This is interesting and needs further research to confirm. John Fredericks is reporting today that Georgia may potentially decertify the 2020 election result for both the presidential race and senate race if the Fulton County audit confirms the alleged 30,000 fraudulent ballots. [Rumble Link Here] WATCH:
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Keep in mind, there are a lot of financial grifters and opportunists connected to the audit storyline. It is worthwhile doing substantive local research in Georgia before taking the word of anyone on these critical issues. From the perspective of CTH the current status of the Garland Favorito lawsuit is not as solid as many people claim it is.
Legislature should vote to decertify until such time as a full audit occurs.
Take it out of the hands of the judge in the FIRST place.
How can you decertify an already certified election? The Constitution doesn’t allow electoral votes to be taken back. A state can vote to do it, but there’s no mechanism for reversing an already certified election. It’s not like we have a running total of electoral votes, and as soon as it dips below the threshold, the President suddenly gets thrown out.
The Constitution allows one method, and one method only, for removing a President against their will. Impeachment, Trial, and Conviction by the Senate.
Not so. You’re talking sbout a legitimately elected President.
Right, said a different way – the Constitution doesn’t allow the current state of affairs either.
I’m sure John Roberts will get right on top of that
How are Presidents elected as far as the Constitution is concerned?
Was that election fraudulent?
That’s the fundamental problem. You can say the President was fraudulently chosen by several states, but he was not fraudulently elected.
If a candidate receives 50.1% of the popular vote, in most States all of the Electoral Votes from that State are awarded to the winner of the popular vote.
But suppose 10% of those votes are fraudulent? Or, the votes don’t even exist because, as we have seen on video from Georgia, poll workers ran the same stack of ballots through the voting machine more than once.
If a candidate didn’t win the popular vote the Electoral Votes do not belong to that candidate.
Correct, so they only have to cheat 1-10% of the vote to win most of the
time. Most elections are within 10%.
A president is elected by the electors in the electoral college.
The popular vote is what states do these days to choose electors. Choosing electors is what appears to be filled with fraud, not the election of the President by the electoral college.
This is the fundamental problem. The Constitution has no mechanism for reversing or redoing an electoral college vote.
I understand your legal point and you… may be correct, Constitutionally.
It is also true that the law provides that “fraud vitiates everything” so this is a matter for the SCOTUS to resolve.
Did Congress knowingly certify electors for Biden knowing that Trump had won the 2020 election? They should all be required to answer that question under oath. IF they all say YES… then the election is valid, and Biden is POTUS b/c Congress with full knowledge of election fraud was OK with the fraud. Then, “We the People” must deal with Congress’ corruption and dishonesty and INSULT to us and to the … clear meaning and purpose of elections in the Constitution. In other words, Congress deliberately denied us our Constitutional right to ELECT our govt which perhaps they CAN do, Constitutionally… which is probably your point. Of course, Congress wpuld also be admitting they conspired to install a fraudulent POTUS, the loser of the 2020 election
Most likely, all of Congress will say… they DID NOT KNOW that there was massive fraud and that the American people have been disenfranchised. So, then we ask… now that you know, are YOU willing to desertify– rescind your vote. Most will say … yes, or at least enough will.
Go to SCOTUS with the testimony of Congress AND the relevant state Senate’s too… and see IF SCOTUS rules as it should– justly. It’s pretty ludicrous if our legal system holds that “fraud vitiates everything” EXCEPT the fraudulent election of a POTUS and/or Congress.
The law obviously needs to make logical sense and BE just.
If SCOTUS still holds that the POTUS, Congress can only be removed via impeachment, then Biden and all others, down the line, including Congress… can do the right, honorable thing– resign. If they refuse, then their refusal is grounds for impeachment and conviction.
If the outcome of the election is shown to be the result of fraud, then the state laws of every state stipulate that “you never actually held office at all.” We are very obviously in brand-new territory here.
And your point is?
Fuarfearg is correct. The rest of you are still dreaming in Technicolor.
The only way Biden is going out of the WH is in a straightjacket on a hospital gurney babbling to himself or following a defeat in 2024 (hopefully by Trump again).
Biden didn’t win legitimately, massive fraud put him there. You want us to bury this, no. We DO NOT REWARD BAD BEHAVIOR. His is the direction our our country. Democracy v Socialism. China was involved in the vote also. Do you not seek truth? I do cause GOD demands it.
Biden is on video stating that he has assembled the largest election fraud team in history. That’s a statement against interest and an admission of guilt! It is easily admitted into evidence!
Has anyone in the Biden camp ever tried to “clarify” what he “meant” to say? As far as I know, they just completely ignored it.
Swept that gaff under the rug as quickly as possible. Shhhhh……he didn’t say that…wink, wink….nudge, nudge…
If you can locate that video it should be copied, stored, and shared (while citing references, of course!) with everyone. Don’t let what he said be forgotten. Even though he’s already forgotten saying it. Press the left to either admit what he said is true, or admit he’s no longer in control of what he says. Either way they loose.
Admitting that he was confused would support the dementia accusation.
They rotated it 180 degrees, as usual, and said he meant that they had the largest election fraud prevention team in history.
Because that is what any rational person would conclude he meant. I hate his guts but when he said it I knew what his addled mind intended to say.
Trump skips words all the time as he leaves one thought unfinished and jumps to the next. It takes just a touch of intelligence to fill in the blanks.
Biden just does it because he’s stupid.
Yes. In an honest media environment that “clarification” would have begged simple questions: Where exactly is this “largest fraud prevention team in history”? It sure has a low profile. Who/What does it consist of? What are its activities?
He misspoke. It just accidentally said the truth when he did so. But people jumped all over it as if it were a Freudian slip when in reality it was just Mumbles tripping over his tongue again.
We need to keep our heads here and stop grasping at straws. There is plenty to convict the man without such stretching.
Forget Biden. There’s massive video evidence of Fraud happening on Election nite in several States.
And anyone who stayed up late that nite watching KNOWS that.
Joe Biden also admitted on a recorded interview that he threatened to withhold vital funding unless he (or rather his son) was granted certain privileges
Nothing came of that either
Just sayin’
Biden also confessed to blackmailing a Ukrainian State Official, nothing happened.
He also scolded a supporter when he sneered, “I don’t need your vote”.
Hillary also told him to ‘never concede’
An Obama operative also said that Joe might not win on election night but he’ll be president.
So, biden’s gaffs are more than a single anecdote, a slip of the tongue, or remnants of a stutter. Too bad we have a disinterested media.
Sorry Lamar, that reply was for California Joe further upthread.
Meh…..just the ramblilngs of a demented old man….then remove it, install the wife or knee pads and life goes on../sarc
If something is illegal it is illegal. If I rob a bank and later get caught. I can’t keep the money even though the money is in my possession.
If the votes are a result of fraud. How is it I get to keep and count the fraudulent votes as legal?
Agree Fandog. No where in the Constitution does it say if an election is stolen there is no remedy.
What remedy do you see happening?
I got news for you. Whatever it is you come up with will NOT happen.
Thus there IS NO REMEDY.
Declaration of Independence is full of remedy. Actually it is our right and DUTY to throw off the bands of the government that had usurped its power.
“Fraud vitiates everything.”
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=46410
There is nothing in the Constitution that prevents Congress from certifying a fraudulent election.
wow man, you just can’t stop, can you?
LOL.
These guys never give it up!
I am finding these “moroons” on just about every conservative site there is.
Paid shills because they are in their momma’s basement with the lights turned off…
How is it he has to be a paid shill just because he speaks a truth that is at odds with your fantasies?
Fuarfearg is correct. You are not.
My Constitutionalist bona fides go back decades on numerous sites including this one. Before you start gaslighting people about me you best keep that in mind.
My thoughts are mine without pretense based on the facts at hand. I call balls and strikes the same for the other side as I do my own.
You should try it sometime.
He happens to be correct.
Snap out of it.
Federal judges throw out local elections based on fraud and along with the election they toss out the office holder ordering a new election!
Big deal.
Roberts and his lot of robed tyrants will hold the line on the status quo. It’s personal with him.
Congress does NOT certify…the STATES do…all the House does is COUNT the certified electors
Ahhhhh, a Pence voter!
Can Pense be impeached for certifying…?
If that’s true then doesn’t the states have a right to decertify and call for a new election or replace fraud with a true winner?
As a citizen of this great country, I would settle for a run off election in those swing states where the fraud overfloweth. Not like the senate run off in Georgia while the fraud was still running rapid under the cloud of Covid. This time the world WILL be WATCHING with both eyes open. ID required and pre- registered voters only and for God sake, clean up those decades old voter rolls of dead, moved out of state voters and incarcerated people in prisons. NO HONESTY OR INTEGRITY > NO PEACE
Sure. They can decertify and have a new election.
The problem is that the electoral college meets once every 4 years. It’s the electoral college that actually elects the president.
Exactly.
So when those 435 electors elected the President, was that election fraudulent?
People seem to be forgetting that the President isn’t actually elected on election day. For the 2020 election, the president was elected on December 14th. Not Novemeber 3rd.
You Bitme supporters never give up,get off my front porch,I am not buying what you are selling.
It’s not your porch, it’s your mommies porch. Your generation leeches off your parents hard work.
The brilliance of the Constitution is that its effectiveness depends on the character of honorable men, like Mike Pence.
Honorable and Pence should never be used in the same sentence without the word NOT involved.
I think Pence believed he was acting in good faith. I also think he was wrong not to support Donald Trump against fraud. Pence not only helped to injure Donald Trump. He killed off his OWN political career.
There are multiple people that were acting in good faith, based on bad information. Our corrupt media will destroy the country if it’s not reigned in.
That being said, if Pence was acting in good faith, he would have discussed what he was going to do with the President before he did it.
Even in the Bible honorable good men fall. Lacked courage
There is nothing in the constitution that stealing is illegal.
People NEED to read the following:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/98/61
ESP. PARAGRAPH 11….
Karmy, Everyone should read the above article. it is very informative. https://stateofthenation.co/?p=46410.
Constitution doesn’t prohibit taking back electoral votes if they were awarded pursuant to fraud either
In the event of fraud, Biden was never president to begin with, so no constitutional issue removing him, his presidency is null and void
If fraud is confirmed then the former certification was invalid. It is wiped away, formally, by the same body that had voted for it assuming the election results were not fraudulent.
Fraud vitiates everything that was gained by fraud.
The diamonds must be returned.
Biden will have to pay back his salary!
To us or China? Or both?
Sure. I can see the Uniparty getting right on that one.
Not.
Yes, and that means everything that Biden or his minions signed into law is nonexistent. 🙂
Just imagine….everyone on the pipelines get their jobs back, we are energy independent again, gas prices go back down to where they were, business as usual returns to the border, just for starters! Nirvana!
Truth is what you are imagining. I agree with you. Unfortunately, the communists believe that their dictatorship over time will erase our true beliefs. Time erodes our memories of America as it was. Time , the communists believe , will encourage us to develop as taste for eating grass..as America slowly becomes North Korea without realizing it.. Transformation, the Obama/Biden prediction takes time.
My thoughts keep returning to communism and how they ruled by military means along with the KGB. Unfortunately they are filling the military with leaders against America and we all know who stands in place of the KGB in our country.
If/when state audits prove fraud and the state(s) de-certify their electoral vote, my question becomes what action the House of Reps will take, if any, under Piglosi. I don’t believe she will do anything at all. JMHO, but I believe it will take a 2022 R-House with a new speaker do take action, and frankly, a RINO might do nothing either. Just my thought.
Good question, MaineCoon. If the state’s electors are revoked, then she doesn’t have much left i her legal toolbox to use. Back before January 6, many were saying that the House could elect the president with one vote per state. The Reps whose states had determined their vote majority was for Trump would be obligated to cast one vote for Trump. Republicans hold a slight majority of states.
This ABC article describes the process: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/house-decide-president/story?id=73640149
Thanks for reminding me of that scenario. I still doubt that she would call a vote. Lawfare would say – don’t do it – and the Rs / Lindy will investigate. They don’t follow the rule of law. So, we need to flip the chambers, get rid of mitch and kevin, wishful thinking, I know.
You are correct, you don’t short of impeachment.
Hundreds of millions of dollars are being made off of the subject. Selling hopium is a big big business.
So is trolling on popular conservative websites.
Disagree Big Jake. The left is running rings around us for many reasons but Deplorables’ fantasies are not one of them.
The left has all the cultural institutions of power. They have all threee branches of government because the corrupt Republicans found out long ago they could personally enrich themselves while being in the minority and always begging for money to “fight the evil Democrats”. Yet the Repubs never quite fought with both hands or with much determination to win. it was always an illusion.
President Trump gave us a brief glimpse of what could be accomplished with real action instead of empty promises. That same attitude applies to exposing the evidence of fraud and invalidating the actions of December (electoral college), January 6, (congress) and January 20 (illegal inauguration).
You can sit there and throw poop all over everyone’s hopes that are based on real potential actions but it doesn’t change the chances of those acti0ns happening. Only the collective pressure from the electorate will convince the state legislatures to act.
Yes. This is correct.
Don’t you think if Georgia, Arizona and one other State voted to decertify their electors that would suddenly make Biden-Harris illegitimate?
It would certainly be a potent campaign weapon in 2022 – and again in 2024 with everyone calling for their impeachment and removal as illegitimate occupants.
The thing is – even if this happens in Arizona & Georgia – that isn’t enough to dip below 270.
They need one of Wisconsin, Michigan (won’t happen) or Pennsylvania to do so as well.
Will any of them…?
I can’t see it at this stage.
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A report just came out about Michigan’s elections being fraudulent!
https://uncoverdc.com/2021/06/28/michigan-rep-rendon-has-evidence-of-systemic-election-fraud/
Don’t look to Michigan to help with any of this. Just the other day, the Michigan Senate Republicans put out a report stating the Michigan election was A-OK, no problems anywhere, all speculation of fraud was overblown, nothing to see here.
That’s how the AZ Republicans started as well – and look at them now.
Keep grinding!
Legal issues aside, a government is only legitimate and has power as long as the citizenry views it as legitimate. The same goes on the foreign stage.
The electors were certified when the electoral college elected the President.
As far as I’m concerned they are already illegitimate.
I think every state that was within 5% should conduct a full forensic audit, and decertify if the November result was not correct.
We should absolutely delegitimize anyone who is fraudulently elected. They should be be mercilessly mocked and disregarded until they resign in shame.
The problem is for most federal offices, there is no mechanism for overturning the result after January 6th, short of impeachment and conviction.
as you name the US Constitution you dismiss it…the same document sets STATES as the arbiter of the rules for elections in their locales…if they are the determiners of how to certify an accurate count those SAME rules can be used to DECERTIFY inaccurate results…the CERTIFICATION is done at the STATE level….all the HoR does is count those to see if a majority of the EC was cast for a single candidate….IF the certification is pulled the HoR COUNT is diminished by that amount….below 270 there s NO legitimate decision for POTUS
I totally agree.
But only up to the point where the President is elected by the electoral college. Once that happens there are no electoral votes to be removed.
If an election is found to be fraudulent then that warrants decertification of the results.
And who is gonna do that?
The electors are done. Their votes are counted.
The states can do whatever they want. They will just be ignored. And you can bet Roberts will squash them like bugs on his bench if it ever comes to that.
We don’t have three independent branches any more. They’re all in on the con.
You are wrong. This potential event is not in the Constitution. Ergo there is no rule on fraud – if fraud is proven it will have to be litigated – either in Congress or in SCOTUS.
I smell another big hustle underway, here.
Let’s have military tribunals at Gitmo decide who should be President.
Let’s have Huber or Durham investigate the election fraud (do these guys even exist?).
Let’s have Lindsey Graham launch a Senate investigation (add it to the list).
The audits will be on-going when the 2022 elections are underway, using Dominion voting machines. Bet on it.
Don’t fall into the trap of those who only encourage “strict constitutionalism” when it protects and preserves corruption and tyranny.
You hit the nail on the head. Any proof of illegitimacy through fraud will cause a constitutional crisis.
An illegitimate administration has no authority over a citizenry that didn’t elect it. As bad as things will turn domestically, this would lead to a national security threat like never before.
The forensic audit will prove fraud. Decertification is the correction.
Please explain, in detail, how this will REALISTICALLY happen.
I’ll wait.
you should really be asking which would be worse, to go into unchartered waters to correct a massive fraud on the American people or to let a stolen election stand amd therefore cementing the fact that stealing our elections is a viable path to power.
Exactly. Too many people on this site believe in fairy tales and fantasies.
The election WAS stolen, but there is no, I repeat, NO REALISTIC **Constitutional** avenue to reverse it.
We need to stop behaving like children seeing the world as they wish it rather than how it actually is.
The framers of our Constitution did not consider fraud, because they did not have to: they left it to the individual States. They were working with one piece of vellum, writing by hand in very fine script. They reasonably could not account for every possibility.
However, it is the practice in every state that, if you gained office through fraud or coercion, “you never held the office at all.” This applies the judicial principle of void ab initio, which also applies for example to contracts. You are removed and replaced, and all of your official actions are nullified as though they had never been made.
Fraud vitiates…. some?
Fraud invalidates
Georgia senate majority leader Mike Dugan came to our republican meetings in Dec and Jan. and spoke and answered questions (some heated) for quite some time. Nothing was going to be done about looking at nov 3 or at the time looking ahead to jan 5. NOTHING. Communicated quite a bit with my state house rep Micah Gravely who I know on a first name basis. NOTHING. I can’t imagine them doing anything.
That was a lifetime ago, the climate has changed. However, House Speaker David Ralston was a major obstacle to this correction. He will continue to block a vote, block a special session and remove defiant reps from committees. If concrete fraud is found, if it hasn’t been”fixed” by GBI/SoS, the pressure will be much higher to remedy this.
I am just as concerned about our local elections. Cobb was absolutely fraudulent.
This is what infuriates me.
There are way too many state level Republicans that think if the election cant be overturned, then there’s no reason to scrutinize the election.
There are MANY reasons to scrutinize the election even if it can’t be overturned. Restoring faith and legitimacy to the process being the best one.
The 2020 result does not deserve legitimacy. This president deserves a country that revokes it’s consent until their faith is restored by the resignation of his entire administration.
State Senator Brandon Beach said he believes we can take our 16 electoral votes back if this audit turns up this fraud.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/georgia-state-senator-brandon-beach-think-can-ask-16-electoral-college-votes-back-park-em-video/
He once believed in Santa. How’d that turn out?
306 – 16 = 290 (GA electoral votes parked)
290 – 11 = 279 (AZ electoral votes parked)
279 – 10 = 269 (WI electoral votes parked)
And … just like that, “biggest vote fraud organization in history” Biden no longer has 270 EV …
Bring it on. We’re founded on Constitutional law. This whole fight both works and wins using the Legislatures of the people following the laws.
The federal government has been riding roughshod over the U.S. Constitution for too long. Probably 99 our of 100 federal laws are unconstitutional, and the U.S. Supreme Court is complicit.
Today SCOTUS voted in favor of trans people using the incorrect bathroom based on their actual gender. They are told how to vote in certain cases, most likely.
Judges first when it starts.
They did not vote eactly, jJust did not hear the case. Hope Amy is surprised soon in the ladies room so she can experience first hand what the “little” people get as a result of her lack of courage.
at least get the facts straight…they did NOT hear a lower court ruling on the issue leaving the flawed decision in place…so they did not actively “vote” on either side of the issue other than washing their hands of it at this point
Fact: They did not have the votes to hear the case. Even most of the “conservatives” passed.
We should start calling it the Pontius Court.
It’s their new tool when the Constitution gets in the way: either refuse to hear the case or declare no standing.
Hands washed now pass the Mojito and caviar.
MSM first when it starts. Judges second, then FBI/DOJ/CIA/CDC/NIH.
Exactly. Let’s don’t forget military brass and other Swamp creatures outright defied an order from their CIC, these people seem to do whatever they want. Laws only work when people follow, enforce, and respect them.
Be great if this happened, but I’m not going to put any hope into it until I see the American people en masse outraged over the criminal corruption destroying our country and ruining our lives.
“until I see the American people en masse outraged”
How would that manifest itself? Do we burn courthouses or federal buildings, start shooting people or did you have something else in mind?
I thought the American people were expressing their dissatisfaction rather clearly as possible without resorting to violence.
We showed our outrage on Jan. 6th and we were certainly “en masse.”
We’re starting to see it with public confrontations of Marxist school boards.
How about burning up Congressional phones calling our Congressmen about the unjust imprisonment of Jan 6 patriots? How about burning up Congressional phone lines demanding Antifa/BLM be locked up? How about demanding Republican Congressmen work with all tools available to stop the socialist agenda of the Democrats and Biden. How about demanding Republican Congressmen do everything to delegitimize ILLEGITIMATE PRESIDENT BIDEN!!!
We must rise up and demand these worthless representatives REPRESENT US!!!
Congressional phones aren’t busy when I call. Guess I must be one of the few.
How about holding all local leaders accountable making their lives uncomfortable as we confront them over the communist corruption and demand they take action in line with our Constitutional Republic.
How about constantly contacting, via email/phone calls, your state legislators and governors DEMANDING AN AUDIT OF THE 2020 ELECTION? How about getting your neighbors and community on board demanding an audit. This should take place in every state.
That’s what I’m talking about.
I have to say I am so seriously disappointed with my fellow Americans who mindlessly went along with the Covid scam which was used by the corrupt govt to destroy their lives/make them sick. And their stupid willingness to be given an experimental shot containing genetic material that will FOREVER change their DNA over a virus that is 99.95% survivable makes no sense and just shows we’re a nation of blind obedient sheep.
When I see a change I will believe the evil corrupt criminal cartel running our country will be held accountable.
Excellent answer.
Indeed.
Eliza knows exactly what needs to be done, but isn’t being done.
Once again, we fail ourselves.
Guess how that outrage happens.
A State legislature decertifies their electoral votes.
Think that’s a minor deal? Quite not. Boy, will the conversations and arguments ensue…
Second state decertifies? Problem squared.
That’s when people will start becoming visibly pi**ed and the streets will fill with regular citizens in many venues.
Trump won.
By a lot.
Bigly!!!!!
Big League!
YuGH !
Oh yes he did!
Heads are going to explode! Can’t wait to see NP’s head explode! Great visual!
Once we have enough states to put Biden under 270, I want them to go a lot further. And not just all the contested states. I want a full forensic audit of CALIFORNIA. We likely didn’t win there, but I’d bet a lot of money that we came very close, probably within 5 % points.
I second that from Redding CA. !!!
And New York.
Same situation.
I live in OC, CA and none of us voted for the gas tax no matter how badly Becerra wrote it on the ballot. That woke many up.
CA is RED. We are also very, very upset the State dumped our water. We are having what Sundance calls cold anger. Its so cold its almost frozen! Sorry, no working apostrophe on this computer.
I’m going to buy you that apostrophe! Well said.
All states!
Truth!
Biden already got the 270, (stolen, fraudulently obtained, corruptly won, etc) and they were spent on January 6th. They aren’t returnable, refundable, or revokable. They’ve been collected, allocated, and spent.
The diamonds must be returned.
No. Granted, our cynical Founding Fathers never anticipated anything as evil as Obama’s lust for a third term and the Swamp’s complicity… but the fact is that treason doesn’t give you the constitutional right to keep the country you stole.
Well with your logic it makes robbing banks and keeping the money a worthwhile endeavor.
Exactly. One of Gateway Pundit’s stray on-the-clock Soros-ians paid to threadjack got loose and is concern trolling here.
Here are things that aren’t in the Constitution
Privacy is NOT the federal right for infanticide all the way to the 9th month, a barbarity not even godless Europe would ever consider.
Gay marriage. Angry Harvard professor activists have been admitting forever that marriage is a state level institution. Just because closeted Roberts is angry he got insecure and felt compelled to marry a beard and quickie adopt 2 kids in his mid 40’s for his job doesn’t mean he should change the Constitution for revenge. It’s supposed to be argued state by state, not imposed illegally from on high by an imperial closet job.
Therefore, it is both ok and obvious to insist that you don’t have to write things like if you’re caught stealing a minium of 13 million votes you get to keep them.
I do not see the Left playing such games and you don’t fight LESS hard than your enemy. If you’re an actual Conservative rather than a Soros-ian.
There is a LOT of precedent for removing proven cheats from office without impeachment.
Bye-done!
Bye-done!
LOL. Perfect!
What precedent is there for removing someone from federal office, that didn’t require an act of Congress?
What precedent is there for allowing men in a girl’s bathroom?
NC 2018…federal judge invalidated an election for a Representative to House because of some GOP improprieties during the cycle…election was vacated with a new election held to determine winner
Harris was never certified as the winner of that race.
Here are some things that *are* in the Constitution:
The method for electing a President.
The method for removing a President.
There a difference between a Constitutionally prescribed process and a criminal process.
The ruling class does that too, and it is worthwhile.
Rules & laws are for people like us.
“Fraud vitiates everything.”
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=46410
The U.S. Constitution is not a suicide pact …… the founders planned on the states being responsible for selecting the President.
When the federal government is so corrupted that it certifies a massively fraudulent election, the states have the duty to nullify that certification.
“fraud vitiates everything”.
How many states have to be involved? Just enough to flip the electors total to 270 for President Trump.
You obviously don’t understand American jurisprudence. Nothing gained by fraud is allowed to remain in the hands of those who gained it once fraud is proven.
If Biden is allowed to remain in office after fraud is proven then there is zero law in America for EVERYONE. ITS A FREE FOR ALL. No law enforcement agency has any further authority that MAGA citizens will recognize (heck, The Left has ignored their authority for some time…)
The military takes charge. Our forefathers planned for the worst; we are fighting the same bankers they were.
The same military now purging its ranks of American patriots and teaching them CRT and to be ashamed of their whiteness? SecDef Austin and General Milleys “woke” military?
Don’t bet on it.
Exactly why they’re purging and brainwashing the military.
Flipping Georgia & Arizona is not enough to make Biden illegitimate by way of fraud – you need 1 more of Wisconsin, Michigan or Pennsylvania.
Nevada?
They are revokable, you’re absolutely wrong.
Au contraire. We the People have the final say as per the Bill of Rights.
Bravo Joan. We do NOT consent.
Fraud is illegal. Always has been, always will be. So is treason. Your chant of “they aren’t returnable, refundable, or revokable is nothing more than wishful thinking on your part. Courts base decisions on factual evidence, not wishful thinking.
Have you ever heard of a guy named John Roberts?
Treason is a crime. Who’s going to arrest and prosecute them? The FBI? The federal courts? Nancy Pelosi is going to allow articles of impeachment to move forward?
I’m all for the audits laying bare the truth of what happened, whichever way it goes. But if it turns out Biden didn’t win GA, Az, etc. the only think it accomplishes is proving his illegitimacy. From there the options for remedy are few and frightening.
True. States can decertify and change their EC votes, but who enforces this? Who evicts Xiden?
Agree completely. However, if fraud is laid bare, or enough states rescind certification, I suspect Pelosi would rapidly move to remove Biden and Harris. We won’t like what comes next.
What if these audits also prove Congressional seat fraud and Pelosi isn’t Speaker?
W.S.
You write:
“From there the options for remedy are few and frightening.”
They are, and they are essential.
In the words, in part, of the 38 year-old Patrick Henry:
“…Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it….”
and
“…They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power….”
March 23, 1775
Back to me:
These need razing for they have corrupted themselves that long a time and to that extent: DOJ, FBI, CIA.
Few and frightening as you say.
Such admiration for Patrick Henry.
Frightening is letting the communist yo continue to control us. There are some things a man fears more than death.
And we already know the elections weren’t held as prescribed by the various state legislatures. But the first question is whether the various state legislatures can de-certify. They should have acted sooner to call the electors into question as not certified. Then the Jan 6th farce with Pence could never have happened legally.
How do you know that?
if AZ and GA audits turn up the evidence of widespread fraud we know is there I see PA being under such intense pressure they will also audit from the legislature….that is 20 votes alone right there
A beautiful dream…let’s pray it becomes a reality!
You don’t need 270.
You only need 270 if 538 are counted. If less are counted the threshold to win drops, ergo same problem.
The Cat’s expression says it all.
What Fulton County audit?
They have 200dpi scans of ballots.
That’s it.
You can take back all the electoral votes you want. The problem is the cash has already been spent. The electoral college already convened and voted and certified. There is nothing to take back. The current Schmuck is our illegitimate President.
The illegitimate Senators, on the other hand may be a bit different. But the only Constitutional process for removing a Senator is resignation or removal by the Senate. No court will directly order an already seated and serving Senator to vacate the seat.
All that being said.
Audits are incredibly important. While they may not be able to reverse the election, they can totally destroy the majority’s corruptly obtained power. They can show that the last 25 years of “You cant investigate fraud, because fraud never happens and it’s racist to say it does!” was nothing but a corrupt cover up.
It’s important to find out what happened. It’s important to prove it, and make the proof incontrovertible. But it’s just as important to stay realistic and rational. We don’t accomplish ANYTHING unless we can convince people who aren’t convinced already. We can’t do that by threatening treason and firing squads.
I guess the Bank robber who robbed the bank and spent the cash is home free?
You might catch him. You might even send him to prison. But you are not getting your money back.
Most banks carry insurance called a banker’s blanket bond that covers losses due to theft. So actually they do get it back if it’s stolen.
We won’t get the last 6 months back, but, other than that……
And frankly, I’m fine w/ the last 6 months. All they did was wake even MORE people up to how corrupt the Dems/RINOs and their MSM really are.
quit feeding the troll…he is threadjacking the topic with some pretty flawed “thinking”
Yeah, come on Treepers. Y’all are smarter than this.
If you or I rob the bank we’re screwed. If it’s the cops and the judge who robbed the bank in conclusion with the mayor and most of the city council? Yeah. They are basically untouchable until the citizens get out the torches and pitchforks.
Have you been listening to what Sundance has been saying? There are no more checks and balances. The Congress, the executive bureaucracy (notably the DoJ, FBI, & Intel) are all subordinated to the service of the DC ruling class.
The remedies here are either a constitutional convention, “extreme federalism”, dissolution of the union, or civil war.
Extreme times call for extreme measures.
If he is Joe Biden’s son, apparently he is “home free”. Ask the impoverished suffering people of Ukraine
Fuarfearg,
Is that you jennna ellis?
If not, you are sure following the never-trumper, treasonous story line.
She & every other politician. I have not heard ONE of them fighting against the CRIME OF THE CENTURY. Not one. And those little crapweasels at various “conservative” symposiums are just merrily talking about taking back the house & senate while IGNORING the BRINGING BACK the rightful President.
Boy, are they going to be in shock. We’re going to fight for auditing all of their sorry behinds. God willing, it’s going to be a down-ballot deluge.
I hope you are excepting Marjorie Taylor Greene and Matt Gaetz from that blanket statement.
Admittedly we have only a handful of patriots but each of them is worth 100 of the rest.
By G_D, that is what we need to do. You are finally saying the right thing. You misspelled can’t ,it is can.
“We can’t do that by threatening treason and firing squads.”
President Pelosi, come on down!
??????
Can Mafia be president ?
Again?
Who is in the White House today?
That would be considered ‘proceeds of crime’. She cannot assume office.
Besides, she thinks there was an insurrection on 6 January? “Hold my beer”.
If you want to expose this planned fraud, GET THE COMMUNICATIONS!
Where are the lawsuits?
I wish we had agencies (supposed to protect the interests of the American people) willing to do that. Sadly, FIB, CYA, Dept. of inJustice et al are actively working against the interests and rights of the American people.
The agency is We the People.
Wake me up when someone or a bunch of someones grows a spine. This slow kabuki theater is boring and painful. Anyone with a functioning brain knows Trump won the 2020 election. The whole world knows it!
Expose the bastards, and start arresting them!
Wake you up when who does what?
I don’t know what we can do, but clearly it’s up to WeThePeople to do what the Swamp will do anything to prevent.
My sentiments exactly. This bs of “we’ll get it right next time” is not acceptable. Time for arrest and watch the singing begin.
Anybody else find the timing of the bombings by Biden of the Syria and Iraq border to be rather suspicious? /s
I mean, there were rumblings that a preliminary report may be released from the Arizona audit and presto chango, look over here folks, tensions are escalating in Syria/Iraq. The Pretender in Chief starts dropping bombs.
Nothing to see everyone, please move along.
Foresically audit every damned county and state please. We probably took the House, I’m confident we took the Senate.
It might be that, but for all we know, Bidung thinks he’s bombing Libya.
There is and will be a full court press with distractions. It comes with the territory. But, it does not make illegal legal.
you mean ofc we HELD the Senate
Presentation by folks who did the Forensic Audit in Arizona….. must watch… not long…
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/dems-must-terrified-maricopa-county-auditor-bob-hughes-shares-using-high-tech-forensic-digital-cameras-ocr-validate-ballots/
…but more important it’s the first time it’s ever been needed. And it was done.
This was needed in 2012 and 2016 for various reasons at a minimum.
I suspect US history would be much different if they blew this whistle 40 years ago when the Dims and rinos banned criticism of vote fraud for a 1/3 of century.
I believe nothing from Georgia until I see it. Rafensberger has proved both parties there are corrupt and in someone’s pocket. The left has spent a lot of time money and manpower there to turn Atlanta into a malleable district for them. Atlanta to me is almost Chicago. Show me what you’ve got it shut up.
And more importantly, “Not one vote. Not one penny. Don’t ask for my support. Don’t ask for my vote. Don’t ask me to donate money. In fact, go to straight to hell. Do not pass go. Do no collect $200.”
I fire off responses to fundraising letters that start with “Dear backstabbing, duplicitous, traitor…”. I unsubscribe immediately if I see any spam emails from a Republican source. If they’re dumb enough to use an email that I can reply to, I reply in ways that are unmistakably hostile.
They know they’ve got a massive fraud problem, and they’re making promises hoping we’ll all go away. They’re afraid of the alternative which is that millions of people show up with ropes looking for trees and politicians.
Love it hokkoda – especially the “dear backstabbing, duplicitous traitor.” I do it too – it feels so good to not beat around the bush but to let them know EXACTLY what I think of them.
Is Fredericks the newest member of the Tick-Tock Club ?
This audit has been put on hold until the Durham report is released. An undisclosed source within the DOJ said the full report is presently undergoing scrutiny for classified information that poses a national security risks so that those risks can be redacted. This could take one more day than the earlier reports estimated as forever.
Still waiting on JFK files (over)due 2017, er, 2021 …
57.6 years and counting
Oh, yes. LBJ was afraid the Russians did it. Again.
(hahahahahaha, generally maniacal LBJ in bed with FBI for sure, $$$$ for CIA)
Election decertification in George? And other states to follow?
How can that be???!!! You must be kidding!
The honorable Bob Barr, and the even more honorable Mike Pence, each gave us his highest personal assurance that everything was as clean as a hound’s tooth as well as that all the Democrat Party vote counters had been blessed by Mother Theresa.
However, be that as it may, I would also like some more decertifications, if justice is to be restored and that would be the decertification of the oaths of office that Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, Chairmen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley and the rest of the Bourbon Generals and Admirals at the Pentagon took as they don’t seem to have even a first clue as to what the Constitution they took an oath to even says. If they do, they certainly give no sign of it.
They don’t! Grifters everyone of them.
It is all unraveling for the “Bad Guys”. They are in panic and desperation. This is not a time sniveling, willy nellies and woe is me. Hopeless surrendering is exactly what the enemy prays for and i don’t blame them. Why fire a shot when the surrendered already have their hands joined behind their heads.
All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near
― Sun Tzu
pretty sure you mean WILLIAM Barr the ex AG…Bob Barr was once a US Representative from GA
LOL. Some posters are not so smart.
Has anyone seen this yet? News to me but maybe not others.
Tony Shaffer’s call with AG Barr
Another example of the Big Toe on the scales at JustUs. Big Bill Barr.
Keep in mind – This kind of operation, to rig an election in multiple battleground states/cities, REQUIRED the FBI to at the very least, look the other way. Going to be a very hot summer.
And that is all they had to do – look the other way. There didn’t even have to be any coordination among the Democrat Party election thieves as they all already knew, on account of personal experience and heredity, what to do.
WOW the trolls are all over this one.
Did this one cause someone to dirty their pants?
Great minds think alike. I know, right?
Spray the Raid please, this is a nasty little infestation.
Also known as desperation flak.
PDJT won by margins larger then reported or guessed and there is no way on this green earth dementia Joe received more votes then any President.
Donald Trump: The Peace and Prosperity Bringer.
Joe Biden: The Fraud and Corruption Bringer.
I love when Trump brought up he couldn’t even fill the circles.
Mike Lindell said again today that the vote was 80 million for Trump and 68 million for Biden.
I think he is very generous to Slo Joe…I would put his total at 50M max
All of this could have been avoided and Donald Trump would be President if they had done their jobs and performed the audit before Jan 6.
The ones who aren’t totally corrupt are totally afraid of the riots the Democrats would unleash.
They shouldn’t be afraid of Democrat riots. Those are gnats compared to what’s coming if the corruption is allowed to stand.
They’re making threats like a cornered animal and that the risk of loss will be enough to keep the threats to their wealth, power and privilege at bay.
But we’re reaching a point where the American Middle Class is deciding it’s got nothing left to lose and a clear idea of who is stealing their future from them and from their children.
Nothing left to lose looks nothing like BLM/Antifa riots. “Nothing left to lose” coming for you starts making eating a bullet or throwing yourself off a roof look reasonable.
We’re getting closer every day.
2016, the hysterical Dem lawfare attacks on even a mild review of the ballots.
Because they needed to get ready for 2020 and couldn’t handle any real ballot integrity reforms.
One wonders how many million votes DJT really blew them out by to overcome Hillary’s sure thing.
Never forget the absolutely stunned looks on their fecal faces.
Yep. The stall was their insurance.
Oh God, I pray this is true and WILL happen.
Getting GA. cleaned up would be a MAJOR Victory. It NEEDS to happen.
That seems sudden. Did Ruby Freeman give that deposition yet?
The GBI should be arresting Ruby Freeman unless all Stacy Abrams lets them do now is give speeding tickets on 1-4 and arrest retired cops?
Lindak, not yet on the deposition. I believe the depositions are on hold for about 30 days or so.
If they move the ball forward, God bless them. I hope they become filthy rich. Kind of like the evangelist in the Gospels, who was healing in the name of Jesus. Jesus said leave him alone as long as he’s announcing the Good News. Just be careful they don’t lead astray.
Starting to wonder if they’re toying with us.
Throw us the bones of GA and AZ…but Biden still has 270.
We get more lines about the fraud not being “THAT” bad and GOPers tell us to vote harder next time.
Nothing changes.
The entire 2020 election is fubar. Everybody knows this. Hell- I live in Wa. State and the last time we had a republican governor was in the the 70’s. Talk about the tyranny of the majority! With all mail in ballots, who knows what the real results are. BIG club!
Hey logboom, same as Oregon. Atiyeh was the last R governor, ( he left Jan 1987 if memory serves), anyway-
our states get a bad rap but when the real ‘Norwesters get to Hootin’, watch out!
Actually last one was 1980-1984, John Spellman.. Most thoughtful citizens in WA know that a forensic audit in WA would change the Govoner, and at least 2 representatives. Who knows how many local races.
When all of this comes out, the next thing is to Follow Their Money.
Find out where the Cash went in Kemps and RatFinksBoogers Accounts.
They actually need to uh.. “Dangle” from some kind of string, but loooooong Prison Sentences (Prison Paragraphs?) will be appropriate, and welcome.
Biden was duly elected by the electors of the electoral college who voted under a false pretense that Biden got more of the popular vote.
But there was no fraud in the actual electoral college vote…which is the only vote that counts.
I hate it, but that is reality
What about the down-ticket stuff. Is a majority of 51 still a majority if a couple of the senators are shown to be elected via fraud?
At the very least I’d think that the phrase “proven party of fraud” could be used forever, and that would erase any dreams of a some sort of mandate power for anyone associated with the D party.
That’s called fraud in the inducement.
Fraud vitiates everything.
That’s reality.
The EC vote was base entirely on fraud! What the hell are you talking about?
John Fredericks is a good man with a good heart and 100% trustworthy.
John Fredericks is a broadcaster, radio station owner, and small-time newspaper publisher.
John Fredericks is not an attorney.
One needs to listen to other knowledgeable voices involved in this lawsuit, such as the one who brought the lawsuit, Garland Favorito.
There are several good reasons not to read much into John Fredericks’ words here, not the least of which is the total corruption of Guvner Brian Kemp, plus Kemp’s legally-required involvement in any Certification/De-certification of any election.
Kemp will fight like all-get-out to keep himself and his corruption from being found out, no matter the cost to anyone else.
imo
Dunno, when I went to hear Bannon and his crew do a speaking event, John Fredericks was there. It was more or less a private event. I found it odd that Fredericks was there and did a radio interview w/Bannon at the time. Seeing this post makes me think differently of the evening. Local research is a very good idea.
I blame the Supreme court and Pence for this mess. They ignored the obvious.
“Fraud vitiates everything.” That enduring opinion was the crux of the landmark decision handed down by the U.S. Supreme Court in the case of the United States versus Throckmorton.
The actions of the Electoral college were based on fraud in the 2020 election.
If the Arizona Senate with draws its electors from Biden and awards them to President Trump. Then, the wrong set of Arizona Electors were sent, to the electoral college. Effectively depriving the Arizona citizens of their selected representation, breaking one of the founding principles of the Republic, “No taxation without representation”.
It follows that the wrong set of electors committed unintentional fraud when they voted, thereby breaking the Constitutional requirement, for certification of the 2020 election, by all the electoral college. Not Part of the electoral college, all.
That was another court. We’re all jumping the gun on the audit results, first of all. But even in the unlikely event Az & Ga couldn’t cover their tracks, and wholesale fraud is exposed, yelling “fraud vitiates everything” is meaningless when Roberts sits there with that infuriating, closed-mouth smirk on his face and comes up with some rationale to uphold the fraud. As he has done before. Likely he’ll say this is a criminal matter (without constitutional remedy) on which there is no criminal case to rule, thus it’s a political consideration for voters in the next election.
Forcing our military to act. Reference just below for added detail. Their allegiance is to the Constitution.
Maybe it’s time for VSGPDJT to sue these election fraudsters in civil court for the steal.
The military officers seeing that the Constitution was violated by the wrong set of electors making decisions, they were not entitled to, based upon fraud are now required to follow their service oath to support only the Constitution, without qualification.
So if the civilian government, avoids corrective action, are they forced to act?
It is interesting to know decertification is an option being considered.
However, why would you talk about it openly before you even know the results of an audit of the ballots?
Oh, please. Because we do know the result.
As Leonard Cohen sang: Everybody Knows.
If this occurs and I agree it’s a longshot, the State Legislature should request the immediate removal of Raffensberger and his staff to be replaced by dependable and trustworthy leadership agreed upon by Republican leadership… Then, fight the Feds to the Supreme Court if necessary…
Beach doesn’t say what he is basing his beliefs on though. Is it evidence he has heard about, or just his gut sense?
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Senator Brandon Beach: “I think it’s going to be so overwhelming in Fulton, I think it’s going to be anywhere from 17 to 34 thousand ballots it’s going to tell the story… Then I think we can ask for our 16 electoral college votes back and park em here…”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/georgia-state-senator-brandon-beach-think-can-ask-16-electoral-college-votes-back-park-em-video/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=PostTopSharingButtons&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons
IF the dominoes begin to fall and we all know that is a big IF, I fear and pray even harder for President Trump’s life. We all know these people will stop at nothing. We know it, we sometimes even joke about it but this is no joke as our President says “This is serious business folks” so that is my two cents pray and pray everyday because these people are truly evil in every sense of the word and will stop at nothing to keep their power.
How can you decertify an already certified election?
It depends on Georgia state law or code. How (sloppy) it was written. How it is interpreted.
But the question: How can you decertify an already certified election?
There is an answer.
In Georgia a certified election can be ‘recertified.’, Nothing about decertifying an election, but if you ‘recertify’ an election you kind of have to ‘decertify’ first. A play of words.
Georgia Code Title 21. Elections § 21-2-499
(a) Upon receiving the certified returns of any election from the various superintendents, the Secretary of State shall immediately proceed to tabulate, compute, and canvass the votes cast for all candidates described in subparagraph (a)(4)(A) of Code Section 21-2-497 and upon all questions voted for by the electors of more than one county and shall thereupon certify and file in his or her office the tabulation thereof. In the event an error is found in the certified returns presented to the Secretary of State or in the tabulation, computation, or canvassing of votes as described in this Code section, the Secretary of State shall notify the county submitting the incorrect returns and direct the county to correct and recertify such returns. Upon receipt by the Secretary of State of the corrected certified returns of the county, the Secretary of State shall issue a new certification of the results and shall file the same in his or her office.
It is all ‘legalese’ and how it is applied with the rest of the code. ?
After receiving and reviewing your legally transacted online mail order,
can people
subsequently and legally send back their found to be erroneous online mail order
and get a replacement – at no further costs?
Alternatively,
can people legally choose to get a refund?
…hmmm, what are the common and / or best practices for good business, etc
Could there be a sort of parallel analogy in there, somewhere?
Seeking the whole truth…
Keep on verifying the election, pandemic etc. information…
Where’s the GA Audit?
Tell y’all what. If nothing else theres a lot of crooks in AZ and GA. Scared shitless right now. That makes me happy.Very very happy.
Decertification of electors would at the very least place a bigger cloud on the legitimacy of the current occupant of the WH. It would also further erode the trust in the Supreme Court for refusing to address the issue.
No matter how all this turns out, the Supreme Court has suffered irretrievable, incalculable loss.
We have NO functioning branch of governance at this time.
Possibly, We the People are beginning to see we must engage locally.
“Hopium” Is believing that if 2020 is not corrected, that the criminals would stop and not do the same thing in 2022,24 and on?
Not only 2020 but, 18,16,14,12,08. Once these criminals discovered how well it worked in Venezuela with Chavez/Madura amongst other countries these subversive creeps didn’t hesitate to employ it in the USA. Even the blessed Jiimmy “the peanut” Carter sanctified the fraud. Then presto, one of the nicest, wealthiest nations in South America was turned into a 3rd world sh_thole. Oh, that’s a feature of Marxism, not a glitch.
If this is not corrected there will be no more “free & fair elections” anywhere in the world and one way to confirm this is the MSM says “free & fair elections” constantly. The exact opposite is always the truth with the news actors and their masters.
So when you hear someone say “hopium” it’s classic Alinsky, ridicule. Using that insipid word implies that if we expect a true free & fair election, we somehow are the dummies.
Do a full forensic audit of the election, show us dummies that B-B-B-Biden legitimately received 81+ million votes and we’ll salute the flag and get on with the demise of the USA.
But I know they don’t want to do that, why?
StanH fantastic point!
Many trolls use “hopium” as subtle psyops.
It’s not “hopium.” We have plain and simple hope.
And faith.
Indeed. Not only hope, but hope with action. True forensic audits must be done and let the chips fall where they may.
Excellent, StanH. Thank you for this post.
The court of public opinion is the first step
How to deal with a president who took office via fraud is uncharted waters .
The Constitution does not address or provide a remedy for fraudulent certification of electors after a candidate assumes office. Courts have ruled the purported winner via fraud could not take office but these cases occurred before either candidate took office.
Claiming the only remedy is Impeachment is a specious legal argument because the impeachment proceeding assumes the president to be removed was duly elected
Moreover , if impeachment was the only legal remedy for a president who took office via fraud, then both the President and Vice President would have to be removed. Then the issue arises if this were to occur who should assume the office. It should not be the Speaker of House but the candidate who actually won the election.
Don’t kid yourself. If the audits prove Biden illegitimate, he won’t stay as Pres, Kamala’ll be gone too, and Nancy won’t be Pres, either. Doesn’t matter the specific mechanism of removal, it’ll get done.
There is much wishful thinking going on out there – at root we are in a spiritual battle between good and evil for whether this Divinely-inspired nation will continue to exist (which will require reversing the Coup of November 3, 2020).
We are in uncharted Constitutional waters. Methinks that JOB #1 right now is forensic audits in the key states – not allowing RINO and Democrat politicians to derail within those states, nor the DOJ preventing externally.
The Supreme Court is not to be trusted (boy, am I stating the obvious). But if incontrovertible evidence is produced of the stolen election – especially with CCP involvement* – then the dark side will be placed in the untenable position of arguing that an unelected “administration” should be allowed to remain in place, and the duly-elected President barred from taking his rightful place.
The blue-pill media (they are NOT “mainstream”) will not be able to paper that over, nor the GOP continue to pretend that this was a “free and fair election.”
The bad guys (basically all of DC and the media) know what will happen if the fraud is exposed – possibly including the death penalty for some due to TREASON – so will continue to do everything in their power to suppress. That is why I think the forensic audits are JOB #1.
*I am convinced that the evidence exists because I am convinced that we were subjected to a “color revolution” involving both enemies foreign and enemies domestic.
Bingo!
Well said.
“may potentially decertify”?
A double hedge. Practically a certainty—right?
Never gonna happen.
Accusations of racism and subsequent Antifa/BLM riots.
Just saying………
GA GOP Chairman George Shafer.
Vernon Jones, who is running for GA gov, is questioning why DOJ is suing on GA over the election integrity law.
FTA: Georgia gubernatorial candidate Vernon Jones said U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland is suing Georgia unfairly for its new voting law when officials in other states impose the same standards upon their voters.
But Jones emailed supporters Sunday and said USDOJ officials need to evaluate why they are singling out Georgia.
“Everyone has weighed in on the Biden DOJ’s lawsuit against Georgia – but no one is talking about why the federal government is suing Georgia, and not any of the other 17 states that have enacted some 28 laws to secure our elections since the 2020 debacle. This partisan DOJ is targeting Georgia because our governor and secretary of state are the only ones who went out of their way to tout our election as being the most secure election in Georgia history, while simultaneously pushing for more secure elections in the future. But [Brian] Kemp and [Brad] Raffensperger can’t have it both ways and U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland knows it. The DOJ quickly recognized our leadership’s contradictory actions as an area of weakness it could exploit,” Jones told supporters in an email.
https://georgiastarnews.com/2021/06/28/vernon-jones-asks-why-joe-bidens-doj-isnt-suing-other-states-for-their-voting-laws/
We are at the third signal event in our history.
1. the revolution
2. the Civil War
3. this
Make a list of the essentials that got us through before.
That’s the list to focus on.
Without those essentials we will not survive.
We can reorganize with a convention of the states.
That is, after we get through this time.
I recommend listening to the last 10 weeks of the Hillsdale Dialog.
The last two weeks were on de Toqueville.
If we do not understand the material in those dialogs I am referring to, our understanding of what we are, how we got here, what is under attack, and how to defend ourselves will be so defective as to strongly militate for our failure now.
The participants (I don’t think) are thinking along those lines but I am. There are a handful of nearly or equally important resources I can think of but that’s enough for right now.
Prayer, without consistent prayer on all our parts, we will not make it through. This last bit is my 2¢.
Have a nice day.
(wr is starting!)
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At this point I doubt that “decertification” is an option.
Otherwise, “decertification” could be used as a political cudgel, and impromptu referendum at every turn during a president’s tenure.
Obviously, it is to be devoutly wished that Biden/Harris be removed from office. But the mechanism by which this may be accomplished does not exist.
Best that could happen is the overt delegitimization of this Administration. Lame duck in less than 6 months in.
Yes, we are in uncharted waters.
If the senate race is included in the audit and decertification threat, this is a FIRST.
To date, ALL efforts have separated and walled off the Presidential election fraud from the rest of the 2020 Election. That in effect, leaves current congressional members elected in 2020 SEATED to legislate or act a fool in DC.
Yes, the suspicious cat is warranted. Let’s see where this goes.