A very interesting internal dynamic amid U.S. institutions and their media PR networks solidifies around a lengthy Washington Post report about the day Kabul fell to the Taliban. It’s not the story per se’ that provides the clarity, although the details are interesting; but rather the intent of the narrative around the story putting accountability for the lack of Kabul security upon the Pentagon.
Remember, Team #1 (State Dept./CIA) use CNN and the Washington Post; while Team #2 (White House, Pentagon, NSC) do not.
The internal battle amid U.S. government institutions, two teams, in the Afghanistan-crisis blame game, are reflected by this organizational relationship between two U.S. Govt. factions and their media allies. The overarching problem in this part of the blame game is the security situation in Kabul, specifically the lack of security which led to a terrorist attack that killed 13 American service members at the Kabul airport and wounded hundreds more.
According to the Washington Post outline, the Taliban offered to stay out of the capital city until the U.S. military had departed; however, during an in-person meeting between the head of the Taliban, Abdul Ghani Baradar, and U.S. Central Command Commander, Kenneth F McKenzie, the U.S. general told the Taliban to take the city but leave them the airport.
(WaPo) – […] In a hastily arranged in-person meeting, senior U.S. military leaders in Doha — including McKenzie, the commander of U.S. Central Command — spoke with Abdul Ghani Baradar. “We have a problem,” Baradar said, according to the U.S. official. “We have two options to deal with it: You [the United States military] take responsibility for securing Kabul or you have to allow us to do it.”
Throughout the day, Biden had remained resolute in his decision to withdraw all American troops from Afghanistan. The collapse of the Afghan government hadn’t changed his mind. McKenzie, aware of those orders, told Baradar that the U.S. mission was only to evacuate American citizens, Afghan allies and others at risk. The United States, he told Baradar, needed the airport to do that.
On the spot, an understanding was reached, according to two other U.S. officials: The United States could have the airport until Aug. 31. But the Taliban would control the city. (read more)
To be fair to General McKenzie, at the time of the conversation the Afghanistan government had collapsed.
Absent the Afghan army in place, if McKenzie decided to take responsibility to secure the entire city of Kabul, he would have needed to ask the White House for a lot more U.S. troops; or attempt to personally take charge of the sketchy Afghan army. A very tall, perhaps impossible, order. McKenzie decided to let the Taliban take the city.
Ken McKenzie ain’t no Doug MacArthur.
I’m sure this inflection point, and this specific moment of extreme consequence, will loom over the head of General McKenzie for the rest of his life.
However, putting aside the very interesting details of those hours for a moment, what we can see through the prism of the narrative -as engineered by the Washington Post on behalf of their supportive institution (U.S. intel)- is the deflection of blame onto the White House via the Pentagon, specifically CentCom commander Ken McKenzie.
The internal dynamic of the two competing teams inside our dysfunctional government is really quite remarkable to watch play out. ♦Team One consists of the U.S. State Dept (DoS) and the CIA (U.S. Intel). ♦Team Two consists of the White House, Pentagon and National Security Council. Team One uses CNN, CNNi and The Washington Post. Team Two use the traditional alphabets (ABC, CBS, NBC) and NYT/Politico.
Both teams created the mess in Afghanistan on behalf of their constituencies ($). Both teams are looking to avoid scrutiny and place responsibility at the feet of the other team.
In this Washington Post example, the CIA/DoS are blaming Ken McKenzie (the Pentagon), and by extension blaming the White House.
Additionally interesting is the seemingly sympathetic narrative from CNN and WaPo toward the position of the Taliban. Narrated as if they are a misunderstood band of tribal troublemakers who now have this large responsibility to run an entire nation. When you recognize how the State Dept and Intel community operate, you can see exactly where this type of narrative is heading….
It’s like we said earlier, Team One is in alignment with the United Nations objective and now conveying emotional sympathies. Yup, the Taliban are headed toward full legitimate recognition by the U.N. with the ‘we are the world‘ State Department crew leading the way.
All the people in your posted photograph plus Milley are equally culpable and should be removed from office.
Agree, and I am so pissed off right now I can hardly be civil.
For all of our Perfumed, Princess, Pentagon, Politicians, and their suggested reading BS, they sure didn’t learn shit from history themselves, did they?
thats because they have rewritten history. They are all studying up on the politics of critical race, unicorns, inclusiveness, how to decorate the army barracks to keep the women and gays happy…you know, all the really important stuff.
Don’t forget about combat maternity wear
While these individual segments of the US Government are all to blame for this Afghanistan disaster, none of their failures were by accident. Not saying the individual players were all read in to the plan, but not a chance this ridiculous embassasment was not intended. Please, how hard is it to see the long range consequences do not align perfectly with the objectives of Odumbo’s 3rd term. He couldn’t be spoon feeding his Muslim pals any more assets in their (& his) quest to destroy Israel and destabilize the Middle East if he tried. How is him providing military equipment and cash to these enemies of these US any different than his apology tour years ago? PDT was crushing these animals with sanctions now Odumbo is paying them back
I agree as far as it all being intentional, but wonder whether giving Obama an ideological purpose is too generous. There’s always the possibility he was so confident after the election, he just sold all of those armaments to the highest bidder and pocketed the $
Guess McKenzie is the “fall guy.”
lulz and y’all thought it was gonna be Biden…
They need him around to be the dish rag mopping up more blame and risk before he is tossed in the trash. I give that at least another year of chaos they need to offload on the corpse.
I wonder if this is because the Ho continues to make mistake after mistake, laughing everytime she does or doesn’t open her mouth. She & Ovomit are testimonials to marijuana & other illicit drugs do irreversible brain damage, especially cognitive abilities. And she is NOT winning people’s trust, & she still is not likeable to even the fauning media.
There is no repair for the ignorance of the Cackling Ho. She’s as mentally deficit as the Demented Fraud. She was chosen for her ignorance so that when the time comes, the media can do a wall around her as the 1st female president of color. Anyone who then dares to call her out will be immediately labeled as a bigot, racist or anti-women
they could call me a xenophobe as I refuse to accept a NON citizen and CERTAINLY NON NBC as POTUS ever
..and yet many here give Ozero a genius level of planning skills and superhuman ability to organize….he has never demonstrated any personal ability beyond being a LAZY, mediocre puppet of the REAL power brokers
So true. They won’t be finished with Joe until the side effects of the vaccine are known and he can shoulder the blame for that too. Then, he’ll suffer an unfortunate “suicide”.
An old saying but true “the shit always filters down”
After Biden wrecks the car, he tosses the keys to McKenzie and walks away, and we blame McKenzie?
He looks the part. Bleary eyed bureaucrat in camo not a steely eyed, fear inducing mighty warrior.
He`ll be made to fall on his sword.
Or in his case his pen.
McKenzie suddenly finding himself in a bad position was a result of poor planning and lack of contingencies. Somebody had to approve the Taliban takeover.
A light caning on the soles of the feet followed by a book deal and a job at CNN.
You left off two words “and hung.” /s After a fair trial of course.
For future reference curtains are hung. Traitors are hanged ☺
It SHOULD be curtains for him and all his superiors right up to the Incompetent in Chief.
I don’t care how they do it – I just want it done.
I keep looking at the photo and can’t quite believe its a real photo of a western government press conference.
Gods its depressing to see such imagery as normal.
Milley is too valuable to the Marxists. He’s a true believer in white extremism, CRT, paying for sex change surgery from the military budget, etc. He’s be too hard to replace.
There are 2,000 Afghans at Ft. McCoy in Wisconsin, and not a single one of them is a Special Immigrant Visa holder, according to a congressman who toured the base Friday and said he was dismayed by what he heard.
Rep. Tom Tiffany also said the Afghans are free to walk away from the base at any time — and some already have done so, embedding in American communities. The personnel at the base can try to “discourage” them, but if they want to leave, they have already been paroled into the county and there is no way to block them, the Republican congressman told The Washington Times.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/aug/28/feds-cant-keep-afghans-escaping-us-bases-they-can-/
Wait till they start chopping off Americans’ heads on the local State House steps or start hurling hand grenades inside shopping malls during Christmas time. Then, maybe you’ll see some feckless politicos start doing their jobs.
It won’t be long and Congress and DOJ makes special rules laws and prison guidelines for protecting these invaders
Sharia laws nationwide.
I, for one dhimmi, welcome our future overlords. /s
I have doubts that ANY politician will “do his job”.
My definition of their job is spelled out in the US Constitution.
Their definition is “keep my job at all costs”.
Sellout whores, indeed.
When the winds of war change direction, they will blow in kind (filthy pun intended).
May they all rot in hell.
ps- Sundance, you did a great service with your explanation of the fourth estate.
I though I grasped the severity, but now I know I did not.
Thank you for giving me more reason to despise what has become of the United States of America’s government.
“May they all rot in Hell.”
IThey will if they don’t wake up and repent.
Many, if not most, won’t do either.
They’ve made their pact with Satan for Earthly power and wealth.
If by “feckless politicos doing their jobs” you mean carving hunks out of the Constitution, starting with the First, Second, and Fourth Amendments, you are probably right on the money.
If its like Europe you will find the laws are made against you for noticing their crimes and behaviour.
nah, feckless pols will remain feckless. Being feckless IS their job when itcomes to us.
One has to believe this is no mistake.
They want chaos that any kind of terrorism will create.
To me the goal seems to be Marshall Law.
But then again, whaddoIknow?
Maybe just enough to keep you alive, and your loved ones out of harm’s way.
Harm IS coming.
CDC ramping up the gun issue ….
Martial law is an interesting idea… The question is who will enforce it? Milley and his woke generals?
Trump was clearly not willing to even use National Guards according to his and Obama’s executive orders to do a recount in AZ, GA, WI, MI and PA due to “foreign influence.”
The President is not in charge. The machine doesn’t answer to him. We have a full-blown constitutional crisis with an unelected senile puppet installed as faux POTUS and rogue, illegitimate government.
I, for one, do believe that this is no mistake.
Nationwide martial law is certainly one of the goals.
Hence, defunding local police in the effort to shift the responsibility of all law enforcement to the Federal government.
The state department sent out blanket emails that anyone could print off that said visa on top of it.
Now you can imagine this was shared with hundreds of thousands of people who will eventually cut heads off (work place violence) and San Bernardino scenes will be in our future while they continue taking our constitutional freedoms.
All military bases are now being used just like southern Texas is for commercial airlines to come in and load up for distribution thru out this country
I guess nobody was doing security checks before they were allowed to board the aircraft.
I wonder if any of them will run against Ilian Omar for Congress??
Unable to leave with being vaxed.. Sorry, this cannot be true (sarc). I’ll be 79 in a couple of weeks, yes I’m a geezer, and this is not the good ole USA any longer… my poor grand kids (insert sad face emoji)..
But, but, but Biden won Wisconsin. How is that possible?
Thousands of them to be scattered across our land.
Ready to inflict their backward culture and covid upon communites at our expense, both social and economic.
Way back when the Castro regime loaded up the Cuban lift with criminals, mentally ill and other undesirables they were sent to Camp McCoy. They also walked away from the Camp, people in that area never locked the doors back then until they started coming home to find uninvited visitors in their homes. The Feds do not care about safety and well being of United States Citizens.
There will be back and forth finger-pointing for months with SOMEONE ultimately being paid off as the “scape goat” but good GOD…NEVER JoeBama or certain Generals!! The whole system is pathetic!!
This is just another distraction from a billion dollar illegal arms deal our rogue Fourth Branch made with the enemy.
800 billion per the last report i read, afghan army is now #27 ranked worldwide.
Obama vs Clinton. Billionaire oligarchs vs True Believers.
Left vs Left.
And the various bureaucracies of the government are just part of that.
It’s the People’s Front of Judea versus the Judean People’s Front!
Thank you, sundance! Thank you.
A few days ago, a marine LTC basically alluded to this very issue. The lack of intestinal fortitude in the chain of command. While the central command commander, bears some responsibility. Ultimately however the bigger decisions came from higher up, that is from the fake president, fake secdef and the gutless chairman of the joint chiefs. The LTC was absolutely spot on, the chain of command, is both cowardly and incompetent.
To that LTC, for his bravery, this song by Katie Melua – Thank you stars -Him and all patriots, soldiers, families, we honor your selfless and honest sacrifice for the TRUTH.
USMC now in progress of making the guy out to be suffering a mental health episode. Watch. Military not going to let this guy derail what’s been going on without a fight. Perhaps that latest video he did should have waited until he was free and clear. Nonetheless, he’s still a hero.
They’re probably afraid that there are a lot of other officers who feel the same way, and wonder whether even though the officers won’t come out in public the way this one did, will there be other ways of letting the public know how they feel. Leaks can be traced, of course, but the fact that one’s subordinates don’t trust the command leads to mutual distrust.
….and I’d add treasonous as well.
I assure you Biden was not really involved in this decision. Everything was decided by the national security establishment types. It was their call to sell billion dollars worth of U.S. equipment to America’s enemy. Biden is a puppet, a figurehead, who couldn’t find his way back to Oval Office if not for his staffers, Harris or SS agents walking in front of him. At best, he was promised a cut.
Yeah, Biden is a total puppet–too senile for anything. That’s the way the people who control the US from behind the scenes wanted it. The whole reason they spent 24/7 attacking Trump is because he refused to be their puppet, and that’s why they moved heaven and earth to steal the election from him. They wanted to put in an obedient puppet, so they could move forward with their hidden agenda.
Team #1 vs. Team #2
DOJ usually bats for the White House team, right?
They cross-dress.
After reading Sundance’s expose of Team 1 and Team 2, I am thinking the greatest threat is from Team 1 and the CIA/IC. The military still has some honest members (see the LTC that demanded accountability and then resigned) and the horrible leadership will get some pushback. As for the DOS/CIA, no one ever does the right thing, and there is no oversight or controlling authority, and there are no honest whistleblowers. They lie to congress, to us, and to the world. I think it will be easier to clean house at the pentagon than the DOS/CIA/IC.
A good house keeping start is a certain eavesdropping datafarm in Bluffdale UT.
Correct! Spot on.
to TexSwede- oversight/controlling authority is UN, yes?
The CIA’s newsletter that we laughingly call “the Washington Post” should take the larger view:
There’s enough blame to go around for ALL these corrupt, scheming, useless, un-American dirtbag parasite agencies and institutions of the Perma-Blob. They all suck, from stem to stern and top to bottom.
Be generous, WaPo, like me!
ps; you suck too.
WashPost AKA Wash COMPOST has been a propaganda rag for a long time
The scapegoats are being assembled. Each part of the Deep State, involved, will have to contribute a victim.
The DoD goat has been selected.
Now it remains to be seen whom the State Department and INTEL selects as their goats.
ostensibly it can only be a goat that already has pension and book deals. Wouldn’t want them spilling the beans or getting into some sort of “accident.”
But what is the reason for this? A continuation of the stories from yesterday that US citizens and Christian Afghans are handed over to the Talibans:
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/08/these_reports_out_of_kabul_are_too_awful_to_believe.html
“American troops are due to leave Afghanistan on Tuesday, even though uncounted Americans are stuck in the country. And by stuck, it appears that our American government is deliberately denying them access to Kabul airport. This isn’t a wild rumor. “
Twofer, blame the Presidency and put pressure to get rid of a non-wokeist USMC General, whose, shock horror, had combat experience! What a mean man, probably a white supremacist as well. Wonder how many diversity boxes his replacement will tick.
thats a good point – if this General wasn’t attending Obama’s bday bash or some other fundraiser cocktail party, he should have known it was coming.
Understanding all of this is great and certainly someone with the intellect capacity should detail and retain all this.
But knowing about team 1 and team 2 and which media outlet works for which makes for compelling conversation.
How does this help us though or is really too late ?
So then we back to studying their tactics?
” It’s not the story per se’ that provides the clarity, although the details are interesting; but rather the intent of the narrative around the story putting accountability for the lack of Kabul security upon the Pentagon.
Remember, Team #1 (State Dept./CIA) use CNN and the Washington Post; while Team #2 (White House, Pentagon, NSC) do not.”
I am highly confident that if I could just get representatives of the White House, the Pentagon, the Dept of State and the CIA in a room together, we could amicably hash all this out, and I could get them all to agree to blame this Clusterfark of the Ages on the Dept. of Agriculture. That would be Trump’s Dept of Agriculture, of course.
In all candor, with a yearly budget of a staggering $750 Billion (more than the next 5 or 6 nations on the planet combined), I think the DOD could be expected to provide security in Kabul. It’s not like the DOD has its hands full, or ever has, providing security at our Southey Boarder which is under invasion by millions.
This whole absurd Great Islamic Society Nation Building, including the Mighty Afghan Army and winning hearts-and-minds, has been the DOD’s baby for over 19 years. They conceived it, the birthed it, they raised it and they own it.
McKenzie should be the guest of honor at a Special Courts Martial proceeding.He should not be let off the hook- he wants the rank and title its his baby. Taliban cannot run the country. They are not a homogeneous fighting force let alone a capable political party. There are something like 4 dozen tribes with ever shifting alliances. We couldn’t unite them against the Soviets without a literal goat screw . Yes they screw goats and little boys.Time to come home.
Team one and team two know precisely who does what, when, where and why. They work in unison. Then in order to obfuscate fault or blame when something goes wrong we have these two teams play the bamboozle the sheeple symphony.
That piece of shit Miley needs to go!!!!!!!
Why enlist any longer? The US military is the muscle for the communists, it is ran by only the yes of the yes people, it is highly overrated, it will crap on you in a second, and when it’s done with you you are less than yesterday’s news.
White middle class American must stop sending their sons off to this horsepuckey.
Even the so-called “good ones” such as Flynn ain’t worth a flip. There are no more Pattons, Forrests, Lees, nor Washingtons in these ranks any longer.
Agreed. And if you are a mid-ranking military guy ascending ranks over your career who has actually seen combat and doesn’t go to the DC cocktail parties, you should be resigning ASAP – you have to KNOW you’ll be on the shortlist for taking the fall in the next screw up, whether it had anything to do with you or not.
And that is exactly what they want to happen. No more Whites.
I like your list of the “good” military leaders, especially Patton who didn’t take crap (excuse the language) from anyone.
Does this mean the most powerful Nation on earth just unconditionally surrendered to a bunch of goat herders?
Look, those goat herders are the only ones not wearing masks in the photos above.
Nuts I know, but I almost have more respect for the Taliban.
The next U.S. involved conflict will be interesting. How many guarded the U.S.Capital 20,000 or so from American citizens.?
26K!
Covid is afraid to infect them.
They probably have herd immunity for the Faux-Xi virus, if so they can not spread or catch it.
Nothing missing but a Battleship to sign the surrender documents on.
Not missing a BB.
They could still set the Ho, on MO (BB 63)… it’s in Pearl Harbor.
It certainly appears that way. How embarrassing.
Pretty much. In the long run, as enemies, those goat herders dont represent the most serious threat to The Most Powerful Nation on Earth(tm).
The Most Powerful Nation on Earth(tm) has been focused on preparing to confront a far more dangerous enemy.
Us.
I care less who gets the blame. It is the incompetent decisions having grave results I care about. Does it matter who gets the blame? It matters who is making asinine decisions not being replaced rather than blamed.
BURN his ass…
Destroy him.
Fire him,
Convict him,
HE CAUSED young 20 YO’s to lose their lives and destroy their families and those about to be born.
HE DESERVES to be court-martialed and NEVER SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY!!!!!!!
Send his ass to GITMO….
IF Congress let’s this go, VOTE THEM OUT.
ALL NEED TO GO ANYWAY. Afghan war and the destruction, death, maiming of OUR OWN along with our tax payer $$ wasted and THEY’VE ALL SAT THERE (at least 95% of them) THE ENTIRE 20Y.
VOTE CONGRESS OUT. ALL, dems, republicans and indy’s….
why go after him on the say so of the WaPo?
Exactly.
They are seeking to lead us around by the nose.
I refuse to join their mad braying masses blindly hating at their direction so we don’t see their own culpability and intentions and the bigger picture.
Frag everyone of them, then no further mistakes can be made. Hopefully the Pineapple Express will accept that mission.
After someone publishes the book “Profiles in Cowardice” the next one published should be “Profiles in Ineptitude.” Of course, TRIC (The Resident in Chief), will have chapters dedicated to him in both books.
Profiles in Treason
by J&H Biden
Well at least he a tidy chappie. I believe from what I’ve read he made all his troops stay to clean up the buildings for the new tenants. The more I read, the sicker I feel.
Meanwhile:
Chase Bank Cancels General Mike Flynn’s Credit Cards
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/chase-bank-cancels-general-mike-flynns-credit-cards
Chase Bank has canceled General Mike Flynn’s personal credit card, citing “possible reputational risk to our company.”
But it’s not a reputational risk to cancel cards arbitrarily because you disagree with the person?
Has Michael Flynn *himself* confirmed that’s his legit TG acct? As in, on video or otherwise verified?
Cuz that letter looks an awful lot like this one (and why is the “Flynn” letter a picture of a screen, you may ask…):
Fellow Patriots. DO NOT ALLOW YOUR CHILDREN to enter the military.
DO NOT recommend, suggest, support such a decision.
THEY WILL BE SACRIFICED goats…..
THEY WILL BE MURDERED, tortured, maimed and NOBODY on Capitol Hill, the WH, the Pentagon, St Dept, NSA, CIA will give one damn and the potus in office at that time will be checking their watch when their dead, murdered bodies are unloaded from an aircraft…….as IF THEY ARE WASTING THEIR DAMN PRECIOUS Sunday afternoon.
DO NOT allow those you love to join THIS military…
I’m smelling more pallets of cash (and outgoing pallets of opium).
Be design, you think. WHY were the Americans LEFT and not the Afghans???
IF 170,000 Afghans can be airlifted, why couldn’t ALL Americans?
Joe and the entire crowd are running a dangerous game here. This doesn’t end well and then what’s next? Who steps up next with demands? Hostages? And WHEN do we end up in war???????? Yet, another damn war?????? A war that WON’T be won, since we haven’t won 1 in 70 years???????
I’ve seen suggestions that the Taliban offered safe passage to the remaining Americans in exchange for releasing frozen Afghanistan funds.
I suspect that will be a mere starting point in the upcoming hostage crisis negotiations, and that, as Sundance noted, full UN recognition will be established.
Some form of ongoing tribute in the form of foreign aid is to be expected. Team Zero loves to humiliate America.
They need a scapegoat… They tried to pin it on Trump, but nobody was really buying it. It’s quite transparent, isn’t it?
fuster cluck from the top down.
It’s like watching Sauron and Saruman slug it out. Too bad we can’t let them fight each other and leave us alone, but of course they hate us more than each other.
“Take the city…leave the airport” sounds like “Take the gun…leave the cannoli”
“Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.”
Guns can easily be found, but good cannoli?
That came to mind as soon as I read it.
A report of Lunchbucket Joe’s meeting the families states he spent a generous 2 minutes with the pregnant widow of Rylee McCollum. He trotted out the corpse of a story about his noncombat son’s demise because of course he did. He’s an all about me sort of guy. I’m gratified to report the rest of the family wouldn’t meet with him. Good for them. God please bless them in their grief.
I don’t know, MacArthur let the Japanese have Manilla without a fight. He didn’t seem to do much before that as the Philippines were over run. Except for fighting after falling back to a corner, there are a lot of similarities between the two falls.
Though I really don’t want any idiots promising that they will be back.
I forgot, we left a lot of citizens behind then too.
True but the odds were different – you had the thus far victorious Japanese Imperial Army on the one hand and now we have the TallyBan on the other …. hardly a fair comparison … humiliating and embarrassing to say the least
By design.. ?
They got their time and mileage out of the chunk of rock, steel and concrete called Corregidor, which fell 6 May 1942.
MacArthur big fubar was on Dec 8, didn’t use his planes at all, much less properly, and then lost most them at lunch.
MacArthur declared Manila an open city on December 25, 1941 and removed the Commonwealth government to Corregidor. The Japanese occupied Manila on January 2, 1942
My F-i-L got the long walk from Bataan.
Corregidor, the fortress island in Manila Bay, held out for 5 MONTHS on limited food and ammunition…NOT without a fight…Mac was ORDERED to evacuate by FDR so a 4 star Gen was not captured by the Empire of Japan when it fell…ALL facts readily available in ANY reputable history tome
I did say they fought after backing into a corner. That includes the Bataan area, not just Corregidor. Much more fighting in Bataan.
As said above, Mac failed to defend right after Pearl Harbor. Let the Japs wipe out his air force. We sacked the leaders of Pearl for that. It is actually worse. Mac refused to attack the Japs. Weather prevented them from coordinating with the attack on Pearl. But no weather was stopping flights from Philippines. And we had an air force officer pleading to go after those jap airbases.
We knew an attack was coming. We even secretly reinforced Wake (Enterprise) and were trying to secretly reinforce Midway (Lexington). This makes MacArthur’s failure in Philippines worse. The attack, that we were expecting had happened and it was not some little outpost further west, it was Pearl. We were at war, but MacArthur, who had advance warnings of possible hostilities, and even time to make a difference after those attacks happened, didn’t.
I heartily suggest you read those tomes. But don’t discard the ones you find unpleasant.
I have found hagiographies of Mac and damnations. But I have yet to find real reasons for his failures. Just like we will not get the truth about Wuhan from China. Or admissions of errors from the present administration.
These Commie Cretin factions within the federal government fighting one another sure has put the USA in great danger. All by design, I know.
Not enough people know this.
And the sewer sludge Republicans are complicit.
republicans LOVE war..their contact, buddy biz make mega $$ which they share from military contracts…dems love it too, but republicans lead the charge….never met a war they didn’t like….
True
If enough people know this then what?
Good question.. then what
I don’t know. Maybe if more people have their eyes opened, the easier it will be to get people involved, people will be more willing to be active, at state levels to get rid of the Commies and their dictates, state by state to be able to throw sand in the federal government machinery.
I like the old Taliban look. The new look, which we have seen these past few days, appears to be more “American” in clothing. Nothing beats a sharp dresser, ask General Milley who brought back that great WWII look in uniforms.
Symbolism over substance wins every time in the minds of those who have made their careers living in Washington, DC.
Do you really expect anyone in Washington, DC to be held accountable for this disaster? When was the last time they turned on their own? Maybe some low hanging fruit type person or persons may take a fall, a small fall like Clinesmith.
You need to visit the local country clubs to get the “skinny” on what’s happening with the chosen ones.
Better yet, get an invite to Obama’s next party and chit chat with him and his special people, that will most certainly give you the “inside track” we all seek.
I suggest you put all your efforts into guaranteeing our next national election is as honest as possible for starters. Then work on decentralizing our government away from Washington , DC. Bet me John Durham hasn’t had dinner with Judge Sullivan!
Birds of a feather flock together, right?
This is the very same DC Beltway eye-candy method as when Clinton’s crew treated Somalian thug-leader Mo Aideed (c.1993) as a legitimate foreign head-of-state, granting him unearned, international street-cred. That way, it wasn’t so obvious to CNN viewers that the Administration were negotiating with terrorists; in fact they were being jerked around by terrorists, while attempting to manage the optics of the problem . And good men died on the ground, attempting to sort it all out; a.k.a. Blackhawk Down.
Sure glad we learned those lessons/sarc. (Expletive) liberals.
How does that work? After Biden pulls out all American troops and abandons the Afghan Army in the field denying them logistical support and air cover, General McKenzie is blamed for surveying the utter devastation created by Biden and calling the baby ugly?
So what if Biden is responsible?
Biden is responsible then what?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9938569/British-Afghan-shot-dead-troops-opened-fire-panic-ISIS-suicide-bomb.html
The Biden administration is now blaming the Brits for the drone attack near the Abbey Gate that killed the Afghan family!
The US supposedly wanted to close the Abbey Gate, but the UK wanted it open because that’s where their evacuees were going.
Harry Truman: “The buck stops here.”
Bill Clinton: “The buck never got here!”
Joe Biden: “I like turtles.”
“Quit fondling the small turtles Joe”
Oh, I missed something many may find important from my recent post: “Islam is a religion of peace!” Obama loves the sounds of muslims being called to prostrate themselves five times daily…if only he could be king!
Can’t be a king without your warriors ridding all those who would deny you such, right? They would need weapons to achieve such. 82 billion dollars worth of current American gear would go a long way to achieve that goal.
And finally, do you like the “white flag with black letters” of the Taliban? Do you like the old flag of ISIS where it is black with white letters? Is there a connection here?
Remember, Islam is a religion of peace, especially with American weaponry…thank you Obama/Biden!
Don’t forget to thank George “Islam is Love, not Hate” Bush.
Black flag with chicken tracks= battle flag
White flag with chicken tracks = symbol of dominance and victory
I think this is the defining moment that most Americans, even centrist Democrats, realize that we are in decline. Those of us on the political right need to make a decision on what’s more important to us, maintaining super-power status, or re-centering our government and society on founding principles, with 200 years of lessons learned in mind. Doing the latter might mean fundamentally collapsing our federal government, likely through non-violent economic means, to make it submit. We can else control the pain on our terms, or we can let this transformative process continue and have no control at all.
We have been subverted.
Under common law Biden must be found innocent as he is as bereft of cognitive ability as an infant or farm animal.
The locals, I presume Taliban, find other uses for our equipment….so much for the learning curve on flying Blackhawks.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1432371405727977472
It could be a US trained former Afghan Army pilot flying it.
I’m presume as much myself. However, the Afghan Army collapsed in part because Xiden pulled their contractor support, where I suspect the more critical aviation maintenance skills reside, and I am doubtful that they can maintain flight operations for long.
Fortunately for the Taliban, we left them lots of easy to maintain Russian helos that they have long experience with and can get support from the Russians for.
By design.
Easy to recruit. Just threaten to kill the guy’s family. That’s how they recruited some of the truck-bomb (VBIED) drivers.
We don’t know where or when. Beware.
Can’t see any of this going down without the consent of the white house. McKenzie might be dumb enough to take the blame but surely we’re not dumb enough to believe he did it alone.
The Washington Post is reporting…then it’s a lie.
It’s certainly spin with copious amounts of omission, but all their weak hands are so dirty it can’t possibly be hard to betray each other with the simple facts of who did and said what.
Bezos bought the Washington Post to spew radical liberal propaganda. Why has no conservative mogul purchased a national paper to provide the MAGA viewpoint? There is a glaring need for a national media outlet for the MAGA movement to counter the leftist Woke World of the NY Times and the Washington Post.
Is it too much to hope for that Team one and Team two would enter into a fight to the death and destroy each other, leaving us with a “clean slate” from which we could form a new Team USA?
No, I didn’t think so. No matter which Team is successful, we are still in very deep trouble. Thank you for the insight, Sundance.
Where’s the kool aide when we need it?
It all so interesting much of what Team One has been trying to accomplish since 2011 and successively being blocked at every turn involves at some level of trying to put the Muslim brotherhood in the driver seat somewhere.
A requirement, “For what?”
But, with this latest outcome in Afghanistan.
Don’t be surprised the next intersection of Team One vis Iran.
Sees Iran help the Taliban infiltrate and destabilize some Arab government that is teetering.
And there are only two.
Saudi Arabia or,
My hunch Jordan.
Where the Muslim brother has a sizeable presence and a huge blood debt because Black September.
Lt. Col. Scheller is correct. Command authority must be held accountable and it must not be limited to Gen. McKenzie. Austin and Milley must go too.
And let’s take a very long, hard look at how we do “civilian control of the military” (and the enormous, ‘policy-making’ DC rat-maze therein). A legitimate Constitutional precept, horribly abused these last fifty-plus years.
Doom On Them
So we’ll in advance of the Taliban taking control of the entire country, something we were told was completely unexpected when it happened, we have US Centcom essentially planning and acknowledging in advance with the Taliban that the Taliban would be in control of Kabul BEFORE August 31. Everything Biden, Blinke, Miley, Austin, etc have uttered about this disaster have been complete and naked lies.