While it might seem frustrating to see republicans and conservatives demanding that President Trump stop talking about the greatest act of sedition and usurpation, within our Constitutional Republic in the history of our nation, this espousal by Andrew McCarthy is factually a very wide-spread opinion within the DC beltway:
Take the intents in their best possible light, and the basic premise is that no-one cares about the abuses of power that took place. National Review article by Rich Lowry is here.
I have shared by own thoughts on this matter several times; and despite knowing this issue may not/will not drive the 2020 election; in my own contemplation I keep coming back to this central question: How can this be ignored?…
… How does the office of a U.S. president; and more importantly the republic itself; survive a coordinated coup effort involving all three branches of government; while simultaneously those in charge of exposing the corruption fear the scale is too damaging for them to reveal?
What are your thoughts?
Russiagate is the top issue and reason for my vote in this election. The criminals are all still alive, free and waiting in the shadows for Trumps exit. If they are not purged and jailed for their crimes they will return stronger to destroy our nation and its constitution. The gop only has my vote begrudgingly in relation to their support of Trump and they have been losing my support if not yet my vote. I hope that when Trump exits he forms a third party based in nationalism.
I forgot to add, when someone shows you who they are, believe them.
Amen Linda, AMEN!!!!
I always knew there was corruption, but I really didn’t have a clue!!!
Drain IT!!
Linda, Trump is one of them? Hmmmmmm!
No, we know Trump is not one of them, He just has lived in their world his whole adult business life and knows how they think.
The trick is, the corrupt power brokers of Washington DC do not get President Trump, and so he outsmarts them every time. They have not met a man they could not buy, blackmail or somehow control who did not agree with their politics before.
Outsmarting them every time has been entertaining, for sure, but accomplishes nothing but spur them on to ever more dastardly deeds.
This life-long Republican is prepared to leave the party behind forever once President Trump leaves office if nothing is done about it.
Me too!
Rich Lowry and Andy McCarthy may be right about what they think they are seeing. After all they are in DC(where the Deep State doesn’t want any interruption to their money train) or NY where the same thing applies. Most Republicans do not want to cause trouble. They cannot take the slings and arrows of politics and are happy that once in awhile their guys get in office with little or no effort.
Most Republican officials do not see the danger and if they do, they don’t care. Their leadership is limpid at best. I have found this to be true in my state’s Party along with the local one. It is so frustrating.
There are virtually no signs up for Trump in my county although it will most probably go for Trump. Their excuse is that they will get stolen anyway. They have Eeyore’s attitude in spades. Yes, many of them know of the coup and have been following it with Sean Hannity, but the whole thing is so complex that they just shrug their shoulders and have the attitude of most Republicans, ‘Well, what can we do about it?’ They do not ‘see’ the grave danger this coup has done to our country.
Donald Trump is going to have to win this one on his own, again, with no help from the Republican Party. So I guess we have to appeal to a Higher Authority. Pray!
Screw them, I have just planted our ‘Law and Order Trumps” sign for all to see. If someone steals it we have many more to plant.
I hope no makes an attempt to steal our sign because I will not treat them friendly no matter what their age or gender is.
Whether Russiagate & all its actors are eventually exposed & prosecuted, or not, in the end, the Deep State will merely learn their lessons from their errors, perpetrating such a string of serious, unparalleled crimes, and will be more cautious & stealthy the NEXT TIME they initiate ANOTHER coup or comparable crime.
The only reason for their sloppiness is because they thought Hillary would win. Under her rule they would have had all the time in the world to install China and Russia on American soil. The 60’s revolution education of the people within the secret services has to end, or those services have to end. They have more sympathy with Communists than they do the American people. That in itself should require the death sentence.
Cant believe ae are still talking about clinton! Yes woman, you still lost! Get over yourself! Enough already!
‘We The People’ will be the ones who end up delivering the Justice. No politician, judge, or prosecutor will help the President nor us. Their window of opportunity to stop this criminal act has past. They laugh at us when they gather secretly to plan more evil.
Many of them must pay dearly for what they have done to the United States of America and to the Citizens of this republic.
Everyone who has any power to MAKE them pay dearly, please raise your hand.
Think General Flynn wants us to forget? If they had their way – he would be forgotten in a jail cell somewhere? How about us forgetting Rich Lowry’s silly writing – go out and re-elect Trump – and see where the chips fall. I like that a lot better.
Who the hell follows Rich Lowry but some limp wristed Rinos. He means nothing to us Deplorables.
WHAT IS YOUR GOAL?
What every your answer to Sundance’s question reveals your goal—and most of us hear do not yet have a long-range, defined goal for what we want this country to be.
My constant prayer and conscious goal has been (and I suspect it is for most of us here) to have our desire, our NEED, for justice to be done. My goal and prayer has been for God to expose all DC corruption and to see it successfully prosecuted.
But would that goal fulfilled get us anywhere? Would that improve or stabilize our country? Not if 35% of the people are convinced that those righteous prosecutions are in fact political persecutions! How would WE react if a Biden administration put Trump and Nunes and Grennell or Sundance or Carlson or Soloman in jail?
We would be decalring it war and expousing assasinations. Do you think the athiests on the Left will have any inhibitions to do likewise–no matter the facts we put in front of them? Would YOU believe “facts” presented to you by your political enemies, whether bybureaucrats, politicians, or media?
We need to think bigger, think further down the road, think of more ultimate goals. In what kind of country AND society, would you want your grandchildren–AND your politically opposing neighbor’s grandchildren–to raise their families?
Take that question to people you know who are politically or psychologically alligned with the Left.. and be surprised by their answers. The nation is not so split on that response.
Criticize Barr and McCarthy all you want, but use your own brain: would the truth destroy this nation just as surely–and more quickly–than justice delayed, or denied? When I lay aside my emotions and just use my rational brain… the answer to that question is something I detest with every fiber of my being.
The truth of Russiagate and all the corruption in Washington may ultimately have to be administered like chemo… dosed just enough to attack and shrink the cancer without killing the patient.
“The truth of Russiagate and all the corruption in Washington may ultimately have to be administered like chemo… dosed just enough to attack and shrink the cancer without killing the patient.“
Very wise…
think of it more along the lines .. this.
the nation is the body
justice is the immune system
what you are advocating is that we ignore the immune system..
to allow the ENTIRE BODY to get sick… and many die…
and for what?
that around 5000 people who intentionally and directly poisoned our body AND justice should continue to do so.?
the nation WILL GO ON…the sun will rise…
and our national body will thrive once again after this evil cancer is removed.
stat
5000 hangings would be very appropriate. I am sure we can find 5000 citizens who would gladly help to arrest, bring to trial, and hang the guilty.
To each his own metaphor, but to clarify my perspective: the nation is the body and the people, the voters, WE are the immune system. It’s voters who decide who is good or bad for the country. Voters ultimately decide whether it’s good or bad to have open borders, well-paid but well-trained police, and a stronger or weaker military.
An injection of truth into this national body right now is going to be (mis)understood as a pathogenic invasion by 90% of the media and 35% of the “immune system” (additionally, the know nothing 10-15% will be attracted to their outrage and easy sense of purpose like drunk drivers to flashing roadside lights).
Make no mistake–the cancer of corruption is real and cannot be allowed to further metastasize. But it does no good to remove by surgery if even 20% of the immune system starts to attack the major organs and internal systems, leaving the body to hemorhage in the streets before New Years.
Not sure even the Gordian knot-cutter can solve this one and keep the patient alive. This looks like a God-sized problem, demonically complicated.
As long as there is a two tiered system of justice in this country, we cannot proceed.
Everything in this country is built on equality under the law. If that is ignored, if only the regular people go to jail while the wealthy and powerful skate, the corruption will increase exponentially. After all, what is to fear other than incarceration if no morality exists?
1. This country must return to it’s religious and moral roots.
2. Equal justice under law must be paramount.
3. Government must be a servant of the people, not the people’s master.
4. The Constitution must be respected and followed.
5. Civics and history should regain their stature in our schools.
6. Americans should realize that our country has no friends or enemies in the world, only nations who’s ideals either align or diverge from ours.
Until those who have committed treason and sedition in this country are arrested, tried, convicted, and punished for their crimes, our nation has no future.
Orange,
You raise excellent points. Restoring the country to health is tricky, if it can be done at all. I am just now realizing how much damage was seeded in the 1960’s that allowed the rot to take root and grow. Or really, even before that with the creation of the FBI and the CIA. The founding fathers would have been more horrified at the a national police force and a national spy agency with its own power nexus than at even a standing army.
The monopoly of the media in service to those same agencies on top of that makes it even harder. There is indeed at least 30 percent of the country that will perceive justice as political persecution. It is the same thirty percent that would happily clap with Olbermann as twenty percent of their countrymen are herded off onto cattle cars.
How do you untangle the wheat from the trees? Without salting the field, to mix metaphors.
Wheat from the tares.
A reference. by the way, that ninety percent of the populace would have understood in 1940, and that probably less than forty percent of the populace would understand today. And that loss right there is a huge part of the problem
The roots of western civilization are withering as the Marxists and secularists destroy education.
Here is what none of us–Left OR Right, who listen seriously to compatible (or sympathetic) news sources–realizes about the other:
Both sides believe the other side is going to arrest us and put us into camps.
Go ask a gay or otherwise protected/persecuted minority member what they fear most from this election. See if they don’t use the exact same phrases you do, but insisting that Trump, Proud Boys, and the Right are going to be the persecutors, rather than DC dems, Antifa, and the Left.
I’ve had a few of those conversations lately, and they are convincing me that both sides must be being manipulated (and that is in no way denying the factual evidence against the Deep State) to be ready to kill the other in reasonable self-defence.
The national problem is broader than we realize. That’s why I phrased that question and encouraged it to be shared: “In what kind of country and society, would you want your grandchildren–AND your politically opposing neighbor’s grandchildren–to raise their families?”
Many, many of our fellow citizens on the Left want to live in the same society you want. We’re just both convinced the other side wants us cancelled, so we get increasingly defensive and feel more justified to seek “final solutions”–at least in our rhetoric.
Nope. Nothing will last if Obamagate is not addressed. Too many people know. No law, no republic.
Funny the Left, the Fake News Media and GOPe never said that about Watergate.
Instead, Watergate was held up as an example to remove President Trump from office…EVEN THOUGH they knew, it was all bullsh*t and even participated in the coup.
Takes very little thinking.
“TWO PARTY EVIL MONEY CULT OF WASHINGTON D. C. “
More John Ratcliffs.
‘Evil prevails when good men do nothing’
The punishment for these crimes needs to start being openly discussed in the public forum, and the perpetrators engaged in the criminal activity need to be loudly, clearly, and unequivocally named and associated with their crimes. I would be ok with the man at the top ultimately getting a pardon (as I am asked to forgive, so I do… and I think there’s a huge amount of national healing that could occur if this act is allowed to take place), but he needs to be placed before a firing squad as a clear reminder of the value we place on our lives, liberties, and our pursuit of happiness.
First, is Lowry correct in his assessment? Second, whether Obamagate is a big issue in the election is immaterial. The pocketbook is always the big issue. This is about dismantling our republic. It demands a full airing and prosecutiions.
Indict, try, and convict, and PEOPLE WILL CARE!
anyone who is not representative of ny values NOR is an elected official has zero standing.
period.
does this joke of a opinion artist work for the people i elected.
no
he is therefore a zero…
i reserve my attentions and energy to ONLY those that support this president and his efforts and his HONOR
anyone not qualified can
SELL CRAZY SOME PLACE ELSE
We the People don’t need permission to hire our representatives. The DC criminals don’t get to remove the ones they find objectionable.
“We the People” are the government and anything else is tyranny.
A thousand likes Orygun!
I’ll see your thousand, and raise you another thousand!!!
We are seeing an insidious insurrection. Infiltration from years of putting follow travelers into positions of command and control. Where we allowed it to reach levels that we can not bring indictments for these abuses. They controlled judges, law enforcement, law creation and even bureaucrats through out the executive branch. Federal and state government protecting them at all levels.
Look at how difficult it was for President Trump to do anything. Constantly stopped by judges and law makers. With investigators stalling on every aspect of investigation. The congress and senate want even allow appointments during recess. There has been a constant running House.
This President has showed us how deep this insurrection is.
He had to win the peoples support. Then clean up the courts with judges that will judge based on law as written. A massive cleaning up of the House and Senate and courts.
If any charges were to come they would never go anywhere without these changes first.
We are seeing an amazing operation to return the government to the people.
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
He ( President Donnald John Trump) knew what he was up against before he ran for President.
Super GREAT video. Many thanks for posting it.
Still true and perhaps more than ever.
The GOP is for the GOP. They’re all up to their eyeballs in corruption. They won’t lift a finger for the President, as they hope the Democrats prevail without getting their hands dirty.
Well put!
McCarthy is a creature of DC and that is his tribe, not Middle America. He is circling the wagons on this issue as a defensive posture for the Deep State denizens that reside in the Swamp. Packaging his distress as wise political advice is just a ploy to fool the idiots and appease the boys at the club. He should be viewed as slime. Real people understand that the most heinous crime in American history is no trivial thing, and sweeping it all under the rug will only guarantee that it happens again very soon.
This is the same as when Bill Clinton was caught being the perv he is and Hiilary started the “move on” group. Basically the GOPe is saying, “Ya, it’s true. Now let’s just move on.”
2 Thessalonians 2:2-14 King James Version
2 [Be] not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
All corruption must be revealed so that it can be cleaned. Simeon told Mother Mary, “and your own heart shall be pierced, so that the thoughts of many shall be laid bare.” It’s going to hurt the soul of this nation, but for our nations sake it must be laid bare! May the Lord in His mercy, make it so. Amen
>>”….most people just don’t care about it …”
I think it’s more accurate to say that most people don’t even know about it. The press have lied through their teeth about this story for years, and they are still lying to this day.
If by “drop the Russiagate issue” you mean “work like hell to get Donald Trump re-elected in an historically indisputable landslide and then conduct pre-dawn Roger Stone-style raids on all the perps the day after Trump is sworn in again,” I’m totally on board with that.
Here’s my swamp story. Years ago I was a secretary assigned to the staff of a local official. He was a pig, and EVERYONE knew it (except me, I was young then). So when the official started groping me at work, I complained to my boss in the permanent bureaucracy. My boss knew The Honorable Mr. Groper on a cocktail basis, so he did nothing. The groping got worse. I took my complaints up the HR chain of command, to no avail. I even spoke to a police officer about charging him with assault. The po-po didn’t come right out and say it, but the message was that he would have to personally witness the official groping me before he would feel he could write it up without jeopardizing his own job! Eventually it became so bad that my health was ruined and I was forced out of a job I was really good at and loved.
I filed a lawsuit for sexual harassment, economic and emotional damages and we actually went to trial. I sat in a courtroom for days and watched every single one of my co-workers and supervisors commit perjury to protect Mr. Groper. Several of them even implied that I initiated a sexual relationship with Mr. Groper, who at the time was 40+ years older than I. Needless to say, I lost, despite The Honorable Mr. Groper’s testimony that yes, he in fact groped me, but he didn’t mean anything by it and I didn’t complain (wink wink). Mr. Groper and all my co-workers got to keep their jobs, their income, their pensions, their cocktail party invitations, etc. My co-workers had no loyalty to me whatsoever, and they knew me and had worked with me for over a year! I was shocked out of my mind. They looked me right in the eyes and lied about me. (Again, I was young and shockingly naive.)
If it is this easy to betray someone you know personally, imagine how easy it is to betray millions of people you don’t know and will never know.
It takes real guts to do the right thing when there’s no obvious upside for you, except on an intangible basis like integrity or honor, and nothing but downsides like losing your cushy job, your expensive house & cars, your pensions, and your cocktail party invites.
McCarthy and Lowry are cowards. It seems to me that they’re hedging their bets in case the coup plotters manage to steal the election. After Trump is re-elected their tone may change a bit.
But they live in the swamp, they work with the swamp, they go to swamp cocktail parties, and their kids probably go to school with kids whose parents live and work in the swamp. My sense is that DC is a very small town where most people are one or two degrees removed from everyone else, even the big players. They literally know, or know of, each other to the same degree that other small-town Americans know each other. (Anybody from a small town will know exactly what I mean.)
McCarthy and Lowry, and the “establishment Republicans” they see at cocktail parties, want to protect themselves and their lifestyle: Truth, Justice, and the American Way be damned.
Really EXCELLENT. THANKS, E.
I have my own courtroom experience on a matter of less importance and also got to watch lying and wink-and-nod from the witnesses and judge. Leaves you feeling sick, it does.
Cleansing has to start at the top if it is to be done within the law. If it doesn’t get done that way than it’ll start at the bottom, be done ‘otherwise,’ and do much damage to our country. But what we’re watching now CANNOT go on.
Living a lie is like drinking poison for breakfast, and we have been forced by the media and the deep state to live a lie for the last four years. The poison must be purged, or America can never regain its health.
I listened to Trump on Rush the other day.
As bad as the Russia scam was I don’t think he gains much by focusing on it.
Not that he should ignore it but it won’t win him votes by harping on how he was mistreated and how this was in fact a coup attempt.
Public perception of it is already solidified in many ways.
He should keep it simple and short: “We now know that the Russia story was a massive lie told to the American people by the corrupt media and the Democrats.
And the media and Democrats continue to lie about it.”
Then move on to what he will do in the future.
These are times of uncertainty, voters want reassurance.
I agree that the focus on the unfairness of ‘Russiagate’ does no good. However the fact of an attempted (still not conclusively ended) coup is critical and talking about that is good: If a duly elected president can be replaced by insiders just because they don’t like him that’s the end of America and THAT’S an issue everyone can relate to.
Thanks Mongo, you nailed it.
Mongo, keep in mind the LEFT has been shielded from the information we all own. Their ONLY vision of the President is the Nasty Narrative churned out every morning to ALL media. Technically, the left have been brainwashed by the MSM. Switch between all the channels and you will hear the same buzz words each day, and tomorrows’ buzz words will picture him as more egregious than today’s buzz words. The President is not totally inactive; EVERY day, at least once, he mentions the Lie, knowing that’s making the guilty ones sweat a little and tinker a little with their plausible deniability, to see if it sounds enough to them. Maybe that’s all the satisfaction he needs; them sweating a little each day.
There are two purposes to delaying any type of justice. Obviously, to “protect the institutions and people involved”. The secondary part is to give Trump Voters a reason to stay home and not vote. Some proportion of folks who voted for Trump in 2016 will look at lack of progress on holding those in our government accountable, and will not bother to vote since “law and order” isn’t and it just more of the same old sweep it under the rug game.
I agree that the topic seems unlikely to sway votes, but IMHO PDJT should continue to bring it up. Americans of all stripes need to know and understand it. If history is any guide, some not insignificant number of people, finally, are paying attention to politics here in the home stretch of the campaign, and they just might learn something from him about this heinous incident in American history. That these linguine spined types think he should shut up about it is, in itself, a solid argument that he should absolutely talk about it.
The the Russia Gate is a MURDER offense. LOTs of people have DIED and therefore the case is never dropped until JUSTICE is SEVERED…
I0 to 1, these so called republicans are tied to coup or are blackmailed by opinko, brenan, or soros
Neat scene near the end of the (2005) Movie “Dirty Deeds”.
US gangster John Goodman is locked in pen out in the Australian Outback with his mob partner. After realizing they were set up by the Australian Gangster they tried to eliminate, he says, “they are all in it; the politicians, police, you would have to kill everybody…”
That is exactly what we in DC today, as is aptly described by SD as the President vs financial puppet masters controlling major elements of ALL 3 branches of the US Government.
So these politihacks want the Victim of major criminal activity just to ignore the criminals and to accept there will be no justice? I won’t accept that, no normal person should.
Andrew Mcarthy….the one who said “Jim Comey is a very good and long time friend, and I have a hard time believing the statements made against him….” Rich Lowery, never-trumper, faux conservative and basher of the Fair-Tax…? Of course they want Trump to “move on” from the traitorous actions of the deep state. You just keep going Mr. President, WE support you 100 %.
To the Beltway Republicans: “People in Hell want icewater too.”
Re-elect President Trump.
Appoint Ms. Powell as Special Prosecutor.
Hand Sundance’s evidence to Ms. Powell.
Schedule a court date with Judge Roy Bean, just west of the Pecos.
The greatest act of sedition and usurpation, within our Constitutional Republic in the history of our nation, IS the 0bama coup of 2008!
The “Russiagate” Issue is merely results and to be expected. EVERYTHING happening now is to be expected. Actions have consequences!
Nancy Pelosi was the person who signed off on and certified 0bama as being legitimate and: All Our States went along. All three branches of Our government went along as well as Our military and militias. All three private political parties went along, Democrats, Republicans, and Libertarians. THIS IS OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM!
This MUST be corrected! Our Constitution MUST be Enforced, Respected, and Restored.
Truth Matters! Our Constitution Matters!
We are continuing to witness the results of complete treachery to US, Our Constitution & Our Rule-of-Law.
“No Person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;” — Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 of Our Constitution
0bama can never be a “natural born citizen” of the U.S. because 0bama’s father was Not a U.S. citizen at the time of 0bama’s birth. No wiggle room or gray area!
“This issue is Not complicated at all and very easy to understand.”
“The only definition of “natural born citizen” that matters is the one held by the Founding Fathers!”
Our Framers used the law of Nations in DEFINING “natural born citizen”.
“Law of Nations, Book I, Ch. XIX, at §§ 212, is this:
§ 212: Natural-born citizens are those born in the country of parents who are citizens – it is necessary that they be born of a father who is a citizen. If a person is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”
The leaders of both parties are continuing to ignore the natural born citizen issue. Neither of Harris’s parents was a U.S. citizen.
Compare to: I just got news that I have cancer which has spread to several major organs. This news and the daunting treatment regimen I face is more than I can handle therefore it is better that we all just ignore the situation…ABSURD!
People who oppose exposing the problem and implementing a solution– are inherently part of the problem, it really is as simple as that.
This is about the rule of law. Does it have one level that applies to all, or a second level that exempts those in power.
If Biden wins there will be no justice. If Trump wins there’s a chance for justice during his second term. In the short remaining time between now and election day concentrate on winning. Russia Gate is too complex for those who haven’t followed it closely. Concentrate on the rallies, the flotillas, the positivity. Win the election or there won’t be any justice.
The coup plotters and participants must be exposed and prosecuted. Ideally, they should also be convicted and punished. Barring that, we will not have a representative government at any point in our future.
I think they’re saying they want POTUS to drop it, not that the case should be dropped. He is spinning his wheels on this. Barr is NOT going to prosecute until after the election no matter what he knows. If Biden wins, the case goes away anyway. And yes, nofreelunch, we do have two sets of laws. That should have been obvious since the clintons came on the scene.
These evil actions cannot be ignored. They constitute the most important issue because they were and are assaults against the foundation of our republic, from within. Had they been living at the time, McCarthy and Lowry would not have been among the fifty-six.
Talk hard Mr. President. Never stop talking about this! EVER
If they get by with it this time, why would they not do it again and be more successful next time. Isn’t the reason we have punishment for breaking the law to deter lawbreakers? We must go through the process. Too big to fail or too big to be punished is being sold to us by those who do not want to follow the same rules the rest of us must follow.
The problem with dropping this issue is this: If we don’t hold those responsible for their criminal actions, then they…or others…will do it again, and again and again.
We MUST not let this ever happen again.
My take: Group Think runs deep in DC.
Perhaps this article holds part of the answer to Sundance’s question. This would go a long way toward clearing out the swamp. Saying, “You’re Fired!” to those disloyal to him, all at the same time, would make it hard for them to find new jobs. It would be a cosmic play by Trump.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/09/white-house-appointees-resignations-428412
“But veterans of the personnel office say that asking for provisional resignation letters ahead of an election — rather than, say, in January before Inauguration Day — would be highly unusual.
“None of the Republican administrations have done that before,” [a common practice among Dem administrations? But I digress]
…..
The two current senior administration officials said PPO’s pending order for these resignations is not yet widely known within the administration — nor was it clear the president is aware of the personnel office’s plans or has approved them. Trump said in August that he considers “firing everybody.”
If Trump loses, it’s unclear if any of the resignation letters would be accepted or if appointees would be allowed to leave the administration on their own terms. But administration officials expect a mad scramble to find post-Trump employment, raising the prospect of an already hollowed out federal government emptying further in its final months.
The officials familiar with PPO’s plans said they would instill fear and uncertainty in political appointees, and complained that the potential order would complicate their ability to find new jobs. It’s easier to find a new job from a secure perch, they said.”
Yeah, I can see it really bothers Andy to know that the FBI, CIA, DoJ, DoS and many others acted in concert to try to undermine Trump and members of his administration. How dare the president take it seriously and personally, right? I wonder if McCarthy and Lowry had been the target of a 4 year smear job by every institution in Washington DC and the national phake nooz media if they would simply step up and say “I’m just going to accept the 24/7/365 liefest that has been perpetrated against me because people have already made up their mind about it.” The arrogance of McCarthy and Lowry is staggering.
If Andy McCarthy is correct, then the Republic is lost.
He is SO delusional. Only swampies have moved on. The vast majority of patriots and others who cherish our republic want indictments, perp walks, trials, convictions and lengthy prison terms/executions. Take that to the bank!
Hearing and reading this more each day. THAT MY FRIENDS is the KEY difference b/w Dems and R’s. Look at Watergate. This is FAR, VASTLY WORSE. Yet the R’s are fighting to drop the fight. Dems would have indicated and convicted EVERY R involved if shoe on other foot. Dems don’t need WH, Senate or House TO CONTROL American. THEY CONTROL R’s, who are too weak, worthless to fight.
So, EVERY crook from the past 8Y Boehner, Ryan, McConnell, McCarthy, Hannity, Rush, and EVERY R in Congress condemned and called out to be prosecuted are now ‘FREE TO WALK” with THEIR BLESSINGS.
Precisely WHY I vomit when thinking I have to vote R to save the senate, save the house, save the country. Because I KNOW, ONCE they are elected, they don’t do one thing to help me, Trump, save the country; they only PAD THEIR bank accts, their family’s bank accts and their ‘connected’ friends bank accts and laughingly say, screw those idiots that are such suckers and losers….
Here! Here!
The country has been lost since Obama was elected in 2008, inaugurating the Democrat party as the Insane Left (my term, as I quickly recognized, though I had voted Democrat for President for the 8 straight previous elections, going back to Carter — my first presidential election vote, at the ripe old age of 24 — I was only 20 in 1968, too young then to vote — was for Nixon in 1972). Since 2008, the Democrat party has not been legitimate, but an openly criminal mob and insane cult of deluded hysterics. The current election cycle is illegitimate and obscene to the vital truth necessary to the continuation of a Republic, which — as Benjamin Franklin surely understood from the get-go (“…if you can keep it”) — requires a mentally competent electorate, at least overall. The election of Trump gave us hope of retaking the Republic, but the insanity and criminality (including mass treason) of our “leaders” has not been confronted and dealt with, and so we haven’t retaken it..
They are being allowed to pretend the system is working, which means they can pretend they ARE legitimate. Again, that’s obscene.
If YOU are against what is being done and WE are, the country is not lost, unless you have surrendered your obligation to our founders and heroes to uphold the freedoms for which they sacrificed so much.
it is a government of, by and for the people.
We outnumber them.
if the authoritarian power, done by a MINORITY of people, has beaten you, thank you for your input, please take your chair on the sidelines while we take up our flag and our cross and continue the battle which God also obligates us to take part in for generations to come.
God bless and be on your way to the sidelines.
Michael Flynn Jr. weighs in:
https://uncoverdc.com/2020/10/11/if-my-family-can-so-can-yours/
We the People care! The deplorables care! Every law loving citizen of this once great nation cares! It’s the corrupt media and never Trumpers and the whole left that doesn’t care!
I am with you! Even if I could forgive the conspirators , which I cannot, how do we even fathom forgiving them for what they did to Justice Kavanaugh? the Impeachment? The BLM destruction? The critical Race Theory garbage? The Covid shutdown? Rigging the debates? I feel I could go on and on. If we let the coup plotters go then we do nothing about all of these other messes that were made to cover for their ridiculous plot ? I don’t think so!
I just hope we all vote! Every conservative site I read today is pessimistic. I cant stand the defeatism. We may lose but if we do this defeatism has a lot to do with it.
It is heartbreakingly SAD for me to witness my fellow Americans willingly trade their Freedom, Liberty, and even livelihoods because their County Health bureaucrat says so … and the Americans who blindly obeyed this “health” cancellation of Liberty also accept Deep State coups.
Not the same country I was BORN into.
The SHY Trump voters and the massive boat and truck and whatever ralleys deny that many are trading.
Why is every conservative site so pessimistic today. I had to quit reading. I came here for some optimism!
We the people must fight to remain a republic as defined by the Constitution, or we the people will be trapped with-in a malleable rule making, insidious political entity. Obama’s legacy is not the Paris Deal, or the Iran Deal, or the Obamacare, DACA or the you name it deal.
His legacy is subjugating the Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights, etc and replacing it with his raw rules of political power the likes the Kings and Queens of the British Empire could never imagine, nor wish upon their subjects. McCarthy and Lowry and the likes of are just modern day court jesters.
Obama’s legacy, if successful, will be the destruction of the Ideas, Identities, and Institutions of British civil society that has molded our exceptional, great nation for more than 250 years. How will our civil society be different after its destruction….tba. VOTE!!!!
You’re so right, McFly. Here’s a video I ran across of mike Wallace and ayn Rand. Talks about both parties starting at about 14 mins in to 18 min.
Very interesting. Ayn seems as though to even answer the nonsensical ‘collectivist’ arguments of Wallace the Elder would be like talking to a current day Pelosi/AOC type.
Objectiveness. Very interesting. Ayn seems as though to even answer the nonsensical ‘collectivist’ arguments of Wallace the Elder would be like talking to a current day Pelosi/AOC type.
Well put McFly. Early historians claimed there were three types of government: Monarchy, Aristocracy, and Democracy. I don’t think we have a name for what our government has become. We have a chance but not a certainty to restore our Constitutional Democratic Republic
I sort of agree. Too many of the young generation have no idea. Even the young ones who think otherwise now will one day learn. Hopefully, then, they will reclaim their own voice.
if memory serves, Aristotle catalogued the forms of Government like this: the good forms are
1) Monarchy 2) Aristocracy and 3) Politeia, and the corresponding bad forms were
1) Tyranny 2) Oligarchy and 3) Democracy ….
…yes, good old Democracy….a form that allows 51% of the people to vote for tinkling on the corn flakes of the other 49%.