Pay close attention to what Victoria, Australia, Health Minister Martin Foley says at the 2:45 minute mark of his comments.
Health Minister Foley announced 867 new COVID cases recorded yesterday. During the statistical outline Foley identifies 375 people as hospitalized, 81 people in intensive care and 61 people on a ventilator. Then comes the statistic everyone in government and media ignore. Amid the recorded cases “78% of the hospital cases are fully vaccinated, and 17% are partially vaccinated (1 dose)”….
That means 95% of the COVID patients in Victoria hospitals are vaccinated.
356 people out of 375 patients are vaccinated, yet 81 people are still in intensive care with 61 on a ventilator. WATCH (prompted):
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What good are the vaccinations if 78% of those occupying the hospital are fully vaccinated?
Keep in mind, this tracks with what we have been saying about sample populations around the world in general. The percentage of people sick and hospitalized is directly equivalent to the percentage of people vaccinated in the population. If 50% of the population is vaccinated, 50% of the hospitalized patients will be vaccinated. The vaccine makes no difference.
Victoria is reflecting this same issue, perhaps worse. 78% of the hospital patients are fully vaccinated, that’s actually a higher percentage than the population vaccinated as a whole. Meaning vaccinated people are arriving at the hospital in greater percentage than they represent in the population. The vaccine could be making people suffer more severe outcomes. Watch it again. These are his own statements.
It’s not hard to see what’s going on.
Big Brother says the non vaccinated are the problem.
The deaths and positive test results are actually from the so called vaccines.
They call it some new variant and the sheep eat it up.
I want to figure out a way to make the vaccinated not feel regret for getting the vaccine. We need them for overthrowing tyranny. If they feel steadfast in their decisions we are all screwed.
We already feel regret. Count on us to stand with you.
Therapies for Vaccinated – I have posted this before, but maybe it can help you.
There are now some great websites and videos out there now on what medicines and vitamins can help counter the very harmful effects of the COVID vaccine. These can help reduce inflammation, remove spike proteins, eliminate graphene oxide, and heal mRNA damage.
In this video, Sarah Westall interviews Dr. Joe Nieusma. He explains the various therapies, like Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, Carbon C60, Glutathione, and others. This is well worth watching if you have taken the COVID vaccine or want to help loved ones who have had it.
Link: Removing Spike Proteins, Eliminating Graphene Oxide, Reversing Mrna Damage, & More W/ Dr. Nieusma 51:22
https://www.bitchute.com/video/F8djRQzofIF1/
Here are additional websites offering help to those who took the vaccine:
Summary of the Spike Protein Protocol – David Avocado Wolf
https://ambassadorlove.wordpress.com/2021/06/24/summary-of-the-spike-protein-protocol-david-avocado-wolf/
Graphene Oxide Detox Protocols For The Vaxxed and Unvaxxed
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=80650
Possible Antidote V-Serum & Spike Protein Contagion Judy Mikovits
https://rightsfreedoms.wordpress.com/2021/05/15/how-to-guard-against-the-spike-protein-contagion-caused-by-the-covid-vaccinated/
Thank you. I have looked for this info before unsuccessfully. I plan to share it with my vaxed loved ones.
I’m taking a 20 mg quinine pill and 50 mg zinc pill per day as a prophylactic. I’m taking the amount of quinine that is in the gin and tonic that British officers in India drank daily so that they wouldn’t get malaria. About 40 to 5o mg of zinc is considered to be safe dosage, but more than that and I could deprive my body of needed copper.
My prophylactic choice of these non-prescription supplements is based upon three articles:
1. HCQ (a form of quinine that is safer in high dosages) works if given in the early stages of COVID as proven in a randomized clinical trial:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.22.20040758v3
2. Quinine works even better than HCQ against Covid in the testtube:
https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/13/4/647
3. HCQ with zinc was found to be 23% more effective than HCQ alone when given in the early stages of a COVID infaction:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.02.20080036v1
I know a few people that are taking horse dewormer as a prophylactic. Some believe it even cures cancer.
You mean the drug which has been used safely in humans for decades, is sold over the counter in many countries, won a Nobel Prize, and is on the WHO list of essential medicines?
Drugs approved for one purpose are used to treat other conditions ALL THE TIME. There are tons of studies investigating additional uses of ivermectin (yes, including cancer treatments and anti-viral uses). You really cannot rely on our media for accurate information, especially about science.
Here’s a reasonable summary or background. https://rjvillanueva.com/the-history-of-ivermectin/
I would wait until you have symptoms before you take that much zinc unless you are old and have immune issues… Also heating your body is helpful… checkout medcram on their website.
Prolonged high levels of zinc might also affect coopper.
Vitamin D important also.
IV vitamin C is great as both antiviral and anti-inflammatory. Reduces the need for steroid. Huge quantity first day to break in flammation/temperture (and “kill” virus).
250, 000 mg+ day1 for very serious case on O2 tank, then 100,000-150,000 mg per 24hr for several days then 50,000 mg per 24 hr , breathing w/o O2 tank. A 166 lb guy.
Large doses of ivermectin (60-120 mg/day, peak) other vitamins and minerals needed makeup.
You are right — we need the vaccinated to join the nonvaccinated, united we win and divided we fail.
We should all work to reconcile with the other side??
True, but remember that there is no other side. We’re all in this together. Right from the beginning. Looking at it as two different, and possibly opposing sides, is what helps fuel the division that is integral to a strategy against us.
Its NOT whether someone took the vaccine or not, its whats in their head, …
SOME, those same Karens who accosted people for not wearing masks, applaud Joes coercion to get everyone vaxxed.
Others, such as the vaxxed who read and post here, have regrets, and as posted above stand with us.
It seems to me, every false narrative pushed by the Commies, eventual crashes into the truth, and every time that happens, OUR #’S grow, and theirs shrinks.
Happened a lot, over time, especially since the elevator ride.
Bidens afghanistan bug out, trashing the economy, all this is losing THEM support, and gaining us support.
Biden may actually do as much or more, to swell our ranks as his predecessor did, he may indeed BE “the Great Uniter”, as he unites the American people in opposition to HIM.
Anyway, its not vaxxed vs unvaxxed, its whats in your HEAD, not whats in your body.
I’m telling my vaccinated friends that they need me to stay unvaccinated so I can help them when they get sick. I am even more resolved to avoid the “fakezine” because I will be needed to help them.
They should regret it. It is harming them.
What I think you might be saying is that you want to figure out a way for them to “save face” when they may feel like the ones who didn’t get it are saying WE TOLD YOU SO!. That being said, there were and are extremely belligerent ones who called people murderers and deniers and basically insulted those who chose not to take the shot and mocked us relentlessly. Some of them will never admit anything & I am not sure we need those people for anything.
But for the nicer ones, if that is what you want, just tell them that they are forgiven. They thought they were doing a good thing, but they were lied to.
No different than those who still insist “Trump said the White Nationalists were good people, and told people to take bleach for covid!”
THEY refuse to “admit they were wrong”, just like THEY refuse to admit taking the vax was wrong.
Again, its what in, or not in their brain and heart that matters.
My daughter is one of your so called nice ones.She basically had a gun pointed at her head.Take this or lose your job.She has now had an adverse response .It people like her, and i bet thats the vast majority, who are paying the price.
I posted this yesterday. I spoke with a man in his late 60’s who took both jabs with his wife, after getting Covid. While he said they had no nasty side effects, neither of them will take the boosters. He just said that too much information has come out for him to want it.
Good for them- an open mind! My (former?) best friend is jabbed and my husband works with a group comprised of prominent scientists and doctors, all opposing vaccines and the mandates. He is inundated with scientific facts about the dangers of these vaccines all day, every day, some of which I shared with my friend. Be damned if she STILL comes down on the side of mandatory vaccinations. Why? Because the ” experts” on TV say blah blah blah. I have given up- my intention was to save her from boosters but if she’d rather save face than herself, she can’t be helped and my time is better spent saving others.
If I thought for 1 millisecond that any republican would overthrow tyranny I would repent.
I think they will or will not feel regret based on their own unique circumstances. But I agree that it is not our place to judge someone else’s choice, and we need to show respect even while trying to provide real information and get them to understand that we have been lied to by agencies and institutions.
This makes sense especially as they variants mutate further from the original (Alpha). This is a form of ADE (subset of another broader term). If this is Delta imagine the consequences when the vax’d who are chasing this virus created another mutation or some government entity already had one made and lets it loose. Doubtful the latter because this doesn’t help the ultimate goal which is to vax everyone so it will probably be a natural mutation. The goal of Western Governments is to eliminate the control group so that when problems arise in the future they can blame damn near anything they want. Having a clearly defined control group makes that extremely difficult. It also throws sand into the passport making machine which is an even more loftier goal. And let’s not forget about the biggest prizes of all Absolute Control and Depopulation.
To the unvax’d a word of caution. The worst dangers ahead as variants come on the scene will be for the vax’d. Their newly artificial immune system will assist the new variant into infecting them. They most likely will have a very difficult time fighting it off. That being said they will also be super spreaders. For those of you who already have natural immunity I say awesome but to those who do not be cautious and seek early treatment especially if you are high risk.
I generally agree that the unvaxxed would do best to adjust their daily health regimen if they haven’t already for preventative/mitigating gameplan. It is not merely good over/against Covid, but all viruses. In addition to a good diet (sorry, but keep sugar low), and sufficient sleep, then the need to add supplementation (Daily 90 vitamins and minerals from a reputable company–I use Youngevity but there are other good ones too), and go for the forms giving maximum absorbability by the body, usually liquid form, so Vit C, Vit D3/K2, Zinc + Quercetin, NAC (though it looks like the FDA is banning it), Calcium/Magnesium, Melatonin before bed, etc. Supplementation has to be done daily as a preventative, a permanent lifestyle change.
Everyone needs to keep nourished and rested. Vaxed and unvaxed.
This doesn’t mean much without the base rate statistics. The people most likely to be hospitalized are the elderly, who will be more likely to be vaccinated than the general population. It’s true, the vaccines are imperfect, but they work by helping the immune system recognize the virus. Guess who tends to have weak immune systems? That’s right, the elderly and folks who will end up in the ICU over these things.
Now, please don’t interpret that as a defense of Australia’s insanity over Covid. If anything, it’s a good reason not to be so forceful in making people vaccinated. I have family who cannot vaccinate, myself.
But this stat doesn’t really prove the hypothesis that vaccines are somehow dangerous. There are millions of people who are vaccinated right now, so the “untested” narrative is getting a bit silly at this point. There’s also no good reason to think that this will have long-term effects. Yes, there are rare adverse events, but if you’re going to laugh off a 2% mortality rate from Covid, I don’t see how you can sensibly freak out over a 0.002% risk of a vaccine injury.
Most people would happily trade a 2% risk of death for a 0.002% risk, and you can see that most people are doing so. Yes, the medical industry is full of greedy bastards, but they’re putting this vaccine in their own arms, too. So I don’t blame people for being up in arms about the left using this as an excuse to take our freedom, because they absolutely are doing that, but I also don’t think there’s a good reason to freak out over the rare problems with the vaccine.
But hey, I have skin in the game here. If this is going to kill me or make getting Covid worse, well, I already took it and I never had anything worse than a sore arm. Meanwhile a friend of mine’s brother died of Covid. So I’m doing my best to pick the best option for my own health and I hope you do the same.
But we do need to make sure that this remains a free country, this has lead to crazy restrictions before. For example, go read Buck v. Bell sometime. The Supreme Court in that case then ruled that because it had previously been decided that it was okay to force people to vaccinate, it’d be just fine to forcibly sterilize people. Yeah, I don’t think that’s good law any more, but it just shows how things can get ugly when people are out for themselves. Feel free to quote that one to bother the leftists who want to take away your freedom.
The mortality rate for covid is nowhere near 2%, last time I saw it was around 0.4% So you built your entire comment around a bald faced lie.
Exactly
Sophistry is the deliberate use of a false argument with the intent to trick someone or a false or untrue argument.
An example of sophistry is when you use a fact in an argument to make your point even though you know the point is false.
https://www.yourdictionary.com/sophistry
John’s Hopkins says 1.6% mortality. But I thought it was less than 1% too.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
The 1.6% mortality statistic includes, and is inflated by the much higher case fatality rate at the start of the epidemic – typically over 10%.
You have to question why John’s Hopkins and the rest push the most negative interpretation possible from complex data.
Reminder: John Hopkins sponsored Event 201 where they practiced what they would do and say to manipulate people during a pandemic. Look it up. John Hopkins is NOT TO BE TRUSTED.
Just to make it easier to verify:
https://centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/
It’s true that there’s uncertainty in that number, that’s why I quoted to one significant figure only, rather than being listed as 2.0% or such. A few tenths of a percent are irrelevant when the comparison is between two numbers that differ by multiple orders of magnitude.
yep. I think the magnitude is dropping… Even Moderna and Pfizer are already at 90-95% effective against serious illness and death… So it’s 10x or 20x advantage now… not 100x.
I’d like to know where you get a “0.002% risk of a vaccine injury.”
The vast majority of adverse reactions are not reported to VAERS, and the VAERS system itself states that it only reflects about 10% of adverse events. I personally know 4 people who had serious adverse reactions to covid vaccines, and none who reported them to VAERS. One missed 6 weeks of work, but still did not file a VAERS report because “well, I can’t prove it was caused by the vaccine.” (and with 4 children and having missed 6 weeks of work, well, filing a complex report which won’t actually benefit you or your family just isn’t a high priority).
One, a nurse, has struggled (still weeks later) with multiple adverse effects after the first dose and said she started to file a VAERS report, but just hasn’t felt well enough for gathering and documenting all the information required.
We do know that there have been more VAERS reports of adverse reactions to Covid vaccines than all of the other vaccine-adverse-reaction reports combined – since VAERS began in 1990. And we have ZERO studies of the long term effects of graphene oxide injected into humans or of mRNA vaccines. No one can quantify the risk of long term harm because they have no data at all.
That’s the biggest comment ratio I think I have ever seen here. (60 upvotes for you = 60 downvotes to the vaccine disinformation you responded to.)
Well done treepers.
Unless your old and have comorbidities.
I really don’t F’in care who did what with whatever fluid they want to jab in people’s arms.
The day they say I must take the jab is when I go to work.
Actually, in Australia (where I live), people of all ages & medical conditions are being jabbed left, right and centre. It isn’t only the aged and infirm in hospitals.
Are they force vaccinating?
No, not yet, but you get no work if you don’t in a lot of job positions.
Queensland stood down 1200 police because they would not submit, not sure of other states.
The construction workers originally had the support of their union, under Setka, but there is word he may have become somewhat well off, and changed his mind. That is most of the reason why they marched, and just to be a nasty piece of work, Andrews the Premier, stood the all down, hence more protests. He is very vindictive person, who has hate and fire in his eyes in the press conferences.
He has already proved that he would sneakily sell Victoria’s interests to the Chinese, with their belt and road initiative, he had guaranteed the Chinese would get many contracts in the state for their money.
We once had Prime Minister, Whitlam, who tried to use money from the Arabs to get them out of the crap.
Stand up Australia, get rid of theses treasonous, Communist bully boys.
Yes, that’s why the base rate of vaccination is high. But the hospitalized population is mostly the old & infirm.
You have my condolences, though. AU has it incredibly rough, I absolutely do not support the jackbooted thuggery they’re engaging in. From what I’ve heard, they aren’t even recognizing medical reasons not to vaccinate, which is completely crazy. There’s a reason the ethical standard is supposed to be informed consent. AU is having none of that and is rightfully condemned for being absurdly authoritarian in their approach.
What really scares me is the stats that will come out later will be used to excuse authoritarianism. “See! Authoritarianism works, let’s all become more authoritarian.” Good luck resisting.
I respectfully disagree re long term side effects. Thrombocytopenia, autoimmune disease, Parkinsons are real and present following the gene therapy jab. Meanwhile, this supposed “vaccine” neither prevents infection nor prevents transmission. The myocarditis and pericarditis in the young is real. The gene therapy should be halted now.
+ there are alternative treatments for Covid.
The “Vaccines” – the best that can be said for them – mitigate the virus.
There are more than a couple of other treatments that do that too — but they are cheap – so they have been demonized.
In your own words, “2% mortality rate” where do you get your information? Covid is 99% survivable, and if treated with monoclonal therapy early completely survivable. Maybe instead of preaching to others why they should get the vaccine you spend some time actually understanding how many healthcare “professionals” want no part of this vaccine. Further, there are underdeveloped countries faring much better because they aren’t greedy and playing politics. Jab away if you must that is your right, but understand all need to find their own paths.
Many of the underdeveloped countries had much broader use of HCQ and Ivermectin, to treat diseases that aren’t in more highly developed countries, hence having lower rates.
Because they have TRIED to ban HCQ and Ivermectin use, in USA and most industrialised countries, we don’t have anything else, to compare early intervention with HCQ or Ivermectin, with the jab.
But, even that is enough to show a clear distinction.
She didn’t tell anyone to get the vaccine. She just explained hrer own reasoning.
The immediate (defined as within two weeks) death rate and immediate serious side effects, as in blood clotting, myocarditis, lung issues, extreme fatigue/weakness is already far too high to risk agreeing to participate in this mRNA gene therapy trial. The actual ingredients are unknown in any of the chemical cocktails, and long term effects are impossible for anyone to know. At least 10 to 15 years of trials are necessary to understand what can/will happen to a human being. Warnings include cancers, sterility, heart conditions, clotting and any number of complete unknowns.
These are the first mass drug trials that purposefully avoid collecting data on deaths and injuries in history.
Very knowledgeable virologists and vaccine creators advise immediately ceasing administering these drugs, citing unacceptable death rates and the fact the shots are causing the virus to rapidly mutate and become enhanced. People who submit to the drugs are becoming super spreaders and are endangering public health.
It is inexplicable that patients are not immediately treated when first symptomatic with a multitude of known, safe and proven pharmaceutical options that are extremely effective in healing the patient, avoiding hospitalizations and deaths.
In theory it is your right to inject whatever you want into your body, but by doing so, you endanger the rest of the public by enhancing and shedding the virus at far higher rates.
Brian,
You have very succinctly expressed the realities and concerns of taking this freaking shot. It’s amazing, or maybe not amazing, that everything we’re currently hearing is exactly the opposite of what is actually taking place.
> The immediate (defined as within two weeks) death rate and immediate serious side effects, as in blood clotting, myocarditis, lung issues, extreme fatigue/weakness is already far too high to risk agreeing to participate in this mRNA gene therapy trial.
The immediate death rate ignores things like comorbidities. If you vaccinate a bunch of 90 year olds because they’re high risk, of course a number of them are going to die, simply because the base mortality rate in those populations was already high. All the other issues are also reported for Covid and happen at similar rates.
Calling it “gene therapy” makes it sound like it edits your genes. It doesn’t, the mRNA simply produces spikes for a few days to trigger your immune system, then the mRNA is destroyed by your body’s natural defenses. The sequences are available on Github to anyone who cares to look. Yes, it’s been sequenced by outside labs.
The shots themselves do not cause the virus to mutate, how would that even work? What is happening are selection effects where the virus variants that spread are those which can evade the vaccine. The spike protein was chosen because it’s highly conserved (i.e. hard to change without making the virus weaker). The delta variant showed that there is still a way. The reason delta is more dangerous to vaccinated people than those with natural immunity is because those with natural immunity have immune systems that saw more of the virus, so they may still recognize it whereas people who had the mRNA vaccines (like in Israel) saw only the spike and probably only recognize parts of the spike. Delta changed that, so they may not recognize the spikes any more.
I haven’t seen any evidence that thousands of people are dying from the vaccine every day for months. You need that kind of number to get in the same ballpark as Covid deaths. It’s a complete non-starter for risk if not.
That’s not to say there aren’t particular people who have good reason not to vaccinate. People who have had prior reactions to vaccines, like one in my own family, have been properly advised not to vaccinate and I fully support this. It’s a very good reason to oppose absurd and abusive mandates like those in Australia.
But for most populations, they’re trading a small risk for an even smaller one by vaccinating.
> The actual ingredients are unknown in any of the chemical cocktails, and long term effects are impossible for anyone to know. At least 10 to 15 years of trials are necessary to understand what can/will happen to a human being.
The spike proteins are gone in a few days, what’s left to cause these mystery problems 10 years later? Antibody dependent enhancement? There’s no good reason to think that’s a high risk because Covid doesn’t target the right cells for that and we haven’t seen evidence of this happening at scale.
We know that Covid is a small risk. The vaccine injuries are a real, but even smaller risk. That doesn’t mean zero–people can and have been harmed–but the chances are much, much lower than they are for Covid. Rates like 1 in 100 are not at all similar to 1 in 1,000,000. And you need something that can bridge multiple orders of magnitude.
You’ve made a whole lot of claims with no sources or data to support. I’ve heard most of these claims in the media, but when I search for relevant scientific studies, I find evidence to contradict most of what the media repeats.
Just for one, can you share scientific studies showing that the spike proteins are gone in 2 weeks?
And what makes you think the spike proteins are the only thing that could cause long term harm?
I really don’t see how the vaccines will increase mutations… The whole theory behind that was it creates a more deadly variant… and that variant kills the unvaccinated but doesn’t kill the vaccinated….
This would be true if the virus killed people quickly.. but it doesn’t… the virus doesn’t actually kill anybody… It’s the immune overreaction to all the dead virus particles that kill people.
So… it is likely there is no difference in vaccinated or unvaccinated creating variants… Variants are possible anytime the virus is replicating.
Dude, pay attention. We’ll educate you. https://leohohmann.com/
Thumbs up on your comment. Seems to be some stealthy anti-anti-vaxxers making so-called thoughtful and earnest sounding comments.
Used to be called concern trolling back in the old days.
I looked over the site. I broadly agree with their points that the propaganda they’re doing is disgusting and that they’re jackbooted thugs. I support the right of people to have informed consent. That’s why I make comments to inform and do not support the crazy leftists who want to push this stuff by force. The numbers matter, and when comparing the risk of vaccine injury (which is real), they’re just so much smaller than the risk of Covid it’s not even in the same ballpark. You don’t have thousands of people dropping dead from vaccine injury for months and you need that to get anywhere near Covid’s numbers.
You’re going to see a lot more stats like this in places with high vaccination rates, because in those the base rates are skewed. I suggest reading up on the base rate fallacy so as not to get mislead by the numbers. It’s true that the vaccines are not perfect, but they’re also not poison. If I’m wrong about that, my own family will be the ones to drop dead. We’re doing just fine, though.
“ There’s also no good reason to think that this will have long-term effects.”
An untested novel vaccine that spreads through major organs through the pulmonary system is plenty of good reason to think this will have long term effects.
Dr Ryan Cole on the marked increase in unusual and aggressive cancers:
Calling it “untested” when it just got administered to millions of people around the world doesn’t make much sense. You would need to see thousands dropping dead per day for months to get anything like parity with Covid.
You need a lesson in logic. Administering something to millions is not the same as “testing” something, which usually happens on animals . . . . unless, of course, you’re advocating that people be the guinea pigs, which has all kinds of ethical problems attached to it.
And secondly, “You would need to see thousands dropping dead per day” only deals with short-term side effects and only ONE type of side effect, i.e., death.
So let me ask, what about other short-term side effects that haven’t killed people (yet) and what about the long-term side effects?
Oh, that’s right. We don’t know what those are because this blankety-blank poison jab WASN’T PROPERLY TESTED!
It’s just a protein… how long can the proteins last before your body digests them and removes them or the cells they are attached to.
What makes you think that it’s just a protein?
Every vaccine has lots of other ingredients. This CDC document explains some of them in fully approved vaccines.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/excipient-table-2.pdf
For example, the DTaP vaccine, Infarix, contains: “formaldehyde, aluminum hydroxide, sodium chloride, polysorbate 80 (Tween 80).”
Formaldehyde and polysorbate 80 are known carcinogens. The vaccine was not studied for carcinogenic effects. Aluminum hydroxide is an “adjuvant” included to irritate the immune/nervous system to force the infants’ immature system to react or respond to the vaccine. Aluminum in all forms is a neurotoxin. They did not study whether or not the aluminum from the vaccine crosses the blood-brain-barrier. We do know that whenever aluminum does cross that BBB, the human body has no mechanism for removing it. Vaccine manufacturers like to do studies on ingested aluminum so they can report no negative effects, but injecting a substance is very, very different than ingesting it. Hidden within many of the studies which “found no ill effects from ingested aluminum” you can often find subtle hints/statements that injected aluminum does cause harm. The below study is just one example.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0892036295000029?via%3Dihub
Finally, they have not even revealed what all the ingredients ARE in the covid vaccines. Just look at all that is redacted in the EUA document:
Section 5.4. Chemistry, Manufacturing, and Control (CMC) Information
But we do know that there are fragments of foreign DNA from the cell lines used in manufacturing, and we do know that the vaccines contain graphene oxide.
So, no, the Covid vaccines are not “just a protein.” None of the vaccines used in the USA are “just a protein. And none of them have ever been studied for carcinogenesis nor mutagenesis.
2% mortality rate? Based on Pfizer and modern clinical trial data, the infection rate was less than 0.5%, and among those infected, 99.9% and more, depending on ages, survived.
A lie told hundreds of times is still a lie, it doesn’t matter if it is told by pros or fools.
If you remove all those that Cuomo, Whitmer and other govs (MN Walz?) Killed innursing homes, along with early treatments that eventually proved to be wrong (vents) the mortality rate is even lower. This is a very survivable virus. We stand a better chance of recovering from it than the protocols of those using it for political advantage.
You’re basing the numbers on one study’s results of a small population that can skew and seemingly quoting numbers for a small vaccinated population. I’m quoting them to one significant figure (there’s a reason I don’t say 2.0%) with numbers across the pandemic. Also, infection rates are a moving target–more people get infected over time. Also treatment protocols are not static, they’ve changed over the pandemic as new theraputics are considered, so I don’t think there’s just one number, if anything the mortality rate should be going down.
To show how the figures you quote are a distortion of statistics, consider someone who knows one lotto winner and one non-lotto winner who thinks that winning the lotto is 50-50, instead of looking at the numbers across everyone who played the lotto, most of whom did not win.
Anyhow, even if you manage to quibble it down to, say, 0.1%, which I don’t even see anyone contending, you’re still multiple orders of magnitude away from the rates of vaccine injury. We’ve seen many thousands of people dying of Covid daily for months over the pandemic. You’re not seeing that with the vaccine.
True, the stat does not prove that the vaccines are harmful. But it does definitively prove that they are not vaccines.
How do you know they are putting this vaccine in their own arms? There is no possible way anybody could know that. Why do you think many of the nurses are not getting the shot? We have no idea what the long term effects of this vaccine are. And you must not be doing much research or you would know that the problems with the vaccine are far from “rare.”
Excellent post.
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Much less than 1% mortality rate. Where did you get the 2% number?
I love this argument. The vaccines are really working, it’s just that old people are mostly vaccinated and they are the ones being hospitalized. Gee. You think. Kind of like exactly how it was before the vaccines?
Facts:
– We will never know the TRUE infection rate of COVID, EVER, due to the shenanigans with the faulty PCR producing an outrageous number of false-positives due to a lack of standardization on the number of cycles test are run at. But infection rate is assuredly much less than we’ve been told. Fruit can test positive if the test is run at a high enough cycle rate.
-We will never know the TRUE death rate, EVER, due to the shenanigans of hospitals being paid bonus money for reporting any death as COVID causation . Suicides, car fatalities, cancer, heart attacks….you name it, if they tested positive, that’s enough to report COVID as the cause of death rather than the real cause.
Has anyone ever heard of a false-negative COVID test? No, only false-positives. Therefore, all of the statistics are truly lower, not higher than claimed.
Those are facts.
I know it may sound paranoid, but the fact that hospitals get bonus money for every Covid-caused death is one reason why I would want to do everything I could to avoid going to the hospital if I come down with Covid (again–had it last year, 5 days of mild symptoms, though I was dosing my supplements like crazy)
Exactly – they’re still killing them with the vent.
Excellent, C2C! It’s true. We will never know. Rough figures may give us a general glimpse of the truth, but not enough to argue point on point in the battle of ideas, since information continues to dribble in. No matter what one believes, everyone should be interested in the therapeutics, both recommended and alternative. Whether one is vaccinated or not, nobody wants a bad case of anything. Hence, it’s good to know, in general, what keeps a body healthy and what helps kill off quickly invading viruses. We will always be living with them, AND WE’RE NOT GOING TO WEAR MASKS NEXT TIME AROUND. Someone should tell this to Fauci.
For me, it is the principle of my body, my choice, and the FACT that there are other drugs out there that are tried and true, not to mention cheap, and those very drugs have been banned as an option. How can anyone not see that is a problem? So yeah, there is something very off about this so called vaccine they are forcing on people. To each his own.
I personally don’t know of a single person who died of covid, but I know six people who died after being vaccinated. Everyone has to do what they feel is right for them. I would rather take my chance with COVID than take the vaccine.
Most of you have NO basis for making conclusions based on the information being put out by either the vaxers or anti-vaxers. The subject is way over your heads statistically and biologically. It will take 5-10 years of reconstruction to understand what really happened.
A lot of you are taking on a rather anti-human judgemental posture and ranting against your fellow man when you have no idea of the rationale for someone else’s decisions. I find that appalling and puts you in the mob category in my mind.
When one side changes the definitions of words and terms and constantly, unceasingly hides evidence and the other side doesn’t … any sensible person will go with the latter.
While it is true that none of us know, we are being confronted in the here and now with these diabolical mandates to take something into our system that many of us feel is not safe. We have to make our own judgments and determinations based on whatever information we can garner for ourselves now. None of us have the luxury of waiting another 5-10 years to make that determination. And I don’t see where any of us who don’t favor taking this so-called vaccine are telling anyone else either to take it or not to take it. We are exactly leaving that determination to each person to decide for themselves. All we are demanding is the ability to also make that determination for ourselves.
Calling someone anti-human is being judgmental.
Saying that the subject of covid is way over our heads is being judgmental.
Calling someone part of the mob is being judgmental.
Knocking down straw-men in order to demean Treepers wasn’t very nice of him either.
Absolute truth! Best post of the thread! As the software folks say “Garbage in garbage out”! All the data out there is nothing but garbage.
Just because the vaccine has been given to millions of human lab rats, does not mean that the vaccine is safe. No body knows what the long term effects of the vaccine is because it has not been out long enough to know. There is not a single person who can make the claim that the vaccine is safe and tested, because that would be a lie.
Truth is, Big pharma has been using ALL of us, as ‘labrats’, uncompensated test subjects, for MANY years.
The process of developing a new medication;
First, tests in test tubes.
Then, tests on animals.
If all goes well, then tests on healthy subjects, with no underlieing conditions.
Then, tests on subjects who ONLY have the condition the med is intended to treat.
Both of which are done on relatively small groups of paid test subjects.
THEN, the final stage of drug testing, aka “Marketing”, where the med is Rx’d to hundreds of thousands of people, with a myriad of other conditions, and taking numerous other medications.
And THATS where they learn about drug interactions, contraindications, and rare but serious (potentially fatal) side effects.
We rarely take “Rx” medications, but when we do we stick with meds that are available in generic form, NOT necesarily to get the generic, but if its available in generic, its been out for more than 20 years, and so all that is known.
Its a good rule of thumb, and one of many reasons why I continue to say “In My Cold Dead Arm”.
When I was in Grad school, many of my classmates would earn extra money by signing up for drug trials. Talk about being a human lab rat! I’ve wondered many times if they developed any illnesses over the years from those trials. On top of that, most of our pharmaceuticals are now manufactured in…..China. Just a few years ago a commonly prescribed BP med had multiple “recalls” due to carcinogenic contaminants. Just great.
you forgot the last stage of the drug’s life when lawyers come in and sue for all those damages not known about.
You can’t sue vaccine manufacturers for any of the Covid vaccines. They are completely protected from any liability under the “Emergency Use Authorization.” That will change AFTER Pfizer gets it’s Comirnaty vaccine through production, final inspection and approval, and distribution in the USA.
Likewise, manufacturers of approved vaccines on the ACIP childhood schedule bear no liability for harm their vaccines cause either.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/99th-congress/house-bill/5546
Sure, but where are the mass deaths due to vaccines? We have a lot of anecdotes, but the numbers are 1 in a million-ish, whereas Covid is around 2%. Sure, there’s uncertainty in that number. I don’t know that it’s exactly 2% vs. 1.8% or 1.6% or whatever, there’s only 1 significant digit in that number for a reason, but this is a difference of multiple orders of magnitude.
That’s not even remotely comparable. Comparing the two is like comparing the Democrat’s voter fraud to the supposed Republican examples the MSM tries to trot out. And yes, I checked the magnet thing. My arm is not magnetic. I’m perfectly capable of reading the actual studies and doing statistics, as well, which is why I’m mentioning that without the base rate, this effect this article is mentioning is not meaningfully comparable.
We know how vaccines and the immune system work in significant part. My suggestion is that you listen to people who can explain how things work. You’re not wrong that the left is abusing the hell out of science to steal our freedom!
But that doesn’t mean that everyone is injecting poison into their arms. There are millions upon millions of people vaccinated now. We’re not dropping like flies. You don’t need just a few dead to compare to Covid, you need thousands of dead per day from vaccine injury to get to the same rate, not just a handful of reported cases. And if you want long term studies, well, you’ll have to find comparable populations between vaccinated and unvaccinated people for a long time because it’s the difference that matters. Everyone is going to have random health problems after long enough, just like in the long term everyone is dead. Saying there’s a causal relationship between such events and the vaccine requires a few things, like showing the rate is higher among the vaccinated after controlling for other confounders, showing a mechanism by which the vaccine can create the injury, etc.
Now, I know some people will point out myocarditis and similar things and those actually do have a mechanism related to the spike protein. But in those cases, the thing is that Covid itself also causes the same problems and at a higher rate. I have yet to find even one vaccine injury that isn’t also caused by Covid.
This makes logical sense because the vaccine can’t realistically be more deadly than the virus it’s made out of. And the vaccines are being made out of the viral mRNA. You can go look up the genetic sequence on Github if you want, yes, people have extracted it from the vaccine for study. The only real change is modifying the spike protein slightly to degrade more slowly.
I can’t blame anyone for not trusting the Democratic media, because they are lying and getting the science wrong continually. But those of us who do understand the science on our own without the “help” of idiotic journalism majors are going out and getting vaccinated. So my money is where my mouth is. I don’t want more cases like the brother of my friend who didn’t get help in time and left kids behind.
There’s no perfectly safe option and Covid will likely be around for years to come. I’d rather trade a small risk for a risk that’s several orders of magnitude smaller. It’s true that I could get unlucky, but even if that happens, I probably would’ve gotten unlucky if I got Covid. But I’m not going to cuck out on you guys, I respect your freedom not to vaccinate. Some people also have good reasons to not vaccinate due to bad reactions to past vaccines. I think that Australia, and any other country that does that, is crazy to mandate vaccines in those cases.
But the truth here is not political. There are good reasons to think that the risk of being vaccinated is lower than the risk of Covid for most (but not all) people. There are also good reasons why we should not force people to vaccinate.
And you’ll notice the left being hypocritcal on that part because they’d never tell people to stop having anal sex to stop AIDS. Never mind that it has created a population of immune-compromised people who are dependent on theraputics which might become unavailable during an emergency and which can lead to them boosting the spread of nearly any disease…
The truth is that people aren’t dropping dead of covid like you claim (2% fatality rate – LOL) either.
The data about infections, hospitalizations, and especially deaths is manipulated and lied about for financial and political reasons.
The data about the vaccine adverse effects and deaths is also manipulated and lied about.
Most people who have adverse effects from the vaccine experience them within 72 hours of getting the shot. But none of these adverse effects are attributed to the vaccine because people are not considered fully vaccinated until 14 days after their 2nd shot.
People who experience problems or die after vaccination go into the data as covid infections and deaths.
Adverse effects are counted as covid.
And they’re not really vaccines anyway.
An, please do some research.
The C-19 vax is experimental gene therapy, They are nothing like the traditional vaccine.
All the animals it has been test on, died.
People have found graphene oxide in them.
There are innumerable videos of people who have found that the injection point is not magnetic. There are also numerous videos of people who shake uncontrollably after taking it.
However there is hope, many people are working on protocols to help people like your self get this dangerous substance out of their body. One of the key things to take is N-Acetyl -Cysteine., or NAC.
NAC likely works because Amazon has deliberately stopped selling it. Please get a hold of some, or anything that helps the body produce glutathione.
Is graphene oxide clear and colorless? No it’s not. Graphene oxide you would be able to see. It’s brown or blackish color. look it up
Anything smaller than about 5 microns cannot be seen with the human eye. That does not mean it’s not there.
Similarly, arsenic is a grey solid. In solution (ie. oil or water) it is clear, colorless, odorless, and tasteless. That doesn’t mean it’s not there, and it doesn’t mean it isn’t harmful.
Only the pharmaceutical industry and marketing and the media claim that vaccine injuries are “but the numbers are 1 in a million-ish.”
There is NO scientific data to show that “1 in a million.” The VAERS system states quite clearly on their own website that the VAERS system only captures about 10% of the adverse reactions. So, the closest estimate we have based on actual science is 10 times the number of adverse events reported to VAERS.
There have been more adverse events reported for the Covid vaccines in the last year than all the reports for all the other vaccines EVER – combined.
My own personal speculation is that people are even less likely to report adverse reactions to the covid vaccines because:
A) They don’t want to be ridiculed or labeled an “anti-vaxxer.” B) the medical personnel who administered the covid vaccine generally do not believe the vaccine can cause adverse events other than anaphylaxis AND don’t actually know how to report to VAERS C) It is a time-consuming process; it’s not surprising no one prioritizes a report with no benefits to the patient during a “pandemic” D) Some medical professionals who have helped patients to report adverse events to VAERS have gotten in trouble for doing so.
This is the BS the Un Jabbed are up against outside of this forum. This is Big Pharma Commie Dem talking point 101. Also all Globalist Commie Pubs.
She’s giving her opinion. And it is educated. She’s not telling you nor forcing you to get the jab. So please be respectful.
Your argument is bad with numbers that don’t add up, An.
You may or may not catch Covid. First you have to catch it to be partake in it’s mortality rate. The amount of covid infections compared to the population is miniscule, and you haven’t considered that in your stats. MOST PEOPLE WILL NOT CATCH IT.
However, as soon as you choose to get injected, the roulette wheel begins to spin.
“The amount of covid infections compared to the population is miniscule,”
Based on what?
I disagree that side effects of the vaccine are less than the disease itself. That remains to be seen.
Teenage boys are more at risk for serious vaccine injuries like heart inflammation than they are from the virus itself.
The risk I fear the most is ADE (antibody dependant enhancement). Scientists have been trying to make a corona virus vaccine ever since SARS and MERS. They have failed during the animal testing mainly because of ADE. The effect of ADE is that when you catch the virus again you will be worse off than you would have been if you had not been vaccinated. Two experts who have been warning about this are Dr. Byram Bridle and Dr. Robert Malone. If you want to learn about ADE just do a search using the terms SARS, MERS, ADE, vaccine, covid. The Delta variant is as contagious as chicken pox. Lockdowns and masks won’t work. This virus is here to stay. We just need to weather it out just like we do for colds and flu. A recent Israeli study of 800,000 people showed that people who have recovered from covid have a natural immunity that is vastly superior to the limited immunity of vaccines. Also people who are treated early with drugs like ivermectin and hydrxycloroquine have a very high survival rate. Countries like India (7% vaccinated) are having great success using these treatments. Highly vaccinated countries like Israel are experiencing major covid waves.
You are either deceived or willfully ignorant. The vaccines are dangerous to many people and most importantly, insufficiently TESTED. The numbers of deaths and adverse injuries being reported to VAERS is astronomical and it isn’t even a full picture as THERE ARE MANY MORE that are not even being reported. The very fact that injuries and deaths associated with the jab and information about the adverse affects is being suppressed AND the fact that the vaccine manufacturers are completely absolved of any liability are 2 of the many red flags you are ignoring.
The vaccines were supposedly made for people with weaker immune systems or other ailments which hurt their chances of survival. That’s all. People under 70 in good shape ESPECIALLY children have no reason to take this vaccine. Main reason is because when you do you chase it and put pressure on it. Example perhaps: remember when your Doc told you to make sure you finish your antibiotics? You thought it was because you would fall ill again I suspect (me too). However the real reason was because if you did not kill the bacteria some might escape and evolve to become resistant in the future. It’s no different with a virus. And Fauci and those in charge ABSOLUTELY know/understand this concept!!
So now you have a number of “leaky” vaccines meaning they don’t work all that well. This means the virus can escape. Most of the time in nature the virus mutates into weaker but maybe more contagious forms of the original variant as to not kill the host. I believe sometimes like in Maerks disease it goes a different direction. Some immunologists/virologists are concerned this could turn out similar. Why, because this is NOT a natural virus it is chimeric (meaning spliced together by man in a lab). Tho it does seem Delta was weaker from what I understand just way more contagious.
Some staples of what I have picked up along the way. I am reasonably sure that at some point the more the variants mutate the more potent the vax’d immune system will become at working against itself. That is when dealing with another infectious coronavirus. Have NO clue but would love to have the answer as to how a vax’d individual’s immune system handles something like influenza. Not sure if it will only bug out on coronavirus type viruses or can short circuit dealing with all of them???
Well with cold/flu season approaching you can bet your ass we’re going to find out. The vax’d already didn’t do so well against Delta and it shared many similarities to Alpha. It may be why Pfizer is in such a hurry to pump out Pfizermectin. Haha it’s very similar and the owners of the Ivermectin patent should Sue their asses. But it may be the thing that keeps the vax’d alive, which is what they need. A huge die off now/immediately will not serve TPTB well. But make no mistake in later years things like Prion disease (spike protein) or cancer will claim them unless something is done.
The goal remains and will continue: Get as many people vaccinated as possible in Western Countries. And please hear me well, if that fails they go to another plan such as communication and power blackouts or maybe a fake war. If I sound crazy that’s ok but I warn you have not noticed how quickly they have been moving lately? They will not be slowing down if they are stopped. They will only retool.
Stay alert and ready friends!!
Sorry. I’m not buying your happy trade. Covid mortaliy for healthy 65 and under is closer to 0.002% than 2% and I’m uninteresting in gambling at all between 99.9% +/- and 99.9% +/- when the downside is lost limbs, paralysis, blindness, heat attack, dementia and death. Live a little, exercise, take vitamins and work with your natural immunity.
The mortality rates are different for Delta.
Here’s a question for you, An. You dismiss the vaccine injuries and tens of 1000s of deaths as insignificant in number; you say .002%. Why then, in the 70s, when .000000625 % died of the swine flu vaccine (25 people out of 40 million vaccinated) did they pull the vaccine- but they won’t do that now? Not a single person has been able to answer that for me. And til they do, I’m a hard ‘no’ on these ‘vaccinations’. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2009-apr-27-sci-swine-history27-story.html
They’re not vaccines.
The holocaust is generally regarded as the most evil thing ever. There have been larger slaughters throughout the history of mankind but, that one resonates due to the relative recent nature of it and the fact it targeted a religious group rather than an ethnic group or nationality or hapless souls subjected to benevolent social engineering. We are entering new territory now where the targeted are voluntary and even eager to participate, all for the good of the community most probably think. No need to herd into railroad cars and carry out the work in fenced in guarded compounds. No, the sheep trample each other trying to be first in line at least to a degree this writer finds frightening. If there is one iron clad lesson I have learned in 60 years on earth, it is that if the mob is heading one way I am not.
That is called a ‘cult’, my friend..
Fauchi is the modern day Jim Jones.
Also a first in that this is not one nation or a group of nations descending into madness. This is a coordinated near entire world wierd science project.
Why it’s almost Biblical ?
• Jews are members of an ethnoreligious group … in other words, both an ethnicity and a religion.
• Stalin killed 20 million, and Mao (who was a documented sadist) may have killed as many as 100 million. The Nazi German slaughter of Jews was horrible, but it was not the largest slaughter of the 20th century.
• I’m with you on not heading the same way the mob is heading… unless the mob is heading for refrigerating perishable food, abandoning outhouses for civilized plumbing, and roasting tasty turkey for Thanksgiving Day dinner.
IIRC, Ghenghis Khan slaughtered every single man, woman and child occupying lands he conquered, and making pyramids of their heads.
I would say thats pretty barbaric and inhumane,..
Mao killed more than Hitler + is revered as the model for our New World Order by the Elites establishing it…
Most Academics mistakenly call his Great Leap Forward a — Failure — because it led to the deaths of tens of millions of his own people + damaged the long-term health of untold hundreds of millions of them.
They refuse to consider — the Great Leap Forward — + later the Cultural Revolution that generated a national fever to wipe out Undesirables from the society — produced exactly what Mao was aiming for.
If you begin from the premise that your Government has the people’s best interests in mind – even when they are doing things that end up hurting them ———— you’ve been taught a faulty viewpoint of History…..
The U.S. has killed 60 million unborn babies.
Virtue-signaling is the new religion among the progressive left. The urgent need to express obedience to the latest dictates is very disconcerting.
As troubling as it may appear, if primarily it is the leftists who willingly become lemmings and charge off the cliff, maybe some good will come of it.
I keep reading/hearing about this direct 1:1 ratio btwn the percent of people who are vaccinated vs unvaccianted and those who become hospitalized, but haven’t seen any hard data that shows it. It’s one thing if half of those in the hospital are vaxed and the other half aren’t, but something else entirely if the percent of those who are vaxed and wind up in the hospital is significantly less than those who are unvaxed and wind up in the hospital. Where is the data that shows the vax percent in the population correlates w/the hospitalization percent?
Where is the hard data?
Prolly the same place all the other hard data surrounding the “Rona” is…
BURIED
Literally.
Where are the autopsies?
“95% of the COVID patients in Victoria hospitals are vaccinated.”
Did you read the post or listen to the video?
In the U.S., the CDC has done a wonderful job of hiding the facts.
Anyone who dies WITH covid is recorded as a covid death, grossly overstates covid deaths.
Anyone who dies within 14 days of receiving a “vaccine” is recorded as a covid death, not a vaccine death.
We don’t have hard data but we have seen whistle blower testimonies here and there that the hospitals are covering for the vaccinated hospitalizations.
BTW, I posted a link to Sean Hannity’s show on the previous page for you to listen.
I have been asking a simplified version of this for weeks, and haven’t gotten an answer;
They concede the vax won’t prevent you from getting ccp virus, OR from spreading it (so no way it ‘gets us back to normal’), but insist, as their ONLY “selling point” that it will mean your symptoms will be “less severe”, and implying you will be less likely to be hospitalised.
They have been touting this ‘selling point’ without offering any proof, and this article now seems to directly contradict that.
I don’t see how they could ever have such proof; we have known from day one, that SOME who get CCP virus are asymptomatic, and others only have mild symptoms,…so, if someone gets the vax, then gets the virus, and only had mild symptoms, HOW can they prove they had mild symptoms BECAUSE of the vax? They CAN’T.
SO, doesn’t prevent you from getting or spreading, and no proof it lessens severity of symptoms, and more side effects than all previous vaccines put together, even though they are suppressing reports.
Hmm,..I’ll pass.
Kinda makes you wonder why they NEVER report that number doesn’t it. If I was a betting person I would bet that number you are looking for is not favorable to the “everyone must be jabbed” argument therefore they exclude it.
IF the vaccines do what they claim to do, there would be almost NO vaccinated patients in the hospital.
(because supposedly the vaccines are 90% effective at preventing severe disease and hospitalization…)
Vaccination rates in Victoria are now 48.4% fully vaccinated and 78.7% with the first jab. This means that hospitalisation rates for the vaccinated are proportionately larger than that for the unvaccinated.
You may be right, I don’t know. I will bet the mortgage that a percentage of folks receiving the Small Pox vaccination eventually contracted Small Pox. Some even died. Be real cautious about numbers being thrown about as proof. This article obviously touts the case that the vaccine is no good and begs the conclusion you reached that this vaccine actually enhances the disease. Without knowing other extenuating conditions such as age, general health conditions, etc of those involved I really cant go there with you.
I have absolutely no idea what or who to believe. I still remember the war on “Big Tobacco” by Surgeon General Koop under the Regan administration, the first big successful push into personal choice by big government I remember. Then came the total BS of “Second Hand Smoke!!!” and don’t forget Heterosexual AIDS! Best line of all by a Government Official, “Hi, I’m from the Government and I’m here to help.” Run like hell!
No one here is making up the notion of antibody dependent enhancement (ADE). The Emergency Use Authorization documents, themselves, mention concerns about ADE. ADE is the reason no one has been able to get FDA approval for a vaccine for any coronovirus (like MERS or SARS). In the animal studies, when vaccinated animals are exposed to the virus, most of them die. In some studies, ALL of the vaccinated animals died.
But because of the “emergency” Covid19 vaccines did not have to go through the animal testing.
<Isn’t that convenient?>
he announced their quarantine check in pilot program starts tonight – done via smartphone selfie, to confirm place you are an identity.
once phone is alerted – you have 5 minutes to respond. or else – hasnt been defined.
This is how you send troops/units out to test the public for covid, and + test end up in them taking you away with them.
Normalizing it, behind a united enemy (you)
I rather suspect said troops troops may quickly reconsider such efforts in our remote part of the woods. Wolverines…..!!!!!!!
An outrage. It boggles the mind that Australians are complying with this.
Suppose you don’t HAVE a phone? I know there is mandatory voting down under, do they also require every citisen to have a stupid ‘smartphone’?
It’s called a purge..
Pogrom.
If you refer to the decades long attack on ‘white males’, then ya. That is ongoing.
But this.. This is something else. I think this is the culmination of all the post work from M.I.T’s World3 model.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jul/25/gaya-herrington-mit-study-the-limits-to-growth
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-mouse-utopias-1960s-led-grim-predictions-humans-180954423/
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/the-doomed-mouse-utopia-that-inspired-the-rats-of-nimh
Yep.
I just read this very good article about how we got her, where we are now and where it’s all headed.
A Texas doctor on Infowars today said 90% of China virus hospital admissions could be avoided. Sorry, forgot his name.
Peter McCullough, MD, cardiologist and published researcher?
Yes. Start with Quercetin, C, D3, Zinc. Then use ivermectin or hcq, budesonide and z-pac within first five days (and needed).
Ask your doctor if you have any contraindications with any medicines. Tell him you’ve ordered the itemsabove and at least open the conversation. It might open his eyes.
You can order ivm, hcq etc. From Mexico or India.
All day chemist dot com is one such site. (Mostly from India)
If nothing else, liquid ivm from Tractor Supply or a vet.
The damned medical boards in the U.S. are totally out of control. There are work arounds. Find them and protect you and your family.
and friends.
How reliable is IVM out of Mexico? I was looking at some of them posted on the flccc.net website.
Be careful. Just saw the NY Post report two “Ivermectin ” deaths. Which is pretty astonishing and most likely untrue, but also not surprising because . . . Gotta scare the sheep away from the cures and therapeutics. Nobody seems to be dying of Ivermectin in India, El Salvador or Japan, and they aren’t dying of Covid either but most Americans can’t be bothered with world news.
In any event, clearly certain folks in the US now need “Ivermectin” deaths. And Mexico famously ships a lot of drugs laced with fentanyl. The cartels are already allied around human trafficking. Shipping adulterated IVM isn’t a big leap. Is the local already bought off hospital going to ID the death as IVM or as fentynyl?
BTW, I happened to have another reason to be in a Tractor Supply recently. They have signs posted about not for human use and appear to have removed the 1% injectable bottles of it (famously touted by Joseph J Flynn), leaving only boxes of dry stuff to mix into animal feed . . . Probably not a great choice.
So India might be the best option.
I keep think about the 500 million? doses of either IVM or HCQ that President Trump secured from India last April? What happened to it? Is it warehoused somewhere? Just like, waiting on the “oh here’s definitive proof they’ve been lying to you for 14 months and now that you figured it out, we are distributing the cure?”
These days sometimes your thoughts take you down strange ruminations.
I suspect it has been distributed to the Chosen, thats why the party maskless.
I started buying meds from Mexico, but years ago switched to India, much prefer it.
Takes the same time to get thru customs, and lookin recently google has warnings/blocking so hard to find mexican pharmacied,…didn’t USED to be that way.
I get my Rx meds from Jeff, 1-916-269-8485, (tell him Dutchman sent you.)
Been dealing with him for over 10 years, always been satisfied.
In all liklihood the meds you get from CVS, were made in the same factory as the meds you get from him.
Quality first rate, only the price is lower.
Today we just saw *high* ranking military and officials throw FJB under the bus re Afghan.. and tell us the POTUS Trump was being *managed* by his own people… Last week FJB on ABC (I think) threw these same guys under the bus re Afghan.. LIARS every last one of them..
How can thinking people believe one word of what they say re this hoax shamdemic or actually anything??!! We have a ROGUE gov’t for sure!!!
I agree! We are in a dystopian nightmare scenario with the covid 1984 crap. Lord please get us out of this!
The Lord didn’t create this mess. I’m not sure He will feel the need to fix it. Maybe we are supposed to get ourselves out of it. Maybe He’s waiting to see if we will do the heavy lifting for once and not expect or plead for Him to clean up another mess that we made. We are virtually ALL responsible to some degree because we got sloppy and turned our Nation(s) over to immoral, godless fools.
The convenient thing about utter insanity (or modern public policymaking) is that it doesn’t require any logical consistency, or intellectual honesty, whatsoever.
The downside is that you will have to answer for crimes against humanity to a higher power.
What good are the vaccinations if 78% of those fully vaccinated are occupying the hospital?
In this case, “good” is a relative term. If they want you to die, then it is “good” that so many in hospital are vaxxed.
“That’s how you can tell it’s working.”
I think they sold these “vaccines” to people with the understanding they would reduce transmission and lessen the severity should you get it. I think the first contention has been disproved. I am not aware of any proof that the second part is true.
That stat was true, but misleading. They were counting all hospitalizations from the beginning of Covid, including when there were no vaccines and 100% of hospitalizations were unvaccinated. If they only count from when vaccines were readily available that stat completely changes.
For instance, in Scotland on their July 15th report they were saying 89.3% of deaths were unvaccinated. However, they were counting all deaths from December until July 15th. When you compare the July 15th report to the July 8th report you see that 5 unvaccinated died that week while 28 vaccinated died that week. Using those dates, they weren’t lying. 89.3% of deaths were in the unvaccinated since December. However, in that week 84% of deaths were VACCINATED. Every week I download the newest data and it’s always like this. Most of the deaths are in the vaccinated, but they still claim the opposite because they are counting back to December when almost nobody was vaccinated. Most people don’t even realize how they are being manipulated like this.
78% of everyone vaccinated are in the hospital! WOW! Now that’s a data point I hadn’t heard!
I heard that 78% of those hospitalized in one state in Australia (at one point in time) were vaccinated.
But wow!
It’s common for Vic and NSW State Ministers to claim on tv/radio that 90% of the hospitalised are unvaccinated.
From the Scottish and Mass. stats that was always a lie….. those locales were experiencing 75% unvaccinated in hospital.
The Australian media will say nothing, Rita might have a comment tho,
“were experiencing 75% unvaccinated in hospital….”
Typo: vaccinated ….of course.
And where is the stratification as far as age and comorbidities? Funny how that seems to fall through the cracks. If you got a bunch of people retired with some on death’s door making up the majority of truly serious “cases“, that might not necessarily help justify the current overage chalked up to this particular virus strain.
Most of them died last year.
Thank you!
You can’t fix government grade stupid.
Not stupid.
Evil.
Deliberately evil.
Carrying out a deliberately evil worldwide Agenda.
Wish more people could see it already.
edit: Ol’ Scott gets it.
Exactly
Oh yeah! A voice in the wilderness. Thank you, Scott
Don’t forget to include those hospitalized for things like heart problems for ex. who are actually having vaccine related heart issues but not classified as such.
The actual % of hospitalized people who are vaxxed is probably even higher.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2021/09/28/bidens-vax-mandate-to-be-enforced-by-fining-companies-70000-to-700000/
Australian Sky News reporter Sharri Markson launched her book and documentary. She was on Warroom this morning.
The 2014 Ban on funding Gain of Function research was lifted BY OBAMA admin on Jan 9, 2017. Fauci and company were back in business BEFORE Trump took office.
At 44:50 Markson wrongly attributes the ban lift to having occurred during Trump admin.
Pompeo gives a weak response.
please check for yourself.
Ban lift
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2017/01/09/recommended-policy-guidance-potential-pandemic-pathogen-care-and-oversight
Jack Posobiec:
“Even the word ‘unvaccinated’ is a linguistic trap. It is chosen to make the user already concede that vaccination is necessary, and that there is a deficit in anyone who is not.”
Important point. ?
Pure bloods.
Agree. We can call ourselves pure human blood
This echoes what the interview with the anonymous nurse said. Cases are from side effects of vaccine.
The Big Lie:
When one sees hospitalizations btw vaxed and non vaxed percentages are similar to the general population its confusing. The reason is the big lie. That is the use by pharma of the misleading (95% for pfizer ) RELATIVE RISK REDUCTION instead of THE ABSOLUTE RISK REDUCTION. The actual benefit shown by pfizers own test numbers is less than 1% so they use a statistical sleight of hand. Below is a short video which explains how pfizer and the others come up with the high protection numbers. The math is really simple one subtraction and one division.
Here is the formula clearly laid out:
https://www.wallstreetmojo.com/relative-risk-reduction-formula/
“Foley identifies 375 people as hospitalized, 81 people in intensive care and 61 people on a ventilator.”
https://spectatorworld.com/topic/ventilators-arent-panacea-pandemic-coronavirus/
Writing in The Spectator, Dr Matt Strauss stated:
German Pulmonologist Dr Thomas Voshaar, chairman of Association of Pneumatological Clinicssaid:
“Putting someone on a ventilator who is suffering from influenza, pneumonia, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, or any other condition which restricts breathing or affects the lungs, will not alleviate any of those symptoms. In fact, it will almost certainly make it worse, and will kill many of them.
“Intubation tubes are a source of potential a infection known as “ventilator-associated pneumonia”, which studies show affects up to 28% of all people put on ventilators, and kills 20-55% of those infected.
“Mechanical ventilation is also damaging to the physical structure of the lungs, resulting in “ventilator-induced lung injury”, which can dramatically impact quality of life, and even result in death.
“Experts estimate 40-50% of ventilated patients die, regardless of their disease. Around the world, between 66 and 86% of all “Covid patients” put on ventilators died.
“According to the “undercover nurse”, ventilators were being used so improperly in New York, they were destroying patients’ lungs:
“This policy was negligence at best, and potentially deliberate murder at worst. This misuse of ventilators could account for any increase in mortality in 2020/21”
deliberate murder
?
“Let’s call this song exactly what it is” – Aretha Franklin, “Rock Steady”
Summary • COVID-19 is a blood and blood vessel disease. SARS-CoV-2 infects the lining of human blood vessels, causing them to leak into the lungs. • Current treatment protocols (e.g. invasive ventilation) are actively harmful to patients, accelerating oxidative stress and causing severe VILI (ventilator-induced lung injuries). The continued use of ventilators in the absence of any proven medical benefit constitutes mass murder. • Existing countermeasures are inadequate to slow the spread of what is an aerosolized and potentially wastewater-borne virus and constitute a form of medical theater
mass murder
“What it is, what it is” – Aretha Franklin, “Rock Steady”
This has been one of the Big Keys to understanding what is really going on — but too many don’t want to focus on it.
Even better —- is NYC + several other Dem metro areas — shoving the Infected into Nursing Homes per WHO recommendations.
You have to have a special level of Denial to avoid the obvious from this point.
Everyone knows you don’t visit Grandma when you have the Flu. —- They obviously wanted to Spike the Death Count early on – to give the MSM material to use in their massive Psychological Operation —- to justify the Lockdowns (and eventually the Jabs).
But – even though this is PAINFULLY OBVIOUS — they still got away with it…. — People don’t want to know or act.
Malthus + COVID + Vaccines = Deliberate Population Control
Take this medical analysis to its logical conclusion. Have we been set up for a mass extinction event?
“Damn You To Hell, You Will Not Destroy America” – Here Is The ‘Spartacus COVID Letter’ That’s Gone Viral
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/damn-you-hell-you-will-not-destroy-america-here-spartacus-covid-letter-thats-gone-viral
Long, detailed, and just brilliant.
That’s the question. The Ways to accomplish a 80-90% of the Earth’s Population — which they have preached is necessary to save All Life on planet from extinction — are available. They have effective methods that do not require participation from Troops or large mass of foot soldiers to deploy.
The Will — is that really there to carry it out.
I had been waiting for 2020 for some years, because 2020-2040 has been noted in a variety of ways as the period in which “something must be done” to Save Mother Earth.
When 2019 ended with growing hype about a genetically engineered Virus from Wuhan — I knew they were deadly serious. The Will is there…
“61 on a ventilator” That’s murder.
? That’s murder.
“Oh! Oh!” – Aretha Franklin, “Rock Steady”
Can someone in the media please ask one of these politicians during a press conference if they are testing all new covid cases for a specific variant ad what test they are using? If the answer is no, how are they determining which new cases are the result of the “Delta variant” vs a previous variant?
The undercover nurse said NO, her hospital HAD no test to detect if it was the delta variant, and was using the flawed PCR test for all respiratory patients; if it was positive, they were banished to the Covid isolation ward, and into the death spiral.
I know a few individuals who have asked our local Board of Health and a couple local labs that question, and the answer is always that they do not have the capability to determine the genetic sequence in order to identify a particular variant. They are just assuming that it is the variant the CDC or state board tell them is prevalent in the area.
Aussie cops quits his job so he can speak out for other cops, it is about control and not disease. Kudos to him.
Good for him. A hero.
When will this happen in America???
Already is.
Sheriff in King Cty/Seattle quit today.
Look on the Open Prez thread, and this one too.
When will the Marines step up and support LTC Scheller, so many people need support for being brave.
…” Covid’s not about Health, it’s about Control”….
Good. For. Him.
This needed to happen last month. But better late than never.
Hope he gets a LOT of support fr/ other Cops.
bottom right corner statistic on unsolicited adverse event – longer period than the other…
primary safety endpoint met if nothing happens in 7 days and you never contact them again.
I’m not unvaccinated.
It’s just that my vaccine status is “undocumented”.
We can play the same sophomoric word games that the Left does.
😉
I identify as vaccinated.
Trust in the medical profession is DEAD.
trust in the MegaHospitals is lost.
private practices – and end plastic.
United Airlines ready to fire 600 employees who refused to get vaccinated.
https://therightscoop.com/united-airlines-to-fire-600-employees-who-refused-to-get-vaccinated/
NBA star gives fantastic response when asked why he’s hesitant to get the vaccine.
https://therightscoop.com/watch-nba-star-gets-fantastic-response-when-asked-why-hes-hesitant-to-get-the-vaccine/
That’s disgusting!
brilliant move by Soros. if only he could get the narrative of Americans calling Haitians monkeys going…
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When the employer comes to you & says that it is a mandated shot for your job, ask them to provide the actual OSHA regulation that says this….
it does not exist.
OSHA was told that it was simply told to develop the rule. It has not been done, & will not be done for YEARS…
Here’s the short twit vid of the 78% section, if you want to share it around
Been saying for months the Jabs don’t work and are dangerous. Preventive Protocols + Therapeutics if Infected! The odds are way in your favor.
Stop pushing the Jabs!
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Something else seems very off. The numbers of people hospitalized versus cases.
This is particularly shocking because according to latest information – only 42% of Australians are fully vaccinated and yet almost 80% hospitalized are fully vaccinated. This should send off alarm bells around the world but of course it will be completely ignored.
Article shows how the Left has been twisting this kind of news since Israel, etc.
Basically, It’s a GOOD thing there are more vaxed th/ unvaxed in hosp., because that just means there are more vaxed people in the country.
So, continue to use a vax that
1) has possible side effects for you and
2) does not protect you from Covid.
It’s all good!
The health bureaucracies in Europe, Israel and the United States noticed that people with the vaccine were getting the Delta variant. They assumed that the vaccine was only lasting about 6 months, so they started recommending third jabs. Meanwhile, they were ignoring the other possibility, that the Delta variant had evolved into a form which gets around the vaccine.
The Israelis are now taking their third jabs with no fall in the number of infections or deaths, so their health bureaucracy is recommending a fourth jab. The United States isn’t the only country with a brain-dead health bureaucracy!
https://www.cloverbiopharma.com/upload/pdf/SPECTRA-Data-Presentation_2021.09.22_FINAL_EN.pdf
https://www.cloverbiopharma.com/technology/science.html
“This phase 1 trial tests the resultant SCB-2019 vaccine with and without AS03 or SpG/Alum adjuvants. Rate of adverse effects was lower than similar vaccines, and the magnitude of the immune response appears to be similar to that of the (right here –>) mRNA-based ( <—- Yes right there, shows DIFFERENT) vaccines with established efficacy”
https://www.acc.org/latest-in-cardiology/journal-scans/2021/02/08/17/44/safety-and-immunogenicity-of-strimer
Uh,…definetly not Einstiens, or they would know doing the same thing, over and over while expecting different results is definition of INSANITY.
Actually, I think its more along the lines of,..
Fanatasism, which consists of redoubling your effort, while forgetting your aim.
Those that did the experimental gene therapy will always try to rationalize their decision and blaming others who dissent. Human nature. Their problems are just beginning. Many of our friends who were jabbed are already experiencing physical issues from them. The excess spike proteins increase pressure on any existing weaknesses as they reduce the body’s natural immune system for months and perhaps years. These folks will never take a booster jab. Even more physicians are starting to recognize what is happening. When the killer T-cells are reduced and restricted from doing their jobs of killing pathogens – you get what you now see happening. Reduced T-cell effectiveness – more cancer, more organ failure, more cardiac issues, etc.
The jabs are the way they are keeping the mutating virus alive. The problems they are running into is natural herd immunity is kicking in and the mutants do not have enough unaffected people to target. So expect something different to happen because evil doesn’t sleep.
Nearly the same in Wales.
But the BBC reports it the other way around:
….” A third of people with confirmed Covid cases in Wales in the past week were unvaccinated, according to new figures released by Public Health Wales.”….. (means 2/3 are vaxed)
Then further down in article it says :
….” The figures also showed 99% of people who tested positive for Covid in the past week in Wales were under 60. Of these, 37% were unvaccinated.
Nearly 13% of hospital patients with confirmed Covid were unvaccinated.”……
So it sounds like the original 2/3 is actually larger and they’re probably not including “partially vaxed” in the 2/3.
Cuz 13% of 100 ain’t 1/3.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-58680204
For people of a certain age, this whole dystopia experience makes you look at the past with a very different lens. And start to really wonder.
Once upon a time, not that long ago, the US elected a President who spoke against communism/socialism, loved America, and wanted to end a decades long war (the Cold War, by actually winning it finally). He had a RINO globalist Vice President. On his watch, Anthony Fauci was in charge of NIAID, and a new and deadly disease spread across the country and the world. The disease, we were told, leapt from an animal species to human beings in a country where people ate disgusting things that were sold in markets and that they should never have been eating. The Republican president was roundly reviled as an anti-gay bigot who should catch most of the blame for a wholly inadequate response to the disease. People would choke up in anger at the mere mention of his name.
Sound familiar?
Just was putting that together with with an article Dr. Malone tweeted out pinning the origin of RSV, which kills 60,000 infants around the world each year, on polio virus vaccine experiments done just outside Washington DC using monkey kidneys, which generated a zoological leap to an infected lab worker. Add that to Fauci recently talking about spending a lot of time during the AIDS epidemic haunting guy bath houses.
So,, monkeys (alleged natural wild origin of AIDS), disease, Fauci, coincidental new disease spread . . . Maybe what what he was really doing in the bathhouse wasn’t trying to find the disease, but rather checking on how the experiment was coming along??
Yeah, conspiracy theories and all that, but I needed some new ones because all my old ones came true.
Well, I have my own thoughts on what Anthony was doing, ‘hanging around’ gay bath houses, …and he DOES look somewhat like a monkey, now that you mention it,…
an evil little organ grinder monkey.
Your last sentence is worthy of a bumper sticker and much more . GREAT line!!!
The only means they have for detecting COVID is the PCR test. The inventor of this test has said not to use it for testing for COVID therefore it would appear that this statement “Health Minister Foley announced 867 new COVID cases recorded yesterday” is without meaning. Since the 867 new cases could simply be a flu virus or some portion of a yet to be unidentified virus being treated as though it were COVID.
In short, this is statistics based on an assumption.
Bologna in produces Bologna out.
I can’t stand to listen to the local news very often in Idaho. Most of it is worse than CNN. But last I heard our miserable excuse for a governor is still doubling down as in: “The hospitals are being overrun with covid cases and the vast majority are the unvaccinated.”
Mr. Little please. You are embarrassing yourself.
I had to look that up. Governor Little? For real. Chicken little running around saying the sky is falling. Babylon Bee here we come.
Hundreds join Matt Walsh to demand parental rights in Loudoun County. Let that sink in. Parents in America are now having to demand rights that are their rights are increasingly undermined on multiple fronts.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/matt-walsh-rally-loudoun-lcps
It appears that in Israel, the 3rd and 4th booster shots are losing efficacy a lot faster than the first two doses. Regarding the vaccinated, a lot of them watch the mainstream media and they are easily influenced. It’s not really their fault given that they’ve all been lied to.
Good news here in WA State: my nurse daughter that was getting fired got lucky; her religious exemption has been approved. From talking to her I gather that many of her coworkers are much more fearful of the vaccines than they are of Covid, not to mention that they don’t trust this particular vaccine at all.
I’m seeing many comments from those who are being led down the road of obfuscation again. Here’s the one thing that matters:
Mandates are wrong. They are just wrong.
For purposes of the decision of right or wrong regarding mandating jabs, diapers, phobic distancing, or any other decree I don’t care if Science does or doesn’t prove that anything works. It’s still wrong no matter what.
How can I proclaim that? Look around people!! What happens when a society relinquishes freedoms out of fear, because there is a “crisis”? This is not a hard question to answer. Look around people.
This discussion board should be filled with ideas of how to reclaim civilization.