Candace Owens likely felt some need to follow up on her interview with President Trump due to overwhelming opinion of Trump’s vaccine position. Unfortunately, she attempts to reconcile President Trump’s position by casting aspersions toward him [Daily Mail Article].
Mrs. Owens reconciles President Trump’s support for the three COVID-19 vaccines by saying he’s too old to understand the troublesome vaccine information and doesn’t use the internet for his research. WATCH:
https://youtu.be/IBOk3b3BJjM
President Trump’s position on the vaccines –as a tool in the arsenal to combat the pandemic– is essentially unremarkable. Trump supports the vaccines that were developed, under the goal of providing protection for people against the SARS-CoV-2 virus, by the scientific community. However, President Trump repeatedly insists that no one should be mandated to take the vaccine.
The essential Trump position has consistently been:
‘The American and international scientific and medical establishment have determined that SARS-CoV-2 represents a significant threat to public health. In response, the United States Center for Disease Control (CDC), the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the U.S. National Institute of Health (NIH); in coordination with the World Health Organization (WHO) and various governments around the globe, have worked with scientists and pharmaceutical companies to develop vaccines to be deployed under emergency authorizations. Those vaccines are available for the American public to consider and use, if a person is worried about their health risk.’
That’s it, that’s the sum total of President Trump’s position.
Trump doesn’t feel people should be pressured, forced, coerced or mandated to take a vaccine. Nor should anyone be subject to discrimination or division based on their unique medical decision. Vaccination is an individual choice, and President Trump has said, repeatedly, he respects anyone’s decision either way, and the federal government should not be involved. From my perspective, this is non-controversial.
Additionally, despite the proclamations of many who have even written on these comment sections, this position is not only the same as Florida Governor ¹Ron DeSantis, but also identical.
Again, position encapsulated: “Here’s what the professionals who work for your federal government have come up with, use them as you see beneficial to yourself and your family.”
In addition to the vaccine development approach, in 2020 President Trump authorized the U.S. medical community to work collaboratively to immediately provide therapeutic options and antibody treatments as tools and resources for doctors and infected patients to use in treatment.
Critics of President Trump have argued that the former president should now be taking a strong position in opposition to the vaccines as a result of new information which undermines the original efficacy of them. The vaccines now require boosters, and the vaccines do not stop the spread of infection, ergo they are useless or potentially worse, might cause harm.
Despite these issues, the position of the United States government has not changed, and all of the previous U.S. medical institutions who advised on the original approach toward vaccination against the pandemic have not reversed their position. Those are the current decision makers for public health, not Donald Trump.
The public ire directed toward President Trump would be more appropriately targeted toward the professionals in the scientific and medical establishment who are in the current position to make a modification or reversal in their approach.
There are many people using hindsight to criticize President Trump saying: with revelations over the past two years the entire U.S. medical establishment no longer holds credibility. However, at the time those original pandemic mitigation decisions were made, and President Trump activated a Cornavirus Taskforce led by Vice President Mike Pence, how many American people really understood the political nonsense happening deep inside the CDC, FDA and NIH?
It’s fair to say almost no one knew how corrupt those institutions of U.S. public health were at the time when the first concerns of the COVID virus were raised. Similarly, few people knew how corrupt the FBI and U.S. intelligence apparatus was in 2016 when those institutions were spying on and targeting candidate Trump. Most of the identified revelations of historic corruption surface only as a result of investigations after the fact.
Approximately two-thirds of the American population have taken the vaccine shot(s), and a large number of them are currently in the process of getting boosters. We can only imagine what would happen if the U.S. government was to officially state the vaccinations are now determined to be detrimental in some manner or form. That’s why it is certain, regardless of the danger or lack thereof from the vaccination itself, the U.S. government will never, ever, reverse course on their claims of vaccine safety, or even value.
Expecting some entity or individual in the United States to be capable of forcing the United States government, or any medical institution within it, to admit they are potentially harming the public – is an exercise in futility. It will never happen. Ever. That Rubicon was crossed well over a year ago.
We are now at the point where the FDA is authorizing, under emergency use processes, just about anything the medical establishment tells them to authorize. Which, understandably, has resulted in even fewer people participating in anything the FDA, CDC and NIH come up with.
Is the COVID-19 virus, or any iteration of a variant therein, likely no worse than a severe flu strain? The answer to that has always been, maybe. When you layer on sunlight showing how political the FDA, CDC & NIH institutions are, the answer shifts to ‘more than likely.’ However, we are operating now with a hindsight that was not available before, and even now data is still kept from the overwhelming majority of the American people, and Big Tech has been instructed to do exactly that.
Candace Owens reconciles President Trump’s position by saying, “he’s old” and “he doesn’t use the internet for his own research.” To me that is not only curt and ridiculous, that position shows me Mrs. Owens does not understand the importance of the stable mindedness needed for success at the scale of a United States president.
I said at the early phase of the COVID fear and pandemic rising how we were fortunate to have Donald Trump in the White House, because his general disposition is to permit individual states and individual people to make their own decisions.
At a time, when COVID panic was at its apex, Trump could have gone full totalitarian dictator, and few would have flinched. But he didn’t… instead he urged calm and told the American people to act prudently, but do not allow fear to overcome us.
All of the issues around vaccines are related to scientific and medical community practices. Neither Donald Trump or Ron DeSantis is a scientist or a doctor, and they can only rely upon the opinions, suggestions and recommendations provided to them by experts in these fields.
It is one thing for you and me to have research-based opinions on vaccines that may or may not align with scientific consensus. It is another kettle-o-fish entirely for Donald Trump to have an opinion, where his public statements are weighted toward national policy for public health.
I specifically remember when President Trump told us from the White House podium that the media-driven hype over the COVID-19 “was a hoax,” and the industrial media complex, along with both sides of the political spectrum and the total scientific medical community, blasted him for downplaying the SARS-CoV-2 risk.
From where I sit, given the scale of what has taken place, President Trump’s current position is stable and non-controversial. Essentially, here’s the vaccine tools they say will help, decide for yourself.
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[¹] It is noted there’s a strong correlation between Ted Cruz supporters 2016 and many current Ron DeSantis promoters in 2021.
It’s good that President Trump doesn’t support vaccine mandates, but he’s very dismissive of people’s concerns about the mRNA vaccines.
https://m.beforeitsnews.com/health/2021/12/dr-david-martin-why-does-trump-keep-promoting-the-vaccine-must-video-3043775.html
In the above video interview, Dr. David Martin believes that PDJT was duped. I concur.
In addition, it must be remembered the untimely deaths that happened to occur to the the three or four national leaders that refused to accept the “gene modification therapy masquerading as a vaccine”
Good point. Think of Haiti.
And the good President of Tanzania? Dr. Magafuli? A scientist who tested mangos and goats for Covid and they turned up positive, LOL. (He died too soon, RIP. The Manchester Guardian described him as “Divisive”, i guess that was the best “dismissal” they could come up with for an honest man)
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/may/19/tanzanias-president-shrugs-off-covid-19-risk-after-sending-fruit-for-tests
Zimbabwe was one of the first places to utilize Ivermectin. When word got out, Zimbabwean govt clamped down and imprisoned Dr. Jackie Stone, who had blogged about Ivermectin’s efficacy.
God help us from all the greedy crooks in the shadows, murdering people
Thanks for the footnote, Sundance. 😉
Did y’all catch that?
Can you explain it, please?
[¹] It is noted there’s a strong correlation between Ted Cruz supporters 2016 and many current Ron DeSantis promoters in 2021.
While I wouldn’t try to put words in SD’s mouth, it’s greatly appreciated that he’s always observant.
Observant of what, please?
I suggest a review of the chorus line of uniparty Republicans running in 2015 and 2016 and how they and their supporters attacked(then Candidate)President Trump (and by extension MAGA American citizens).
The now self outed Candace O. has made a classic Never Trumper play ▶️ against President Trump with her follow up.
Her pay masters are beginning the push for another 20 top notch so-called moderate to right uniparty Republicans to run in the general 2024 by having these types push their various mid term primary candidates throughout the 50 states.
The big or small reveals in all these states and national candidates is just what C.O. has exhibited with her not so subtle subterfuge.
Sundance may have a far different explanation and details but after lurking here over the last decade I believe Sundance provides the best analysis whatever he comes with because he’s done it so many times consistently.
Same with President Donald Trump!
Just stay on the Trump Train 🚆 and keep your eyes 👀 on the prize 🏁.
While I don’t consider DeSantis Uniparty, I think you are spot on regarding the Never Trumper play.
troll tactics
It’s a great country, where anybody can grow up to be president….. except me.
It’s a great internet, where anybody can have his own opinions on Covid “vaccines “…… except me.
President Trump is a rock star, figuratively, as is Candace Owens. They are pretty good people and do their best, but like ALL people, they are not perfect.
We should try to not toss aside the very good in pursuit of the perfect.
It is not wise and prudent to amplify differences in age and perception and create a divide where none previously existed. President Trump, Owens, and many, many others are on the same team. Let us do our part by keeping it that way. JMHO
Candace Owens a rock star? Nah.
Agreed. She isn’t AOC but I dint fully trust her.
She talks too much in this interview. Way too many words. More questions fewer rambling speeches.
Have a point get to it
1) President Trump has said the truth is a force of nature. He means that the truth has a self-vindicating power and can be relied upon.
2) Put aside for a moment who has spoken in support of the mRNA injections, who is pro-mandate and who is anti-mandate?
President Trump has always been very sensitive to what the majority of Americans know. He knows that a great many are still stumbling around and in darkness because of the media’s constant lies.
They are beginning to wake up to the absurdity of endless injections. They don’t want to suffer being locked down any more than we do. They know that Biden is pro-mandate and Trump is anti-mandate. President Trump believes that once people know the truth, they will make the right decisions.
Abraham Lincoln said, You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time. This is the big picture leadership quality that Candace Owens lacks. President Trump knows he needs to carve out a space of time to allow the truth to be proven out, not the truth about the injections being horrible, but the truth that we have to stand up together to reject dictatorial government mandates. We need a critical percentage of the population to be in unity about this.
I only need to know that President Trump is anti-mandate. Abandon Candidate Trump? Not a chance.
Trump is making this too hard: simply remind folks that they have choices.
However, this action only “works” politically and morally if one stops begging for praise for the existence of the vaccines.
KISS!
“The public ire directed toward President Trump would be more appropriately targeted toward the professionals in the scientific and medical establishment…”
Ire is definitely warranted by in the case of the medical establishment. Criticism of Trump’s public support of the vaccines, which in some instances appears to deny reality and is stuck in the past, is not ire but disappointment and concern.
The government medical establishment must be held accountable by future administrations and that cannot be done without a clear-eyed view of the big COVID picture.
Would we be so accommodating were Trump to adopt a similar attitude toward the tools used by the intelligence community?
Now, the next President will have many things to deal with and being less than some would like on the COVID issue isn’t a deal breaker, but note that the same medical establishment culprits, left unpunished, will pivot to clinate change and gun control. They must be stopped and then held accountable, something made more difficult by a narrow opposition to mandates.
For me, it is the number 1 issue, as it is literally life or death. I have had a family member harmed by the jab. I’ve had another crying in social media because she had to take the jab or lose her job, which she can’t afford to lose. I will only consider voting for candidates who are on the right side of the vaccine issue.
A big part of the problem here is somewhere along the line they changed the definition of “vaccine.” Back in the day when people were vaccinated against polio they were good to go. They didn’t have the likelihood to develop a mild form of polio. They were safe and immune and that was that.
Perhaps you should read up on paralysis caused by the Sabin (live) polio vaccine which we no longer revommend in the U.S..
There was a blood feud between Salk and Sabin vaccine proponents, the former claiming a live polio vaccine conferred the risk of polio.
Point remains. Apparently there is a BIG difference between the old vaccines and these current gene therapy techniques masquerading as vaccines.
Fauxci, the CDC, and FDA changed the definition IIRC in 2019 and again in late 2020….it has been covered in some of the congressional hearings where the little imp’s lying has been spotlighted
What? Huh? This is what your federal government has come up with for you and your family to consider?
Would we also say that this is what your DOJ/FBI, capital police, university presidents, big city mayors and “journalists” have come up with for us? No, we call them out for their lies and crimes as did Trump at one time.
We have depended upon and want to continue to depend upon leaders like Trump, and the courageous renegades in the medical community, to expose the deadly lies of our benevolent FDA/CDC/NIH/WHO.
Trump’s stance lends legitimacy to these powerful organizations who have censored medical journals regarding proven treatments that would have saved countless lives. They have used medical and pharmaceutical boards to threaten, suspend and fire doctors who use these life-saving treatments.
The well-organized lies are causing death, disability and poverty whether via disease or the experimental shots.
No mandates were required for this carnage.
We need bold, clear, science-based leadership because only a small fraction of the population learns about any of these issues outside of the mainstream media which is now state-controlled media.
Come on Trump, shout about the VAERS data, the absolute uselessness of the quickly waning shots.
Quote professionals whose truthfulness is proven by their willingness to lose everything to do the right thing for their patients.
Right on bro! I kinda said pretty much the same. Glad to see I’m not the only one who feels this way.
Exactly right.
Emmanuel,
You’re clearly thinking too freely. Direction was provided to criticize Candice Owens, on the basis of ageism. 70%+ of commenters have obliged. Please consider doing the same, before the dark winter arrives in full.
Everyone knows billionaires check dozens of sites hourly, like the rest of us – there should not be any further discussion of this fact.
Thank You for your cooperation.
I bristled at his comments with Candace. Telling me if I refused to take ‘my vaccine’ that I may regret it.
All I can say is 2024 better have moved on from this $&@ subject and vaccine talk is as passé as is the Afghanistan withdrawal. I really don’t like his position but we’ll be into something else by then. He’s certainly better than anything the leftists have to offer.
And Ted cruz is still dead to me. Ron D will be continuing his legacy in FL so I’ll be behind DT should he be in the game.
I recall vividly when Governor DeSantis said, “Available for all, mandatory for none.”
I instantly thought “DANG did he think that up by himself? Even if he didn’t, he surrounds himself with some smart folks!”
Very statesman-like.
I like him, and would like to keep him for the remainder of his NEXT term, please? TY
Merry Christmas,
skipper
Really, do you think maybe he was replaced by a doppelganger? That might explain a lot. Now that I think of it, maybe it’s like when they replaced Paul McCartney (with a guy who looked just like Paul McCartney, sang just like Paul McCartney, and had all the same musical talent and genius as Paul McCartney)
I mean, if they could do that, they surely could find an exact Trump double to mouth these terrible comments about the vaccine.
Yeah, that’s the ticket
He is free to believe they have merit, or not.
He gave you the option, take it, or don’t take it.
Your choice
The Illegitimate election thief is the one that removed your choice.
Many forget, your Dr, even one you trust, is in the end just giving you his OPINION, ADVISE on what he/she thinks you should do.
The decision of taking or not taking the advice, is still YOURS.
A Politician is no different, except they are expressing their OPINION on what PUBLIC POLICY should be.
And Public policy should be NO MANDATES,….
PUBLIC POLICY should be no internet of media censorship, so people who wished, could access things like Barrington Declaration, Dr Malones ststements, Frontline Dr’s, etc.
But what actually BECOMES Public POLIcy, is decided thru the POLItical process, which is why POLIcy and POLItics have the same root.
PDJT is obviously not in favor of Internet and media censorship, and he is not in favor of mandates.
However, he’s not in office now, and when he was, he wasn’t a King or Dictator.
“The walrus was Paul.” To think that they found a left handed doppelganger … what are the odds!?
It was easier than finding a left handed walrus 🙂
What’s this about replacing Paul McCartney??
Back in the 60s (1969?) there was a brief media storm about Paul McCartney’s death and replacement in the Beatles by an unknown. If you are any kind of Beatles fan you would be doing yourself a great disservice if you didn’t research it further.
My own opinion is it was a moderately involved prank with all 4 Beatles in on it. There were many, many clues on the Beatles record jackets and some suspicious lyrics in songs where they were completely out of place. “Sergeant Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band” has the most clues but there are many on “Magical Mystery Tour”.
There was a song on “The White Album”, “Revolution #9” (?) where if you play the album backwards, all you hear is garbled words, until as plain as day, you hear John Lennon say, “Paul is a dead man.”. To play a record turntable backwards all you need is a belt drive model. Instead of a simple loop you use a long enough belt that will wind around the pulleys in a figure 8. The turntable will then spin backwards.
My senior year in high school, a female student did exactly this for what class I can’t remember. It probably was an AV Department industrial strength model turntable? I heard it myself.
My guess is the album was released and no one plays records backwards so a phone call was placed to some favorite Beatles disc jockey and the supposed fan told them what they had found.
Paul McCartney made a public statement aping Mark Twain’s famous , “The rumours as to my death are greatly exaggerated.”
I’m not concerned about Trumps position on the vaccine mandates.
The people that will get it, will get it.
That leaves the rest of us to make up our own minds as to whether this is our “hill”.
I would like to comment on the “he doesn’t use the internet for his own research.” quote.
Why in the hell couldn’t he sit down at a computer and look at the biographies and prior decisions of the people that he sent to the Supreme Court?
Plenty of the regular posters here have done research on judges and posted it here.
I could have built a profile on each of the nominees in an hour or so.
“He took the recommendations of others blindly” is not a valid excuse when the issue is a SC appointment that this country (if it survives) will be stuck with for another 40 years.
Just no excuse for those appointments.
The thinking among many, including me, is that President Trump was given a choice by Mitch to the effect of … “We’ll approve this one and no others. They’re conservative … enough. Any other choices you can expect me and a majority of the Senate Republicans to vote “no” “
Oh, I agree with your thinking 100% that he wasn’t given any choices, but what if Mitch had said “We will only approve an appointment if it is Barack Obama or Bill Clinton??
Would he still have said “Oh,well! and thrown his hands up? I don’t think so.
He may have done the only thing he could but THAT detail should have been addressed well before the vacancy arose.
The powers in the Swamp, have spent many, many years, shaping and manipulating the process, to disrupt the balance of Power, between the 3″co-equal” branches, weakening the POTUS, and strengthening CONGRESS.
This has occurred on MANY levels, including procedures, policies “rules” of Congress, etc.
Both Judicial and Cabinet appointments, down to sub and even sub-sub cabinet level, are now Senate confirmed.
Congress has worked assiduosly to make POTUS a figure head position, and largely succeeded.
“THIS is who can get confirmed” is the way Mitchs staff, would have communicated it to PDJT’s staff.
Precisely.
Correctamundo!
That’s BS, Auntie.
First, don’t believe the internet unless you have a known trusted source like Sundance.
Second, he has plenty of advisors. Sadly, many of them have been traitors.
Third, I happen to think President Trump is a hero. He put aside his wealth to try to help us all keep our country away from socialism/communism. It’s a shame that the corruption has been in place for so long.
Personally I hope he comes back, perhaps even as Speaker, to again try to set us straight.
A Congress full of GOP RINOS is going to vote Trump Speaker?
Nope.
But a Congress full of new America First winners might have a chance to do it.
I’ve seen him answer all kinds of questions on all kinds of topics for hours at a time.
Giving a Master Class performance of his personal command and knowledge of the issues till the media ran out of energy and cried uncle.
PRESIDENT TRUMP comes from a world where you hire the best and let them accomplish the task assigned to them.
He was fooled by the SAME people that have fooled US for so long.
Expecting him to read every decision a judge makes, then comparing it to statutes and case law v.s the evidence presented. Then second guessing the decisions using todays standards is not something that any president should be expected to do.
The CORRUPTED judicial committee in the CORRUPTED SENATE and the CORRUPTED HERITAGE FOUNDATION is responsible for our flawed candidates for the supreme court.
When you are a leader you must delegate. Leading our country is difficult and expecting Trump to be master of everything is naive.
Yes, its like expecting PDJT to “run” one of his resorts, by making every bed himself, cooking every meal and washing every dish, etc.
But, in private business, you hire the best, delegate, and promptly fire those who prove to be incompetent.
As POTUS, he had little choice in who he ‘hired’ was only given choices of those who were incompetent, traitors or both, and couldn’t fire.
His list of accomplishments is truly amazing, given the massive resistance he faced.
You fail to understand that the list of recommended SC candidates that was handed to him, is also incidentally the only candidates that McConnell will approve.
To paraphrase. “It’s not who recommends the candidates, it’s who confirms them.”
I ask you all to consider reading Robert Kennedy’s new book, “The Real Anthony Fauci.”
All of the assertions in the book are supported by documentation. Fauci has been corrupting medicine in the US since 1984, when he became the head of the NIAID.
If someone could give this book to one of Trump’s sons or someone who could broach this topic, it will be of help.
It’s a stunning book, only $2.99 on Amazon, Kindle version. He has so much money from Big Pharma backing him, neither Trump or anyone else can touch him. He defines the word Corrupt.
Apparently, Pres. Trump is supposed to disavow the vaccines because all of the death and injury they are causing. I think Candace is trying to explain that he doesn’t know that all that is going on. Just my take i don’t know. I guess some reps/conservaives are up in arms because he is peddling the vaccines. I could careless what anyone thinks about the vaccine itself it is the mandate portion which he doesn’t support, that I care about.
When she first started, she was bright, articulate and come across as honest. I believe she made an a$$ of herself in this interview. Sadly, she reminds me of so many others who with a little fame and following, get too big for their britches. She’s turned me away from listening to her when she continues this behavior that falls right into the Democrats who want us fighting amongst ourselves. THAT is what has to stop. From now on, I choose to disregard Candice Owens. My choice.
It’s because she threw in with the Ben Shapiro gang at the daily wire. They’re all never-Trumpers.
Exactly.
Exactly 💯
Eyes 👀 on the prize 🏁
If I could get her off to a cozy secluded mountain cabin … I could make her understand. Then, she’d be as right as rain.
LOL not a chance thiugh boogy.
Did you see the photo of her Sweet baby? She’s probably lucky to get away to the hairstylist and dentist… mountain cabins, highly unlikely
I like Candace
I love President Trump and will back him in whatever he does going forward. I will wait on Candace Owens and see just what shakes out. I don’t throw people away so fast. I saw her testify in front of Congress and she is highly intelligent and thinks fast on her feet. It’s on video.
Sometimes … the best thing you can do is nothing.
The TROLLS are swarming here tonight!
And correct the cerebrospinal fluid balance? Wasn’t that the premise?
(Love that movie. 😆)
She had blood, or whatever coming out of her eyes.
I can remember when S E Cupp came across as a conservative
I can remember when Mitt Romney did!
(Yep, I’m old…)
Trump also encouraged people to protest suspected election fraud. That’s about as dumb as it gets. Who protests when election fraud is suspected? Maybe a 2 year old? Are you going to protest the ethics of a thief as they rob your house?
We all live in our own cocoon so to speak and Trump kid no different. I highly doubt that he has the time to research, read or watch the many videos available on the internet that have opposing views. Trump was President and is responsible while he was there for the censorship of doctors and scientists who were saying over a year ago what is now playing out in front of us exposing the truth. Trump also allowed the changing of the Death Certificates and how anyone who died with Covid was viewed as dying because of Covid.
It doesn’t take a lot of research. He only has to look at the CDC’s Vaers website and see the number of deaths associated with these vaccines and ask, why are we allowing over 10,000 deaths when previous vaccines have been pulled after 50 deaths? Maybe a virus with the mortality of Ebola would justify such numbers. But Covid is not Ebola. Not even close.
Is President Trump also responsible for every felony committed by every medical person, hospital and clinic?
Have you read the expansion on the PREP Act?
https://www.phe.gov/Preparedness/legal/prepact/Pages/PREPact-NinethAmendment.aspx
I’m a bit older than Trump.
I use Lynx and code. That’s No excuse.
I could never, ever do what Trump was able to accomplish. Just examine what he was up against, even on his own team!
We were blessed to have him for four years. And hopefully for four more.
Well President Trump did say he’d take all these slings and arrows for you …
Okay, how’s this …”I got the vaccine because President Trump told me to”
Or how about …”All the other kids where jumping off the bridge …”
Or even better yet …”I was just following orders”
See where this is going? President Trump said at his inauguration that this was not just another 4 year election. It was about giving you, the American people your power back. Right now we have a decent chunk of our respective societies in lockstep with following orders. TV says gets vaccinated, and they get vaccinated. Just like “I was following orders, following Trump, following the TV …” There is a lesson to be learned here. What speaks volumes to me is the fact that so loyal supporters of President Trump are not getting vaccinated, and more so, are turning on President Trump.
I guess being in this brainwashed white supremacist cult isn’t quite fitting the narrative? When the grand leader of said cult is telling his loyal deplorables to get vaccinated and they’re telling him to get stuffed? See where this is going? Are you going to get vaccinated because President Trump told you to? or are you going to do your own research and make an informed decision on what to do with your own body?
I know it seems unreal that President Trump would promote the vaccines. But it cannot be denied his promotion has failed hard, by design? Time will tell. But if I was a betting man, I’d be putting my money on President Trump. Had he never operated in this way before, sure, but he’s been pulling these stunts since day squat. When it was aimed at the media we all cheered. Now its aimed at us, in a way, and those slings and arrows are aimed and firing at President Trump.
It is now proven beyond any doubt, that as loyal as loyal can be, and the MAGA movement is as loyal as it gets, but it ain’t stupid. Even the grand leader himself will find it impossible to convince his deplorables to get vaccinated. Do you realize what this says to the world? Million upon millions of people who love President Trump, will not, under any circumstances be getting vaccinated. Even if the man himself says so. What? But but I thought you was a white supremacist terrorist red white and blue deplorable, and you’re turning on your grand wizard?
Everything is not what it seems.
I’ve been on the Trump train since day 1. I wouldn’t take the shot if he came to my house and injected me himself!
I have never heard President Trump promote or say everyone should get the vaccine. He touts warp speed but has on several occasions said you have the choice and it’s not for everybody. If you misheard or read more into it, that’s on you (meaning “you” as a general term). President Trump had never told me to get the vaccine.
not just “several occasions”….any time the topic is broached he gives his support to the VAX AND the personal decisions to take or NOT…some people seem to be “fair-weather” friends looking for ANY reason to announce their opposition to PDJT…seems to me by doing so they also announce their opposition to FREEDOM
It seems to me that since it is clear that Our President has known from the start about the “side effects” of the depopulation poke but chose to go with it anyway since the alternative was 8-10 years of total economic lockdown leading to hundreds of millions of deaths, he also knows that we MAGA Patriots can figure out what he’s doing. How many millions of Normies are still walking around masked up and waiting in lines to get their “test” with a 90-95% false positive? Who is going to tell them otherwise when their main source of “news” is the Drive Bye Propaganda Media? When he pushes the Depopulation Poke, what does he ALWAYS say? It’s voluntary, it should not/cannot be mandatory, and there are therapeutics! In other words, CRITICALLY THINK THIS THROUGH PEOPLE! YOU DON’T HAVE TO TAKE IT! Who else being covered by the Drive Byes is saying this? That’s right, he’s it. Rasmussen says that we’re pushing 60% who are at least beginning to wake up. We know that when we hit 60-65%, a major trigger for The Great Awakening will have been achieved. It’s working. The plan is working…
The essential thing, the existential battle, is that America cannot fall under dictatorial government mandates.
We, vaxxed and unvaxxed, have to resist being divided and stand up for individual rights. We have the power to not comply. It is an awesome power and the One Worlders greatly fear it. We must have the courage to take it up. President Trump is telling us that we must take action and do our part.
Treatment AND voluntary vaccination should be our message. It is very difficult not to become antivax simply because the vaccines are being used in a broader war on liberty.
Yep, more focus on denial of liberty and freedom under color of law by the fascist collaboration between government and corporations. Those are the humans who are the enemies. The system is good. The concept of vaccination is good. The humans are bad. They are the virus that’s destroying our nation. Trump knows this. They attempted to destroy him in record time. I’m impressed they didn’t kill him. Perhaps his moderation is predicated on his continued breathing at the pleasure of Branch 4. I wouldn’t be surprised at all.
Trump Damage Control Proposal:
Fly Dr. Malone and other Therapeutic greats to Mar a Lago.
Photo opp with the covid greats and conference.
The internet will do the rest.
Yes, If he were seen meeting with Malone, Vanden Bossche, Kory, McCullough, Cole, Tyson and others who got it right, it would be a great help.
For one thing, the Establishment Misleadia would shriek themselves to death.
For one thing, the Establishment Misleadia would shriek themselves to death.
Yep. They are literally coming unhinged over the meat puppet in chief getting trolled over LGB on Christmas Eve on live television. I suspect we’d see several stroke outs if he did meet with them.
I thing people are just trying to get Trump to say something negative about the vaccine and boosters. That would be beneficial for Dimms. Now I have to ask myself if Candace is baiting Trump.
Her follow up and interview cover up excuses brings her into the light of being a Never Trumper.
It’s the only logical conclusion.
She did it to herself twice over.
It must have been intentional so therefore self revelatory.
Never Trumper it is then.
Here’s how I see it, if he actually believes that these experts are still worth a crap to listen to, then I have a real problem with that. It is painfully obvious they are awful and should all be fired as they continue to recommend obviously awful, inhumane measures, and are constantly wrong.
That being said, saying vaccine good mandate bad is the best political move. People who have taken the vaccine don’t want to be told that was the wrong (and irreversible) move. People who are against the vaccine are generally more ok with its existence and the bigger fight is mandates to keep it out of their own body. If Trump is anti mandate but pro vaccine he gets all the anti mandate votes while not losing any pro vaccine votes he had a shot with. Especially since the dem will 100% be pro lockdown and Trump will be able to say I made these vaccines happen, I didn’t put mandates in before, and I won’t put them in now.
The mandates are a bigger problem than the vaccine itself, because the mandate is both the mandate *and* the vaccine. The vaccine can be ignored, the mandate has to be fought or given in to.
Oh, gee, there it is.
Common sense.
What I would like to know is whether the jab is being mandated for the employees of the Trump Organization and if said organization is enforcing passports in any jurisdiction they are located in that has one. His stance toward his own employees and customers will tell me a lot more about whether he is trustworthy on opposing mandates and passports than an interview.
Are businesses in NY legally mandated to employ injected personnel?
Unsure of status, but it looks like Trump’s NYC hotel is enforcing passports against their guests.
Candace Owens is articulate and I’ve generally admired her but she’s of very little significance to me. Donald Trump may be getting up in years but his absolutely <i>tour-de-force</i> campaigning in the summer and fall of 2020 was totally awe-inspiring. Many people half his age couldn’t have done what he did – and even in the wake of being hospitalized for Covid FFS! I truly believe the victory he earned and deserved was stolen from him. But having said that, I think his pride of Operation Warp Speed may be clouding his judgement, and I really do think it was hubris that made him exaggerate the vaccines’ efficacy as well as deny their deleterious effects in that interview. IMO he needs to do better in commenting on these realities, and understand it doesn’t detract from HIS achievement that current <i>vaccine policy/i>, as much if not more than the vaccines themselves, are problematic. More individualized, personal medical consideration needs to be implemented now that we know more about these shots and their effects. A tendency towards grandiosity is always evident in political leaders – it goes with the territory – and we probably should admit Donald Trump is no exception.
He will never be able to clean out the government. With the exception of Rick Adelman, McConnell used the Senate confirmation process to blackball every single person whose politics coincided with Trump’s. The single most telling fact in his 4 years in office is that the Senate never recessed, denying him the ability to fire and hire through recess appointments. And all it would have taken to end the farce was having one senator voice an objection. Just one.
AND IT DID NOT HAPPEN.
I had hoped Rand Paul would be the one but he did not.
I sure wish some interviewer would ask him about that. He certainly does a lot interviews, but apparently no one has the balls to press Paul on the question.
As I remember, he said he would sell them (as in encourage), not mandate them.
Sundance….BRILLIANT ANALYSIS!
This is what I think. Trump had to do something and he trusted to medical establishments. He still believes it was the best thing for the country as a whole. I can’t fault him that. He treated the country as united federalist states- remember how states had to find their own masks, tests and ventilators? He also believes in personal freedom. I still like Trump.
Candace O is way too young and arrogant to make these comments about a man who has been in the fire for 4 years. I smell some wokeness and sentiments that do not have a place in the MAGA movement.
She did it to herself
She is Never Trumper
Awaiting the next opportunity for subtle subterfuge
Or just out right opportunity for opposition.
Cruz
Pompeo
The uniparty possibilities are numerous.
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Donald Trump most assuredly is capable of using the internet and doing his own research. Hydroxychloroquine, anyone? And to the extent he doesn’t have time, he has plenty of people giving him information.
First, everyone needs to look at what was going on through the entire year, attacking and pulling at Trump from every possible direction. In the midst of this, he repeatedly attempted to end the lockdowns “by Easter” (remember?) as well as posit potential therapeutics, all while trying to keep people from panicking. Meanwhile, the shenanigans escalated. One hero surrounded by veritable armies of the opposition, and the fake loyal on all sides.
Second, yes the information Trump was getting also was complicated and very mixed. And, this occurred over a period of time that overlapped a lengthier period of time in which he had been working hard to get Pharma to repatriate manufacturing back from China and Australia to the United States, notable Puerto Rico.
Third, yes Trump has an ego, and yes, he’s somewhat of a germophobe, as well as medicine being completely outside of his bailywick. They said they could do a vaccine; they had been working on similar for years. This had the promise of stopping the Covid shenanigans — economy destruction, school closings, deaths, and upcoming voting issues — in its tracks. It HAD to be tried. Warp Speed was less about development and more about manufacturing and delivery. Donald Trump had no choice.
Fourth. At this point, many millions of Trump’s base have irrevocably voluntarily taken the clotshot, which, if you recall, first was dissed by the left. Anything Trump supports they’re against. He canNOT come out and say, oh sorry, I was duped and you were poisoned. Too late. It’s irreversible. MEANWHILE, Trump currently is out of office. He has no power to stop mandates or anything else. He has to get elected again. This is one super hot issue that goes off the table and doesn’t waylay all the others in an election as far as the Dems go — what are they going to do, run ads “against” him saying that he supports the vaccine they’re now mandating? From a health standpoint, were Trump to speak out against the vaccines now not only would carry no weight and accomplish nothing, it would place him into that hotseat in a multiplicity of ways.
Fifth, yes, Trump is absolutely wrong about the vaccine having saved millions of lives — but the left cannot come out and say this! Also, he is wrong about the Spanish Flu. Young healthy soldiers and others died from (1) cytokine storms and (2) secondary bacterial pneumonia, for which at the time we had no antibiotics. This again trolls the left, which is helpless given its positions, to attack him on. So he may as well brag about the manufacturing success. It’s trolling. But again, remember, to the extent harms have been perpetrated, bad fake vaccine, people at risk who eagerly took it, etc., the damage already is done. I personally wish he would shut up and avoid the entire subject, but I will defer to a more experienced negotiator who knows that whichever way he goes, he’s in a “wrong” position and has to calculate and game out the least worst path.
Finally, notwithstanding the anger and dismay of many, myself included, over the damn vaccines (and everything other injustice and atrocity we’ve lived through), remember that we are in a war. Sometimes the strategy that will win in the end is going to look very confusing and messy and have casualties. Sometimes there is no easy way forward without a downside. The bottom line is: assuming Donald Trump is willing and able to run in 2024, (and yes, he and his entire family have been under continuous threat too) no matter what his flaws, scars, or imperfections, there simply is no one better.
i just think a country lockdown from March 2020 – beyond the Nov 2020 election (no vaccine) would have changed how we view America entirely.
I’m not sure America would still be here.
And i think humans lives are desposable in places other than America.
I agree with most of your comments but tend to think “the millions of lives saved” that he refers to are those that would have been lost to famine, poverty and despair we could have had while waiting 10-12 years for a “real vaccine” under tyrannical communist rule by WEF types. Who knows if they would have even made a vaccine once we were all under their thumb.
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That is a good point; thank you.
He also said, REPEATEDLY “The treatment can NOT be worse than the disease!”
Candace Owens is flat wrong. What better solutions are there at this point than allowing people to make their own choices regarding covid treatment. Trump is simply recognizing that our “official” covid bureaucracy has thus far undedperformed. The efficacy of our vaccines are now revealed as being a questionable—fortunately the new variation appears to be mild. It is Trump’s fault that we’ve been let down by the Deep State?
We should have been listening to Dr. Scott Atlas. The truth is out there.
As for me, I’m not wearing a stupid mask. I’m of practice limiting my interactions with others (not a real problem since I’m retired). I’ve had a booster shot and will take another—I had no adverse reactions to getting multiple vaccinations. I simply do not trust what I am hearing. Thus I have a good supply of hydroxyanthraquinone along with a good supply of zinc and zpac. If I get sick, Texas has established therapeutic stations that I can go to. We’ll just have to hope for the best because the “official” information we’re getting is highly questionable.
Good points Garrison,
The vaccine hoax facts, presented by many, but summarized in great form by Robert F. Kennedy Jr., prove that the vaccine hoax has been in the works for decades with conspirators in and out of governments across the world.
They are well organized into a criminal enterprise funded by the globalist.
They were here well before President Trump and we will be cleaning out the last residue of the crime syndicate years after President Trump’s third term ends. It will be similar to cleaning out the last of the Japanese on the remote islands in the Pacific at the end of WWII and the hitler criminals in South America.
We thank President Trump for bringing the light of freedom back into the United States to expose this evil globalist conspiracy against our country and our people.
As bad as 2020 was, he got us in and out of the coup plotter’s schemes, with God’s guidance, very quickly which destroyed their plans.
“Let’s go Brandon!”
I still don’t understand what people expect President Trump to do.
He took all the credit for “creating” the vaccines. He used Operation Warp Speed” as one of his talking points in his rallies.
Now, does anyone think he will say, “oh my bad… I was wrong..”? Of course he won’t.
He is in the Covid-19 vaccines wagon, he can’t get off now. He is doing the best by not supporting mandates and he always tried to offer alternatives like Hydroxychloroquine.
I will not get the vaccines but I still support President Trump. I will not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
people are having an impossible time of accepting the lockdown dont end, and democrats dont crawl out of their hiding places unless a vaccine exist (good or bad, healthy or deadly)
We’ll keep President Donald Trump and throw the bath 🛁 water 💧 on the uniparty Republicans in order to reveal them for what they are…
Anti-MAGA Never Trumpers that hate proMAGA Americans
Absolutely. He did the right thing at the time.
Pharma failed us. The institutions failed us.
Now it is extremely clear that the system is broken.
Today the government comes with solutions based on lies.
Pharma business model is based on lies.
Reputations are based on lies.
Investigations are based on lies.
The most important thing today is to speak the truth.
Nothing else matters.
Yes he trusted people and institutions that a President has the duty to trust.
PDJT is the best president I have ever seen but he doesn’t seem to understand that they lie to him.
And as a society we can not survive if we keep trusting those institutions.
I used to love Candace Owens and JD Vance until I started seeing them both pop up on Tucker regularly. It really made me wonder what was up. Tucker seems to be a never Trumper and he goes to the edge of “something wrong with the 2020 election” etc but never actually commits to it.
Wouldn’t it be great if someone with his platform actually looked into it instead of promoting people that want to gloss it over and just talk about the next election.
Overturning the fraudulent 2020 election……… is it.
I’d be wary of JD.
I love President Trump but we all knew that the Snake of Big Government, including Big Pharma, was a dangerous snake that would never allow President Trump to succeed. Options were likited, roadblocks set up everywhere, but MAGA’s issue was that Trump was/is surrounded by Snakes.
imagine America without a vaccine.
in context.
Before November 2020, President Trump did say several times something along the lines of Big Pharma hating him. He had to force Pfizer to admit because of his Operation Warp Speed, that they they had been funded his administration to develop and produce the vaccine; also, Pfizer wanted to wait until after the election to admit the vaccines were available, but Trump made them admit it beforehand.
Candice maybe right to some extent but not 100%. President Trump is a curious man and he may know much more than meets the eye. So, he is telling us half truth. I am sure that if he had a group of doctors and scientists in a room for few hours to tell him how much the “vaccine” he ordered to be done in a very short time failed, he will rethink his view. BUT, to be able to get out of an argument with the current regime he tells us he is for this inefficient “vaccine” BUT not for mandating it.
Operation warp speed gave us vaccines in 9 months instead of 5 to 12 years. All they did was to cut out the years needed to validate the drug for side effects and effectiveness. Cutting corners is never a good things when it comes to your health.. I voted for DJT twice but felt this was crazy. No jab for me.
and need to stay locked down.
No jab for me, either. But a lot of the approval process, for ANYTHING the govt regulates, is inefficient, wasteful and takes too long.
Recall part of his “cutting regulations, 2 for 1” was reducing the time neccesary for highway projects, some of which were delayed 20 years.
He said, both for such projects and Vax, no cutting SAFETY, just needless, time wasting duplicative or unneccesary b.s.
He never said “Damn the safety concerns, get the vax, even if it doesn’t work, and kills people!”
He relied on the “experts” to know which delays they could cut, and which were essential.
Perzactly!
What do Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro and JD Vance all have in common?
They were/are all Never Trump Ted Cruz supporters.
Once a Never Trumper, always a never trumper. You can *NEVER* trust a Never Trumper. For anything. They are deceptive, conniving, scheming, manipulative con artists and grifters. Period.
If you doubt, just wait…. they will always out themselves, eventually.
You see it’s not a matter of supporting Ted Cruz or Donald Trump per se’, but rather an issue of knowing who exactly Ted Cruz and Donald Trump are. All of the Never Trumper’s are not stupid people. They know exactly who Ted Cruz is, and they know he leads a tribe of manipulative, lying, conniving, scheming, deceptive and grifting group.
The difference between Never Trump and the original Trump supportive base, is the support of the Never Trumper’s can be purchased, but they can never be trusted.
However, the original Trump supportive base *cannot* be purchased (for any price), they can smell bullshit before most, and they can be trusted to remain consistent because it’s not about Trump, it’s about ANTI-CORRUPTION. THAT is the distinction.
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“Let’s go Brandon!”
Exactly 💯
It’s really obvious once you get used to accepting their actions reveal the thoughts and and intents of their natures!
“All of the Never Trumper’s are not stupid people. They know exactly who Ted Cruz is, and they know he leads a tribe of manipulative, lying, conniving, scheming, deceptive and grifting group.”
Which is why many people that know the real Ted Cruz would never vote for him.
Michael R. Caputo told me about a court case many years ago that a man won against a company or government, the particulars escape me.
Ted Cruz represented the losing defendant. Mr. Caputo was in the courtroom to hear Mr. Cruz tell the plaintiff that he would never live to see a penny of the settlement because of the legal obstacles such as appeals, etc. that he was going to do to prevent him from obtaining his rightful settlement.
It’s about anti-corruption.
You gave that nail a throbbing pot-knot.
President Trump defeated 17 top row RINOs in the 2016 primaries.
Senator Cruz was one of them.
He was throughly vetted during those months.
That information is publicly available and you should do your own research.
You should also get up to date with the areas in the senate where Senator Cruz helped or hurt the MAGA agenda. Not sure where your backup is for your “persona non grata among the Decepticons” statement.
“Let’s go Brandon!”
Watch the video of Cruz, at the 2016 Republican convention,…AND do the research to put it in context.
Cruz was the LAST arrow in the RNC quiver, to try to stop DJT, during the primaries, cause even THEY didn’t like him, but by that point they were desperate.
LOLOL …just like the “Great One” as Shammity calls him Cruz CLAIMS to be a “constitutional scholar” except they fail to abide by its framework when there is NO advantage in it for them…Cruz’s ILLEGAL POTUS run in 2016 was done KNOWING he was ineligible to serve in that capacity and NEVER would be….but wait it gets worse, Cruz for all the good he does is ILLEGALLY occupying a US Senate seat…what do you call a person born in Canada to two Canadian citizens….a CANADIAN citizen….read the US Constitution Article I for qualifications fo Senator…one of them is to be a US citizen…Lil’ Ted’s records have been hidden but NO revealed CLBA or naturalization papers meaning there is NO proof of his US citizenship….just like all the “anchor babies” we are to just believe it is so except he doesn’t even have the benefit of birth on US Soil
You have equated DeSantis supporters with Cruz supporters – one could infer from your negative comments about Cruz above (with which I do not disagree) that you see DeSantis in a similar light. Could you please elaborate on that? I, for one, do not see DeSantis as a lying, conniving, scheming, grifting, manipulator.
Look into Heidi Cruz’s connections with the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and her role in supporting the North American Union.
That is a pretty bold statement you make about former Cruz supporters – a not insignificant number who helped elect Trump, stood by him during leftist political persecutions and now support our President in the aftermath of the steal. In many ways I (we) did and do this.
I supported Cruz at the time because he best represented my core Constituionalist and Western heritage beliefs. And then I supported Trump for the same reasons. The nature of my support for Trump evolved as the nature of the threat became more clear and in focus to me.
And so … we have this disagreement about vaccines – which President Trump facilitated via Operation Warp Speed: quick to the market, completely inadequate testing (unsafe), tort protection for the makers and now growing pressure for mandates among the political and business alliances of the world.
I see Trump favors choice. Great, as far as that goes. Circumstances require more than generic support for choice. Defense of his base against tyrants who impose mandates of his Gene Therapy” is called for, given the nature and force of the threat. Americans are suffering and he needs to recognize that.
I support principles – basic, bedrock, fundamental, patriotic principles. President Trump by far best embodies those principles. But he is not the only one. Nor is it impossible for him to make a mistake. Nor should anyone hesitate to call him out when he does so. That’s politics.
Sundance, I’m very grateful you weighed in on JD Vance. I’ve been wondering for quite a while who the splitters are in that all-important Ohio 2022 Senate race.
Young Josh Mandel talks an excellent game but he did choke when Bannon asked if he would pledge not to vote for the Turtle as speaker.
Due mostly to your tutelage, that’s the sort of “tell” I always try to remember!
I did not realize Candace was for Cruz or that she might be a Never/Trumper. That changes her comment entirely to damage Trump.
Candace is an important voice for our side and I suspect she regrets this pretty silly take. Like Trump, no one us perfect.
Regarding that silly take, I know plenty of young people Candace’s age who, while imagining themselves to be oh so tech savvy, are completely unwilling to search for internet voices outside of the government and MSM. And the most COVID-informed man in my fomer Bible study is in his 90s.
President Trump did what he had to do in 2020, and even then, he was criticized relentlessly by the left who panned his vaccine development. But it turns out that, even though it was reflexive, the left was right about the efficacy of the shots. Biden gave Trump credit. Now Trump needs to credit Biden for being right when he said he wouldn’t receive the shot(s). After all, they don’t work, and they’re open-endedly dangerous. He doesn’t actually need to denounce the shots, he should just call for a moratorium.
Thank you for being such a thoughtful voice SUNDANCE!
It’s frustrating when people disagree with me, especially when I know I’m right.
It is never helpful to attack them personally because I think they are wrong.
Candace was a libtard once, and still uses libtard attack strategies when she doesn’t get her way.
She said she wanted to be president once.
She has alot of growing up to do before that will ever happen.
I wish her a safe journey.
I heard Ted Cruz mention the other day that he thinks he is a good candidate for president in 2024! NOT! We only have our wonderful President Trump.
I’m a NEVER TEDDY!
NOT ONE RECESS APPOINTMENT!
VOTE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM OUT!
you should really add NOT eligible
Sundance posted a very funny article on that. Cruz 2024 – As if!
I remember Trump doing everything he could to get everyone what they needed based on the information he had. He was the only one looking and speaking about alternative therapies and he was the only one pushing to get our country open. They laid a trap and convinced him millions would die and he followed their advice. He does not have a medical degree and he probably could not fathom how deep and disgusting the swamp really was even when it stared him in the face and shouted see me! We are the same, how long have we shrugged and said government is corrupt, they aren’t doing as they should yet turned around and gone back for more instead of standing up and forcefully fighting to clean it up. How many lies did we believe and defend? How many people have we pinned our hopes on without doing due diligence to find out who they really are or to follow what they were really doing once in office? How much of where we are is our fault?
We keep hoping someone else will save us, will take all the risks, make all the sacrifices and will do all the dirty hard work so we don’t have to.
Trump is one man and he did what he could and played by the rules even when it cost him. The other side does not play by the rules and the fact we do puts us at a huge disadvantage.
I was unsure about Trump but saw no other option and now, even knowing of some of his flaws I would vote for him again in a NY minute. Stop circling the wagons and shooting in.
“Waiting for someone else to do the dirty work ” is not what’s happening. We were told to start locally to take over entities like school boards and that HAS been happening, but it isn’t as if we are up against a few dumb Democrats. We are up against super-evil that tames even President Trump.. iI you read the book promoted at the beginning of this thread, The Real Anthony Fauci, you will be stunned and amazed how impotent we are, in the face of evil way, way,way beyond any we might have an arsenal against. It’s why President Trump “plays nice” when he says get vaccinated. His life is at stake every minute!
Yes, regardless of security, Trump’s and his family’s life are at stake every minute and have been since he became a serious threat to the global political machine.
We can wait for salvation by others. Little doubt there were a majority of colonists who felt the same way about the British back during revolutionary times. Or citizens in the Soviet bloc nations during the decades of Soviet rule.
Absent revolution, I expect it to take generations to eliminate the current scourge by a marked minority of humans. That’s unremarkable. Peaceful solutions often take enormous amounts of time.
We’ve seen how long the enemy has been infiltrating and manipulating our institutions right down to that local school board. They didn’t use guns. They used words, coordinated and communicated and stayed on mission for decades. Reality. Here we are.
PDJT was our canary in the coal mine. He warned us, particularly those of us who haven’t seen this coming for decades. The rest is up to us.
The problems started decades ago and many did not stand and fight until recently. It cannot be undone in a few months or even years. But it can be undone if we fight together and not against each other. The goal is to restore Liberty to the American people and remove government power from those who have misused, abused or should plain not have it. Everyone will approach that battle differently but that should be the only goal we all work toward.
He promotes the experimental gene therapies. He is not neutral and that worries people because they are dangerous and ineffective.
Add to that, when anyone with a platform says take them it reinforces mandates because it feeds the narrative that they are a public good.
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Maybe. Maybe not (what Trump is for, the left usually is against, albeit this might be different.) Let’s game out the possible outcomes if Trump were to come out now and say that he was fooled about the vaccines. Would that influence the left? Would that end the mandates? Would that reassure “the base”? (Where are all the Republican politicians? Even DeSantis hasn’t criticized the vaccines.)
Bingo
Read a ton about the shots. IMHO, the narrow band mRNA treatments probably did stop the Alpha (it’s gone from circulation)- and the alpha being the engineered one from the lab was the most (engineered and unnatural) dangerous. And there is truth in the Trump assertion this could have been ‘really bad’ perhaps without the shots, but that now is an unknowable. As predicted by the shot experts (not Fauci), however, the mutations (always present everywhere) selected around the narrow band treatment, hence the delta, omni, etc. Being the natural course of progression for survival – the most contagious and least harmful, selected again – there is natural pecking order for virus survival – to spread the fastest. It’s endemic now and we will never reach ‘zero’ covid. The pandemic is over. But forcing the youthful cohort 5-11 and college age is a terrible terrible terrible public health mistake. The Russian roulette of mRNA injury in this essentially no risk covid cohort far exceeds the risk/benefit informed consent balance. That is the, what I consider, criminal action right now.
Parents can choose not to get their kids vaccinated. That is our only hope, going forward, as far as I can see.
Maybe I will get Covid, but I’ve known MANY who got it and happily now have natural immunity. That’s my hope for me, now.
You are one of the people for whom I hope the Moronic turns out to be the natural immunity Christmas gift some of the good doctors are predicting it will be.
I paid a steeper price for my new natural immunity by getting through delta, which I would not recommend to anyone. But the Moronic looks very manageable.
Thank you! You worded that so eloquently and correctly. I personally am tired of supposed Trump supporters bashing him because of this very stable and non-controversial stance on vaccines. He has consistently stated that people always had and should have a choice to utililize them or not. A former President or even current President doesn’t have that much control over government organizations.
The NeverTrump Lincoln Pedophiles and democrats need a wedge issue to divide us. Don’t fall for it.