It’s always there, right below the conservative veneer; and if you wait, it surfaces. This tweet highlights the difference between ‘conservative’ corporatism (traditional GOP class), and MAGA pragmatism (the blue collar dynamic).
The disconnect is found in the difference between what looks like a good ‘talking point’, and the reality of workers having to deal with the issue of mandated vaccinations in the workplace. Just quit your job… not so easy in practice.
The SD Governor seems to overlook that entire sectors of the economy are impacted by federal rules, not just individual companies. Hotel workers, restaurants, cooks and cleaners, mechanics, service industry writ large, are subject to forced business owner compliance with regulatory agencies. When the federal government initiates a mandate, all businesses within that sector are hit with the mandate. Switching jobs offers no security or escape from the mandate.
OSHA, the Dept. of Labor, the Dept. of Agriculture, and many other federal agencies create the system. All private sector businesses regulated by those agencies end up forced to adhere to those rules and regulations. Instead of targeting the solution on the employee, which to be fair does have some merit, leading political figures should be constructing their defense of workers by confronting the source of the underlying mandate; not the workers themselves.
Setting aside the reality that forced mandates for vaccination put the most vulnerable employee demographics in a position of agreeing to the jab or potentially losing the roof over their head; what MAGA voters understand better than the elites that fly above them – is their ability to think through consequences, because they have to actually live with them. MAGA people are smart, really smart, and they are pragmatic to the problems they face.
In some ways, pragmatism is on the opposite end of the continuum from ideological decision-making.
It is one thing to say, “defy the system” (ideologically), it is another thing entirely to actually carry through the process of defiance; when your ability to keep your family safe is contingent upon comfortable invisibility inside the same system.
Governor Noem approaches the issues faced from a top-down perspective. Someone like Donald J Trump has shown he understands the issues we face from a bottom up perspective; and that is entirely why the blue-collar working class has connected to him.
This tweet message makes sense for Noem, because she is surrounded by corporate insight, corporate donors and the corporate prism of politics; and that is how detached upper-management would look upon the challenge. Her suggestions ring true from the perspective of a “free trade” economic picture that exists in theory; however, that ‘free trade’ perspective has been destroyed by massive multinational corporations and government regulation.
The free-market economy is a great soundbite, but it doesn’t exist. There are now corporately controlled segments of the economy that work hand-in-glove with Washington DC through money and lobbyists. This is why buying paint (or anything) from Walmart was ok during the pandemic and “essential -vs- nonessential” lockdown, but buying paint from the local mom and pop hardware store was not allowed.
Wall Street -vs- Main Street.
Governor Kristi Noem is at her political core Wall Street (Koch Brothers etc.). Meanwhile, President Trump is at his political core Main Street.
Trump = Pure MAGA
DeSantis = Poltical MAGA
Noem = MagaLite with a twist of Koch and Corporate money
Haley = Anti-MAGA, pure corporate GOP establishment
Cruz = MAGA opportunism / splitter against MAGA
Thank you SD once again you offer a simple explanation how the decepticons work.
Coming on CTH has opened my eyes, once open they can’t be close to the TRUTH.
and she’s pro-trannies in girl’s sports.
Gnome’s statement is the monumental example of how a clueless, ignorant, effete “politician” understands the world that we live in. Can she really be that stupid?
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Great post, Sundance! Thank you!
Sure, just quit job. Get another. No consideration of the income, benefits and savings hit this might entail, or the impact on spouse, kids, schooling, commute, schedules, residence/relocation, resume/recommendations, divorce parenting plans… etc. etc. etc. because everyone is just an unskilled peon who can find something comparable else to do for low wages down the street…
5 minutes of truth about freedom
How do you define political Maga, Sundance?
(I.e Ron Desantis)
I think that Gov. Noem’s point is nonetheless valid – and, perfectly clear. If your employer is mandating that you be injected with a potion, find another employer who doesn’t.
Like all those people working on the pipeline who lost their jobs? Are they all back to work making the same high wages? How many of them have lost their savings, retirement, their homes, access to college for their children?
If you are a specialist contractor like a pipeline builder, your options are obviously more limited.
LOTS of people have limited options. Finding a different employer many times will precipitate a move. Moving’s not easy. Noem shouldn’t sound so cavalier about it.
Moving also makes people unrooted. Rootlessness makes normal people more vulnerable to falling into liberal degeneracy and dysfunction. Cultural self defense requires strong communities.
strong families -> strong communities -> strong country
This is why, even when their ultimate goal is to destroy European countries, the marxists attack the family first.
Noem’s solution is the best solution. It’s a pro freedom solution. If enough workers leave the employer, the employer may waive the vaccine requirement. Let the market decide, and keep leftist regulations out of everyone’s business.
If not taking the vax will make your family starve, then you don’t have the freedom to not take the vax. This is not the “pro freedom” solution at all.
Gov. DeSantis’s solution makes much more sense. Just ban vax mandates. That actually protects individual rights in the real world, not your libertarian fantasy land.
Not pro-freedom at all. Nobody has a right to DICTATE your medical treatments. Not even a doctor. Your body is under YOUR stewardship. Your employer is NOT YOUR DOCTOR.
Thank Biden for it, not the free market.
WTF.
They lost their savings not because the market failed them, but because the government killed their jobs.
That was forced, not voluntary. Apples and oranges.
Take an experimental drug for the flu or no job.
Her point is not valid, nor is it sane.
No employer or government should have such power.
You are exactly right. Nobody should be forced or coerced into taking an “experimental use authorization” drug. This drug has not been long term tested and it has not been approved by the FDA. From all the recent stories coming out, this thing is not doing what it is supposed to do and that is to prevent you from getting Covid-19.
Why is little attention being given to the spike protein in this concoction? Why aren’t people being more informed about ADE, the antibody dependent enhancement which, in essence, causes the bodies immune system to go into overdrive to kill all the body’s cells that now contain this spike protein produced from your initial vaccination.
Not all employers will mandate it. So her point is sane and valid. An employer should be able to hire vaccinated people if they want. And workers should be able to shop around and select an employer suitable for them.
Further, if employees are limited in their small town to a select group of employers, then employers are also limited in that small town for a select group of employees. It’s all about negotiations. And it works both ways. And both parties should be free to do what they want, sink or swim.
We don’t want American families to have to choose between poisoning themselves and “sinking”, though. That’s the point.
Your premise is false. That is not what they are choosing between. They are choosing between government regulations and freedom.
At their job, they are choosing between getting the vaccine and finding another job, which I would recommend you do anyways, about every 4 years. Alternately you could unionize and tell the employer all of you are leaving if they mandate the vaccine. Then they can fire you, or reconsider their options.
I’ve tried finding another job…wait til you’re 55+ and looking. Ageism in the workforce/H.R. is real. And they expect us to work til 67 for full retirement at S.S. that we paid into!
Currently, I do not believe that employers are allowed to discriminate based on medical conditions, which medications are being used, etc., as long as applicants are physically able to manage the job requirements. A persons, ALL persons personal health information is PRIVATE. Requiring employees to participate in a human trial is an infringement of their basic, constitutional freedom.
And there are plenty of other employers offering similar wages similar work that are located right next door? With that splendid new job available in 1-2 weeks? Ez pz?
Recommend getting off the decaf Mike
So true Buck T.
Noem makes it sound like someone in her state can quit their vaccine imposing job one day and find another job with a non-vax employer quickly.
Like you point out finding a new job before your last paycheck runs out and before you savings is gone and one where you do not have to either sell your own home or to try and get out of a rental contract.
Easy Peasy Noem?
I don’t think so.
two things come to mind here. 1) the flip side is, that if their workforce quits they too have to find replacements – also not so EZ PZ while forcing mandates; 2) perhaps the workforce should serve their employers with a letter of liability making them completely liable for any adverse health problems due to being forced to vaccinate. Finally, Article 1 of the Nuremburg Code clearly states that one cannot be forced to take ANY experimental drug without their consent. TO do so is a direct violation of established rules and law.
The letter you describe is available to download free here & there on the web. Recommended.
Then don’t live your life paycheck to paycheck, fools. Move out of the expensive house and into a trailer until you saved up some money to live debt free. Avoid debts people, and make rational decisions. Don’t buy an expensive SUV so you can drive 2 miles to work. Get off your fat ass and get on a $100 bicycle, that will help you feel better and lose weight. Don’t waste your money on $15 avocado toast. Buy some instant noodles and mix frozen vegetables and canned meat with it. Save your money. Save. Good lord.
Your employer wants to force you to poison yourself or lose your job? Don’t worry folks, Anonymous has the solution. Just anticipate this two years in advance and start feeding your children ramen noodles. That way you can build up some savings so you aren’t immediately destitute when they fire you.
Or, we could ban vax mandates.
That’s not what I said. I said live within your means. You want regulations for employers but not employees. It’s not a pro freedom solution.
Or, we could ban vax mandates.
Or you could get the vaccine. LOL. You are not entitled to a job from this employer. There are a hundred million other places you can work. Go work there. Or you could become an employer yourself, but something tells me you never intend to do that – ever.
Living within one’s means is easy to say and much more challenging to accomplish given that the cost of food, fuel, etc. is rapidly rising…
You are completely right, of course. BUT, consider how many ads we see every day to buy something. Everywhere you look, at the boob tube, in any written periodical, on the subway walls, billboards, on the radio, at the movies – for years this has been going on. Many Americans are so brainwashed they cannot think rationally!
If we all stopped buying stuff we could bring this economy to its knees. If we all refused the jab we could bring individual companies to their knees. The operative word is “all”.
Could this happen?
You want freedom for employees but not freedom for employers. I disagree with your endeavor.
Further, if employees are limited in their small town to a select group of employers (or one employer), then employers are also limited in that small town for a select group of employees. It’s all about negotiations. And it works both ways. And both parties should be free to do what they want, sink or swim.
We don’t want American families to sink. We’re more concerned with actual effects on actual human beings, rather than maintaining a pure libertarian ideology.
Freedom is worth more than a few people like yourself, who are not willing to look for a different job because of psychological reasons. I’m more concerned with actual effects of such government regulations on real human beings, rather than your left leaning ideology.
And they aren’t going to sink. They can look for another job if it is that important to them. And if enough of them look for another job, the employers might reconsider if a mandate is important to them.
TiredNLA had a good compromise below. If the Employer wants a mandate, then the employer can be responsible for the mandate. If they issue a mandate, then have them give to you in writing they will legally responsible for any adverse reactions you may have. That they are issuing a mandate – that is fair.
Or demand that they give you, in writing, the opportunity to be covered by said employer if there is any adverse reaction to the vaccine. No one else offers that in the law. Take responsibility for the reactions and they’ll take the shot, simple. That’s what the Fed law says when dealing with an emergency use authorization!
Even Big Pharma has no liability if you get sick or die from their Covid vaccines!
I think the better course of action would be walkouts. I’m sure some of the “vaxxed” consider it a personal choice and would join you.
Don’t wait for them to come for you, take it to them. They already have a worker shortage.
We The People have the power. Time to remind them.
If you think her point is still valid, it’s because you didn’t read or comprehend the rest of the article. If your industry is federally regulated, then you will not only have to quit your job, you will need to entirely change your career path, starting from square one, and hope to God the feds don’t crack down on your new career path.
In other words, it is not a valid point. Not even a little. Overreach is overreach.
Has Noem ever heard of the HIPPA act passed in 1996 that protects sensitive patient health information from being disclosed without the patient’s consent or knowledge? Do employers ask if you’ve had the Polio, Influenza, measles, smallpox, chickenpox, tuberculosis, etc., vaccines??? She wouldn’t stand up against men playing in women’s sports…now this!
Not the point. In a free society everyone makes their own personal health decisions…
Also in a free society, people can work with who they want to work with, and that includes vaccinated people.
No its not valid sheep. Ever heard of HIPPA? Your medical information is considered private. You must love Google where they want to know every little thing about you. She was wrong to say this…period. Real Americans know this is against everything America was built on. Take care.
Now is the time. Heck they will pay you to just apply here. Twelve bucks to start at a Taco Bell
Valid point in theory but not in reality for it mistakenly assumes every employer in your field will not require it and you will have options. The better approach is support prohibiting mandatory vaccines and passports as a condition of employment or receiving service.
To the left, there is ever only one employer who is oppressing them.
Maybe you should start your own company with no mandates.
Did you read the article?
Basically, this is Noem’s “learn to code” moment.
Sorry. It’s ILLEGAL to mandate these because they are EXPERIMENTAL. To do so violates federal law.
Oh well that did not go as planed! This guy on tweeter was redoing a riff on
Noem’s cuck tweet and I tried posting….The gist of it is there however.
Yep the only law in play today is the civil rights , and that only applies if you are progressive.
VICHY Government is installed and doing China’s bidding.
Watch us find out, Decades from now, that China hacked every secret society, and has been pretending to be Lucifer as it conveys orders.
Stupid elites!!!!
Pretending?
As a temporary measure for now, every freedom-loving government official should take the position that mandating an “emergency use” medicine is a criminal offense. That won’t stand up after the FDA approves the drug…coming soon, too soon.
Another option is to let the people vote on it.
4th Amendment to the Constitution states:
“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”
Mandating a jab removes the people’s right to be “secure in their persons.”
Employer’s aren’t mandating a jab. Because they can’t mandate anything. They are employers not the government. That said, people are not entitled to work for them. And they are welcome to start their own company and become an employer themselves.
Going against the grain here. Please listen because she is addressing real people like me here.
My office has a mandatory vaccine policy for going back to the office. I’m thinking about quitting if that stupid policy is still there by Nov. 1, because who likes to work for stupid people, right?
The worst would be if they just shrug it off and say “Oh well, Owen left. Big deal, we’ve got others.” The best would be if 10 of us quit and they said “Whoooa, maybe we’d better stop imposing our irrational fears on sane people”. But are those other 9 people going to be as bold as I am?
Fear of leaving the job and having to start another keeps 8 of those 10 in line. 2 won’t be noticed.
Noem is trying to neutralize that fear by pointing out that SD will have jobs aplenty. That is the absolute most effective place for her to go, to combat these mandates.
Noem is a hero who saved almost a million people from the 2020 worldwide debacle. She’s not going to turn into a zero overnight. Have some respect.
Nope sorry.
Not only is she a corporate shill and vax pusher she’s incredibly arrogant and condescending: telling people to lose 90% or their income or in the case of some industries (e.g., healthcare) their ability to ever practice their profession again is the advice of an entitled, privileged hack who lives in a taxpayer house and off taxpayer dollars and when out of office will be worth millions due to the access to taxpayer dollars she sold while in office.
I feel terrible for owen, not understanding that ‘ eventually your only place left to be employed will be at a Showering facility for unvaccinated.
Only sewing us in line going in, but never seeing us get clean or even ever see us again.
Think think think.
Don’t feel terrible for me. I’m just as concerned about the showers as you. I’m just saying that your strategy of undercutting one of the only 5-10 politicians in our country who’ve actually got your back, is NOT going to prevent the showers as well as Noem’s strategy will.
What are you going to do to stop the mandates? You can’t. Once the FDA approves, there’s no legal recourse left. Want to go revolt in the streets? Cops put you down, MSM puts you on TV as violent, you go to jail, the government starts their gun-confiscation within a week. ALL guns. Then the showers are only a couple years behind if they feel like having them.
Your only choice is for employees to vote with their feet, so that companies feel the pain ASAP. New companies sprout up all the time. The ones that eschew the woke crap are going to succeed and be growing. They’re not advertising yet because they’re slow learners. But they will.
Actually, if our politicians at the state level would pass laws banning vaccine mandates for employment or fining employers massively for asking for proof of vaccination this would end immediately. Don’t see the beauty queen trying to get that done…
this is the Sick Reality. I think NONE of them on our side, and we are having a HARD TIME accepting this reality. So we hold onto to hope, and get excited when they say anything remotely caring of us.
We arent tossing Noem. The article appears to be saying her FEET need to be monitored for proximity to our FIRE.
I find this “mandate” as offensive as requiring all persons beyond the age of 70 to be euthanized. It’s a medical procedure dictated by a small group of people who call themselves government. As soon as they think they have the power to do ANYTHING to you in the name of SAFETY, believe me, they will slam that club over your skull as often as they can.
Mandated medical procedures IS NOT THE SOLUTION TO ANY PROBLEM, let alone an experimental poisonous injection.
The answer should be a loud, unified NO from EVERYONE.
if the vaccine accidentally became a constant immune antagonizer, then the elderly issue is solved for the elites. Weak elderly are removed. Healthy Elderly can live as long as they want.
Remember… who is the
(P)resident’s health advisor? Why, its none other than the reprehensible wannabe diety Ezekiel Emmanuel. Yes, the same EE who has been vocal about what age
should be the cut off point for us all. I have come to believe all this ” must jab” push has as much to do with resolving the bankrupt Social Security and Medicare programs. Seniors just need to be “helped along”. They’ve reached EE’s proclamation age so they just need to go. And as I and my husband are of that age, that terrifies me. But we turn to our faith to sustain us against what might come. It’s our strongest, best weapon.
The presence of a conducting material, graphene, in the vaxxes – coupled with the newish discovery that magnetism is more effective than condoms in sterilizing reproductive-age males – tells us that Our Betters will simultaneously solve both the geezer and the high birthrate problems. Ain’t science grand.
Can’t help wondering if that is part of the plan…the vax serving double-duty as Euthanizer. It worked for Cuomo. Wondering how much money he saved with that move?
And they’re so concerned about “safety” that they’ve flung open the borders and will let anyone in, then fly them all over the US. No tests, no masks, no money. The state they drop them off at must them support them for life with their EVERY need. Wow. How did we get here.
That proves it is not a threat to them, they only want to hurt real Americans that value their freedom and realize what it cost millions in wars to preserve it. All pro vaxxers in power are cowardly, sell out traitors. I bet Fauci and all dems never got the vaccine. My healthy neice, after the vaccine, now has her whole immune system in a war against her. It’s just horrific.
How? By voting for demoncrats and RINOs.
Cough cough… right wing socialism… (say socialism in a slow russian accent.)
Sweet mother of God, I’m so tired of whiny workers who want to get employed, feel entitled, and then stay there for 60 years of their F lives, while making demands the whole way. Leave. Leave. And go do something else. Make your company in your own image, not make mine in yours. Employers (including you guys, if you ever grow a sliver of ambition), should be able to work with who they want to work with.
Respect, no, courtesy, maybe.
If she is pro forcing people to be injected she is evil
How about rallying the troops and protesting? Hospital workers in my state have been given until Sept. 1 to get the jab or they’ll be fired. They’ve been protesting like crazy. I hope it works! Good luck to you!
Merrywidow: would you happen to be in Idaho? I’ve been at all our healthcare protests here, 3-4 a week for the past few weeks. Well attended, and we’ve gotten very good response from commuters. Protests across the state, big and small.
BTW, some independent doctors’ offices not mandating the jab have reps going to the protests recruiting soon-to-unemployed nurses and other medical professionals. Smart move…..
No, she should issue an executive order barring vaccine mandates, and let them take her to court.
Noem is largely a failure as South Dakota’s governor. Her “conservatism” is a millimeter deep and two miles wide — in other words a complete facade. Remember Noem vetoing a bill which will not allow biological males to compete in women’s sports since her big corporate donors did not approve? Remember Noem not allowing South Dakota to opt out of the federal “refugee” program for the very same reason. Noem has no depth to her character and simply doesn’t care about the people of South Dakota or America. She is devoid of original thought. Noem is left of center RINO sellout who is simply incapable of leading South Dakota much less the USA!
When K.N first hit my radar by refusing to mandate closing down the People of S Dakota, I thought, “wow, this is my kind of governor” (living in Colorado with Polis makes it easy to look up). But time after time this initial impression slips lower and lower. This latest example of her missing the point–completely–takes her completely off my list.
Oops.
Kristi Noem also lobbied the state legislature in favor of giving the Department of Health the power to close all businesses in the state. It was only after she lost that battle that she came out against lockdowns and masks because the representatives of the people weren’t going to let it happen.
She’s a Swamp Creature through and through.
When PDJT was unseated, a lot of smart people stopped thinking this country could ever be saved, and they went back to the old program.
“Smart people”? Smart in what sense?
In her tweet, she’s told most of her constituents to F off.
Kristi Noem is not a RINO in the sense that you suggest. I hope she is an actual RINO since Republicans are as out of touch with reality as Democrats. Our movement missed a great opportunity to start a viable Third Party, ala the Tea Party, in America in 2015, thanks largely to DJT’s insistence that we work within the existing political structure. This was a MAJOR mistake. Sure we had a big win, but 5 years latter, for whatever reasons it was stolen by means that we should have anticipated and THE SWAMP water rushes back in….. All the gains have been reversed and instead of having a growing Third Party movement we are labeled as domestic extremists and worse and have only given strength to a Republican Party that will now ride to another mid-term victory on the backs of Patriots, only to begin a repeat of the grand illusion of reform. It is easy to talk a big game, but the reality of effecting real change is quite different. There seem to be plenty of Patriots talking, few but unwilling to sacrifice, unwilling to put real skin in the game, unwilling to stop things like vaccine mandates by refusing to comply and suffering the consequences, preferring instead to complain about no one doing anything about it and turning on our own.
Set the wish list to the side.
Now give me your reality list. And keep in mind the current reality we are in: Joe could announce unvaccinated are killing people and for national security they must be rounded up ( even then this country will not fight)
There is no reason to cast a vote for the Uniparty. They are our enemy… all of them.
This woman is totally tone deaf…How about YOU resign and go live in a tent in a homeless camp?
This woman must have led a sheltered life. At least she never had to face a situation where the Gov’t had complete control and even refusing to participate was either a waste of time or liable for a jail cell. (not counting having your family go without and wind up much worse off)
She is clueless. She’s from the same wing but a different feather than Haley. Noem is lacking in understanding reality and may be sincere but woefully uninformed, whereas Nikki understands the reality and is the on the wrong side for her own selfish reasons.
Neither one should ever be in a high office ever again. Regrettably that’s probably not going to happen. Too many out there licking their chops at having someone like Noem to spew out nonsense and push away voters.
“She’s from the same wing but a different feather than Haley.”
Yes, two Indians. Haley, dot. Noem, feather.
For those who haven’t looked here’s a synopsis (yes with bias) of her life so far.
High school. Became a pageant winner. Went to college and met her husband. Afterwards father died and she inherited the family business. Got some connections and ran for representative and the for governor.
Most all of her experience has been while living well off, few struggles of any sort, most of her good life has been handed to her or inherited. I would guess she has little understanding of how life is for those of lesser means. The struggle to just break even while up against so many people who have no trouble stomping on others for fun. She’s led a protected life with little hardship and is very naive. I would imagine she takes direction from those around her who have been a part of that pleasant ride as they also can bring her ride to a screeching halt if they wish. Someone you’d want for a mayor or even Governor in better more sane times. The country needs a scrapper and fighter a hero and not a beauty queen.
A choice no one should have to make.
OH and P.S. I do not want to see Sarah Palin running for office. She already came out with a “I deserve it” comment and show little change from her life after the VP race with McCain. She’s a nice person and a good conservative but she’s not who is needed to trade jabs with the enemy.
Her personal life is a rolling disaster Jerry-Springer style … never know when or who in her family will pop up next to torpedo her, and not a model of successful implementation of conservative principles.
Because your personal life is a dream? Pleeeez…
Sure. If I were 30 again. But at 62 with kids in school, a mortgage, and everything else, not so likely. I also don’t have a skill set that is easily transferable to other industries. I can count on both hands the number of companies in the world, let alone the USA that do what I do.
Of course I guess I could go beg at the country club like Kristi does.
Noem made a statement that sound very silly and irresponsible to the people of her state.
We all are watching the feds allow illegals to pour across the border and then they are shipped all over the US.
Now the Border Patrol and ICE are making pitiful effort to “screen and vaccine” all of them but it is not going well.
Those of us who work hard and for the most part make America great are forced to take this vax while non-citizen, non- working people are not.
“Just quit your job” is this woman nuts?
It’s easy to say if you’re employer doesn’t make such intrusive mandates. But if they do, then, especially in Biden’s economy…
Appearing Soon , the Kristi and Nikki show.
It’s astounding how GOP leaders have seemingly no fricken idea how to respond to fascism – they better read a book and quick before we all begin to “disappear”
Walmart, Netflix, Disney, Shak Shack… Any others?
I love what Gov. Noem did during the fauci plandemic but after that she’s lost me. The corporatist beauty queen is violating HIPPA, informed consent, the Helsisnki Accords and the Nuremberg Code by even suggesting that the experimental jab be normalized. She knows full well what the Biden Crime Family brownshirts plan on doing after their covid strike force home invasion. The data collected will most certainly lead to the unvaccinated being physically forced or removed to a showering facility.
She is right. Quit! And let them know why.
Having said that and having quit numerous jobs and getting better ones in my life, a few details are in order. Don’t say there are no jobs out there until you look.
At the first sign of mandates, you must update your resume and if you have a job skill that doesn’t need resumes, find an online job, any job, and fill out the application for practice. A resume light if you will. Doesn’t matter if you want the job or not, apply. If you end up with an interview and you really don’t want the job, it’s great practice with no let downs. Then tell your employer that the talk of mandates has forced you to start applying for other jobs. That is informing not threatening.
Second, don’t say yes or no to forced vax. Just say you’re really busy and you’ll schedule as soon as possible. If they bring shots into your office say, you only get shots at your doctors office. Delay, delay, delay, and actually look for a job. Never threaten to quit unless you have gotten another job offer.
I used to tell my employers “I am always keeping my eyes open for better jobs, so I hope we can always work out any issues so that I can continue to work here”. This is the job market now. Rarely does anyone stay at one company anymore. Your boss likely sends out resumes occasionally so why shouldn’t you? Keep an open mind about the jobs and you may find something totally different that you love.
This is what she meant to say but it’s not her job to lay out the details.
By the way, I’ve changed jobs 6 times, always got a raise, moved once, I have no degree, and I retired at 63 with more than enough to maintain my lifestyle.
Thanks for the hopeful (and pragmatic) outlook MNMike…much appreciated! God bless!
Noem should really think about the long term effects of her cavalier comments. She also recently stated, “Trump had his day in court” (re: election fraud). No he didn’t! Basically she was saying Trump should move on. She also thinks biological men should be able to play women’s sports at the college level. I used to think she was admirable for handling her state responsibly during Covid but I am no longer a fan. She has shot herself in the foot too many times.
Awesome article and spot on. MAGA has a high energy demand and high qualifications list that few can step into. Legally, no one can be forced to take an experimental vaccine, hard stop! 12,000 have died from this shot with current available data. No one knows anything about this liquid. Perhaps Dr. Malone. The inventor of Mrna. Also, no one has a right to know your personal health information. Stand your ground.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/nG3UKoceHb2K/
Sounds like a wonderful capitalistic entrepreneurial moment for those who want to support those who have no interest in the vaxx.
I prefer to look at this logically.
Are the pharmaceuticals liable for side effects?
No? Then they have no say-so.
Is the government liable for side effects?
No? Then they have no say-so.
Are employers liable for side effects?
No? Then they have no say-so.
If I’m expected to bear the liability for this “vaccine”, I should be the ONLY one with say-so.
The only chance businesses have of not complying with the Biden Regime’s Fascist Federal orders to force their employees to succumb to being lab rats for these dangerous experimental drugs, is for states to pass laws forbidding mandates and protecting the rights of citizens against this abuse of power by the Federal Government. Otherwise lawyers will have a field day with them. Fighting federal abuse of power is what our US Constitution was designed to do. Yes, there is the Nuremberg Code that forbids forcing humans to be experimented on against their will, and yes there are Federal laws requiring Informed Consent to be a part of a medical experiment. NONE of this is happening because legitimate information and concerns by doctors & research scientists about the risks and adverse results of these drugs are being censored from the public. NO ONE is receiving Informed Consent. But what good are our Constitutional laws when you have a DOJ that is comprised of Dirty Cop thugs and hoodlums, and whose sole job duties seem to consist of covering for the Democrat Crime Syndicate? By contrast, States can kick up a fuss, which is what we witness courageous patriot governors like DeSantis and Abbott doing. I wish we had many more like them rather than spineless GOP afraid of their own shadow, quietly selling out our Republic.
Noem is abdicating her role here. She often talks big like Lindsay Graham, but in the end does she do more to appease her corporate donors than be a champion of freedom, as she would like her voters to believe? The vaccine mandates have NOTHING to do with public safety. If the Biden regime cared about safety they would close the border, not be seeding the country with infected illegals in the dead of night. (Probably in mostly free Red states so he can inflate the case numbers) This is an experiment to see how much the masses can be controlled and manipulated in the effort to create a global Totalitarian government. Global corporations would love that as this would kill any competition and they could do whatever they want, without risking criminal injunctions for harming people or ‘annoying’ working conditions laws. Few would reap the benefits of their labor. By contrast, we would all be living like the worker-slaves in China.
I agree with Sundance that Noem knows how her bread is being buttered. I certainly hope she has an attitude shift on her laissez-faire view of vaccine mandates for the sake of the fine citizens of South Dakota.
Would be nice to see her tweet a jab against the Biden Administration with their horrible energy policies, inflation and open borders agenda than against her own State’s employees.
Just quit your job. That’s easy for this broad to say. It’s not so easy when people have families to support and bills that need to be paid without fail. Statements like just quit your job, just go to demonstrate, how disconnected from reality these worthless and useless politicians really are.
I once watched Gov. Noem give a speech about the inheritance tax and realized that she was lying by omission and was a politician with an agenda, after all.
The loud ideologues are the worst, because they must lie to themselves around the edges of their idealism, to camouflage the failings of their beliefs from themselves, before lying to us.
I can never again trust a politician.
If I never hear the word Noem or see that face again, it will be too soon.
Hey, Kristi: You go first, okay? Get the jab and report back to us in a few months, assuming you’re not paralyzed or suffering complications from a stroke. Jagoff.
Bad call, Governor.
Never trust this unit again least of all for national run. Worse yet, the S. Dakota is a TRIFECTA STATE with the gopes holding both the state HOUSE AND SENATE for over two (2) decades, yet couldn’t muster the votes to override Noem’s refusing to sign the Anti-Tranny legislation she steadfastly promised to sign. NCAA is it? How is it that other states had no problem passing what lying Noem ultimately vetoed? Aside from the fact the NCAA should never have been allowed to form in the first place, when has S. Dakota ever been a magnate for NCAA tournament anything? I’m no fan of Bill Mahr, but as he stated, this is a stupid country. Keep pushing frauds like Noem to the national stage along with the likes of Abbott here in Texas and guys like me and mine will be left with no recourse other than armed rebellion. The mood in my AoR is at this point and in a word (U)gly man. To a man, and more than a few women, we have NO illusions about what we may have to do. We dread it, but we have trained and prepared well. We will in the end prevail. We need every single Heartlander between the I-95 Acela corridor and the I-5 Lost Angeles – Seattle marxist autobahn to for once and for forever WAKE THE FK UP. As things continue to spin out of control you need to believe TRUMP IS NOT COMING TO SAVE ANYBODY. TRUMP will face exactly what he (WE) did 2016-2020 Jan. Bitch McConnell awaits and his Co-Cuck -R gope will likely be too or a facsimile thereof. Legislature majority coming back you say? Since WHEN has gope ever held anything in majority besides a meaningless count of ‘-R’s? Legislative To those of you sitting on your dead asses waiting on Trump you should cash in what’s left of your delusion and in about 3 weeks go right back to subsidizing your own demise worshiping the BLM-National Felony League while wearing your favorite team’s $90-$120. jersey. And with your little fingers tap off a donation to Ronna Romney McDaniel’s RNC on your “smart” phones. Come real Kinetics you’ll be lucky to last more than 4 weeks.
It’s been shown that when vaccines aren’t “perfect” they can result in more virulent strains being spread by the asymptomatic vaxed. Mandating vaccines is only going to make this epidemic worse. Now is the time to take a stand.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/tthis-chicken-vaccine-makes-virus-dangerous
Noem is a democRAT dressed up like a repube. Horrible individual
Meh, this is more accurate.
TRUMP: MAGA, but bent on suicide for his inability to assess Based allies along with his fetish for “ivy league” marxist assembly lines which ran shivs up his spine for five (5) years. Daughter Ivanka-co-Jared are NYC Ashkenazi leftists (worse kind) and close friends of Clinton idiot spawn Chelsea Clinton. TRUMP IS NOT COMING TO SAVE ANYBODY. Get it? DeSANTIS: Poli-MAGA yes, but somehow the proverbial other “shoe to drop” seems pending with Ron; NOEM: BLOWOUT FRAUD in vetoing major Anti-Tranny bill claiming “NCAA litigation” after promising hands down she’d sign it to protect vulnerable young American girls. Worse yet, SD is a Trifecta State for decades but less the balls to override Noem’s veto. Add that SD has NEVER been anything even remotely close to a NCAA tournament mecca to begin with. But now Noem is lauded for a national run for office? Screw that action baby. It’s ALL B.S. Let the S.D. gopEs, Noem, and Cock Bros. LLP Drop Dead along with N. Dakota’s CRAMER who actually stated he was GRATEFUL ASHLI BABBITT WAS SHOT DEAD. HALEY: Anti MAGA pure Uniparty gopE Fraud. Will likely piss away million$ of Ronna Romney/McDaniel sanctioned RNC money donated by those fkg stewpidt enough to actully send it to them for more failed Bitch McConnell-McCarthy backed 2024 bids ending in defeat/s with Haley claiming she’d be “the first Sikh whamin = X” or yet another “whamin of coleur” shtik winding up joining neocon Mega Cuck Paul Ryan at Fox where she’s offered a talking head contract alt cnn alt mslsd; TEDDIE CRUZ: NO balls wannabe MAGA lite (very) opportunist with HUGE factor of Cuck who exists to tell everyone how really really BAD schidt is but never does a fkg thing about any of it (patented gopE trait). Look for Teddie’s 2021 border visits to the RGV Sector in his next campaign commercials where he’ll look very very concerned. Lives in the Abyss of Cuck between the S. Carolina Boob Tim Scott and Utah’s Mike “Sneak in another H-1B” Lee. Many are STILL without a CLUE how treacherous the road is the Reckoning they will be completely unprepared for which now approaches with increasing velocity.
When your options are limited due to the needs of your family, what else is one supposed to do? I know, hop from job to job, putting your loved ones at risk of health, financial, and reasonable living arrangements . Single, not a problem, married, not so much.
The Luster fell off of Kristi the day she refused to sign the Bill banning males from women sports.. She said it would affect the sports in a negative, financial way — That was it for me..!
What an incredibly shallow and stupid thing to say. If every employer in your field requires a vaccine then you can’t just find another job. Moreover, the statement is not only callous but indicates she is not a champion against covid tyranny. She also caved on transgender sports issue.
De Santis is the only one who has stood up against covid tyranny. Not only is it the right position to take from am oral position, but it is good politically. Noem has been a disappointment. She is a typical weak non warrior type of Republican . She caved on the transgender in sports issues
Would she make the same statement if there was a federal mandate for all governors to be vaccinated as a condition of remaining governor ? What if I said to her if you don’t want to get vaccinated Governor, you can always run for a different or lesser office in your state or get a private sector? Do you really think she would support the same principle if it applied to her job?
Trump/DeSantis 2024
My mother was a wise woman. She taught us critical thinking skills starting at a young age. One of her favorites was “if someone told you to jump off the George Washington bridge, would you jump?”
Jumping meant certain death upon impact with the water below or one would drown if the impact didn’t kill you.
Let’s ask a simple question. What would you do if someone told you to get an experimental drug that 1) does not reduce one’s risk of death, 2) prevent infection or 3) provide long term immunity from a disease with little risk of death with many available and inexpensive therapies?
What if the experimental drug wasn’t properly being monitored for effectiveness and safety, and it carried the potential for significant adverse events including death, myocarditis, heart attack, blood clotting, miscarriage, permanent neurological damage and likely negatively impacts your immune system’s ability to fight a targeted disease?
What if the by-product of the experimental gene therapy drug was shown to be cytotoxic and some whistleblowers and reports suggest that unlisted ingredients known as “trade secrets” are known poisons?
What if you already had the disease and had stronger immunity to the disease than offered by the experimental drug. What if the experimental drug decreased your natural immunity gained from the prior infection?
How about if you would be: 1) fired, 2) unable to work and make an income, 3) unable to shop, 4) unable to bank, 5) unable to travel, 6) unable to pay one’s bills, 7) communication censored by media, business and government, 8) tracked and targeted by a totalitarian government regime and 9) unable to freely participate in society?
All of this for taking a non-safety tested experimental drug where the manufacturer accepts no risk, while knowing that the evidence suggests the EUA doesn’t effectively provide even mid-term protection at best, may cause one to get the disease more easily and likely makes those “injected” a reservoir of disease that is spread to others?
It appears there are over 160 million people in the US that failed the critical thinking skill test?
For extra credit. What would one call the person or people that told you to take it?
Some people have worked for companies 15 or 20 years, have invested in all sorts of savings plans, have pensions, etc. Governor Noem saying in effect, “oh ,la, just quit your job,” is a specious argument and seems to come from a place of a complete lack of understanding for the facts of life of real working people. WTH?! One has “the option to find a new employer….”! Really? If a person has invested much of their life in a career, built relationships and expertise in a job, or has financial obligations that cost mon-ey that will not necessarily be provided in a new position, it is not so easy. What is this woman thinking?
The problem is many thousands of people have dropped dead with some days of being jabbed, so allowing that to happen to you can cost you your life or your quality of life. See the site “1000 COVID Stories”. That’s an eye opener for sure.
Maybe a lower standard of living is better than taking the risk. I don’t know!!!
Noem should quit her job since she isn’t willing to do it. How about prosecuting the mandators.