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Its not fault of Toobin. Russians pulled his pants and masturbated for him. He was busy on zoon call so he was never able to figure out. Adam schiff was watching so he can confirm it’s Russian job. CT senator also watched intel committee which is approved by 50 senior officers that Russian was mastbating to Toobin.
Even better. Don’t the Chinese own Zoom? LOL
the new normal???????
For those of you Voters who are visual learners
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Crackhead son with zero experience gets $175k per month job as Oil exec.
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2020. Now he’s ready to fix America.
Fantastic LP1…and I am always very happy to see your posts. I have missed them!!
Why thank you Winky.
Election rapidly approaching, time to rally the troops.
lawrencepaul1??
I wrote an addition to your timeline. See my post further down. ?
(In ‘91 it could say say “play with us” rather than “ stay with us”. ?)
For Treepers in Pennsylvania .
Justice Roberts just scruuuud us again.
The outrageous changes to election law stand .
You need to flood the Republican branch of the legislature to pass a resolution that they do not agree and the US constitution delegates the authority to change how electors are picked to the legislature.
This would help for appeals.
Treepers,we need to flood the senate to get Coney Barrett on Scotus ASAP
I cant decide if Roberts is compromise or martyring himself to show the court isn’t biased. Either way he is against us.
lawrencepaul1
Your comment information would make a great billboard ad!
If I had the money I would put it up where I live…..and on Interstate 10.
I agree. Great visual.
There isnt a billboard big enough to show the Biden Non-accomplishments
That was very good! LP1
You are *awesome*
2008 Crackhead son and brother start Rosemont Capital. Within weeks RS begins receiving $130,000,000 in federal bailout loans thru TALF. Funds flowed thru the Cayman Islands to avoid taxes.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/hunter-biden-linked-company-received-130m-in-special-federal-loans-while-joe-biden-was-vp?_amp=true
May I copy this and use in an email??? Brilliant!
Oh course.
Masked Jackal.
https://www.redstate.com/kiradavis/2020/10/19/whitmer-tired-of-masks-vote-biden/
EARLIER: @GovWhitmer says “if you’re tired of lockdowns or you’re tired of wearing masks or you wish you were in church this morning … it is time for change in this country.” #MTP
Now that her illegal edicts were found Unconstitutional, this vacuous psychopath admits it was all political torture.
When her Attorney General is aiding and abetting this, she feels embolden to reveal herself as the Masked Jackal.
Has anything actually HAPPENED from her actions being found unconstitutional? She is still Gov and is still making ridiculous demands. Has anything positive actually happened from the finding?
I have the same question about Pennsylvania.
If Pennsylvania election law changes are not overturned , Pennsylvania will be lost to frsud
“Baase plans to begin collecting signatures to recall Whitmer, Gilchrist and Benson on Nov. 1. He said he’ll have petitions at all of the state’s polling locations on election day and will “double-back” with those who sign them to see if they want Nessel recalled at a later date, once her appeals window closes.”
https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2020/10/recall-petition-for-michigans-attorney-general-gets-green-light.html
Better quote:
“This is a gravely serious moment for all of us and if you’re tired of wearing masks or you wish you were in church this morning or watching college football or wish your kids were in school in person, it is time for change in the this country and that’s why we’ve got to elect Joe Biden.”
Retchin’ Gretchin Whitmir
(All kidding aside, What more proof is needed, Remove this Psychopath now)
To me it sounds like a threat that unless you vote for Biden, these restrictions stay in place when President Trump is reelected.
Elect Biden (aka Harris) or we continue to crush you underfoot. Unconcealed threat. Woman’s a monster.
I agree with your post, riverelf.
Some of us in the pnw view her as jay inslee in a dress.
More like the “Wicked Witch of the West”!
Wicked Whitmer of the West!
Grinchen
PDJT DUTY CREATED (Oct 19, 2020) detailed on Lou Dobbs.
Lou Dobbs Interviews Powell, Fitton, Solomon and Johnson;
The Following Interviews was Explosive in Creating a Duty for PDJT to act using the President’s Power, Required/Demanded by the Constitution and the America People.
This is a Direct Miracle Opportunity (Biden Files) for PDJT to help offset “Not Managing” the DOJ/FBI directly/indirectly, making sure Justice happened before this Election.
Judicial Watch and others “Advised” the President to take other Paths to Justice Long Ago. IMO PDJT elected Barr’s Path and must know more than we do at the time; PDJT needed to set a February 2020 deadline for Justice and should have “indirectly” Managed this. PDJT “NOW” has an “Immediate” duty to find out if Barr intentionally or unintentionally didn’t implement Justice before this election and if the DOJ/FBI/Barr has been sitting on Joe Biden Files during PDJT Impeachment, creating Liability for Barr/Wray and many others is the DOJ/FBI.
Analyze Each Sentence of this Lou Dobbs Panel; Not every word is exact and I eliminated many words/sentences that are not material for this case-in-point.
Ron Johnson:
Demands to know if FBI was sitting on Hunter Biden Laptop during the Impeachment.
1. What did they know and when did they know it?
2. Larger Question; if they had this information and if they are real emails it would probably reveal all kinds of things that would have been very relevant to PDJT Impeachment Case. WHY DID THEY SIT ON IT?
IMO Criminal Charges for all who held back information (Easy to prove).
3. Are they covering up because Hunter Biden may be engaged in things that should have been investigated and possibly prosecuted?
4. Do we have two Systems of Justice; one for Democrats one, for Republican, one for the well- connected and one for the America People?
Dobbs:
1. These Reports are “Devastating” to the Bidens.
2. Statement by the “Number One” Intelligence Officer in this country saying Schiff is a liar, there is no Russian Intelligence Operation and this is not a disinformation campaign. These Laptop Emails are REAL.
Solomon:
1. We Now have two things we are certain of; Hunter Biden was following in the vapor trail of his father’s Vice-President Jet and collecting Millions on Millions from foreign actors, and many of them hostel to the U.S. (China, Russia, Ukraine) and we now know, according to Peter Schweizer, there is a “Separate Patch“ of emails, not the ones found on the hard drive in Delaware that were part of a co-defendant trial, Hunter Biden business partner a convicted felon, AND they show Joe Biden was “DIRECTLY’ assisting, Hunter Biden Business Deals, even meeting with some Chinese Officials at the White House, back in 2011.
2. It is a “Quid Pro Quo” going both ways; Joe Biden is Helping Hunter Biden AND Hunter Biden is getting Rich.
IMO: PDJT HAS A “DUTY” TO MANAGE THIS MOMENT IN TIME DIRECTLY (Required by the Constitution).
Powell:
1. The DOJ and FBI had to have possession of this information, for a very long time, AND yet they done nothing about it with respect to the perpetrators of these Frauds, Kickbacks and Bribery schemes, telling all what is there.
2. IF I WERE PRESIDENT TRUMP; I would have both Attorney General Barr and Wray in “MY OFFICE TONIGHT” at Midnight if necessary, to know what the heck is going on.
IMO; PDJT is fighting a Legal Civil War AND MUST MANAGE THIS MOMENT IN TIME DIRECTLY (NOW).
FITTON:
1. PDJT was so right to ask questions about Joe/Hunter Biden; if they are willing to “Blow up the Constitution” with this Impeachment.
2. NOW we know why PDJT was Targeted; we know he was spied on, we know he was targeted, we know he was harassed as President; to protect Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, in many ways makes Hillary Clinton look like an amateur, when it comes to converting “Public Office” into Private Gain.
3. The question to Joe Biden, what he needs to answer “Immediately” frankly FBI agents should be asking him this; (A) DID HE GET ANY MONEY FROM HIS SON FOR MANY OF THESE DEALS. IMO under Oath AND PDJT needs to be 100% Directly Involved (PDJT Constitutional Duty).
Dobbs:
1. And the 10 Held “H” FOR THE BIG GUY; the expression in the Email proceeds that looks to be outright bribe of a public official, in this case the Vice President of the United States.
Solomon:
1. Those occurred in 2017 if you believe the emails; he just left office.
2. Joe Biden left office Broke. Look at his financial disclosure when he left office; he had more debt (1 million to 1.5 million), with No Assets, he needed to get Rich Quick, and he did. He got 20 million dollars a year in his two years out of office.
3. Hunter Biden is probably at the center of this Financial Scheme.
4. Joe Biden needs to answer if he took money from his son (yes/no) questions.
IMO under Oath AND PDJT needs to 100% “Directly Manage” all of this Immediately (PDJT Duty).
Powell:
1. If the FBI was doing its job, they would have the Bank Records for Hunter Biden and Joe Biden, all that information.
2. They should have been asking the question already, they should have been putting a case together already.
Dobbs;
1. Would any of you take Joe Biden or Hunter Biden WORD for a single thing?
2. I want the FBI to examine their records with answers provided.
3. And this is not a complicated investigation.
4. These records are all accessible to the FBI and there could be instant answers.
IMO PDJT has a Constitutional Duty to Directly Manage the Biden Files for Answers.
Fitton:
1. I don’t think the FBI should be near any investigation anymore.
2. This is the 2nd laptop they have mishandled; remember the Weiner Laptop and now they mishandled the Hunter Biden Laptop.
3. I don’t TRUST the FBI. I don’t TRUST the DOJ.
4. I don’t know how much more evidence we need.
5. They can’t be trusted to Prosecute, let only, investigating to ask questions of anyone in the protected class in Washington DC.
6. Remember AG Barr stated in May he found nothing that he is going to be asking Obama/Biden in terms of a criminal investigation.
7. Did he “know” about this Laptop Back-Then? And if he didn’t WHY NOT?
Fitton stated for Years; the DOJ/FBI will not prosecute themselves, needs a S.P. and/or Manage directly or at a minimum indirectly the DOJ/FBI and/or take many other Extraordinary Paths to Justice. IMO PDJT should have at a “minimum” Manage Barr “indirectly” and set a Feb. 20th 2020 deadline.
Dobbs:
1. Barr came into this office with high hopes, and big expectations, and a reputation that was second to none.
2. Barr has failed. Exactly what the FBI has done for years; let a case come before them, the next thing you know it is an investigation, no-one could get an answer because it is under an investigation, and that investigation leads no-where and accomplishes nothing.
IMO; PDJT is 100% Responsible for Barr’s unintentional or intentional failure to have Justice before this election. PDJT has a duty to know today if Barr’s actions were intentional or unintentional.
Powell:
1. It is imperative that Action be taken on this NOW.
2. The President and the Country has a Right to Know; how long has that Laptop been in the possession of the FBI, AND if AG Barr was told what was on it.
3. This has got to be handled, AND handled RIGHT NOW.
4. The America People has an “Absolute Right to Know” what is going on here.
IMO Barr/Wray/DOJ/FBI could be at great risk of being drained immediately (prosecuted); if they allowed Biden’s Files to be hidden for Political Reasons, a criminal act and would be part of the Coup to allegedly frame PDJT of criminal acts that they actually did AND to Reverse the Will of the America People.
Fitton:
1. We have been doing this for years. The DOJ is the same for is lack of transparency, the cover-up, the laptops, lack of concern of accountability, as the Obama Justice Department.
Powell:
1. It is a lot more than Obama, it is Hillary, Obama and Biden and “ALL” of them.
Solomon
1. The Democrats has had a culture of corruption for a long time and the DOJ/FBI has been the primary suppressers of the American public of seeing the breath of that culture/corruption.
2. AND THEY HAVE TWO WEEKS TO MAKE THAT RIGHT. (IMO PDJT HAS THAT DIRECT DUTY)
3. They should get us all the Russian Documents, all the information regarding this Hard Drive; Transparency is the Ultimate Prize for the America Public before they go to vote on Nov. 3rd.
4. SIMPLE; PDJT should order “HIS” FBI and DOJ and State Department pony up the documents, answer the questions, before election day.
IMO; If necessary, PDJT and his legal team needs to directly walk into the DOJ/FBI and not leave until they have the entire Biden Files in their possession (PDJT has this direct Power).
PDJT can offset the failure (PDJT being 100% responsible) of not implementing Justice before this election by NOW doing his Duty to Directly Manage the release all Biden’s Document before this election.
IF BARR CLEARLY BETRAYED PDJT AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE;
After PDJT “WINS” the Presidential Election, he will eliminate this nonsensical Political Arms-Length Approach to Justice AND do the President’s Duty. PDJT like all Great Leaders will make normal adjustment like in all wars and finally implement Justice and Win this Legal Civil War.
PDJT has many Paths to Implement Justice. (J.W. and many other Legal Experts).
PDJT had/has many Easy Prosecution Platforms (90% will plea) many being destroyed Financially and Mentally during the Prosecution Process (This is Part of Justice).
PDJT will Win the Presidential Election and Implement Justice with or without Barr
Yes,, I agree PT clearly has a duty to insure the Biden Files are exposed before the election..
President Trump has and had many opportunities to implement justice even running semi-parallel investigations during the coup’s legal attacks. (J.W.)
Up until February 2020 all the cover-ups and their Mueller investigation and impeachment to stop their own prosecutions allowed the coup to destroy themselves. This all was a net-positive to PT.
The line should have been drawn on February 2020 because this election is the most important election in U.S. history and indictments would inform/educate many voters that were misled and give another layer of assurance that PT wins this election.
PT now needs to act on the Biden Files to help offset the failure of indictments before this election.
This will destroy Biden and we will not have to worry about illegal voting.
Yes, PT will win the election and justice will happen.
“Up until February 2020 all the cover-ups and their Mueller investigation and impeachment to stop their own prosecutions allowed the coup to destroy themselves. This all was a net-positive to PT”
YES, this allowed the coup to destroy themselves by their cover-ups and adding mountains of paper/digital trails of evidence along with conflicting statements everywhere.
As Sidney Powell stated; it has taken this long because of how wide/deep/broad are the trails of corruption; not exact words.
February 2020 would have been a good line in the sand for PT to have drawn. PT stated many times he could have and maybe should have get more involved in justice.
PT will make his normal strategic chess moves and will implement justice probably coming out way better as always.
PT should destroy Biden with the direct evidence (case closed) within his reach/power.
Previously posted last night…
I agree with Tom Fitton (implied); PT needs to walk into the DOJ/FBI and take the entire Biden file.
Fire anyone and everyone immediately who tries to block the President.
It is time for PT to make sure the American people know the truth before this election.
PT will cause Biden to implode in the next 2-weeks.
Very nice to analyze each word and sentence of Dobbs, Powell, Fitton and Solomon…very powerful and revealing and clearly points out; Biden is checkmated and can be destroyed and much more…as J.W repeated for the last several years and implied during this interview…P/T must act and not take any chances of going into this election without educating the voters and destroying Biden.
We need 100% guarantees to win this election because our lives and our children lives are at a high risk.
Fitton was WRONG when he said this is the SECOND laptop the FBI has “mishandled”;
He forgot about the DWS/Awan laptop.
And, if a server is just a much bigger version of a “laptop”, then its FOUR times the FBI has “mishandled” such a situation.
And all four times, the error goes in ONE direction,..ONCE is happenstance,…
Also, from the FBI’s point of view, they didn’t “mishandle” them, they handled them exactly the way they were SUPPOSED to, as the Janitorial staff for the Political elites, doing a “clean up on aisle 3!”
Awan laptop was the Weiner laptop
Lol , I Agree with ya. Yet we’re still waiting on documents from years ago from the FBI.. Years ago.. This will take years. Unless people get fired. Trump wins he needs to go scorched earth.
Biden wins it’s all gone.
Problem is America accepts it as Political. The people that have the goods play it as Political. Both Democrats and Republicans in office play it as politics.When it’s CRIMINAL.. No other way to put it. They’re not working for the American people anymore. If they were there damn sure would be results..
#Trump2020
President may have to drop bombshells and teaser info for wtpous to go after, seek and find, expose. Why? He may be working around Deep State having kept access to “the red button” and is limited on what can do without a threat being carried out if not follow Deep State rules. It would be quite a work around for him but he is a military genius and just the one for this battle.
wordpress won’t let me copy and paste any of the senate report detailing Biden’s shady transactions. I think people should read and share this report as people try to discount the validity of the laptop. https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HSGAC_Finance_Report_FINAL.pdf
Sorry, long post…
GROUND REPORTS:
I am finding that the more “TV news” that my fellow Trump supporter friends and family watch, the more pessimistic they are about his chances at winning reelection.
I pretty much cut out all television “news”, or about 95% of it, a few years ago. And I have believed for at least 18 months now that in a fair election, PT will win handily.
I happened to watch just a few minutes of Fox News last night, saw Ari Fleischer talking about why Biden is comfortable calling a lid right now, for several days. Ari said basically “well, he can do that because, right now, he is winning.” I laughed out loud!
Now I’ll give you an example of why I think Ari Fleischer is clueless.
I just got back from a trip to the Florida Keys for my Venezuelan brother-in-laws 50th bday celebration. We flew into Miami and drove to Marathon. Stayed in Marathon and drove back and forth to Key West one day.
I can not tell you how many Trump signs and flags I saw lining the road from Miami to the Keys. Literally, I have no idea, I couldnt count, it was HUNDREDS. From Miami to the Keys.
Maybe a dozen Biden signs? Maybe.
“Women for Trump”
“Ex-Democrats for Trump”
And boy, let me tell you, “Hispanics and Latinos for Trump”. BIGTIME!
My brother in law is from Venezuela, BIG Trump fan. And his nephew, Pablo, in his 30s, also from Venezuela, met us in the Keys and he lives in Miami. Pablo said he does not know anyone who is NOT for Trump!
Cubans, Venezuelans, hispanics in general in south Florida are YUGE supporters for Trump.
I had seen the Trump support in the Tampa/Bradenton/Sarasota area first hand, but I had no idea it was that big in SOUTH Florida.
Then last night a poll pops up on TV showing Biden up by two in FL?!?!? I looked at my wife and said “Babe, would you look at that? Do you believe that?” She said “no not for a second after what we just saw.” I think she learned in that instant how bogus all the polls are.
(One other tidbit, I wore my Trump 2020 mask in the Miami airport, because I had to wear one to fly. I got one “Go Trump” comment and zero negative comments.)
Now, another ground report in North Carolina. I traveled to western NC mountains in July, drove from the Charlotte area. Saw lots of Trump signs, flags and bumper stickers all along the way. Very few Biden anything.
Also drove to Oak Island NC on the coast a few weeks ago. LOTS of Trump signs, flags and stickers. Very few Biden anything.
Sister in law just went to the Outer Banks NC this past weekend and she said that “Trump has eastern NC locked down”.
I think the Biden support could be more confined to dense, urban areas than even Hillary’s was in 2020. We all remember that big red map with a few blue dots. And he maybe even has less support in some of those urban areas than she had.
As Ive been saying for a couple years now, Trump’s biggest, and maybe really ONLY opponent is voter fraud.
But based on what Im seeing on the ground and on some of the court cases that have been decided in our favor, I dont know if they are going to be able to successfully manufacture enough fake votes to overcome the Trump support, AS LONG AS WE DO EXACTLY WHAT SUNDANCE SAYS AND SPREAD THE GOOD WORD AND GET OUT THE VOTE!
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, AGAIN!
TRUMP 2020
Thanks for the info. The media lies period. They hate America. The polls from the media also lie. It’s a huge scam. The few reputable pollsters who got it just about right in 2016 are the only ones to be trusted and we are winning.
We will win this and in a landslide possible IMHO. I have heard rumblings that DEMS have pretty much given up on FLA already based on early returns.
They are losing in almost all battleground states.
AZ and Michigan or any other rust belt or PA gets the President over 270. GA and NC are in the bag.
I am from PA and we will win that one also, even with quite a bit of fraud from Phila.
I had posted a list of about 8 or 9 factual reasons why the President will be re-elected a few days ago.
Biden is almost out of options for an EC win. He has to basically sweep the rust belt and it’s not looking like he will even win more than 1 state there at the moment.
same here ttp…from PA and there will be monumental fraud from Philthadelphia. Count on it.
Although I was told be a Philly resident who is voting for PDJT that support is strong for him…he will not put out a Trump sign because he doesnt want his property destroyed. He paid $8 for a small hiden biden sign. Wonder how many more law-and-order citizens in the “city of brotherly love” are doing the same.
The Trump Signs Were Everywhere Here In Topeka In 2016′.. Now There Are Only A Few.. We Are Underground And In Stealth Mode.. The BLM People Came Through In Bus Loads From KC.. And Vandalized A Few Thing’s & Spray Painted “Justice For George” On Peoples Fences, Buildings Etc.. People Are Pissed-Off And There’s Gonna Be A RED WAVE……
My area was the same in 2016. N.E. FL. Even small businesses proudly displaying Trump signs, banners, etc.
Now? Quiet as heck. People have learned just how insane the Democrats are from watching the news from around the country the past few years. They ain’t takin’ any chances.
No more Biden signs than there were Hill signs back in ’16.
A lot of people in CA are flying American flags as a proxy for a Trump flag. Less likely to get vandalized, but people get the message.
See, I wonder if this is what people in Madison, WI (and the surrounding suburbs) are doing… I’ve seen quite a few Biden signs (and BLM signs), but I just have a feeling that some of it is just being put out there as a “deterrent” to keep the vandalism/violence away from them…
But, I am happy to report that besides the one “brave soul” in downtown Madison who has a Trump sign and flag displayed in their yard, I have now also seen a pro-Trump billboard (when heading north from downtown Madison) that has “jobs, not mobs” messaging on it.
https://twitter.com/LarrySchweikart/status/1318618788326117376
https://twitter.com/LarrySchweikart/status/1318619729657958401
https://twitter.com/LarrySchweikart/status/1318618337664925697
I like optimism, but I hope people don’t get complacent. Everyone needs to vote!
Also, I hope this translates into a big house flip and McCarthy, unlike Paul Ryan (who by the way acted very “presidential/congressional/speaker of the house-like), actually pushes Trump’s and the people’s agenda.
Glad to see you post this. In the mid-terms, even though President Trump begs us to vote, only 40% of registered Republicans voted.
Why, thank you Eric. Thank you very much. 🙂
Nice! And no need to apologize. 🙂
https://twitter.com/AirBossUT5/status/1318618478631407618
You’re being charitable by calling Ari clueless. He is an active participant in the attempt to frustrate and tamp down the overwhelming support they all know is out there for POTUS.
Yep, controlled opposition.
And after watching tv news for a long time, then not watching it at all for a couple years, then starting to watch it just in the last week or so for just a few minutes at a time, and seeing how it made me mad and depressed at the same time, I immediately realized what it does to people.
dawg??
8 years for me.
Just watching a clip makes smoke start coming out of my ears, and my head hurts watching the fake outrage and drama. (And that’s just the fake R’s ?)
social engineering from the mockingbird media
Dawg – I have no argument with what you have witnessed. There are countless reports in social media and in blogs and comments under articles that appear to mirror what you are seeing.
However y’all are forgetting one thing.
Fraudulent ballots don’t hold rallies, parades or put out signs. They just show up among all the other ballots in the precincts to be counted along with the legitimate votes. Fraudulent voters don’t put out signs or go to Biden rallies; they just vote wherever they can get in without being caught.
I think the reason why we aren’t seeing much overt support out among the population for Biden is because the DemoCommunists never planned that to be part of their strategy.
Their winning margin is designed around mostly unethical and illegal votes (non-citizens/ illegal aliens, ballots purchased from registered voters for cash, non-existent voters who were never purged from roles, or just purely made-up/fictional voters), and will continue to be right up to the point that they manage surprise “wins” in critical states by those previously quiet voters (some of them so quiet because they’re dead).
But if I can think of this, so can the Trump Campaign, so I am hoping they have a way to successfully expose and challenge the fraud.
Oh GB Im definitely not forgetting that. Its all I’ve been thinking about. Read my last paragraph again.
Thanks for the great Ground report, Dawg. Loved hearing about S. Florida, esp!
Ari Fleisher always has some negative comments regarding our President such as how he should behave, or what he should say. He is not in our corner and dislike the sick smile on his face throughout his interviews.
CNN is clinically insane.
They just now reported the 299,000 excess deaths since january 2020.
They then explain that actually, the bulk of the excess is not in the older demographics but in the ages 25-44.
They then have a medical expert deduce from this that Covid is the killer and reason for disparity.
Dude. We know that ages 25-44 have minimal covid deaths. Somewhere around 7000-10,000. So if the excess in total deaths is in that cohort, would that not mean that the excess deaths are actually caused by all the exigencies caused by the Covid lockdowns–ie lack of other medical care, suicides, etc
and that the bulk of the Covid deaths (approximately 90 percent) happened to the elderly who would have died this year anyway?
seriously, how crazy is CNN and rest of media?
Indiana is a good comparison for the rest of the country:
The average age at death from the virus in Indiana: 76.9 years
The average life expectancy in Indiana (2018): 77.0 years
CNN: Don’t let the facts get in the way of another good scare story.Some of the elderly who do venture out these days look terrified and the same game is being played now with younger age groups.
https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1318616121231159296?s=20
Shoulda happened a long time ago. Before Trump was impeached. Everyone knew then!
FakeBook won’t allow this NEWS to stay posted.
They just want to look unbiased..they will probably look at it all
and says there is no there there…
They will create a narrative of denial.
Be wary. If the NYT wants “records” from the State Department (!), the “reporters” have likely been told there’s lots of “exculpatory” documents we’d love to “be required” to provide to you.
Bingo. And of course they aren’t actually exculpatory. They are either records specifically generated to imply things that aren’t true, but help cover things up, or they are a selection of existing things which do the same.
BINGO.
Suspicious Cat says, “I smell a RAT.”
I would assume that Judicial Watch has already requested (directly or indirectly) some/most of such records, has been denied, and has appealed.
Lady in Red,
You are wrong with this argument that he is an adult. Physically, yes he is an adult, but mentally and emotionally he did not get an opportunity to mature.
I read his resume and looks like he has been a bagman for his Dad from the moment he was beginning his professional life and life in general.
I will laugh at the idea that it was Hunter who suggested that he will fly on AF2. with his Dad to China, Ukraine, etc. It was all Joe Biden. Hunter was only following orders. You will see this in every family where Dad or Mom is a person making every decision for every family member.
What you suggest holds true if while growing up he had strong moral foundation and mooring. Usually that comes from a strong father or mother figure to whom you look up to as your role model.
In his case, if his Dad was his role model, then obviously there is not much to say.
On the other hand, looking at his addiction problem, clearly he was not happy with his life and he was trying to escape his reality.
By no means this is in defense of Hunter or I am sympathetic towards him. What is surprising is that he did not ODed and off himself by now.
His dad pimped him out.
How much psychological damage inures from knowing that your dad thought nothing of you — except as a money-maker for his abuser?
the text that he sent to his daughter that he has been kicking back 50 percent to his father for 30 years is beyond damning.
Joe is the principal; Hunter is the agent.
Joe is responsible for every dollar (or half of) that Hunter has collected in past 30 years. That includes Hunter’s MBNA and Amtrak directorships and everything else.
Has anyone looked into Beau’s life? It probably was same deal with him.
From a psychological profile stance, Hunter had a lot of possible reasons/excuses for his behavior. Survivor guilt for his mother and sister dying in car accident is one thing. A strange relation to his Catholicism–feeling the guilt of committing any sin at all, while at same time he sees his father’s hypocrisy–the only rationale for that is that either all sins are forgiveable no matter if you keep committing them, or that his father is just a rank hypocrite–that can screw a kid up. Then you have a host of other possibilities: sibling rivalry, lax parenting atmosphere, general environment etc…
it’s all kinda sad…but in the end, this is less a Hunter story than a Joe story,
The President can hammer that home very nicely Thursday night:
“you know Joe. I was thinking back to our first debate and how you came to the defense of your sons. As a father, I understand and appreciate that. Maybe I went too far. But then I thought about it a little more, and read the shocking revelations from the last couple of days and I now realize. The problem here isnt a Hunter problem; it’s a Joe problem. You used Hunter to make yourself millions. You took a sad, drug-addicted son and used him to be your bag-man. No, this is a Joe problem. You used and abused your sad son. And I’m afraid that you are running for President today just so you can and abuse the American people in the same way.”
I think PDJT should point blank say, ‘You pimped your son out, Joe.’
The “overdose” comment made me think… Hunter’s sudden death now might be convenient and also garner sympathy and then Orange Man Bad would have badgered him to suicide etc. Maybe he needs protective custody.
Why can’t PDJT make a Stump speech in Philly? Right in front of the Rocky statue. Introduced to the crowd by Sylvester Stallone. It would be epic. What does have to lose? Take it to the people.
Good, their votes will get counted, even after they 3 days after the election ?????
Bingo. It works both ways.
But at least the “naked” ballots won’t be counted. Ballots still have to be postmarked by Nov 3rd, and be inside the security envelope.
Treepers
After looking at lP1’s timeline of the Biden years, I want to bring attention and add to the time line, if I may lp1?
1991 Biden helps Barr become AG the first time.
“Barr also said at the hearings that Roe v. Wade was ‘the law of the land’ and claimed he did not have ‘fixed or settled views’ on abortion.”[33] Senate Judiciary Committee Chair Joe Biden, though disagreeing with Barr, responded that it was the “first candid answer” he had heard from a nominee on a question that witnesses would normally evade; Biden hailed Barr as “a throwback to the days when we actually had attorneys general that would talk to you.”[34] Barr was approved unanimously by the Senate Judiciary Committee, was confirmed by voice vote by the full Senate,[35][36] and was sworn in as Attorney General on November 26, 1991.[37]
Yes, the source I quickly pulled is Wikipedia, but there are others. They have all been working together a long time.
They are all part of the Big Club…
All treated equally and fairly, all covered for..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Barr
https://www.nationalmemo.com/bill-barrs-remarkable-history-of-scandalous-cover-up
wtd??
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Oh yes, and so much more.
Quite accomplished at what he does.
I happened to catch the closing moments of Harris Faulkner’s Outnumbered Overtime today and heard Richard Fowler (FOX Dem Contributor) BOLDLY state:
“Biden does not have packed rallies with tons of people but does have Car Drive-ins of HUNDREDS and THOUSANDS of cars pulling in to hear his message.”
Went back to the DVR recording several times to triple-check that he did say this – and he DID looking straight the camera!
HUNDREDS and THOUSANDS of cars????!!! Surely, if this were true (AHEM), the MSM would have proudly filmed and reported it — instead of only his minuscule outings with 6, 8, maybe 15 supporters and media.
Arlene, I think your suspicions are well founded.
There are fewer than 350 drive-in theaters open in the US.
For Fowler’s claim to be true, those drive-ins would have to be doing a very newsworthy amount of business and causing many traffic issues.
We’d know.
Fowler does this gig to bang stupid white women. Period. He is maga , and he knows it gets him his job. No maga no Fowler.
They owe POTUS everything.
Women are the starting point to lure a group to your side.
Hence Hispanics to maga
I happened to catch the closing moments of Harris Faulkner’s Outnumbered Overtime today and heard Richard Fowler (FOX Dem Contributor) BOLDLY state:
“Biden does not have packed rallies with tons of people but does have Car Drive-ins of HUNDREDS and THOUSANDS of cars pulling in to hear his message.”
Went back to the DVR recording several times to triple-check that he did say this – and he DID looking straight the camera!
HUNDREDS and THOUSANDS of cars????!!! Surely, if this were true (AHEM), the MSM would have proudly filmed and reported it — instead of only his minuscule outings with 6, 8, maybe 15 supporters and media.
Disney World, Magic Kingdom and Epcot Lots have a combined capacity of 11,000.
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-most-spacious-parking-lots-in-the-world.html
So, Richard Fowler, who has always been a lyin’ leftie political hack with a very small brain, is just as able to look in the camera and tell big whoppers, as the CDC does with their BS Bogus Chi-Com Flu numbers….over 200,000 deaths, seriously? AND NOT ONE REPORTED CASE OF THE FLU in 2020.
You really gotta be a midget-minded moron to buy into this crap.
And I’m getting damn sick & tired of being considered just another Stupid Trump Supporter, who is so dumb that the Communists can actually look at me and tell one lie after another and I buy into it.
That is WHY PDJT is going to win everything on November 3rd.
This time the Communists arrogance and flippant attitude toward the Stupid Americans crossed the line.
Yesterday Harris Faulkner used a Bill Mahr comedy show clip as if were heavy duty news as the basis for one the show’s panel discussions. Her show has sunk below sludge pond level in content.
doc…agree with you very much. Never really trusted her.
They aren’t showing up for Kamala either. This was her grand entrance at her “rally” yesterday – Nobody is there.
Eric Bolling Town hall taping today
Schedule your DVR
BIDEN was offered a date. He never responded.
“America This Week” host Eric Bolling will hold an exclusive town hall with President Donald Trump this week, filmed on location at the White House.
The one-hour special will feature an in-depth interview with the president in a traditional town hall format, touching on key issues of the 2020 election.
It streams live Wednesday, Oct. 21 at 7 p.m. EST across all Sinclair websites. It will also air at 8 p.m. EST, Wednesday on all Sinclair-owned CW and MYNET stations.
https://sbgi.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/TH-America-This-Week-Release-10.16.202_FINAL.pdf
In the debate, I would like the President make reference that Biden can’t answer some questions because he has not yet gotten his response from China. Example: “Joe won’t give us his list of SC nominees because his Chinese overlords have not given him the list.” Joe can’t tell you if he really supports the New Green Deal because China hasn’t told him what to say.” “Joe can’t give you the details of his Coronavirus plan because he hasn’t run it by his Chinese employers yet.” You get the picture.
Dixie you’ve nailed it…
I believe this is what happened to the Toobin crew –
The chynese overlords gave them the go ahead to begin the Erection Stimuration, and Jeffy took them literally.
Ooooo, I like that very much!
QUICK — vote on-line for Trump supporter Lauren Boebert CO 3 on-line poll.
Trump has fully endorsed her and she was invited to WH for final night of RNC convention.
Bottom right-hand corner right here: https://durangoherald.com/
voted
THX!!! I have attended three of her appearances here in SW Colorado — impressive woman — at 5 ft nuthin’ and 100 lb, with a Glock on her hip.
Done! ??
THX!!
It’s working!! Up a point in last 15 minutes. I also posted at The Donald.
This feels like its worth revisiting. A look at the last communist insurgency in the US by the Weather Underground
But we have a problem with seniors?
Problems with seniors? Suburban moms? All fake news. Always was, just to excuse the push left by the fake “R”s.
I love how at his rallies he asks how many suburban women are voting for him and you can hear the crowd roar! Media always lies about his support!
I assume this is Florida from the comment. (Are other Sumter’s in other states showing up in my search.) What I found for Sumter County, Florida was: ” It has the oldest median age of any US county and the highest percentage of residents aged 65 and older.” Given the 95% approval rate among Republicans, this certainly is hopeful.
The Villages is a retirement community in Sumter County FL….I think there are 50,000+ people who live there….
When I left there in 2018 there were approximately 120,000 people. It is known as a Republican stronghold.
“but democrats still have a large lead in vote-by-mail.” It’s because Republican’s aren’t stupid and are voting IN-PERSON!
First Glenn Beck and now Shapiro…don’t like either one of them.
I’ll take whatever votes we can get.
Yup, and good for them being honest and not clinging to never-Trumpism. Those that do must have big skeletons in their closet!!
Yes. And they both have YUGE followings. It’s important that they are very publicly supporting him.
Together, along with Shapiro’s Daily wire and the Blaze, they have almost 6 million followers on twitter, and Shapiro gets something like 50 million of facebook interactions every month – more than all of the MSM put together.
I saw a video of someone explaining this to Ted Koppel, and he was flabbergasted.
TexaninFl??
If they didn’t go this route, they would have no followers. ?
I’m glad Shapiro apologized. Sadly he doesn’t recognize an alpha male when he sees one. How did he miss that? Our founding fathers were mostly alpha males!
“Sadly he doesn’t recognize an alpha male when he sees one”
He likely does and it makes him feel inadequate.
He is just another famous for being famous media nonentity
Glad he’s voting for Trump…but he is so inaccurate in most of what he said about the President.
He’s a great debater but bought and paid for by RINO types.
I dislike Shapiro for the same reasons he dislikes PT. I don’t like him personally. He claims, at the end of the video, that you don’t have to like PT’s character, the way he acts or the bad things he says but if you care about the constitution, freedom and security then you “don’t have a hell of a lot of choice”.
So despite making the case that PT is the most conservative president in our lifetime, he in essence says we have no choice because he’s a bad person, but the Libs are worse. I’ll take his words of support and his vote for PT, but when you read between Ben’s supercilious ramblings, you see somebody in a bubble, unrelatable to the common man, a self-important cretin.
His wife is a doctor.
Thanks for your half hearted endorsement, Benji. I think you still don’t get it and are not taking it as serious as it really is.
Kaco I think good ole WP posted your comment in the wrong place…if not ?
One of the most accurate in 2016:
https://www.investors.com/politics/ibd-tipp-presidential-election-tracking-poll-2020/
“In the latest Trump vs. Biden poll, the race between President Donald Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden has suddenly gotten much tighter. IBD/TIPP’s latest 2020 presidential poll update shows that Republicans are rallying around Trump, Biden is leaking Democratic support, and the gap among independents has narrowed.”
What I will be interested to see and that I think is another major silent demographic is how many registered Democrats are going to vote for Trump? I personally know about 10. We might be hearing a lot more of that after the election, the “I’m a registered Democrat but the party has left me” crowd.
No lie, I know of around 40 dems from NOVA to Philly that are PUMPED to vote for Trump. And some of them voted for Hillary.
So, when they say early voting turnout is,…say 140,000 Republicans, 110,000 Democrats, 40,000 Independants,…
Basically means NOTHING.
Unless/until we get EXIT polls, which the campaigns are both probably/undoebtedly doing, ….in the above example there could only be 10-30,000 votes for Biden, but just going by party registration wouldn’t indicate that.
Be calm, we GOT this. And as for fears of being “complacent” I personally think thats an absurd concept, in this situation.
What part of “I would crawl NAKED, for a mile, through broken glass and rusty razor blades, to vote for PDJT!”
I just don’t see someone with that attitude, with the unparralleled enthusiasm we are seeing, becoming complacent.
Breitbart has some new email stuff from the partners out on their site now. It has a lot of implications where the Heinz kid backed out of deals because he felt uncomfortable with them.
I wonder if anyone has stuck a mic in John effin Kerry’s face to ask what he knew?
John Kerry’s Die Was Cast When He Was Tapped For “Skull & Bones”.. Another Fake Back-Story “Cut-Out” Globalist POS……
ARREST- very publicly!!
He’s most likely creating an overvote. If it’s a “Trump” vote, he fills in the space for “Biden” or any other presidential candidate, thus creating an overvote, which in turn invalidates the entire ballot.
You would think a pen or pencil would not be allowed on their desk.
They don’t really need one.
I dont think there is any way of knowing whats going on there. He could have just been looking around. But why is anyone allowed to take a pen or marker to a ballot for any reason at all?
Well, it is in Germantown, MD. We ain’t winning that state anyway. But how much of it is going on elsewhere?
https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1318629111674359812
Yeah, Joe’s totally got this in the beg, right? r-right?
bag*
You had it right the first time.
haha. Love that the Democrats have adopted our Warmongering, Big Gov., Elitist, Corrupt RINOs as their own. Much better fit for all concerned. Could be seen as a problem for the “progressive” Dem voters tho. LOL.
https://twitter.com/hshaban/status/1318557786285002754?s=20
The unbelievable arrogance of their campaign to already be assembling their cabinet already makes me sick. Too bad he’s going to lose though lol
This is like Hilary picking out her curtains. Unbelievable gaslighting.
Ted Cruz did the same thing. He named his VP before the primaries were even over. Didn’t work out to well for President Cruz, and I don’t think that President Biden will fare much better.
Bettered only by Time magazines Madam President front page in the presumptuousness stakes.
This all BS for public consumption.
The selections for every appointed position already exists and will “temporarily” assume their roles the minute Joe B is sworn into office on 20 January 2021. Every appointee from President Trump’s administration will be told after the election is settled to vacate or have their boxes packed. Every one one of them had already been approved previously by the senate and currently work for either Obama, the Atlantic, in the media or one of the other democrat run Think Tanks.
A bunch of has-been RINOs. I hope Kasich doesn’t call himself a Republican anymore.
Ummmmm, these are not Republicans. They would be right at home in a Harris administration.
If of course there were to be one.
Bout as likely as a three legged horse winning the Kentucky Derby.
I agree!
It’s a narrative line to make him look a moderate. “Joe Biden’s transition team is vetting a handful of Republicans for potential Cabinet positions …Reaching across the aisle…could shore up Biden’s credentials as a unity candidate.”
BS. The Obama/Harris/Biden White House will be filled with leftist corruptocrats.
I wonder who Valerie Jarrett is really thinking about?
Eric Holder back as AG?
Hillary as Sec Def (she’s already made it clear she wants the job)?
Sue Gordon as NSA or DCI?
Elizabeth Warren as Commerce Secretary?
LULZ at them thinking this somehow causes ANY OF US to think twice… “wow, he’s so bipartisan he wants FLAKE?! Count me in!”
dumbasses
Actually floating Kasich’s name will possibly alienate the left. I remember when he was a speaker at their convention reading basically, fine but that’s it there is no place for Kasich in a Biden administration. I wish I could remember who said that, a squad member maybe?? Some lefty journalists?
LOL- Biden thinks naming republicans that the voters rejected will help him.
Meg Whitman – CA governor loser
Jeff Flake – quit before losing in primary in AZ
Kasich – lost every presidential primary except Ohio
You guys have thoughts on there being anymore tread on the Hunter scandal??
Tuesday the 20th is now packed away and we’ve had no new releases since last Thursday….
Think they’ve tapped it out? Cutting it awfully close with the early voting piling in everyday.
Said they evidence that would be presented this week? Yanking our chain till Election Day or are they over the target?
Rudy and Steve Bannon said yesterday that the worst is coming in 24-48 hours. Right before or on debate day.
Steve Bannon said exactly that this morning on Maria’s show, as well.
“ Say it ain’t so, Joe”
At the Debate, PDJT will try to get Joe to DENY that the laptop is Hunters, and/or say that it is Russia disinfo.
Joe CAN’T, cause he knows if he does they will release the VIDEOS and PHOTOS.
So, THATS the play right now.
Which, SEEMS like nothing is “happening”, but at a certain point, silence is deafening.
When the msm promulgated accusations against PDJT and Don Jr., the denials and refutations (witchhunt!) came fast and steady and unequivocal from PDJT.
JOE was real quick to “defend his son” in the FIRST debate,…his continued silence confirms that its all true.
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https://twitter.com/silkdynastystx/status/1318603573773561856?s=20
TRUMP sign reappears in California. This time in Anaheim Hills:
https://twitter.com/rebas1111/status/1318401899511582720?s=09
they need to defend it from being pulled down this time
SWEET!
https://twitter.com/MSMisTheVirus/status/1318451963550265344?s=20
IT’s A SIGN!!
That’s a great spot! It’ll be seen by thousands and thousands of fed up drivers. ??
This should be starting soon. Says 4PM. Erie, PA.
I thought it was 7 PM EST?
Wonder why? I guess the corrupt leftist msm doesn’t want to upset the DC elite, Hollywood celebs and the enlightened of Upper West of Manhattan?
I’m as skeptical as the next guy on the Q thing… and yet, every time the left willfully ignores great efforts toward destroying child and sex trafficking rings, they legitimize the conspiracies.
I never really gave this “Q” thing a second thought. I’ve never read any “Q”, never been to a “Q” site, really don’t know enough about “Q” to know how little I know about “Q”.
Thanks to the leftist MSM looking for a “Far Right” boogie man to pin on the POTUS that’s on par with BLM and Antifa, “Q” is more famous now than “Q” ever thought “Q” could be.
Same with proud boys and any number of others I’ve already forgotten the names of.
Its very much by design though – their inner Alinsky needs a demon to fight against because the rest of us actually come across as highly normal, unassuming, friendly human beings. And thus, a group that wanted to pay less taxes (the tea party) became a WACIST white supremacy group
Dunp NATO. We spend $tillions to defend people who hate us.
NATO Envoys Openly Rooting For Trump Defeat, Vow Early Summit If Biden Wins
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nato-envoys-openly-rooting-trump-defeat-vow-early-summit-if-biden-wins
Oh, dear. Tisk. Tisk.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1318644698341408769?s=20
hahahahaha …. he gets them EVERY time
Yesterday 60 Minutes was with Biden.
Make them live by their own set of rules.
Expose the BS.
Sounds like the President has had enough and after tomorrow’s document release knows he will be in strong position to call the shots:
“The President abruptly ended an interview with 60 Minutes’ Stahl after roughly 45 minutes, telling the CBS crew that they had more than enough material to use. According to CNN, Trump also refused to show up for another slated interview appearance on 60 Minutes with Mike Pence.”
The President has enough footage of the interview conducted by 60 Minutes with Joe Biden and how they treated President Trump. The comparisons will won’t lie.
**will not lie
Masks are just for us proletariats and not the NYC/DC elites but especially not for the corrupt leftist msm elites! Now there’s a two tier mask wearing system in place!
Why does our side always give warning that something is coming
out? with them saying 24 to 48 hours. Why? Just release it without warning.
Giving notice just give the other side time to come out with some nefarious
plot of thier own. or some way to make excuses..
Confirmation vote on Judge Amy Coney Barrett will take place on Monday, Oct. 26,
@senatemajldr said.
No Republican In 2024 Should Cooperate With The Commission On Presidential Debates
Lesley Stahl of 60 Minutes not wearing a mask in the White House after her interview with me. Much more to come.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1318644698341408769
I think this is at the bottom of the snake pit that CIA/FBI/DOJ is desperate to hide. It’s absolutely frightening. Nothing but scum all over the government. It needs to be dismantled, burned, and salted.
“One of the biggest scandals in United States history is coming unraveled,” Moore wrote in 2018. “This is a national travesty, and people need to go to prison. The highest members of both administrations knew where bin Laden was tucked away but sent U.S. troops to die in Afghanistan looking for a ghost. Republican and Democrats working together to protect al-Qaeda and sell out the United States.”
Moore believes that Obama’s so-called Iran deal, in which the U.S. guaranteed Iran $150 billion, plus $1.8 billion in pallets of cash, was a ransom. In effect, the lofty-sounding agreement was not designed to usher in peace, but to buy Iran’s silence about the United States stashing bin Laden and his top fighters in Iran and allowing them to continue operations.
Moore says that while he was researching his book, FBI agents raided his home twice and terrorized his wife and young children at gunpoint. If true, it suggests the government did not want scrutiny into its decision to protect the world’s most wanted terrorist by hiding him in the world’s largest terror state.”
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/10/did_the_us_government_hide_bin_laden_in_iran_alleged_whistleblower_releases_evidence_to_make_his_claim.html
HAA – if the media brothels aren’t asking Biden about Hunter’s hooker and blow adventures, what would you say is the likelyhood they would ask him about this?
This is getting out of hand. Winning, winning, winning. Too much winning my heart cant take it!
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/worry-anti-american-party-trump-picking-thousands-voters-not-vote-2016/
Can we say red wave? ,,,or red tsunami? Which better scoop up all those Congressional and Senate seats.
Only one person in this race.
Always was.
Yes. The voter fraud, fake polls etc. are not about PDJT/Biden. This is about keeping the house and stealing the senate.
Joe probably knew he was NOT in the top half of his class, but he wasn’t smart enough to figure out that he was in the bottom half.
Actually, he was very near the actual bottom of the class of a ‘not top’ law school.
Maybe he was busy selling “vote futures’?
It is interesting how the crooked dems have captured the “anti-establishment vote”.
PDJT is the honest, true opponent of the crooked “establishment” in the congress, executive, and judiciary. PDJT has shown that the “establishment” is crooked, and desperate to keep him from their crooked dealings, sale of office, and criminality.
Yet the dems kept this vote with loyalty to ‘bernie’, and continue to hold it.
There should be some ‘directed’ ads/outreach to the voters who think that the ‘establishment’ should be replaced.
https://twitter.com/afbranco/status/1318582363220180992/photo/1
Ok… that is brutal. So deserved.
One step at a time though! We can’t even get there yet.
Virginia Dems corruption again.
Erie, PA here we come!!!
Cuomo is such a narcissistic fool
https://twitter.com/RebelACole/status/1318630199798497282
https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1318650812705374209
Fitton on C-Span
Sounds like Virginia was indeed in play.