President Donald Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden take part in the first presidential debate between the two 2020 candidates. The Cleveland, Ohio event is moderated by Fox News anchor Chris Wallace who will transparently assist Joe Biden.
The anticipated start time of the debate is 9:00pm ET and will be broadcast on all network channels. To avoid the narrative engineers C-SPAN, OANN and Newsmax will also be broadcasting the debate live. We are providing the livestream links early to prepare.
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CNN’s poll shows Biden 60% vs. Trump 28%
In 2016 the CNN poll showed Shrillary 62% vs. Trump 27%.
Imagine that! Nearly identical!
And who won the Election in 2016? 😉
Yeah, but only 8 people have voted in that poll so far. ?
Yes, but in common core math that means 800 million people voted and 950 million of them supported the creep.?
How many Trump supporters watch CNN or follow on social media to participate in their poll? I’m surprised he got 28%.
Notice on thing….Drudge is not having a poll……
Drudge is like the NFL to me ….
They still exist??????
Eleventy seven out of five people think Biden won.
Liz Sheld had a great piece in her column yesterday at American Greatness (scroll down for it):
Morning Greatness: Joe Biden Is the Winner of the First Presidential Debate
Sorry for the scare title, I just want to get you ready for the headlines tomorrow.
Tonight’s the night for the debate, I didn’t think it would happen but here we are. The debate will take place at 9pm ET tonight, which means I probably won’t watch it live as that’s my bed time. There will be no handshake at the beginning of the debate which is really stupid since everyone will be tested for coronavirus. More virtue signalling. The audience will be 80-90 people, all tested for the virus. Will they be wearing masks anyway? I bet they will.
Chris Wallace of Fox News is the moderator, I’m not a fan of Wallace but I guess it could be worse. Wallace can be harsh but he also tends to be less harsh with Democrats. Will he push Biden on his vacuous and vague policies? Will we finally learn all the things that Biden would have done to save the world from the Chinese virus? My money is on “nope.”
The topic of the debate will cover 5 topics: 1) The Trump and Biden records; 2) The Supreme Court; 3) Covid-19; 4) the economy; 5) race and violence in cities; 6) the integrity of the election.
The big question is what will happen with Biden. Will he be jacked up on modafinil and B12 shots? Adderall? Cocaine? Ritalin? Jolt cola? Biden refused a drug test which is kind of a silly thing for a presidential debate but why not call Trump on his bluff? I think we know why, Joe is juiced. Will he give a great performance? Will he be cogent and articulate? Will Wallace push him? The bar is very low for Joe which is dangerous because as long as Biden doesn’t gaffe up or slobber on himself, the Cathedral will anoint him the winner.
President Trump is a wild card, he’s an unknown so there’s no way to predict what how things will play out tonight but one thing is certain: Joe Biden will win the debate. Take that to the bank.
https://amgreatness.com/2020/09/29/morning-greatness-joe-biden-is-the-winner-of-the-first-presidential-debate/
Maybe that will make you feel better.
Can only imagine how angry the President was the last 4 years. He let it all out tonight. Next time we will see the surgical destroyer that he is.
Upon arrival, as President Trump walked down Airforce 1’s gangway, I knew he was upset. His face said it all. Yesterday the declassification documenting HRC’s initiating of the dossier, and Sullivan in the morning. Enough is enough!
spot on! He had it, even our usually smiling First Lady looked pissed.
@valleyj you are correct. President Trump was pissed off and it really came out at the end when he let loose about the coup. I had my eyes closed and when he said Logan Act, fire might as well have been coming out of his fingertips. He got more and more pissed off as the thing went on and on. You could hear it. I have a phone based business and have had to read people without a visual all of my career. So really have to agree with your assessment.
Near the end, I agree there were signs of genuine anger. But for the most part, he was executing the tactics of a boxer — keeping Biden off balance and off script.
I heard an interesting take on the radio this morning that President Trump asked Joe all the questions that the MSM should have been asking for the last 4 years. It is amazing how many rabbit holes he exposed in just 90 minutes, all while rope-a-doping with Wallace. There were things the President brought up that my well informed wife would say, “what’s that about? I never heard of that.” So I brought up the Treehouse and began the lesson. I agree with another poster who said that alot of people probably googled Hunter Biden immediately after the debate.
Crusader, yes…absolutely!!!
Depending on the moderator…
I found myself wanting him to walk over & snatch up
Wallace drag him over to slow mo Joe & knock there heads together…
I was absolutely amazed at the restraint and grace PRESIDENT TRUMP displayed, considering this was the first time he’s been face to face with one of the original COUP PLOTTERS! the PRESIDENT is a better man than i am.
President Trump was actually very respectful given the circumstances. He also didn’t make fun of Biden stammering and messing up. He was never rude. He just couldn’t stand letting the other two spout lies and nonsense.
Like the Charlottesville lie! Miss chrissy we see you!
And the lie about VSPGPDJT calling our dead military ‘losers’ and ‘suckers.’ If I had to stand there and listen to someone tell that horrible lie about me, I would not have to able to control myself. That lie has been debunked so many times, yet the left keeps using it w/o challenge.
Okay…I am not a man, and not very big, but…
while Biden stood there lying, calling PDJT a clown, etc., and Chrissy was interrupting
to tell PDJT to stop talking and to stop interrupting, I sincerely thought that at that
moment I would have gone nuts and assaulted someone!
I agree with HOPESPRINGSETERNAL2020 that PDJT got in some solid hits.
Only once did Chrissy say something negative to Biden, when he made an off-the-cuff comment about having read the Green New Deal and that it was baaad.
Meanwhile…
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Note the sole of shoe.
The lapdog media is disrespectful to the American people by not covering, questioning, researching, fact checking, demanding answers, and calling him out on his flip-flops and lies from Biden. If they want “nice”—they should start by doing their jobs.
I remember how badly Biden trashed Ryan and Biden didn’t get away with that tonight with Trump.
That was my worry for this debate. Biden was a complete jerk during that debate. Poor Ryan thought he was debating a real person albeit a Dem. Ha! That didn’t work out too well. I only caught bits of this debate as it seemed to be going like all the other fake news debates that I have watched for most of my adult life. Time to take a breather. It’s good to know that Trump managed to plant some seeds among the thorns on that stage last night.
He’s the $750 Man! Genius!
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These reports interrupt and argue with the President incessantly at every single opportunity he gives them to ask questions . Now when he does it back they lose their minds. Bunch of cry babies…. Sucks to have an alpha in the White House, I know,,, ????
*reporters
This means President Trump was refuting lies 76 times and Biden was whining 15 times.
Trump’s ego & lack of preparation led to this, and his handlers did him no favors. Where were Javanka, Kellyanne Conway, and crew? Mark Meadows? No expert herd, but I took a few rhetoric classes & watch the debates every 4 years. I think a hundred or more people here likely could have done a better job.
He should have been prepared with multiple responses with FACTS, ACCOMPLISHMENTS, and tact. He could have had a home run with “race” with simply some practice.
1. Let Joe talk! Letting Joe ramble -uninterrupted – was a gold mine of mistakes. POTUS prevented that, and cemented his reputation.
2. Example: “Mr Vice President, my condolences to your loss of your son Beau… he was a truly special young man…
But the rest of your family has a checkered history …
– While I was pushing Enterprise Zones (never mentioned?) to help all Americans, but especially African Americans, you were enriching your Suster …
– While I was fighting, pushing, scraping & clawing to pass Prison Reform, when you were VP your Brother landed Billions of Dollars in the Middle East…
– I pardined boxing great Jack Johnson, and I worked to free thousands of young black men from harsh prison sentences – many that your draconian crime bill put into prison…
– I even called in a favor with Chairman Xi of China to release 4 young African American men from UCLA – sparting them long, harsh prison sentences … you spent your time as VP globe trotting with your son Hunter & John Kerry son, getting them Billions of dollars of investments & income from China & Ukraine.
I work hard every day for Americans of every race & hue … but I would NEVER… NEVER… tell an African American “you’re not black” if you don’t vote for me. Those are your words Mr. Vice President.
I was sent to Washington to reform this corruption & graft, to produce jobs for America, not Billions for my family.
I mean this with all due respect, but how is it that after 4 years you do not get PDJT to such an extent as to write this?
I get him just fine.
After 30 years, how is it that you don’t understand soccer Moms, Independents, Latinos & African Americans?
Trump has an amazing track record! And he was rolling around like a junior high argument in the hallway.
I think you don’t understand these groups.
Telemundo Spanish viewers 60 to 40 said Trump won the debate. I am a woman and every soccer mom I know is voting for Trump.
They said this last time that Trump was losing with women. He beat Hillary with women overall.
By the way have you seen all the suburban women in the boat parades, car parades, rallies and here at the Treehouse? Give it a rest!
And you cannot extrapolate anything from 2018. People voted for Trump that will never vote for Republicans. In 2016, they were first time voters, people who hadn’t voted in many many years, non political people and blue collar workers. They hate Republicans and did not vote in 2018. They will be back out in full force for Trump in November.
Oh and also people have core beliefs and will not change their vote bc of tone. People who hyperfocus on that would never vote for him in the first place.
My mom is 78 and HATES conflict and arguing. Just her personality.
Like many of us she once admired the Bushes and believed them to be a stately family to be admired. To some degree, she followed the Kennedy family, particularly, Rose (although not politically) Perhaps a regional thing or perhaps partly because she was an only child whose father died when she was 6 mos old and she dreamed of a seemly idyllic large family. She epitomizes the “country club Republican label…except she does not belong to a country club.
She voted for Trump in 2016 and will again. She doesn’t love his brashness and thinks he’s too full of himself. Again, her personality…she thinks people should be humble. She doesn’t watch every rally like I do and when I call their house they answer and say Trump Tower to joke because they know how much I LOVE President Trump.
But the long winded point is they love Trump’s policies and what he has accomplished and are well aware of the peril we face as a nation if Trump is not re-elected. Like me, they will crawl over broken glass at 80 and 78 to vote for him. His tone is irrelevant to their vote even if they would prefer it to be different.
Bless you Hope, appreciate your defense and not at all long winded story, great perspective!
The chaos was Wallace’s fault and I thought Trump actually did fine. Biden was …unsubstantial. Didn’t hurt Trump , in my opinion. At one point, Wallace reminded Joe of the question when he was going off.
All that had to do with the moderator….
I would have brought up the Pacific Northwest was set
on fire by arsonists & not global warming but who am I ?
I also would have lost it a lot more than POTUS…..
Noticed that all the hundred of thousand, maybe millions of acres
that burned were on land considered snow pack ? Could all of CA.
drinking water end up being compromised by this?.
BTW, did he mention the 3 Middle East peace deals he helped broker?
Team Trump gets a below average grade. Maybe failed.
Four years ago he was the Outsider. Sure, he had to deal with Wallace & Niden interrupting – but when he had 2 minutes, he wasn’t a prepared Statesman. Tonight he could have been the Statesman, but he came off to many as petulant, a bully… Biden probably even scored points when he said, “Oh, shut up.”
And why the hell did Team Trump even agree to Chrissy Wallace? More ego?
I pray this isn’t disastrous. Maybe Trump is like Obama, better behind a teleprompter.
You watched a different debate than I did.
Very different!
I loved it wish Sidney Powell could have gotten away with the same
behavior early in n the day….Trump is Us…. WE LOVE YOU WE LOVE YOU
WE LOVE YOU WE LOVE YOU !!!
Considering that foreign policy wasn’t brought up by Wallace, I guess PDJT didn’t mention his mideast policies.
Only so much you can do in a crappy debate format like that with a lousy moderator.
I think many who watched the debate (what were the audience totals anyway) might have cringed at the bullish tone President Trump took but when they stop to think about it they will also remember what the media has put him through and think, yeah, I want/need that bull working for me in the White House. Can anyone really imagine a President Biden dealing with the likes of the current crop of foreign leaders? Can anyone imagine him telling Putin to ‘shut up?’ Americans are tired of the world using us for their own benefit. It’s high time we stand up for ourselves and that takes a man like our VSPGPDJT in a leadership role such as the President of these United States of America. GO TRUMP!
The debate was stacked against President Trump by FOX the FIXER Network and Democrat operative and Trump-hater Chris Wallace. I don’t believe ego had anything to do with Trump and his team accepting Wallace as the moderator.
Also, Todd Starnes and/or anyone with evidence that Biden got the questions in advance needs to divulge it NOW !!! In my opinion, if appeared that Biden had been given advance notice.
I don’t agree – I thought our President did a very good job dealing with the Biden/ Wallace team! Wallace interrupted and stopped Trump from responding/ completing his responses overwhelmingly compared to Biden. This affected Trump’s ability to respond in the way you believe he should have.
BofTruth: “This affected Trump’s ability to respond in the way you believe he should have.”
What did I say that gave you the impression I thought he should have responded in any way other than the way he did? I want that ‘bull’ fighting for me in the WH.
I’m pretty sure he was replying to PerotConservative.
Correct Crusader, I was responding to PerotConservative not to 1stgoblyn.
My apologies. I stand corrected.
This what a fight looks like. It isn’t boxing, it isn’t even MMA. This is a street brawl broken into 3 rounds. In my opinion, this first round wasn’t about us. It was the President showing the other side what the next 4 years are going to be about. And maybe getting some of the “mad” out of his system? But I trust President Trump to get done exactly what needs to be done. Because that’s what he’s been doing for almost 4 years now.
Again it’s a 3 round brawl and that’s only the first round. If Joe answers the bell…
Here’s what I think: This was only the first debate. The same critique for last night resembles the first debate before POTUS wooped all the other rep runners in the subsequent debates.
The fact that POTUS debated and WAS interrupted by TWO people, rudely and disrespectfully chastised by TWO people speaks volumes! Hence all polls, but CNN, going for POTUS.
The President had to endure Joe, one of the coup plotters, lying, insulting and obfuscating while being aided and abetted by Wallace, and you think that the President was a bully! Walk one day in the President’s shoes, if you dare, and let’s see what you are made of.
I think Trump accomplished what he set out to do but he also held back. For example, the fact that Hunter Biden received all that money from that billionaire widow of a Moscow mayor is supported by records. That Biden claimed it was a lie and was debunked is a set up to be used in the future.
Trump has the proof and the fact that he essentially allowed Biden to make these claims in public will come back on him in the next debate. This would be consistent with the times Trump submitted to hostile interviews and then pulled out a notebook with facts which show the media claims are absolutely false.
You’re failing to see Trump as a master at persuasion. And he is. The tactics he used were actually quite predictable once you understand what he’s doing. But Trump had an additional challenge to overcome.
Do you agree that Biden’s performance was in stark contrast to the bumbling and incoherent fool he has been all this time? No one gets “better” with just rest. In fact, too much rest actually makes things like this worse. I think Trump’s suggestion about performance enhancing drugs is likely to be very accurate.
He kept Biden off script and off balance. It worked.
But don’t think for a moment Trump used all of his ammunition in debate 1 of 3.
There’s a pattern of your comments being fence-straddling regarding PDJT. This one is no exception to your pattern.
Perhaps if he had been able to talk interrupted, he would have.
Perhaps if he had been able to talk interrupted, he would have.
Uninterrupted….
Sounds like a recipe to lose. Were you advising Mittens in 2008?
MITTENS, oh God!……….2012 pretty sure.
What a freaking joke, thinking about Romney right now, after after we see this guy, this master , this f****** LION, with his dragon energy doing his job for 3 and a half years.
I agree with you, though I also agree with some others that point out he successfully highlighted issues where Biden says he doesn’t support key liberal policies. I am 100% a supporter of President Trump and it infuriates me the way the media and Democrats lie about him constantly. I’m sure many supporters were just as riled up about the many lies Biden told last night. However, the President needs to successfully innumerate his successes to counter the lies during these debates to win over others who only hear from the main stream media. Those few in my family who are on the fence dislike his attacks on Twitter and last night’s performance didn’t help.
“…the President needs to successfully innumerate his successes to counter the lies during these debates…”
Sure. And just how will he accomplish that when interrupted SEVENTY FIVE TIMES, with his opponent telling him to shut up?
You raise some good points, but I believe President Trump was effective enough and will fill in the gaps at the next one.
I think Trump’s line on Hunter’s dishonerable was superb. Biden looked like what he is, a phony has been politician.
Trump may want to take a page from the democrat play book and go harder after Biden on his alleged strong issues race, healthcare and decorum. Highlighting his racist ideas and associations with Kamala’s words. Remind people of the keep your plan lie and obamacare enrollment fiasco. Bring up specific examples of Biden gaffes on race, guns, corn pop and hairy legs…
Did we watch the same debate? The President couldn’t get a word in edgewise! This was not a debate in the classic sense. This was a pre-planned massacre.
PT won by tossing out subjects the faux media won’t cover and by getting Biden to deny his own platform.
Nice if ,,,if and buts were candy and nuts we’d all have a merry christmas……Trump figured out early…Wallace was not going to let him make his case….so on to the strategy to notlet Biden make his…this of course involved disrupting Wallace as well as Biden. So PT didn’t win the “Presidential” award…Biden and Wallace came away looking like idiots with name calling and blatant bias on Wallace part. Trump put Wallace bias on full display. Brilliant.
I thought PDJT did fine. I don’t think anyone would think Biden ‘won’ the debate.
Biden did better than I expected, though. Makes me think he’s faking his dementia symptoms.
Wallace was his usual self. ‘I’m the moderator!’, making it about him. I’m not concerned that Wallace did any damage to PDJT. Anyone watching who wasn’t familiar Wallace would think he’s just a pompous ass.
Rather than watching live, I followed the commentary on CTH until the debate ended, and was prepared for some kind of negative performance by PDJT. What I saw was the opposite. He got lots of great jabs in even though Wallace tried to cut him off many times. Those are the things people are going to research tomorrow.
I loved how PDJT mentioned that Biden called the military stupid b#$tards. I saw that video. He said it in a speech! All of the Hunter info that he mentioned is going to spike searches tomorrow. Many people have no idea about his no-show 6-figure jobs and million $ pay-outs. That is the kind of recent news that is going to make people not vote for Sleepy Joe. PDJT nailed the last question about respecting the results of the election. That question is always stated as though – if you don’t say ‘yes, of course I’ll respect the results’, you are therefore a dictator. Why would he respect it if there’s fraud and cheating? It’s not about him winning. it’s about the American people getting the President they voted for!
Yup. Number one searches tomorrow:
Where’s Hunter?
What’s in Joe’s big ass shot?
Joe’s gonna be sleeping for the next three days.
Oh yeah. I bet their are betting pools on what time they’ll call the lid tomorrow.
Biden had notes he was using. He had to refer to them numerous times, especially when he rattled off his accusations against President Trump making us ‘weaker, sicker, poorer, more divided’ or whatever. Of course, if people can’t see how poor a president Hiden Biden would make and vote for him, he won’t really be the leader. Kamala will.
Biden is an in your face type liar, to the point of being a compulsive liar and a plagiarist. So it is no big deal for Biden to lie. Biden will have the upper hands in the next two debates as well because NO-ONE CAN DEBATE A LIAR!
Trump talked too much. He needed to let Biden speak. Trump would get under Biden skin then Biden would start mumbling and trying to get his words out, and then Trump would interrupt only to rescue Biden from his urge of getting his words out. Commentator on FOX NEWS said the same as I did, but she said Biden would be on one yard line about to fumble and Trump would rescue Biden with interruptions.
Trump began the debate with lots of anger. I could see it in him. Next debates, Trump must state the facts being Calm, Cool, Collective and stop saving Biden with interruptions.
No one can debate a liar.
I agree. I think that any “politician” who has been in office for multiple decades is a liar. They lie to cover their incompetence and lack of real accomplishment. Any private sector employee would be fired immediately for that kind of job performance. Instead politicians are allowed to “fail upward”. They all protect each other in their echo chamber of self importance. This is why we need term limits more than anything. Having a liar for 4 or 8 yrs is better than having one for 47 yrs.
Can’t you just picture Biden’s handlers: ” Look right into the camera and speak directly to the voters out there.” Typical move for a politician who’s been feeding at the trough in D.C. for the past 47 years. ugh
I was cheering towards the end when Wallace asked the question about conceding and Trump said it was the Dems. who never have conceded the 2016 election, that they tried to remove him by coup and it was Biden who suggested using the Logan act against Flynn, etc.
Trump looked like his blood was boiling and rightfully so. He used great restraint in not knocking Joe’s block off.
So Wallace, as moderator asks about something that (didn’t) happen 3 years ago in Charlotte, but then interrupts discussion about Hunter Biden receiving money from Russia, the American public is done with that.
Biden is an in your face type liar, to the point of being a compulsive liar. So it is no big deal for Biden to lie. Biden will have the upper hand in the next two debates because one can not debate a liar.
Trump talked too much. He needed to let Biden speak. Trump would get under Biden skin then Biden would start mumbling and trying to get his words out and then Trump would interupt only to rescue Biden from his inability to speak. Commentator on FOX NEWS said the same as I did, but she said Biden on one yard line about to fumble and Trump would rescue Biden.
Trump began the debate with lots of anger. Next debate Trump must state the facts being Calm, Cool, Collective. No one can debate a liar.
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“Well…well…well. A Patriot with a good eye released this.”
A video of a wire on Joe Biden?
It’s a Lavalier mic, used as a back-up.
They’re now saying it’s just a wrinkle in his shirt, accusing the one who put up the video of darkening it to make it look like a mic. The person who posted the video has now had his account suspended by Twitter.
Yeah, I caught that and wondered what it was. He also had notes in front of him.
Is it a wire, or a med tube… he may have had both
Farther down the comments, a poster has a picture of something up Biden’s sleeve that looks like a med delivery device.
Kellyanne Conway Responds To Quote “Creepy/Sleepy/Weepy” Biden Attributed To Her: “You lied!”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/kellyanne-conway-responds-quote-creepy-sleepy-weepy-biden-attributed-lied/
Confirmed by a nephew who knows his drugs. And I mean big time. He is an Expert on these matters. We are estranged but he called me after watching the debate and we still managed to speak tonight. Short summary. Nephew said it was more than just cocaine in Biden’s system tonight.
did he speculate what else?
The way his eyes looked I would say dextromethamphetamine hydrochloride…a less jagged form of meth. I haven’t looked closely at the pics yet but if his pupils were pinned and he was clenching his jaw that is the cincher. His mandible muscle would be tensed along with his temple muscle counter clenching against the jaw.
No matter how you look at this, their intent was to try to make the President look bad. Decorum? PT doesn’t care about appearances, he cares about results and he’s already accomplished that. Wallace lost any credibility by constantly interrupting PT. Biden done the same by calling the President a liar and telling him to shut up.
Trump explained the $750 tax question which I am certain none of the liberals knew about. As for going into detail about his accomplishments, anyone who has been paying attention the last 3 1/2 years already knows what Trump has done for us. The rest do not matter.
Let’s not be disheartened and keep praying for our President.
“Trump explained the $750 tax question”
No he didn’t …
….not very well
… he got a couple sentences in and got sidetracked before he could get to the main points
He didn’t get out that:
– he had prepaid some $5 million in estimated tax when requesting extensions
– the $750 was simply the trivial remainder due after his pre-payments carried forward and essentially zeroed him out for those years
That’s the core of the story and he absolutely didn’t get it out before getting sidetracked
Here’s Dick Morris’ quotes
Contrary to the false impression in the New York Times story, Donald Trump did not avoid taxes. He prepaid them.
In 2016 and 2017, he requested and got an extension to file his returns. As required, he made an estimated tax payment of $1 million in 2016 and $4.2 million in 2017.
Then, it turned out that he did not owe that much in taxes, but rather than demand the money back, he let the IRS keep it and apply it to any future tax he owed.
So when he only paid $750 in taxes for the first two years of his presidency, it was because he had already overpaid during the two previous yearsand just reduced his payment by that amount.
Dick Morris: Trump Did Not Avoid Taxes, He Prepaid Them
https://www.westernjournal.com/dick-morris-trump-not-avoid-taxes-prepaid/
Trump did fine here. He’s not going to go into detail about his tax returns because he hasn’t disclosed them and they don’t matter.
What matters is how his tax returns were illegally stolen and why the NYT’s has them.
Explaining his tax returns in a debate isn’t going to cut it. It’s complicated, especially his. Simply explained the IRS would have been all over him if it didn’t square. So far the IRS hasn’t complained. His taxes won’t work on the 1040 short form. He has the rallies and there is one tonight. I can’t wait!
I disagree that the rest don’t matter. They get their news from the main stream media. The debate is a forum to get facts out to them from our President to perhaps make them research and decide to vote for President Trump.
How many days will Joe need to recover? How many days will a lid be out on in the morning?
I seriously think they should demand no wireless connections and use land mics…too much is coming out about ole Joe using some wireless com device…dems always have to cheat
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/09/13/this-new-wireless-communication-device-fits-on-your-teeth/
The about wireless, especially those that are implanted with no externalia, who’s gonna know?
I think our Lion won tonight (how could he not), but forgot to call out joe enough on joes racist past, his corruption, and the coup. I chalk that up to PDJT being really fired up and angry.
He did get in his shots, but they weren’t as well articulated as I’d hoped.
Still a win, in my book. But I expect a calmer PDJT to really pour it on, with better timing and phrasing, next debate.
Not bad, but not great. But it was Biden so great isn’t needed to beat him.
I give our Lion a B
Tonight we saw some of the damage — no doubt well-planned — created by Chris Wray’s deliberate misinformation about Antifa, white supremacy and the riots. Biden invoked the preposterous claims of Trump’s FBI director twice. We’re all responsible to be properly informed — but when Trump’s own appointees are actively perpetuating lies, you have to forgive people at least to some extent for being confused or getting it wrong.
Obviously Trump wants Wray gone yesterday, and we know he’s waiting until after the election. But if you think of the difference it would make to have an honest and competent FBI director — across SO many fronts (FISA, Spygate, riots, election fraud, Antifa) — it’s just outrageous that this is where we are.
I’ll add that having Trump’s own people selling the lies is one of the biggest obstacles I face in trying to red pill people. Even when I can get someone to start processing some of the pieces of evidence — it’s a big mental leap to grasp that Trump would decide (or effectively be forced) to maintain conspirators and criminals in leadership positions on his own team.
Wray and FauxChi are not Trump’s own people.
They were foisted on him.
I know but you’re missing the point — he appointed them, they are quite literally “his people.” I 100% understand that he is besieged by the swamp; but I’m talking about why it’s hard to red-pill people, because it is not AT ALL obvious or intuitive that the president of the United States would be surrounded by people he appointed working against him for nearly 4 years.
When you know something, you have can become unable to recognize that when people DON’T know, they truly don’t know and make assumptions accordingly. And it’s a tough learning curve on secretly subversive appointees, especially when there are so many.
Red-Pilling is hard.
It’s similar to how some ignorant people blame Trump for the riots “because it’s on his watch”. But if he sends Feds into the dem controlled cities, then he’s a tyrannical dictator.
I think my favorite part was when President Trump casually referred to Pocahontas. I’d been listening in my car and heard that in the driveway — rushed inside, couldn’t wait to get it on the screen. I don’t know why, I just can’t stop smiling when he does that … it may be one of the most creative, laser-focused, perfect political kill shots in modern politics.
I cannot watch this — I’d hope my treepers and good folks will give me the 411. I am like millions; we cannot and won’t watch this. It doesn’t mean we don’t support President Trump! It means we cannot and won’t watch this abusive pageantry.
I hope the good people on here can give a round up on what transpired.
I, along with millions of women, and people, just don’t want to be part of the soap Opera. Just please give facts and how it went. The rest of us just don’t want to be “in” this at all.
Thank all y’all Treepers! And Sundance especially !!!
I’m with you. I knew it was going to be an orchestrated sham and frustrating. My game, ACNH was having their download tonight at precisely 19:55. I suspect all of the people who spent the past 5 months on this game to get through forced isolation were doing the same. A gazillion of those people are liberals, trust me I have seen their islands. Those people were not watching the debate either. I will watch the debate in it’s entirety in my own time, but nothing that happened will effect my decision about voting. I have spent the past 3 years studying candidates behavior and productiveness, and that is what my vote will reflect. I just stuck my neck out here to let others who don’t play the game know how many liberals were not watching the debate, and why.
That’s a shame that you won’t watch b/c you won’t get to see the constant sarcastic smile on Hiden Biden’s face. Or get the full effect of how Chrissy would shut down VSPGPDJT while letting Hiden Biden get away with just saying ‘that’s a lie’, ‘that’s not true’ etc., etc. over and over again. Our lion did great considering all the arrows that have been shot at him since he came down the escalator.
Biden is an in your face type liar, to the point of being a compulsive liar and plagiarist. So it is no big deal for Biden to lie. Biden will have the upper hand in the next two debates because NO-ONE CAN DEBATE A LIAR.
President Trump interrupted too much. He needed to have let Biden speak. Trump would get under Biden skin then Biden would start mumbling and rumbling on, trying to get his next words out and here comes Trump, rescuing Biden through interrupting. Trump could have done a lot better job, on how Biden through out his career, disrespectfully voted down policies that would have benefited African Americans.
Trump began the debate that showed anger. Next debate Trump must state the Facts being Calm, Cool,and Collective. However, No-One Can Debate a Liar, successfully.
Trump did an excellent job.
Remember, Trump knows how to use rhetoric and dialectic, and he did not let Biden just spend time lying about Trump and rehashing Biden’s campaign talking points. This is a debate, not the Biden Podcast from the basement.
Notice…Biden did not answer questions of any kind. Or elaborate on his plans. Or give details of what he wants to do. Trump forced him to disavow the left’s own green new deal and Bernie Sanders.
What’s his stance on packing the court? Law enforcement? Nothing. Biden can’t even explain what “weatherizing” millions of home means. He keeps talking about “green jobs” but not the loss of all the existing jobs that he plans on getting rid of.
Biden is a complete disaster.
Also, notice how Biden whithers under attack like he is being overloaded.
Totally agree. Biden was completely without substance.
A vote for Harris/Biden is a vote for concentration camps in America
Pretty much. For those of us that survive the pogroms.
https://twitter.com/prayingmedic/status/1311148465569718272
As much as I distrust Wallace I was still surprised by the overkill he provided against the President. Shouldn’t have been. These people are shoving every chip onto the table.
Chris Wallace is a disgrace. That so-called debate was outrageous.
Chris Wallace framed some questions , one about preconditions and health care, in a way to bring Trump down. As in, You signed this precondition order 5 days ago, in time for the debate..These moderators are scum.
Should rename this article “President Trump debates Chris Wallace and Joe Biden.”
“How many police organizations endorse you, Joe?” “Name one”
Biden responds with stupefied look on his face
“Say law and order, Joe”
Biden wont.
Those were haymakers in my book.
This was an in your face, gloves off, “discussion.” Biden thinks he’s some street fighter up against a pansy Republican. But, when Biden got hit in the mouth at the opening bell, he found out differently.
I look forward to more of the same in rounds two and three.
That is right. Name an endorsement from the police Joe. He doesn’t know the police aren’t for him.
Best moment for Trump,
“We caught them , we caught them all, we got it on tape. You gave the idea for the Logan Act against General Flynn. You better take a look at that because we caught you in a sense …..”
I wonder what he meant by having them on tape???
Infuriating, to hear Biden quote the corrupt Wray, twice. Once about mail in ballots and the other one about Antifa.
Can’t say it enough, Barr-zini hurt President Trump with his in action.
“Infuriating, to hear Biden quote the corrupt Wray, twice.” That pissed me off too. He’ll be gone soon enough.
I’ve wondered about that tape statement, too. I think Mifsud is the only one on tape reported so far. It was reported that Barr and Durham went to Italy to listen to it.
https://twitter.com/Alice46987351/status/1311225962835501057
The best moment was the last moment when an audience man yelled loudly, “We Love You, Trump!”
Trump was not well prepared for this 2 minute response with no rebuttal format.
Biden has not been asked a question that he did not know in advance or have a teleprompter for since the Primary.
Last night he was asked questions and made false statements which Trump did not have time to dispute.
If Biden was asked these same questions by the press over the last few months, the answers would be in dispute.
Trump is Monday Morning QBing now and will not let it happen again.
We wonder why Trump agreed to let Chris Wallace moderate. From what
I see his performance has been panned from almost all side. even a couple
fox people Kilmeade, Dobbs, mentioned Chris interuppting POTUS but not Joe.
Tonight Wallace SHOWED his clear bias to everyone watching.. He was the moderator
and it seems most people think this debate was a train wreck..That is on him.
One offs by posters who have never before been seen here, are suspect.
Trolls all over this thread. Sickening. Looks like damage control. Looks like Soros funded trolls trying to win the debate for Biden after the fact.
Not going to work. At the very least this debate showed Biden as the liar he is. Every word out of his mouth was a lie. He panders constantly. Positions change to whatever he thinks people want to hear without having any convictions whatsoever. Kneepads Harris is the perfect fit as his VP candidate. Neither believe in anything other than power.
Yes, the debate showed Biden to be the liar he is, Wallace the Democrat operative he is, and FOX the Democrat network it is! For over a year now I have referred to FOX as “FOX the FIXER Network” and believe that name to be even more appropriate after the railroading of our President last night!
I recommend that ALL Republicans stop watching FOX the FIXER Network except for the few shows/programs that have been fair to President Trump and Republicans. Would love to see their ratings decline!
You think Hollywood would have at least sent a makeup artist to help Joe out. He looked bad. And those eyes when he looked straight at the camera. Dilated and creepy. The President had good color and looked 20 years younger than Joe. He didn’t pander to the television audience and kept good eye contact with Wallace and Joe. Biden never looked once at the President, only pointed his finger and looked past him. Joe looked frail and afraid. For people who have a visible. memory like me and 80% of the population, there was no question that the. President won the Debate. Proof? Both undecideds at last night’s Raymond Arroyo’s focus group raised their hands when asked if President Trump won the debate. And they both claimed they were still. undecided. The best thing from last night was that people got to see Joe Biden for 98 minutes on live television and they didn’t like what they saw.
2016 all over again.
Pundits this morning are horrified, nauseated, in tears. “Worst debate ever”
2016 all over again.
America lost the debate last night.
I do believe Biden knew the questions. He couldn’t get out the answers fast enough.
There was not any substance to the Biden chatter, he was rattling on about nothing.
If I was to go thru all of Chris Wallace’s questions, most were aimed at anything the left wants Trump to answer to.
Bottom down?
Our nation is in a lockdown, forced on us by Democrats, over the WooHan bio-weapon attack.
We are a wounded nation.
There wasn’t a question really asked, that shows us a way out of this mess.
Because we already know what needs to happen.
24 Democrat Governors need to be fired, and half of the ‘chicken little’ Rep. Governors as well.right along with them.
We need to re-elect the man that can get the government off our backs.
Let’s get on with it.
Yes, I want to see the leftist rot, oozing out in the news every day,
It’s like the movie ‘The Blob’.
The things that I took from the debate knowing what we know about Chris Wallace and Biden. #1. Never interrupt your opponent when he is making a fool of himself. #2. Trump won the debate when he did not allow himself to be sucked in to the white supremacist trap that Wallace set for him. He told Wallace something along the lines of “It is a left -wing problem Chris”. #3. Biden was obviously lucid because he was juiced up on speed. Can he handle that again in any next debate?
#4. Trump has put up with sheer Hell for four years. He has probably very recently come to terms with the fact that Barr is not going to do anything about the coup plotters. He is frustrated and angry. It showed in the debate.
according to the NY Times – 9/29/20
The Commission on Presidential Debates has divided the 90-minute event, the first of three presidential debates in the coming weeks, into six 15-minute segments. Mr. Wallace has selected six broad topics: Mr. Trump’s and Mr. Biden’s political records, the Supreme Court, the coronavirus, the economy, race and violence in cities, and the integrity of the election.
Does anyone see the topic about Presidents’ taxes – Has anyone ever
requested to see Biden’s/son’s taxes – with all of China and Ukraine
money that has been documented?
The NY Times published an article just a few days before the debate – about the Prez taxes which had to be obtained illegally – and yet, the moderator went with that questionable information to ask, “I want to ask you a specific question – Is it true ……” Funny how he couldn’t trust Biden to ask him – just shows you how low Fox/Wallace can go – and – did you notice how every time the 2 debaters finally got to debate – the moderator stepped in to change the topic. He knew Biden had no answers –
Joe Wired last night?
Yup, thats a wire. backup mic? wheres the mic? Did Trump also have a similar backup mic? I bet someone could ask him. If not, that wire should not be there on Biden. “Its just lint” doesnt cut it.
Wallace and Biden, trying to tag-team the President, isn’t fair.
Next time they better have three moderators and a senile, doddering opponent.
President Trump left those two goons wide agape and glistening, wiped off on the curtains, and left.
Not even a goodbye kiss.
This man is the best-please help keep him safe.
If you were waiting for a solid, definitive kill shot from PDJT, that’s not his style. You were disappointed.
If you get that Trump took Chris Weasel off his planned game from MINUTE ONE and never let him regain control, then you watched the same debate I watched. On Wallace the weasel, Trump was a surgeon.
Biden was never really a challenge for the President. He was separated from the old school democrat base after minute two or three. Of course, he had zero chance to recover.
Trump 2020 and 2024. Maybe friggin’ longer. To hell with these basspoles.
So Joe has gone Muslim?
https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/09/29/joe-biden-says-inshallah-in-dig-at-trump-during-first-presidential-debate/
Around 1:32 in the video biden interrupts Trump with “IN’Shallah’ – God Wills.
WTH is going on with this doofus?
A lot of lefties do it. They think its cute.
Obung the Kenyan taught SLO Joe to say that if his mind goes blank
Trump 2020
Muslim are so gullible to fall for these. Obamao only brought death. PDJT brought peace to the middle east.
As far as content goes, Trump caused Biden some serious pain last night.
1) Proved Biden was a liar on numerous issues, especially and repeatedly on Hunter receiving $3.5 million from the Moscow mayor’s wife.
2) Forced Joe to lie about supporting the New Green Deal.
3) Forced Joe to refuse to answer stacking the SC.
4) Forced Joe to lie about Antifa.
Sure, I wish there’d been more opportunity for Biden to gaffe himself silly, but Trump clearly beat Biden and Wallace, lol.
The bit about the green new deal was awesome. Did you catch how he first said he wasn’t doing the green new deal and then later said he was all within about 30 seconds!
I’ve watched Presidential debates for a long time now. I have come to believe that it is not possible to get the MSM to tell the truth about them. They just refuse to do it, and it is one of the most egregious examples of their political bias. For them, the ‘Rat always wins, no matter how badly someone like me, who watched the debate, thinks the ‘Rat got his butt kicked.
I remember seeing W just beat the pants off of Gore; I mean, he just smashed Gore all night long on solid substance. When the newspapers came out the next day, I wondered if they had seen the same debate I had because we certainly had diametrically different opinions of what we had seen happen.
Consequently, I have come to the conclusion that it is a waste of time to watch these shows, and post-debate recaps aren’t worth much either. This is because there is simply no chance of getting a non-partisan, objective answer from the left. They handle this issue just as they do every other issue where reality displays them in a negative light, i.e,, they refuse to answer the question, insult the questioner, and do their best to change the subject. They are dishonest to the core, and that isn’t going to change. They just need to be beaten as badly as the honest people in this country can manage.
It’s entertainment. Never forget that. I still relive that moment when Trump said “you’d be in jail!”
Just had a flash of an idea: Debate #2 or #3, Trump lays out how Flynn was unfairly prosecuted then coerced into a plea deal because they threatened to go after his son. Then Trump says something like “I don’t know about you, but I think going after a man’s son is pretty low…. Hey Joe? What would you do if the DOJ offered you a deal like that?”
I get all giddy just imagining that happening!
Yeah, and Chris did not really try to nail him on it. Wallace is a true shame, he is no true conservative, he’s just like the left and never-Trumpers, pro establishment all the way. The president made valid points but he was too defensive. Biden was told to treat him like a bully and that’s what he did. The president needs to be more cold and shrewd with the ENTIRE media against him. No president has ever had to put up with that, ever.
The facts are that PDJT is the 800 pound guerilla. He owns the oxygen in this election cycle. He IS the news 24/7. HE should dictate the rules re these debates. I would tell the networks to pound sand…no ratings for you….insist on CSPAN, and neutral CSPAN Moderators. If Joe balks do the sit downs with CSPAN anyway. The debates on standard network TV are a sad joke. A twisted political Dancing with the Stars pile of cr#p.
I am not a debater, however, after the point and counterpoint doesn’t the person making the initial response get an opportunity to rebut or ask questions of the “counterpointer”? It seemed to me that when it became clear to Pres. Trump that he would not have this “classic” debate opportunity that he began to interrupt as his only defence against the outrageous and bald faced lies and obfuscation of Biden, the glazed one…..
Thank You. My thoughts exactly.
This was not a debate. All Joe Biden had to do was lie and laugh.