NATO General Secretary Mark Rutte and German Chancellor Frederich Merz hold a press conference as a meeting in Paris this weekend (13th) and Berlin on Monday (15th) are scheduled to finalize EU terms for a negotiated Ukraine-Russia ceasefire.
Within the remarks Merz notes a preliminary document outlining possible land concessions has recently been sent to the Trump administration, and that set of documents likely includes an outline for ‘security guarantees’ assembled by the coalition of the willing (Germany, France and UK). “It mainly concerns the question of what territorial concessions Ukraine is prepared to make,” Mr Merz said. He stressed that any decision on land concessions was up to the Ukrainian government and its people.
Chancellor Merz said, “If we continue as imagined, there will be talks with the US administration over the weekend and there might be a meeting at the beginning of next week in Berlin. Whether the US administration will take part in the meeting depends on the papers we are working on [at present].”
Speaking to an audience together with NATO Secretary Rutte, German Foreign Minister Johann Wadephul, emphasized the 28-point outline originally created by Trump, Rubio, Witkoff and Ukraine/Russia officials was dead. “As the 28-point plan was mentioned, it is no longer existing,” Wadephul said. “We had some influence on it” he remarked, seemingly bragging about how Europe destroyed the U.S plan.
Another report on Thursday said Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni urged Volodymyr Zelensky to accept “painful concessions” for a peace deal. According to the Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera, tensions surfaced between the two leaders as Ms Meloni pressed Mr Zelensky to accede to US demands. “There is sufficient evidence indicating that not everything went smoothly and that some differences were clearly expressed for the first time by both parties,” the newspaper stated.
Meanwhile back in Washington, DC, President Trump delivered remarks on the Ukraine-EU negotiations yesterday, noting his discussions with the European team and the potential for Trump’s emissaries to attend either the Paris or Berlin meeting if something productive can be gained from it.
According to The Telegraph, […] “In Europe, the focus will shift over the weekend to Paris, where the details of the latest peace proposal are expected to be ironed out.
Ukraine is also keen to prevent talks over territorial concessions from happening without parallel discussions on the shape of the security guarantees the US could offer to deter a future Russian invasion.
Officials close to the negotiations have described “incredible pressure” by Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner to agree to a unilateral withdrawal from the Donbas before any other agreements are struck.
On Thursday, Russia said it had made fresh gains on the front line in Ukraine, where Putin is taking territory slowly and at a heavy cost to his troops.” {source}
Volodymyr Zelenskyy: “Today, we have had a constructive and in-depth discussion with the American team on one of the three documents we are currently working on – the one on security guarantees. The U.S. was represented by Secretary Marco Rubio, Secretary Pete Hegseth, Steve Witkoff, Jared Kushner, Generals Keane and Grynkewich, and Josh Gruenbaum. My thanks also to Sec Gen NATO Mark Rutte of NATO. We greatly value the active engagement of the American side at all levels – not only in working to end the war, but also in ensuring Ukraine’s security and preventing a new Russian invasion. This reflects the seriousness of America’s intentions and its clear focus on achieving outcomes.”
“Security guarantees are among the most critical elements for all subsequent steps. We have already got the negative experience of the Budapest Memorandum. Everyone remembers this, as well as the occasions when Russia repeatedly violated all its other commitments. That is why it is essential that this document on security guarantees provides concrete answers to what concerns Ukrainians the most: what actions partners will take if Russia decides to launch its aggression again. It was agreed that the teams will work actively to ensure that, in the near future, there will be a clear understanding of the security guarantees. I thank everyone who is helping!” {SOURCE}
Volodymyr Zelenskyy – “We held a meeting of the Coalition of the Willing, and this is an important format for supporting Ukraine’s security now and in the future. We are working to ensure that the security guarantees include serious components of European deterrence and are reliable, and it is important that the United States is with us and supports these efforts. No one is interested in a third Russian invasion. And right now, defense support for Ukraine is especially important, because Russia’s attacks are not stopping, and there must be greater protection of life for diplomacy to work toward a just peace. Thank you to everyone who is helping.” {Source}
Ukraine Democracy: 80 diplomat engagements, 30 foreign leader visits, 712 visits by influencers, 5,000 scheduled NATO/EU meetings, briefings and calls, 526 foreign trips, 7,295,000 memos and statements of interest, 280,000 hours of discussion and negotiation, 535 stakeholder briefings, $1,000,000,000 stolen or laundered to international agencies, politicians and Ukraine officials. Four years. Zero elections!
This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.
My rifle, without me, is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless.
I must fire my rifle true.
I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me.
I must shoot him before he shoots me.
VIA POLITICO – NATO Chief Mark Rutte urged member countries to do more to prepare for the possibility of large-scale war, warning that Russia may be ready to attack the alliance within five years.
“We are Russia’s next target. And we are already in harm’s way,” Rutte said on Thursday during a speech in Berlin. “Russia has brought war back to Europe, and we must be prepared for the scale of war our grandparents and great grandparents endured.”
Although he welcomed the decision by NATO members to increase overall military spending to 5 percent of gross domestic product annually by 2035, Rutte argued more needed to be done, saying alliance members must shift to a “wartime mindset.”
“This is not the time for self-congratulation,” Rutte said. “I fear that too many are quietly complacent. Too many don’t feel the urgency. And too many believe that time is on our side. It is not. The time for action is now.” {READ MORE}
European leader have lost their minds.
Buster, you are right
They are leaders of the hedge funds, investment firms and financial families that put them there, they couldn’t care less for the average EU citizens or the well being and surviving of Western Europe.
Correct me if my history is hazy, but wasn’t NATO created to stop an INVASION of WESTERN EUROPE to SPREAD COMMUNISM?
Ukraine is NOT part of Western Europe and Russia is NO-LONGER Communist. Time to leave NATO and save a ton of AMERICAN TAX PAYER MONEY IN THE PROCESS!
That is the “official reason” for creating NATO
The real reason for creating NATO was to keep the military industrial complex on both sides of the Atlantic employed , powerful and well fed
The US could simply not let go of the “war time economy” of the 1940s.. it “cured” the Depression and unleashed the American labour force… A fact that was used and abused by your Deep State for the better part of the last 80 years and counting
Please do believe any official statement or reasoning theory by ANY Government on any public policy… As we all know the news media itself is irredeemably corrupt and nothing more than a parrot for the powerful interests who actually rule this world
Eisenhower Farewell Address – Military Industrial Complex
The “Official Reason” for Creating NATO is ENOUGH to NOW LEAVE NATO. Everything else clouds that it’s “OFFICIAL” Mission is DONE and with it time to pull the plug.
We need to be out of NATO immediately. Trump should takes steps to ignore whatever law little Marco co-sponsored and get us out of NATO before fools like Rutte start WW3.
NATO was a construct of the Marshall plan, that’s over now. So should be NATO
If they really gave 2 Shats about their own country and people. They’d just leave the EU, but those leaders are all hitlers children.
They want to see tbt world burn. They’d just should all be rounded up as terrorists, cause that’s what they are
The US must leave NATO to its own devices .. the alliance has worn out it welcome and our involvement is no longer needed, financially or militarily..
Disband NATO. Today.
And remove every single American solder from Europe and leave not so much as single round behind.
Exit NATO.
US out of the UN.
UN out of the US.
It’s time to stop the patty cake and trying to help and appease those who routinely stab the USA in the back while we foot the bills.
Amen.
It’s long past time that we blow this popsicle stand!
“I’m not a smart man Jenny but I know what love is.”
People in government are the stupidest of stupid. Myself would never venture into abuse or degradation of government for any amount of money or fame and that my friends is exactly the problem.
If you are moral to any extent you realize government is a place for imbeciles, at best. Money is only dolled out to crooks and most Americans are not crooks. Those that are dominant government.
Let me be clear, we cannot attend to our future with this filth, evil, slop, we are either going to retaliate in a spiritual way or be dominated y evil.
Repeat, either our nation incorporates God and all that implies or we are going to fall to Satan.
Tim Burchett is my representative and I see him as a decent person.
However, the government overall is staffed by people who wish to extract personal wealth by means of government. The bloody Protestant Reformation became necessary long ago when it became obvious that religion had become an all too obvious disguise for greedy poseurs.
Our government is like that now. They pose as public servants while fleecing the public shamelessly
Tired of this stupid game. Cut them off. Once the gift window closes the conflict will end.
The meeting of the USA, Ukraine, and Europe in Paris has been canceled, the reasons are unknown, — RMF
▪️The planned meeting of the “European trio” and Ukrainian officials in Paris on December 13 will not take place for an unspecified reason, reports the Polish radio station, citing a source in the Elysee Palace.
▪️Earlier, the office of the Finnish president announced that A. Stubb had canceled his upcoming trip to the USA. Instead, he plans to attend a meeting with European leaders. Reuters reported that the heads of several European countries and Zelensky will gather in Berlin on December 15 to discuss the settlement of the conflict in Ukraine.
▪️Axios reported that the heads of France, Germany, Britain, the USA, and Ukraine will gather in Paris to discuss a peace plan. They planned to discuss “new ideas” for resolving territorial disputes and security guarantees.
At the same time, Trump stated that US officials would only participate in the negotiations if they saw the need for it.
❗️The cancellation of the meeting may be an indirect indication that Washington has rejected the amendments to the peace plan proposed by the EU and Kiev and sees no point in discussing them, believe Kiev media outlets.
Ukraine and EU struggle to come up with realistic proposals, they often forget that it requires it to be a deal that Russia would accept.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/150370
The weak compromised European leaders are 100% owned by the globalist oligarchs. They want WWIII because they know that the entire western world is at a boiling point because their lies, fraud, theft and endless criminal invasion. They cant replace or kill us fast enough. But nothing depopulates like WWIII.
No more genocidal European Wars!!!
One thing that alarms me is that Ukraine has started to blow up Russia’s oil tankers (called the shadow fleet). I think they’ve gotten three of them so far.
Typically, when the Ukrainians, say, drone a target like and oil storage facility inside Russia, Russia will respond by blowing up something similar in Ukraine.
But, what we have here in this war is an asymmetry of logistics. One combatant has resources and an industrial base, consequently it produces its own weapons. The other is welfare state that gets everything from the outside, from Western countries.
So, when Ukraine kills a Russian oil tanker, how are the Russians supposed to realistically respond in kind?… by blowing up a US tanker? Surely not. Their hands are tied.
This is a provocation that the Russian don’t have an equal ability to counter without starting a chain reaction. It is an escalation. It’s intention is to suck the West in.
Lets just hope cool heads prevail. We need to extract ourselves financially, politically, logistically from this thing, like, yesterday. We need to get out before the Euros do something really stupid.
I hope Frau Oberfuhrer Ursula isn’t counting on any support from the US.
But I can see the usual suspects here licking their lips in anticipation.
These EU leaders are murderers. Why does anyone respect them
Perhaps it’s not respect.
I’m struggling to understand this. Is the message that NATO has sunk to Ukraine’s weakness, or that our failure with a vassal guarantees more failures ahead?
Are we meant to accept Ukraine’s broken security as Europe’s future?
Everything fell apart when the West, cold and calculated, removed a democratic president and reopened the old invasion corridor to Russia with cookies on the Maidan.
Beat it, you Blood Money Leech.
It’s like Z is thanking the people at the Oscars ceremonies for their various contributions. This has become a debacle of gigantic proportions and has to stop, not tomorrow or the next day but now today. If Z wants to continue fighting, someone give him a rifle (I doubt he knows how to use it but never mind) turn him towards the fight and give him a push. He will not budge so they will have to forcibly push him into the fight. And somebody please tell him this is the last hurrah – no more cozy teas and crumpets in foreign countries. Just shooting and killing with him at the front waving his men on to victory. Sorry, got carried away there for a minute. What should really happen is that he should be executed for starting a war he cannot win and causing the deaths of so many people. Maybe I should go there and force him into doing this but I don’t have a rifle. And I really don’t have the time for this. And I am so sick of hearing about him and his jaunts to foreign countries with his little tin cup, I can’t take it anymore.
Eurogrifters are their own worst enemy.
It’s time to leave NATO … and that clock stopped running >30 years ago. Or perhaps the clock ran out in ’93 when the EU was officially established … ???
NATO has long since outlived it’s “defensive” purpose and has now become a globalist “offensive” military/industrial organization. Without the USA to buttress it, it is DOA and beyond room temperature … mort.
Has the USA not HAD ENOUGH of Europe’s wars over the past century … ???
Rutte and company clearly want a world war on the scale of our “ grandfathers”. His words.
President Trump please pull out now.
I thought NATO was supposed to be prepared for war with Russia for the last 75 years.
https://www.gbnews.com/news/retired-army-officer-issues-stark-russia-warning
Germany and now Britain warning of war with Russia and need to prepare.
It looks like Europe plans to bring the US into war with Russia thru NATO. Evidently Trump was wrong that people want peace. His desire to end the killing is not shared by the European masterminds.
After seeing how things went for the ukranians, does the EU really think that pushing for war with Russia is a smart move?
If they are not the ones doing the fighting, yes they do.
I always wish President Trump the best. However, coming from a Ukrainian family and marrying into a Polish family, I have to say – good luck in dealing with Slavs. He has no idea how hardheaded they can be. I wish him well.
The creed, if folk today were as we were as a nation before. We as a people have failed those who we should have taught differently. Children today, even many so called adults are spoiled, immature, hold no principles. I pray that this reverses, that integrity makes a return. Thank you for printing the creed, we need to live it again.
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Walk away, let the bankrupt UK/EUropean idiots get on with it, the UK/EU tail cannot be allowed to wag the US dog.
War over a non-NATO member Ukraine? The EU can go it alone without the US.. Solely their blood and treasure on the line.
At the end of WW2 the germans got less than what they started with, 75 years later the Nazi crowd have so convinced public discourse through PC to believe in a 180 degree acceptance, lol.
Very un-serious men.
Hey, Mark, you go on ahead; we’ll catch up later (maybe). Let’s see how that works out for you.
“NATO Chief Mark Rutte urged member countries to do more to prepare for the possibility of large-scale war, warning that Russia may be ready to attack the alliance within five years.” Every time I read something like that, I am reminded of H.L. Mencken’s observation: “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”
Plus, remember these are the people who told you there’d be no snow within five years.
heheh Yeah I forgot about that. As I’m sitting here watching our 3 to 5″ come down … 🙂
The UK, France, Germany and Canada are not going to increase defence spending. Mass immigration and Net Zero lunacy have brought them to the brink of bankruptcy and they have no intention of deviating from civilisational and economic suicide. Germany recently started hinting about conscription while 500K+ fighting age Ukrainian males have fled their own country to avoid serving. The skinny jeans, man-bun betamale krauts swarmed the streets in near riots.
We need to get out of NATO like yesterday. Let the Eurotrash figure out by themselves.
Sink the ghost fleet- no money means an end to war.
Poland and Finland are ready for a land war with Russia. Britain and Sweden can close the Baltic. Turkey can close the black sea. French and Italian navies are capable of assisting. France has a modern army of 200k but is set up for only a division size (30k) expeditionary force. Britain and France have nukes. NATO has airland battle C2. Germany, Spain, Belgium “stand with” European forces that have actual capabilities. Turkey has a military with significant manpower- what they would do is anyone’s guess.
Russia cannot withstand even the relatively weak conventional forces Europe can muster. Russia will never reach its’ geographic objectives. Far likelier to lose Kaliningrad and Belarus. The first Russian casualty of a nuclear exchange would be Putin and 10K of his neighbors and colleagues.
US does not even need to get involved for Russia to lose.
Agree Rutte is a jackass. Von der Leyen should be hanged in front of the EU HQ. Recall she is the reason there is no German military to speak of.
Germany has historically been a major destabilizing force in the West; it’s the cradle of bad ideas.
The UK, however, is the largest de facto offender due to its influence on the United States, Europe, and its colonial actions in the Middle East, which played a significant role in shaping the political borders and conflicts that persist today.
Both countries are captured by globalism and far-left ideologies.