The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) employees have until November 22nd to get vaccinated or get fired. However, it appears there is a significant percentage of the workforce that have yet to comply with the federal mandate. According to a report from The Hill following an interview with TSA Administrator David Pekoskeat, the current rate of vaccination compliance within the agency is 60 percent.
Given the amount of propaganda, lies and manipulation of data from the U.S. Federal Government and corporate media, I’m left to wonder if the vaccination rates in the entire nation are not ¹overblown. The White House occupant said more than 60 million eligible workers are still not vaccinated.
WASHINGTON DC – […] With the deadline six weeks away, employees have already missed the point at which they can get vaccinated with the Moderna vaccine. The two-shot regimen is administered four weeks apart and an additional two weeks are needed after the shots for a patient to be considered fully vaccinated.
[…] In a memo sent out earlier this month, the the U.S. Office of Personnel Management (OPM) said federal agencies could begin enforcing the vaccine mandate beginning on Nov. 9 for employees who are still not vaccinated.
“Employees who refuse to be vaccinated or provide proof of vaccination are subject to disciplinary measures, up to and including removal or termination from Federal service,” OPM Director Kiran Ahuja said. “The only exception is for individuals who receive a legally required exception pursuant to established agency processes.” (read more)
¹There are 205 million total eligible workers in the United States aged 15-74 {data}, and the labor participation rate is 61% {data}. Therefore there should be approximately 125 million people working in the United States. However, the Bureau of Labor and Statistics puts the U.S. workforce number at 153 million {data}. The difference is likely the ineligible workers that are actually working (ie. 25 to 30 million illegal aliens).
If we split the difference and take the mid-point at 140 million workers, then 60 million workers refusing the vaccine mandate represents about 40 percent of the entire population of eligible workers. That is a massive percentage of the workforce.
The economic systems in the United States cannot function if 40% of the workforce just refuses the vaccine and gets fired. Heck, it doesn’t take anywhere near that many to collapse the system. If only ten percent of the eligible and currently employed workforce refuses the jab, things cannot function.
Kennedy Space Center, FL Contractor Employee. We received our new “attestation” form as well as religious exemption application. I refuse to submit either. I should not have to…and I won’t
No. You should not have to.
Actual(!) Federal Law is very explicit about the requirement for full disclosure of all potential negative side effects and for “voluntary informed consent” – especially(!) in the case of “emergency use authorization.”
21 US Code § 360bbb-3. (e)(1)(A)(ii):
Which reads as follows in relevant part:
Appropriate conditions designed to ensure that individuals to whom the product is administered are informed—
(I)that the Secretary has authorized the emergency use of the product;
(II)of the significant known and potential benefits and risks of such use, and of the extent to which such benefits and risks are unknown; and
(III)of the option to accept or refuse administration of the product, of the consequences, if any, of refusing administration of the product and of the alternatives to the product that are available and of their benefits and risks.
(iii)Appropriate conditions for the monitoring and reporting of adverse events associated with the emergency use of the product.
THROMBOCYTOPENIA
this iui s getting more and more attention.
All four vacs do it to some extent
Dangerous!
But the bottom line is this counterfeit Administration is intent on dictating new federal laws, & crapping on legitimate federal laws.
Actual(!) Federal Law is very explicit about the requirement for full disclosure of all potential negative side effects and for “voluntary informed consent” – especially(!) in the case of “emergency.”
21 US Code § 360bbb-3. (e)(1)(A)(ii):
Which reads as follows in relevant part:
(ii)Appropriate conditions designed to ensure that individuals to whom the product is administered are informed—
(I)that the Secretary has authorized the emergency use of the product;
(II)of the significant known and potential benefits and risks of such use, and of the extent to which such benefits and risks are unknown; and
(III)of the option to accept or refuse administration of the product, of the consequences, if any, of refusing administration of the product and of the alternatives to the product that are available and of their benefits and risks.
(iii)Appropriate conditions for the monitoring and reporting of adverse events associated with the emergency use of the product.
— oh, wait, “Federal Law?” What’s that, and who cares? The Law’s irrelevant now, because there’s just so damned much money to be made. Who cares if people die, or are irreversibly injured? ?♂️ They can’t sue us, after all … “because it’s an emergency.”
I’ve been bringing this up to my bosses for awhile. Contractors are in for a rude awakening when they get to s of lawsuits for not getting informed consent
Hey John,
KSC is a beautiful place. Worked there around ’98. Love those Indian River oranges!!!!
Unfortunately, you don’t see those groves around anymore. It is sad.
My religion says I should not give an inch to government power grabs.
I was watching a video on vax passports. Once everybody is tracked with phone apps you could be quarantined because you got too close to an infected person. You would have absolutely no way to challenge the claim, the government would move to protect the infected person (if one ever existed).
This would be the new no fly list except it would encompass everything that you do.
As bad as that seems, I can’t imagine they really want to protect our health. They want us dead.
Nope. Your a taxpayer. They want you to submit.
Yes, submit EVERYTHING, vote right, be happy in CCP
They want save the planet with depop.
Pretty much….
They don’t require valid reasons or excuses. They only have to dislike you or something about you. “Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime.” When they are completely unaccountable, they will do anything they want.
You CRAZY Conspiracy Nutjob!!!
Oh wait … you’ll be proven prescient in 3-2-1 …
No disrespect, One doesn’t need a religion to give the government the finger.
That’s how goofy thing are now.
I think it’s actually an IQ test.
That face works so brilliantly for so many memes, doesn’t it?
You’re killing me!
the very definition of insanity is pretending to do something and expecting everyone else not to notice, you never did anything.
it’s a different kind of insanity, now isn’t it?
it’s a patriot test.
I’m a NASA contractor as well. Small business. We haven’t heard anything yet about the Fed Contractor requirement (we already had corporate requirement but it contained generous exceptions).
I feel the same way. I’m thinking we will not qualify for unemployment.
Attestation Form!?
Sounds real sciency … sounds real “medical”. So, your employer will take your word for your vaccination?
Why? Because they KNOW the HIPPA Laws prevent them from prying into your personal medical data?
I stand with The Constitution and every citizen’s Constitutional RIGHTS
The attestation form info is being collected by a contractor outside the Fed gov. No warning or consent is given in advance. The form states you waive the privacy act protections and the info is shared across agencies as appropriate. I refuse to fill out a form to attest to a status which they say is required to invoke constitutional rights. Not. Happening.
Speaking as a minister, as much as sympathize with those at risk of losing their jobs, I am very hesitant to write religious exemption letters for parishioners, given that by doing so I am aiding and abetting in what is already a compromise of their rights. They should not have to supply a letter pleading for an exemption on ANY grounds, let alone religious grounds. To comply, to play this game, has only resulted in the Govt further moving the goalposts towards more tyranny with each movement of mass compliance. Yes, this is hard, and the church needs to do what it can to encourage and support its members who do the right thing and take a stand on principle and bear the crosses appointed, suffer what comes from it. But we can’t compromise principle and expect it to bring blessing. You can’t comply with tyranny at any step and expect that in doing so it will lead back to full freedom and tyranny will just go away. As we’ve seen time and time again the last year and a half, with each mass compliance, they just then move the goalposts and take another tyrannical step. If we don’t take a stand now, eventually they will have taken away all the ground left to take a stand. In short, complying (compromising principle) with tyranny however small that compliance may be is never a good thing.
It is not necessary to get written permission from a pastor. No offense, but religion is in my heart, not what a prayer leader says
Junker Georg, A+++ Comment!
You are truly a minister of principle and wisdom.
I agree….. this has been my concern all along….we SHOULDN’T HAVE to appease them or compromise our liberties in any way. I’d say eff’em, but you did say you’re a minister ??
Haha, no. But I heartily can say, “Let’s Go Brandon!”
I refuse to submit the attestation or disclose any info. The attestation form requires me to respond in preapproved responses. The 1st Amendment allows me the freedom to speak or to refrain from speaking. I choose to refrain. F*ck them!
No you shouldn’t but do it anyway because Title VII of EqualRights act of 1964 say religion is so personal and broad even NON theisticreasons MUST be accepted and given accomodation.
Sure. I get that but I will not support the lies of this any longer. Its time to shut the engine of the world down
I included both theistic and non theistic reasons in my religious exemption request because I do hold both and I quoted and sited the EEOC’s paragraph in which it expressly states that non theistic beliefs are just as much a religious belief as theistic beliefs. (moral or ethical concerns for example, or matters of particular importance, such as life and death).
During my interrogation, oops I meant “interview”, when I explained my non theistic beliefs, the Diversity Officer doing the interviewing (whose job includes upholding Civil Rights – according to her voice mail greeting), pushed back on me and said, “but this is about a Religious Exemption request”.
To which I replied “yes, and the non theistic beliefs I’m describing are covered by the EEOC”. I did not say the quiet part out loud.
We originally planned to fill out the religious exemption. But as we started, the whole process became very insulting.
Not interested in filling it out anymore. Now we pray. And we pray. 8 dependants and a new house and scarcity in the way. Lord walk with us.
Pray for us, well pray for you.
Will do. Good luck
Yes, it is very insulting and also intrusive.
I will pray for you and your family.
God be with you.
Good. Maybe that’s the stance I should’ve taken, and I did consider doing so. I work for the State of MA. Ultimately though I decided to go with the Religious Exemption and THOUGHT I had made my case (I still think so).
However, late this morning I received my Religious Exemption request determination letter – Denied. We have until this Sunday 10/17 to be vaccinated, have an accepted request, or start a 5 day unpaid suspension. Things then progress to a 10 day suspension and then ultimately termination without the ability to collect unemployment (we will see about that when and if it gets to that point).
Regarding my denial letter, it’s my opinion whoever made the decision completely misread my job duties as it specifically mentions “direct care”, which I DO NOT PROVIDE.
Last night, I read that up to 1,500 corrections officers in MA are expected to refuse (or have yet to be vaccinated) and word around my State Hospital (from campus police) is that 25 State Police are refusing to be vaccinated.
Additionally, the State is utilizing the National Guard to drive school buses due to all the bus drivers who refused the jab and/or did not return to work.
After calming down, I spoke with my Supervisor and she asked that I report to work Monday, and shared that she is losing up to 15 people!
Later still, an email from a higher up came out instructing that anyone “who was expressly asked by their supervisor to report to work on Monday should do so”.
Someone or some someones are hitting the brakes, at least for the time being. So I got a reprieve and we will see what happens.
But I am taking the weekend to gather all my facts and get ready to NOT GO QUIETLY if things in fact come to that.
If you can prove you do not provide direct care you have a case and even then you would likely have a case. Medical people won the right not to be vaccinated for the flu due to religious exemptions and they provide direct care. The religious exemption requires they provide reasonable accommodations. There are many available accommodations — 6′ rule, mask, weekly testing, telework, etc. While they are all not great options, these tyrannies are battles to be fought after this one is won and you will not have to take the vaccine.
You should contact a lawyer. Many lawyers are taking cases on contingency because it is a likely win. So far no cases where a company denying religious exemptions has been upheld by the courts.
Additionally do not quit, make them fire you.
The accomodation is that they don’t force the jab. Physical distancing, masks, testing etc are concessions. And I think it’s discrimination unless everyone is doing it (remember vaxxed are the asymptomatic super spreaders) and its also conceeding that those things help, and I’ve been fighting rhe masks since day one. Why must i concede and give them all my cards without at a negotiation?. It’s also not scientifically sound concessions, it’s humiliation. Thats why I’m opposed to filling out religious exemp forms. It feels like allowing and giving permission for your boss to bully and humiliate you based on their narrative that you dont get to argue. Also, for how long?Open ended concessions are a bad idea.
Our relig exemp form starts off with a page of propaganda and the terms under which I get to argue my case: “c19 is a danerous hazard to the workplace… the fda approved c19 vaccine is safe and effective…do not include politics, science, medicine, psychology, etc in to your religious argument… the more info you provide the more likely your request will be approved…. you will be required at minimum to wear masks, social distance and test, we may need to do more ro keep you from being a threat…. ise your own words do not copy a form letter (a form letter would likely cover all the legal points that would cover my ass, and perhaps I miss something important or am a terrible writer!, a lawyer should be filling out this form, my job depends on it)
*But also, list all the vaccines you’ve refused in the past…. how long you’ve held this religious belief, provide supporting evidence.*
I am going to wait and see what’s happening this coming week and do intend to get an attorney if/when it happens that I am terminated. Word is they are calling people back and as stated, my boss has me coming back to work on Monday even though Monday would be first day of 5-day suspension.
In my religious exemption request, in the section where it asks what accommodation you are asking for, I essentially said I’m asking for the status quo, as nothing needs to change, based on the following facts:
1) All of us, vaccinated as well as unvaccinated, are ALREADY TESTED ONCE PER WEEK and have been doing so since the start of this thing. Additionally, we ALL MUST WEAR MASKS WHEN IN COMMON AREAS and have been doing so, again, since the start.
2) I have been doing my job per usual, on site, since the very start of this thing. Nothing at all changed for me except for now we have this mandate.
3) I have natural immunity having had Covid in January of this year.
4) I already have a Religious Exemption request – ON FILE AND APPROVED! for the mandated Flu Vaccine from this past December, signed and dated 12/10/20.
I do belong to a Union and the Union will be filing grievances and such on our behalf according to their latest communication to us.
Steps I will be taking include joining with others to file class action or my own action, filing an EEOC claim at both the State and Federal levels (as Liberty Council advises those denied accommodation to do), and filing for Unemployment even though “they” claim we are not entitled to unemployment.
I am not quitting and if terminated it will not be for cause – I haven’t done anything wrong, the employer changed the terms of employment.
i just posted similar info on the daily thread
sarcasm intended. The elites are used to being taken care of. what happens when the maid or grounds keeper or vineyard workers quit? I know – you’re thinking illegals. But can you imagine an Afghani cleaning your bathroom?
And if the pilots, air traffic controllers and airport people (think deicing and refueling) quit, retire or slow down, they won’t be able to fly any more than the airlines.
there are more of us than there are of them….
And winter is here in a month starting the holiday travel season.
No jab no fly. You stay home and like it.
Mike:
Some are predicting a terrible cold and flu season, with the damage to the human immune system caused by the Co-Vid vaccines. A new and inadvertent lockdown?
I’d bet just the opposite due to even half-hearted COVID precautions. A huge one is more washing of hands.
If you read the CDC’s position on fomite (surface) transmission of COVID, their claim (guess) that it’s a minor mode of transmission is contradicted within their claim when they say it’s impossible to actually know.
Many other illnesses are easily transmitted by fomites and I’ll bet COVID is, too, so wash your freaking hands regularly and wear glasses and sunglasses when out and around to reduce touching the eye area.
Also snort saline solution with betadine w/iodine mixed in. 1.5 oz bottle of saline is common. To this add 1/2 teaspoon betadine w/ iodine solution. Spray into each nostril 2 or 3 times a day.
typo – name is fragemall
The rub here is within 10 months this administration fired pipeline workers, increased fuel cost, created a false pandemic, mandated actions that murdered the elderly, nulled our voice via stolen election, worked with private corporations removing conservative speech, and state regulations that choked off loading container ships creating shortages and increasing prices 20-50%.
Not one thing good has come of this administration and as you say the worst is yet to come
Please do some minimal research on the effectiveness of povidone-iodine solutions.
For example: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32511851/
My cardiologist agrees 100% with 1/2 teaspoon betadine solution mixed in a 1.5oz saline nose spray. Hit each nostril a few times a day and you kill the covid germs in their main pathway.
I rented a car & drove 1600 miles round trip in early September because I have consistently refused to be mauled by tsa.
Adding mask & vaccine nazis to the equation only lessened the zero appeal. I’m glad to drive or stay home.
Bonus: I got to see the Flight 93 Memorial for the 1st time just 2 days before the shrub & the perv defiled it with their UnAmerican, partisan rhetoric.
My son and his wife drove 2000 miles last month to avoid being subjected to tsa.
I always stay home and like it.
Be it ever so humble, there’s no place like home.
I have never appreciated mine as much as I have in the last couple of years.
I was willing to lose my life for freedom in the service, and they think I’ll cower if they take my job now.
Idiots.
ms idaho,
Be glad you are in ID. Wimpy Gov Little, I have not much confidence in. Where are you in ID,no need to be specific ,I am near Meridian.
don’t like Gov Little either – do like the Lt Gov tho. Hope she gives him heartburn come election time. We are on the east side of the smile.
for those who don’t realize it – the snake river makes the smile at the bottom of the state.
Thanks for the explanation!
Nice! and glad to hear Idahoans speakin’ up. Left Idaho earlier this year – not because I don’t LOVE IT THERE! It was to be near my grandchildren in another beautiful Red State. Missing the crisp fall air though. Snow, snow, snow… I was further north. Nothin’ like so much snow you can’t go anywhere! Hot chocolate, the wood stove glowing, ahhh Idaho. I will miss her forever. But, back to Governor Little… he’s a chump and needs to be deposed and exposed!
I may be wrong but didn’t the Lt Gov also live on the East side of the smile? She was in the neighborhood this week.
maybe so. i am woefully uneducated.
I just know that i cheered when she passed the EO protecting schools and workeers from the ‘clot shot’ and Little cancelled it when he got back from a governor’s meeting last summer.
I think she is being hassled – hence her presser this week. I think it means Little is afraid of her.
I agree, and I think the taliban actually sent who they wanted to infiltrate the US.
Joe Blow and his handlers left the vetting to the enemy. Now Joe wants to give foreign aid to the new Afghan gubmint.
The gubmint of the taliban. Our tax dollars at work, against us again.
https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/crime-and-courts/afghan-man-sexually-assaulted-boys-ages-12-14-in-fort-mccoy-bathroom-affidavit-alleges/article_d35675e9-3376-5a65-9552-788579394ad2.html
And really bad mistakes DO happen, especially if over-worked, under duress, barely trained…
i am afraid that is happening – and being hidden
but it can’t stay hidden
The Stamp Act of 1765 sowed the seeds of Revolution.
Is there an inference here Sundance?
We are in heady times, indeed.
The Jab Act would be the tipping point for King Biden.
the orignal vaccine mandate court case they are using to make this LAWFUL is a STATE case and the punishment was 5$ in 1905.
Nuremburg Joe is fully informed of his actions, and is in full mental capacity in deciding to do them once informed. His actions will be his accountabilities to the judger .. judger…. the jury.
We the People and our State is part of the Union, not Subject to it.
Thanks for referencing the state issue–someone in the threads the other day very nicely connected some dots: any requirements for vaccinations for children entering school originate from state law. There have never been federal requirements applied to citizens of all states.
I have never been required to show a TB or small pox or measles vaccination to enter any store or participate in any public event.
Any equivalence they try to apply from the angle of (“well, chidlren have always had to be vaccinated to be registered in school….”) is a potemkin equivalence. Has no relevance.
Yep – and the FDA knows what Joe is Doing is illegal
it looks like they said it
Excellent rebuttal Sharon.
My view is at issue is not mandating a vaccine but is that vaccine made and test with the same protocol as other vaccines. The answer is no.
Fuci’s goal in promoting Covid vaccine is it’s not made with the normal method using eggs. A new method made with proteins without egg host is cheaper and rapid compared with the older proven method. Second issue is the survival rate of covid exceeds that of small pox of 1905.
To add:
“Near the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic, as states issued lockdown orders that closed businesses and prohibited large gatherings, several judges justified those restrictions by citing Jacobson v. Massachusetts, since it was the most recent Supreme Court ruling explicitly addressing state powers during a disease epidemic, even if it was 115 years old.
But in a reversal, the Supreme Court ruled in 2020 against broadly applying the logic of Jacobson to all COVID-19 lockdown restrictions. In Roman Catholic Diocese Of Brooklyn, New York v. Andrew M. Cuomo, the Court decided that the State of New York violated the constitutional rights of citizens wanting to safely gather in churches and synagogues during the pandemic. The reasoning was that the lockdown laws barred religious gatherings altogether while still allowing secular business to operate at limited capacity.
“Jacobson hardly supports cutting the Constitution loose during a pandemic,” wrote Justice Neil Gorsuch for the 5-4 majority. “That decision involved an entirely different mode of analysis, an entirely different right, and an entirely different kind of restriction.”
https://www.history.com/news/smallpox-vaccine-supreme-court
https://aaronkheriaty.substack.com/p/judicial-precedents-and-vaccine-mandates?r=76kom&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=
“Have you had the Covid 19 vaccination?”
“Do you like anal?”
“EXCUSE me?!!”
“Well, I just thought since your asking questions that are NONE of your F’ing business,…I would, too.
And, since its pretty obvious you enjoy taking it up the *ss, from the government,…”
Damn that is funny!
Not only am I stealing that, it goes in the verbal tool kit.
OMG! 🙂
That will get their attention!
I really think that a good lawyer could make the case that nothing he has signed is legal because joe himself said that he has to follow someone else’s orders (he isn’t allowed to take questions, and he has to follow the script he was given and he can only call on the people on the list). So that should mean that the “supposed” potus isn’t he one making decisions. We all know that joe isn’t making the decisions but he has actually said it. That should null & void everything he has said and done. That should include signing any Bill or signing every EO since his first day of intrusion in the oval office.
Yep – our founders never planned for a puppet president.
I like the way you think
Bingo! The feds are using a state case which may not pass muster with federal law.
But there is one other little nugget that may foul this takeover: COVID is being used NOT as a preventative measure—as advertised—but as a treatment. That can be fairly easily substantiated with available data.
I do not believe there is a Constitutional basis for forced treatment for a pandemic—“penumbras”and “emanations”notwithstanding.
Jacobson vs. MA.
And the courts continuously misread the case.
Yes, the punishment was not a forced jab, but a fine.
The virus was an exponentially deadlier virus -smallpox, and the man and his son both were very, very sickened by their FIRST JAB. The refusal was for a SECOND JAB.
Additionally, the Law was passed by a State Legislature.
and the vaccine had been around for longer.
I like it. : )
EUA vaccines are not legal. Not legal to mandate and lot legal when there are approved alternatives. And there ARE.
I’m telling you, if there’s an angle of attack that will bring an end to this, it’s going after the world-wide use and success of Hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin.
The drugs are proven successful in other countries and have been used successfully in this country as well. The FDA has approved BOTH for off-label use. And once we get proof of the assertion that congress has been taking these things regularly?
That should blow the whole thing up.
We need to focus on ending this nightmare.
but add in the slight of hand – as to why it can work. They say a product must go through clinical trials for a SPECIFIC disease.
so ivermectin can’t be off labeled but not block an EUA – clever right?
Thus the tyranny of Government
And in order to be approved under EUA, the makers of this jab must swear there is no alternative therapy or drug in existence that would take care of the problem the product is asking for approval for. Thus we have the reason for disparaging and not allowing the use of Ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine. They knew these two longstanding medicines would work. Hundreds of thousands have died or been seriously, sadly affected by the denial of use. What’s the penalty for that?
We need to write to our Democrat congress critters and accuse them of using therapeutics and covering up their effectiveness. Up to 200 reps and staff are reportedly participants. They need to be outed. There may be one or two who still have a conscience that hasn’t been seared.
I answered a chap further down with just this information. Perfectly put.
There’s no need for the FDA to approve HCQ or Ivermectin for 0ff-label use; the fact that they’re approved for something gives the doctors license to use them for something else of their choosing. Also, the governors who banned HCQ have no right; the FDA approved it and it’s not under state jurisdiction.
The Stab Act.
Rebel.
?
Curious to see how this plays out. Democrats fight tooth and nail to prevent even one ounce of federal dollars being cut by reducing the federal workforce.
Pretty much guarantee that no civil service employees will actually lose their jobs. It never happens. Contractors, tho…who knows?
40 million unemployed and not one government worker fired
i would not bet money on that statement. seems to me that the productive people in gummit might leave. The thing that is not factored in … a bit of psychology
I read that Jacksonville Air Traffic had like 36 people who were due to work last Friday. 3 showed up. Those 3 could not do the work of 36. Took them several hours to round up enough people for traffic to flow again.
that’s going to be true for every similar situation. The few who are willing to work will have to bear the burden to do the work of those who are unwilling. and you cannot wave a magic wand and create people capable of doing these specialized jobs.
For how long have we been looking for a decrease in gummit workers – especially the non – productive kind? This may (could, possibly?) lead to that kind of decrease
so smart what you said – “the productive people” would be terminated and removed.
now you got the federal gov you want if you are dictator – drones.
i say again – the law of unintended consequences. remaining employees – gummit or civilian – will have to bear the burden of WORK.
they will not want to do actual work.
while we may have many freeloaders in gummit now, when those who actually work leave or are fired for non compliance, those remaining will no longer have someone to hide behind
i don’t mean i can predict the outcome – but i would be willing to be its not going to be as expected
Its not that some productive civil servants might leave…sure, that can happen. None will actually get fired
cannot guess about that. this pResident is mandating compliance or be fired, isn’t he?
Trump had the opportunity to dump 800k federal non essential workers. He couldn’t bring himself to do it.
and watch Joe Nuremburg dump 10X that.
I know. I was on the edge of my seat waiting for it to happen.
Since it didn’t there must have been some reason – not obvious.
One thing about our VSG P DJT – he prioritizes. You can bet he got something he wanted more than the firings.
On the one hand, I’ve got higher ups that both think it’s ridiculous and that we won’t get tossed. On the other hand I’ve got emails from Rettig that’s lockstep propaganda. Only thing a good chunk of us are sure on, is they’re looking to flush the people who both work and actually gave a damn about the constitution/people we’re ostensibly supposed to be working for.
Agreed. They’ll get an exemption. Just like Ocare. All the large groups that vote D that said “no” were exempted from the requirement.
Shummer declaration no one should choose between heat and food is true.
His solution is give more money to seniors instead of correcting the problem. Shows the incompetence of governance.
No skin off Schumer. Heck …………..it’s not like he won’t vote to just print up more Monopoly money when they need it.
Inflation Shlinflation.
But if the TSA employees DO get an exemption by Democrats, then we’re eyeball deep into “arbitrary and capricious” territory…..as if we weren’t already with the illegal aliens pouring across the border unvaccinated, undocumented, and unimpeded.
At an airbase. We do not have known approved exemption for military or civilians. It ain’t happening. They did ask for civilians to “volunteer” their vaxx status. I heard the wing received only three responses.
Those 3 should be summarily dismissed.
Lets bring it all down around ole Joe’s shoulders. No one works on 10-20.
NATIONAL STRIKE……. NOTHING MOVES……..NOTHING!
Nah. Texas should block Amazon.com’s shipments to call attention to the deliberate supply chain interruption issue. Once it becomes a national issue, the facts will come out and the public attention will force them to stop.
I’m good with that. Also looking for good days to have been, ahem, exposed to COVID so that I can take a nice quarantine week or two during some important testing
The “I will NOT comply” brigade is either growing or finally speaking out. I’m no fan of the TSA, but I can see that the lie that almost all of America is biojabbed is just that…a dirty manipulative lie. And I hope they stand strong.
Where in the Constitution does it say government holds sway over health decisions.
Fool some all, all some but with Covid not all all of the time.
“my body, my choice”
the mantra of the pro-abortion contingent – the so-called feminists and the main proponent of abortion, Planned Parenthood – that’s the mantra at all the pro-abortion rallies . . .
they are totally exposed as bogus!
Where in the Constitution does it say you can have an impeachment trial without the Supreme Court Chief Justice? But they did anyway.
Relying on the Constitution is like a girlfriend consoling another girl with a broken nose saying “Guys are not supposed to hit girls!”
Keep in mind Pelosi called it an impeachment inquiry thus muzzled the minority.
Muzzling Republicans was a test for nulling our voice stealing the vote.
finally speaking out – as the heat touches. 50% or greater of this country.
People are being pushed and pushed and shoved. And the worst, threatened. The penny is dropping finally. I suspect many know those who have been terribly affected or stories thereof. I also suspect a white hot rage is developing across this country. It has to play out, but now that this has started, may it be all consuming so not even the insulated arrogant government can avert its gaze. They need to pay very heavily for it all at the next election, if we have one.
Sure looks like the Pfizer product is being ‘pushed’, if we look at Moderna “wait times”.
Wow! I’m sure the vaxx rates are way overblown, now. This explains the desperation.
There is no way,No Damn Way, that this Lying regime is telling the truth about Jab compliance. There are way more of us than them.
Yep, starting to believe you are right Avocado.
I think they accidentally posted accurate numbers.
Perhaps they meant to lie and say 90% to coerce the hold-outs.
I can only say my firing will affect my employer a lot more than it will me.
they know whats up.
their plan is to say “We can’t open up and return to normal becuase we did not meet the percentage we wanted”
legal help for military
https://standwithwarriors.org/let-us-help-you/
There are going to be long lines at the airports this holiday season, in addition to delayed and cancelled flights.
I wonder if many of these organizations will blink and delay implementation of these mandates.
FPCHmom: The gubmint will find a perfectly nonsensical excuse to delay implementation and portray the delay as a praiseworthy act, based on science and stuff.
Just fire them all….
Trump had his chance…too nice of a guy to fire 800k
the implied power of their ILLEGAL executive order is their Plan to coerce people unwillingly to get a vaccine.
nuremburg Joe is his name now. HE IS NOT STUPID, he is not a bumbling fool. that is what they want you to say, so all his actions can be dismissed.
he is Nuremburg Joe –
she is Nuremburg Nancy –
he is Nuremburg Schumer
he is Nuremburg McConnel
Joe is an ignoramous and the people running this show behind the scenes will blame him when it hits the fan. He is a full blown Socialist but he ain’t smart. He’s compliant.
that makes sense – We need to remember to associate his Handlers with him always, so they cant just dispose and replace him and continue.
good point
Joe Nuremburg and Obama Nuremberg’s guidance advisors.
amen
“Neilia was my very best friend, my greatest ally, my sensuous lover. The longer we lived together the more we enjoyed everything from sex to sports.” – Joe Biden
By way of encouragement to resist: here’s a link to the video of the 28 year old Austrian PM fainting while at the podium while telling lawmakers that vaccine skepticism is unwarranted….shortly after she’d been vaccinated.
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/314999
Stand up, Americans. Say “NO!”
Umm…. Yea, I laughed.
Why do you think the border is wide open?
Back filling workers that refuse the jab.
you can probably get groundskeepers and maids – workers at burger king.
you won’t get air traffic controllers, airport maintenance workers, pilots or any other worker for jobs that require a high level of skill and years of training.
And, unless i miss my guess, those are the pool of workers we have now reached.
this from Natural News
“After mass vaccinating the oblivious sheeple (the first 30%), then incentivizing or threatening the easily controlled obedience worshipers (another 30%), the genocidal vaccine pushers have reached the fiercely resisting 40% of the country that refuses to go along with vaccine tyranny.”
Not only are they the fiercely resisting, they are also the more highly educated and more intelligent. Oops – my prejudice is showing.
I can picture an Afghan working ATC. Not only planes grounded but crashing in flight as well.
in afghanistan our people probably trained them well. there might be some problem with language tho….
Air traffic control usually communicates in English because there are so many English speaking pilots.
that’s true – but oh, the accent
No need to ask for special treatment. I identify as an illegal alien. Case closed.
i’m a Polak – does that count?
40%?…..try 75%
Collapsing the TSA is a good thing.
As I tell many friends that wonder why I won’t get the shot..If Congress and the Illegals don’t have too..Well…Neither do I!
Makes sense.
Government doesn’t want me to have rifles is why I own them. Government wants to jab me is why I won’t ?
Exactly. If the government tells me I must drink a quart of orange juice a week, I will stop drinking orange juice.
Exactly right Karen. It’s common sense to me.
Not sure why that’s so hard for some people to figure out.
https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/floating-material-found-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-vials-japan-but-company-says-it-s-not
Don’t forget postal workers.
“As of the date of this order, one of the COVID-19 vaccines, the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, also known as Comirnaty, has received approval from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA)”
Is that a true statement? I have heard otherwise.
True. But not available . . . so false.
Not even in production. By the time they make it, the original covid virus will be gone. It probably already is.
I bet they never even go into production of it.
far as i know it is true. unfortunately it is not available – at least not in the US – last i heard
It’s true BUT it is not available here. So the EUA jabs are still being used. Which means the provisos apply, including informed consent and the right to say no.
I have heard one knowledgeable doctor who apparently has done a deep dive into the actualities of the so called FDA approval say that Comirnaty is not actually approved in and of itself, but it is approved for APPLICATION for approval. That’s a huge difference.
Comirnaty is approved but is not available in the US.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/08/did_the_fda_pull_a_baitandswitch_on_the_american_people.html
And my understanding is Comirnaty has ONLY been used in Israel, under a special agreement.
So, if they tell you they are giving you “the FDA approved” Pfizer vaccine,…they are LIEING to your face.
Israel is in German BioNtech’s clutches with an agreement that promises they will use no other Covid biojab. Short memories the Israelis have.
The clue to the sham is that no one is forthright with the truth.
The government annoucement is confusing. It mentions FDA approavl for Comirnaty whenever it becomes available, implying Pfizer has two vaccines. The original one and the Comirnaty one. The original one is not FDA approved. Though some will say the only way to know which one you received is to check the lot number on the bottle against a data base.
If any of this was true, they would make it plain and easy.
Here’s an essay from American Thinker summarizing what they did:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/08/did_the_fda_pull_a_baitandswitch_on_the_american_people.html
The only vaccine formally approved is not available in the United States.
Yes, Comirnaty received FDA approval. However, since Comirnaty is NOT AVAILABLE in the US, what you are receiving is not FDA approved.
Bait and switch.
The rush to “FDA approval” was due to the thinking (not sure that thinking was correct), that so-called “vaccine hesitancy” was due to EUA as opposed to Approved.
False; if it were true they’d have to stop using other jabs that are emergency use. They also claim that it’s different than the curent Pfizer jab but in other places that it and the emergency use one are thes same and can be use interchangeably.
Anecdotal evidence where I work would suggest that the percentage is probably similar at the Postal Service.
I mentioned earlier how Red Wing Shoes gave the same dates and threats to their workers. I happen to be one and will most likely be let go Dec. 8th on unpaid leave. Dec. 31st they will terminate employment. This is where we are.
I have to replace a pair of work shoes soon. Guess that rules out Red Wing.
John, that is straight up righteous, brother!
Just prayed for you and yours Bree.
Hang tough. Get aggressive. ?
Check these out
https://forunitedsolutions.org/religious-exemptions
https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/guide-to-employer-injection-ultimatums
https://lc.org/exempt
These so-called “mandates” are absolutely ILLEGAL. No one may compel anyone to receive ANY medical treatment or procedure, let alone treatments UNAPPROVED by the FDA, such as these vaccines.
Beyond that, these vaccines are UBSAFE, INEFFECTIVE, and COUNTERPRODUCTIVE from a public health standpoint.
This is clearly NOT a well designed response to any public health crisis since the vaccines are making the pandemic WORSE. Also, the Biden Administration exempting illegal aliens and members of labor unions aligned with the Democrat Party clearly puts the lie to any claims to the contrary.
“This is clearly NOT a well designed response to any public health crisis since the vaccines are making the pandemic WORSE. Also, the Biden Administration exempting illegal aliens and members of labor unions aligned with the Democrat Party clearly puts the lie to any claims to the contrary.”
very well put!
but if the states and companies took the money for Covid there is a clause that they must mandate the shots – or give the $$ back.
did you ever know a politician or company that would refuse money?
IMO The so called vaccines are part two of the Bio-Attack. I’d also be very skeptical of ANY vaccine in the future.
I was never an anti-vaxer, but I am now.
November 22 is the compliance date?
Sounds like a threat, like someone else who apparently was not compliant enough with the intelligence govt.
November 22, 1963…
And also, how safe are they going to be unvaxxed until November 22. This is all so stupid. It’s not about a virus.
Your life will be safer if you don’t take the shot.
We’ve (my co-workers and I), been making the same argument. OK for us to work in person since March 2020! Flip a switch on 10/17 though, and all of a sudden it is an “undue hardship” to continue having us on site.
this is them making life hard on people to get them to comply –
Nuremburg Joe and his handlers via Nuremburg Obama’s team
what i want to know – and no one is talking about it
What Shot?
How many shots?
When will you be ‘in compliance’??????
I asked that as well.
Have not received an answer.
It is an important question because in my case – State gov. worker under Governor’s order for state workers-the Executive Order specifically states the mandate is for the initial shot(s) as well as ALL BOOSTERS.
Well, HOW MANY BOOSTERS? If the CDC overlords provide “guidance” indicating a booster is required every 3 or 6 months for example, seriously? We are mandated for the annual Flu shot as well.
Perhaps this is why some of those way out there web sites that keep looking for an early Trump return are now pushing a November date … when the country locks up under the crumbling FJB mandate.
First those “way out there websites” said August.
It ain’t happening.
“Given the amount of propaganda, lies and manipulation of data from the U.S. Federal Government and corporate media, I’m left to wonder if the vaccination rates in the entire nation are not ¹overblown. ”
Ya think? And they wonder why few trust Govt and their agencies, not to mention are downright suspicious of anything that comes out of their mouths. But this a good thing. There’s been too much trust put in Govt, including the GOP, especially blindly, without getting verification.
A definite moment we shall never forget
To be consistent (irrelevant to a leftist) the airports should be as wide open as the southern border. Remember the good old days when you showed up just in time for a flight?
Those were the Days! Fond memories running through the airport with 5-10 mins left before takeoff!
Another user on another site had this website archived. It’s from the military and he says it was taken down but he archived. Click on any country name and look down to see the population estimate in 2025. The United States is $100 million!
https://web.archive.org/web/20190409031712/https://www.deagel.com/country/forecast.aspx?pag=1&sort=GDP&ord=DESC
China and other third world countries have hardly any change.
I’ve known about this Deagel site and its’ dire predictions for the size of the US population for some time – it was perplexing and intriguing when I first happened upon it.
Now unfortunately it looks like more than just a possibility that the prediction becomes reality.
It is quite possible that an entire meltdown in the economy is exactly the end goal here. Then the Government can take everything over to “rescue us”.
Going to get really interesting around Thanksgiving.
Come on boys and girls, walk out.
IMO China is running the White House.
Joe Blow wants pilots to take the experimental unlicensed so called vaccine.
I’m thinking that he’s trying to weaken our Air force.
Joe blow wants to discharge anyone in our Navy that doesn’t take the experimental unlicensed mystery potion.
https://trendingpolitics.com/breaking-navy-to-discharge-sailors-over-covid-vax-crugg/
Meanwhile China is targeting our satellites in space.
https://spacenews.com/pentagon-report-china-amassing-arsenal-of-anti-satellite-weapons/
if a pilot – military or otherwise – gets the jab and gets one of the many side effects that have been reported – that person’s flying career is over. Since the effects of the jab are not reversible the ending is permanent.
On the bright side, the Bidenites may have accidentally stumbled on a way to significantly lower the Federal “workforce”, by firing those who refuse the jab
MUCH better than the phoney “”Govt shutdown” kabuki theater the Uniparty puts on every year or two.
Although, given what happened to McCabe, even if they DID fire them, they would probably still end up getting paid,..:-(
I saw a quick clip where Zeke “the Cryptkeeper” Emanuel said that 53% of the U.S. population was vaccinated.
My thought was that he is so arrogant that he didn’t even give a thought about giving fake numbers like Biden or Fauci.
Fits with his entire elite attitude on the Obamacare representation. He just doesn’t care what anyone thinks so he delivers his own edicts.
Where are the lawsuits on behalf of federal employees?
where are their unions defending them?
I would state the situation differently. Compliance is not the issue. Choice is the issue. Forty percent of TSA employees have chosen not to take a vaccine (that is not a vaccine). A substantial portion of TSA employees have no medically compelling reason to be injected.
Employees are being illegally coerced into being injected with a dangerous, ineffective “potion” that very well might kill them. They know this.
Therefore: “40% of your work force is fired, and the rest of them walk off the job in solidarity.”
Next morning, air travelers around the country arrive at the airport and they cannot “pass through security” because there is no one there. Airlines can’t legally put them on board unless they’re cleared. So: On November 23rd, all air transportation in this country stops.
“Okay, now what, flyboy?” ?
Maybe it never occurred to you that people might have read MLK’s Letter From A Birmingham Jail, in which they learned about the strategy of “disruptive, non-violent resistance.” They never used the 2nd Amendment, they never went for their guns or did anything illegal … but they stopped you cold.
love love love your comments Mike.
But the people who walk off the job may not all do it for ‘solidarity”. They just don’t want to do the work all by themselves when the rest of the work force is fired.
if Air Traffic control and Airport maintenance stops too (think refueling and de icing) then the rest of aviation stops too
again – law of unintended consequences
The chance than on Nov 23 all air transportation (for passengers) in this country stops is a very real possibility.
I am under State mandate and it is absolutely my contention, and has been all along, that the State is, and has been, illegally coercing its’ employees to get this vaccine.
Each subsequent coercive email has only resulted in an increase in my negative reaction to said coercive emails.
I can envision the Airline Industry looking for a bailout.
Look at the pictures…all shaken down are white and over 75…really…a threat?
However since statistics proved that young Muslim males are responsible for 95% of terrorist activities…we don’t want to offend this “group” by scrutinizing them a little more. We then are racists.
Stupidity of mandates.
https://mobile.twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1448732648516562946
I read today that Delta said they are 90% vax compliant.
I have thought these numbers inflated all along. They try to make everyone think compliance is inevitable because everyone is getting it.
I wonder if the Bidenistas blinked and are having second thoughts.
The official Chi Com spokeswoman/banshee, Dr. Leana Wen, now says that the boosters should be a VALUE JUDGMENT BEST LEFT UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL. WTF?
A major point of contention around boosters is the purpose of vaccination. Is it to prevent hospitalization & death, or is to reduce symptomatic disease? I argue that this is not a scientific question, but a value judgment best left up to the individual. https://washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/
Let’s see, Congress, the Postal Service, TSA, 33 rd Degree Freemasons, CFR members, Bilderbergers, have a special immunity granted to them by Baal so they do not need to be vaccinated.
Divoc
Divoc
“DIVOC is an open source project (MIT License) created in India to help rapid rollout of digital credentials for vaccination programs, manage core registries to support vaccination credentialing, and optionally collect post vaccination feedback from citizens. This project is maintained by eGov Foundation.”
https://divoc.egov.org.in/about-project-team
“ The economic systems in the United States cannot function if 40% of the workforce just refuses the vaccine” not true they’ll just dump all the work on me like they always do ????
so how long are you willing to do all the work while everyone else is skiing?
The vaccine doesn’t have anything to do with that. You know it’s a rule, “the more work you do, the more work you’re given.”
We have been getting a slew of intimidating and threatening emails about being “fully Vaxxed” by 12/8 from the Government Contractor where I work.
Today, at 1500, just before everyone leaves for the weekend (we work Mon-Thurs, 4-10) we get an email to all employees that if you take the jab by 12/8 they will gove you a $1000 incentive.
I was able to look at the spot price and figuring in the premium for non numismatic quality silver dollars and half dollars, that they were offering about $990, or “30 Pieces of Silver” for you to ake the jab!
No.
Just NO!
We have limiting conditions of operations that will shut us down below a certain number of employees out. I’m sure management is feeling the heat.
Notice how the people being patted down are all old white people and 75% are women? This is the reason I decided not to fly ever again, before the mask stuff. They are selecting and setting up older women to meet their quotas. They know old white women will not make a fuss and actually think it is making them safe. Ask around; ask all your older white women friends or relatives…have you been targeted by tsa..and patted down. I have had it; the last time this was done to me I was visibly angry and the tsa agent was visibly nervous…they can take their planes and shove it…I will drive or not go.
But they have a few million refugees, and illegal immigrants etc. to take their place, already in the USA. I am sure china would send a few million volunteers to help out.
Lots of Blacks in the TSA….
At the risk of repeating myself and being annoying
The law of unintended consequences
A treeper commented the other day about the spoiled elites. They cannot function without us. Forget the percent. Forget the entire economy shutting down. We are skilled at taking care of ourselves and each other.
The people who are used to demanding they be cared for cannot survive. They are the ones issuing compliance mandates. I don’t care if it is an elected official or a big company like SW airlines. They think WE are there to serve THEM.
Unfortunately for them, we don’t see it that way. That’s why so many are willing to be fired or quit. They are intelligent enough to know the jab kills – and they are unwilling to die for ‘them’
as Mike Adams – Natural News – said…
When groups of informed Americans rise up and say, “No!” to the genocidal vaccine tyrants, the tyrants are eventually forced to back down for the simple reason that you can’t run society without workers. And if those workers decide that risking their health and life isn’t worth a measly paycheck in soon-to-be-worthless dollars, society simply cannot function.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-10-15-a-contagion-of-courage-is-spreading-across-america-pilots-police-firefighters.html
Example- The Hag once admitted she hadn’t driven a car in years and years.
how about a hair dresser? makeup applier? dress cleaner / ironer? make the bed? polish the nails? hold arm going up or down stairs (can’t forget the pix) the term ‘personal care’ doesn’t even begin to cover the needs
in ‘the hag’s’ case Humma doesn’t begin to do it all for her i’ll bet …
We should have a nationsl no vaxx stay home day, anyone against mandates all stay home on the same day, like on a wednesday
Even better if people stay home and give no indication when, if ever, they will return.
(Easy for me to say, being retired.)
but i’ll bet you (like me) have been there and done that 🙂