A complete hot mess… The MAGA movement has a lot of work ahead.
House republican representatives voted 145-61 to keep Liz Cheney in power as the #3 in the leadership position within the House GOP. Only 61 House republicans voted to remove her.
WASHINGTON DC – Rep. Liz Cheney will keep her job as the No. 3 House Republican after a resounding victory on Wednesday evening, easily beating back a conservative-led push to oust her as conference chair for voting to impeach Donald Trump.
The effort by Trump loyalists to punish Cheney, the highest-ranking woman in GOP leadership, had been brewing for weeks and finally came to head during a heated, closed-door meeting that stretched for more than four hours as several dozen members defended or condemned her.
But in the end, the overwhelming majority of House Republicans voted on a secret ballot to keep Cheney in power: 145 Republicans voted against the resolution calling on her to step down, while just 61 voted for it, according to sources with knowledge of the tally. (read more)
I wonder what this says about McCarthy’s meeting with President Trump last week.
WEll, the upside is that it helps to keep the passions inflamed to have someone to hate that much, right?
from now on if their last name starts with an Mc we should probably oppose them. they don’t make good leaders. sarcasm. nothing against the Irish.
Hahaha and we have conservatives thinking we need to save the GOP, lol.
Save what about it?
TOO many cowards. Waaaaaay too many.
No party affiliation movement is the way to go. Not a party, just a movement not affiliated with either.
The GOP are dead without Trump. We MAGA can do it. We can without a doubt destroy the GOP.
I will never vote for a GOP again unless they prove to me they are MAGA. I would rather their be 100% Dems elected. The GOP are worthless. We need a third party.
As a Canadian I have no dog in the fight.
However our family is rabidly supportive of PDJT.
I agree 100% Dem, utter chaos would ensue quickly.
Folks would be begging for MAGA.
As it stands now, this is simply a slow march to death.
Utterly pathetic are your Republicons.
Please grow some, and support a new Party.
Obviously the body of the R Party is Democrat, and anti MAGA.
Plus there are too many relatives of the Bushes, Cheney’s and McCains around.
Dump them, they are truly a cancer.
God bless PDJT
Thanks for your viewpoint Dekester. I think the GOPe party honestly thinks they can outlast MAGA by time attrition and consistent narrative engineering.
I have been watching the Illlinois US Rep. Adam Kinzinger try to launch his PAC. His first interviews were to bash MAGA supporters as conspiracy theorists and whack jobs.
Thank you,
This site and its many fine posters are truly an inspiration, and a wealth of knowledge.
Cheers!
we’re not. unfortunately there are a few who are and they use the few to paint the whole movement with a broad brush. If someone wants to wear a tin foil hat they’re free to do so. that’s their business. as long as they’re Trump supporters i’m not going to put them down. i try to stay out of the nonsense and move along. We just have to make sure we get good candidates for 2022 and back Pres Trump should he run in 2024. Hoping,praying, anxiously waiting!
This is is how Kinzinger thinks… his first inclination is to disavow Trump supporters to create the illusion that the “real GOP” is embedded in his viewpoint.
Sad really as he will fail.
https://theratzpack.wixsite.com/patriotparty/forum
from the article:
“Cheney’s victory also represents a big win for House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, who at the start of the “family discussion” offered a full-throated defense of Cheney and made the case for her to stay in leadership — a critical boost for the Wyoming Republican.”
Does anyone know anything about that reported upcoming meeting McCarthy was going to have with President Trump?
Yes, the effort did not pass but I am going to celebrate those who voted –
but if it is all secret, then what good is that?
Didnt they already meet?
Yes…
Assume they voted for the lizard unless they publicly say otherwise
It will be interesting if WY MAGA is successful in removing Cheney.
She is already trailing her primary challenger by double digits, and has only 10% approval. I bet she doesn’t even run for re-election it would be such a bloodbath.
All politics is local and we MUST TAKE OVER at the local GOP levels. Then take over the state levels with overwhelming numbers. Until we do that we are wasting time and energy.
Just like the tea party did, huh?
Swamp creatures are gonna swamp.
Pretty simple. 145 we need to primary. Get rid of them all. I like it when I don’t have to research the backgrounds of people to who I donate. 145 just saved me a lot of time.
People wave the phrase “primary them” like it’s a magic wand, but the truth is–and we saw this during the Tea Party a decade ago–primarying an incumbent is hardly a surefire solution.
First, you sometimes end up with more than one primary opponent, and they end up serving as splitters who ensure the incumbent prevails. Second, some primary opponents end up being wolves in sheep’s clothing (i.e., RINOs in MAGA clothing). And third, you also have to come up with a primary opponent who can not only beat the incumbent, but also be electable in the general election.
And then you have to do that 145 times over. Talk about drawing an inside straight.
It’s very hard. Name recognition is what always gives the House incumbent an advantage. And, leadership, the RNC, gets to give the incumbent money if it’s needed to take care of that little Maga upstart.
Usually what knocks an incumbent House member out is some kind of organic movement (The Tea Party took out Eric Cantor by surprise and no one in DC has forgotten that, their little baby boy star, OUT!) or a scandal.
Yes, Eric Cantor was the exception that proves the rule, but he was a much higher profile House member than most, too.
Perhaps voting for their Democrat opponent might allow the Dems to pick up a few seats and THAT would embarrass Kevin Mcarthy.
Losing seats does not help careers in the Swamp and it does not look like many of the GOP are on our side.
So how much does having a few more Dems in Congress really make our country worse off than it is right now.
Very few R Senators or Representatives went our of their way to try and help Pr Trump fight against the horrible election steal.
Almost all of the R Congresscritters are useless so it can not hurt too much as to whether we vote D or R until we have a political party we can depend on.
As my grandmother used to say, “Let’s not throw out the baby with the bath water”.
Have to get them to reveal the votes.
When the people of Wyoming vote her out in 2022, to what blue district do you think she will move to receive her next pre-programmed seat in congress while switching to the democrat-half of the globalist-corporatist-Uniparty?
While she’s not in elected office for 2 years, she will probably be appointed to some bacon-graft-larded position by Biden, to show how she is bi-partisan, reaching across the aisle.
She’ll get a position in the fake presidents cabinet as the warmonger czar.
She’ll get Pierre’s seat in 2024.
You mean she’s moving to Utah?
Thanks for the early am laugh!
Looks like we don’t have to debate among ourselves whether or not to kill the GOPe after all as it is committing suicide.
GOPe have always been cowards. Mealy mouthed back stabbers. Flush the whole lot of them. If it means a start of a new party to separate the campaign money, then so be it. Any candidate who IDs themselves as America First will be chocked off from the RNC cash anyways.
Hopefully, Wyoming patriots will take care of it and she will be primaried. They are the people who really matter and have the final say. The 61 true conservatives should identify themsleves, but I think we already know who the 145 backstabbers are.
As a side note, it’s interesting that both CEOs, Bezos and Matze, are gone – one right after the other.
…Friday is coming…….
I do not think they are “gone” the way you think they are.
These kinds of men are never far away from the seat of power and we will see them back.
So 145 RINO cowards secretly shoot-the-bird at 75 million patriots.
They think we won’t find out and remember who they are.
great idea. absolute must. how do we go about it?
I wish I could shove this in people’s brain and make it stick:
RINOs are DEMOCRATS. Right now they are the super majority. We have about 61 Republicans in the House right now. That’s it!
The rest are Ds.
If we don’t vote (or vote a 3rd candidate and lose to a D) and a D win, nothing changes. A Democrat (RINO) lost to another D.
Get it?
It’s like Omar losing to AOC. We gain or lose nothing. NADA. A RINO losing to a D is not a loss for us.
Exactly. The aim in 2022 should be to reduce the GOP to Patriots only, so it appears 65 is the number. In the Senate there’s probably 4-5 Patriots. Let all 20 or so up for re-election lose. It’s true, the Dems have a Super Majority now with the GOP Communists like Cheney, McCarthy and McConnell. Just time to formalize it in 2022.
Birds of a feather…
Just let the Democrats have them .
Let the Democrats have their way with them and please don’t give these Rino Cowards Nothing.
Let Mitch Mc Connell and his Good friends die.
This is a PERFECT example of why many of us (not all of course) believe that the GOP is fatally flawed and beyond rehabilitation We desperately need a new party to replace our current one party UNIPARTY !
Not a new party. But leave the GOP and be “homeless” Free to go with the flow. Vote for a 3rd candidate in the general.
If our 3rd candidate lose to a D pushing a RINO incumbent out, nothing really changes but we tried. A RINO is a D anyway. A RINO losing to a D and not a loss for us. It’s more of the same.
the Patriot Party will get rolling soon. already started.
What more damn proof do you need that the Republican Party is hopelessly corrupt! The conservative base has been whining for decades about RINOs. Yet many decades later RINOs are every bit in charge of the party as they were over 50 years ago. The party has been the Democrat’s eager pet poodles since 1933 and have been swindling conservatives ever since. Stop the battered wife syndrome stuff and wake the hell up!
And when something like the Tea Party comes along they turn out to be RINO’s anyway like Rubio.
Someone needs to let Donald Trump Jr. know that Kevin McCarthy is not a friend of the Trump family; nor is he a friend of the MAGA family.
had that thought too. how do we get in touch with him?
Proving once again they’re cowards, the vote is secret.
“House republican representatives voted
145-61 to keep Liz Cheney in power …”
WERE DOMINION/SMARTMATIC MACHINES USED? / S
Satan is ruling over DC.
DSG – The District of Sodom and Gomorrah
An incumbent RINO like Mitch, Romney, Liz losing to D is not a loss for us.
It’s like Schumer losing to Bloomberg. A D replacing another D.
I send a letter to the Republican National Committee and the Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee asking that my name be removed from all of their databases and mailing lists and that I not be contacted further regarding contributions or support. I further indicated that if they failed to honor my request, I would file legal proceedings to force the end of harassment. I continue to to receive E-mail solicitations from Ronna McDaniel requesting membership renewal and money. The lawsuits seeking redress begin soon. F–k the GOP.
If we get the same results either way I’d just as well the democrat wins. At least then when things go to hell democrats get the blame.
Secret ballot, huh? So we have no way of knowing who voted for or against Cheney. I reckon it’s the RINO way of doing things. It certainly isn’t the Republican way.
They don’t want accountability. They used to able to hide all of this stuff. Too much is out and they are on the spotlight. Now… secret action is the way to go.
If you have a republican as your representative in Congress, assume he or she voted for the witch Cheney. Sorry Tom Tiffany, 7th Congressional District in Wisconsin, I assume you voted for Cheney because why not. I think it would be a laugh riot if more than 61 GOP house members said they voted to remove Witch Cheney for here leadership role. I could easily see these rotten snakes doing something like that.
I think it would be interesting if we could slap together a speculative list of who voted against Witch Cheney. Obviously, Matt Gaetz, who should NOT hand his head but keep swinging for the fences, MTG, and who knows after that.
I like the comment above in the thread that if a rep doesn’t tell us he/she voted against Cheney, it’s best to assume that they voted to keep her in her position and plan for their primary challanger.
I second that!
Make each Rep share their choice on the record who they voted for. Make a list and check it twice.
Typical corruption secret vote.. I bet if you asked..
Each one individually voted to oust her..
See the way plausible deniability …. how well that works.. lie to the constituents..
These Fake Rino’s Republicans will all say that Nov 2022 .. not me I never voted to retain Liz Cheney..
Or we could have a “McConnel” 15 percent favorability rating in a district with 98% MAGA Republicans and get re-elected by 70 percent …
The new Word McConnelled… definition.. to be re-elected to congress with over 70% of the vote having a lower then 25% favorability rating..
MAGA
Let’s be honest, the GOP has been in shell shock since Donald Trump walked down the escalator in 2015…from Cruz at the convention, to Flake and Pierre Delecto, to Graham to McCinnell, to the Bush’s, and now McCarthy….like being stuck in quicksand, every move they have made to extricate themselves has only gotten them deep and deeper with their voting base…what’s the latest? A secret vote to hide what they know is unpopular with their base…coming soon? A Banana Republic impeachment conviction to really nuke their own backyard? I dont know if they are going to go through with it, and frankly I dont care…they’re about to go under for good, either way
Best assessment I have read in a while.
I have been watching Illinois US Rep. Adam Kinzinger try to launch his PAC. His first interviews were to bash MAGA supporters as conspiracy theorists and whack jobs.
Kinzinger is about to be the latest dead canary
Adam turncoat. No one likes him. His family disowned him.
My blood boils when I hear his name. See my post up thread.
The following may be old news, 2 days ago….however, any negative publicity for the boy, is good in my book.
If one wants respect, one must earn it, the old fashioned way.
https://thefederalist.com/2021/02/02/adam-kinzinger-shouldnt-be-proud-his-family-disowned-him-he-should-be-ashamed/
Thanks, I will read the article.
Oh I heard his catch phrase.. IIRC
Make this country great again..
What a looser..
MAGA
I am just outside his district by a mile or two or three.
This boy has got to go. 16th District, do your job.
He grifted his way forward, smooth talking his way, first on one of Chciago’s most conservative talks shows, capitalizing on his military career and the soft motherly side of one of the radio hosts. I remember that interview and heard it in its entirety.
He should be ashamed of himself. From my view of what I have seen, he is a cowardly fraud.
I know several Veterans who have gone to him for help with the ‘system’ and were met with a big fat nothing. Nothing. Not even a return e-mail.
https://kinzinger.house.gov/district/interactivemap.htm
They’ve been an organizational mess since they handed the nomination to John McCain.
The coming dilemma. Trump meets with McCarthy and they make a joint statement about the R’s taking the House in 2022.
Every county and precinct level republican organization should demand the recall of any one who voted for Cheney. Immediately.
Every republican rep needs to be asked in a public forum how they voted.
The vote for Cheney is an outrage.
They want our votes when they stab us in the back?
I am astonished at the disconnect between the Republican party and its voters.
The schism is laid bare for all to see. I’d like to see this ‘Gang of 61’ from the House come out and announce a new Patriot’s Caucus.
Caucus with the GOP on certain issues but uniformly vote in opposition to globalist intentions. No more omnibus. NONE. No more trillion-dollar rescue packages that send 80 percent of the funds to China and South America….
But look for some easy wins— if that means supporting Biden’s ‘America First’ industry initiative, so be it. It’s a siht sandwich right now but there’s got to be some domestic proposals that are favorable to populists across the spectrum.
These 61 could be the foundation of a true party for the people.
We need some highly visible victories for the middle class, not secret ballots. The GOP is an absolute joke right now.
What does the secret vote say about McCarthy?
And watch Liz vote with the demonrats to oust MTG from her committee assignments.
It appears that alot of House Republicans lied to Matt Gaetz when they told him that they we’re voting against Cheney. Gaetz said earlier that they had the votes to remove Cheney.
Lying politicians sums up Sodom on the Potomac. D.C. is completely dark. The Devil owns the place because the rotten swamp denizens have bowed their knee to Satan receiving in exchange, power and money.
He should have demanded an open ballot.
Now they will work to remove Greene and I bet she will be.
And my county GOP has yet to censure Gonzales.
And you can bet that ballot won’t be secret.
MAGA/Patriot party ’cause the GOPe sucks.
That makes it easy. In 2022 re-elect 65 GOP reps and don’t vote for the 145 to make them lose. If MAGA candidates can win a dozen or so swing seats, good luck.. To fix the GOP they need to lose 100 odd seat in House and 20+ in Senate.
So McCarthy gave the RINO’s cover by allowing a secret vote on Liz Cheney. Don’t trust McCarthy. He is not for Trump. Nor is Mitch McConnell or Lindsey Graham as we know too well.They are all Decepticons. I got another letter from Ronna wanting money for RNC membership. Apparently the RNC did not read my response to their last letter. The GOP is dead to me, including ROger Wicker, my RINO senator and my feckless governor Tate Reeves.
The Republican party’s elected representitives no longer act on it’s electors behalf, rather their own…Time for a new party.
How pathetic, McCarthy is backing someone that’s going to be voted out and sent back to WY….well where she’s always lived, DC where she’ll be a lobbyist. Never trusted McCarthy. He’s got to go.
Stop calling it my party, our party.
It’s like the sports team you cheer for. They don’t consult you on trades.
And you don’t send LeBron James your money. That’s China’s job.
All You have to do is watch how over the last few days these people have done nothing but suck up to the Dems and beg for them not to take all of their little cookies. McConnell has been crying in his beer all day long and how pathetic that they cant even throw out one of the worst people and yet they have allowed the dems to harm a real lady who stands for the constitution and stands tall among these pathetic thumb suckers.
Sad, that at this time none of us have any real contact with the President because he really does need to start his own party, I did hear today that he has finally finished setting up his office, but We need to make up our minds right now that no matter what The Republs are dead to us,
I got an email today from the RNC and just told her that i had no intention now of supporting the Repubs and that I just wanted them to leave me off their donor list and that meant Win Red too
I just feel betrayed by the Repubs and when you see that they are so unwilling to do anything to stop Joe Biden from distroying all the hard work that President Trump put in for 4 years You have to know that they were all in on the steal and now they don’t like what the Dems are doing to them after being told that if they threw President Trump out of office they would allow them to stay in power with the dems so much for making bad deals with the Dems The Repubs did again this time what they did in 2012 when they thought they could make a deal with Obama to work with him for another 4 years and again he said Get tp the back of the bus Elections have consequences Tough crap now for the Repubs they betrayed even themselves this time They threw away everything for nothing
may god bless your soul because I feel sorry for those who refused to stand up for the President and help him
GOP SENATORS UP FOR RE-ELECTION IN 2022
It’s right around the corner and they’re calling for your money already. In fact, any money you sent to the GOP on behalf of POTUS’ fight against the steal, was also stolen, by the RNC.
Portman of Ohio, Burr of North Carolina, and Toomey of PA are not running for re-election. Although he hasn’t said it, I wonder if Grassley will also decline to run at his advanced age.
Blunt, Roy MO
Boozeman, John AR
Crapo, Mike ID
Grassley, Ch. IA
Hoeven, John SD
Johnson, Ron WI
Kennedy, John LA
Lankford, James OK
Lee, Mike UT
Moran, Jerry KS
Murkowski, Lisa AK
Paul, Rand KY
Rubio, Marco FL
Scott, Tim SC
Shelby, Richard AL
Thune, John SD
Young, Todd IN
You forgot Crapo of Idaho.
Oops I look twice and didn’t see it but you listed him. He’s a dirt bag. Along with Senator Risch. Totally sold out to McConnell
Perfect name for him, Crapo
Sorry if I missed it, is there anyway we can access a list of the 145 covert Democrats who voted to keep this unpleasant person?
Also, my 2 cents — sure, it’s disappointing. But the very idea that a member of the Uniparty’s version of the AFC/NFC split could be removed for these reasons was unthinkable before 2016. That there are 45 representatives who are American at heart and know it is amazing progress.
spoogels- THANK YOU.
Cheney votes to impeach MAGA Trump with support from McCarthy.
McCarthy woos Trump to increase House seats in ’22. Trump agrees to support GOP MAGA candidates.
GOP wants to get rid of MAGA.
GOP needs MAGA Leader to win House MAGA seats for Anti-MAGA Cheney to “lead.”
Got it!
Time to go to work cleaning house (the GOPe house). Interesting it was a secret vote. Many, too many, of our elected Republican officials are cowards.
They don’t belong to me anymore. I quit the party right after they went along with the steal.
On Matt Gaetz ..
Matt time to out all the Rino’s that lied to you..
obviously this is Kevin’s work to humiliate Matt.
And MAGA
A lot of people are assuming that the vote to keep her is a vote for the GOP swamp. What if for many, it is a vote to help keep the MAGA base energized, stirred up, and engaged? The practical effects of removing her from the role are fairly small, Republicans can’t stop anything in the House on their own whether she’s in or out. The Democrats, RINOS, and media are going to use the issue against us either way, so let her stay and move on. GOP leadership think that they are now on more solid ground with Trump voters than they really are, which will make it that much more glorious when they get their butts handed to them in less than 2 years. Again, the difference with or without her in the role at this point is a practical tie. Now use their overconfidence to their extreme disadvantage.
Nice try to stay positive but your explanation sounds much too much like “oh, it must be 4D chess.”
Donald Trump himself was not capable of such a game; surely you know McCarthy only plays checkers.
Regardless, whether their intent or not, the outcome is the same. RINOs are significantly overconfident about their position, believing that the MAGA coalition is all about Trump. Seeing the responses here and across multiple other places tonight tells me that all they have done is fire up the MAGA base. The RINO GOP can’t take another 2 years of this without imploding and that’s what we need.
That part does make sense.
Don’t think so.
I guarantee that MN congressman Tom Emmer voted to keep Cheney in power. He’s an asshole.
The MAGA Patriots must start their own party. Then, as it grows, President Trump will probably join. If the Rep party hasn’t been reformed by now, it’s not ever going to be!
No. Take over the party or it will just be a losing battle.
We already lost the battle inside the party. What difference does it make since we are screwed over by both thee Dems and republican?
Much better to screw them over back and burn it down.
No. We lost “a” battle, not “the” battle. Dividing the party instead of taking it over ensures the “L”eft can steam-roll their agenda(s) until those on the “R”ight can again make their voices heard as one party. You are not going to muster enough votes for any conservative agenda by dividing the party or burning it down.
“Liz Cheney refused to apologize for voting to impeach former President Donald Trump during the closed-door meeting with her GOP conference Wednesday evening, according to a source in the room.”
If that is true then we have only 61 MAGA Republicans in the House..
MAGA
What I see here is Republican Congresspersons with a dilemma: if I support Cheney I’ll be primaried, and lose; but if I vote against her, the millions in funding that McCarthy delivers from the CoC, Koch Bros, etc., will be cut off, and I’ll never find work on K St when I decide to retire and cash in. So the magic solution is, we have a secret vote. McCarthy does what political leaders do.
So McCarthy needs to be primaried, and those who take CoC money need to be heckled about what they owe in exchange.
Atkisson
POLL: People are “fired up” to vote in upcoming Midterms
https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/02/poll-people-are-fired-up-to-vote-in-upcoming-midterms/
Real? Fake? Unbelievable?
Sadly, believable.
The GOP House takes a secret ballot vote, thinking that that will keep us from going after members who voted for her?
They have NO ability to reason: they are facing voters they are supposed to be courting, voters they desperately need, voters who are pissed off they didn’t give a damn that our votes weren’t counted properly in a Presidential election….so what do they do?
They try to keep the peace by HIDING how our representatives voted.
Hey, guys, it’s elections for public office that are secret ballot vote, not the votes of representatives in a “representative republic.”
EGADS. They have a collective IQ on the left side of the Bell Curve.
spoogels,if your are bored with the the thread ,go start one of your own. There is the Resistance thread where you can put this.
Scott, have patience. It all ties in together with these corupti-cons.
My thoughts about the Cheney lady…I hope she has had genetic testing to make sure she does not get “listed”–“transplant listed”. Cardiac issues tend to run in families. She does not look particularly healthy.
Chenney is likely to be primaried while Greene isn’t. Let’s keep that in mind. MAGAism isn’t going anywhere. And in the end it doesn’t depend on Trump. If it depended on Trump it would not have coalesced so fasted.
House Bill H.R 127 Introduced quietly by Shelia Jackson Lee!
“Gun Control” of all gun owners.
You need to apply with the federal government for a license, undergo a psychological test and take a 24 hour class!
If passed, to keep your guns, you will need 2 references, $800 for insurance a year and penalties if you break some of the rules! 150k/25 years in prison!
A prelude to making good people into criminals. Confiscation to disarmament of Americans! Wake up people!
If I end up buying a gun — at 72 years of age, and a lifetime scientist — it will likely be, by then current definitions, an illegal one.
You best get on it. You are going to need it very soon.
Buy it now and ignore the coming law. It is unenforceable once you have a gun. Gun sales will wind up going underground and law enforcement will ignore the illegal guns. Hunters will ignore the law and cops won’t enforce it. In the meantime the NRA can sue.
The Supreme court will save us, it is a clear violation of 2A……oh never mind, I thought it was still a free country. If they want the guns give them to them ammo first, nobody said it had to be moving slow either.
“Wake up people!”
Do you realize that we are all awake? Only the CIA which control election outcomes are not…
Please be respectful and don’t hijack threads with off topic postings.
One might expect that the psychological test and rules will be biased to to a certain political viewpoint.
Relax, this is the 3rd time in 10 years SJL has introduced her HR-127 Bill for which she has no co-sponsors.
Do these rules apply to the gang bang criminals or just those of us who want to defend ourselves from the leftist thugs?
So, are 145 House members against MAGA? Well, at least we know 145 of them are looking for money from her puppet masters.
It would seem so. And McCarthy thinks this is a draw or a win, according to Pavlich’s piece.
Nope.
Those 145
In a word….FUBAR…..but is anyone surprised?
It’s a giant Clusterfoul!!
President Trump only had a few dozen supporters in the House, and maybe two or three in the Senate–at best. So the 61 number is about right.
The awful fact of the matter is, MOST DC Republicans are RINOs. That is why talk of reforming the party seems ridiculous to me. As difficult as it seems. starting a new party is really the only way to go. Reforming the Republican party would take years–even decades–and success would by means be guaranteed.
I have been one of the most staunch advocates of trying to reform the GOP rather than going through the hell of starting a third party.
I’m beginning to think we don’t have a choice.
“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.”—Abraham Lincoln
Looking like the GOP is going to insist we start a new party. I am ready now! …after all, what the heck do we have to lose??
The happiest politicians in Washington DC would be Democrats if we left the GOP, for another party.
We don’t have a party. How do you deal with what these guys are doing? If we leave they won’t have a party either. If we stay we get screwed over by both parties, including the one we vote for
All of those disillusioned Dems, Libertarians, and Independents FLOCKING to the new party.
No, in the long run the Dems would not be happy.
If 145 are primaried, and 1/3 are defeated, MAGA wins the majority. If the House is also recaptured, can you say “Speaker of the House, Donald J. Trump?”
Many people disagree with you about starting a 3rd party because we would lose to the D RATS. My answer to them is that we are always losing to the D RATS even when we had all the power. It is the UNI Party we are losing to all the time. And the shove it in our faces by having a secret vote.
The Republican Party is ours. We should start taking it back by primarily Lisa Murkowski with Sarah Palen. Only donate to specific people, not the RNC.
Have a link to who the 145 are? i can’t find a link to how the Texas delegation voted.
It was a secret ballot vote. Best chance is to poll for the 61 who voted to remover her, but I bet that you would wind up with every last piece of crap Republican telling you they voted for removal.
And worse, the 61 who voted for Cheney’s removal will cover for the other 145 who didn’t. The secret vote was the GOP traitors closing ranks to protect its establishment ranks.
Screw ’em all.