The House is determined to advance further gun control legislation as an action priority for Democrats. Unfortunately eight republican House members are supportive of the Democrat effort to restrict gun ownership [HR8].
The republicans in the House who voted in support of the background check bills are: Vern Buchanan (R-FL-16), Mario Diaz-Balart (R-FL-25), Brian Fitzpatrick (R-PA-1), Will Hurd (R-TX-23), Peter T. King (R-NY-2), Brian Mast (R-FL-18), Chris Smith (R-NJ-4), and Fred Upton (R-MI-6).
WASHINGTON DC – […] “The first bill, [HR 8 HERE] which passed 227-203, is designed to close loopholes to ensure background checks are extended to private and online sales that often go undetected, including at gun shows. The legislation includes limited exceptions allowing temporary transfers to prevent imminent harm, for use at a target range and for gifts from family, among others.”
Specifically, it prohibits a firearm transfer between private parties unless a licensed gun dealer, manufacturer, or importer first takes possession of the firearm to conduct a background check. The prohibition does not apply to certain firearm transfers, such as a gift between spouses in good faith.
The second bill, which passed 219-210, would extend the review period for background checks from three to 10 days. (more)
Of course my RINO rep. Brian Fitzpatrick, voted for the bill. He is worthless.
A carpetbagger. He moved from California only for the purpose of running for the position newly opened due to the shenanigans of the PA Supreme Court and Gov. Wolf.
I share your pain. They must be voted out in 2022 or we’ll have to move. That’s the choice I’ve come to realize will have to be. Of course the feds and their gun registry might force me to migrate sooner.
If we even do have a chance to vote in 2022, with them dems doing all the screw ups don’t be surprised if we don’t get what we would like. Demonrats need to go, Praying that the Lord God will have His will be done, soon, just my impatience…
Living in PA also, I feel your pain. My Rep is Dan Meuser who at least votes the right way. Is their any way that Fitzpatrick could be primaried? If yes, could a MAGA candidate win that district? I know upper Bucks is very liberal, but are there enough MAGA types in lower Bucks to win (assuming cheating and fraud are resolved first)?
Lower Bucks is even worse!
This district was weakened when the demonrats pulled off that mid decade gerrymander 4 years ago. I’d settle for a moderate conservative at this point but Bucks County GOP has a way of getting potential
challangers to back down though.
Upper Bucks is not very liberal. But Lower Bucks County is, especially as you get closer to Bensalem and Philly.
The Bucks GOPe is more interested in their crumbs. They will throw the County and America First under the bus to keep their crumbs. That is why Andy Meehan got zero support against Fitzpatrick.
Inside baseball: Fitzpatrick regularly confers with public sector unions in the lower end of the County. He is a SuperRINO.
The ring counties around Philly are a political train wreck right now. The local GOPe has totally betrayed them.
I’m very disappointed in Fitzpatrick!! Now in Middletown twnsp, the dems and rhinos are infiltrating supervisor positions. Attorneys also. A disgrace.
Fitzpatrick always votes for the Dem agenda. He’s a damn Democrat. And stupid conservatives continue to vote for him because he has a R next to his name. Wise up. I’d rather a Dem won the seat. At least the GOP would be rid of a traitor.
Same for Chris Smith in Jersey. Great guy , strong pro life , pro vet but has gone full RINO lately . Very disappointing Maybe 40 years as a congressman is enough? Well it’s Jersey. Pretty much full Totalitarian here.
Sundance, the current congressman from Tx District 23 is Tony Gonzales. Will Hurd retired. I am definitely interested, because that is my district….won’t be the 1st time Tony has acted like Will?
Ok—went looking and Mr. Gonzales voted no.??
So did I. No Texas GOP Representative voted for.
Compare and contrast:
John F. Kennedy’s policy on gun control
Should there be more restrictions on the current process of purchasing a gun?
John F. Kennedy’s answer is based on the following data:
PUBLIC STATEMENTS Answer: No
Reference: “JFK: Lifetime NRA Member, Second Amendment Defender With the 50th anniversary of John F. Kennedy’s (JFK) assassination”.
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Gun Control in Nazi Germany: Gun control was a part of Hitler’s Final Solution.
Gun control was a significant policy of Nazi Germany (National Socialist Party) used to silence dissent and perpetrate the Holocaust. Adolf Hitler used the SS to enforce laws that completely disarmed the German populace and rendered the Jewish victims defenseless. Despite this, gun control continues to be advocated by many on the modern-day political left.
Kennedy or Hitler – the choice is yours.
Ask a Holocaust Survivor if they were armed (if not in Warsaw) and how it turned out for their poor souls. May God have His mercy.
Read elsewhere that Kinzinger voted for this as well.
Yep, he’s a scumbag also.
little scumbag
Kinsinger only wants American guns used in other countries for his and Liz Cheney’s Stupid Endless Wars.
However, I think they would both be fine for guns being used against any Americas who would ever again try to exercise Freedom of Assembly and Freedom of Speech in the now Forbidden City of Imperial City District of Corruption.
They’ll keep chipping away at the 2nd Amendment until it’s gone, if Americans let them.
Illinois is one of the most anti-gun states in the country.
Many shitbirds flaunt gun laws and commit serious repeated felonies only to be given low Bail or no Bail by the IL courts. The then go on to prey on the citizens of IL, while IL enforces gun laws on law-abiding citizens with an iron fist, keeping those law-abiding citizens from exercising their 2nd Amendment Right, while at a whim the State ignores laws when it serves to prohibit or slow walk citizens from exercising their right to protect themselves.
In Illinois there are multiple infringements places upon people to exercise their 2nd constitutional right.
To own a firearm in any practical manner in IL you must pay a significant amount of money and apply for a Firearm Owner’s Identification Permit (“FOID” card) which allows you to buy a weapon and ammunition in IL, after passing a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) background check.
Then you must wait a number of days to take possession of a purchased weapon. If my memory is correct the weapon waiting period is 7 days.
No retailer will sell you either without a “FOID” card.
The law states that this permit must be approved or denied in 30 days.
The “FOID” permit provision was implemented in the 1960’s.
Circa 2013 after many years of lawsuits against IL disallowing concealed carry, the State lost and began issuing Concealed Carry Permits with a separate numeration system from the “FOID” Permit.
From that point forward to exercise your right to protect yourself in IL you need two permits each at a significant cost.
In the case of a Concealed Carry Permit (“CCP”) several hours of training is also required and not cheap. You also need to submit fingerprints.
The CCP application I signed circa 2013 stated the following:
“I understand that I am required to personally complete this Firearm Concealed Carry License Act Application and by submitting said application, I waive all my privacy and confidentiality rights and privileges under all federal and state laws, including those limiting access to juvenile court, criminal justice, psychological, or psychiatric records or any records relating to my institutionalization. Further I authorized the Illinois State Police to use the digital photo, demographic information and signature from my Driver’s License or State Identification to create my FCCA License and authorize the Illinois State Police to share my information as described in the warning contained herein.”
Remember, no member of shitbird nation is signing-off on these infringements.
And what “privileges”? And evidently it’s in perpetuity lol.
Eventually and presumably for expediency the State made the numeration identifying the “FOID” and Concealed Carry Permit holder the same number.
With every year more and more citizens of IL have come to realize that laws are not being being evenly applied and the safety of their families and themselves is increasingly in jeopardy.
As a result in IL there is a back-log of roughly 150,000 “FOID” permit applications alone.
The average processing time is 6-10 months.
I have a change-of-address on my permits and I’ve been waiting 8 months for the new cards.
Here’s how the State’s hierarchy in processing the 15oK back-log goes:
1st New “FOID” Permits
2nd New. Concealed Carry Permits
3rd Change of Addresses.
In the case of a change-of-address, first they will process the “FOID” Permit.
They will not even begin processing the Change-of-address Concealed Carry Permits until after that.
That means another 8-10 months till the Concealed Carry Permit is issued.
If you wallet is stolen or lost?
You have to start all over as though you’re a new applicant. No gun shop is going to sell you ammunition with out a “FOID” card.
In spite of the law being clear, it is obvious the State is intentionally creating infringement after infringement to prohibit the citizens of IL from exercising their constitutional right to protect themselves.
The State says the surge in permits has caused the back-log.
It’s been reported that huge amounts of money paid in fees for these permits have been diverted to other State functions.
Funny thing, evidently if you are not a citizen of IL you can walk right in to a gun shop and buy ammunition without a “FOID” card.
I’ll say it again, in spite of the law being clear, it is obvious the State is intentionally creating infringement after infringement to prohibit the citizens of IL from exercising their constitutional right to protect themselves. again, in spite of the law being clear, it is obvious the State is intentionally creating infringement after infringement to prohibit the citizens of IL from exercising their constitutional right to protect themselves.
As soon as I can I’m getting the hell out of IL.
Any suggestions of a good State?
Edit…
Where law-abiding citizens & gun owners are concerned, Illinois is one of the most anti-gun states in the country.
Woooooooooow…… That’s crazy. Just out of curiosity are the ammo shelves there empty?
Very hard to find ammo here in Ohio. Most shelves are empty. A lot of places have limits on what ya can buy.
It’s hard just to get shotgun shells. It’s crazy here.
Shelves are very empty.
I’ve never seen it so bad.
Suing gun manufacturers and creating obstacles for allied trades is another avenue the left is using to disarm the American people.
None of us law-abiding people wish to have to use these tools against another person.
But you take the rioting that occurred last summer, and the criminal friendly policies adopted by leftist run cities like Chicago and other likeminded cities and take the national debt policies inconsideration, that alone, gives people concern to protect themselves.
I talked to a salesman and found out there the trucks come in at one of the stores where my husband (tries) buys ammo. He says there is a line at the door when they open and everything is gone within the hour. For months my husband has been trying to buy 20 gauge shells and has never found any.
Tx, but beware of our dictator gov Abbott, even though he is supposedly (r) he made Texans to go through the power outage for almost a week, he must be getting paid under that table to do this sort of crap! No gov in their right mind would have been that lazy of not having a snow plow in the whole CITY OF AUSTIN
. Didn’t even spray the streets with the salt chemical before it was snowing or freezing rain. Must be dealing with the green energy new deal garbage! Not updating the electric power plants or the nuclear power to be sure everything was up to date…Just my opinion, Austin is getting so lib is ridiculous.
It’s outrageous that some Republicans would go along with this.
It’s outrageous that ANY Republican would go along with this….
Yep
I think we need to adjust our thought processes, sadly. While you are correct, and I agree with you absolutely, the new reality is that it is outrageous for us to think Republicans won’t go along with this.
Hah! Now that’s some hardcore cynicism, Menagerie!
I agree with adjusting our expectations of current reality, but I’m concerned that if we aren’t outraged at Republicans’ cowardice and willingness to go along with the communists, we won’t be sufficiently motivated to make firmer, louder demands of them: either fight against the DemoCommunist attempts to disarm the population or be pushed aside….. (just as soon as we regain control of the election system..?)
If we are even able to vote again, remember what the demonrats are doing trying to get rid of the electoral college.
Yes I am aware of the DemoCommunists efforts underway to bypass / ignore the U.S. Constitution. Ultimately they will be unsuccessful.
Thus the logic: To prevent drunk drivers from killing, reduce ability for sober drivers to be on the road.
Well, who are they going to take the guns away from, inner city black and hispanic gangbangers?! Come on, man!
More to come!
– fascist uniparty
I suspect the Uniparty will ultimately resurrect that UN resolution and gun control legislation from 2009. As I recall, a lot of GOPe were on board, but then Fast and Furious went public and gained traction and put an end to that gun control avenue.
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The government cannot control the borders from Illegal aliens!
And we spend a staggering $750 Billion a year for our now worse than useless military. But they are Woke and fighting Global Warming, so it’s all good!
We, the taxpayers send literally hundreds of millions down to Central America– FOR ANTI POVERTY PROGRAMS! The amount of money sent is larger than their GDP and yet we get their poor fleeing “poverty.” What the hell are they doing with our money?!!!!!
Laundering it.
My tree, your tree, the tree of this Republic is slowly dying. What shall we do? De-worm it? Spray for bugs? Water??
You pull it up from the roots and burn it. Then Mount St. Helen it, then lay a new foundation rooted in the Constitution and forbid anyone and their extended families from profiting when elected.
close enough… I was going to say you burn it to the ground…
Also adding term limits, something that should have been done back in the 70’s when Nance, Mitch, & Chucky were (don’t know if they were) elected, they would be gone way before they did this damage…
I read those two new phony Miami Republicans also voted for the bill, Giminez and Salazar. They also had voted for the third impeachment.
I just saw that Salazar is an assistant whip to Scalise.
Salazar is Middle Of The Road, if you’ve ever seen an interview with her. At least the interviews I’ve seen. Center-Right at best.
So Salazar must be stupid because she doesn’t understand what she is voting for.
Oh, my. A Florida Cuban Marxist lite. Dime a dozen.
I live here. I know! Go HOME!
I don’t think very many of them really do know what they are supposedly voting for, but everything is against us, we must give info to our neighbors to help them understand the way dictatorships work & get them to vote against them!
With their logic, one should have to have a car dealer be a go-between in a private car sale so the dealer can check if the buyer is a convicted drunk driver.
It’s been this way in Maryland for ‘restricted weapons’ (aka: handguns and ‘assault weapons’, and Class III) for years now. For now, long guns (rifles & shotguns) don’t require FFL facilitated NICs checks for sale/transfer transactions.
Ppl have been yelling from rooftops that THEY will come for our 2nd A. The commies will never be able to have full control until they have all the guns.
anyone who willing gives them up deserved never to have them in first place.
we owe to all those who fought and died for America and our free rights to pass along to future generations the same freedoms we were once afforded.
This is only going to apply to new gun sales, otherwise it is unenforceable. Be very careful who you sell a personal gun too. Everything will go underground. There are a lot of gun dealers who are going to go out of business. Someone with a lot of guns, just got richer.
Slippery slope, camel
nose under tent and a litany of other adages about how things like this start.
It may be unenforceable up to the point they pass a law requiring you to register for every ammo purchase.
Followed by a strict quota of how much ammo you can buy per year.
as well as cost, don’t forget taxes, they will probably even charge
a tax on the box the ammo comes in.
They will never take the guns. Not enough people to do it. They would have to hit every house at the same time. If not all hell would break loose.
They will take the ammunition right off the shelves. Or make it so expensive you can’t buy it. If anything
It will be interesting to see how many officers who have sworn an oath to defend the constitution will be inclined to lay down thier lives to bring us communism.
I think about that every time I drive by a local police car. This rush to Communism affects their families too. I can imagine the conversations at the dinner table. I pray, that in the end, they make the right choice, or risk becoming the enemy.
They are going to make decisions based on their paycheck, their bennies and their retirement.
Mark my words.
Didn’t we see plenty of brownshirts over the past year arresting people and families in empty parks because they didn’t have a mask or some other nonsense.
Sorry LEO’s that read here, but that is how a majority of you are going to roll.
That would be a good thing to have conceal carry, if you can get it, at least you would have maybe a 1/2 chance…
Law enforcement in my family – two generations. They’ll turn in their badges before doing that. Ain’t gonna happen.
Watch this before telling us, “Ain’t gonna happen” …
is there a way you can post this on GAB? Much info needs to be released that we the people would like to hear. Please & thank you for sharing..
Actually its best to keep your badges, just don’t go out of your way to enforce or advertise that you aren’t enforcing an unconstitutional law.
I know several law enforcement officers who have said police are not going to enforce these laws. Number one, with the defund movement they have bigger priorities with fewer resources and number two a lot of cops also legally own guns the left seek to ban.
Vern? I’ve always been a bit suspicious of Vern but this takes the cake. Bradenton/Sarasota are you listening?
Vern is one of those useless idiots we elect year after year, who does NOTHING to improve ANYTHING.
Not to surprised..Vern is like Scott.. if there is money in it… I ‘m up for sale.. comes to mind.
Sen. Hubert Humphrey’s statement, Know Your Lawmakers, Guns, Feb. 1960, p. 4 (1960): “Certainly one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of citizens to keep and bear arms. This is not to say that firearms should not be very carefully used and that definite safety rules of precaution should not be taught and enforced. But the right of citizens to bear arms is just one more guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard against a tyranny which now appears remote in America [not at all remote now] , but which historically has proved to be always possible.”
Those RINOs who haven’t arranged their fortunes yet and still need to retain office for several more terms will only change their ways if they see a boatload of their fellow RINOs lose due to conservative rejection. As long as we are stuck trying to reform the GOP, a good start would be to slash and burn all the RINOs. We have seen time and again, when it matters, they always sell us out.
Curious about two things in Paragraph 2, “The republicans in the House who voted in support of the background check bills are: Vern Buchanan (R-FL-16), Mario Diaz-Balart (R-FL-25), Brian Fitzpatrick (R-PA-1), Will Hurd (R-TX-23), Peter T. King (R-NY-2), Brian Mast (R-FL-18), Chris Smith (R-NJ-4), and Fred Upton (R-MI-6).”
First, do you think it is just a careless error that “r” is not capitalized in the first line since the names of parties are capitalized in the rest of the article, or is there some meaning to it not being capitalized in this case?
Second, what do the digits following each legislators’ name represent? All I could think of was their years in office until I saw Peter King’s name followed by a 2, which is definitely not his years in office.
TIA!
The number represents the District.
I think the biggest reason we now see and understand for why the Left and the Democratic Party are zeroed in on the 2nd Amendment is precisely because they know that without it, the population is defenseless against their goon squads like AntiFA and BLM.
That’s why Rittenhouse is such a pariah to them because he aptly and correctly demonstrated the appropriate use and reason of the 2nd Amendment. When the people are armed and can defend themselves that puts a strong limit on what AntiFa and BLM thugs can do to them.
We have seen how AntiFA and BLM successfully intimidated Supreme Court Justices, other judges and politicians with their tactics. They even intimidated the people from acting and police departments by threatening to defund if they didn’t allow them to wreak mayhem on the streets. If the 2nd Amendment is taken away and gun confiscation ensues, then these groups will have a free hand in implementing their socialist agenda in our nation by sheer intimidation.
This cannot be allowed to happen and any so-called GOPer who would vote in any way other than to strengthen the 2nd Amendment should be kicked out of that party!
I still will say this, the GOP is dead. It’s time for a new party. The American Party or whatever you want to call it. I am a Patriot. Don’t call me republican, conservative or any other term to denote the so-called right. I believe in economic Nationalism, patriotism, American sovereignty, the right of the people to keep and bare arms, religious freedom for Christians and America First! Any American who subscribes to these ideals and who loves this country is Patriot in the fight. We cannot continue to rely on a party like the GOP that has failed us over and over again, despite winning the majority of the elections the past 40 years. With how much the GOP has won, the country should be further right than it is, but instead, we are on the ropes!
Time for a change! American Party! America First! MAGA! Trump – DeSantis 2024!
DUFRST,
Your thoughts are commendable. However, when the democrats split into separate parties for the 1860 election it led to the victory of the republican candidate, Abraham Lincoln. Most recently, in the 1992 election Ross Perot had the effect of splitting the republican vote which led the election of Slick Willie. While the republican party is still filled with far too many political hacks and self-interested RINO’s. Nevertheless, the local populations from their respective districts voted them into office and it needs to be left to them to vote in a more Constitutional supporting candidate in the next election. Moreover, Americans need to pay attention to the local elections and take control from the bottom up. That is not to say we cannot simultaneously make corrections in office holders from the top. During 2018 and 2020 many of the never-Trumpers in the republican party were replaced by more conservative, America-First candidates. Granted, further purging must occur. Nonetheless, it would be quicker to purge the current party than attempt to start a new one. After-all, people, and especially Americans are creatures of habit. The history of party affiliation in our nation indicates that party loyalty runs deep.
With regard to the para-military wing of the democrats, ANTIFA and BLM; your comments are spot on. However, what they and their ilk fail to recognize is the consequences of their stated objectives. Particularly with regard to defunding the police. Many patriots sat still and quit during this past spring and summer filled with riots, looting, arson, and murder believing that it is the responsibility of law enforcement to put down the illegal actions. Additionally, almost all of these repugnant atrocities occurred in deep blue cities, and there may have been a certain element of satisfaction in watching these miscreants destroy the lives and property of those who voted for the party of violence and anarchy. Nevertheless, if and when these Marxists are successful in defunding the police, they will be removing the thin blue line which law-abiding Americans respect and have so far kept them from retaliation. If and when there is no longer a law enforcement agency to protect the citizens from the anarchists, the people will have no other option than to take the God-given and natural right of the law of self-defense of person and property into their own hands. They (BLM/Antifa/Democrats) need to think long and hard about what they are asking for. Of course, this is a rhetorical statement, since they clearly do not think through the potential consequences of their actions. They could lead our nation down the path of cancel culture, but it will most likely result in their culture that is brutally, swiftly, and permanently canceled.
Your faithful servant,
Sentinel
I was going to get another gun that was one that had a clip.
My other ones are revolvers. However, the issue now a days is getting Ammo.
I don’t see either of these bills getting 60 votes in the Senate.
Is that when the FBI stages a fake mass shooting? Or a real one, they don’t care if people die so they can advance their agenda.
Do they need 60 votes anymore or did Schumer change the rules to needing only a simple majority?
From the Declaration of Independence:
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly, all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.
From the Constitution:
2nd Amendment:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.
From Noah Websters American Dictionary of the English Language (1828 Edition):
Arm: verb transitive [Latin armo; French armer; Spanish armar; Italian armare; from Latin arma.]
1. To furnish or equip with weapons of offense, or defense; to provide with arms, weapons, or means of attack or resistance; to take arms.
So, does “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms” mean we have only the right to keep hunting or target practice type weapons? Why did the Framers of the Constitution choose the word “Arms” rather than hunting rifle? They did so in order that the people would always be “armed” with the instruments necessary to form into “well-regulated Militia” which are necessary to the security of a free State. Then we might ask, security from what, our Founders clearly meant security from any government which desires to infringe (violate) the unalienable rights we have prior to the establishment of any government. That is why the rights are “guaranteed” in the Constitution vice being granted by the Constitution. Any authority that can grant a right has the same authority to take it away.
So the role of government is to secure those rights vice grant them, as it is so clearly stated in the Declaration of Independence: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”
In case you are wondering, the additional unalienable rights other than life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness inferred by the words “among which” are outlined in the Bill of Rights also known as the first 10 Amendment to our Constitution.
Below is a small sample of the conversations during the debates considering the ratification of the Constitution concerning the right to keep and bear arms. It is quite evident there was no talk about the need to keep and bear arms for hunting and target practice but much on the need to defend liberty against the government which history tells us are the agents who press for gun control.
“Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of.” – James Madison; as stated in Federalist No. 48 on February 1, 1788
“To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.” – Richard Lee; as stated in his Federal Farmer essay Number 18 on January 25, 1788.
“What country can preserve its liberties, if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms.” – Thomas Jefferson; as stated in his letter to William Stephens Smith on November 13, 1787.
“Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? It is feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American . . . . The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.” – Tench Coxe; as stated in his essay published in the Pennsylvania Gazette on February 20, 1788.
“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States.” – Noah Webster; as stated in his essay, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution published on October 10, 1787.
“When the resolution of enslaving America was formed in Great Britain, the British Parliament was advised by an artful man, who was governor of Pennsylvania, to disarm the people; that it was the best and most effectual way to enslave them; but that they should not do it openly, but weaken them, and let them sink gradually, by totally disusing and neglecting the militia.” – George Mason; as stated in his speech at the Virginia Ratifying Convention on June 14, 1778.
Contrasting the views of our founders are few quotes from well documented historical tyrants who thought gun control was the best means to secure complete power over their people:
“All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The communist party must command all the guns, that way, no guns can ever be used to command the party.” – Mao Tze Tung, Nov 6, 1938
China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, over 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
“The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non (an essential condition) for the overthrow of any sovereignty.” – Adolf Hitler, April 11, 1942.
Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, over 12 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
Josef Stalin, the sole leader of the Soviet Union from 1924 to 1953, said: “If the opposition disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall disarm it ourselves.”
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, over 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Every Dictatorship that ever was enacts a registration of firearms after assuming control.
Once that is done the dictatorship then seizes those firearms.
This has been the historical sequence for a few hundred years. During the revolutionary war one of the first things the Brits did when they saw that the colonists were getting troublesome was to attempt to seize firearms and the local armories.
The shot heard round the world occurred because of the brits marching on Lexington and Concord to do this very action.
They were repulsed by the colonists.
We must do the same.
These sons of bitches are terrified of us. With the media on their side, they feel emboldened. With tech on their side, objections to their overreach is silenced. They are evil, not stupid. They know that there is a growing resistance and resentment so the only option is to disarm us. There are between 500 and 600 million legal firearms in this Nation. Good luck to them. They picked the wrong battle. They will need a lot of body bags.
“Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.” (Quote that is often misattributed to Thomas Jefferson). It actually came from John Barnhill in 1914 during a debate on socialism.
Source:
John Basil Barnhill, Barnhill-Tichenor Debate on Socialism, As It Appeared in the National Rip-Saw (Saint Louis, Mo.: The National Rip-Saw Pub. Co., 1914), 34.
“With tech on their side, objections to their overreach is silenced. ”
“They picked the wrong battle. They will need a lot of body bags.”
With tech on their side, they freeze bank accounts of all gun and ammo purchasers. Who goes into the body bags?
And cancel a citizen’s access to EVERYTHING else.
Do you not already have ‘everything else’, prepper?
I am not a ‘prepper’ per se, but no amount of prepping is going to save any from the wrath and oppressive punishment for anyone that does not submit and bend to the will of the Progressive tyrants.
Which side are you on skippy?
Let’s try and freeze 200,000,000 bank accounts.. the economy would stop over night and mass civil unrest…
First.. lots of people don’t have bank accounts.. because of bad credit.. they deal in cash or buy money orders..
Let’s see.
What has happened the past year?
HINT:
The Globalist oligarchs just crashed the world’s economy to get rid of PDJT.
You think they care about the “economy” of firearms owners in the USA?
“mass civil unrest”
Previously mentioned Globalist oligarchs have been openly advocating for a few less billion people on the planet, so there is more for them.
They are not going to give a flip to obtain their objective.
The people behind the scenes that are pulling the strings are not going to be affected by civil unrest here.
They need to be doxxed. Seriously. I don’t care how rich they are. They come out of hiding every so often.
Civil unrest is only a prelude to war which is their real objective world wide, believe it or not Russia is the only major country actually openly fighting them.
“Russia is the only major country actually openly fighting them.”
Which is why the Luciferian globalist oligarchs kept a forced animosity going in between PDJT & Putin in Russia throughout his administration.
Both of them know who the real enemy is.
Yep. All that’s needed now is the spark. Fools.
As the Capitol is surrounded by an armed mob. Very Stalinarian of them.
Vote Fred Upton out a real rino. DC vs Americans
Democrats are human filth. Every Republican that caters to them or enables them is much worse than that. They must be removed from office. Do not fall for the spin on their votes. GET THEM OUT!!!!!!!!
I hope every gun owner knows and understands that it is imperative we do not obey any attempt to take away our guns and we have to put pressure on the congressmen/women who are supporting these background checks. If our guns are taken away then our ability to resist is gone. We are given this right by the U.S. Constitution and we cannot allow it to be taken away. This line must be drawn and it cannot be allowed to move. We have to hold on to this.
They won’t be able to take the guns away. That is a statistically impossible task. That’s why they try and attack us and our children and grandchildren from every possible angle – from apostate Marxist churches to public education to unConstitutional federal overreach etc…
We are given this RIGHT BY GOD!!! The Constitution merely acknowledges that fact. ‘Shall NOT be infringed.` Government has NO say in the free exercise thereof.
Democrats and RINOS hate women. They kill their babies, traffic in baby parts, are out to wreck women’s sports, love child sex trafficking, believe that transgenderism is a feature not a gross immorality, terrorize women with the harmful myth of “toxic masculinity”, and want to take away a woman’s right to self-defense, and so much more. I keep expecting a lightening bolt from heaven to literally disintegrate the Capitol Complex!
And Democrats are stupid. CW2.0 kicks off when they come for the guns. It’s a very bad idea. They should just back off now. Why are they so intent on throwing gasoline on the fire of the last few months? Because… the foreign powers they are beholden to, ultimately, know that they can take their best advantage of America if we go to war against ourselves. That’s a fact. The Democrats and RINOS are complicit in a hostile takeover of America.
Peter King is not in congress anymore. How can he vote for this?
HR8 was voted on in 2019 but didn’t get past the Senate. Maybe that was the 2019 vote roll.
Come on Texas, TEXIT
Yeah, never give an inch I know.
But in the end felony checks for everyone who buys a firearm anywhere is obviously must happen.
That means sales / transfers through lic gun dealers.
It doesn’t even matter if most criminal firearms are stolen or blackmarket and not bought legally.
It won’t even be a talking point in 10 years.
BS!
Currently a felon cannot own or have access to a gun, for which there are a crap ton of federal and state laws saying so.
What makes you think that a felon is going to give a rats arse if yet another law is passed saying that they cannot own guns?!
Guess what?
Criminals criminals don’t give a flying fornicate about any stinking laws.
That’s why they’re called criminals.
What say you Comrade?
You’ve missed the point…I’m not claiming universal background checks will change the use of firearms by felons, what I am saying is that universal background checks are an easy sell to the suburban middle class who say, why not?
Get used to it, it’s inevitable.
The only think that is making sense is that the CIA/FBI haven’t created some mass shooting to help these arguments.
Either is coming in the next few days or something is up.
Smollett will do anything for money. Even witness fake mass shooting.
Balart, Buchanan and Mast are now toast in Florida. Waiting to see who President Trump supports to primary those three. Also, Rick Scott needs to get the same treatment!
“such as a gift between spouses in good faith.”
If nobody can question which gender someone wakes up identifying as one day, then nobody should be able to question who I choose as a spouse when selling a gun, for whatever length of time I choose.
The biggest question I have is, when the left continues down this road, when will they require registration and a waiting period when buying ammo?
One can claim they lost their guns in an unfortunate boating accident, but will the FBI be visiting because you purchased ammo last week for a gun you said you lost last month?
It’s shocking the 7 clowns who voted for this don’t realize or maybe don’t care that the left will not stop with just this latest grab.
First, they sidelined the NRA.
In my Democrat to English dictionary, “commonsense” translates to “nonsense”, especially when referring to gun laws.
I haven’t read the bill. Is there anything in there to keep criminals from buying and selling firearms? Thought not.
I know two people who were saved from death by displaying a firearm and the intent to use it. I know two victims of firearm violence, both 1st cousins, one a suicide, one a victim of a robbery gone wrong. I’d rather carry, thank ye kindly.
“ Specifically, it prohibits a firearm transfer between private parties unless a licensed gun dealer, manufacturer, or importer first takes possession of the firearm to conduct a background check.”
Dumbest law ever. Who would ever know? Who do they think is going to enforce this?
The Boneless Turkey Party is finished. Yeah more Boneless Turkeys voted against the bill then voted for it. The fact that the Repubs didnt close ranks against these 2nd Amendment bigots is why the Deplorables dont trust that worthless party anymore. Our Real President Trump cant save that party of wet noodle spined, weak kneed assholes- because they don’t want to be saved.. They are too far gone,too corrupt, bought and paid for by the CCP. Time for us to take the exit ramp.We The People have the right to dissolve this government when it no longer works for us. It’s not working for us- at all.
Agreed. I withdraw my consent.
a) slow breathing
b) good sight alignment
c) steady trigger pressure
gun control
The only thing that I see happening.. break ins at all gun stores will increase..
You can bet with the FBI holding up background checks.. that will encourage a Saturday night shopping spree.. and like drugs the black market in guns will go crazy.. and price will go up also..
Just like alcohol during prohibition.. ammunition will be manufactured and sold by cash deals..
Got to find ammo now or someone who makes ammo
https://www.ammunitiondepot.com/
all you want if you got the coin. Beans, bullion and bullets. Stock up while you can.
Keep an out on sgammo as well.
Good peeps, good service and decent pricing on a relative scale in today’s market.
Will check out. Thanks
The way I understand, or remember, is that in Oregon, we voted to close the gun show loop hole and all transfers , other than to immediate family, would require a background check for all firearm transfers- the catch was that the OSP are required to complete the background check within a very short amount of time, or the transfer could proceed . The paperwork that documents the transfer. is held, not to be made for use, unless a firearm was found to have been used in the commission of a crime.
I have it on good authority that the OSP has, and does allow this information to be used for anterior purposes.
All the RINOs must be purged.
Of course Trump just made that more difficult by reversing course and allowing the GOPe to use his name in fund raising to give money to the RINOs. Trump continues to take advice from those who want to do him (and MAGA movement) in. So frustrating.
Truth hurts, many dont want to hear this.
Load up…. even in Calimexistan you can load up.
Not for background checks, In reality it is just another gun registry.
Sounds pretty seriously infringing to me.
I realize I’m preaching to the choir…
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Chi-Com senator Diane Fineswine – D – Ca. has introduced an AR-15 and magazine ban into the senate.
Bill has not been assigned a number yet.
Text at fienstein.senate.gov
First, they need to know where the private firearms are. Next will come registration, followed by confiscation. In theory, this will remove about 75% of all guns. In reality, probably only 25%. But 25% is still significant.
I tend to harken back to Charlton Hestons words when they get serious about their disarmament agenda…from my cold, dead hand. My family lived through Nazi Germany pre and post WWII. Its no hyperbole.