A very odd sequence of events (more on that later) created a need for me to pause the ongoing “Fourth Branch of Government” series. A rather important discovery connected to Israeli intelligence and China came into view. I am still evaluating, and researching deeper than comfortable in this rabbit hole. It is very time consuming and more than a little complex to unravel.
If you read the article about the “Pegasus Project”, spyware created to infect cell phones that was marketed by Israeli intelligence through a company called NSO {Go Deep Here}, then you essentially know the background. However, a very serious connection and discovery has been made that changes the dynamic of that story completely.
It has been identified that the actual code that created the malware behind Pegasus was not, in actuality, code generated from within the network of the Israeli company that sells the software/spyware.
There is a very strong indication the actual spyware was created by the Chinese.
Yes, that would make the “Pegasus spyware” Chinese spyware distributed to western governments and agents (outside 5-eyes) through the false front of the Israeli government.
Obviously, if we can verify this evidence, the entire dynamic behind the story changes dramatically. The Israelis, specifically the NSO company that markets Pegasus, would have to know the origin was China. Questions: (1) Why would Israel act as the front for Chinese spyware to infect phones of western targets? (2) If the Israelis did not know the origin of the software/spyware was China, well, that’s an even bigger issue by itself – but the baseline there is doubtful.
The original Guardian Article explained Pegasus like this:
NSO creates tech software, spyware, that allows governments to spy on cell phones.
As the Guardian notes, [NSO] “sells surveillance technology to governments worldwide. Its flagship product is Pegasus, spying software – or spyware – that targets iPhones and Android devices. Once a phone is infected, a Pegasus operator can secretly extract chats, photos, emails and location data, or activate microphones and cameras without a user knowing.”
Due to the nature of the product they sell, NSO works with the Israeli government to vet the purchaser of the spyware they sell.
Returning to the Guardian report, “Claudio Guarnieri, who runs Amnesty International’s Security Lab, said once a phone was infected with Pegasus, a client of NSO could in effect take control of a phone, enabling them to extract a person’s messages, calls, photos and emails, secretly activate cameras or microphones, and read the contents of encrypted messaging apps such as WhatsApp, Telegram and Signal.”
Pegasus has been deployed to target tens-of-thousands of cell phones by the people who Israel sold the spyware to. The Guardian, and a group of allied leftists in media, has been granted access to a leaked massive batch of 50,000 phone numbers that the Pegasus software was operating in.
If the Chinese origin is accurate; and it looks to me like it is; then the real benefactor of all that spyware data extraction was actually the Communist Party of China. The people, and western governments who deployed the spyware, would have access to the phone data of the target. However, unbeknownst to the originating entity, the CCP would end up with access to the results of the spyware the Western government launched.
If this turns out to be correct, that is one super stealthy intelligence operation by the Communist Chinese with a myriad of downstream consequences.
Instead of infiltrating the databases of western enemies, the Chinese may have just provided a trojan horse to their enemy (Western governments) who then unwittingly (?) deployed spyware on their behalf, thinking the Western agents were conducting cell-phone surveillance on their own targets….. and while doing so they were unwittingly feeding the intelligence result to Chinese intelligence services.
More later….
Initial thoughts?
Sundance. Fantastic.
I’m so pro Israel but I have some nagging fears. You uncovered another one.
Why has Israel taken such a lead in the vaccine issue as well? Are these surveillance programs eventually going to work with whatever is in the vaccine?
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5G/Crowd Control/Miltary Unit Incapacity?
To get access to the Palestinians and Muslims within their country.
Israel has the equivalent of our Deep State. And this is nothing new.
Agree. Chin has infiltrated most countries, especially the “big” players. Astounding we keep helping them with their goal of being the #1 power in the world.
My opinion is that China-US are two sides of the same coin. A lot of pantomime is going on with “our” government.
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As the saying goes “you can’t cheat an honest man.” This wouldn’t happen if they were not trying to illegally spy on their own citizens.
And yet we honest men and women got cheated this past election.
We have a two party political system. A dishonest party lost to another dishonest party and neither party wishes to find out how those results were obtained.
Honest people are frequently victims of crime. In this case the perpetrators of the crime were mostly the people we have collectively voted into office for years. I dare say there are no honest actors in DC. Trump was the truest to his word, but he isn’t there anymore. Furthermore, while he was in DC, every person not in his immediate family had the long knives out for him.
I believe Comey’s day passes to the NSA database for “exports” (according to the FISA Judge Collyer 2017 report) was that backbone of Pegasus……
….and Obama’s database Maxine exposed accidentally ( following getting caught with the IRS records scandal)
oh, my. What a tangled web we weave…
Obama tries to subvert the constitution and set up his own surveillance state, ends up setting one up for this Chinese.
Obama says ‘Close enough”.
it wouldnt be by accident
If you control a billion people 180 million is a no brainer.
In the end countries are not countries but really businesses and everyone wants a cut.
Or Obama set one up for the Chinese – whose major ally is Iran – with the understanding that he would have access.
Disregard , the topic is on ‘ exploits other than the NSA database, for countries that don’t have access to that, instead they can purchase Pegasus.
I reread your other article, and did find one comment interesting. Essentially it points out the Guardian didn’t give a shit about NSA abuse, yet they worry of Pegasus that anyone can use to Target anyone (THEM).
How does one know whether one’s phone is infected with the Pegasus cr@p? And how to get rid of it?
Imagine if one’s number was one of the 50k listed in the attached link, that would be one way.
I just spent 2 minutes searching for the iOS information. Apple fixed the issue in version 9.35 of the iOS. If you have anything later they claim you are fine. Their information basically states that even if it had been on your device at any prior time, it’s not there now as long as your iOS is 9.35 or later.
And as usual the way it gets in is through phishing, so as always, be very careful about any clickable links in strange emails or texts.
Hence these punks getting rid of 3g.
Think hard.
To extract data you are stealing you need 5g. At every tower collecting
iOS ver. 9.3.5 was released in late August of 2016. That’s 5 years ago (for the math-challenged ? ).
How can we be certain that similar or even more stealthy spyware hasn’t been re-introduced to work with later versions, including the current ver. 14.7.1 ?
GB As the OS is evolving, Pretty sure that the spyware is evolving even faster.
Can we be sure that the OSCARS updates CLOSE holes or opens newer ones?????
the story about the beauty of Pegasus was you only had to be sent a text…no further action was required by you…once this text arrived at your phone Pegasus could be activated
Why phish when you can inject?
Sorry but it was found on a I6 running 12.5.4, it was fully removed by a FULL reset , then it showed up 3-4 hours later user was convinced that it was hiding in his ICloud Drive, he deleted the drive and deleted the whole account and opened a new Appel ID.
It would likely take some research but I don’t doubt some intrepid individuals have figured out the methodology of such incursions.
My main phone hasn’t taken an update or had an app added since before Trump was elected. No idea if it’s bad or not. It’s on 24/7 and a login screen would indicate something has occurred. Still, anything is possible. That’s why I have a backup or two.
I think staying away from social media helps too. I’ve never used it but did get teasers from Facebook, not lately, as friends/family had their e-mail contact lists mined. There are backups for that too, non mainstream providers or stand alone solutions.
The internet has long been a pretty transparent place and computers remember pretty much forever but it’s the humans that have changed. I’d expect the current milieu to accelerate from here on in. In order for it to change we’ll need to evolve as humans and I don’t see that happening in my lifetime anyway.
Here is the twitter account for reporting Cybersecurity Vulnerabilites and Exposures (CVE): https://twitter.com/CVEnew/
This is interesting to browse through….
I hear hammers are popular ways of addressing spyware.
Might I add Subpoenas as well?
Une peu de l’esprit de l’escalier . . .
Well, just ‘get rid of it !’ LOL, I did/had to about 5yrs ago (and with no withdrawals either). I’m so old I remember not having/needing them (as a contractor) I couldn’t take the ‘CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW’ any more.
That’s some 3D chess. Possible but I don’t know if the Chinese are that subtle.
On the other hand, corruption is the grease that makes anything possible. And the Chinese are really good at corruption. Plenty of corrupt western companies to choose from. I have no idea if Israel has a bigger than usual number of them.
Chinese (CCP) are very good at corruption and Westerners are very good at being corrupted… and it doesn’t really cost that much!
… none of this would be possible without MSM Fifth Columnists!
CCP is sailing!
Indeed.
Here, spy on your enemies, please and thank you.
“Initial thoughts?”
As Charleston Heston said in “Planet of the Apes” -It’s a Mad House! It’s a Mad House! It’s a Mad House!
Was chyna behind Pegasus???
A rhetorical question I presume?
Seems the question is more, as to why Israel is distributing China spyware.
Just spitballing. What if our IC developed the spyware, gave it to Isreal who (by agreement with us) asked China to partner with them on x, y and z, knowing China would insert itself like a Trojan Horse. What if our IC wanted to know if Israel was a loyal ally? Or what if the software allows our IC to do spying they can’t otherwise do and blame it on our ally who was “duped” by China. What if our IC developed the spyware to find out who the Chinese would spy on it they thought they had the capability to do it undetected ie. to find out if China knows who pulls the strings? What if the spyware was developed to spy in both directions so that China thinks they’re spying on us and doesn’t know we’re spying on them? What if the spyware provides info to Israel who passes it to the IC about their 5 eyes “partners” that they can’t collect through the NSA system? What if our IC is completely in bed with or controlled by China and are just using the spyware to create “it was all China’s doing” plausible deniability? What if our IC created the spyware and arranged for Israel to make China think they are a getting info via a Trojan horse, but the system is really designed to send them disinformation?
The possibilities seem quite endless. Perhaps, applying Occam’s Razor, and remembering the utterly frightening incompetency of the IC and FBI agents we’ve had the pleasure to get to know up close and personally (Peter Strzok, Andrew Vindman and the whole upper management of the State Dept. come to mind), any option that has our IC originating the spyware for our protection should be crossed off the list.
maybe the Isarealis were told to p lay along or get wiped out. Perhaps, bib i had to go because he was not cooperating.
The new leader is then complicit with CCP, then sells the data to the current US admin…
Your hunch is accurate.
This isn’t the first time China snuck in via offering services.
This bloomberg article discusses how China built a hardware hack into our electronic during manufacturing and sold them to our gov agencies.
We spent the next few years replacing these electronics.
Instead of hacking, they built the hack into the device, to turn on, and have it open a vulnerability to exploit for extraction.
The only headscratcher is why is Israel doing this? Was it done during Obama’s years cause they didn’t trust him, or is Israel in general not acting like our Ally.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies
“The only headscratcher is why is Israel doing this? …is Israel in general not acting like our Ally.”
That, is the correct question.
Why did Israel attack the USS Liberty? Same question.
a better question is why are American libs/commies so anti-Israel…If I were Israel I would take steps at national preservation as well…the Dimm/commies are not our friends and they are DEFINITELY not Israel’s
Perhaps the commies are not really anti-Israel. Perhaps they say and do what suits their purposes at the moment.
Divide and conquer.
Why is everyone instantly jumping to antiSemitic commentary? We have our own USA haters right in the USA and plenty of Canadian sellouts to China as well.
Shall I bring up how the Americans blew four of our Canadian guys to kingdom come in Afghanistan and accuse the USA of not acting like an ally and smearing all Americans? The Liberty was friendly fire.
Friendly fire? Over two hour attack?
Must be thelongest such incident in history
No. The US sailors waved to the Israeli fighters as they flew low over the ship. The planes made several passes before beginning their attack. One of the Israeli pilots refused to fire on an ally and was sacked. Israel KNEW Liberty was a US Navy vessel. They nearly sank her anyway.
Israel attacked Liberty so that the US would blame the Arabs and Russia, and thus take a more active role in the war. Israel could have easily captured Liberty if they believed it was a hostile. After all, they captured a heavily armed Egyptian destroyer (renamed Haifa), and Liberty was nearly unarmed.
You mean the attack during the 6 days war where among the US Dead was a civilian NSA Agent?
I imagine there was some spying going on and being relayed to Israel’s detriment.
Israel put a stop to it
To Israel’s detriment? Please stop.
President Johnson authorized US spy planes to photograph the location of all Egyptian aircraft. and turned the information over to Israel so they could destroy the Egyptian air force. Although the US was supposed to be neutral, Johnson provided advanced weaponry, which was flown out if Germany.
Liberty was a botched false flag, nothing else. And Israel has invested a lot of effort in covering it up.
Why did the US ignore the murders of Jews in Hitler’s concentration camps?
And why did some American industrialists enable Hitler-IBM, Ford etc
Why did so many Jews willingly serve in the German army? (See Hitlers Jewish Soldiers, winner of the Colby Award). Why did so many Jews serve as kapos (trustees) in the concentration camps? Why were so few prosecuted after the war?
Lots of Holocaust questions remain unanswered, and probably never will be answered. But plenty of blame to go around
Death cult?
I have one thought. Interested in feedback.
If every Intel guy knows the US uses reporters to get FISA supporting evidence (feed the reporter info and reuse it to renew a FISA) … Then this Pegasus technique would be a great idea to.find out what US corrupt Intel was doing.
Can’t disagree with use of press and circular reporting.
But the good guys using Chinese spyware?
This whole thing stinks.
The Chinese and their enablers / partners …call them what you wish are the enemy.
Makes sense ty
Who are these good guys you speak of?
And the correct answer.
Hardware level vulnerabilities? For some reason this brings something to mind.
Reminds me too much of a tech company that knew about a design flaw with a series of their popular processors for a number of years and only fixed it when it was widely known.
If I remember correctly it was Intel and it concerned their Core series microprocessors going back a number of years prior.
Anything newer than a GM945 chipset (Core 2) has an Intel-built NSA backdoor. So, that means 2006-2007 was the start of evil doing.
Get a Dell Latitude D430 on ebay, but an SSD in it, and put Linux Mint 18 or so on it. Don’t do any update manager upgrades on the OS once it’s installed–you’ll end up with a trashed system.
Today’s a good day as any to get proficient with Linux.
At the least it would likely run better with a fraction of the overhead of Windows.
Never mind Windows being chocked full of adware and smart services. Effectively Spyware.
Ty
Why would they knowingly allow that vulnerability to continue until it was found out by someone else?
They were personally exploiting it?
Like Twitter ( every time u access a Twitter page is identifies your device ID and location); Amazon ( I’ve noticed a VPN does not work with them, they always know the exact location when asking about logins); Facebook etc..
If there was anyone exploiting that, it would have been the IC.
Domestic vs foreign IC’s? Doubt there is much distinction these days.
True.
They are building a break away society from us. All Intel agencies and their collaborators appear to be trying to submit the entire world to one ruler.
Yeah, THEM!
Ten kings supmitted to one beast, with one mind for one hour. Here it comes…
Interestingly, Apple and Amazon vehemently deny that there’s anything to this Bloomberg story.
There are people that’s been calling for it to be retracted for years. Bloomberg has been refusing. But they recently did follow up:
https://daringfireball.net/linked/2021/02/12/bloomberg-big-con
The original story sounds plausible to me. I’ve been wondering what Apple and Amazon’s motives are for denying that it’s true. My guess is that they’re in on it.
I think we are finding out we don’t have a free market, with CIA or Gov made companies posing as companies.
Israel is no more a single entity than the USA is. My bet is on one of those rabid leftists.
Good perspective
Yes, China has been selling “back door” electronics, including to the govt, for a long time. And has shipped virus-infected computer equipment and accessories to the US since at least the early 1990s (should be a law against this, no?).
See DOJ press release 11-1169. Chun-Yu Zhao sentenced to 60 months.
Her husband got away, unfortunately. But plenty more of their kind embedded in the US. Anybody interested? Nope.
Remember Obama stiffed Israel several times
And so did Kerry
Of course China is behind it
Would be more shocking if it was someone else
Unless it was the China and the Pentagon .
After all, it was the Pentagon that sent $39 million to help the CCP fund the enhanced function bio-weapon that was used against America and much of the rest of the world. .
Honestly I am beginning to believe more and more that our Elite Party has partnered with China to enrich themselves.
And China has purchased Elite Party whores from every country.
Nationalized purchasing of traitors.
Feinstein to rich ( for nothing)
Same with McConnel, Burr, amash, Pelosi, etc.
We have treason and we are scared to know what to do.
Sucking taxes out of us doesn’t pay Congress. Selling our liberty does.
Both sides probably think they’re using the other.
Clinton and Chinagate.
Again a bunch of posturing and grandstanding by Republicans then nothing.
Expand that a little further. Chinese leadership has reportedly met with all the local leaders in the US, small and large. We may be fully sold out.
Israel didn’t have to abandon us and support Biden so quickly.
Israel didn’t have to be the number 1 country vaccinating People ( of course they did it to monitor the diversity in their country).
Overall with Obama sleeping with Iran, and Biden giving Afghan to China for Iran energy pipeline, why wouldn’t Israel be the evilest spy ever to us.
Israel vaccinated a large percentage of their population just as other small nations did.
https://gizmodo.com/25-countries-with-the-best-covid-19-vaccination-rates-i-1847348351
Have you forgotten about the forced vaccinations on all citizens that will begin in Israel in the upcoming weeks?
China’s influence over Israel’s enemies? Bought and paid for with our secrets.
Israel is deeply riven by traitors, just like us? Fellow Mao worshippers like Obama’s entire government.
China scored some spies who betrayed Israel? Pollard comes to mind. or Ames. or Hansen. Money talks.
If we kill the databases. Does it end this all seeing eye addiction that is creating the lure that those with access can rule us all.
God’s.
I think this is a Pandora Box type issue. Short of an apocalyptic hell, not sure how we can eradicate all databases. Selling and abusing our information has turned this into a Pokémon Collector hell. Gotta collect and sell them all!
Suspicious cat is, well, suspicious.
Dominion, smartmatic, Pegasus, what next…very conceivable since our highly vaunted IC missed the first two.
Missed?
More like hand-installed!
Unit 8200?
Search for Project Pegasus on Telegram produces this channel in mostly asian text. Maybe you might find some info on there useful.
https://t.me/projectpega
Latest post:
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2021/07/world-leaders-potential-targets-of-nso-group-pegasus-spyware/
Yet Russia is always blamed for hacks on US computers. Google already tracks my phone for any government entity that may ask for info. I’m not the one selling State secrets.
As useful as computers and cell phones are, it may be time to ditch them.
Government would be reduced to paying attention to what TV shows I’ve watched and if I’ve renewed my car warranty.
Several things are making me consider the Freedom Phone (this Pegasus thing is just one of many):
Glowing reviews from (sponsor, admittedly) John Solomon and also from Jason Miller.
Steph, concerning the Freedom phone, wouldn’t that be a great way to get all conservatives on one network and monitor them?
How does one know who to trust and who is legitimate? Could be a three letter org op. Who knows but I wouldn’t put it past them. It’s definitely well funded. It popped up awfully quick
Yeah Toolkit, You are correct. The Freedom phone did come up pretty quick. Wonder who made the chips, motherboard etc.
PinePhone or other Linux based phones would be a safer bet. They are expensive, $1500. I am saving up to get one.
The NSA, Google, FB, all the banks, all the credit card companies, etc., spy on everyone 24/7/365. That’s no rabbit hole. China and Israel will just have to stand in line.
Would peer to peer devices end the middle man data collection bullshit we keep seeing abused over and over.
Fck terrorist. Blow something up and we blow your whole country up.
This stupidity of thinking the FBI can catch anyone has to stop. They catch US for being Americans
I’ve always worried about all the cranes at all our ports being built in China. What if they could turn them all off someday.
Hi Bill. The cranes as well as perhaps hundreds of other things vital to our economy.
Diplomatic immunity to diplomatic containers.
( Drugs, kids, etc)
Turn off the cranes? No, they just buy the ports.
Interesting info on NSO by Axios: “Private equity firm Francisco Partners bought NSO in 2014. At one point, both Francisco and NSO had future Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn on their payrolls.”
https://www.axios.com/nso-group-spying-investors-a85d7637-8468-4036-8133-3620f3571e26.html
To what end Israel and China ?
Hopefully it’s US Intel fighting for America against the junta, and framing china.
Hence the Guardian sends the alarm out to warn the conspirators.
According to a recent study by Tel Aviv University’s Institute for National Security Studies, from 2001 to 2018, annually, bilateral trade between the two countries soared from just over $1 billion to nearly $12b. (It has dipped slightly since – to just under $10b. last year – on account of pressure from the Trump administration.) This massive surge of capital, much of which has flowed into the country’s dynamic hi-tech sector…
https://m.jpost.com/opinion/why-has-china-turned-on-israel-opinion-672959
Seems credible they would have more than one attack vector.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies
“ Initial thoughts?”
Tel Aviv must release all the data it collected to the parties it spied on.
They sold this product to others, while Israel likely used it, their many customers probably used it a whole lot more, after all, it was supposed to be a poor man’s NSA. Though I do suspect that some of our many creeps used it too.
This is all getting too bizarre. We have to be nearing the End Times as foretold in the Bible.
If data can be extracted then perhaps it can be added.
This is the only way.
The data has no Good Purpose. Please name one.
Terrorist isn’t good enough. PDJT showed us how to kneel any country, including China! Using economic power
Sundance showed us how repeated searches of the NSA database produced a similitude of tracking targets.
Pegasus however provides any user literal real-time tracking and spying to the degree that it could support intricate ops and elaborate manipulation of subjects, no pesky FISAs or wiretaps, judges can be expensive to buy after all.
One initial thought. If China…then this also has new meaning
“A third country, Mexico, was home to nearly one-third of the numbers of the list, ” (Wapo August 2).
Fentanyl, Border, cartel (aka defacto CCP muscle) etc..
wittingly or unwittingly? Where are “our” super-duper intelligence agencies? Are they “in on it” or are they so incompetent, or so focused on the destruction of their political and ideological opponents that they don’t know about it?
Diversity hiring means they can deny a job to a patriotic minority, and instead hire a undeserving minority ( any person can be underserving, this is just to illustrate how sick people would do it) to be the fool to hack around.
My initial thoughts are that there is some connection between the CCP and globalists in general, where globalist concerns are either ‘using’ the CCP, or in concert with them, with regard to the great reset, destruction of western societies, global take-over, etc. If you correlate the advent of COVID with the final goal of the globalist’s new reset, then the relationship between these two entities is not a very big jump. Globalist criminals are everywhere, in just about every government worldwide. The interaction between the CCP and globalist concerns seems quite aligned.
Nobody is working/investigating/etc how to prevent the next ” fish market” virus from crippling us unexpectedly again.
This tells me 100% our gov was involved
This is EXTREMELY UNETHICAL for the FDA and CDC to be involved with Gates. There is no way government agencies should be allowed to take money from any outside source. We pay more than enough taxes to cover their expenses and now we have a nightmare with Fauci engaging in gain-of-function research. Fauci refuses to reveal that perhaps government money did not flow to Wuhan, but money diverted from Gates did. If that were true, then Gates with his financial interests tied to vaccines created the worst INSIDER TRADING scandal in modern history.-Armstrong Economics
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/govt-incompetence/end-private-donations-to-fda-cdc-now/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS
I worry that China has dozens of secret weapons and that we have none.
Well, not any more . . .
This makes complete sense —- and potentially explains unusual behavior.
Must get #s names and expose who has been compromised…
Could the Chinese intelligence services be undercover good guys? A global sting op to blow open the corruption of multiple western government intelligence agencies? Will we ever know?
Not. A. Chance.
Though they most assuredly profit from and exploit the corruption of multiple western government intelligence agencies.
Israel is crawling with rabid leftist who sympathize with communist aims and would love to see Israel turn communist. My first bet would be some super sympathetic leftist spewing out how Israel is a fascist state cooperating with China to bring Israel down because they hate their own country and get paid handsomely, just like in the USA.
At the time of the Monica Lewinsky scandal
editorialist William Safire said the scandal was mere distraction and that we should keep our eye on the ball, and the ball was China. He was right. This current issue has very deep roots. Sadly this country’s leaders have sold their souls and the country to the Chinese for many, many years. As Sundance repeatedly reminds us, there are trillions of dollars at stake.
Up is down and down is up.
Everything I grew up believing in was wrong. Allies are enemies. Benefactors are overlords.
Forget the rabbit hole, I feel like I’ve been shoved through the looking glass.
This story and it’s implications are dizzying.
Another reason why Trump was right to be wary of Huawei and 5g
Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive.
China has deep pockets and is in for the long haul.
China buys Joe Biden the presidency and pays to put President Trump “out to pasture”.
Is the NSO storyline a shock? No. That is the way business is done nowadays.
There are so many parallels to the Nazi rise in Germany. Back then big business supported fascism to stem communism.
Today fascism is in China, Russia, and the EU.
The political spectrum is a circle. Fascism and Communism depend on whether you have big business/oligarchs or state run business/oligarchs. Both ends of the political spectrum have joined as Facebook friends.
Sundance, not to be overly skeptical, but where is the evidence that the spyware originated in China?
Spyware is a f-ed up game where you cannot trust anyone. If Chinese authorship is possible, then it is even possible that a third country (or Israel itself) initially planted this within the CCP, who used it to plant it in Israel, which then propagated to other countries – all to benefit the actual country authoring the spyware (could be the US, Russia, Israel, India, UK…)
Tacking down the hard evidence here is next to impossible – unless you have access to a ton of data and resources.
Me – I have almost complete faith in the Israeli cyber defence folks; if you look at the security and encryption advances for the 30 years, you will see that Israeli scientists and US Jews have done the bulk of the work. Russians are pretty good too.
Apologies if you do have hard evidence.
Let’s talk reality. A small country the size of Israel needs a massive amount of money just to survive and an intelligence apparatus second to none.
Day to day life for them must spin around coming up with these necessities. What country or countries can help with money or technology, and how can I balance my obligations to GOD.
We must get funding from the United States, but I know the current president is a criminal. We can get some technology from China, but their government is criminal.
I know, and deeply respect, the Israeli people on many levels. I can not say, what is going on, based on this information, other than to say my belief is that Israel will end up doing the right thing, because they answer directly to GOD.
Initial thoughts?
My thoughts are that this spyware is not restricted to just exporting what is listed. With this capability, I suspect it can target any file on the phone.
Phones are used for many other things other than chatting, texting and taking pictures.
Israel should no longer receive one red cent of Americans tax dollars.
Mosad is as corrupt as any modern day intelligence agency or enemy of this country. they have also stolen from this country just like many others and should never be able to use our tax dollars to buy our military equipment
Thats the Point, it shouldn’t take a leak to get our Intel agencies to protect us.
How about $20 million a day?!
Would the “Goverments” purchas this type of software from a “China” source, or would they buy from a “Friendly” entity that was recommended by lets say Israel.
Brilliant move and a win -win by the CCP , get a part of the profits, get a “Fall Guy” and wind up wit access to millions of device surreptitiously.
We found that type of Trojans where placed into Radio Programing software that was specifically targeted to android devices to “Assist” in programing the radios and “quietly” provide “mama” with full control of the device, some of the software had the ability to “replicate” itself to other Android devices that where attached via WiFi to a network.
The only way to remove the the “Trojan” was to RESET to “factory”.
I find it interesting that many “Android” devices are available for LOW prices and many are being purchased.
This method would be a much easier method since the “Code” is Factory Burnt In.
I wonder who is subsidizing?
For along time, in the back of my peabrain, the nagging, slowly emerging message that just gets stronger and stronger is; I only trust fully patriotic, red blooded Americans that embody the values of freedom and responsibility.
We are under attack in so many different arenas and by so many enemies. Killer Cuomo comes to mind, the Chinese, the woke crowd.
Go Sundance! If anyone can figure it all out it is you but unless the entity is freedom for all, no trust.
Why are so many Americans pro Israel?
Just asking…
They are NOT
Gen 12:2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
Gen 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
Stay on this, Sundance. The plot is sickening, indeed. I would immediately pursue the Communist Party angle because this is exactly how they have operated in the stealing of technologies from American Companies. They are smiley faced definitions of evil. Never trust their motives.
It’s really difficult to learn that everything you thought you knew turned out to be wrong – I guess it’s like waking up in one of those battery pods in the matrix movie. Incidentally, NSA contributed ever so generously to software compilers. So, although you can read the opensource Linux code, you won’t really know for sure that there aren’t vulnerabilities introduced by the compiler that builds the code. This world has turned out to suck pretty bad, really.
How many Jews are in positions of high power in the US gov? Reading the pages here and on other politically based sites, I think we can agree there are many Jews in high positions in the US government. It seems most of them fall on the far left. I used to believe the term “liberal Jew” was a contradiction in terms. I was wrong about that. All of us Treepers rail against the “deep state”, yet they are rarely singled out by name. Isn’t it time we start taking names?
CCP – infected in everything.
CCP – at war with us. They don’t need troops or tanks. At least for now.
Gen. Douglas MacArthur was right, of course, based on the actions of the CCP.
In his 1964 book Gen. Douglas MacArthur (Gold Medal Books, Greenwich, Conn.), Bob Considine writes, “MacArthur’s final plan for winning the Korean War was outlined to this reporter in the course of an interview in 1954 on his 74th birthday. … ” “Of all the campaigns in my life—20 major ones to be exact—the one I felt the most sure of was the one I was deprived of waging properly. I could have won the war in Korea in a maximum of 10 days, once the campaign was under way, and with considerably fewer casualties than were suffered during the so-called truce period. It would have altered the course of history.”
The Nuclear Solution
“The enemy’s air would first have been taken out. I would have dropped between 30 to 50 tactical atomic bombs on his air bases and other depots strung across the neck of Manchuria from just across the Yalu at Antung (northwest tip of Korea) to the neighborhood of Hunchun (northeast tip of Korea near the border of the USSR).
“That many bombs would have more than done the job! Dropped under the cover of darkness, when his planes were in for the night, they would have destroyed his air force on the ground, wiped out his maintenance and his airmen. …
Link to Article
great article. thanks.
Our operating apparatus of our country is now under the control of the CCP…I’ve been saying this for months. They are at war with us and they are now winning.
They are absolutely winning. This is madness. It’s not one world government, it is Chinese World Government.
An Extinction-Level Event With Chinese Characteristics.
Regardless of who originated Pegasus, what do We, the People, do to determine whether or not we’re infected, and if so, how to get rid of it? I’d think Root-Kit scanning should detect it, but this is outside my area of expertise.
Israel has always been full of Leftists, which seemingly makes no sense, given Socialism/Communism’s hostility toward Jews since the 1848 Revolutions, but non-religious Jews have long been associated with Communist ideology, beginning with Herr Karl Marx himself.
Hence, no, I am not surprised that Israel has people who think Chinese Communism is just Peking Ducky!
Trust no one! Always look carefully at what is being offered!
“Trust, but verify!” – Ronald Reagan using a Russian proverb