the commie, coup plotters bots has been sighted coming out of the dc area and some of their silos in chinnnna.
Sighting have also been seen coming out of the NeverTrump barracks housing all kinds of coup plotters.
The word is finally getting around to the commie, covid cells that they have lost the war months ago.
They are not a bunch of happy campers and are acting like a bunch of Delta Karens….. striking out in all directions.
MAGAs have the numerical, economic, moral, intellect and armed majorities in America.
And we have the best leader, President Trump.
If you are MAGA, you are on the winning side.
“Let’s go Brandon!”
To quote a great man.
They are not sending their best”
What a condescending and judgmental statement by Owens. How does she know? And to say that he is old. Then why did you interview him Candace if he is old? What a snob.
another question.
is why in the hell would she take that risk? its completely unecessary. who is directing this crap. (purchasing)
” who is directing this crap”?
After pennnnncccccceee, and this late in 2021, after you have seen creepy joe’s disasters,
if you are not 100% MAGA, you are a coup plotter.
Own it.
“Let’s go Brandon!”
👌👍It’s the logical conclusion.
President Donald Trump is the only true effective national MAGA candidate (and true President).
All else are diversions to the prize 🏁
There’s an old saying in Hollywood… “Any publicity is GOOD publicity.”
Obviously, this applies social media as well.
Name recognition is #1.
lo, Small nit, it is Democrat states, there is nothing Democratic about them.
Was 14 days to slow the spread, then 30 days.
No mask, save it for the health care providers, then everyone needs to wear them. Stay 6 ft apart, Europe is 6.5 ft apart(2 meters).
With PDJT in office and America first policies, with other nations, worldwide following. Build locally, not outsourced. Wages raising in Main Street, not Wall Street.
This tossed a large spanner into the Globalists plans. Causing them to go awry.
Hence the plandemic that shut down the world economy. A plandemic with 97% plus survival rate.
The vaxxed was the only way to get the US and the world out of lockdown.
An added bonus was to reveal the infestation of the Globalists in most if not all bureaucracies worldwide.
Sorry for the ranting, have issues with all the after the fact quarterbacks.
Exactly 💯
This is embarrassing. How this comment got down here, have no idea. This was a response to “lo” further up. Oh well.🤔🤔🙄
It would be a political mistake for Trump to take a position the vaccines are dangerous. People who are mad at him for not saying the vaccines are killing people either can’t game out what would happen next OR they have games it out and are trying to goad Trump into a position that would be political suicide. Trump can’t “expose” anything as an outsider. He MAY be able to bring transparency and accountability from inside the WH. His current position is the right one IMHO
What troubled me was that he said no one has died from the vaccines and that they were safe.
Both statements were absolutely untrue.
And his approval of these vaccines will convince others they are OK. That is unconscionable.
Find a bridge to live under yet? Maybe you can ask President Trump to give you car buying advice or have him fix your kayak? Think for yourself.
Exactly right!
touching this:
“Critics of President Trump have argued that the former president should now be taking a strong position in opposition to the vaccines as a result of new information which undermines the original efficacy of them. The vaccines now require boosters, and the vaccines do not stop the spread of infection, ergo they are useless or potentially worse, might cause harm.
Despite these issues, the position of the United States government has not changed, and all of the previous U.S. medical institutions who advised on the original approach toward vaccination against the pandemic have not reversed their position. Those are the current decision makers for public health, not Donald Trump.”
There is a political dimension that is very real that needs to be addressed here…
President Trump CAN present an updated, and accurate assessment about mRNA to Americans. He is a particularly unique and powerful position beyond any other person on planet earth to make that stand.
But this must also be balanced with reality about the prospects of his political career and what this means to the nation that he truly desires to serve and protect.
Should the President alter his position, and begin making accurate truthful comments about MRNA, he will LOSE quite a few voters from his base. he will lose these voters because they did, for better or for worse, make decisions about the jab based on warp speed and the suggestions (some refer to as threading the needle) that he has made and continues to make. These are very real voters for trump and ANY backpeddling from Trump announcing any kind of warning or alerts to the dangers of mRNA will surely cause widespread panic and stress..that gets played out not ONLY in his own political career but will also erode his political influence and support he sends to other candidates (2022).
so there IS A VERY REAL COST to his political power if he backpedals.
as in life, even doing the right thing, has a consequence.
it boils down to doing the right thing, even KNOWING the consequences if doing the right thing is that you will march yourself right out of the long game. Sure, you can do the right thing., but one cannot escape the laws of consequences.
save some lives, but lose all your political power….ending any serious run for office, or worse ending up pulling a ross perot and handing the dems a victory in a silver platter? What is the acceptable number of deaths one is willing to assume if the message is untruthful about mRNA harm? 1000? 10000? 50? 2? How does one make that judgement? This is where christian leadership is paramount. This is a GOD ISSUE.
the state and no man is GOD! President’s Trump’s DUTY FIRST AND FUNDAMENTAL IS THE PROTECTION OF US CITIZENS….PERIOD. All the long game and politics do not have any meaning if the way you achieved it was by dismissing the harm of your rhetoric. Make no mistake, propping mRNA AND NOT SPEAKING UP CLEARLY ABOUT THE HARM FROM IT, is exactly HOW you end up indirectly CAUSING THE DEATH OF MANY. Make no mistake about this.
or you thread the needle, understanding with clear eyes, that there is a greater agenda to be served? To save a nation from ruin? To reshape a nation and restore it back to some sense of decency and normalcy? Bring that fire back to the economic engine and get it up in solid running order for the long term?
what IS the higher moral obligation? the long term prospect of righting this sinking ship and saving potentially millions upon millions of lives by alerting people to the dangers of mRNA but that also might only be achievable by threading the needle and potentially at least that same number of lives are lost or harmed to mRNA by not taking a stand?
backpeddle and introduce a seriously complex and confusing volume that entirely contradicts the prior position?
Does anyone understand the actual real world response to this? This is why we cannot stand hillary clinton…or biden..or obama…not only were their policies failures and frauds, but they constantly shifted their messages and position on very important issues for PURELY POLITICAL SELF SERVING REASONS WITH ZERO LONG GAME STRATEGIES THAT PUT AMERICA IN A GOOD POSITION.
President Trump DISTINGUISHES HIMSELF well away from this corrupt crowd by remaining TRUE to a message and position…And yes, there is some political blowback for not being correct. And yes, there may even be some lives lost that is attibutable to this bad form but politically necessary stand. But it IS consistency that win the hearts and minds. Consistency. it should be right from the get go, but when it isn’t, you take a very big gamble that doing the right thing and shifting your messaging will cost you and the national goals you are pursuing …and flushing them right down the toilet.
save some lives by telling the truth and then summarily getting marched right off the field…never to been seen again in the same light and never having any chances of success to fulfill these very critically important long term fix solutions to the USA?
I don’t know the answer. But I understand the weighty decisions.
But we do know one thing: if President Trump is to run himself and to continue in the interim as a shaper and influencer for other politicos, will require a masterful zero luck deliberate and clear consistent message.
he has already lost “some” voters on this vaccine push talk. But he has also gained a considerable number of mod dems who are having full on vote regret with biden (protip: there are millions and millions of dems who refuse to take this shot..and even more of them that are severely harmed by these insane mandates and economic penalties and lockdowns…so I have a pretty good intuition that quite a number of dems, moderates, would be motivated to pull the vote for trump…and shifting his view and opinions and backing to match the reality of mRNA would do well to draw these “opposition” voters. It is true there is a different tide right now. People are very weary and confused with this mRNA stank. None of sounds right. it’s been a nightmare in policy and mandates. And the conversation about mRNA harm is non-existent and forbiden. This IS precisely the environment that Trump has proven he can find success.
at the end of the day, President Trump has to make a decision if this is the hill he want to battle. If he choices no battle and continues to peddle the mRNA even with his clever thread the needle strategy…it is unimpressive and that is being noticed.
his supporters and those looking for a way out of covid, mRNA and this jackass biden,need President Trump to pull his cuffs down, straighten his jacket, adjust his tie, look straight into the camera and tell the truth.
and IF he does not know the truth or is confused about mRNA harm…then I suggest clearly, he is not a candidate I can support.
secondly, there IS a distinction between DeSantis and Trump. A very big distinction.
desantis did not launch warp speed
desantis has never been the president of the united states
finally,
As it stand right now, the calculus that MUST be discussed is very cold and very stark:
Does the moral duty of saving a nation and restoring the republic (by getting elected and doing those things), exceed the cost of some lives lost because the message about mRNA TRUTH was avoided and made intentionally vague?
it’s a very difficult decision to make.
Here is my response to that very important decision:
this takes care of two key requirements for a morally duty bound christian president.
you are obedient to God in handling the most awesome responsibility that WILL impact the lives of billions!
you are morally duty bound as a public servant OF THE PEOPLE, to be open and clear about changes in views and positions.
if you do the regular potomac two step, you are bound to follow the legacy of obama, clinton, biden and their ilk..
President Trump may not be capable of doing these things. I have no reason to believe he is not capable of a strong christian relationship with God. I do have reasons to suspect that he might not be willing or even capable of repositioning his stand on mRNA safety. He seems to have taken the double down. Multiple times over a prolonged period with what appears to be an ever-increasing cheerleading about mRNA. That is at complete odds with facts about MRNA.
at some point, even if President Trump does not accept this, his future political power will be determined based on how he threads this needle.
Best post I’ve read today.
Thank you
Said the troll to the troll ….
Agree.
Trolls unite!
You wouldn’t know a troll if he/she walked up and slapped your face.
As it is their system in place.
Very intelligent response. Name calling makes everyone aware of who is really the troll. Shame on you,your hateful comments are not helping
Don’t get offended but, when a comment contains more writing than the actual written, I get a case of the scrollthru flu.
No offense taken.
Imo the lack of reading and research for one’s self has created this entire situation we are in right now. The “scrollthru flu” you speak of is running rampant in our world and is a serious problem. The willingness of people to allow others to tell them what the truth is instead of finding the truth and thinking for themselves has created the true pandemic we have now, The Pandemic of Ignorance. I sincerely hope you do not allow yourself to become one of its many victims.
Excellent! And SPOT ON.
MAGA is Trump. We are blessed this Christmas Day to have this great man on our side.
I fail to see where there is a distinction between the position of Desantis and PDJT other than the governor never having had to make the decisions the PRESIDENT did…some people are just noncommital and so have turned into WEAK NeverTrumpers in the process looking for ANY excuse to denounce PDJT and announce to the world they are now against PDJT and all he is and has done…it all comes down to who is worse?….the enemy who announces his intentions from the start of the smiling “ally” waiting to plunge the dagger into your back
Troll, I agree with Sundance.
Ned listen to an old grandma for a minute I’ve lived a long time and I have some advice
watch what people do and say. Words mean things. They carry a lot of weight especially with people who are influenced by leaders who they look up to and hang on every word they say…
I don’t care how many times President Trump says he is against mandates that should be a given if you believe in any semblance of personal freedom…
when people who listened to EVERY word of this Candace Owens interview know that the disagreement stemmed not from the mandate but from the factual harm and death ( I know ) and damage this shot has done … what Trump says and advises matters to thousands of people He is a big influencer…
He said people in hospitals were the unvaccinated … not true
that the shot keeps you from getting covid. Not true
best thing ever happened. Not
He thinks you oughta take it. NO
I have seen personally what this shot does
Bottom line the controversial part is the unwillingness to not recommend something that would cause harm to anyone even if it was a minuscule chance..but we have facts that prove it does cause harm
Once again I pray that Our Heavenly Father will open President Trumps heart and eyes and he will seek wisdom in this situation I don’t want anyone else to take this shot based on someone’s advice and reap the tragic consequences.
We pray for Trump every day and for our Nation that GOD in his unfailing Love and mercy will see us through this and bring a revival of such we have never seen to this nation …
that we will fall on our knees as the CHRISTmas song says ( Oh Holy Night) and all glory and honor be to HIM
And JESUS said peace I leave with you: My peace not as the world giveth,give I unto you
One of the Gifts of the Spirit is Discernment. President Trump isn’t your doctor and you need to do your own homework.
For some reason after I posted this I went back to treehouse to see any new articles posted today
This was just a few minutes ago .. I was then put on notice that I had been having unusual acitivity on this website and CTH gave me a wierd looking code to put in before proceeding.
I am stunned I have never experienced something like this
I have now deleted CTH and I am writing this accessing CTH from protrumpnews.com
Ive certainly enjoyed my time here but at this point I think it best if I move on.
GOD truly bless you all Grammy850
I haven’t received notice or or a “code”, Grammy, but my several posts to this thread wherein I state my opinion that Trump should stop advising folks to take the poison clot-shots have all been deleted.
UPDATE: Grammy, again reading through the thread, I find that the several folks that posted agreement with my comments also had their posts deleted.
Thought that would never happen here on CTH, but obviously, I was mistaken.
How many hospitals are over run by Unvaxxed Illegals? It’s always been a problem . I can only imagine after Biden removed PresidentTrump’s work and progress made at the border, and Biden threw open our borders, that the unvaxxed illegals are overwhelming ERs and hospitals.
Yes- it will be TRUE the unvaxxed ( illegals) are abusing our system, ERs , and hospitals.
It will come out.
Thank you Grammy 850 for this clarity and honesty.
1st, I am 75, lived a long life, traveled, and am surviving many hereditary diseases that should have taken me long ago.
Because of pressure from my Primary Dr. , my husband and I got the 1st 2 Moderna shots. Hoping that would be the end of it.
We have a brilliant relative with many degrees, who is the Senior Compliance Officer between our FDA and a huge foreign Pharma company. Even though their drugs have gone through years of rigorous trials in their country,, they have to comply with the tests here by our FDA.
With chemistry as her primary degrees, and 15 years in this position, she KNOWS, you cannot, and do not rush drugs to market without many COMPLETED studies employing multitudes of peoples of various backgrounds, races, ages, physical differences, existing medical problems, etc;
As reported, to expedite these drugs, NONE of the COVID trials were completed because of the political and global pressures. In fact, several participants dropped out of the program, for whatever reasons, we don’t know why.
And there were NEVER any potential long term trials for comparisons with other similar drugs. Nor were any comparisons done between the benefits of vax vs. the therapeutic approaches that many doctors and nurses in the field were employing with great successes.
(Yes, those same Doctors and nurses who put their professional statistics on display, only to be ostracized and fired from political and big pharma pressures).
Simply, these drugs were rushed to market with fingers crossed.
And there has NEVER been a constructive, common sense explanation from either administration.
All we hear is take the drug, it saves lives. Or we get bogus statistics, complete lies, and NEVER hear about the millions who have died from, or are suffering from the various complications. We were forced to get a vax without long term studies.
One size does not fit all. In clothing and in dosages of drugs.
Have lives been saved? Probably. Have lives been lost from the side affects? Yes.
But rather that testing for, and punishing those who are refusing the jab, shouldn’t we we testing for those who have had the virus and have natural immunity?
A few of my relatives had the virus, survived the virus, and via their annual physical, found they have natural immunity. Yet, they are berated for not getting the jab, even though there is no need for it.
So, we have created yet another class of citizens…the naturally immune, unvaxed. They go quietly through life, head down, avoiding any discussion of Covid.
At the moment, where I live in Florida, there are more reported vaxed people with covid than unvaxed in hospitals. Go figure.
So BOTH vaxed and unvaxed are sick and hospitalized. I have not heard of any with natural immunity being hospitalized, although it may be possible, and it is not being reported.
OK, bottom line. Lack of truthful information from both sides is disgusting.
Politicians should just shut up on this subject. Many people have decided to take a chance and get the virus BECAUSE they don’t trust Government and politicians.
The picture of POTUS Trump and VPOTUS Pence standing up for and behind the murderer Fauci is hard to erase from your mind. Fauci represents a global genocidal cabal.
BTW, in a recent conversation with our Primary Care Dr., he has now decided that it is up to us whether or not to get the booster. He now sees this for what it is, and agrees, Fauci should be in jail. Many Doctors who are on the front line now are seeing and treating the side affects from these hastily produced vaxes.
They remain silent because they don’t want to lose their job. They have education loans to repay, and families to raise and support. They go along to get along. I don’t blame them.
Hopefully, those of us who were rushed into getting vaxed, won’t have future problems. But I am concerned for the younger generations who are already suffering from side effects.
And folks, please don’t compare POTUS Trump to Governor DeSantis. Two very different men.
If I had to make the choice today for whom I would support to run in 2024, my 75-year-old arthritic fingers would be hitting the donation send button for DeSantis.
Regitiger’s rant should be directed to the corrupt institutions that brought this about.
President Trump never MANDATED these vaccines but that totally escapes him. It is Bidet that MANDATED this. It is Bidet that is our current President.
President Trump was Duly Elected, Ted.
thanks for proving you have never listened to a single trump speech, rally and interview over the last 2 years…with specific focus on what he saying about mRNA RECENTLY.
its not very intelligent at conservative treehouse a room PACKED with Trump supporters who watch every single thing that he does and then attempt to astroTURD.
has it ever worked a single time in your entire life that you insult someone and expect them to find you credible?
I got big shoulders snowflake. You insult the Man of the Century you might expect some pushback. Do you need a hug?
I am actively and avidly ANTI-VAX….I am as well the SAME with both mask and VAX mandates…I do have some of the latest information and counterclaims about both but I am also more spearheaded towards the topic and need less political delicacy and acumen to present my position….PDJT has made mistakes and may move towards a more clear and accurate position in the future but to discount or abandon his efforts and leadership over this is more than just short-sighted…it is in the end DESTRUCTIVE to your preferred outcome….that you are able at a whim to post a 2k word rant on the matter displays your passion, but I find both your conclusions and recommendations unsatisfactory
We agree. His ppl don’t tell about the jabs, they could care less. It’s not bc he’s old, if he was on SM he would find this out himself. Eventually the left will start blaming him for the jabs killing and maiming ppl. He also didn’t start Operation Warp Speed, Gates, Fauci and company have been working on these for years. It’s all out there, if ppl would look and read a few books about it. Robert Kennedy Jr. would be a great start.
Very compelling comments Regitiger, I questioned as you until yesterday (see earlier comment).
“the disconnect is either excruciatingly ignorant”
Nothing about Trump is ignorant. Bragadocious…yes, at nauseam.
I hate his connections to the World Economic Forum and his daughter’s involvement. And, I don’t trust his son in laws connections to George Soros. But, Trump did disconnect from his elite world and work hard for the correction of America First policies. He drew a big, fat line in the sand against the previous Alinsky puppeteers. Recently, Trump came out and said he likes Obama. Seriously?
My instincts tell me there is so much more at play as you state. For him to reverse course now on the mRNA will cost him votes and bruise that mighty ego. I don’t think this is what holds him back. It’s more and we don’t know why.
Is there an antidote? Dr. Lee Merritt is certainly thinking there is… enough to try and help her own Dr. son who’s been brainwashed by the medical cabal. Can nitazoxanide help? We just don’t have answers yet.
Nothing will bring back the thousands who have been injured or killed by this. Trump did push therapeutics at the onset only to be snarked by Fauci/ Birx et.al… they tried to make him into a bleach pushing idiot.
God gave us free will and a sound mind. We have choices. Everyone waited anxiously for the vaccines full knowing they never even made it out of trial. It was an experiment. People made the best choice at the time for their personal conditions.
There is nothing evil about Trump. Mengele Fauci..yes.
I personally think we should reserve judgement for now… I think Trump as full on info about everything. So the question is, do you trust him or not. Be wise in your own choices and hope and pray that what we are watching is for the greater good.
Trump WAS boasting. You can get upset and name call all you want, but he was. And his ignorance of what’s going on right now is inexcusable. Refusing to see it because it means you’ll have to readjust your thinking is truly a rigid thought process.
“Does the moral duty of saving a nation and restoring the republic (by getting elected and doing those things), exceed the cost of some lives lost because the message about mRNA TRUTH was avoided and made intentionally vague?“
Thank you for this thoughtful essay. Your unflinching insistence that this question not be minimized or ignored will make many Treepers uneasy.
In broad terms, what policy matters more: the political leader’s continued well-being or risk to the leader if he uses his authority to safeguard a vulnerable or otherwise threatened polity?
I hope everyone would answer without hesitation that it is morally imperative to “deliver those that are being delivered to slaughter.” You cannot ignore a calamity without incurring a measure of guilt.
This is why missionaries answer the call to minister at leper colonies and I believe the danger to Trump is far less than that.
It is hard for a rich man to set his affections on things above but there are no pockets in shrouds and Donald Trump is an old man. It is important that he resolve this question quickly.
concur.
I would respectfully suggest, humbly, but firmly that President Trump resolve this question in WARP SPEED to be perfectly blunt.
we have a nation to save, and there is no more time to spend nickeling rhetoric politicos, trump included, that continue to ignore the reality of this current national security crisis.
He already has. He has left it up to you to decide if you want the shots or not.
He is not a doctor.
Ah some class warfare thrown in there too. LOL! President Trump took one of the vaccines and had no side effects and yes, he is a “rich man.” and ageism doesn’t help you objection.. He is sharper than men half his age. You echo Owens who I have some reservations on … .
He is no longer President and has no say over what people do. Perhaps you are not aware that we have Bidet as our President who stole the election and issuing these insane mandates. President Trump never mandated it. It was always a choice.
“Ah some class warfare thrown in there too.”
Straw man alert!!🚨
You are in cuckoo cloud land. I have no intrinsic dislike for the affluent and covet neither his position or his possessions.
As for the “ageism” trope, doesn’t this indicate that YOU believe an inherent antagonism exists between a man’s age and his accomplishments?
I never said he’s too old; I said he’s too slow. It is never too soon to do the right thing and the right course of action is to derail the Warp Speed freight train.
“President Trump took one of the vaccines and had no side effects”…
Yes he did take “A” shot. Which one?
Question. When POTUS went into Walter Reed due to this “supposed” virus, do you remember what they gave him? Remember he said he felt better almost instantly. The drug was REGEN-COV manufactured by Regeneron. It is not mRNA based but monoclonal antibody. Also, think Ron Desantis contracting with companies to circumvent the current occupants in the WH. Also consider the results Florida has had with mAb therapy.
I have seen at least 2 instances where POTUS has specifically said “Regeneron”.
Is there some “messaging going on? A very good possibility given how he constantly tells us the best is yet to come.
My thoughts, also.
Thank you. Well received and very much appreciate your interpretation.
I am very glad that you brought the Christian community and God into the discussion. Ultimately, we must all make our own choices in life, and each choice brings a consequence. Why are the pastors not educating their flock?
I would never hire President Trump as my medical advisor. I did not vote for him as chief medical officer of the USA.
You have to pick your fights. Taking on the entrenched medical establishment, including WHO, CDC, Big Pharma, and their bribed members of congress, all the backed by a corrupt media, would be futile and yield little in return. One man isn’t going to change the opinion of any in the Branch Covidian Cult.
Sundance is absolutely correct when he states none of these institutions will admit they were wrong. They, and their credibility, are on the line. The whole scam, and the resulting human and purposeful economic damage, will be exposed for those willing to see, and the ones lining up to jab their kids won’t be part of that enlightenment.
Sundance has correctly stated the position of President Trump. He has been consistent and it’s the best position for him to take. I think some of the comments at CTH on this issue are promoted by people in a different camp. I expected to see the Big Club candidate’s proxies to show up here and create dissent. I expect to see much more of it.
When I look at this, I think the reactions I’m reading and hearing regarding Trump and the vaccines is fairly straightforward. I don’t think anyone begrudges his position on the rapid facilitation of a Covid treatment nor the idea that they should be at the option of the consumer. We get this. The conflict arises when Trump continues to promote the safety and/or efficacy of the vaccines when so many corrupt elements and contrary data/studies have come to light and KEEP COMING to light almost daily. He doesn’t have to be an expert to know that mandates and lying/extreme censorship are wrong, but he won’t speak out strongly, loudly and often on that aspect. He does not condemn Fauci, Walensky, Collins and Birx for constantly revisionist policies that are always partly, if not fully wrong. They were there on his watch. He bears some responsibility to the American public to disavow these sworn leftists he didn’t bother to vet while in office. We certainly know now don’t we? He gives the CDC, FDA, NIH, etc a pass and they need to be called out. This behavior is unnerving for supporters because it’s the kind of thing that leads to corrupticrats being left in place with the return of a Trump presidency. MAGA wants the enemy and their evil deeds clearly defined and openly attacked—not continually defended against. THIS is why Governor DeSantis is so popular and a presidential contender in the minds of so much of MAGA. Offense, not defense.
Yes.
I get it . It is Trump this ,Trump that ,but than it is Governor DeSantis.Who are you kidding, not me.
Lots of fish in the uniparty.ocean
You just need the right bait.
They jump into the boat.
DeSantis has done a great job in Florida. I hope he gets re-elected so he can continue to do a great job in Florida. President Trump is not president anymore, as we all know by the Joebama dictatorship we are living in. Sundance is right, it would serve no purpose to talk against the vax at this point. Neither Trump or DeSantis are experts in this field and have to rely on corrupt “experts” that hide data, suppress death stats of the vax. At this point we individually have to use our discernment to wade through all the information out there. And sometimes we have to take it with a grain of salt.
This is a tough thing for me to reconcile. I don’t know if President Trump himself even watched some of the 8 hour long September FDA advisory panel meeting stating the high rate of adverse events with these vaccines. To be silent on such matters to me seems either duplicitous or ignorant. Which is it?
I can see Candace trying to make excuses, I see that myself with people of that generation that I know. My husband’s mother, she doesn’t understand why we didn’t get the vaccine and neither does this friend of my deceased parents. I couldn’t hardly explain to either what is going on because I also don’t want to scare them. But this friend of my parents, she said last month she wasn’t going to get the booster and then a few days ago, said she went into Kroger complaining why she has to wait to get the booster, so she got one that day. Then she says, “That’s it, I’m done, and I’m not doing it again.” Yeah, right.
It is hard to argue with older people about it because at their age, I don’t know what’s best for them to risk taking it or not. And with what I’ve been doing for myself and my family, I can’t see many people taking all of these things we have been taking to get through Covid, it’s not just a dose of ivermectin a day. It’s pills throughout the day, plus other mixtures of stuff. It’s like a job. Some things work best on an empty stomach, like Vitamin C, Querctin, Zinc, NAC, some are best taken with food, like the IVM, fat soluble vitamins, etc.
My husband’s mother, who is a widow, says, I’m old, let them experiment on me. My parents’ friend doesn’t understand or doesn’t retain what I have told her of what is wrong with the vaccine and how it’s hurt many people.
The fortunate thing is, I don’t know of anyone who has had an adverse reaction and I hope I don’t in the future. So those who haven’t, will not understand.
I really don’t know what’s up with President Trump, but Senator Ron Johnson has put out enough information, including round tables of those who have been hurt by the vaccines, that he can’t play ignorant for much longer.
The only thing I can think of is the power of Big Pharma. I don’t know how that bodes for Sen Johnson and others who have been speaking out about the damages from the vaccine as well as the thwarting of effective early treatment of long used drugs.
President Trump did speak of HCQ, but hasn’t in a very long time. And hasn’t since studies have come out justifying HCQ. And he has not said a word about ivermectin as far as I know, and the Frontline doctors have said he received it along with the Regeneron. Frontline doctors say most of Congress is taking IVM for Covid.
It really is a conspiracy.
I do not think he is running again, so mute point,
“I don’t know how that bodes for Sen Johnson”
https://clouthub.com/v/cd6e6835-6e34-4077-a550-bd867bc546bf
The thing people don’t understand is that this is NOT about health. This is about sovereignty. People have GOT to understand that. Once they force you to take a bodily injection you don’t want, you are no longer free.
Next it can be anything. How baby kids you’re allowed to have. How much money you can earn, what foods you’re allowed to eat, the car you drive, the list is endless, up to, where, when, how, and Who you want to worship. If a vaxxed person tries to protest against it, they can just say, but you already gave in on the injection. You have to give in on this too.
He just said Regeneron the other day, therapeutics the week before that.
He took HCQ briefly early on, but regeneron and more when he had covid.
-Regeneron Antibody Cocktail Approved by European Commission to Treat and Prevent COVID-19 (11/12/2021)
investor.regeneron.com/news-releases
I agree, and have been making this argument in various forms, for some time now.
PDJT also, early on said “Hydrochloriquine” and thereby got that word out, no doubt despite strong objections from Fauci and Birx.
I don’t begrudge DeSantis, PDJT or any politician who speaks against MANDATES, while saying the Vax should be an individual choice.
Thing is, even though the Vax IS under an EAU, and many are NOW educating themselves about the FDA approval process, the process has been corrupt for MANY years, and it hasn’t been that difficult to be aware of.
WE, by our willfull ignorance, to some degree allowed, even by inattention and inactivity in opposition, ENCORAGED the corruption of our institutions, whether it be FDA, and Medical provider systems, or FBI and DOJ.
And now WE get angry, at the Man single handedly responsible for EXPOSING the rampant institutional corruption, so that ALL are forced to see it, ….?
Talk about shooting the messenger!
I don’t believe that anyone is perfect but Donald Trump was as close to a perfect president I have seen in my lifetime.
I choose to focus on all the good he did not on the things he was led to believe were good but were not.
We would be in much better shape if he were still President. But we don’t want to see him run over again by bureaucrats who ran the pandemic or constant investigations and ran out of office by fraud.
That’s right I want President Trump to have the ability to expose, run down usurpers, and be able to properly replace with the removal of the Unipary hold/system.
No one has and no one ever will have that potential ability ever again.
President Trump won 2016 . We won an exposed DC and Media. 2020 was stolen. We found the Installed Regime has a completely state run media. It is exposed. Everyone knows it. God-willing 2022 lays the shifting ground work that is necessary for President Trump to finish upending the elite routine and their sick, demented hold in politics on our country, and around the world.
I don’t get it. I care less if Trump is for it or against it. I made my choice based on my decision and not Trumps. I don’t know what it is people cannot see it this way…..Oh well its damn if you do and damn if you don’t.
My guess is it won’t make a hill of beans of difference down the road anyway. Biden represent slavery and Trump represents freedom …take your pick.
Very few people are genuine free thinkers.
the world sucks.
a lot of people took the shot due to being pressured. that isnt fair or legal. this isnt a gladiator ring. people should pay a consequence for pressuring others to take a shot (nuremberg isnt fake, and its was made for this situation)
Fauci, his cronies, and members of the entire apparatus will have to be held accountable in one form or another.
Agree!
There you go again!
“It’s very disappointing … I struggle with this reality that he is stuck in a political corner… one that he alone painted himself into.”
“There is a way out. You’ll have to read my opinion on “the way out” solution in an earlier post I made in this thread. I am interested in reading any comments or responses.”
President Trump hasn’t painted himself into any corners, to use your moronic analogy. Swamp creatures work night and day to paint him into corners and the Covid hype/warning controversy is a perfect example of YOU doing your utmost to … paint him into any corner YOU can find.
He’s just a troll – divide and conquer is his game.
You know … when you engage regitiger in a written debate, having to read “War and Peace” isn’t so intimidating anymore. Now it seems more like a pamphlet.
Ned, respectfully Regitiger is far from a troll. If you’ve following his comments he is thoughtful and extremely intelligent. I am a Trump supporter, but honestly Reg is right on with his mRNA research. Trump is going to lose his base if he keeps up this rhetoric. You think evangelicals are going to support him over this push for the vaccines? Not. Maybe given Biden being such a baffoon ccp sellout, he’ll get a swing from the dems. That’s even if our votes matter. We aren’t seeing anything from election challenges while they destroy the evidence.
Just read all the conflicting comments on this post. How are we ever going to heal this country? I personally wouldn’t challenge Regitiger.. he does his homework and extremely well.
don’t be afraid ….listen and get informed.
I can do this all day long, but I will not at the consideration of fellow treepers who ALREADY KNOW what president trump has stated MANY TIMES about his recommendations about taking the jab.
To my knowledge there are about 14 difference instances and venues over the last 5 months that president trump has recommended and advocated positively that EVERYONE get the jab. These are not small settings. These a huge national audiences. Some even global where the videos and transcripts are being republished.
Yes, he is against “mandates” as any constitutionally sound argument would conclude is never going to pass muster. (we KNOW the biden administration’s agenda differs greatly and has tested the legal limits to mandate and pressure people with coercion, financial consequences, penalties, loss of employment, etc…some winning in court, most not…but the distinction definitely exist there, no question about it: Trump was never willing to go to mandates as he is content with working well inside the limits of govt; not so much with biden)
the issue is mandates is moot.
The difference is that President Trump CONSTANTLY AND WITHOUT HESITATIONS RECOMMENDS THAT EVERYONE GET THE JAB. I think you either have never seen or refused to see what president trump is talking about or you just lack the ability to understand how his views and recommendations are very powerful and do cause people to take a cue and follow his lead. That works great when he is right and truthful. In this issue, he is completely wrong and obviously so. Many people are completely unaware that his is completely wrong on this issue. They just hear President Trump telling them what he did and what he encourages people to follow his example. it IS exactly how he frames it each time. At other instances, his messaging is just as confusing, where he contradicts his advice. “I don’t care if people get the shot or not, but they should know it is safe”…or “even joe biden got the shot…joe was telling everyone if I was involved he would never get it..but he did, so there must be some truth about the shot”…”melania and i got the shot and it was wonderful…it works very well”..
I think you should do your homework. I have found that no amount of evidence anyone can produce, ultimately it’s entirely up to the person to decide if they even want to consider putting any effort into it”
let me know when you have watched and read at least 5 videos and interviews and transcripts that president trump has been cheerleading and praising mrna as “the greatest”…”miracle drug”…”the best thing you can do to protect yourself”.
when you can prove to me you have actually read and watched these 5 things and put in the time and the effort to educate and inform yourself.
then we can have a discussion.
First, let me say that I am not, nor will I ever be vaxxed, despite Trump’s constant advocacy of ‘his’ OWS vaxxes.
Second, since information has come to light about the dangers associated with mRNA vaxxes, and their utter lack of efficacy, I have been surprised by Trump’s continued support for them. I’ve been confused, disappointed and increasingly irritated by it.
Third, I find your argument of the OWS vaxxes as a national security threat very intriguing.
My question is this: Could there be another reason, one no one has publicly voiced nor considered, why Trump maintains his stalwart support and advocacy of the vaxxed?
Will there be a test? What about essay questions?
Let’s cut to the chase sweetie. Nothing anyone says in response to you will be valid in your eyes unless they agree with you. ” I take it a “discussion” with you is more like enduring a long winded diatribe.
The lady doth protest too much, methinks
“It’s a national security issue.”
Have you heard the one about Russia? The fed-surrection?
-EIS: The CDC’s ‘Medical CIA’ Failed America on the Pandemic
https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-cdcs-medical-cia-failed-america-on-the-pandemic_3781971.html
-2014: Ebola Nurse’s Ties to EIS Scrubbed From Website: Is Far Left Progressive & Obama Supporter
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/10/breaking-ebola-nurses-ties-to-cdc-scrubbed-from-website-is-far-left-progressive-obama-supporter/
Sorry, but vaccination is not “THE ISSUE of the day. Gasoline prices, half-empty store shelves, inflation, school closures etc are all more on the minds of Americans. Unless the government tries to illegally mandate ongoing booster shots for everyone, people will go on with their lives vaxxed or unvaxxed.
Trump has said that in the past about high risk groups.
WAB, did you post such information way back in January – March 2020?
If not, why not?
Did you at the very least draw to the attention of the readers on CTH that Fauci was, perhaps, a deceitful and dishonest person – because you had seen what his eyes revealed, notwithstanding his mouth was saying the opposite?
Did you post on CTH back when the mRNA “vaccines” were first mooted, about how dangerous they might possibly prove to be?
Did you back up any such advice with facts and data?
Like Jones and so many other pundits, it is far easier to be wise with the effluxion of time.
The decision as to whether one engages in medical procedures or treatments has always rested with the individual, has it not, having cognizance of informed consent?
Lastly, given your obvious self importance and superior knowledge of everything that happens in the world, will you be nominating and standing for President of the United States in 2024?
Whom are you addressing?
You have to ask the question where all of these long worded, wonders are when it comes to demanding an investigation and overturning of the fraudulent 2020 election?
Most are missing in action for that primary MAGA objective.
So the qualifying question could be asked: Are you MAGA or coupie?
Exactly 💯
“MAGA or coupie”
Keep our eyes 👀 on the MAGA prize🏁
They were working 24/7 to paint President Trump into a corner and then blame him for not taking the action they deem correct.
“With all the bravado out there, I have not had one credible person willing to stand up and debate me in order to defend the CROOKED election.” – Donald J. Trump 12/23/2021
I agree. The worldwide media would pounce .
During President Trump’s four years he was under constant attack. The effort to provoke him to obstruct justice during the Mueller witch hunt was unreal. He didn’t engage. He’s masterful at avoiding being manipulated or provoked. This has to be similar? The power he is up against is incomprehensible.
It was only a matter of time. You have to have patience.
You could see them coming from a mile away. Not the first time.
They announce themselves…
-Nov. 9, 2016: Atlanta CDC Employees Express Anxiety Over Trump’s Win
“She said she’s worried Trump might appoint public health leaders who may not be in total support of mandatory vaccinations…”
https://archive.vn/uAV6C
Indeed, the power he has to contend with is awesome, amoral, and demonstrates a chilling fixity of purpose, to eradicate most of humanity. He has no choice but to conform to their Narrative, they hold almost all the cards here in the temporal realm. He has done a masterful job of finessing it. There is simply no one else who could have. His vax stance is much ado about about less than nothing except to blowhard gasbags like AJ, the textbook disinfo agent. That the vaccines cause illness and death by design is a given. There are now seven or so “peer-reviewed” (for what it’s worth) studies that claim at least 150K people ( I personally think that’s way low) have died directly because of receiving the jab. In 1976 they terminated the swine flu vaccine project after 25 people died. ICU nurses are now reporting 8 year old kids showing up with myocarditis and strokes. This is a hell-on-earth nightmare and it continues apace. Most of our armed forces have gotten jabbed, the CCP and Russian armed forces haven’t. Think about that. But any politician who states this directly instantly nullifies their career and will probably have an unfortunate accident. So Trump says what he says for his own reasons that none of us are privy to. He’s a fallible human being but he is all we have. Apart from God that is. In any case I seriously doubt that anyone on either side of the Great Divide has rushed out to get jabbed because of his lukewarm “endorsement”
PDJT Knows we know. He knows he cannot get fools who do not know to the table. He trusts us to trust him.
The deeper issue we have to reconcile is whether Trump is up against Pelosi, Schumer, and the bureaucratic deep state or is he up against the Chicoms, Bilderburgs, WEF, Rothchild, and Illuminati globalists. If the enemy is the former and they are using an overhyped pandemic for political advantage, then Trump’s strategy to diffuse the issue makes some sense.
If, on the other hand, Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates have put in motion a depopulation agenda under the guise of a great reset, Trump has an obligation to speak out to prevent genocide.
I know which scenario I believe to be true but doubt I can convince anyone who has not looked into this on their own.
It’s better for him to speak from the platform of current Presidential power.
Otherwise he’s just another soon to be diminished voice in severely controlled media platforms.
He’ll be better able to deal with globalists in power.
Keep our eyes 👀 on the prize 🏁.
He is going to own his own media platform soon. Will he divest to run for office? It probably depends on how profitable and influential it is. That brings me to another question: is Truth Social going to allow the truth about vaccines?
That brings me to another question: is Truth Social going to allow the truth about vaccines?
Yes, I wonder about that too!
You don’t have to convince anyone of anything.
You can persuade people to consider information they may not be aware of, so they have the opportunity to decide for themselves if that information makes common sense to them.
That way, they arrive at their own conclusion.
You have to have patience and get creative.
41% of Dems…YMMV.
You’re right, persuade would be a better word choice.
A more revealing statistic would be how many of that 41 percent think the fraud was justified because OrangManBad
Trump is up against all of the above. The NWO/great reset is the objective, The Pandemic is the guise
I think people totally misunderstand when Trumps position has always been vaccines for the vulnerable, and I don’t think people fully understand how many vulnerable people there are. 87 million prediabetics in the USA and rising!
The ex Mayor of New York understood the vulnerability and capitalized by ensuring the spread of COVID to the elderly in care homes, and thereby reducing some of the tax burden on NYC. That is how Dems think, and operate.
its mostly because people’s kids took the shot due to programming and low allegiance to the family guidance of the parents.
would you like to share the efficacy and safety data for mRNA for prediabetic people?
would you like to share the same for “elderly”?
oh, my bad, how could you share that data?
none of those people were included in ANY of the phase 3 human trials.
not one single person who had ANY comorbidity up to and including severely immunocompromised people, like hiv/aids patients were allowed to participate in ANY of the two original phase 3, 93 day miracle human trials. disqualified from participation.
but surely you could get some data and the internal communications that describe the official process for approval from the FDA by the two mRNA drug companies. Surely THAT data is publicly available, no?
sure, just wait 55 years to get it. And when you do, don’t get shocked when ALL THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECTS are black hole redacted for “national security reasons” by a federal judge!
so yeah, I understand your point…there are “vulnerable” people who are far more likely to get very sick and even die from ccp19. Definitely true.
the question is: can you show me effectiveness of mRNA in a double blind trial where the control WAS NOT SPIKED by offering the placebo groups the actual drug and not sugar water BEFORE the study even concluded?
because anecdotal “in the wild” observations is not going to cut it. science right?
lets go with science?
any why IS IT, that finding actual science that has not been groomed and blacked out is missing in action.
why is it so damned difficult for “science” to show its work here?
what’s to hide?
I think we both know the reasons why so much effort was spent in keeping this data secret and screwed up on purpose. One does not just accidentally make this kind of mistake….repeatedly at every corner of science where the complete truths about mRNA safety and efficacy can be reviewed?
The first lesson in propaganda…the less is known, the more is speculated.
-Informed consent disclosure to vaccine trial subjects of risk of COVID-19 vaccines worsening clinical disease
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33113270/
-2011: Pentagon Wants a Social Media Propaganda Machine
wired.com/2011/07/darpa-wants-social-media-sensor-for-propaganda-ops/
-2012: OBAMA LEGALIZED THE USE OF PROPAGANDA ON U.S. POPULATION
‘Anti-Propaganda’ Ban Repealed, Freeing State Dept. To Direct Its Broadcasting Arm At American Citizens
investmentwatchblog.com/obama-legalized-the-use-of-propaganda-on-u-s-population-trump-needs-to-undo-it-make-crisis-actors-illegal/
“It’s the unvaccinated who are filling up the hospitals…”
Manifestly untrue.
And there’s this little gem, also from the Owens interview:
“The vaccine is one of the greatest achievements of mankind”…
Sir, do you mean the collusion between the national public health agencies who take money from the pharmaceutical giants, who conducted “trials” and “studies” that are completely corrupted and whose inner workings are hidden?
Sir, do you mean the massive mobilization of social capital (media, propaganda, markets) and the unrelenting, coordinated fear campaign pushing people toward vaccination, as if you were FDR and this were a World War 2 scenario??
Mr. President, do you mean the coercion and scapegoating of those who don’t want it and/or have ethical and scientific objections to it)?
Mr. President, do you mean the devolution of the health care industry, the destruction of the doctor-patient relationship, and the pandemic of distrust between the public and the medical establishment?
Sir, do you mean the ongoing Phase 3 experimental gene therapy that is killing and maiming hundreds of thousands of previously-healthy people, individuals who took it without informed consent and under threat or coercion?
Is this really “one of the greatest achievements of mankind”?
That’s quite a low bar.
it is one of the few times we inserted an mRNA into a human and had them make a protein product.
this is remarkable. completely seperate from Covid.
just a thought.
To me, Trump’s comments were perfectly reasonable and showed more maturity and common sense than Biden’s “You’re all going to die!!!” approach.
You’ve got a point there, comparing the two. I’ll grant that! 🤠
Keep our eyes 👀 on the prize 🏁
President Trump is the only currently effective national MAGA candidate that has pulled more than 71,000,000 plus ➕️ votes 🗳.
We’re going to need pro-MAGA candidates winning in these approaching primaries to support President Trump when he starts his new term.
Hope all had a blessed Christmas Day. Don’t know where I read this last night but part of President Trump’s Warp Speed was to CREATE ANTIBODIES to the bio-weapon unleashed upon the world.
It is President Trump ‘s fate it seems to be forever ridiculed for any word he speaks, especially for what he said about helpful hints re the human immune system in the face of that bioweapon. And now it seems he was correct all along with his suggestions
One of these daze, I pray, the record will be set straight as to what PJT did for the world. He was created like the rest of those living in the Universe. He has EVERY RIGHT TO BE HERE and HAVE HIS VOICE HEARD without all of the forking slings and arrows. Its enough already. Whatever “sells” in the “news” these daze. Methinks I might live to see the time that we find a way to humor ourselves with all of reruns of the Anti-Trump BS.
I am patient. I can wait for it.
President Trump did his best with the catastrophic circumstances persented to him. He also saw the lock downs were destroying our economy so he went for a vaccine to shut the bureaucrats up – at warp speed no less. He took Hydroxychloroquine and took Regeneron and also took one of the mRNA vaccines with no side effects but no one wants to give him credit or acknowledge that.
Instead of taking out their anger on WHO mislead all of us and have been for decades, they blame President Trump. Our government is so corrupt and President Trump exposed that and at great personal loss. You might want to ask why the GOP isn’t speaking our against this that have not only influence but the power to change things and get the message out. They censor President Trump all the time and still trying to destroy him post presidency. Nah, it’s easier to dump on Trump, so that is what trolls do. If there is ever a Republican President, he or she will have the same problems as President Trump has had.
I suggest to serious people,not fair weather supporters, stop voting in these corrupt people! Get some patriots to run instead of taking out your frustrations on President Trump who NEVER mandated any of this and left it as a choice. Stop taking the bait of the DIVIDE and CONQUER trolls.
Not sure why my two previous comments disappeared when I responded to someone who was talking about PDJTs faith in the jabs but I feel I raise a valid concern. PDJT contracted and recovered from the wu flu and states that he is fully jabbed.
There is compelling evidence that such a combination may actually cause harm and promote reinfection by the variants as well as compromise the innate immune system. Additionally, there is also strong evidence that any protection initially offered by the jabs wanes in very short order potentially leading to the permanent need for frequent boosters. This is compounded by the high frequency of a whole spectrum of adverse effects ranging from minor and temporary to major and permanent some resulting in death.
We must prepare ourselves for scenarios where he may become incapacitated or worse from the adverse effects of the jab. Should this occur in the relatively near future (between now and 2024) the harm and lack of efficacy of the jabs will be undeniable from a political perspective.
I refuse to call the jabs something that they are not which is a vaccine. I refuse to add any credibility to an egregious attack by the pharmaceutical-medical industrial complex on an unwitting populace using a failed mRNA gene modification experiment, a technology which has disastrously failed in every prior attempt in animal trials.
All this being said and with all due respect it is unconscionable for PDJT to be promoting the jab as being universally safe and effective when the actual experience is demonstrably otherwise regardless of whether or not the jab is elective or mandated.
I know many people who have injected “RNA as a drug”(that’s how one of the inventors described it).
In any case, that inventor has been injected with RNA as a drug.
-Omicron has Cracked Open the Overton Window
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/omicron-has-cracked-open-the-overton?r=ta0o1&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
This evening, on Christmas night, I received a text from VDH, information about my 12/23/21 Covid-19 test. It said the following, “Stay home and away from other people to stop Covid-19 spread. Because of your test result, you can use the COVIDWISE app to anonymously notify your close contacts. Contact your healthcare provider or test site for your questions about your test result”. Then it included a hyperlink for the app, which I will not click on.
I did not have a Covid test on 12/23. I went grocery shopping, bought sushi, came home, watched a movie while I ate my sushi, and then made a batch of Magic Cookie Bars. That was my day, no doctors, no testing of any kind.
I have been tested only once, against my will, I was literally strapped down on a hospital stretcher w/a very large needle in my femoral artery when they did it. That was one year ago when I was in the hospital.
Has anyone else received a text of this nature?
All I know is DJT had better get his act together, wake up and smell the coffee. I do not care about the past and his actions, his stable genius, his good intentions, his chess playing strategies, and all the rest. What I care about is what is going on TODAY. When the gov’t is telling me I had a test that I didn’t have, and I am positive when I am not, leaving instructions on how to inform my contacts anonymously about an illness I don’t have, something is very wrong. It has now hit home invasion up close and personal, and I am PISSED.
This is not acceptable, and neither is a toxic injection that is being called a vaccine. People can blindly defend him if they want, if they can’t admit what is going on is pure evil and he needs to speak out against it, that is on them. And don’t give me the crap of vote for him or a democrat. He hasn’t announced he is running, and 2024 is a very long time from now. God only knows what will happen between now and then.
It sounds like the test results scam from last year is BACK!
Yep.
And I fail to see how anger at PDJT does anything whatsoever about it. 🙄
Do you have a faceless.com spam account?
Zuckerberg probably sold you out.
All of your likes belong to him.
”The simple step of a courageous individual is not to take part in the lie.”
― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn
I’m staying out of this.
You can build lies bigger or build truths better.
I knew I wasn’t going to take a vaccine in 2016 and 2020.
I still voted for PT.
Archbishop Vigano’ does understand the vaccine. He was invited to join the Fortnight Intelligence Briefing by Mary Fanning.
Archbishop Vigano’ gave his message to the American People on Ark Midnight with General McInerney, General Vallely, Col Sellin, Mary Fanning and Alan Jones with John B Wells which broadcasts over Salem Radio Network.
LISTEN:
His Excellency, Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò: MESSAGE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
https://theamericanreport.org/2021/12/19/his-excellency-archbishop-carlo-maria-vigano-message-to-the-american-people/
https://clouthub.com/v/cd6e6835-6e34-4077-a550-bd867bc546bf
Many of us have swum against the current and done our own research. Many of us have avoided the fear mongering and vaccines. Those are choices President Trump supports.
NOW, all you hand-wringing sacks-of-worry, PLEASE CONSIDER this for one moment:
WE are in the vast MINORITY as regards these issues, and THE VAST MAJORITY of Americans have already taken the vaccines. Good, bad, or otherwise, the vast MAJORITY of those who took it HAVE NOT HAD NEGATIVE OUTCOMES.
These people mostly believe that the vaccine HELPED THEM. They are not swayed by those who naysay. I have tried to inform my leftist family members to no avail, and to a person, none have suffered from the vaccines. Who looks like an idiot to these people? Me, the one who urged caution and avoidance of that which ultimately gives them mental comfort.
Trump changing his tune, as REGITIGER etc. seem to believe is a moral imperative, is not constructive in any way.
Those who have taken the shots will not be swayed, and those of us who have done our homework know better and are happy that Trump wants US TO CHOOSE for ourselves.
I’m solidly with Sundance on this one. There is absolutely no reason for Trump to change his position. It is apparent that those who suffered from these injections were victims of MALADMINISTRATION wherein the secret sauce went intravenous rather than intramuscular. That MEDICAL MALPRACTICE is not Trump’s fault.
Folks need to relax on this and recognize that hundreds of millions of our countrymen have taken the shot with no ill effect and that they BELIEVE it is helping things. Trump throwing aspersions at that belief system would add to the public’s confusion and consternation, and would be be political suicide.
Only you don’t know what the long term effects actually are.
There is a big difference between no ill effects now and no ill effects.
If the heart problems and clots are showing up in younger and younger professional sportsmen due to exercise stressing of the heart. These effects are likely to be in a lot more people but they do not hit the parameters needed to show this. It is likely that these symptoms will start to be noticeable as the heart ages and it would be fully consistent to expect a downward trend of the heart attack age as this cohort ages.
You will see large scale heart problems into a population that is in their 30s/40s from something done 10 years previously.
And then what?
I do not argue these points, BUT the vaxx developed while Trump was president was INTENDED to address a threat to the ELDERLY and INFIRM. Any youngster who is stupid enough to take this (based upon the extremely low mortality for young people) is on the losing end of their own decision. Anyone who forces others to take this crap is a criminal. Trump NEVER forced it on anyone.
We can play the monday morning quarterback for ever on this topic, but what is silly is blaming a guy who has been out of office for the better part of a year.
He used it and thinks it works, and even the most strident doctors admit that for the elderly there IS a benefit.
If you don’t want it that’s fine with Trump. Always has been. Liability for footballers should be on the leagues that FORCED the vaxx on their healthy young players.
are you seriously going to assert there are no ill effects from mRNA?
because if that is your main argument premise, I would suggest you being doing that minority report work you described.
yes, we are seemingly a small focused group.
I can ASSURE YOU that beyond the member treepers here at CTH, there exists far far far more who have dived into mRNA contraindications, actually read vaers, read and re-read the redacted court ordered first pages of their internal documents that record harm statistics.
the harm is non-trivial.
in former FDA periods, there was never any instance where so many critically important science protocols were tossed away with zero explanations ..(spiking the control, disqualifying immune compromised people, disqualifying the most at risk people)
so right away, we notice serious issues about how this approval process was accomplished. it was a flat out fraud. there is no scientific value to a human trials that refuses to maintain strict double blind rules…there is no scientific value and no efficacy or safety assumptions to be formed when you eliminate all the most at risk people…why would you do that? isn’t the entire point of a warped speed to study how well the drug works on the people most likely to suffer from it?
then we turn to VAERS…yes, I understand its voluntary…and never going to meet the ideal standards to make statistically sounds judgements about safety…but when you notice the KINDS OF HARM all follow the same pattern, and the inexplicable high rate of deaths. sure, one cannot prove correlation = cause. But that data also cannot be ignored because the data is showing you proof there is a statistically higher incidence of illness and death than what you would normally find in a population. This was also seen in other nations states that also have open vaers like systems. It’s the pattern that show you something very unusual is happening. non-trivial.
to your last paragraph.
lots of people BELIEVE it works. These people did not just imagine it would work…They did not just conjur up this believe system,
it was SOLD to them. massively…with hardly any at all taking the other position of facts.
and one of those people, a very big mouthpiece was AND CONTINUES TO BE President Trump.
you know what people would believe in? the truth!
how about we start with some of that.
2 years now, truth would be a welcome respite.
and might also save President Trump from making the biggest political blunder.
see, whether you realize and understand this or not, let me make it very clear:
WE NEED PRESIDENT TRUMP to do these things. We need him to do these things, because it is right to do it, and it is truthful and more than ever we need to have our warrior knight again disrupt everything about this nightmare.
Right now, President Trump is wasting alot of time and he is in fact digging a grave for his political career.
as a President Trump supporter, I cannot accept that is how his political career and quite frankly any short term political solution to the MANY OTHER ISSUES that he and only he has demonstrated the skill, the motivation, the tenacity and the drive to accomplish.
We need President Trump to get right about mRNA messaging and soon. It would be the most humiliating defeat should he continue to roll with this complete and utter garbage about “greatest ever” mRNA safety and efficacy and then to lose the confidence of his base.
think about it..the man can survive 2 impeachments, dozens and dozens of hit jobs and media smears and fbi/doj/hillary orchestrated coups, allegations from what is it 5-6 alleged rape or sex crimes?
he can survive all those attacks and still manage to create the best economic growth for the United States ever!
but cannot find the time to spend focusing his messaging right now on the most critically important national security crisis?
I just can’t allow that. it’s unacceptable.
there are things this country needs right now.
trump
truth
both.
Regitiger, forgetabout it, I’m not buying what you are selling. NONE OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS WERE SWAYED BY TRUMP. They all loathe him. They all took 3 doses. They think everybody should. The Trump supporter in the family did NOT take the vaccine.
Going on about MRNA in this context is a waste of time, as those who made a bad call and took the stuff cannot back out now. Those who avoided the vaxx do not need to be convinced to stay away from MNRA. They ALREADY understand the issues.
Trump coming out against the vaxx now would be playing the foolish game Mark Twain observed: It is much easier to fool someone than it is to convince them they have been fooled.
AND— The real wolf at the door is MANDATES. Trump understands that this is the CRIMINAL effort by Biden to force us against our will. Trump does not support any kind of mandate.
Regi, you’d throw out the baby with the bathwater. Is Trump perfect? no, but then is ANY man? He has a lot to offer our country, and did a lot of good, but you’d nullify all that because he was hoodwinked and undermined by the deep state with covid?
I’m sorry, but I’ll not abandon the good because it is not perfect. (no matter how many words you type).
That was good. I like your way of thinking. Like you, my wife and I did not and will not get jabbed and we are both 72. The rest of our family have all taken the jabs. My brother and I are barely on speaking terms over this, but, then again he is a highly placed civilian working for DOD. His response to me about this and climate change is “I follow the science”. I have to laugh.
Anyway, I just wanted to let you know I appreciated your response.
Everyone is forgetting the elephant in the room: People were/are afraid of dying. The Covid fear mongers did their jobs well. No amount of valid information of who actually dies from covid or how many and what types of adverse effects happened from the mRNA “vaccines” will CHANGE peoples minds. Not even knowledge of the therapeutics that were denied to those who died from covid will change anyone’s mind. The hysteria is so thick with fear of dying that at times I no longer want to be with these people. It is very sad because many of them are family and dear friends. The fact that those who are vaxxed may still get covid is unimportant to them. The unvaccinated are now the enemy and are to be “avoided” by getting boosters, wearing a mask at all times and excluding them from important celebrations. At this point, NO ONE will ever change the minds of MOST people who are vaccinated. Attempting to do so is futile and a waste of TIME.
Testing is now a sacred ritual for the vaxxed. I will vote for Donald Trump.
Regitiger, I do not dispute your points, and I have also done the research, but like Trump, I work from the viewpoint of a public official who functioned daily with a hostile press and government ever hopeful of words, any words, to use to cudgel him.
Nobody is going to be saved by Trump changing his view or message on this topic. The battle lines have hardened between those who will and those who won’t take the vax.
Trump changing his messaging now will NOT HELP TRUMP OR AMERICA. If he does it will be a spin-fest unrivaled in history. AND they will spin phoney things like this: “Trump admits killing Americans with poison vaccines”. And as you know, that is so far from the truth, but THEY will shout it from the rooftops.
He may plan to go on offense once his media venue is up and running, who knows? Your laser focus on this one issue ignores ALL the other issues that are demanding the President’s attention.
PS, I have historically liked your posts, but this rut you’re in has dragged me out of the shadows. I’ll go away now.
Be in peace.
they will spin it anyway….don’t we agree they will invent ANY AND ALL excuse to bury him.
my view is, you have the truth on your side…and with the growing awareness NOW that the mrna is a fraud, does not work, and is UNSAFE…not only distinguishes him from the criminals, but it PLACES THE ISSUE RIGHT UP FRONT AND CENTER..
imagine scene of debate:
malarkey: so you changed your mind now and believe this is just one great conspiracy.
trump: no, it is much simpler than that. the science shows the mrna does not work….I follow the science. The science is also showing the effects of this mrna jab is causing serious harm to many people and is likely responsible for the growing numbers of mutations. I am NOW focused on drugs that work and that are safe and that are effective. Ivermecton for exaample. monoclonal antibodies. We have to accept there is never going to be a workable vaccine for this virus. This one is going to be around forever. This is what the science says. This is what the leading authorities on pandemics are showing. The best strategy based on this science is that we can prevent the unnecessary hospitalizations and deaths by repurposing the safe, effective antiviral drugs and get them to everyone as kits so that whenever they are feeling ill, they can have the very best opportunity to reduce the risks of getting very sick or dying. And for those at highest risk, we are proposing to adopt the Florida model and have monoclonal antibodies facilities in every state, so that we can get these life saving drugs to the people who need them where they are immediately. I changed my views based on the best science available today. If that science changes I will again revisit a decision point again. By the way joe, can you explain to the american people why your entire white house staff has been issued ivermectin?
Your BEAUTIFUL essay is the keeper here tonight and makes a common sense bookend to Sundance’s !!!
THANK YOU!
My pleasure Boogywstew. Glad you liked it.
Many people have taken the anthrax vaccine.
Remember when Bruce Ivins sent Al-qaeda letters in the mail.
That was a really scary time. Cheney kept us safe from mail-in anthrax.
Cheney is now keeping us safe from domestic violent extremist insurrectionists.
“I want to thank the Vice President for his hard work [on anthrax vaccines]. He was the point man in the White House on this piece of legislation and did an excellent work.” – George W. Bush, July 21, 2004 (Signing of Project Bioshield Act)
-Liz Cheney at forefront of hollow Jan. 6 war
https://nypost.com/2021/12/15/liz-cheney-at-forefront-of-hollow-jan-6-war-devine/
WTH does this have to do with my post??????
“…you’re playing right into their hands…”
“It is noted there’s a strong correlation between Ted Cruz supporters 2016 and many current Ron DeSantis promoters in 2021.”…
Ya don’t say… My advice is to check out DeSantis’ prior record, or Rick Scott’s current position, Mark Rubio. That’s what Florida repub politics gets you!
Trump recently endorsed Rubio
Trump believes the vaccine is a “tool” in the arsenal of weaponry to fight Covid. That’s 100% the correct position to take. Some want the vaccine, others don’t want it. The “vaccine” should not be mandated, which is what Trump believes. If Trump runs in 2024 he’s got my vote.
Trump cut through the red tape to get the vaccine developed. Trump did not develop the vaccine, he is not a scientist. Yet he is proud of his accomplishment. Yes, he recommends getting it, but he does not want it forced. It is still your choice under his policy. I see nothing inconsistent in that.
Personally I could care less what any President, ex-president, Government hack doctor, or celebrity says. I do my homework, consult my Doctor of needed and make an informed decision based on my age, health and risk. It is my life, and in the end it is up to me to assess risk and which risk I want to accept for myself and my family.
So, its all about the CCP. USA has the Vaxx and its our Weapon of Mass Destruction??? Think.
eI said at the early phase of the COVID fear and pandemic rising how we were fortunate to have Donald Trump in the White House, because his general disposition is to permit individual states and individual people to make their own decisions.
Perhaps Trump should have stated his federalism approach more strongly. I suspect he did not emphasize the ‘no mandate’ situation strongly enough. And perhaps he emphasized that ‘we should be proud of our achievement’ a bit too strongly, when it appears that this achievement relied on the corruption of information. That being said, Owens is responding to the opinions of HER audience, where some are doing a tremendous amount of research. Surely, it is true that Trump does not do his own research…..we see that not only with Covid, but with other issues where, after the fact, those he relied on (like Pompeo) admit they were giving him misinformation in order to sway his opinion.
That’s very disappointing to hear her say that. Candace lost any credibility.
President Trump is among the most involved and brilliant people on earth. He thought he was doing the right thing for the people he loves, US. That Big Pharma, Fauxci, Birx, Pence, the MSM and others led the way on this, is on them; certainly not on our rightful President.
A whole lot of hindsight going on. 🤔
A whole lot of ‘if only I knew then what I know now’ going on. 🤔
Why was/is there the chinese flu? 🤔
Why do people now call it Covid19 and not the chinese flu like before? 🤔
Why does everyone call it a Covid19 variant… Delta…Omicron and not chinese flu 4.o, chinese flu version 15.o? 🤔
Remember there was no ‘Xi variant’ for a reason.
There was a President Trump and then came the chinese flu.
If there was no President Trump, would there ever had been the chinese flu? 🤔
I call it the ChiCom Bioweapon these days.
I’ve given it lots of nicknames over the last couple of years, but now that I’ve experienced it…
…bioweapon seems the only real name… and we know exactly where it came from (the ChiComs, assisted by some of our corrupt Fourth Branch).
watch people on FOX. They talk DIRE, serious subjects, then they flip a switch and flash huge smiles before ‘moving on’.
CO does this to borderline levels of weirdness.
I also think she word chug-a-lugs… prides herself on how many words she can say in a ten second closing remark.
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Somebody tell Candace Owens that there is a lot of BS on the Internet.
Is Trump aware that there are Patriots that are locked up in a DC prison under abusive conditions and no due process ?
Is he aware that he invited said Patriots to his rally in DC ?
Is he aware of the 99.9+ percent survival rate of those infected with Covid-19?
Is he aware of the The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) data – the numerous deaths and injuries of his warp speed “vaccines”) ? …’His great achievement…’
Is he aware that he endorses RINOs ..Rubio , Governor Ralph Northam of Virginia.
Is he aware that after he bragged about his endorsement of Northam winning Virginia, Northam said he adamantly supports the vaccine mandates.
Is he aware American Children will be forever damaged by his Warp Speed “vaccines”
My wife and I worked locally on both of Trump’s campaigns and were huge supporters.
We no longer support the man we tirelessly campaigned for and defended.
We need a “General Patton” to lead MAGA and Trump wouldn’t make a pimple on Patton’s behind.
“Is he aware that he endorses RINOs ..Rubio , Governor Ralph Northam of Virginia.
Is he aware that after he bragged about his endorsement of Northam winning Virginia, Northam said he adamantly supports the vaccine mandates.” – kingman az
Say what?
President Trump is well aware of a lot more than we imagine.
Recap.
Trump is supporting the best medical and scientific advice the government is giving, so give him a break.
Expecting the government to ever tell us the truth is ridiculous. So don’t criticize Trump for supporting the liars.
Faceplant.
Well, you at least referenced the part where the government and its contractors are censoring and destroying everyone who contradicts them.
You left out that Trump is still pushing the vaccine. The neutral position that you depict leaves out his continued recommendations that people choose the vaccine. But you are right that there is No alternative available politically.
You raise an issue re DeSantis as Cruz that amplifies a concern I have had. How do we know that it is safe to support our politicians? We have had so many McCains, Flakes and Cruzes, all pretending to be conservative at voting time, many pretending to be conservative all the time, but all letting conservatism die, whether they give it a personal thumbs down, or publicly act like they are trying to save it.
I thought Gov. Walker had stood strong in the face of all that the left could throw. I was wrong on both accounts. Comparing how the left treated Walker and Trump, walker faced a gale and Trump faced a hurricane. But it wasn’t the adverse wind that tripped up Walker. It was the push by consultants. “So, it is time for me to stop being conservative and to be a squish like Jeb!? I’ll do that right away!”. What a loser.
How do we know when we can trust them? And yes, I have seen multiple NeverTrump opinion writers push Florida’s Gov. as a Trump alternative. I am glad that DeSantis is focusing on reelection. Not that that will stop him from running in 2024. Winning reelection would leave him stronger for 2024. Governors have a short window of national influence which peaks after a big reelection win. So far, DeSantis is stronger than Walker. But is he truer than Walker?
Getting back on track, I would like you to make a paragraph about each and every one of Trump’s picks for people to help him run the government. You know, the one about criticizing in hindsight using revelations after that pick. As a good start, since Pence is in that paragraph, start with traitor number one.
I am sure that each and every traitor that Trump selected could also have another paragraph written that starts out ‘it’s fair to say almost no one knew …’. You could have a much easier time listing those that truly supported the president and did their jobs well. It would take forever to list the backstabbers and temper tantrum throwers.
How does President Trump overcome his past failure to select people who will give good advice and implement his decisions with gusto? This is what your argument about medicine boils down to. He had to follow bad advice then and has to follow bad advice now. And he will do that again as president, unless he finds a way to ensure good advice.
As a true outsider, Trump was reliant on insiders for his choices. And the insiders were all traitors. Weren’t many insiders that kept supporting Trump through the false impeachments and the big steal. So just where will Trump find the people he needs? Same is true for any R contender. Governors have some staff they can rely on, but they still need vast numbers of people from outside their state. And if the only choices to run the government are traitors, what good does it do finding anyone to run who is for us and will stay true?
Note, this is broader than the Senate cabal that makes sure only coup participants run the IC. (Coup against the Constitution regardless of president). But the Senate plays a role in establishing all these traitors in DC, as well as confirming them into office.
I’ve made it easier for everyone below.
Insert your own dialog and make your own meme.
(And, DeSantis is staying right here in Florida where he knows he can do some good.)
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We are governed, NOT by German Nazi’s or Russian Communist’s, but by our fellow American’s.