In an effort to keep the Daily Open Thread a little more open topic we are going to start a new daily thread for “Presidential Politics”. Please use this thread to post anything relating to the JoeBama Administration and Presidency.
“This is no small thing, to restore a republic after it has fallen into corruption. I have studied history for years and I cannot recall it ever happening. It may be that our task is impossible. Yet, if we do not try then how will we know it can’t be done? And if we do not try, it most certainly won’t be done. The Founders’ Republic, and the larger war for western civilization, will be lost.”
“But I tell you this: We will not go gently into that bloody collectivist good night. Indeed, we will make with our defiance such a sound as ALL history from that day forward will be forced to note, even if they despise us in the writing of it.”
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Whenever the possibility presents, throw sand into the machinery…
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As I meditate on the whole problem of mandates and fines, the following article generated some thoughts, especially regarding businesses, esp. smaller health care…who essentially run their balance sheets on government grants, handouts and other federal funds.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-11-08-biden-threatens-businesses-with-govt-vaccine-gestapo-door-to-door-enforcement.html#
There must be an awful lot of businesses, smaller ones, that keep Americans employed…who receive federal grants in amounts that, if with held by Washington DC (or by way of ‘mandate fines’, would put them either out of business or teetering on bankruptcy.
Which brings to mind, the old EF Hutton commercial (someone resurrected it a week or so ago, but its true, beholden to no one….”We make money the old fashioned way, we earn it.”.
We make it a practice to avoid doing government contracts, and decline their requests for bids.
We experienced what happens when a county goes from ag-driven economics to being grant-driven. It’s not pretty, as we are witnessing now on a national scale.
Then they can’t boss you around!
I currently work in a health care entity that ‘demands’ 100% compliance in audits, for their federal dollars.
No human can consistently do 100% perfection 100% of the time and the feds know that.
If I am not mistaken, the grant process in healthcare, due to the (un)affordable care act, made the first years easy peasy so easy that some hospitals were giving the nurses bonuses. Fast forward 2 and four years later, the demands were for ‘more’ things to watch and do, with lower grants, if I am not mistaken. Which also lead to less staff hiring. That old nasty balance sheet had to be revamped to accommodate the lower revenues….meaning the cash flow needed had to come from somewhere.
Not a business person here, only my speculations based on what I have seen, heard and experienced…while trying to learn about finance as it pertains to me and my shrinking wallet.
Girl, I hear you about that wallet.
The worst thing about doing business with the govt. or big corporate is they slow pay, sometimes into the next business quarter. Soooo tacky.
Wise are those who warn of the strings attached to “government money. ” Like all “free money,” there are always strings attached. In this case it looks like ever-tightening bands.
I think for patients and health care professionals things will move to tele-meds and concierge practices.
Too many people (yes Americans as well as foreign born) are out for what ever they can get for FREE. Anything and everything. The problem with all the “free” stuff is NOTHING IS FREE. IT ALL COMES WITH A COST. Just because YOU don’t have to pay for it, someone else is paying for it. I’m not talking about social security…..most of us pay into that from the first day we start work, but I’m talking about all those who have a “GIMME GIMME”. Whether or not you have money, a job, or family help, it is all about the FREE STUFF…..that someone has to pay for, just not you. Most of the truly poor folks do not want the free stuff. They have more pride and want to work for what they need and want.
From the BBC ( a tribe of white elites, ergo: a cult )
Basingstoke ‘It’s okay to be white’ posters spark investigation
… Posters saying “It’s okay to be white” have sparked a police hate crime investigation. …
Resident Priya Brown said: “These tactics are divisive and they have no place in today’s world.” …
A spokesperson for the police force said they were liaising with local community groups as part of the investigation.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-59179914
The author wrote 2 more essays entitled the Covidian Cult:
https://consentfactory.org/2020/10/13/the-covidian-cult/
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McConnell ‘Delighted’ Congress Passed $1.2 Trillion So-Called Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/11/08/mitch-mcconnell-delighted-congress-passed-1-2-trillion-so-called-bipartisan-infrastructure-bill/
Of course he is.
And one day, he will stand before God and find out, he ain’t all that after all.
A pox upon him, his house and his spawn.
I’d like to see the accounting of the bribery and kickback part of the bill.
List of states and more details here.
https://www.vectorsolutions.com/resources/blogs/osha-basics-osha-approved-state-plans/
I did not know he’s the 4th!
Isn’t “global central banking” an oxymoron? Maybe no more pretending?
That just means that they are hoping the U.N. will take over all the banks as well as the countries that don’t want to be taken care of by them…..they like their own system….just like most Americans do.
Can someone confirm if this is a valid defense? I saw this posted in a non-vax job listing for WA state:
20m··Canada News
IF YOUR BOSS THREATENS YOU WITH FIRING IF NOT VACCINATED DON’T REFUSE:
The secret is NOT to refuse the jab and do not sign anything!
From a lawyer:
If you are being forced to Vax in order to keep your job, here’s a great way to handle it. (Conditional acceptance)
The secret is NOT to refuse it.
“I write with regard to the matter of potential covid vaccine and my desire to be fully informed and appraised of ALL facts before going ahead. I’d be most grateful if you could please provide the following information, in accordance with statutory legal requirements.”:
1. Can you please advise the approved legal status of any vaccine and if it is experimental?
2. Can you please provide details and assurances that the vaccine has been fully, independently and rigorously tested against control groups and the subsequent outcomes of those tests?
3. Can you please advise the entire list of contents of the vaccine I am to receive and if any are toxic to the body?
4. Can you please fully advise of all the adverse reactions associated with this vaccine since it’s introduction?
5. Can you please confirm that the vaccine you are advocating is NOT experimental mRNA gene altering therapy?
6. Can you please confirm that I will not be under any duress from yourselves as my employers, in compliance with the Nuremberg Code?
7. Can you please advise me of the likely risk of fatality, should I be unfortunate to contract Covid 19 and the likelihood of recovery?
8. Can you please advise me if I were to experience any adverse reactions is the manufacturer of the vaccine liable? If the manufacturer isn’t liable will the company I’m currently employed with with be responsible & liable as it is their request that I have the vaccine in order to carry on my employment?
Once I have received the above information in full and I am satisfied that there is NO threat to my health, I will be happy to accept your offer to receive the treatment, but with certain conditions – namely that:
1. You confirm in writing that I will suffer no harm.
2. Following acceptance of this, the offer must be signed by a fully qualified doctor who will take full legal and financial responsibility for any injuries occurring to myself, and/or from any interactions by authorized personnel regarding these procedures.
3. In the event that I should have to decline the offer of vaccination, please confirm that it will not compromise my position and that I will not suffer prejudice and discrimination as a result?
I would also advise that my inalienable rights are reserved.
The point is that if they CANNOT provide that information you’ve NOT refused.
Not a lawyer, but this seems like garbage.
Agree: the actual situation for “emergency use authorization” is very clearly spelled out in 21 USC §360bbb-3, which among other things states that you may either give informed consent … having been fully informed … or you may refuse for any or no reason. Both this law and plenty of settled precedent make it very clear that your body belongs to you, and that only you may decide what is done to it or put into it, if anything at all.
Especially in the EUA case, mandates, pressure, coercion, any adverse consequences, or threats of any of the foregoing, are expressly illegal.
Thank you for this clarification.
SOLUTION : you file an EEOC complaint saying that you are being treated as if you have a disability (a perceived future disability of catching covid).
thats discrimination.
if you need exact language ask again.
I like the “idea”, but can almost guarantee that no employer will ever agree with it or use it.
Found this to be a very informative video on Rumble, 1 hr 50 min long, a meeting of the group Association of American Physicians and Surgeons where they talk about their experience of in-office treatment of their patients.
about 1 hr 8 minutes in, in response to a question, they start giving their experiences of treating their patients who have had side effects from the vaccines.
https://rumble.com/vovlik-office-based-treatment-of-covid-infections.html
I posted this way back up stream on this thread and thought one more posting would save folks who do not read the entire thread some time .
Thought I would save folks the trouble of looking to see if their state had an OSHA agreement, as does the State of AZ. Look here.
https://www.osha.gov/stateplans/
If your state does not now have a comprehensive State Level agreement, time to tell them to get one.
Marxist controlled states will not do it
Ironically, almost all of the self-policing states are Blue states. The Red states are those that tried to save money by defaulting to Federal enforcement.
Thanks for the information.
There is no way the blue states will do a State Level Agreement now, and possibly even some red states. Would like to see it happen
TY!!
This makes me physically sick.
Saturday Night Live doing a parody on abortion with a clown.
This administration and its supporters are beyond the pale.
They are all among those going to Hell. Unless they turn away from their master, Satan, before death.
No, they are evil people and they gonna pay at the hand of God Almighty.
And we should not be giving these scum suckers clicks on their You Tube site.
Nice to see the duplicity in so-called conservative leaning news media exposed:
https://dossier.substack.com/p/two-faced-fox-news-newsmax-go-above
Maybe his saline shot was switched for the real thing.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/gov-gavin-newsom-moderna-booster-vaccine/?itm_term=home
Maybe the Satan’s mob is done with him?
white hats ops ?????
For those who are interested in some behind-the-scenes regarding the AZ audit, here’s a 5 part interview with Doug Logan of CyberNinjas revealing some unexpected challenges and summarizing what he considers the most important take aways.
https://wendyrogers.org/arizona-today-interview-with-doug-logan-ceo-of-cyber-ninjas/
Anybody here still think we can just go back to the GOP and all will be well?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jim-jordan-allies-proposed-redistricting-map
This is a REPUBLICAN governor doing this. The Uniparty scum are everywhere. Everywhere!
“Anybody here still think we can just go back to the GOP and all will be well.”
Nope….. hasn’t been well with the GOPe for decades …….
Why am I absolutely never, ever surprised.
GOP just as guilty as the Dems. Most, not all, are guilty.
Still don’t understand why people follow any political “party”. It isn’t a party, and they are just following the ‘leader’ cause they have no thoughts of their own. None of them can ever be considered leaders….they are all followers, either D or R……they are all the same.
WATER CURES COVID! only a 160 people out of 20,000 people recieving Pfizer water got COVID
water cures COVID!!!!
(see the results yourself – read Pfizers press release yourself – listen to the FDA yourself – DO IT!)
https://4thamendmentrestored.com/f/did-pharma-faucci-the-fed-utilize-covid-media-against-the-usa
Water = placebo.
Anyone who wants to be vaccinated has already been vaccinated or easily can be vaccinated.
They are protected. The unvaccinated can not harm them.
Coercing others by threatening their job is utterly unacceptable. It is a heinous violation of that person’s right and a hideous abuse of power. I can’t believe Americans are putting up with this shit.
Me neither.
unless its not a vaccine.
and the vaccine’s true intent is to protect you from the Government HARMING You.
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Government ask if you got it. you say no. they harm you.
vaccinated get covid, scared of people not vaccinated, and they still wear mask.
They can wear a mask instead of getting the shot.
You get the shot or be killed by your government. this is not an option.
You can also get killed if you getting the shot……
yep. the point of the mandate.
It is shameful.
They can wear a mask.
Don’t have to like Dick Cheney but he did not get just up and shoot that man in the face. I don’t even think the guy was shot in the face. Propaganda is propaganda.
Cheney’s problem was not a hunting accident. It was that being part of the military/gubmint/industrial/elite complex was not fashionable among the Democrats then.
RNC announces first Pride Coalition. Yeah, that’s the way to. Mimic the left. Brilliant strategy. Let’s keep the Balkanization of America going and see how many identity groups we can divide up into. The right will have to play catch up, but I have great faith they will get the job done!
https://www.dailywire.com/news/republican-national-committee-announces-first-rnc-pride-coalition
So, the RNC is partnering with the Log Cabin Republicans to form the Pride Coalition ~ LGBT (no Q) Conservatives. Does that mean the RNC supports the LGBTQ sex education curriculums in our schools that teaches masturbation to kindergartners? Similar question when it comes to teaching gender fluidity, promoting puberty blockers, or handing out storybooks with illustrations about gay sex or pedophilia? Seems like this is a superficial political calculation by Rona that has a lot of downstream policy implications/questions that the Log Cabin Republican website doesn’t address.
Tulsi Gabbard talking about “the light of G-d’s love….” Never heard her speak like this. Maybe I missed it, or maybe she’s had an awakening, or maybe she’s trying to position herself for something (not sure what and sorry to be so cynical).
https://www.dailywire.com/news/tulsi-gabbard-this-is-where-the-far-lefts-darkness-comes-from
Tulsi is an opportunistic wingnut.
Seems that way to me. Some conservatives sing her praises, but she strikes me exactly as you describe: “opportunistic.”
I really thought the dems were going to run her against Trump last election. She might have picked off some women, military and republican votes. As it turns out, the dems already had their plan in place and didn’t need the votes.
I didn’t think they’d pick her and found her debate performances to be very narrowly focused on the theme of nation building endless wars. But, as you say, they already had their plan in place, so there’s that wee detail.
Joe Manchin in a skirt
https://www.tulsigabbard.com/about/my-spiritual-path
Tulsi saw these freaks up close during the D debates. She knew she was not part of the club.
Here is another goodie to meditate upon…our finances and ubiquitous 401k or “hold on to your wallet” because we all know what happens when things go “woke”:
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2021/11/08/get-ready-for-your-woke-401k/
They’ve been licking their chops over our 401k’s since GWB
Newsom has Guillain Barre after Moderna booster!
https://twitter.com/RWMaloneMD/status/1457861599033757696
Source?
source = Dr Malone’s credibility.
Page does not exist.
That’s because it’s from the future, November 9. Last time I looked today is November 8.
I saw nothing on Malone’s twitter feed. There are a lot of fake Malone accounts. It’s very hard to imagine Malone would send out a message like that. The verbiage isn’t how he speaks or writes, and it seems beneath his professionalism to spread what is now, a rumor.
That was a real post- I think he got threatened with a law suit- I do follow him on twitter, he just deleted it.
Here is Steve Kirsch who thinks it is Bell’s Palsy.
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/gavin-newsom-is-out-of-sight-likely
The Globe reported Saturday Nov. 6th that California Governor Gavin Newsom’s last public appearance was October 27th, when he received a coronavirus booster shot. Then, only two days later on October 29th, Gov. Gavin Newsom cited “family obligations” and abruptly cancelled his much anticipated trip to Scotland to attend the 2021 United Nations Climate Change Conference, the Globe reported. An aide made the surprise announcement.
Monday morning very early, we sent Gov. Newsom’s press office a request for his public schedule this week. We still have not heard anything back, as of 2:30pm.
the Globe received a message from a medical professional that a rumor is going through the medical community that Gov. Newsom has Guillain-Barré syndrome following his recent COVID booster vaccine. We heard from several other politically-connected sources saying the same.
Gov. Newsom’s has no public schedule this week.
coincidence?
Who Cares?
Mixing vaccine with botox and hairspray not a good combination.
In this episode of WE Earth Radio, Michael discusses freedom, democracy, and a pandemic with author, researcher, and investigative reporter Julius Ruechel. They explore the issues surrounding individual rights and the “greater good” while exploring the manipulation of data and the one size fits all approach to dealing with the virus and its mutations. This conversation also explores the divisiveness and lack of dialogue that usually accompanies rigorous scientific exploration.
Julius Ruechel is an independent writer focused on providing perspective on topics essential to the healthy functioning of science and democracy. He is also the author of a new book called Autopsy of a Pandemic: the Lies, the Gamble, and the Covid-Zero Con. You can see more of his writing on his website at http://www.juliusruechel.com.
https://www.welloflight.com/conversations/conversations-with-michael-julius-ruechel-autopsy-of-a-pandemic-the-lies-the-gamble-and-the-covid-zero-con
when Joe and his allies steal kids to have sex with – they compensate the trafficer with $450,000
epstein is real – when WE went to sleep, he was either snuck out OR WAS NEVER IN.
We here, see that everything is a video production or a script. Then you are shamed into chanting their Headline.
Newsom in the news? not by their wanting….
leaks and hard working news from people like YOU is where real news comes from.
okay, this is funny!
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1457807280896884738?s=20
Bill introduced in FL. to withdraw fr/ OSHA.
https://www.flsenate.gov/Media/PressReleases/Show/4054
Thanks so much for posting this ray of hope, Sunny!
The US Government has placed citizens in the position of having to take a stand against the Government JUST TO SURVIVE.
For all those who here who are thinking the RNC is on our side:
“The establishment wing of the Republican Party has seized on the testimony of Parnell’s ex-wife to tank the Trump-backed candidate’s Senate campaign.”
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/11/08/inconsistencies-emerge-in-sean-parnells-exs-allegations-against-trump-backed-senate-candidate/
Not a fan of Breitbart, as you all know, but it’s a sign post in the road.
I don’t mind that the GOPe brings up trouble areas in a primary as long as it is an honest concern based on true info (currently occurring or oppo research). I just hold it against them when it is dirty politics. You know what I mean.
Whatever is there is going to come out. Better now than to have the Dems throw an October surprise in the General election.
Based on what I have heard so far this is an unpleasant divorce with “he said/she said” issues. Americans understand that. Unless some other proof comes out I don’t see this affecting the race.
James O’Keefe/PV interview with Sean, who kept interrupting.
Listened to the tail-end of TimCast IRL this evening which featured Kash Patel (was over at Stella’s listening to Viva Barnes Law, which was fantastic).
Kash had a few insights that may be worth sharing.
Q – where are all the “good” FBI guys and why aren’t they whistleblowers?
A – The good guys didn’t sign up to be whistleblowers, they signed up to be FBI guys, and are still at the FBI doing their job as best they can under difficult circumstances.
Q – Will Pres Trump run in 2024, and will Pres Trump have Pompeo as VP?
A – Good chance Pres Trump will run, and Pompeo? Oh hell no.
Lots other good stuff in the small amount of time I heard. Kash had not much good to say about a good many of Pres Trump’s Dept heads like Gina Haspell, Paul Nakasone, and a few others, and wished Pres Trump had not stopped firing people after Comey.
TimCast IRL will not be up till tomorrow, so will listen fully tomorrow. Kash, along with a few others, are talking now, and Kash is one who is not holding back.
Great night for listening tonight. Had to miss Jimmy Dore, but, oh well.
Biden economy…this is gonna hurt. Thousands of chain stores expected to close in 2022. There are about 2000 alone on the first 20 of the list of 120 planned chain store closures.
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Last Call: These Chain Stores Are Closing Locations in 2022
https://tinyurl.com/td68nb5u
More and more companies have started rejecting wokeness and cancel culture.
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State Farm Backs QB Aaron Rodgers Amid COVID Vaccine Debate
“State Farm Insurance on Monday got behind its spokesman, Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers, defending his right not to get vaccinated against COVID-19 even as another company he did endorsements for, Prevea Health, dropped him…
…”We don’t support some of the statements that he has made, but we respect his right to have his own personal point of view. We recognize our customers, employees, agents, and brand ambassadors come from all walks of life, with differing viewpoints on many issues.”
https://tinyurl.com/5bxe6n9y
Good for them.
That was a pretty decent statement (for once!) from a company.
New Zealand anti-vax mandate protest
Thank the GOPe and the rinos. Bet Liz Cheney has her hand in this behind the scenes. Republican Party is dirty and as underhanded as the Dems.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/ohio-republicans-move-forward-redistricting-efforts-will-result-trump-supporting-rep-jim-jordan-removed-office/
Carefull…. she might shoot you in the face with a shotgun
yes is in the family…