It’s always there, right below the conservative veneer; and if you wait, it surfaces. This tweet highlights the difference between ‘conservative’ corporatism (traditional GOP class), and MAGA pragmatism (the blue collar dynamic).

The disconnect is found in the difference between what looks like a good ‘talking point’, and the reality of workers having to deal with the issue of mandated vaccinations in the workplace. Just quit your job… not so easy in practice.
The SD Governor seems to overlook that entire sectors of the economy are impacted by federal rules, not just individual companies. Hotel workers, restaurants, cooks and cleaners, mechanics, service industry writ large, are subject to forced business owner compliance with regulatory agencies. When the federal government initiates a mandate, all businesses within that sector are hit with the mandate. Switching jobs offers no security or escape from the mandate.
OSHA, the Dept. of Labor, the Dept. of Agriculture, and many other federal agencies create the system. All private sector businesses regulated by those agencies end up forced to adhere to those rules and regulations. Instead of targeting the solution on the employee, which to be fair does have some merit, leading political figures should be constructing their defense of workers by confronting the source of the underlying mandate; not the workers themselves.
Setting aside the reality that forced mandates for vaccination put the most vulnerable employee demographics in a position of agreeing to the jab or potentially losing the roof over their head; what MAGA voters understand better than the elites that fly above them – is their ability to think through consequences, because they have to actually live with them. MAGA people are smart, really smart, and they are pragmatic to the problems they face.
In some ways, pragmatism is on the opposite end of the continuum from ideological decision-making.
It is one thing to say, “defy the system” (ideologically), it is another thing entirely to actually carry through the process of defiance; when your ability to keep your family safe is contingent upon comfortable invisibility inside the same system.
Governor Noem approaches the issues faced from a top-down perspective. Someone like Donald J Trump has shown he understands the issues we face from a bottom up perspective; and that is entirely why the blue-collar working class has connected to him.
This tweet message makes sense for Noem, because she is surrounded by corporate insight, corporate donors and the corporate prism of politics; and that is how detached upper-management would look upon the challenge. Her suggestions ring true from the perspective of a “free trade” economic picture that exists in theory; however, that ‘free trade’ perspective has been destroyed by massive multinational corporations and government regulation.
The free-market economy is a great soundbite, but it doesn’t exist. There are now corporately controlled segments of the economy that work hand-in-glove with Washington DC through money and lobbyists. This is why buying paint (or anything) from Walmart was ok during the pandemic and “essential -vs- nonessential” lockdown, but buying paint from the local mom and pop hardware store was not allowed.
Wall Street -vs- Main Street.
Governor Kristi Noem is at her political core Wall Street (Koch Brothers etc.). Meanwhile, President Trump is at his political core Main Street.

Trump = Pure MAGA
DeSantis = Poltical MAGA
Noem = MagaLite with a twist of Koch and Corporate money
Haley = Anti-MAGA, pure corporate GOP establishment
Cruz = MAGA opportunism / splitter against MAGA
About as easy as the people here that say move or homeschool, if you can’t afford to quit.
What amazes me is that so many people are acting like this vaccine will prevent you from getting the virus. Look at the numbers Sundance posted yesterday as well as Israel’s that came out. I thought we all understood it only might suppress the worst symptoms and said so by the manufacturers’ papers.
Does anyone have that page? I believe I had bookmarked it but I have so many bookmarks under this category, it’s hard to sort out. Don’t know if someone might have that handy.
Is anyone calling out Noem on the legality of this? I don’t know of any employer asking for my vaccination records prior to this, or my husband’s. This is still an experimental vaccine with a ton of side effects in which the amount of incidents of debilitation and death is such that the vaccines should be pulled according to historical standards.
So, next week supposedly, our Excellent Leaders are going to declare it’s no longer experimental. Voila! And just like that ALL the problems go away. Or not. Side effects? Well if you want to make a cake you have to break a few eggs. Cake. Bread. Whatever, peasant. They don’t care. They REALLY don’t care.
So if the mRNA jabs are no longer experimental, will the the pharmaceutical companies that produce them then be held liable for malfeasance?
No, FDA approval will give them preemption from liability.
And I think that by changing it’s status, mandates become legal. How convenient.
I honestly am wondering what’s the rubber stamp hold up??
You have NO idea how right you are–the Ruling Class really, REALLY does not care about us–they detest us. If they could (and they very well might) reduce our numbers by half or more, they would.
The Ruling Class no longer needs a vibrant middle class to fuel the economy they plan on running. They only need a small, technical / managerial class to do the things the drones that are being smuggled in by the millions cannot do. But those technical / managerial jobs doe not require large numbers, thus the Ruling Class must cull the herd–and they are!!!
We are ” useless eaters “to them . It’s like having Jack the ripper in charge of your health care. ?
Once it is no longer “trial”, adverse events will no longer be reported. Not that they were complete, accurate or honestly reported before, but it will be much more difficult now.
Great questions.
Time to save that list
I know a sudden death case as well so please consider what you do carefully people
Do your own research and we need to figure out how to get massive lawyering up for the people
This is life and death these crooks are playing with
There are a lot of conditions where you are playing with fire if you overload on vaccines anyway
Example: have you had a bad or life threatening reaction to a flu vaccine in the past?
WTF you can’t get an exception?
There have to be EXCEPTIONS
The word “vaccine” has been hijacked and twisted around to mean something else. It is a form of lying to get people to accept it.
They couldn’t have sold these injections by being honest about them.
I have been vaccinated enough in my lifetime, don’t need nor want any more! At 71, they can take that jab and shove it where the sun don’t shine, sideways!!! I still work and will walk away from my job if need be! God gave me a damn fine immune system and I’ll use it to the maxx!
Don’t equate intelligence or competence with intention.
Robust economy???? And…job openings???? Yeah, signs are everywhere at restaurants/fast-food. The one’s who are still open.
If you have a fairly high paying job then what is the choice?? I’m still scratching my head at the “robust economy” statement. I would love to have a debate on that issue with her.
We have many brands of freaks in the RINOcerous wing of the UniParty
There are the melting face Mitches but then on the other side these uncanny valley types that look like some kind of bizarre blow up doll. Or Ken Doll. Mitt Romney looks like a dark plastic version of Max Headroom, that male model looking weirdo the VP of GA (and gov Newsome has the same freak look).
Blank eyed Kristi has it. Uncanny valley weird look.
Notice how authentic sexy women end up being actual Conservatives like Mama Bear Palin. She was a beauty queen but for governing and being a mom had the beautiful authentic look. And her husband, wow is all I’ll say.
Anyway, look out for the zeros who want to cheat their way to the top like Melting Jaw Mitch but these weird doll hair men and women that spend too much time on appearance in a way that looks disturbingly blank doll eyed and like they’re auditioning for a vapid news reader are a new “tell.”
Like how they overdo the make up on a vampire or robot replacement are a visual warning in a B movie.
Well, life is now a bad poorly written Hollyweird movie so watch out for these robot looking people.
Also, her emotions don’t come through right when she speaks. You have to watch sometime. It freaks me out.
It’s like a snake or undomesticated cat like stare with the emotions not coming through. Weird!
They all have it. Some kind of sociopathic thing. You should be able to see a person’s eyes when they speak and have half the communication come through. They had to try to teach Mitt and Al Gore to look like they had human emotions which failed miserably if you recall. Someone missed the training on Kristi too.
Bizarre blank eyed staring predator with a LOT of pancake makeup.
Its called demon possession.
ROTFL
A lot of the GOPers have that look. There is nothing behind the eyes, yet they are talking and saying the right things but it doesn’t reach their eyes. They don’t believe what they say, nor do they feel the need to convince us.
You hit the nail on the head. That is IT! Ech. So true. Creepy lying demons.
Like talking to a potted “Plant” ???
Well said
Its called DID. Disassociated identity disorder. One day she is herself the next day she is an atomoton. Biblical called. Demon possed.
The tale is in the eyes.
Pixels and Paint, make ’em what they ain’t!
“…but these weird doll hair men and women that spend too much time on appearance in a way that looks disturbingly blank doll eyed and like they’re auditioning for a vapid news reader are a new “tell.”
Back in the 60s we called them plastic.
Pod people??
I love the summary at the end.
Interesting, so De Santis is political MAGA
Is Matt Gaetz too? That’s how I see him.
Which I’m fine with by the way, come bet on us. Just never, ever betray the people and your country is all I ask. If you want to make your career standing up for the people and never letting us down that I can work with.
Don’t be fooled by Matt Gaetz either. He has a lot of lobbyist friends and is all about money.
And yes, DeSantis won’t do a forensic audit nor does he ever admit there was a possibility of fraud here in Florida. He just says he did it right. Democrats are already fixing that problem now. They just have to do it quicker here in Florida.
He probably will regret not doing that forensic audit after the 22 elections but by then it will be too late.
It’s not called the Stupid Party for nothing….
This is more treacherous than “stupid”. They are being “deliberate”.
GOPe/Rino’s/RNC doesn’t really like us.
That’s the end of her.
Love you, Sundance, but think you are doing a disservice here. Will need more proof than the parsing of one statement to toss Gov Kristi to the curb. When I see President Trump distance himself from her I will rethink but for now I’m not willing to back away from this MAGA Champ.
So anyone care to comment on why the postal union got out in front and are able to say no forced vax for us.?
Plenty of other states have too.
Good point.
Noem is a big pharma paid fraud unless she says no vaccine mandates by EXECUTIVE ORDER
She has that power
She’s instead saying quit your job and lump it rubes
I agree with you and SD, you are right
IMHO
Absolutely CAN and MUST issue an EO saying NO vaccine mandates in ND
What’s the worst that can happen, it gets shot down?
Issue your EO blank predator robot eyed Kristi
She never issued any mandates! Told the people of her state the facts and let them make up their own mind. I believe that is a principal of MAGA. Am I wrong?
I love Sundance But I be DAM*ED if I blindly follow any one. That’s what got us where we are!
Show me where I am wrong. I can be persuaded.
she heard : no black people allowed in that business. she replied: if you dont like it, quit.
and you are blindly following Noem. a woman that just showed you her mask slip. pretend you didn’t see it, and stay in the cage. Watership Down.
So you believe in mandates and Government interfering in our business and personal lives. Just not this time because you don’t agree in this particular set. But if you agreed they would be ok. Hmmm…
Think I see your point
we do not have companies any more.
any company that survived last year is heavily wounded.
there is no “business” for government to interfere in… they are already in control of ALL BUSINESS.
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the article is most likely saying PLEASE WAKE UP NOW, so we dont have to go through this same shit again with another politician.
For one thing it takes power away from union leaders to negotiate terms and conditions.
But mostly, no one likes to be bossed around, especially on a life and death medical decision. Even a lot of Democrats.
That’s easy.
That was the signal for the Biden clowns to sit down and bring a big bag of money to appease the bosses. Very obvious way of saying, they will agree, but not until they get paid.
You think the other unions aren’t looking at the Teachers Union and seeing their sweet deal. Everyone wants a piece of that pie. At least the union leadership does
as soon as the Union leaders negotiate the payoff
the no will become a yes
its all about the money
It always is. Sadly. This one pretty close to the surface. I bet if we could see how much and to whom these contracts go to for the churches and nonprofits for each illegal border crosser I am sure we would all be disgusted. And who is holding anyone accountable for the tallies
Exactly
Look her votes up, you might be amazed at what you see. She is a rino, likes and votes for more HB1 visas, is a globalist, and like someone else said a big pharma supporter. She is a fake so do your research on candidates please. We have enough illegal immigrants taking American jobs, especially now, so no, we don’t need her.
She vetoed a bill banning transgender in sports, especially women’s.
There was this too:
https://rapidcityjournal.com/news/local/noem-thune-and-johnson-attend-president-bidens-inauguration/article_9f2cb059-f1a4-5986-8147-f1cc94f005df.html
‘Noem, Thune and Johnson attend President Biden’s inauguration‘
“Congratulations to President Biden and Vice President Harris on your inauguration today…thankful for my @SitkaGear gloves! Brrr…cold and it snowed! ?? pic.twitter.com/t0wFmVqaCA
— Governor Kristi Noem (@govkristinoem) January 20, 2021
“President Trump deserved his day in court — the same opportunity afforded to Al Gore. President Trump got that opportunity, and today, Joe Biden was sworn in as the 46th President,” said Noem spokesman Ian Fury.”
Where did President Trump get his day in court????! His case was never heard!
Lord, that’s bad. She is intelligent enough to know that’s a big ass lie. He never got a day, even an hour in court. Partying with Joe too? I had forgotten that one. ?
Tom- PDJT needs allies – he won’t distance himself from her ever because it won’t ever be needed-
She follows everything DESANTIS does after he does it and usually in a watered down version while cutting down DESANTIS-
Pay attention – not a one time statement at all- I’ve been HUGE NOEM fan for 18 months not for last 3 – pay attention the truth has been revealed
Noem was Boehner’s little (bitch) when she was in the House.
A leopard doesn’t change its spots.
Pay attention !
I’ve got a long memory.
Noem is just as avaricious as Kommie-la.
Name calling? Thought only Dems did that
As I recall Florida was locked down for awhile. Not as tight as most but to some level. SD had no Governor mandates at any point. Not sure your leader follower model holds.
Would need a lot more background on “Big Pharma” and “Koch” connection to Gov Noem that is being implied in this thread. May be but I haven’t seen it.
Sundance’s political radar is broad, deep and preternaturally acute.
I would never bet against him.
Tom, I never saw where Sundance said throw her to the curb. I have never felt he has suggested that I do anything of the such. But he does remind me to to keep “Eyes Wide Open!” That is a need for many!
Similar disapprobation was meted out to Nunes recently, as well.
If Pragmatism is your standard, you cannot afford to be too choosy about your political bedfellows.
For my part, the pejorative “N” word applies mostly to Nanzi these days with Noem and Nunes getting a free pass.
If 20% of the population of Pierre or Sioux Falls, South Dakota, decided to “Just quit” it may be possible to find another job.
If 20% of the population of South Dakota decide to “Just quit”…
Not so much
The overall unemployment rate in South Dakota may be 3% but, the opportunity to find employment is a local matter.
With the exception of Pierre and Sioux Falls, South Dakota has no major cities.
The remaining “Population centers” are miniscule by comparison; as is the “Commercial Base”.
LOOK AT A MAP showing the cities of South Dakota!!
Out of touch does not even begin to describe Noem.
Callous seems more appropo.
How much “POWER” do those living in “White River, SD” have?
Redfield?
Tripp?
Belvidere?
How far would a resident of Winner, South Dakota, have to travel (in the best of circumstances) to “Find Work”
Imagine making that commute in January….
Just IMAGINE!!!
Just how many South Dakotans has Govenor Noem thrown under the bus!?!
Imho, MOST OF THEM!!
The way I see it, Noem is the Govenor of the Special Interests…
Tyrant to the masses…
Prove me wrong
While I agree with your basic premise, Rapid City is relatively decent sized and with the excepttion of Sioux Falls, considerably bigger than any of the places you mentioned, including Pierre.
I agree, crewdog 52…
However, Rapid City has Ellsworth Air Force Base right next door, and summer tourism (Mount Rushmore, Sturgis rally, Bad Lands, etc) to prop up its economy. (I once lived there)
Sioux Falls (opposite end of the state from RC) is situated at the junction of two major interstates and has the surrounding areas in Minnesota/Iowa to help support it’s economy.
Pierre, being the capital, has an economy supported more by government than by population.
The rest of South Dakota, imho, can not survive mandates those three cities might; and most certainly can not as easily just “Up and Quit”.
Depends on what one considers “Impactful”.
In a previous life, I was a Professional Truch driver.
Often, during the winter months, I would haul flour from North/South Dakota to a warehouse in the L.A. area.
The warehouse supported bakeries which made bread for “Social Services”
(Food Banks) in the area.
What if a major company (which makes up a substantial portion of the grain elevator/flour mills business – in North/South Dakota) required the (Grain/Mill) companies to be vaxxed in order to continue doing business?
What if 20% of those working in the (Grain/Mill) companies refused to be vaxxed?
What if the drop in production of flour resulted in no flour for the “Food Banks”?
Would the “Folks” in L.A., who depend on that “Bread”, think that was “Impactful”?
Perhaps, the “Folks” in Pierre, South Dakota may not…
However, I can assure you, those frequenting the “Food Banks” in L.A. would.
Impactful…
Is a relative term…
And the 20% number is huge. It only takes a handful of key personnel to leave to bring an organization to it’s knees. The more skill/craftsmanship driven the more vulnerable. Think manufacturing.
” Just quit your job… not so easy in practice.”
Lots of things, most things, are not so easy in practice. Taking a barely seaworthy wooden ship thousands of mile across the Atlantic was far less easy in practice. Winning the Revolutionary War was not so easy in practice. Especially if you didn’t even have shoes. Winning WWII against the Nazis was far less easy in practice. I mean the German Nazis, not the Democrat Party Nazis. We seem to be losing that war. Especially if we keep throwing or own overboard. .The examples are almost endless. In my life I quite about a dozen jobs. Far easier, actually not difficult at all, than so many other things.
“Are we men or are we mice? Someone throw out some cheese and we’ll find out.”
So what is Kristie Noem’s crime? That she doesn’t have a low opinion of people who love liberty? That she doesn’t think people who love liberty only love it if it’s real easy?
Her job is to fight for our Rights, not make excuses for the Boardroom.
She failed her job.
Well said
Someone has a bizarro dictionary where “mandatory” polsionous injections into your body for a mild cold to make the 6 new vaccine billionaires more money in exchange for your pay off = “freedom”
–You sound like you haven’t been in the job market for a long time so if you don’t think it’s a big deal to try to choose between your home, and risking your life or hit the streets in a depression with VERY unstable Alzheimer puppets in powe
–Kinda out of step. Try thinking about others like your own family who aren’t retired migrant workers.
–When a poltiician works for big pharma, not the people, they are a CROOK
–That’s actually a literal crime when we had a justice system
Regulation Nation is BACK. I see it everywhere. President TRUMP tried so hard to bring the levels down.
And the laziness on behalf of gubt employees everywhere who do not want to do their jobs, unless they are part of demonizing American entrepreneurs and their workforce. That they will do.
I meant to include this:
Also, don’t forget these words from Delusional Joe, “you sure as hell can learn to program“.
While true for some, it is not true for all.
Thank you, thank you. Pretty darn awesome!
“Hi, I’m pretty and rich, and haven’t had a real job or employer-based insurance or retirement benefits in ages. So I can say stupid things like ‘just quit your job and find another one’ without even THINKING about location or forfeited benefits or that maybe you otherwise like your current job. But, hey, aren’t my eyes really pretty???” Kristi Numbnuts.
Noem lays out the truth of the matter, and I’m sorry it is not what you want to hear. You can 1) change jobs 2) change your lifestyle to live on significantly less or 3) sue the employer. Quit looking to the government for your answers.
Noem just told us she doesn’t give 2 shits about a individual’s rights
and corporations rights come first!
another Rino pile of dung!!
She told you the truth old dude and you can’t handle it. State Legislatures have the power to make mandates unlawful, but the Governor can’t do it alone.
Is she demanding the legislature do that and leading such a charge?
Didn’t think so.
Total clown comment. We don’t need answers, we know the answers.
No…..don’t quit your job…..Do some research and find out what’s legal and what’s illegal…Find like minded people in your company and collectively force them to respect your rights and be legal…..
Note that the postal workers (union) and the SEIU don’t seem to be under a forced “jab” orders…..probably all government unions will be exempted…..
Time is on your side……what’s mandatory today……will change many times over time…..Like why did pedo joe and many corporate weiners give October as the mandatory vaccine date…..
They’re going to have a lot more things to do by October…..that vaccines will be the last thing on their minds.
Will you please drink a glass of water that is only 1% Strychnine and get back to us?
It’s when you fail on things like killing us with a blood clot poison (and I know a victim) or making us jobless, or stealing our country and our votes that you become a useless UniParty shill working for the overlords
So his flaw was doing what the people asked and being lied to by corrupted scientists? He tried. And if he hadn’t been vote stolen then that vaccine would be optional and we’d end the lockdowns because everyone who wanted scamzine could have it and those who don’t wouldn’t. So that’s not even a flaw. Lefties would have had scamzine.
But the whole premise doesn’t fly.
It’s pretty hard to call Trump a sinless virginal perfect one. Meaning that’s not the test, is it? Meaning that’s a straw man argument since nobody was ever looking for that. Conservatives have a God, and aren’t looking for another.
Great men all have flaws and that’s expected.
Some bridges too far though are DON’T BETRAY THE COUNTRY and DON’T TAKE OUR FREEDOM
Yes, you betray us once like the Rosenbergs it’s enough actually. One time betrayal is once too many when our lives, freedom, bodies, ability to survive a falsely deflated economy and country and so forth are at stake.
The biggies.
Let’s presume you have a wife. She can be moody on occasion, no biggie.
But can she kill one child? To profit?
How many times does your wife get to stab you with a poison?
Or have carnal experiences with your brother?
The “he’s with us whatever per cent” line is only used by the scammers.
I think the MAGA movement is pretty clear eyed about what we need and that’s why the overlords don’t want us to have a voice and communication.
If she won’t protect the people against the cabals she IS the problem.
Unitraitor
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But I do want to say thanks for the reminder I don’t think I saw the last rally and would love a link if there is one.
Sounds like it was fun, thank you for posting that.
Your logic is tough. But correct.
Noem’s constituents probably appreciate the dozens of times Noem has taken the MAGA-correct position on individual issues and matters that crop up, and continues traditional American values.
But it’s that one time when a MAGA-lite leader like Noem departs from the MAGA platform on a serious critical issue for millions of working class families, and throws her working class constituency to the increasingly anti-American corporate fascist wolves, that she reveals her true character.
Bingo!
Knew there was a “But” coming. You and I are usually in lock step and I think we are still on the same page just not the same stanza in the hymnal. If the Vax protest is a core principal then come hell and high water no one is sticking that needle in your arm. Change jobs, eat beans if I must but NO jab!
Now comes my “BUT”!
But if “no jab” isn’t that important then by all means bitch, piss and moan all the way to the jab.
I believe the economy is strong enough in South Dakota thanks to her policies that alternatives exist.
By the by, my friend, would like to know what put the burr under Sundance’s saddle on this one. This comment was just too insignificant for this broadside. My opinion!
because many people we care about are not ready to fight, or take a stand. I wouldnt want them to have to face this nightmare.
Nightmare of having to get injected with something that has been manipulated since the election, or job hunt in an economy that consist only of megamonopoly shell companies.
the majority of this world’s population has a clue how there is ‘very little difference’ between playing God and doing what God did when you are at the code level.= (genetic, translate, protein)
Here’s a link:
Video Archives – Right Side Broadcasting Network (RSBN) (rsbnetwork.com)
Scroll down and open:
PRESIDENT TRUMP SPEAKS AT ‘RALLY TO PROTECT OUR ELECTIONS’ IN PHOENIX, AZ
If you have Right Side Broadcasting Network (RSBN) on ROKU tv, you can scroll down to a category of “Latest Trump Speeches and Rallies” also “Trump Rallies 2016-2020” plus CPAC speeches, interviews, and other events featuring other MAGA people.
The crowd doesn’t like it when he does.
the corrupt DC swamp found a work around the First Amendment by threatening the democommitfascist arse kisser CEOs/owners of social media to take down information the feds deem misinformation.
Now the vile feds have another work around of our Constitutional rights……………get their corporate arse kissers to force the covid vaccine.
It is time for a nationwide strike. A few million need to have a sick day on the same day, all across the country, every profession.
Extremely well said SD. I’ve got nothing to add, except to say Noem seems the type who NEEDS to PLEASE people.
She appears to be a parrot of multiple positions (like “transgendered” men pretending to be women in sports) that appear contradictory to her core conservative values. And then she rambles on justifying her illogical positions by speaking of the “nuance” of her conclusions. Nuance that is so fresh, and so insightful, so, so fresh, that rubes like me wont understand.
But what she is really doing is nothing more than swaying in the political winds …bending like a slender reed in the wind to whichever multinational corporation whispers in her ear.
No Ms. Noem … your positions aren’t intellectually nuanced. Nope. Your simply a sellout.
It’s not about being pure. But there are some redlines that have to be watched.
Vaccine mandate IS a red line. This IS not a “vaccine”. It’s a lab experiment and people are the lab rats.
What a sick game the politicians and medical industry are a part of.
What she said. LOL. Absolutely. And I love your name.
BINGO
Exactly.
As long as HHS “Public Health Emergency” declaration is in effect, the lie that there is a “deadly” virus will continue to be used as the basis for saying “the shots’ risks are worth the benefit”.
The key to stopping this crazy train is revoking that HHS declaration.
Otherwise: Just wait another 6 weeks – the full FDA approvals are coming. Then it will really go into full injection mode.
There are 58,000 names on the Vietnam Memorial wall. Volunteered or ordered to their fates. That era ripped at the fabric of the nation.
By all accounts, the VAERS reporting system is massively under utilized. Even if widespread awareness drove its utility to 50% of all cases, that’s 25,000 fatalities arguably linked to the inoculation. A more probable utility rate would be around 25%, meaning fatalities are in the neighborhood of 50,000.
If reports are accurate, the USA is only 1/2 inoculated. A full inoculation would point to 100,000 fatalities and multiples of that hospitalized and/or permanently injured.
Maybe a new draft is coming.
Indeed. So is transgender sports
Noem is not for MAGA/Patriots.
Face it, she is part of the RINO/Uniparty.
Go back and listen to comments
she made regarding Candidate Trump.
She states in her own words
she is not a fan of Donald Trump.
“He is not her kind of Republican.”
Noem is being pushed by the RINOs
just like Niki Haley. Don’t be fooled.
“South Dakota Congresswoman Kristi Noem says Donald Trump went over the line with his comments about blocking Muslims from coming to the United States. She says he is not her type of republican…….”
https://wnax.com/news/180081-sd-congresswoman-kristi-noem-donald-trump-not-my-candidate/
Also, Noem is such a hypocrite. Listen to the
second soundbite where she believes that
“Marco Rubio is the best candidate and
someone that will be concerned about
Americans living paycheck to paycheck.”
Where is her concern NOW telling Americans
to look for another job if you do not want to
vaccinate. She is a phony/does not care about
the average person struggling paycheck to paycheck.
Good recall!
Marygrace Powers, always a great and appreciated comment.
If you could not see the disdain for PDT in her body language at the July 4th celebration then I really don’t know what to tell you. It was really obvious, she was extremely uncomfortable around him. She’s a RINO playing the MAGA game for support/votes. Sundance is correct.
Absolutely agree. I’ve seen it as well.
Weeding em out now/that’s what PDJT is doing.
MAGA STRONG ONLY –
NO MORE MAGA LITE!
President Trump facilitated getting what he was led to believe were “Miracle Vaccines” to the American People. He advocated “Choice” not “Mandates”.
The responsibility for “Developing” and “Making Available” those “Miracle Vaccines” falls to those who “Created” the “Vaccines”.
The continued use of those “Miracle Vaccines”, in spite of evidence they were overly harmful after being made available (*Biden), falls to those who continued to advocate their effectiveness.
Soros must pay well to be here working overtime on Saturday.
Yep, concern trolls are showing up a lot more lately.
Its all so boring, and so obvious…* yawn *.
They never come with anything original.
LOL
It’s also quite probable that there is not a soul who can come close to Trump let alone surpass him.
What he’s learned, the enemies he’s earned, the traitors he’s outed, the awakening he’s enabled, the faithful electorate that is rapidly growing, the political capital he’s accrued and gaining massive interest on, and the mandate of multiple massive landslide elections make him the most formidable enemy imaginable against all you claim to want to defeat.
Yet you claim we are worshiping an idol in recognizing his unique status in American leadership.
Curious.
Your point is valid.
You did not have to go there!
Any credibility you had just went in the dumper! (I’m being nice)
Not a troll folks. Never Trumper maybe.
Soros Trolls are sharper than this
I saw her tweet earlier today, and I had a different take on it. I thought she was saying that, since employers are having trouble finding employees, you may be able to say no and then find another job.
I think she is encouraging people who want to defy the employer mandates. I’m sure it isn’t as easy as that for everyone, of course. Gov. Noem isn’t the one who is pushing vaccine mandates, and perhaps she is being naive, but I don’t see anything nefarious there. Better to be encouraging than to remain silent.
I don’t think so, she is saying employers have a right to fire someone over a vaccine.
I don’t think we’d ever move to South Dakota, no job security.
You are correct. She is pro Jab and is ok with employers mandating Jabs (there not vaccines).
For most states in the U.S., employment at will has become a standard precedent. At will employment means that a worker can be fired or dismissed for any reason, without warning, and without explanation, unless the employee is covered by a contract that states otherwise. They can’t, of course, dismiss an employee for reasons prohibited by law, such as race or sex.
What about medical or religious reasons? It’s a bit more complicated. There will be lawsuits.
It’s couched in the words of empowerment. But it accepts the premise of coercion.
It accepts the premise that employers may dismiss employees, legally, for any reason or none, unless they are protected by contract or law (reasons like sex or race).
What about religious or medical reasons? There are / will be lawsuits. The tone of what she wrote was definitely based on her pro Jab leanings.
She showed her true colors for all to see by allowing men to pretend they are women and play female sports.
It’s an odd comment for her, the chief executive of the state, to make since she has the authority to end the mandates. If she’s not for them then stop them, otherwise she should shut up or put up. Her lack of action speaks volumes.
Passing the buck
I know that the Texas and Florida governors have signed Executive orders that prohibit vaccine mandates. I wonder if they would hold up if challenged legally. Wouldn’t stop an employer from dismissing an employee without reason anyway.
I guess we will see. I suggest you don’t read what you believe into what she said.
If she said that employers have the right to fire someone, then she’s correct, in accordance with the law. Unless they are covered by union contract, an employer can dismiss an employee for any reason – or none at all.
They can’t, of course, dismiss an employee for reasons prohibited by law, such as race or sex.
I see her statement more as a shot across the bow for employers. You don’t own your employees. They can dump you.
As for her career, she is governor of South Dakota. She does ok there, and may she serve there for many years.
I see the shot across the bow of individuals
Corporation rights come first!
You interpretation might have been more plausible if President Trump’s pre-covid economy was still booming. But that’s been gone for over a year.
So if you think those employers are worried in THIS worsening economy, then IMHO you are mistaken.
The unemployment rate in SD is less than 3%.
Hasn’t South Dakota had several human trafficking arrest? Seems like it’s big business in South Dakota.
Yeesh. I’m so ticked.
Noem: bought and paid for.
Just say no and let them act.
There is no justification for vaccine mandates. Our morbidity numbers are nothing near what would even make this remotely reasonable. The American Association of Surgeons and Physicians (AASP) has given excellent reasons on their website why it is not indicated. This is a breach of basic human rights and certainly the Nuremberg Code.
We seem to be provoked by these people for a reason. What are they hoping for.
Governors, if you ever governed, now’s your time.
The Jabs don’t work! It’s a joke. Noem is super pro Jab / Big Pharma. End of story!
Also I am big President Trump supporter but I do not agree with him regarding the Jabs. Sorry never will!
Have posted this link before, but it needs wider coverage.
https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2021/07/26/nigerian-jummai-naches-legs-amputated-in-u-s-after-pfizer-covid-19-jab/amp/
Please send to your governor and ask him/her to donate to this medical worker’s GoFundMe? Injured after a Pfiz vac mandated by her Minnesota employer. Ask them directly
Preach
It’s clearly a Nuremberg situation
Nazi medicine
Reverse Tuskegee
Human guinea pigs for no reason but to make Big Pharma rich since we now know it’s a bust anyway since err you still get sick with “Delta” when you get the jab (but nothing if you recovered)
This is the heart of the matter! The risk of vaccine greatly outweighs the risk of the virus.
And the jab does not work.So one is supposed to take this experimental aborted baby and God knows what else jab, that doesn’t work?
Right on the money, and a very clever (and accurate) classification system.
Also, to be fair, we must admit that MAGA was a new amalgam of political ideas for the US. As presently constituted, I don’t know if is every existed before. Hence, the best of our MAGA politicians are simply evolving toward PURE MAGA. No one else is there but Trump (and no one else could be there!).
One day this week lets all walk off the job. The “elites” cant do anything for themselves. Let thire toilets back up ,water line break,washing machine puke out, pool not get cleaned,car sit on the side of the road. Pain is the only thing they understand. We have ALL the power.
NOW you’re talkin’ Mike. That is exactly what will start change happening. If you aren’t happy you have to throw sand in the machinery.
A job you can replace. A career you can replace. A house, belongings, cars, clothes, you can replace all these.
You get one body. One. It has to last you, and there are no do-overs. It’s the body God gave you, and you are the decider of whatever you put into it. You.
Over Jabs that don’t work? Sorry but she is super PRO JAB! Super pro Big Pharma! She is could careless if someone is forced out their job.
It was her “let them eat cake moment.” Doesn’t everybody get a Governor’s pension?
You can get another job. It may be lower pay, but OK.
You can learn to make do with less stuff. Eating out etc.
Once the vax is injected into your body, you are screwed. There are very large numbers of short-term deaths and permanent serious injuries associated with the shots, but the potential long-term morbidity and mortality could be much worse, based on known pathologies of the shots.
I wonder where she was, on Pompeo’s list of China friendly governors?
Now that’s a good question Joe. ??
(And I’m one who doesn’t yet see a problem with her tweet).
It’s her tone. People can fight back and not just give into these Marxist companies. It’s apparent she is pro Jab and could careless that people are getting fired over Jabs that don’t work.
Kristi Whom?
DeSantis signed an EO that bans businesses in Florida from requiring that customers provide documentation verifying a Covid-19 vaccination.
However, I can’t find anything where he banned businesses in Florida from from requiring that their own employees provide documentation verifying a Covid-19 vaccination. Maybe someone else can find it.
If say Walmart (or whatever) decides to require that all their employees get the Covid injection, can he stop them? Does any Governor have that much power?
If Walmart (or whatever) does decide to require that and DeSantis can’t stop them, do we drown him too?
July 30, 2021: “The NCH Healthcare System in Collier County is requiring all employees to be vaccinated against COVID-19 by Sept. 16, becoming the first hospital system in Southwest Florida to mandate the vaccine.”
Will DeSantis stop this ?
Hey that guy is right. It is desperation Soros trollery. Whaddya know.
Not good work so they must be working without the scripts too.
Let me try to get some Soros nickels:
If Ronald Reagan was brought back to life with a really excellent new clone technology
And if Ronald Clone had issued an order which he didn’t but what if he did or did not
And then if Ronald Clone was fought in the courts
And then if he failed
And then he agreed like 99%
But like 1% was a total clone failure … against his wishes, but via the courts, and therefore in this scenario still his fault
Are we gonna drop dead Reagan due to Clone Reagan’s 1% botch?
Clearly we need to get jabbed for Kristi’s offshore account benefactor as I think you can see from my highly sophisticated argumentation
LMAO
Time for the employees to stand up and say NO! The people have to start standing up or they will always be run over and told what they can and cannot do. It’s called Communism.
The employer’s in Florida can require vaccination, but they can not force the employee to provide proof.
Governor’s do not have the power but State Legislatures can pass a law forbidding mandates by businesses.
It’s her tone. She is get the Jab or find a place that will accept you. She should have been on the attack condemning such practices.
I don’t think De Santis would write something like this but I could be wrong. There is no reason to give up. You can fight back through the courts. For example medical or religious discrimination. Also mass protests. Noem is like no big deal. Find another job.
Noem is Haley, 2.0.
This DOES bring to light an interesting dimension, however.
In many sectors, employers are unable to get sufficient workers,..and yes, due in part to govt policies.
At any rate, if a significant part of the population are refusing the jab, no matter what,…do they REALLY want to mandate the jab, for all employees AND NEW HIRES?
So, some of your employees take Noems advice and quit, and then potential new hires walk away, when you tell them they have to take the stick.
I just don’t see this Plandenic scam working out well for the enemy, long term.
Its like a tar baby, its stuck to them, and they to it,..they can’t get free of it, and its taking them down.
So Noem is yet another RINO.
Not arguing that but here is the thing: the term RINO is now an inaccurate term. It means “Republican in name only”, suggesting the person is deviating from the true party and not worth it’s name.
But there is nothing now to deviate from. They are *all* RINO’s so where is the true party they are abandoning? Aside from PT, there is none.
By logic, Trump is the actually the RINO, but in a good way.
The Uniparty is AINO.
American In Name Only.
Sometimes you just have to work with the Allies you have. If they (She) shares 80-90% of the MAGA Vector, she’s still an Ally in my book.
If your goal is to put lean, Organic, Non-GMO, (ha hah) red meat on the table, a big 12-point buck may be your ideal, lots of meat and a trophy rack to boot, but a nice looking doe will work just fine also.
Even the Opossum (Think Mitt Romney) has an amazing talent. They eat ticks. Hordes of them.
In one big way, she is right. Do what you can do, or need to do, in your own personal life first. And let that be the force that moves mountains.
We the People really do need to not think first what a particular level of government can/should do to fix a problem without us People doing all we can to fix it first. I guarantee you if enough Citizens start leaving jobs, in a state with full employment, that Company will switch HR policies in a heart-beat. Unless the Owners are willing to destroy their Company.
Then, the Politicians start getting calls and emails from big donors they don’t have good answers for and yet cannot ignore.
Then things start to change.
No ally of mine would ever allow my individual legal/Constitutional rights be trampled or removed.
I can’t think of any allies I have in any current governors offices. Maybe DeSantis but he needs careful watching.
Current U.S. politicians with any aspirations of “moving up” are going to eventually have to screw us and kowtow to the Deep State Masters.
Yup
Spot on Vandal!
A voice of reason and logic! Spot on indeed!
It only the individual that is guaranteed rights under the Constitution! Businesses have NO such rights!
Gov. DeSantis:
No school closings
No masks
No lockdowns
No Mandates
Gov. Noem:
Here’s the classifieds. You’re welcome.
Okay, I’m gonna cut Noem some slack on this one. The employment dynamics in SD are different than they are in heavily populated states and employers there don’t have a huge pool of job candidates to pick from. So in theory at least, employees there do have more power to dictate things like mask/vaccine policy.
That being said, it was a poorly worded way to tell employers to back off of mandating mask/vaccine policies. Not every person can just up and leave their job.
I’ll give her B minus on this…….but she should’ve given an A effort like DeSantis gets for his statement on the ‘rona.
This avalanche of fake conservative (and repubican) switcheroo began with Florida gov. Ron DeSantis when last week in a news address he informed the public that vaccines were safe and effective. Hidden in a mashup of no masks mandates. The next day, Alabama gov. Said its time to blame the unvaccinated. The next day the Arkansas gov had his 15 minutes. All of this was preceded by the whistle blower from inside the CDC who said their numbers were false and the real numbers of deaths was at least 45 thousand. Varers reporting system promptly cut the numbers of deaths reported on their website, in half. Now this. What was it last year, she tipped her hand at being infected with the rino virus. Stay tuned. More to come.
A lot of phoney cheerleading out their. Very overboard. Skeptical of a whooole lot.
Beware DeSantis is posturing and currying favor with the MAGA folks for 2024, I would take everything that ANY politician says in these times. Truth is a strange bedfellow for most.
July 30, 2021: “The NCH Healthcare System in Collier County is requiring all employees to be vaccinated against COVID-19 by Sept. 16, becoming the first hospital system in Southwest Florida to mandate the vaccine.”
If DeSantis doesn’t stop this, I think we should punch him in the mouth, kick him in the ass and throw him overboard to drown.
Even if we don’t want to, we must apply equal standards between men and women, between those from Florida and those from South Dakota, so obviously we must do this.
Or should we regain our sanity instead?
Or should we push De Santis to REP THE PEOPLE?
Hmm.. yeah, that.
If he is who he says he is we’ll instead demand action from our leaders while you work for Soros nickel and dime postings.
Why won’t we ask our leader to do his job and work for us?
You get the death stab, others choose not to.
He did his part by banning vaccine passports. The employers can require the jab, but they can’t require documentation or proof of the jab. Did you happen to notice his stand on Norwegian Cruise Lines?
Yes his approach is totally different. I also haven’t seen De Stantis make such a statement.
My bread earning spouse is next on the mandatory vax list. There must be exemptions. And I have confirmable documented proof of our religous objection to these vaccines that are tested on or contain aborted baby tissue lines.
Those who are pregnant, trying ro become pregnant ir nursing should absolutely be exempt.
Those with blood conditions should be exempt.
And for everyone else, our whole constitution was built on individual freedom, and the power of the people to control and restrain our government.
How are they getting away with this?
Why isn’t this in court everywhere as unconstitutional?
The “general welfare” and public health clauses truely can’t negate the entire foundation of our consitution.
There is pushback “The People” aren’t demanding mandates.
How do we make our representatives listen to us and legislate against this executive over reach?
“How are they getting away with this?”
Because the Bill of Rights has been ripped to shreds.
Depression/suppression/chaos troll.
Thanks for nothing, I believe we’ll go with defiance thank you.
And that and everything else we are witnessing are because satan is on the rise now.
This country turned into Sodom. It may turn out that God has decided its time to inflect some consequences.
Been watching for while and wondering if that was going to happen
You can go the legal route. There needs to be peaceful protests. Massive push back like we see in Europe.
Another “let them eat cake” Republican.
She’s allowing employers to mandate vaccines. My husband says it was discussed at work and that it is illegal for employers to ask about our medical records. My husband’s employer dropped the issue.
There needs to be a lawsuit, unfortunately, to drive this point home.
These are our livelihoods she is playing with.
That is the right outcome, your husband is blessed.
Unfortunately, the federal government is not likely to back off the just-announced “vax or test” mandate for employees.
Even if it is patently illegal on both counts, which it is.
The courts are fully corrupt now. The Congress…not likely to muster enough votes to oppose it either.
Most federal government employees who don’t want the vax will probably accept the test option and feel relieved. Few want to relinquish the comfortable secure lifestyle. They probably won’t see the test option ruse for what it is, either – a way to net some more vaxxed while placating the hardcore refusers for now and collecting data on who is unvaxxed, and then on to the next steps of mandating the vax for all employees, followed by a mandate on all Americans. The strategy is to frogmarch, group by group, building more and more mass, until it passes a critical mass where they can just slam it down on the last unvaxxed groups. (Including your family – read Solzhenitsyn.)
I’ve seen people adamant that the last part of the shot plan could never happen – but none of this should have happened, so we should not assume that our constitutional rights will protect us there, either. The whole of government has gone off the rails.
It’s unbelievable that the propaganda and censorship have made all this possible, but here we are.
I agree with SD here completely………..but WE have to understand that that we are led by criminals for the most part
AND we are unfortunately also surrounded by a lot of people who don’t know much.
Sooooooo WE are the ones who will have to act. Posting to chat boards is just not “acting” in the way that we must.
Into the streets and start harrassing our “leadership” and “elites” with very strong insults and clear threats on line –& out in public.
Sorry, but bitching just ain’t gonna git er done.
It seems the only way to rid us of these GOPricks and whores is to totally boycott elections until they all lose. And then attempt to create something from the ashes. Yes, a very extreme solution, but is there any better one that will get the job done? We are a cancer patient not at stage 1, but pretty close (if not already) to stage 4.
There really are no elected GOPricks who have our backs. We are on our own. We should begin to acknowledge that.
Ok, my pessimistic post of the day……when does the AZ audit result come out?
Glad I didn’t move to South Dakota when she was inviting people. Hope she doesn’t have any Presidential aspersions.
I plan on retiring early, when they mandate this.
It don’t suck! 😉
A mandate is not law.
Government or neighbor has no business telling me or anyone else what they can stick into our bodies when it’s not approved by the FDA and when government absolves vaccine manufacturers from liability.
Odd…liberals want gun manufacturers to be liable but not vaccine makers.
Their is Constitutional Precedence to back up Local and State governments mandating vaccinations (see Jacobson v. Massachusetts (1905)) in whuch the SCOTUS ruled in favor of government. Private business mandates are legal unless specifically forbidden by State Law. A little research goes a long way!
Denninger wrote an article along this same line and Sundance linked it, I think.
Is Noem trying to say the same thing? Take back the power. Quit participating in an economy that wants to crush us. Stop producing and bankrupt the establishment. Instead of standing around complaining that someone needs to do something, step up and do it.
Sure. Quite your job and move to another that doesn’t require the jab. Then when they try to make you get poked, quit and move to another. And then another. You’ll probably run out of available jobs after the first. Quit participating and support yourself how? Some power.
If ten million people did this, it might have the desired effect. As a do-it-yourself project, the odds are not good.
I think I may be going nuts. I was brought up as a Republican, now I can only describe myself as an Anti-Democrat. But what’s the difference between getting a new job because you don’t want a poke, and getting a new job because your job got outsourced? Isn’t it all creative destruction? Aren’t there always new and fabulous opportunities waiting around the corner? I always thought that if you don’t like it, there’s the door.
I’m not a troll. I don’t want answers, I NEED them. This is linked to an email I almost never use, but I will log-in if anyone cares to respond. Not crazy stuff like the poke is a time-released death capsule or that Covid doesn’t exist, or even crazier stuff like the Covids don’t infect BLM because they are non-violent. But isn’t Noem just saying what Republicans say? Am I taking crazy pills? I don’t like Republicans, but the Democrats NEED TO BE STOPPED! What other choice is there?
Don’t we want a country/world with free association? Boss wants A, you want B, find a new job. The inmates are already running the asylum. Do we want the inmates to take over the few pockets left? I understand the difficulties of “find a new job” but I understood them before too, about 11 years ago when just finding a new job was much, much more difficult.
I guess my internal conflict comes because I have seen the “left” and “right” (dumb two-dimensional terms for a much more sophisticated, at LEAST three dimensional graph) completely flip on several issues in the past two years. None of it makes any sense. I’ve been told I have to mask at work again. OK, to stay employed I’ll do that, but due to the nature of my job I have to work in the sun for long periods of time. I told my boss I will mask up inside while in the office, but when outside, I’m not getting a mask-tan for her or anybody! I’m about the least vain man on the planet, but I refuse to look like a weird sci-fi alien with a pale blotch over my nose-mouth-jaw.
Not to mention this damn Covid thing has made me feel like a complete fool several times. I worked the whole time. I paid my bills the whole time. My credit rating is over 800. Do you have any idea how may people I know that pretended to be “scared” and lived large, sipping wine Nino-Brown-style for 12+months on that sweet-sweet Covid unemployment? The bars were closed, so they just had house parties. And then, when the eviction moratorium came up, all the low-IQ folks I knew just stopped paying their rent/mortgage. I said they were nuts, but they said the government would make it ok. Well, at least in California it is, in fact OK. I could have saved 20k! Who is low-IQ?
I know I’m ranting, but none of this sh*t makes sense to me. If anyone can make actual, real sense of any of this, please enlighten me. I’m confused as f*ck in a revolving-door So-Cal lockdown. I don’t even know if I’ll be able to go to the damn zoo next week. GOD Bless America, what’s left of it!
Bill, I’ve got the same beefs and no answers. Don’t apologize for the rant. Reading yours was as better than writing one of my own.
The only thing I can say is that there’s a whole lot of people in the country whose interests are being bulldozed , with no organizations protecting them and nobody providing day-to-day leadership. Certainly not the people we thought were providing it. Let’s hope the vacuum gets filled while that’s still possible.
Best post of the night!
Gov Noem sounds like a globalist totalitarian…. forget people’s rights, just go to work and punch the clock.
Typical RINO for sure.