Moments ago Vice-President Mike Pence made the following announcement via Twitter:
“It is my considered judgement that my oath to support and defend the constitution constrains me from claiming unilateral authority to determine which electoral votes should be counted and which should not.”
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For those who have followed Lin Wood..
This is what Lin Wood has been referencing in his tweets:
https://www.neonrevolt.com/2021/01/06/at-the-highest-levels-part-1-of-3/
“I always knew this would be an option for Pence. Should he really desire to betray Trump, all he had to do was keep his cards close to his chest, pretend to be an ally, and then flip at the last possible second in order to run out the clock and prevent Trump from being able to respond at all.”
Norma Jean:
Watching, observing, and reading—I have come to trust Sidney Powell and Lin Wood. That was why when I first read of what Lin Wood said about pence, I did not throw it as trash. But I pondered on what he said.
But it seems EVERYTHING he was posting lately was and is actually right.
I read all 3 parts of this early this morning. I cannot reccomend enough that you take the time to read it yourself
“With a whimper” comes to mind
VP Pence states in his letter the Electoral Act outlines a clear way to address objections..
Reading this Act – you see 1 reason to reject as – ‘or if the electoral college votes were not “regularly given” ‘
Key Point: ‘not lawfully certified’ – Game on.
page 11.
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL32717.pdf
summarize objectively please
if these were forced through certification improperly (no following their rules) this is it illegal certification – and cannot be accepted.
That is a loose interpretation. I’m just bringing this up for debate – maybe Wethal has some thoughts.
But since nobody is following and laws, rules or the constitution, it doesn’t really matter what it says.
Obvious and Key points right there! This has not been “a Nation of Laws” for a long, long time.
I’m waiting until the count reaches a state whose legislature has requested a delay.
If he does not set that state aside, he’s done.
Will not pile on until then.
Watch for Georgia.
Ok, then, play the game. No certified results, then Nancy Pelosi is sworn in as the next president.
A lot of “hopium addicts” are going to be suffering from withdrawals of a lifetime.
Here and elsewhere.
Et Tu Pence?
As Churchill said to Chamberlain: Mr. Pence—“you had a choice of dishonor or war. You chose dishonor, You will have war.”
May the hand of God fall upon this demonic man Schumer. He stands there fully knowing the FRAUD and STEALING they committed, yet not only does he berate and reprimand, he acts self-righteous to boot.
So, Lin Wood tweeted Pence was a traitor; he should resign.
Looks like he was right. Some of you might rethink how you might have misjudged him – at least on this count.
Although I knew Lin Wood wouldn’t speak such words if he didn’t have some sort of evidence, I never thought Pence would betray his country. How wrong was I.
It always seems to be the one who at that moment seems the craziest.
Remember when everyone was saying Bannon was a nut job?
I thought Pence would do the right thing and reject the elector slates of cheating states.
I was wrong.
It is especially despicable that he waited until the last minute to announce.
Yes it is. He is a real jerk.
In truth, McConnell and Pence are baiting Trump. They are in your face daring him to challenge their authority.
So is the Governor of Georgia with his SoS. He is daring POTUS to stop the State’s Outrageous Cheating in elections. It is a Republican rebellion this time. The Chinese have bought GA, a Republican State and Kemp and his SoS are doing China’s bidding having been warned of the consequences. (Harrison Deal and the young policeman).
Exactly. I have believed all along that that young man died as a warning that Kemp, Duncan, Ratty Had better do what they were told or they could get to them too. I am not exempting Loeffler or Purdue from this morning. If I remember correctly, they were supposed to campaign in Savannah that day. Where that boy’s car blew up is the road to the Savannah airport. Let me say this too, there was A Georgia accident inspector who “committed suicide“ about 10 days after that accident. He lived in that area and probably worked there too. I have no proof, but it stinks to high heaven’s.
He will challenge them. Rudy has solid evidence of foreign election fraud. President Trump can therefore invoke the Insurrection Act. Mark my words: Our legitimate President considers it his utmost responsibility to uphold and defend our Constitutional Republic against enemies both foreign AND DOMESTIC.
#USA??USA??USA??
He really has no choice now. It is an out and out rebellion at least in GA. The steal of the election yesterday and the Pence betrayal will leave POTUS no choice.
If he invokes the Insurrection Act, how does that give him a second term?
Do you seriously think the military is going to follow Trump’s orders? To round up Joe Biden, Kamal Harris, and Nancy Pelosi?
They will lock Trump up before that. For that matter, the House could impeach Trump in 4 hours and the Senate could try and convict in 2 hours their poll numbers would skyrocket if Trump tried that. And that would trump the Insurrection Act.
Fantasy land.
It’s a huge risk to do that. Not to mention another round of impeachment. It’s a hard decision to weigh.
Like I’ve been saying since 2016 – Mike Pence is not to be trusted.
This is not a surprise to me at all. I hope it finally wakes up people.
I especially hope it wakes up the “we don’t do that crowd”, the same ones Trump called out today and told it is time to fight. We lose because we bring thumb wrestling to a nuclear war.
It doesn’t sound like our President was blindsided by Mike Pence at all. He knows who ALL the traitors are. I’ve no doubt that, while it may have been easier for his VP to handle this matter appropriately, our President was always prepared for the worst. And he *definitely* has more arrows in his quiver. And very effective ones, at that.
POTUS said when he was addressing the crowd today, that he was hearing some bad stories about Pence – probably why he was late, I suspect.
Sorry, Judith, I’d like to believe you, but I think the arrows are gone from the quiver. It’s freaking January 6. If Donald Trump had anything else “up his sleeve” he’d have presented it by now.
Pence and McConnell must beware.
When you strike the king you must kill him.
Don’t think that’s off the table. I believe they plan to bankrupt and jail the Trump family.
Or worse. I pray Trump’s secret service detail is loyal to him.
I believe he has his own security.
One unmentioned fact is this. President Trump is President for another couple weeks. I cannot believe he is just going to take this. Final Act not yet here.
If Biden gets enough easy votes to be declared the winner, it is very probable that Trump will be impeached and bum rushed out of there as soon as the end of this week. They want him gone.
Won’t clear 2/3 of the Senate.
Not unexpected; the classic nice-guy Republican, aka eunuch.
It is disappointing that he appears to have left PDJT high and dry, rather than to have coordinated on a response.
And all these Republicans from state legislators to Congress keep looking for someone else to save their bacon; something a power hungry Democrat would never do.
It’s worse than that. He hides behind his religion and God and yet works for the devil and the corrupt power players.
Agree. You have worded it very accurately. That is the worst cut of all to PDJT. Pray that God strengthens the President’s faith. Pence and others have acted worse than the heathen.
Agree!!!
MARCUS TULLIUS CICERO:
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.
Such a powerful and TRUE quotation from long ago, and still true today. Sickening, but true.
VP Pence was always a limp.. whatever. Real MAGA women can spot those losers a mile away. No surprise there..
He calls his wife “mother.”
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has had the power to do, and that have been raised publicly and presumably privately, over the last (let’s just say) six months and that he has not done that we are left with two possibilities. >
1. Something else is going to happen that does not fit any of the standard narratives or any precedent;
or,
2. Trump is ineffectual, timid or as stupid as his enemies say, or a combination of all of these.
Choose one. >
I know you’ve heard this from me many times before. But it’s one or the other.
I’ll have been wrong about a *great deal* if either (1) or (2) is the right answer. But far more if it’s (2). And if it is, shame on all of us.
I Choose #1. Something else is going to happen that does not fit any of the standard narratives or any precedent.
People here and elsewhere (Bongino, DiGenova, etc.) have been saying this kind of thing (Big Ugly, Kraken, etc.) for years. Doesn’t happen, and won’t happen. Charlie Brown, meet Lucy.
So much delusional theater.
Well said
Pence. What can you say about a man who; it can be argued, set up Flynn to be prosecuted for a crime he did not commit. A man who foisted the COVID scam response on the American public. The man who has been virtually silent on election fraud since it was publicly and loudly announced by pelosi and clinton that President Trump will be removed from office when biden wins the election – in July! POTUS was left alone to warn of the plan to steal the election.
Pence is a traitor and a snake.
Go search Pence/Ryan 2016 and you’ll find many things the man of “God” was doing in the darkness with the RNC and Ryan to continue the transformation
Yup
I never wanted to believe what should have been obvious- Pence is and was a coward. My guess is that President Trump chose him as a running mate because he was pretty much part of the establishment and didn’t seem like a trouble maker.
Never in our wildest dreams did we foresee a situation where the future of our very Republic would rest on the shoulders of a man who clearly never had the strength to withstand the pressures that would be put upon him.
In addition to being a coward and a treasonous traitor of the worse sort, Pence is a nothing but a weak hypocrite who pretends to be a good, God fearing Christian while doing the Devil’s work.
And it turns out that “crazy” Lin Wood was right after all as many of us had suspected and feared. One thing you have to admit is that unlike the traitor Mike Pence, Lin Wood has always been outspokenly loyal to our President Trump.
Our options are now very few but as the President said today, he will never concede, he will never give up. And he has millions of us with him.
As I posted earlier, he just put himself out of a job and also crushed his chances of running for POTUS ever again. Why would he do that voluntarily? What was the coercion put upon him? Maybe he’s happy being Mitch Daniels and going back to Indiana and running a college or something. Highly disappointing.
When has Pence run for President? What makes you think he wants to be President?
I always thought VP Pence was wincing as PDJT spoke at the COVID updates each day. I thought then that President Trump should not be so trusting of his VP.
He makes a mockery of God.
Pence caved in Indiana on something with—- I think it was protecting businesses from homosexual extremism. He only never seemed to cave on pro-life issues, but now with this he has even betrayed the unborn.
GOD will never be Mocked, Never!
Isn’t it interesting that 2020 ÷ 666 = 3.0330
“we hear objections raised by Senators and Representatives”
it isn’t over yet – and I want to give Pence credit for the above part of this – he may actually be courageous after all and I am praying, still!
We will know today – That is for sure . I’m tired of trying to find honor in people. They should glow it like POTUS where we don’t have to look!
Theres a real good chance that due to one of the suits set to go before scotus (sorry drawing a blank as to which one it is) that the decision will get delayed 10 days. Ive heard this suggested by a few people, based on how its been going and how badly i want to get the answers i fully expect it to get delayed.
Great Post! Thanks.
When someone tells you who they are you should believe them.
Exactly,
Are they this ignorant on what the Constitution says, or just acting that way?
They read the Constitution like the Bible – only the parts and interpretation they like.
Another stab in the back.
Et tu Pence?
And where is DNI’s John Ratcliffe?
I’ve been unimpressed w him, no Ric Grenell.
Not having his report on foreign interference was a huge blow.
The Swamp & Obama, Zuckerberg, China & CoC will make sure Trump 2024 never happens.
Dominion will stay in place. McConnell will stay in place. Decepticons will stay in place.
SO I guess we can assume that Pence has no intentions of running for POTUS. Cuz no one will support him now? I wonder if after today proceeding he will walk in and resign…
Isn’t he on his plane out of town yet?
Well – I think it’s safe to say that he has no intention of running for POTUS on a Republican ticket. To say anything more assumes things for which we as yet have no evidence.
Trump should fire him! Today!
Who can fire the VP?
In a Communist country, anybody can run for President and “win.” Because they are installed, they don’t have to sweat real elections anymore.
If McConnell is not respecting the Electoral College, then why is he even the Senate Majority Leader?
Time for him to go, dear God – please – I pray that he will step down, exhausted apparently –
now if McCaonnell is inveighing against the Electoral College then he needs to go –
this is not over yet
These people are not exactly “exhausted” or even stupid. These CONgress critters are actually CO-CONSPIRATORS in an ongoing, TREASONOUS COUP. Write this down one hundred times, until it rolls effortlessly off the tongue. Our country is at war with enemies both foreign AND DOMESTIC, and the ballot box happens to be the least of their concerns at the moment.
Gutless.
Surprise surprise
“Thanks for nothing, Mike.”
Future Aborted Fetuses of America
Well I stand corrected. I was in the camp that believed he would do all he could to prevent the party of abortion gaining total control. I was wrong. Like so many ‘Christians’ he has failed to walk his talk.
It may be timely for people to study the books of Kings and Chronicles. So many times the people and the leaders had the opportunity to do the right thing, but they didn’t, and despite many years of mercies, eventually came the fall.
Good examples from the Bible, and there are many others. Time and again mankind has failed their progeny in the hallelujah moment.
The country has had three shakings one on 9/11, then the financial crisis of 2008 and now a plague! If we don’t end abortion and repent as a nation and return to God as in 2 Chronicles 7:14 “if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land” we will experience an even greater shaking! Pence has just made any effort to end abortion impossible. President Trump and First Lady Melanie have been the most pro life couple ever in the White House! Godspeed President Trump! Dear Lord we need a miracle!
I thinks it’s time that we Americans start thinking of what “We” can do to fix this rather then depending on others who have nothing to gain.
The rally in DC was announced well in advance and while there was a turn out it wasn’t nearly good enough to what it should have been. I find it interesting that a group of people who claim to be self reliant seem so lost with out someone to fight for them.
Second. Many conservatives either forgot or choose to ignore what was exposed during Trumps candidacy for the Presidency. Too many yucked it up and where busy mocking liberals instead of cleaning house. The voters unwillingness to accept the reality that they no longer had representation in WA has led to all of our demise.
Many will not agree with me but I truly believe the responsibility falls on us voters. It is time for brutal self reflection. We all need to meditate on what actions must be taken next and truly decide just how much we are willing to sacrifice to preserve our republic. The time has come where a slogan is longer is a slogan but an actual mind set. Would we rather live free or die?
Unfortunately, many of us who would have loved to be there and support Our President have jobs, responsibilities and families that we simply could not leave today
I have prayed for and financially supported those who WERE able to attend and will continue to do so
It starts today in earnest at my local level
Could not agree more.
So many failed opportunities by Trump, by the Republican party, and us.
Perhaps the main thing we can do is to refuse to buy Chinese goods, hire Chinese workers, accept Chinese students, or have anything to do with China. This does not require any direction from above or leadership from a central committee. Just do it.
“one may smile and smile, and be a villain.”
-Shakespeare
That describes, warm water Pence, with his phony smile and his phony look at Trump as if he admires him, were all so sadly obvious…
So much for Ezra Cohen, Special Ops, and too-late changes at DOD.
Expect:
Amnesty for 40 Million.
China big moves.
EU continued trade advantages. Etc.
What happened to POTUS being the master of leverage?
So his White House staff effectively cut off Sidney Powell. Mark Meadows & another attorney, Cippollini?
Dust the flan
I disagree. This just makes the next sequence easier The President should take the next step today after Congress decides. EO# 13848,Insurgency law, limited martial law. He has to immediately get to the Dominion machines and the ballots from the Georgia runoff. If he has the receipts, he needs to bring in the Georgia Governor, Secretary of State, and election commissioner for a heavy-duty interrogation. Now.
This fraud is intolerable. It must be redressed. We have our lion. Do it.
“… i will do my duty to dee to it that…. we count the votes of the electoral college for P and VP in a manner consistent with our Constitution, laws and history.”
I do not read this as a betrayal by Pence at this point
What are our laws? The direct laws of the COTUS is that the state LEGISLATURES make the laws re: elections for their state. PDJT made the case that that… law in the COTUS was violated by the 6 disputed states.
So, IMO, the jury is still out on what is going to happen.
It seems absurd– and a fundamental breakdown of the COTUS– if an overtly fraudulent election and an illegitimate POTUS ev3n could be legitimized.
We shall see.
Yay! More waiting, more hoping, more “trusting the plan.” Will it ever end?
Totally agree with you! From reading the comments so far, I better understand how the town’s folk could get riled up at the saloon and hang someone without a trial. I’ll wait to hear what President Trump and Constitutional scholars say.
Why the surprise? He was allies and friends with Paul Ryan. He always came across, his wife too, as bigtime phonies.
You know the people who mouth all the right things at church and then are the most wretched people in the parking lot.
Lula,
Like praying on your knees on Sunday and preying on your neighbours the rest of the week. Is that it?
There is a long list of consequential actions that President Trump could have taken, but failed to take, in this most critical moment to save our Republic. Talk is cheap. When the American people look back on these fateful days and calmly assess the Presidents lack of real and consequential action (besides Tweeting and rallying) in this critical moment, his standing with the People and in our Nation’s history will diminish.
I think it’s funny you attacking the only person in the ring willing to fight. What have you done? But I digress it’s much easier to blame others then accept responsibility for your role in the country’s current predicament.
Where is the implementation of the Executive Order on foreign election interference and the DNI report starting this process, after the President’s most trusted advisors have all affirmed foreign interference in the election? Where is the appointment of a Special Counsel to investigate the electoral fraud? Where is the Presidential order to the DOJ and FBI to investigate urgently the electoral fraud? Where are the firings of government bureaucrats unlawfully blocking the President’s orders in the various Executive Department branches supposedly under his command and control? This list goes on. The President is not impotent. The President has vast and lawfully-placed powers to get to the bottom of this disaster quickly and bring justice, but where is the real “fight”?
Why didn’t he fire Sessions as soon as he recused himself from the Mueller probe?
Why didn’t he fire Comey sooner, and Wray as soon as he started defending the FBI as an institution for the indefensible?
Why didn’t he fire Fauci the minute he said that we can’t open the economy until COVID is 100% gone (last spring)?
Why didn’t he fire the a**hat Secretary of Defense who said that he would not bring troops home from Afghanistan?
Why didn’t he fire Bolton as soon as he leaked that negotiations with the Taliban were commencing?
Ridiculous. He was continually constrained by the deep state and the media. Even when he asked for documents to be declassified, the people responsible to release them blocked him.
Go get your Soros money. But it is probably the last you will get.
sending you 1,000 down votes
Agreed, although I think this criticism does not apply only to this “critical moment” but much of his presidency. And sadly your opinion, or any critical of the president(including mine), will surely be met by a one sided response here. The Maga crowd has created an echo chamber of its own kind and I personally think it’s one reason Conservatives lost the moderate vote.
Having said that, even though I have parted ways with DT and don’t see eye to eye with Sundance on many issues, I am glad to see that the treehouse has successfully migrated to a new platform and carrying on. Regardless of stance, the many ways that the conservative voice has been suppressed and demonized are disgusting. Here’s hoping the new year will bring better times.
I can’t wait to see all the money he gets after leaving office:
multi-million dollar book contracts
no-show executive job in the tech industry
corporate boards of media companies and defense contractors
a promise that he gets the nod for the next open senate seat in Indiana
maybe even his own charitable foundation
The possibilities and his bank account is limitless
That’ll be hard to do from Gitmo.
Just remember ….
He was assigned to be Presidents running mate by the establishment..
Mitch..
MAGA
I read the letter, it is not lost yet. I despise Pence, have always found him dirty, but he left himself and out to do the right thing. Hopefully he does.
But Pence could be open about what he will support but he is deliberately keeping that close to his vest and Trump in the dark. Not a good sign.
A palace coup against freedom and liberty has just occurred. PDJT has no further recourse. Appealing to the “masses” and to our political captors has failed. The events that have been set in motion leads to dark times ahead. The storming of the “Bastile” fruitless. The populace of this once great country is too complacent.
Today is the day I officially left the Republican Party, although I actually made up my mind that day in November when the caller on The Rush Limbaugh Show pointed out, through tears, that no Republican office holder was out there supporting the President.
I have carried a GOP card in my pocket since 1988, the year I turned 18.
I don’t know what the future has in store, but “for here ever after, I’m after whatever the other life brings” (I think I stole that line from Kenny Rogers’ Lucille).
I’m done with the Uniparty and their system of government. I’m tired of watching congress and foreign countries get rich off of my sweat and tears when half of the time I struggle to pay the mortgage. Message to the Paul Ryans and Mitch McConnells of the world…Go F yourself. I’m done.
Come to think of it, I didn’t leave the Republican Party, they left me. Good riddance!
Post Script: Sundance congrats on the new CTH 2.0 it is great!
Hell, not only am I leaving the Republican party, I’m done voting forever. What is the point. It’s all an elaborate show to give stupid people the impression that they are picking their leaders.
I’m hunkering down, cutting out any future large purchases and preparing for the worst over the next few years. I may vote in local elections as long as dominion machines aren’t being used, but that’s it.
Looks like they are storming the capitol and getting tear gassed by cops.
Link to videos: https://dlive.tv/PortlandAndy
I see two possible scenarios with Pence:
1. Pence will do nothing and let the game play out. At which time, his “hands” will be clean if he is voted in as the VP.
Bye, Kammie. Kept your day job, did ya?
Making Pence VP would be an acceptable palliative/sop to the conservatives.
A few months or less down the road, JB will be retired one way or another, and MP will be top dog and pet poodle of whoever is really running the show.
2. Pence will do nothing. Pack his bags, slither away and take whatever rewards big pharma via the CDC dole out to him…and of course,
Write a book every time he is supposed to receive another laundered pay off.
Please, Lord, don’t let him move to GA.
One has to wonder where Pence will spend his 30 pieces of silver ?
I am really working hard
to let things play out in this process before commenting. But…….
With this letter it sure looks like VP Pence cut the baby in half. The only wiggle room is 50/50, 60/40, or 70/30, and who gets which side.
Not buying the Q thing about him and Rosenstein. I would need to see a whole lot more on that one. RR, I can believe. Just not ready to buy in to the Pence part, yet.
Georgia will tell the tale.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1346900434540240897?s=20
Does this answer everybody’s questions now?
Trump signaled this with his “not hearing good stories” comment today.
And this tweet is all he has left in his quiver.
Ah, Pence, you could have been a hero. Instead you are just a pathetic loser. Enjoy how history treats you. You’ll never hold office again. Anywhere.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1346900434540240897?s=20
How can a man take that Oath of Office and do what Pence has done? The evidence of fraud against the Constitutional Law of this republic is plain. The Oath requires officers of the republic to defend the Constitution. Pence has betrayed his Oath and his countrymen. There is no rest for the wicked.
This reads like a false flag to demonize Trump supporters. Agent provocateurs. I don’t believe this for a second.
Pence’s political career is over. He will retire on his VP, Congressional and Governor’s pension. Will CNN offer him a contract?
He’ll get the usual political payoff- $60 million for a “book deal”
Game over folks. No Kraken, no Moab, no save by SCOTUS, no video of corrupt CJ Roberts, no DOJ, no save by VPOTUS.
Biden was right about a dark winter.
The only way out of this mess is at the local and state levels. Control the counties and the state legislatures. This will take time, perhaps decades.
All elections going forward at every level are now fixed. Dem loses? No worries keep counting mail-ins until they win. No matter how obvious the fraud is (Hey look, I found 500,000 votes for Biden and 0 for Trump!) there is no mechanism for challenge.
As soon as Sidney, or whomever, started that nonsensical babble about a “Kraken” I resigned myself to what’s going to happen today. As I have said before, I have come to view her in particular as something of a headline grabbing charlatan.
The electoral fraud needed to be stopped before it happened. Once it happened, the system would ensure its preservation and Biden’s ascension. Much as Sundance suspected and then confirmed during his summer trip to DC, relying on the system itself to correct systemic flaws is folly. The system is set up to reject all attempts at correction. The Republican establishment is part of that system; they will not tear it down nor be agents of its change. State Republican legislatures and governors are unreliable allies at best; for every FL there is a GA.
As for Pence, I believe his interpretation of his role in this process is correct, and he does not deserve the blast from Trump that resulted from his statement. I will reserve judgment on where he will wind up when the history is written.
Where America goes from here… sadly, right back into the hands of Wall Street, the globalists, the multinationals, and now the “woke” left. Trump’s presidency will be erased as swiftly and thoroughly as possible by the swamp, aided & abetted by the GOPe who will incessantly gaslight Trump supporters at every opportunity during their next two years in the minority, even as they browbeat battered conservatives with appeals for funding and votes.
It is to weep.
Not when the Dems pass an election reform bill making mail in ballots permanent or mandatory. It’s worked so well for them in WA, OR and during the CV crisis. This isn’t going away. It’s going to expand.
What’s going on in the house….Dems scurrying like rats out of the chambers….seems the Capital has been breached.
Even were that to happen, there are tunnels to the different office buildings etc. This will of course give an excuse for turning the entire complex and fed district into even more of a bunker.
Pence has a constitutional duty under the guarantee of a republican form of government (a government where the people choose their leaders) to vitiate and expunge any emergence of an unrepublican form of government (a phony democracy that usurps choice from the people).
That means he has a constitutional duty NOT to count the electors from an unrepublican state. In effect our Constitution in the guarantee clause declares WAR on any unrepublican form of state government that emerges.
It would be nonsensical to let states that we are at war with choose our president for us. That would be like letting China choose Biden as our president, which could well be how the surge in election fraud came about.
I posted about this yesterday at Flopping Aces, with a link to Sundance’s excellent post on the guarantee clause a couple of days ago:
Prof. Jacobsen says Pence cannot nullify electors from the tainted states, but he fails to account Pence’s inherent power to enforce the republican guarantee | Flopping Aces
Our political captors have been thumbing their noses at our Constitution and Bill of Rights for decades. We have just been to either too blind see it or refuse to believe it was possible. Welcome to the NWO.
I had an idea Pence would turn traitor. All those firey, sermon like speeches, just platitudes. The people will not stand for the usurper Biden and his cheating cohorts. Military option is the only one in my humble opinion.
I condemn those who have stormed the Capital and hope they spend several days in jail. They set our movement back to the point it might not be able to be put back together.
We have to fight using our brains, not our brawn. Every one of them must be blacklisted from our movement. They fell right into the globalists and uniparty’s trap.
I understand your position, but I think you’re wrong.
When our votes are nullified, what choice is left?
How good a choice do you think storming the Capital was?
I can understand the disappointment and the desire to fight back, but that is not an excuse to do something stupid and damaging to our cause.
Trump fought using his brains. How did that work out? If Pence does not delay or send to the house then there is nothing left but brawn. I doubt you can give me even one workable example of how we might win using our brains.
I don’t trust the headlines coming out of this one bit. Where was the media when Antifa and BLM were rampaging? I think they want to set a narrative that justifies them coming after our guns.
Wake up to the real world. We’re about to lose our freedom. Don’t trust the police. Their checks are signed by the politicians who appointed them to begin with. Lockdowns are coming. This is real. There’s no more fair elections. The Republicans arguing now know it’s a lost cause. They want to fail for they profit greatly from what they have created. God bless America and President Trump.
Freedom and Liberty have been taken from us without even a shot being fired.
You have the same liberty and freedom you had last week or last month or last year.
We lost a major battle, but we haven’t lost the war unless we give up.
You don’t like it, but he is right. The precedent of an incumbent refusing to certify the EC vote for the other party would not be a good one. The time for the Kraken was before the EC. Mike Pence is not the Kraken.
I saw someone on the web yesterday who was suggesting that the Jefferson precedent was a possibility for Pence. As I recall there were two sets of votes in 1800, and VP Jefferson sent the lot of it all to the Congress to sort out. Jefferson was one of the candidates, btw, and he became President. Clever were those founding fathers….