There have been various and increasing ¹reports all day that a Biden-authorized U.S. drone strike targeting ISIS-K, in retaliation for their Kabul terrorist attack, not only killed Islamic terrorists, but also killed allies, innocent civilians and children.
[NOTE: I hate to keep harping on this, but it is important context. Remember CNN represents the official position of the State Dept. If CNN reports it, that is Team #1 (Dos/CIA), positioning a narrative to put Team #2 (White House and Pentagon) in a compromising position.]
New York Post – Multiple Afghan civilians, including relatives and children, were reportedly killed in Sunday’s US airstrike near the Kabul airport.
US officials said the drone strike wiped out a vehicle carrying multiple suicide bombers that posed an “imminent ISIS-K threat” to the city’s airport.
The exact amount of casualties was not immediately clear, but a relative of those killed told CNN that nine of his family members died in the drone strike. Six children, ranging in age from 2 to 10, and three adults were among the dead, the relative told the news outlet. (read more)
[Original CNN report HERE] – As the media start to pick up the story, dig and verify the reports of innocents as collateral damage, unbelievably U.S. Central Command (Centcom) releases a public statement seemingly admitting to the issue.
The media reports must be accurate because CentCom would never release a bulletin like that if the claim wasn’t valid. The Pentagon appears to be positioning to say that the vehicle was full of material that made the targeted explosion much worse…. yikes.
Bad situation…
♦ TEAM One – The Department of State is aligned with the CIA. Their media PR firms are CNN, CNNi and the Washington Post. Their ideology is favorable to the United Nations. Their internal corruption is generally driven by relationship with foreign actors. References: Hillary Clinton, Clinton Global Initiative, John McCain, Qatar, Muslim Brotherhood, Samantha Powers, Susan Rice, Cass Sunstein, Brookings Institute, Lawfare, China-centric, Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Council on Foreign Relations.
♦ TEAM Two – The White House is aligned with the Pentagon (DoD) and National Security Council (NSC). Their media PR firms are domestic in nature. New York Times, Politico, etc. Their internal corruption is generally driven by domestic influence. References: Barack Obama, George Bush, Wall St, Big Banks, Multinational Corporations, Defense Contractors, FBI (state police), Judicial Branch, and community activists writ large.
Just like the vaccines, Biden and the JCS are “safe and effective”.
Not just incompetent but evil.
Absolutely evil.
Nothing this admin does is safe and only effectively turns everything to s@#t!
AND it is ALL by design!!!!!!
There is no way you are going to pull off a strike without taking civilians with them.
This is about as successful of the FDA approval of a vax you cannot get. Pfizer retains immunity under the EUA and if anything goes wrong the FDA can say it was an EUA so you should have known there were risks.
Nothing is off the table anymore. Whenever you start thinking “they would never…”, discard that thought as fast as possible.
“they would never…..”
Them, “watch and see!”
Agreed. Biden & Co. are the Pfizers of Big Pharma. Strike that—they’re not that smart.
I’m trying to put together a propositional table in my mind: Good and Evil on the X axis and Genius and Stupid on the Y.
That gives you 4 cells. I’m fairly settled on the Evil, so that narrows it down to two: Evil & Smart, or Evil & Stupid. Nobody in the White House evinces genius or even common sense. Not one of them.
The way D.C. has been makes for dangerous and unstable conditions, just like with the mRNA vaccines. They can soften their positions and give civilization a chance, or they can double, triple and quadruple down on corrupt and suicidal policies.
I am not bullish on position-softening or civilization’s longevity at this point.
It’s all very maddening. “9/11” may not just be a 20-year anniversary, unfortunately. I have no problem with OXiden putting himself out of his misery. What I do object to is his taking the rest of us down with him.
I agree with you; however, what I can’t wrap my head around are all the stupid smart people they are able to manipulate. There are a lot of libtards out there who actually voted for Biden/Harris, they are “with Fauci”, they couldn’t wait to get the vaccine, etc. How did that happen?
An example of what you describe is Honolulu’s announcement today of the Safe Access Oahu Program that requires proof of vaccination or negative COVID-19 test within 48 hours in order to enter an “establishment”…and that will include more than restaurants, bars and gyms.
Almost all of the comments below the article say “It’s about time!” and “Just get the shot!”…the Aloha State has lost its Aloha, reverting to its ancestral ways of hypercommunitarianism, medical barbarism, and a deeply-stratified society.
Idiots governed by knaves, told what to believe by corrupt and evil priests in the technocracy.
that is not necessarily true that civilians MUST die.
I have no details to comment about this particular mission, so I don’t know squat.
what I do know is that the military should be following some rules of engagement…
for example .. rough example…but same philosophy…high speed pursuits are often called off when entering high density traffic.
seats teams are often held back until sure kill shots can be made
embedded terrorists are a real thing…we know this…waiting becomes a timing issue.
but as I said, it may well be the threat allowed no waiting opportunity.
but to suggest civilians must be killed and are some afterthought would invite a kind of military conduct I would never support, and I very much doubt is what goes on.
the real problem, one that continues to be highly debated is the use of these unmanned drones with operators a world away…it’s not the technology that is the problem but the remote decision making…direct assessments with human eyes on scene is a much superior intelligence product ..than running the remote drone ops.
the modern use of drones no longer depend on forward recon assets on the ground…
the worse case scenario is killing civilians.
the other bad outcome is assuming you’ve taken out the bad guys but have no means to verify
the other bad outcome is a lack of human feedback into decision MAKING… so you end up doing drone strikes over and over assuming it’s all working right ..
Yeah and Hannity kept telling us nearly every night about the “good men and women of the FBI”. “High Confidence” = No Evidence.
If it turns out no terrorist died in the attack, we can always bring out the all encompassing “Fog of War” defense. It is the same fog that allows the US to keep 1/6 political prisoners.
That’s my bet- it will turn out no terrorists died in this attack….
If any of you Treepers watch Hannity regularly, please raise your hand . . .
“…a kind of military conduct I would never support, and I very much doubt is what goes on.”
Well, a kid just went to prison to share details that should make your doubt disappear:
“The reality, Hale revealed, was the drone strikes regularly resulted in the death of innocents, and the government covered it up by automatically classifying anybody killed as “militants” even when they weren’t the targets of the strikes. This allowed the government to insist that civilian casualties were being kept to a minimum.”
https://reason.com/2021/07/28/daniel-hale-revealed-americas-drone-assassinations-to-the-public-hes-been-sentenced-to-45-months-in-prison/
I will forever see that photo, and any future photo, of resident Biden in this manner:
Would make an ideal presidential portrait.
Or his backside as he retreats from questions.
Toss up.
This is the funniest thing I have seen in a long time. Thank you for posting this.?????
If there were suicide bombers in that vehicle with bombs, then it looks like the bombs did not go off. Otherwise we would not be seeing a vehicle.
Huh.
Bingo
Not to mention paint still on the vehicle and notice the Bullet holes too ?
Any explosion in that vehicle would destroy it with most of the vehicle gone.
If that was the vehicle in the picture the whole story was a lie a hellfire would of peeled it open.second the seats inside are still good. Why is no metal pushed out on the vehicle. To me it looks like the vehicle was torched that’s it
depends on the chosen device.
some devices require an inviting force that is very specific.
believe it or not, taking out some explosive devices will not produce the same kinds of effects that the device itself is capable of
just saying
Technically correct.
You can put most HE in a fire and it won’t explode. RDX, SX2, CompB, they will all burn without exploding.
Little problem: shock from compressive wavefront or shrapnel impact above 600 m/s can trigger detonation over deflegation.
Shockwave and fragmentation speed from a Hellfire missile? Over 7000 m/s.
There is something wrong with this picture.
And why would more than one suicide bomber be sacrificed for one car bomb?
Moral and religious support?
Or maybe the Biden Junta is packed so full of it that it is spraying out of their lying mouths …
A Hellfire missile would have done far mor damage than that and any secondary explosion would have made a huge hole.
Having a wide-0pen southern border through which all kinds of people have entered the country, the Biden government have handed the “Tolly-Bonn” and IS-K an outrage that is an excuse and predicate for violence in Afghanistan as well as terrorism on American soil.
God help us.
Only God CAN help us.
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10000000000% right on!
Only if we do the work.
I’m kinda old now with little fear, but the only thing that scares the living sh*t out of me now is the Federal Government
My favorite shirt says, “Don’t piss off old people. Life in prison is less of a deterrent each year.”
It ain’t OUR government anymore.
For quite some time.
Just look at Australia right now. They have a total of 4 cases of “Covid” and they are beating there own citizens and dragging kids away from their parents.
Lance wallenaw on America’s voice showed a politician in Australia praising Queensland and the building of Camps in progress.
Yes camps to keep infected people
They are not camps they are single story separate accommodation units for people returning to Australia who must isolate for 14 days. This is much safer than multi storey hotels in the Center of state capitals
Tim: “They are not camps.. ”
Not sure if that is a /sarc observation on Lefty use of euphemistic-language, or not…
However; with no irony, I note that the Queensland “non-camp” is named “Wellcamp”.
Wellcamp.
It’s called Wellcamp because that is the name of the town where the isolation centre is built.
Wellcamp was named by the Railways Department after a camp for workers constructing the Toowoomba–Hendon railway, which happened to be located beside a well in the area. The line opened in 1869.
Can you even imagine how giddy the Lefty’s must be that their “non-camp” quarantine camps are in a historical place called Wellcamp?
It’s probably like Euphemism² to them.
Believe half of what you are there to see , and none of what you hear. …….. There are Stuff-Ups , and the State Premiers do not yet understand that the ” Vaccines ” are a blind alley going no-where. ……. But every ” News Item ” is twisted for maximum effect. ……. Sound familiar ? ?
This may not be popular but this is Afghanistan’s problem. We don’t deliberately target civilians. Afghans need to rid themselves of terrorists.
With over 90% of all evacuated people being Afghanistan citizens you should not worry about your question not being popular.
With over 40% of Afghan people believing car bombs are justified every American should be worrying and now they are all sitting on military bases readying to be delivered to every county in this country like the up to 26+ million illegals
> over 40% of Afghan people believing car bombs are justified
You just pull that out of the air?
Their problem is Shia/Sunni. That’s not our concern. What is our concern is international terrorism. President Trump’s team negotiated an agreement with the Afghan government and the Taliban where they would not host int’l terrorism. Whether they would have lived up to it we’ll never know because Biden trashed the agreement. The responsibility for this chaos is Biden’s. Nevertheless, those monkeys blew people to bits with a car bomb. And now they complain about retaliation? Where was their concern for innocents when they blew up a car bomb?
No it was not pulled out of the air.
It was reported on Bannon show and it was a poll of the Afghan people.
You don’t target innocent civilians, but the Pentagon Generals do.
I don’t believe that. They may know that innocents may be killed, but they don’t target innocents. Can mistakes be made? Of course, but that’s a far cry from deliberate targeting of innocents.
They targeted innocents civilians by their depraved indifference.
They had just one thing on their minds. To created the illusion they were doing something while things burn because of them.
agreed.
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Not arguing with you , but it can be simple logic , not a mistake. No doubt there were some people all along the road . Targeting the vehicle risks , say , 20 bystanders. …… The alternative is to let the vehicle get into a crowd of several thousand at the gate and blow up there. …… What decision would a Soldier make ?
Our “government” deliberately caused the deaths of 13 of our military. If they can do this without any remorse, and they can and did, then they most certainly do not give a flip about killing innocent civilians of another country.
If only Congress conducted oversight, or actually vetted those they promote to flag rank, or the clowns they confirm to run agencies.
We wouldn’t have soldiers being killed because of incompetence.
Or soldiers left behind at Kabul because some jackass flag officer wants the base cleaned up for the Taliban.
There is NO “Congress”; there us only Pelosi and McConnell, the rest are proxies, just there for show.
And, when it comes to confirming appointments, McConnell runs that show, and bears responsibility for the actions of every appointee he confirms.
Only a fool would believe anything coming out of CENTCOM or the Pentagon.
They likely didn’t kill any suicide bombers at all, just innocent men, women and children.
They should have just bombed an empty aspirin factor someplace.
“They could have just bombed an empty aspirin factory..”
Still might. /s
…or an “infant baby milk factory”…
When ALL intelligence has left the building how are they to know a “Car full” was killed ?
This is as much of a lie as Biden winning the election.
Just like slick Willy lobbing tomahawks to draw sympathy and diverting attention this is a flipping lie of all lies.
“Wag the Dog”.
Congrats Joe: You’re the new Bashar al-Assad.
You’re the George W. Bush of Saddam Husseins.
Always remember Joe didn’t do any of this by his lonesome.
He isn’t able to do much at all by his lonesome.
He is simply the puppet of those behind the curtain.
His fate should be living the remainder of his life in an alzheimers care facility.
Biden is the Robert Meuller of Jimmy Carters.
Think about it.
“The exact
amountnumber of casualties was not immediately clear, but a relative of those killed told CNN that nine of his family members died in the drone strike. Six children, ranging in age from 2 to 10, and three adults were among the dead, the relative told the news outlet.”They should be charged with war crimes and crimes against humanity.
BTW, using “amount” rather than “number” is dehumanizing.
Should be, but won’t.
Imagine, if you will, this happening under President Trump’s watch …
I still don’t think anything is an accident in Afghanistan.
I really don’t.
They need a reason to dump Biden. And the knives are out.
They just gave the Islamists enough weapons to field an army, cash, and the ability to generate future cash (bribes to return hostages).
China got another hedge against India plus the lithium.
Democrats/globalists got hoards of “refugees”.
The average American got screwed. Again.
I’m afraid we’re see the decline of the American empire. The country is so hopelessly fractured that I don’t see a come to Jesus moment waking up the other half.
The American Empire has been in decline for awhile.
Biden and Co. is merely accelerating the process.
As a nation, we failed to see the changes in the 1990s – the accelerated globalism. Plus we got hoodwinked into stupid Middle East wars.
The 1990s set this up. We fell asleep at the wheel.
Time for either ( and/or? ):
(1) A constitutional assembly of the States to address the issues of a corrupted Federal Gov that the creators of the Constitution could not imagine ( the enemy within ). Only a majority is required to establish a valid caucus.
and/or
(2) A Secession of states and perhaps a Civil War that doesn’t affect my property’s value.
The other possibility was what Sundance hinted at a few months ago:
The United Counties of America.
Trust me, here in Calimexistan we have lots of counties that are conservative and would love to split from Calimexistan… the same all over the nation. You think the people in Southern/Eastern Oregon and Southern/Eastern Washington like what Portlandia and King County have done to their States? Or what the San Franciskovich mafia has done to our once Golden State?
Same in NV, AZ, CO, VA, IL, etc, etc….
NY is the same. Every county outside of Downstate is conservative with few exceptions.
Our problem has always been the illegals and vote fraud.
Actually are forefathers have seen this moment hence the 2 amendment rights and the right of the people to abolish this government. This government is no good and should be abolished. taking the constitution and bill of rights should again be set up.
IDK, In the end how well will the Taliban treat China? China can’t even live with their own Muslim population, they are purging the Uighers. How does the Taliban feel about that? How is China supposed to enter Afghanistan to mine minerals if Afghanistan has it’s own Uigher population? Sound like more war and fighting on the horizon.
The beauty of that- not our problem. Let the Chinese deal with them for awhile.
Centuries old wars can be fought by cultures with dynasties that go just as far back.
They need a reason to dump Biden. And the knives are out.
they have planned to LUMP all bad things on Biden.
there would be no benefit in dumping him…. understand WHY he was installed…to provide at least a 4 year wall against all accountability…
when this reality sets in… what Biden really means to the Corruptors…
you come to an understanding of why his installment was necessary.
let’s look at it another way
.if president Trump was I power, they would thwart his every decision, ptsung every fraud to destroy his power and image… that was largely successful…but Trump was naming names and pushing hard .so they could not risk trying to manipulate him with the typical heavy hits.
with Biden installed, the man “, holds” the power they can use..the power they have always needed to fulfill unchallenged power…Biden will be attacked to force him to kneel ..unlike Trump, Biden is a embecile navel gazer who can’t remember the last time he fought hard against anything other than the urge to sneak another pudding pop …
he’s the perfect useful idiot they chose to hold out as the face whom to place all Blame. they will do this for at least 3.5 years…
the course of history and the destiny of what happens for America is largely dependant on what happens to Biden..
but even if he meets his demise, will not stop the Corruptors from using it’s new power.. Kamala is just another door step they will abuse in the same way.
Since your prognosticating about possible future events, I have wondered if TPTB might JFK both Karmala AND Joe, blame it on those White nationalist terrorists who question; the 2020 election results, Covid vax, Climate change and CRT.
Excuse to round them all up and put them in camps?
Or, shades of 911, they blame it on Islamic extreamists, to get us to reingage in mid-east wars.
Notice Pelosi ascends to the WH, and good luck ever prying her out, once she gets in there!
If the Bidenistas were deliberately trying to destroy our country tell me one thing they would do differently.
no questions remain about the agenda… none.
was only trying to get clarity on the reality of why Biden was installed.
the perfect useful embecile.
not a theory.
a corrupt broken politico, with a long history of fraud and deceit, now permanently mentally disengaged has CIA written all over it.
the point is…it doesn’t matter WHO the president IS.
the person is not in charge…the POWER of the President is fully in the hands of the Corruptors.
our nation’s most powerful position of decision making PLUS CONGRESS has been usurped by corporate technocrat globalists…who are aligned with china first policies.
they look at US, you and me as mere consumers of a market they own
period
every single decision and corrupt act that congress and POTUS “makes” is making CCP stronger and the US weaker.
I am quite aware the veneer of political leadership is essential to insulate this globalists agenda
Under common law Biden must be found innocent as he is as bereft of cognitive ability as an infant or farm animal.
This is on the Pentagon.
America’s back …
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That’s good Leon!
Care if I meme-ify it?
“Ol’ Backsides Biden.”
This should be the model for his presidential portrait.
Only presidents get official portraits. This usurper should get a shove out the door.
I’m not sure how to put it into words, but the amount of incompetence at every turn of this fiasco is astounding. From the Joint staff agreeing to shut down Bagram, to the intel community not seeing what was happening before the Taliban arrived at Kabul, to the State Derp handing out a list of targets to the Taliban, to the CENTCOM commander agreeing the Taliban should handle security outside the airport, to the Taliban now saying they can extend the deadline if Biden agrees to allow them access to Afghan assets that are frozen.
And Biden will agree to the extension and given them full access to the frozen assets, because the Taliban will be showing him the list of Americans still in Afghanistan.
…and Congress completely out to lunch on all of this.
Intentional or not, our government has ceased to function, and is about to collapse.
Yup. Any time.
They’ve been putting “stupid” in all of those chemtrails since November 2020.
That’s one explanation…
Biden is in a lose-lose situation made by his own stupidity. No one, absolutely NO ONE, in D.C. wanted to pull out of Afghanistan.
The most bone-headed decision Biden could have made was pulling out of Afghanistan and p.o.ing 100% of the D.C. political class.
Lee Smith has given the best explanation outside of Sundance’s. imo
Lee Smith, a long-time D.C. resident and one of the extremely few honest political reporters left, explained what Biden has done to himself by pulling out of Afghanistan, and it ain’t good.
This is a piece of an interview Lee Smith had with Jan Jekeilek of American Thought Leaders. It is a little long – 11 minutes – but well worth the time for the understanding.
“Lee Smith: ‘In DC, No One Wanted to Leave’ Afghanistan | CLIP | American Thought Leaders” 11:04
It’s not surprising that all of Washington was opposed to ending involvement in Afghanistan. The problem, IMO, is not that Biden defied the wishes of the D.C. establishment in pulling out. The problem is legions of faceless unelected bureaucrats were able to defy the President’s orders – that they were allowed to create the conditions which resulted in 13 U.S. soldiers killed along with over 100 innocent civilians.
They were raking in trillions of $, thru keeping afcrapistan war going,…and THATS why deep state didn’t want it to end, and why they were p.o.’d when Biden did.
“The deep State has six ways from Sunday, to get back at you”.
They lie to the C in C, slow walk, leak and set the POTUS up for a fall.
Bay of Pigs comes to mind.
Perhaps Biden defied everyone. I don’t know. But I do know that Trump constantly defied everyone in DC with every decision, and we didn’t have this kind of colossal screw up overseas. Something else is going on, in my opinion.
Poso is insinuating that the Pentagon took targeting info from the Taliban. In any other timeline I would think this was nuts.
Unfortunately strikes like these have a possibility of collateral damage, as evidenced by the leaked drone footage recently. I wonder if we used a kinetic energy weapons system (not an explosive warhead) and it still triggered a secondary from explosive materials in the targeted car.
Dead kids, there’s nothing you can ever say to lessen that impact or set it right. Doesn’t matter whose kids they are or where they’re at.
I made a sarcastic comment previously about Lt Col Scheller being relieved of his sidearm and placed in a DC gulag. I saw comments that said the USMC were basically sending people to his home to monitor his mental health. Chilling.
I have a hard time believing that the targeting information came from the Taliban. It almost certainly came from the CIA who seem to be doing their best to inflame the situation in Afghanistan. Posobiec otherwise seems to have good sources and according to him it was an Afghan translator and his family that were killed.
The Taliban must be laughing their asses off (when they are not busy raping little boys, women and goats).
These imbeciles are outsmarting our “intelligence” agencies.
Taliban and cia is the samething
where is Kerry on this?
I’m not an expert but looking at that van it seems to me that if there were explosives inside there would be nothing left of the van.
The military is just making this stuff up and why not? They know every single media outlet will dutifully repeat the lie “the van contained explosives …we averted another terrorist attack”
The media will never report that ISIS-K is a creation of the CIA and that many of it’s members were helicoptered out of Iraq in 2017/18 – where they faced certain death – and flown to Afghanistan for the purpose of creating terrorism there as they had done in Iraq and Syria.
I wonder if the world will ever wake up and realize who the real bad guys are? Will people continue to be fooled by these CIA games?
It all started when the CIA (with the help of the Pentagon) assassinated JFK and got away with it. They have been in charge ever since.
Do you have any photos of children killed by the Taliban’s car bomb? Or are you (Muhammad Jalal) just pumping their propaganda?
There is no indication that this family was connected to the Taliban in fact according to reports the father was an interpreter so I don’t understand what one has to do with the other.
Why didn’t he post pictures of innocents killed by a car bomb? We should not buy into any Afghans’ hate America crap.
I think the Pentagon Generals are engaged in a campaign to get everyone to hate them. I think they are making a lot of progress.
They may have finally found something they could succeed at.
You don’t understand what one has to do with the other as one has nothing to do with the other.
You don’t understand? An Afghan posts pictures of children killed by a U.S. drone but not pictures of children killed by a Taliban car bomb. Does that clear it up for you?
Here is how Muhammad Jalal describes himself in his twitter bio:
“An ordinary Afghan & Peace. My views are personal here. Peaceful, prosperous and Independent Afghanistan is the dream of all Afghans”
There is no indication that he is a Taliban and every indication that he is peace loving.
You really don’t get it.
He still trusts. Or pushes lies with the mamet face
Not really.
If the non combatants were killed because they were with / in close proximity to multiple suicide bombers, bad luck….be careful who you travel near/with.
Wow! Let’s transpose that attitude to Washington DC, on Jan 6, 2021.
See any parallels there?
This is the kind of thinking that destroys the moral underpinnings of a “conservative” belief system.
It’s a slippery slope, and we are sliding near the bottom of that slope already.
Same justification could be used to target any American, civilian or military, in retaliation for our attacks on their civilians. Pretty much the last 19 and a half years of never-ending wars and occupations have created huge groups of people who hate what we have allowed the deep state/neocons/PC-Progs to do in our name overseas.
Let them hash out their own beefs with each other. We must get the heck out of their countries, lick our wounds and heal ourselves, without rancor against the pitiful people we’ve subjugated and paid off, and deal with our own issues.
Anyone heard anything about the 2020 election fraud, or Jan 6, or FBI entrapment ops against Normals, or the invasion across our southern border lately? Don’t be played. Real American “conservatism” rejects meddling and interfering in other people’s problems. We must leave them alone.
An excellent case study below of the insanity of such an attitude. The idea is that anyone near a crime (or their cell phone being located near a crime, actually) justifies arrest/search/seizure of Americans in America. The foreign version of that is that being located near a suspect cell phone justifies the US government killing you.
“Geofence warrants are also known as “reverse-location” warrants, since they seek to identify people of interest who were in the near vicinity at the time a crime was committed. Police do this by asking a court to order Google, which stores vast amounts of location data to drive its advertising business, to turn over details of who was in a geographic area, such as a radius of a few hundred feet at a certain point in time, to help identify potential suspects.”
https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/19/google-geofence-warrants/
Do we really want to go there? Hint: too late! We’re there already!
It is so obvious that the Deep State is after an American Citizen in Afghanistan. And they want that citizen dead. Look what they have done so far, including threatening neighboring nations if they let private citizens, working to rescue Americans abandoned in Afghanistan, land and refuel their private planes.
God be with you, whoever you are. I’m pulling for you !
Good point. Maybe they don’t want people coming back here and telling the real story of what was going on in Afghanistan.
So the two factions did at least agree on one thing: Trump was bad for them and they united against him rigging the election?
The story here is they are now warring and undermining amongst themselves.
If each department in america thinks they can lead a country of their own, then it is already civil war.
The problem with all of this is that “our” Federal Gov. put us in a situation where, for purely political reasons, they went and blew up some bad hombres.
They are so weak, in such a self created position of weakness, they felt they had to show their ‘strength’ and use their toys (Do you really think the CIA was not involved in this? I got a bridge to sell you then. ).
It is likely there were bad hombres being targeted but in a situation where taking them out without collateral damage was inevitable.
If the fools in the Biden Admin had taken the initial offer from the Taliban for US forces to keep control of Kabul until an orderly transfer of power to the Taliban on the agreed upon date had been agreed on, we would have been able to effect the evacuation of our people and our allies.
But nooo… for purely political -and dogmatic reasons, and astonishing incompetence- the Biden Admin refused the Taliban’s offer.
More and more, it looks to me like the Taliban are the only grown ups in this whole sordid affair.
All that matters now is the 2022 Congressional election.
If Biden’s UniParty faction gets up it means the country is now default leftard. I would then see no way back short of economic disaster. If The Don’s UniParty faction wins by the length of the straight, 2024 is looking crisp.
Terrorist Wedding party. Murder in the name of government.
What an admin full of cowards. No resignations, no firings, no whistleblowers. Where is the GOP leadership? This is as much on you, you allowed Biden free reign to choose his cabinet. Did you do anything to put sand in the gears? Just useless.
I had always thought Obama was on team Muslim Brotherhood, and was more of a globalist.
When does this group of fakes ever do anything that doesn’t cause injuries to innocents? Sorry but you have to care to be doubly careful and this group doesn’t and isn’t.
Pitiful.
If the car loaded with explosives and allies, it’s possible the TB/ISIS were using hostage terps/families to try to gain access or proximity to the airfield.
We absolutely work our asses off to avoid civilian casualties. Or at least we did before January this year.
Last night I heard Jack Posobeic ask where the military got their Intel? We have no eyes and ears on the ground. He asked ” Did the Taliban give the info to us, taken from the list of Americans and that were to be allowed into the airport, conveniently given to them by the State Dept ?” Are we now targeting our own people and Afghani’s who worked with us, with info fed back to us from the Taliban?
Bingo. They got Biden to take out an interpreter from the list provided by the Pentagon.
Two birds with one stone- killed a dissident in their eyes by fooling your enemy into doing it. They laugh at us.
Pray that this is not true:
https://www.weaselzippers.us/473716-abc-correspondent-bus-loads-of-american-women-turned-away-at-hkia-gate-turned-over-to-taliban-likely-dead/
Buses of American women turned away.
The underlying source is Michael Yon, who is not on the ground so may himself be an intermediary source for someone who is on the ground. He has done amazing work in the past and I fully expect he has a huge contact list of Operators he’s regularly in touch with. Still, I hope that he’s getting and passing on bad info.
More lies from those in our government.
I think everyone is missing something important. Who gave is the intel. On this target ? The Talaban, who just got done negotiating with the CIA clown on behalf of Biden. everyone was wondering about the terms of that deal. We know Biden would accept anything to help deflect their responsibility. Pay any amount or anything to cover their asses. A very weak position to be in correct. Taliban to CIA clown ,bozo, give us money help with military equipment training and ligitamacy internationally and we will help identify suicide bombers. CIA bozo says. That’s more like it. Thank you thank you thank you sir. taliban then gives target of family and someone who helped out marines in the past. Has Biden kill two birds with one drone strike. Message to collaborators your next, and to Biden we have you by the balls you infidels .
Now you will give us everything we want.
The taliban keeps sayings its the other terrorist groups yet who is working hand in hand with those groups? They may have taken their playbook from the fbi. Get the other group to do something and then say it wasn’t me. Whole thing boils down to the simple fact that our troops are being killed along with innocent women and children and it needs to stop. Get our people out of there. Those who live there surely have a better chance at hiding until they or we can get them out later. But we the people will not forget the thousands of young able bodied afgan men who should have been the last but instead were the first.
After decades of Bush and Obama’a restrictive ROE, I could give a rat’s if there’s collateral damage. Too little,though, and way too late.
You seem to be getting information from the wrong sources. The fact is that Bush began the remote assassination program (killing individuals via drones, and other invisible means), with a bit of vetting of targets, but not much. Obama opened the floodgates, made it “cool” to kill anyone, and did exactly that–including assassinating US citizens (think about how that precedent is gonna play out in our current civil disputes….).
Neocon media babbles non-stop about “Obama” being somehow not into their war-forever. Hilariously (from a political point of view) Obama was much more of a neocon tool than was Bush! Not only did Obama’s handlers (like Biden, Obama is an empty suit, doing as he’s told) enlarge the neocons’ targets and attacks in Iraq and Afghanistan, they opened up massive war fronts in Syria, Yemen, Somalia and other African hellholes, and wiped out friendly or semi-friendly regimes in Libya, Egypt, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco, and other places.
So, no, “Obama” did not have “restrictive ROE” to obliterate cell phones and anyone near the phones.
“There were ten times more air strikes in the covert war on terror during President Barack Obama’s presidency than under his predecessor, George W. Bush.
Obama embraced the US drone programme, overseeing more strikes in his first year than Bush carried out during his entire presidency. A total of 563 strikes, largely by drones, targeted Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen during Obama’s two terms, compared to 57 strikes under Bush. At least 384 civilians were killed.”
https://www.mintpressnews.com/obama-carried-out-ten-times-more-covert-drone-strikes-than-bush/224137/
Imagine the environmental footprint of all is this destruction. Air, water, soil, natural resources, human impacts. It’s never part of the equation, and, imo, it’s how we can know with certainty that the green new deal is completely phony, and the agenda driving it is something different than what we are told.
Apparently there is no CCP covid in Afghanistan either.
How many targeted killings (drone, door kicking, hellfire, AC130, and more) did we carry out in the last 20 years?
How’d that work out?
These assassinations are sort of like a toddler striking out during a tantrum. Releases pent up anger/frustration, but totally useless tactically and strategically.
But it looks good on the media: “US Retaliates!” And it makes a certain American demographic, which is unable to see things through the enemy’s eyes (a crucial ability for any conflict), chortle and cheer. All the while completely clueless that such strikes simply create ever-lasting hatred in the occupied/attacked populace.
We’re 20 years into unrestricted drone assassination warfare. Combined with social engineering “civil society” operations (gender, sex, rainbow flag, lectures on how to live their lives) the recipients of the incoming drone strikes clearly have no love lost for the PC warriors from the States.
In case you haven’t seen it (you should) a drone operator finally spilled the dirty beans on our worse than useless drone operations: they killed indiscriminately, with no repercussions.
“The reality, Hale revealed, was the drone strikes regularly resulted in the death of innocents, and the government covered it up by automatically classifying anybody killed as “militants” even when they weren’t the targets of the strikes. This allowed the government to insist that civilian casualties were being kept to a minimum.”
https://reason.com/2021/07/28/daniel-hale-revealed-americas-drone-assassinations-to-the-public-hes-been-sentenced-to-45-months-in-prison/
The end results of a strategy that has the POTUS approving precision SWAT team actions and individual drone strikes off a “disposition matrix,” rather than freeing experienced field grade commanders to conduct the so called Global War on Terror (better named Local Kenetics to Delay and Disrupt Terror) using ALL combat advantages, is on display at Karzai airport this week.
Want to fight a war? Kill the enemy.
Well, the “experienced field grade commanders” ran the war for 19 years.
In addition to droning cell phones (non-stop through the entire 20 years we were there), those experienced commanders were free to operate. What did they do? chased their own tails with nonsense “nation-building” and “counter-insurgency” tactics and strategy focused on girls’ schools, 3 cups of tea, capability-building, and much, much more.
Occupying a hostile country while pretending to “spread democracy” and “build a nation,” at the same time as destroying an indigenous culture while attempting to impose PC-Prog values (rainbow flags, BLM, etc) on the indigenous culture was a fool’s game, with zero chance of success. The locals simply waited us out, and took control from the quisling collaborators once we began to leave–there was no other possibility.
Conducting attacks with the goal of “disrupting terror” becomes, in essence, our own version of terror operations–invisible strikes from the sky at any time, in any place, based on technical databases. “Kill the enemy?” Actually those operations would be better termed “create an enemy.”
I wonder where this fits in: Pete Santilli aired a clip by a CNN correspondent who claimed to have interviewed an “ISIS-K” terrorist 2 weeks before the Kabul suicide bomber. They are saying it was “the terrorist who killed our troops” – but CNN didn’t air it, or did we miss that?
https://rumble.com/vlv0n6-ep-2588-9am-cnn-cia-co-incidentally-interviews-terrorist-who-killed-our-tro.html
Like SD says, trust but verify.
Emily Miller — “There’s 7 buses of female American citizens. The CG refused to open the gate. We have a congressman with us and he had the state department reach out. MG Donahue refused. 10 minutes ago the females were taken by the Taliban. They are likely dead now.”
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/7-buses-of-american-women-likely-dead-now/
someone please remove this idiot and his clown show…
“We know that there were substantial and powerful subsequent explosions resulting from the destruction of the vehicle, indicating a large amount of explosive material inside that may have caused additional casualties.”
I can hear them now:’And besides, it wasn’t our controlled explosive that killed those outside the confines of the vehicle, it was the terrorists’ very own powerful suicide explosives that indiscriminately killed innocents. We only kill terrorists.’
right…
Let’s pull out and look at the bigger picture for a moment:
Under Trump, the Deep State was in open opposition and defiance against a duly elected President. His supporters were apoplectic as his own party stood by and did nothing, because they approved of the activity.
Under Biden, once again the Deep State is subverting a president, not one I would call duly elected but occupying the Oval Office nonetheless.
Are we going to laugh and jeer as the same bad guys who tried to destroy Trump take out Biden? Satisfying though it is, I will not. This is as wrong as wrong can be. Infighting among the ruling class (DOS/CIA vs Pentagon/Executive branch) may be pleasing at this moment but this needs to stop. This is our Republic on fire, and the blaze is now consuming those who set it alight in the first place.
I never thought I’d say this: Biden needs to start firing people and going after the Deep State, and we need to support that effort. This is bigger than any one man or political party.
Bingo!
It’s what I’ve been warning since we (under the administration of Biden’s handlers) began withdrawing from Afghanistan. The deep state permanent bureaucrats are responsible for this–for today’s fiascoes, chaotic military/civilian officials/unofficial American civilians/Afghans affiliated with American occupation/other Afghan refugee pull-outs, collapse of the Quisling Afghan “government”, and every other horrific failure of the last 20 years.
Biden is a stooge–a patsy, a geriatric basket case propped up for the cameras to deflect from his handlers’ and the bureaucrats’ abject failures.
Unfortunately, “Biden” will never take on the permanent bureaucrats. His handlers are in debt to, and part of, the deep state. We are long past any sort of “pull together for the sake of America” movement.
You must keep in mind the fact that the “conservative” movement is rotten from the inside–nearly all “conservative” media and politicians are totally bought and paid for by the hostile foreign sponsor of the neocons. Forever war in the Middle East, demonizing Russia and other tactics/strategies not in America’s best interests, are all they care about. Rewind to Obama/Hillary/Brennan’s wars in North Africa, Syria, Yemen, Kurdistan, and others. The neocons were all-in with Obama’s handlers for all of those–with no American interests served whatsoever.
America First is what Trump promised us. And it’s the course we must pursue. No more stupid interventions and meddling in others’ civil wars, blood feuds, millenia-old religious/ethnic/geographic disputes.
We all know that the islamists are not averse to placing women and children in harms way either as a deterrent or as a political maneuver.
Looks like the war on terror is back in vogue, coincidence?. The similarity between that and covid is now more apparent. The war on terror has only loosely defined enemies (no country to defeat) that we arm so it can be perpetuated anywhere and forever. Genius. For covid very similar in that they’re trying to eradicate the flu which can never be accomplished so this also can go on forever. More genius.
And don’t forget that the “war on terror” is also perfectly packaged for importation back into our own country! In fact, it’s already happened.
Exact same tactics/strategies employed against Normal Americans (“domestic terrorists”) as used against foreign “terrorists.”
The only question is: when/where/against whom will the first domestic drone strike be carried out?
Good analysis sage.
I am repeating this as often as possible wherever I post.
The US and allies have zero troops deployed away from Kabul Airport.
The Embassies of ALL Western Nations, especially the US and UK, left Target lists for the Taliban.
The Taliban or some related Islamic Group “designated” the Target (as well as will designate ALL future targets) and the US launched on that designation.
Of course the CENTCOM report will say: oops sorry about that and some non-woke random GI will be punished.
Not to defend bumbling senile pervert Xiden, but it’s simply not possible to carry out perfectly surgical strikes in an urban area with 4.5 million people.
And if the majority of the people and their army in Afghanistan don’t mind about having the Taliban, al Qaeda, and ISIS in charge enough to pick up unguarded 21st century US weapons and kill them from the many multistory buildings in a city of 4.5 million people occupied by a vastly smaller number of Taliban standing out in the open in the middle of streets, that’s their choice and their problem when we conduct strikes now and in the future as a result of bumbling senile pervert’s stupid choices.
There was a civil war after the Soviets left and there will probably be one now as the various terrorist factions kill each other, so that might give us a while before they set their sights on the West.
BS Winston.
The US is PURPOSELY allowing the enemy to direct our weapons using the target list we gave them. This was a surgical a strike against the intended target designated by the Taliban.
There may be a civil war but the US Government via Sock Puppet Joe has picked a side.
Go blow you BS else where.
How does K make the transfer to team 1?
…”Barack Obama, George Bush, Wall St, Big Banks, Multinational Corporations, Defense Contractors, FBI (state police), Judicial Branch, and community activists writ large.”…
Community activism threads thru Len Blavatnik (team 1) via Warner Music/Raz Simone/Lee Daniels.
Big Banks, Pharma, Defense contractors align with academic (team 1) and technology transfers that happened under Bush (team 2), while Clinton (team 1) was NYS’s Senator.
Defense contractors like NY based Lockheed, losing technology to espionage, while Comey (also HSBC link…team 1) was counsel, and Hillary was NYS’s senator.
Big bank leverage against Bill Clinton regarding Glass-Stegall (Sanford Weill: “I think we just made the POTUS an insider.”)
Sanford Weill (team 1 and team 2), Citigroup, see academic and technology transfers overseas. Can’t do that without the advocacy of senators and secretaries of state, and might need the help of high clearance cabinet secretaries, like the DoE, and possibly the governor of NY.
I refer to them as they, those in the highest positions of authority in our country.
They are evil incapable of doing good.
Removed from God by choice they have lost all ability for sound reasoning.
So far everything they have touched is cursed becomes corrupt is not useable.
Even the money they so eagerly distribute is done with wicked intent.
Their conscience is seared void of a moral judgement they’re aimlessly destroying everything that’s not like themselves.
Only God can remove this kind of wickedness.
Why was ex Michigan Governor traveling to Ukraine amidst the evacuation going on in Afghanistan?
Personal Biden Business?